1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to and that's what you were in this podcast. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it is TV musical, but not a 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: TV musical. The one of the longest running shows ever, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: is that right, Yeah, one of the most popular shows ever, 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows ever. 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Did a musical episode. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are doing Greats and Anatomies today they did 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: a musical episode song Beneath the Song. This is season seven, 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: episode eighteen. I can't wait to get into this with you, Kevin, 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: because I have no idea, but I have so many 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: thoughts and so many things. So here we are a 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: TV show, a medical drama with maybe a few singers, 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of nonsens, not not something that normally would 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: be a musical. And it premiered on March thirty first, 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, on ABC. 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So in the news this week, the number one 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: song in the country was Born This Way by Lady Gaga. 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: That's a really good one. 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: The movie was Limitless, starring Bradley Cooper, Ye de Niro. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Obviously I didn't see it. 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: I didn't see this either, and Glee was on, and 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Glee was on episode season two, episode sixteen. Original song 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: had just aired on March fifteenth. Wow, Yes, these are 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: like me. Trotty Mouth, Blackbird, Raizor Glass and the first 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: clean Kiss. What another huge. 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Also on March sixteenth, the cast and crew participated in 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: a panel discussion at the Pailey Fest. And we always 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: did these yearly. Lots of fans would come and we 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: would just gab and we would find out new information 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: from the creator. This was at the Savon Theater in 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. It was Matt, Jane, Corey, Chris Amber, Kevin 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Shenn and I, Heather, Darren Bryan, Ian Brad and Dante 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: were all there. I remember that, I definitely remember that. 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: But I remember Paleyfests by my outfit. 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Yes. Same. 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot of. 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Oral history of the song beneath the song, which I 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: did not know. 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: So before we. 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Dig into the nitty gritty of our opinions and what 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: happens and all of this, Kevin, I just wanted to 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: share this with you. 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty one, Shanta Land published. 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: An oral history of the episode marking its ten year anniversary, 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: and the interview Shanda and lots of the writers and 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: ko show runners and cast members, And they did talk 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: about how Shanda first pitched this idea, convincing ABC to 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: say yes, cast members who were panicking over having to 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: sing writer so and what it was like filming those 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: bear very surreal emotional moments and sometimes goofy scenes. It 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: came from a two thousand and eight benefit concert Kevin 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: where during the writer's strike were cast members from Gray's 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: and Private Practice and all of the Shonda shows sang 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: on stage, and she realized that she had a lot 59 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: of Broadway level talent right in front of her. Obviously, 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: the hero of this episode and one of the most 61 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: loved characters on Grey's Anatomy Sata Ramirez, who's a Tony 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Award winner. I saw them perform on the Tonys for. 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: What was It? 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Monty Python? 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: What a boys? Truly insane. 66 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: Truly they carried this episode. They were the hero. So 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: at first they even considered writing all new music, Evin, 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: but they scrapped that idea and they leaned into Grey's classics. 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: Which did you watch Grays? 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I watched the first three or four seasons. 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: Okay, those were important ones. 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Those all these relationships, all those songs that were so 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: instrumental and making the show what it was like that 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: early music choices, the Fray especially, it was like Gray's 75 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Anatomy scored by the Fray. Literally, it was a moment. 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: It was a huge deal to get your song on 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, like Chasing Cars and all that by Snow 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: like that was just huge. 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Okay, so yes, all these songs She's in Cars, 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: how to Save a Life like all part of the 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: show's DNA. So Shanda convinced the network. They initially said no, 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: and they were like, can't you just see another love triangle? 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: And she was so mad. She was like, no, I'm 84 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: not doing a love triangle. Imagine asking Shanda, can you 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: just do another love triangle instead of a musical episode. 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, imagine your show being that successful already for that 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: long and the network being like, no, you're doing twenty 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: two episodes in a season, Like, yeah, give them one. 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: So the cast put on a mini concert for all 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: of the executives at ABC. Kevin and Chandra and Sada 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: perform and Shannon narrated it, and Sandro even showed up 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: just to cheer them on. It was decided later that 93 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Christina was not going to sing at all, which I 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: totally respect as an actor to being like, no, my 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: character wouldn't sing. But the network caved and they gave 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the green light. And yeah, so this is very this 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: is very exciting and very inter racking for me to 98 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: watch this episode initially and then also yesterday. 