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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yeddy.

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Speaker 3: To the extent that the White House said that Ukraine

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Speaker 3: started the war, I disagree. I think Vladim repute started

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Speaker 3: the war. I also believe, through bitter experience, that Vladim

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Speaker 3: Reputin is a gangster. He's a gangster with a black hawk.

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Speaker 3: He makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Mother Krusha.

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Speaker 4: He has Stalin's taste for blood. And as I've said

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Speaker 4: in another context, I wouldn't I trust this guy like

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Speaker 4: I trust gas Station's sousal.

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Speaker 1: Just he's kind of making a good, serious point.

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Speaker 2: He's got to Oh that's right.

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Speaker 1: My braind is throwing in a clever little shay, and

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Speaker 1: so let me just undermine my perfectly reasonable point of

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Speaker 1: view by making some idiotic, effing metaphor.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. That cabride was.

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Speaker 1: Longer than the ball constrictors and swallowed a wire and

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Speaker 1: plugged its wine into a two twenty outletder.

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Speaker 2: Now just say it was song. Just say it was

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Speaker 2: a hog ride. No stupid metaphors. God, when's he up

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Speaker 2: for reelection? I was running against him? Was donating? Was

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Speaker 2: I right? Michael? I told you, I told Hanson and

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Speaker 2: Michael I said, we're gonna come back with this clip.

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Speaker 2: It'll wind up Joe and then we'll just let him

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Speaker 2: go for a while and then we'll move on by

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Speaker 2: this stuff. I'm done, yes, Katie. So while Joe catches

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Speaker 2: his breath as a man who trusts gas station sushi, Jack,

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Speaker 2: what did you think about this? That was a little hurtful?

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Speaker 2: There he is on TV again. You know why he

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Speaker 2: does that? Because he gets on TV. The reason he's

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Speaker 2: on I'm looking at CBS. The reason they have him

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Speaker 2: on there right now is because he's making his mother sushi,

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Speaker 2: gas station Teresa whatever clip.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if behind the scenes he's just a completely

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Speaker 1: serious man.

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Speaker 2: I wonder too, maybe maybe. So there's that we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk a little more about Ukraine and Putin and

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Speaker 2: all that coming up. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: your high ranking Republicans are trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: do we deal with this because a number of them

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Speaker 2: don't agree at all. You know who disagrees with Thrump's

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Speaker 2: been saying the most Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't uttered a word about it. But I've been listening

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Speaker 2: to him for the last three years on all the

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Speaker 2: Sunday shows. I know what he thinks of this. He

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Speaker 2: thinks it's one hundred percent in the United States interest

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Speaker 2: to show Putin, Russia and the rest of the world

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Speaker 2: you can't get away with this, and that Putin's an

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Speaker 2: evil gangster and that, and obviously he doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: Ukraine caused the war or Zelensky's in it for the money.

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Speaker 2: So how long he keeps his mouth shut about this,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's gonna be interesting to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, my great worry, or it's not even

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Speaker 1: a worry. It's a certainty that the great things Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing will soon be derailed by the nutty things

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Speaker 1: he's doing and saying.

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Speaker 2: And it's a damn shame. Yeah. If there's some clever,

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Speaker 2: three dimensional chess thing going on here that's going to

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Speaker 2: turn out good for America, maybe that, you know. I

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Speaker 2: don't see what it is, but maybe it's there.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, I've been in businesses, I've been

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Speaker 1: in relationships, I've been in rock and roll bands, I've

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Speaker 1: been in sports teams that felt like they were heading

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Speaker 2: Now it's get too bad. Good stuff done as we can. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's too bad because all of the you know, we

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Speaker 2: were reading from Rich Lowry's piece in The Natural Review

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Speaker 2: last week that it was the best three weeks for

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Speaker 2: conservatives in the culture war in a half a century. Yep,

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Speaker 2: the first the first three weeks of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: And that continues. And the dog stuff. I love the

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Speaker 2: focus on cutting government and blah blah blah, all this

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Speaker 2: energy policy, the border, it's all sat god. The immigration stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: no kidding. By the way, Seapack is going on and

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Speaker 2: jd Vance is about to speak. Is Seapack in league

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Speaker 2: with the Westminster Dog Show? And something that used to

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Speaker 2: happen once a year is now.

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Speaker 1: Every three weeks it seems like it. Or is that

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Speaker 1: just because I'm old? It's like dancing with the stars. Now,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's just the way that is. From the

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Speaker 1: stupid file, I was looking up at the television and

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Speaker 1: they're making a very big deal out of it, with

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Speaker 1: oscars coming up here soon. Gender parody reached across the

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Speaker 1: top one hundred grossing films of twenty twenty four. It's

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Speaker 1: the first time in movie history gender parody and they're

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Speaker 2: The hell are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 2: We got the same number of lead roles for women

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Speaker 2: as for men for the first time ever, apparently protagonists

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Speaker 2: and in various films. Okay, great, buck hey, great on

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Speaker 2: the forcing certain genders into art seems odd, but whatever,

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Speaker 2: it's to make money and which is leading me to this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Tom Cotton on for a podcast soon.

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Speaker 2: He's got a new book out. He's a senator hawk,

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Speaker 2: especially a hawk on China with his new book Seven

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Speaker 2: Things You Can't Say About China. And I've listened to

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Speaker 2: several interviews with him already, and one of them that

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Speaker 2: he brings up is Hollywood and the way they rolled

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Speaker 2: over for China, and he uses a whole bunch of examples,

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Speaker 2: but he said, have you ever seen anybody Chinese is

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Speaker 2: the bad guy in a movie? There are number one

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Speaker 2: full you do any polling of Americans, Our number one

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Speaker 2: enemy in the world is China by far, and Americans

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Speaker 2: get that and know that when when Joe and I

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Speaker 2: were young a long time ago, when we were in

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Speaker 2: a Cold War with the Soviet Union, the Russians were

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Speaker 2: the bad guy. Like every movie you ever watched, unless

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Speaker 2: it was a Western, I mean, anything with a modern setting,

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Speaker 2: the Russian was a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: Occasionally they would tag in an East German just to

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Speaker 1: give themselves a brass or two, and then they would

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Speaker 1: jump back into their evil doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's especially egregious because the country is lousy

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Speaker 1: right now with Chinese intelligence agents and spies.

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Speaker 2: That's why we need to have Tom cotton on amazing

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Speaker 2: him talking about how they've taken over our colleges, sending

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Speaker 2: all these Chinese students over who pay full freight, and

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Speaker 2: the colleges love people that pay the full tuition and

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Speaker 2: everything like that, which keeps, by the way, the prices

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Speaker 2: up in your kid from being able to get in.

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Speaker 2: But then they get educated at our universities and the

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Speaker 2: top tech and all that sort of stuff, while sometimes

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Speaker 2: you know, hanging around as teachers and being spies and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: But the Hollywood thing, it hadn't occurred to me. Never

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Speaker 2: is there a bad guy that's from China in any movie,

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Speaker 2: which is ridiculous given the current state.

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Speaker 5: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: Right well, but for the obvious reasons, I'm skipping ahead.

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Speaker 2: Assuming you're brilliant enough to already know this, the biggest

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Speaker 2: movie market on planet Earth is China. And if you

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Speaker 2: make a movie and you want to make a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, it ain't gonna get shown in China. If

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Speaker 2: you have somebody Chinese is a bad guy. As a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, it goes way back to when Brad

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Speaker 2: Pitt was in the movie Seven Years in Tibet, which

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Speaker 2: China hated. They banned whichever studio is Paramount or whoever

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Speaker 2: they banned whichever studio made that movie. For years and

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Speaker 2: years and years, they couldn't even get a film of

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Speaker 2: any kind in China, sending the message you get on

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Speaker 2: the wrong side of us, We're not just not gonna

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Speaker 2: show this movie, we won't show any of your movies.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna punish you. Yeah, and you just can't afford

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Speaker 2: to do it. And it worked. And Tom Cotton makes

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Speaker 2: the argument that that's what happens with a lot of

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Speaker 2: our news, all of the big news networks are paired

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Speaker 2: with a big movie company and he listed them off.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they are, but ABC and Disney

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Speaker 1: That ABCS is joined us something on wholly judging by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they all are. And he said, that's why

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Speaker 2: you don't see as critical coverage of China as you might.