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they knew this was coming, you know, like 100 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: for us, when we would get songs and everything, we 101 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: would record them in like thirty minutes. We hadn't necessarily 102 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: learned them before. For this episode, they rehearsed for months. 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: They took vocal lessons choreography on top of their long 104 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: shoot days that they're already filming. Yeah, and so like, 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you know, this was a moment that was building and 106 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: the story was building to this, So it wasn't just 107 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, done on a whim of Shonda Rhymes being like, 108 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: let's do it, and then they did it. Yeah, this 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: is methodical and done with the right intention. 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: So they also had Debbie Allen in their corner, who 111 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: was a character on the show and also a beloved 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: director of Grays. So Debbie was cree for then. 113 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: I mean really, yeah, it wasn't like they just did 114 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: a musical a couple of musical numbers. They did so 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: many songs. 116 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: It really drove the episode, whether it should have or not. 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I guess like if you're doing a musical episode like 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: in this format with this show, like you kind of 119 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: have to just lean into it, or like, why are 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you doing it all at all? 121 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: Is my feeling about it. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: I will say this is a fun fact that for Shonda, 123 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it is firmly in her top ten episodes of favorite episodes. 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: For Grays ever, Wow. 125 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Which they are on season what twenty at this point? 126 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: I think more than that. I think you're on twenty 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: one or twenty two. 128 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a cult favorite. 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: I understand that. And you know you warned me, you 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: said I would hate this episode. Yeah, I didn't hate it. Wow, Okay, 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: And I didn't hate it because I think I do 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: have that base, that foundation of knowing the show and 133 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: knowing the characters, and you still have so many of 134 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: the original characters on there, and they're so good. They're 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: chemistry with each other, their familiarity with each other is 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: so solid that you can fit in eight or nine 137 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: songs into an episode, and even if a number of 138 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: them aren't even singing that I just want to see them, 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: I just want to see them in relation to one another. 140 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think the formula of the show is 141 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: it it's procedural right where there is a formula, and 142 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: within that formula, I mean, there's nobody who does this 143 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: better than Shanda. There's a It's excellent at its best 144 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: form because the characters are there, the context of storylines 145 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: and the drama and the relationships and the subject matters 146 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: are all just really at a premium level, like everybody 147 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: is just doing the best at what they do. And 148 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, that's a part of why I 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: love Grace so much. Was it really it just the characters, 150 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: the feelings, you feel the reality of their dialogue. Now, 151 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: I know the medical stuff is always like controversial, you know, 152 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: they're like, oh god, that's not how you do that 153 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't really care. It doesn't matter to 154 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: me like that. That doesn't matter to me at all. 155 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: And in this context, like I don't care if they 156 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: don't have good voices. I don't care if the music 157 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: is not that good. It doesn't matter to me. It 158 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: is so it is important. This episode is important, and 159 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I think that the formula still stayed the same with 160 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: the music, Like, despite some of the questionable songs that 161 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: they did, Like, I still think that the formula was there, 162 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and the show was still there, and the characters show 163 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: and the story was still there, and what they were 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: fighting over would have happened in a dialogue or would 165 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: have happened with a song regardless, right, Like, regardless of 166 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: the music, if this wasn't a story, it could have existed. Right. 167 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I have favorites, and I have ones that I didn't love, 168 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: But let's just talk about the songs for a second, 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: and then let's just talk about like a kind of 170 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: our feelings in more in depth. So it starts with 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: Chasing Cars by Snow Patrol, which is, like I think, 172 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: for me, one of the most quintessential songs that speaks 173 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: grace anatomy to me. 174 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did, and they I loved that they 175 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: did it. I love that this was the first song 176 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: they did. Yea, you also have like the best singers 177 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: doing this song, like starting it off strong, like this 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: is what we're doing. I also think the whole sort 179 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: of Zoe's extraordinary playlist meets crazy anatomy aspect of this 180 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: of having Callie like watching herself and like explaining what's 181 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: going on in her head through it was like such 182 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: a strong concept that I also think it was sort 183 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: of for me the downfall of some of this music 184 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: stuff because they kept doing it, like every musical number 185 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: was almost the same because of that, Well. 186 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: You kind of needed her to do that because she 187 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: can't sing while she's in a coma, but also she 188 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: is the singer. Yeah, Calli is the singer. 