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Speaker 2: Fox has more critical coverage of China, but they're not

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Speaker 2: tied in with any movie making company where they have

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Speaker 2: to worry about it. But they would be punished. ABC

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Speaker 2: would be punished if they go too far on being

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Speaker 2: anti China. Disney would get punished, and China would't allow

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Speaker 2: if you remember the movie Red Dawn, which I think

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Speaker 2: years ago, and they were going to use China. They

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Speaker 2: pushedback said there's no way this is going to air

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Speaker 2: in China, and they changed the bad guys to North Koreans.

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Speaker 2: Like North Korea is going to invade the United States.

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Speaker 2: The logistics would be daunting. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So another great example of this well of how perverse

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Speaker 1: Hollywood's become. It's gotten so woke. I mean, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of an old topic. I don't need to re establish it,

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Speaker 1: but I was so disgusted. Judy and I we watched

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Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel intelligence agents in Britain trying to

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Speaker 2: I want that put to music, and I want school

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Speaker 8: What do you think is going to happen to your business?

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Speaker 2: Sanity can take you seriously if they can see your shins.

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Speaker 8: You know who complained the loudest, and the quickest, and

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Speaker 9: was thinking this earlier. The four words everyone should know

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Speaker 9: about government is somebody gets the money. Right, everything that's

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Speaker 9: spent is received.

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Speaker 2: And that's not to say.

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Speaker 1: That all government spending therefore is some sort of theft

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Speaker 1: or graft or whatever, and O they're legitimate, you know, expenditures. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Just always remember that somebody is getting the money, and

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Speaker 1: that gives you the very very very basic framework for

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Speaker 1: thinking about who is getting the money and is it

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Speaker 1: a legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Transfer of taxpayer funds.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Ah, I absolutely love this, and we've got some good, positive,

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Speaker 1: funny stuff about Doge again in a moment or two.

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Speaker 1: But Brett Fair talked to Doug Bergham, who's the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of the Interior last night and it was good to interview,

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Speaker 1: very solid and interesting. But Bergham's final screed, it's sixty

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Speaker 1: two and sixty three, Michael I's that was absolutely terrific.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear the first part.

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Speaker 10: There's an opportunity here with the federal government to right

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Speaker 10: size it and in the process. Part of it is

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Speaker 10: the federal government is so outdated on the technology. As

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Speaker 10: you know, Brett, I spent thirty years in technology businesses

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Speaker 10: before I got into the public service side of my life.

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Speaker 5: And we're decades and decades behind.

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Speaker 10: And we've got still got people that are absolutely pushing paper.

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Speaker 10: We've got people that are taking faxes off fax machines

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Speaker 10: and then doing the data entry.

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Speaker 5: There's just basic things we can do.

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Speaker 10: We can create more meaningful, more purposeful jobs for people

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Speaker 10: that want to have a life of service, and we

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Speaker 10: can deliver lower cost, more efficient government for the citizens.

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Speaker 10: And we can do both, and we have to do

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Speaker 10: both of those together.

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Speaker 2: And here's the business end of what he said.

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Speaker 10: If you're a CEO in technology where there are no

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Speaker 10: protections that every day you've got to build a product

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Speaker 10: that's better, faster, cheaper tomorrow than it is today, and

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Speaker 10: a new technology from a new competitor can put you

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Speaker 10: out of business. You're always evolving and changing, and those

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Speaker 10: competitive pressures haven't existed for government.

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Speaker 5: Government often is a monopoly.

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Speaker 10: But we need to bring some of those pressures, like

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Speaker 10: things through DOGE that actually start driving the efficiencies and

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Speaker 10: driving the innovation. And I would invite everybody listening Interior.

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Speaker 10: We've got there's a site on x send us your

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Speaker 10: ideas about how we can do a better job serving.

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Speaker 10: I know people are frustrated waiting in line to pay

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Speaker 10: to get into a national park and we're paying an

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Speaker 10: employee to collect dollars when they.

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Speaker 5: Come in the door. And that should all be on

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Speaker 5: an app and people.

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Speaker 10: Should have a reservation and roll right in make it,

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Speaker 10: you know, lower costs for the government, better service for

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Speaker 10: the citizens. There's a thousand ideas out like that, and

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Speaker 10: we're ready to get going on them.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is so obviously true. I've I did

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Speaker 2: that last year when I did that long driving trip

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Speaker 2: with my kids, waiting in these long single file car

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Speaker 2: lines to get to see if you got any cash

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Speaker 2: in your pocket to buy ticket to get in, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to just going on an app and everybody rolls through.

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Speaker 1: And it is common sensical, as some of the particulars

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Speaker 1: were there. I just liked the spirit of saying out loud,

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Speaker 1: which is that which has been so obvious to all

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Speaker 1: of us for so long. Government is a monopoly with

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Speaker 1: no pressure to improve its performances. To the great Tim

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Speaker 1: Sander Firs pointed out many times on this very show. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: it's the opposite. If you can go and say yeah,

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Speaker 1: or the Department of solving a problem, and we couldn't

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Speaker 1: solve the problem. We need more money, we need more people,

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Speaker 1: you'll generally get it right.

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Speaker 2: And well there's the other problem. Somebody brought this up

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Speaker 2: on Fox yesterday. And I've known some people who dealt

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Speaker 2: with us, the friends of mine who abused this because

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Speaker 2: it's just human nature, who were in government and would

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year find ways to spend

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Speaker 2: all the money in their budget because if you didn't

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Speaker 2: spend it, your budget would be cut, right, so you

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Speaker 2: spend it on just dumb crap. I mean, god, there's

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Speaker 2: exam I'm not going to get so many of them

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Speaker 2: friends within trouble, but stuff that they bought just ridiculous

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Speaker 2: just to shove the money out the door. So your

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Speaker 2: budget stays the same.

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Speaker 1: Can you change it like a notch er two, so

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Speaker 1: we can get an idea of how ridiculous you're talking.

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Speaker 2: About, Like electronics you don't need, for instance, yeah, laptops

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Speaker 2: for people exactly?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair enough, just something anything to keep your budget.

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Speaker 2: What a terrible system. So I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: get around that either. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you do about that.

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Speaker 1: But Wall Street Journal with a great piece today DOGE

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Speaker 1: is searching for wasteful spending. It isn't hard to find.

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Speaker 1: It's one of Washington's most persistent and challenging problems. The

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Speaker 1: federal government misspends at least one hundred billion dollars each

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Speaker 1: year out of its multi trillion dollar budget. Identifying the

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Speaker 1: wasteful outline outlays isn't the hardest part. It's actually doing

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Speaker 1: something about it. But they go into for instance, in

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Speaker 1: the most recent fiscal year, the agencies that reported their

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Speaker 1: improper payments and at least we have a system for

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Speaker 1: doing that, identified one hundred and one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: nine billion dollars in such outlays, or almost four percent

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Speaker 1: of all payments were improper. The reports cover a large

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Speaker 1: chunk of total government spending, which the CBO put at

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Speaker 1: six point seventy five trillion dollars last fiscal year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: more than ninety percent of the improper payments were over payments.

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Speaker 1: We just we don't have stringent enough guidelines and systems,

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Speaker 1: as Doug Berghen was hinting at. I mean, we were

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Speaker 1: running the computer technology of the seventies in some cases

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Speaker 1: are eighties at best.