189 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: They are the. 190 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So we breathe, Breathe, two am. That was also great. 191 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I think the the hard part of this 192 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: episode for me is I don't necessarily think any of 193 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: these songs are moving the story. I think they're. 194 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: They're extensions of the scenes, extensions. 195 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: Of the scenes where a lot of the time I 196 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: was like, I just want to hear what's happening, because 197 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: the story is so compelling that like I want to know, 198 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: I want to hear all the jargon and the emotional 199 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: stuff that's going on between all these characters. And sometimes 200 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: it felt like the songs actually impeded that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 201 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: they took away from it and the songs are almost 202 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: too long. Yeah, and Grey's Anatomy and Shonda Rhymes are 203 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: so great at they fit in a lot of words 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: into like forty two minutes. Yeah, and the rhythm was broken, 205 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: and I love the Shonda Rhymes rhythm, whether it's on 206 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Scandal or whether it was Yeah. Yeah. That being said, 207 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: I still thought a lot of these were like really 208 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: cool numbers, especially the first half I think of the episode. 209 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: Agreed. 210 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: I think it came out strong in the first half. 211 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: I think we've you know, a little bit through the middle, 212 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: we've kind of dip. But then to oh, to talk 213 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: about moving the plot, the one we're going to talk 214 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: about is the story. 215 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: Then, well, before we get there, Kevin mckid's voice, Oh yeah, beautiful, Yes, 216 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: beautiful voice. Beautiful when he started singing during Chasing Cars, 217 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: was like, because you know, I knew Sarah Ramirez's voice, 218 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: I've seen them perform in person. Yeah, Tony Winner, don't 219 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: take it for granted, but like, yeah, when the start 220 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: of this episode and should be the start of this episode, 221 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: but when Kevin mcgids are, I was like, oh my gosh. 222 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: It sings. 223 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Also Eric Dane surprisingly like wonderful tone. 224 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: But see, I think how they fit in all those 225 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: people who aren't necessarily comfortable singing, Yes, and was just 226 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: really really because all these actors on the show are 227 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: so good. It is so hard to be in a 228 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: procedural like this where you have to come in emotions 229 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: are on the surface already. I think it is so 230 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: impressive anybody who is on this type of show and 231 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: these people are the masters of it, like masterclass PhDs 232 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: of being on an emotional drama procedural. Yeah, yeah, like 233 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: that is such specific skill. I cannot overstate that enough. 234 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: And to do that while there are people, you know, 235 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: Eric Dane was an earlier in the episode where he's 236 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: behind someone who's singing, and like the scene continues on, 237 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: to be able to continue that emotion through these things 238 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: that I imagine for them weren't necessarily because like they weren't 239 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: doing music every week. 240 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: It's a very uncomfortable place to be to have music 241 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: playing and you be singing. Hearing these actors you've worked 242 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: with for so many years who have never sung in 243 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: their lives, being out of their comfort zone in their 244 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: home and their characters that are a home for them, 245 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: it is wildly uncomfortable. And if you don't ignore that 246 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: feeling like you're it's too much, right, so you have 247 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: to just kind of like power through and like and 248 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: they did. They really did. 249 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Oh I still button. Their performance did not suffer one percent. 250 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: I think another hard thing is when you're performing a 251 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: musical on TV or on film and you don't have 252 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: a lot to do with your body. There's a lot 253 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: of this episode which I think this is what bothered 254 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: me a lot, was that the performances were a lot 255 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: of standing like park and in the O R Yes, 256 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: and like every almost every every song was the same 257 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: sort of set up of just parking bark or it's 258 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: like now we're in a hallway and somebody's crying and 259 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to stand here and park and park. 260 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Well. I think that's why chasing cars, like the bookends 261 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: songs that are were the strongest were chasing cars in story, 262 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and I think because they were moving, like on the 263 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: gurney and like when when Cali is like going through 264 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: the halls and like telling the story of where they've 265 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: been and where they're going. 266 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: And coming back into their own. 267 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Body, You're like, oh, you know, like there's movement and 268 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you feel motivated and energized versus like what are they 269 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: doing with themselves, like or we're just watching them and 270 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: they're watching us, right, But it started out really strong 271 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: with chasing Cars. 272 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, Jenna's wrong, I'm not going to 273 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: hate this. 274 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I I'm so glad to hear this. And I also 275 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: watched it again, and I think watching it this time 276 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: because I think I also didn't love it the first 277 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: time I saw it, Like I would have just preferred 278 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: to watch Grace right, probably also because we were you know, 279 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Glee was on and we were just like enveloped in 280 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: musical TV and you're like, oh, no, the Perston's doing 281 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: musical TV show, not that we should be the only 282 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: ones doing it. 283 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: But. 284 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: And watching it through the lens of like loving the 285 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: show so deeply. It's still being on television, transcending so 286 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: much time and these characters still there and coming back 287 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: and returning, and it is so meaningful to me and 288 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: powerful to me from where this show started and where 289 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I was in my life. I remember watching the pilot 290 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: and exactly where I was. I remember like coming home 291 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: every weekend from college just to watch grays Natomy with 292 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: my parents, like it was special. 293 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: Like you show like this is give that grace to 294 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: like try it yeah, you should be given. 295 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: You got it? And where was I going with this? 296 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't even really know. I just I think watching 297 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: it this time around, I was more forgiving and also 298 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: more understanding of the way that Shanda wanted to do 299 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: this and for all these actors in the position they 300 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: were in, and then also just being like, wow, let's 301 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: just make excuse my language, working art and like make 302 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: it for the hell of it, and like take the 303 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: risk and do it because you know, why not? 304 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Like it felt like 305 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: a medical opera and a number of ways, and I 306 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: was like, why ye try it, Like, yeah, you have 307 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: the money, you have the budget, you have the talent, 308 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: Like do it again, You're doing twenty think of it. 309 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: We did twenty two episodes a year, gosh a season, 310 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: and like you take some big swings and some of 311 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: them work and some of them don't. But when you're 312 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: filling up twenty two episodes, you have the space to 313 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: try things. 314 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: Yep. 315 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: And I think this show is no different. It's sort of, 316 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: you know, an encapsulation of like what it is to 317 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: do a full season of a musical where some of 318 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: them really really work when they do connect with the 319 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: characters and the story and like how it's blocked properly, 320 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: like really beautifully and entertainingly, and then some of. 321 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: Them work and it's like, well, even like you know, 322 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Jessica Capshaw laughing about doing that number in the Clouds 323 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: like feeling ridiculous. She said that she felt ridiculous filming 324 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: the scene in the clouds in the car because it 325 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: was like a dream sequence and Scott Poley was just 326 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: freaking out and like cracking up every time. Was everybody 327 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: was doing like the Running on Sunshine dance sequence, because 328 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: it is it's like you're like, we do a drama 329 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: where people get like cut open every week and lies 330 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: are on the line and you know, all these things. 331 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: But then like we're just gonna add some danced and 332 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I like that there was like the self awareness to 333 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: know like this isn't insane, you guys, but we're doing it. 334 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: I also liked that they did do that though. I 335 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: was like, they're going to do a musical episode, they 336 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: got to throw in. 337 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: You better, so just to recap the whole what's happening 338 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: in the episode actually for people who didn't watch it 339 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: or don't remember and had seen it once, before. This 340 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: is a series first, and the music that had been 341 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: at the heart of the show, it had been beloved 342 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: by fans. It comes to life for Grays Anatomy the 343 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: music event. It's a cataclysmic event that rattles the doctors 344 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: of Seattle Grace to the core, which is usually like 345 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: a season finale, but Catalie, on the verge of an 346 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: enormous life changing moment with Arizona, envisions her hospital and 347 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: friends as it has never been seen before, chasing cars, 348 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: no patrol, how to save a life the story Randy 349 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Carlisle and that was from Abe see Publicity. 