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Speaker 2: Who are in that mine with the Manila envelopes and

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Speaker 2: everything like that the technology of the eighteen hundreds, maybe

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: So we just bitterly, bitterly need all sorts of updates

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Speaker 1: and competitive pressures on government and privatization of certain functions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would be imperfect in some ways, but

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Speaker 1: there's a phenomenon. I guess again, I keep looking for

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Speaker 1: the perfect description of it. It's probably letting perfect be

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Speaker 1: the enemy of good or good enough. But there's this deal,

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Speaker 1: like getting rid of the penny. It gives you ninety

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Speaker 1: pounds of good and then ten pounds or so of

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, we're gonna have to work something out because

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Speaker 1: it does cause a bit of an issue in this

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Speaker 1: and that ten percent, that little bit of you know,

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Speaker 1: upsetting the current deal freaks people out, and they turned

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Speaker 1: down the ninety pounds of good. Happens over and over again.

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Speaker 1: The tax well, the tax go is a little more

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Speaker 1: complicated because so many people benefit from it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that ohid better? Not when it comes to government policy,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Let's write.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's that we're old enough to have seen all

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Speaker 1: sorts of policies come and go, and departments ry and

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Speaker 1: then not do crap with their budgets and the rest

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: No, let's try it. If it f things up, pardon me.

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Speaker 2: For the next seven or eight years.

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Speaker 1: We'll all be seven or eight years older who cares

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Speaker 1: and will have learned something. Need to be bolder speaking,

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Speaker 1: which I love this one more note, go ahead, you have.

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Speaker 2: Something to say on it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Trump weighs direct payments to Americans from DOGE savings. He's

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Speaker 1: considering carving off twenty percent of the savings from the

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Speaker 1: cost cutting efforts and just writing checks to Americans. This

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Speaker 1: is the most brilliant political idea ever. The more they find,

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Speaker 1: the more they cut, the bigger check you get, and

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Speaker 1: the more people love DOGE.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean to the point that it might go crazy

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Speaker 1: and we might start selling off aircraft carriers or Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. So we gotta be you know, tap

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Speaker 2: the brakes now and again.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's a perpetual motion machine of

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Speaker 1: popular support for reigning in government spending. It is the

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Speaker 1: most brilliant thing I have ever heard. If he cannot

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Speaker 1: screw it up with the stuff he does, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: We've got some Bonnie Blue news, you know, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. Also, why the world life is

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Speaker 2: left less colorful than it used to be or I

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Speaker 2: don't know about but why, but it is, life is

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Speaker 2: much less colorful than it used to be just a

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Speaker 2: few years ago. And once I pointed out, it'll become

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Speaker 2: very clear to you. Among other things, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to stay with us farm Strawy.

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Speaker 11: A Georgia woman is suing her fertility clinic after a heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: IVF mix up.

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Speaker 11: Christina Murray was implanted with the wrong embryo, only to

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Speaker 11: later give up the five month old baby boys she

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Speaker 11: desperately loved. Christina, a former nurse, says she knew something

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Speaker 11: was off the minutes she saw her newborn. She and

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Speaker 11: her sperm downer were white, but her baby was African American.

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Speaker 11: Christina says the clinic found the biological parents, who are

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Speaker 11: also clients. They suit her for custody, and Christina gave

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Speaker 11: up the only son she'd ever known.

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Speaker 2: In a statement, Coastal.