350 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: It's a perfect episode. Obviously they knew what they were 351 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: doing to do this with because you have the culmination 352 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: of what I'm assuming and what you can feel is 353 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: not just this season's worth, but like previous season's worth 354 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: of entanglements and drama coming to a head quite literally 355 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: with a car crash. And then like it's Gray's Anatomy, 356 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: take out the music, It's still Gray's Anatomy at its best. 357 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: Like what it does best, you take these beloved characters 358 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: and put them into really really intense, high pressure environments 359 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: and you have fights and you have conversations like a, well, 360 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: you have conversations like go terribly, you have hard conversations 361 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: about like in Vitro, you have questions, you have conversations 362 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: about like religion and the universe. All of that is 363 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: happening in this episode, while there's also eight musical numbers, 364 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Like all of those things happen, and it's just I'm 365 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: in awe of like how ELM Pompeo can have a 366 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: sixty second scene. Oh my, and just a look from 367 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: Patrick Dempsey and I'm like, what what what is you 368 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: guys are saying so good? 369 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: It's just we love an elevator scene. 370 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: I do also like on a technical level, everyone sounded great, 371 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Like the recording was great. Everyone was lip singing well. 372 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: I also love the medical masks over the mouths when 373 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: they're singing. I was like, good for you guys. 374 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Yes, well you have to. 375 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: How do you not like you just have to? 376 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: I that's the reality of it though, Like we're still 377 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: in a medical show. Mm hm, you know, we're still 378 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: in a medical TV show where these things have to 379 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: be even if it's in Calli's dreamland of what she 380 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: thought happens at the hospital, right and like she's seeing 381 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: this through music through the lens of music. 382 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: She is still. 383 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: In her world m h. 384 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: But also. 385 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: It was also fun to like go back because I 386 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen this season in a very long time and 387 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: I didn't remember who was dating who at this time 388 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: to go back and like revisit which characters were entangled 389 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: and intertwined at the time, and like where Derek. I 390 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: learned some things, Oh did you where Derek and Meredith 391 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: were in their relationship at the time, Like they were 392 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: obviously trying to have a baby and so like they 393 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: were farther into their relationship. And so it was definitely 394 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: exciting for me as a fan to revisit this, Like 395 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: I was like, do I go back and watch isn't 396 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: it I mean now. 397 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: Maybe? I also liked that there was like and there 398 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: was like a little joke of making fun of themselves 399 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: of just like what's going to happen now, like all 400 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: these characters, because I also think I have friends who 401 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: are doctors, and I think when I originally watched this, 402 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: I didn't and when you are dealing with such high 403 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: pressure stuff and they're so cavalierly in that one conversation 404 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: with Krev, like talking about yeah, she may live or 405 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: the baby may live, but if the baby lives and 406 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: she may die, or vice versa, and it feels like 407 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: flippant and they're making jokes, and then you have the 408 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: dream sequences, like all these things that feel crazy to 409 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: be happening. Is such a high stakes, high pressure life 410 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: or death situation, but it's like you sort of have 411 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: to do that in the face of like the darkness 412 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: and heaviness all the time. And I like that they 413 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: are facing that head on. I didn't remember that from 414 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy when I started watching it. Mm hmmm, Like 415 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: that was a nice surprise, Like, oh, even in this 416 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: we're still getting a little bit of like dark humor. 417 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, there's also like I always liked these 418 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: episodes best where something was happening to one of their own, 419 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: Like it happened initially when they set the precedent when 420 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: they found out that Double O seven was George. It 421 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: was George who was the one who had gotten what 422 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: do you got hit by a car burned or something. 423 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: It was just it was something very dramatic and she's like, 424 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: it's George, and I will never heard of at that moment. 425 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: But I always liked it because you just are so 426 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: much more invested in these characters because it's one of 427 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: your own. And to have like these scenes where everybody's 428 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: entangled with Kelly. I mean, like doctor Sloan's having a baby, 429 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: but you know, Jessica Capshaw, it was Dakota's like all 430 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: you know in the relationship and she was about to propose. 