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Speaker 11: Fertility specialist says this was an isolated event with no

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Speaker 11: further patients affected, adding the clinic deeply regrets the distress

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Speaker 11: caused by an unprecedented error that resulted in an embryo

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Speaker 11: transfer mix up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw the interview with this woman. What a

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Speaker 2: rough situation. Oh, heartbreaking. So you know, she goes through

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Speaker 2: that whole process, she's going to have a baby, she

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Speaker 2: has a baby, kid's black, she's white, So she immediately thinks, ah,

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Speaker 2: something might be up here. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: they've been looking forward to having a baby, and she

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Speaker 2: has a baby for five months. It goes through the

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Speaker 2: whole thing while people are checking in it as and

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Speaker 2: everything like that, and you know, you just all the

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Speaker 2: hormones and chemicals and emotions that go with having a baby,

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Speaker 2: you know, take effect. And then somebody comes from and says, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the whole kids black thing. Yet it's not who you

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Speaker 2: thought it was or belong to someone else, cremit a mistake. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what a terrible story. Yeah, I would give them a

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Speaker 2: bad Ye'll review that company, Oh one star.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the good news was I got a kid. She

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Speaker 1: reminds me, I've got to get to the whole the

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Speaker 1: left claiming Trump's against IVF, he's against control. That narrative.

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Speaker 1: We've got some audio of that. And then he just

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Speaker 1: signed something completely the countrary. People lie routinely. If you

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Speaker 1: haven't figured that out, it's true.

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Speaker 2: And I think Katie brought us this story. I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: I now know the name of Bonnie Blue. She's the

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Speaker 2: weirdo who it says here in the New York Post

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Speaker 2: slept with, she had sex with, She didn't sleep with them.

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Speaker 2: That implies more intimacy and romance than existed. She had

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Speaker 2: sex with me, had coitus, she had genital rubbing with

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Speaker 2: a thousand dudes in one day, and now she claims

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Speaker 2: she's pregnant. Well that's a great story, isn't it. She

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Speaker 2: has a kid, and then that kid gets to grow

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Speaker 2: up knowing AM one of those one thousand guys that

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Speaker 2: had sex with my mom and one day is my dad.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is so de humanized. It really is

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Speaker 2: just sickening. Came across this culture Critic is one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite Twitter follows. Always comes up with these really

650
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Speaker 2: interesting things, but has one to day out about how

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Speaker 2: we are getting less colorful every aspect of life is

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Speaker 2: being stripped of color. Many have noticed this trend, but

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Speaker 2: why is it happening? And he uses a bunch of examples,

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Speaker 2: charts of, for instance, pixels in photographs over the last

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Speaker 2: actually two hundred years. But we're getting more black and white,

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Speaker 2: and more blue and gray and olive green and less

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Speaker 2: like bright colors. Cars. Drastic change in cars to where

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Speaker 2: we just got way, way, way more cars that are black,

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Speaker 2: white or gray than blue, yellow, red, bright colors, and

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Speaker 2: by quite a bit. And then pointing out movies which

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Speaker 2: I had noticed, how a lot of your big motion

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Speaker 2: everything like that, they're barely in color at all. They're

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Speaker 2: practically blacke and white. They're just kind of muted colors

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Speaker 2: and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really washed out muted, right, Yeah, I happen to

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Speaker 1: see that. And they showed the picture of what's his

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Speaker 2: The screen and all the color was washed out, which

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Speaker 2: is weird. Yeah, And it's just something that we're doing

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Speaker 2: for some reason, deciding to be less colorful. You know,

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Speaker 2: things come in and out of style over time.

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Speaker 1: But I'll find that very interesting and It's so funny

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Speaker 1: this would come up, and I happen to see it too,

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Speaker 1: because Judy and I were getting our kitchen remodeled, and

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Speaker 1: we're looking at various colors and combinations and that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing like you do, and we're both inclined to

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Speaker 2: Honestly.

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Speaker 1: Now, our reasoning is, if something can be in, that

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Speaker 1: means it'll soon be out. It's the hot blue. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: something more classic, and I wonder if that factors into it.

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Speaker 1: Everything lasts, well, no, everything doesn't last longer. You're pink

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Speaker 1: refrigerator you bought in nineteen sixty three still gonna be

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Speaker 1: there twenty years later, unlike modern garbage.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we're tending toward less colorful stuff.

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Speaker 2: I certainly i've noticed that with the TV and movies.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a fad, like you know, Bell Bottoms

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Speaker 2: hope you can get it if you don't get the

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