431 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: And so everybody's so deeply involved with the patient like 432 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: that when they're talking about this person, it's like they're 433 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about it like a patient, but then they're also 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: talking about it, like you said, as one of their own, 435 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: and it raises the stakes of course, and you're just 436 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: I just I always like those episodes more and when 437 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: they're like you're too close to this, get out. So 438 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: then when Jessica Capshaw's character has to step in for 439 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: the baby, when the born and they look at each 440 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: other and she like nods and she goes over and 441 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: she like goes to work, it's like the work and 442 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: personal split combined that every day they're battling. 443 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: That is just it is so effective. 444 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: It is so effective, and it's just what makes the 445 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: show so good. 446 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: Which is sort of what bothered me about the music, 447 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: to be honest, because those moments are so good and 448 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: like when she steps up in that moment, I was like, 449 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: you know, like and like I don't want to hear 450 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: a song. I don't want someone to break into song 451 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: right now, Like I just want to like go back 452 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: to Cali, like I just want to know what's happening 453 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: there except accept the story. 454 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I was waiting. 455 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: I knew it was coming. That's waiting. 456 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: When the first chords of that song started, I was like, oh, 457 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: I was like, let me buckle up because I know 458 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: that song well. I know Brandy Carlyle well, like her 459 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: voice well. And after seeing a full episode of Sara 460 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: Ramirez singing, it was like, this is going to be 461 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: by your works. Little that I know it was going 462 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: to end with Sara Ramirez singing at themselves waking themselves 463 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: up out of a coma Jenna by grabbing their own ankles, 464 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: have goosebumps. 465 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: And then slipping back and. 466 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Slipping back into it and then looking and saying, yes, 467 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: get out of here. 468 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I know. 469 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: And I think that was truly the only moment for 470 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: me where the song was at the same level of 471 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: the normal Gray's Anatomy storytelling, and it progressed the story 472 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: like the whole episode was for that and it's and 473 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: it's worth. 474 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: It, worth it. 475 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. 476 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think, like I said, the only other 477 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: one that I think was at that level might have 478 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: been chasing cars and it was still like when you're 479 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: in the r you're not expecting to see surgeons, your 480 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: your favorite character. 481 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: I think it could have been a little shorter and 482 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: I would have bought it a little. 483 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I think the way that the story was shot also, 484 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: and then also being in that like bridge hallway with 485 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: the white and this, you know, the movement behind it. 486 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, okay, sawdust performance though, but uh, I. 487 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: Think you're right. 488 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: I think it is like it's the it's the one, 489 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: and it's worth it, and it is at the level 490 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I have to go back and listen to. 491 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: That, because, like any covering a Brandy Carlile song is 492 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: like a stupid idea in general, because her voice is 493 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: so unique and powerful and she writes so well for 494 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: her own voice. Yes, but this is justice. The original 495 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: No Discover is just as good. 496 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: And the song is so good, and I remember this 497 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: song like re emerging after Sada did it, So I 498 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: guess the question that I had for you going into 499 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: this episode, which I think you answered for me, but 500 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: we entered it earlier on in the episode, was like 501 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: should they have done this? 502 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Ultimately yes, yeah, but I feel like yes because. 503 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: Why not exactly right, why not take the risk do 504 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: the thing? 505 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: And also if it's like, look, we can get Sara 506 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: Ramirez singing the story by Brandy Carla at the end 507 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: of this and like, yeah, do what you gotta do. 508 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: The other song, when Kevin the Kid's in the they're 509 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: all the all the sergeants are arguing about like how 510 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna proceed, and Kevin sings the song it was 511 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: how we operate or wait, I can't remember, and he's like, 512 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: walk with me, and then they all walk with him. 513 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: Well having with Chandra Wilson started singing when they're all 514 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: arguing about like what to do? Yeah, and like she 515 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: turns to the camera. There's also one where I forgot 516 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: who was walking in the hallway and you catch them 517 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: look through the door and they're singing. I'm like, this 518 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: is very Rachel Barry Coach, like singing through the hallway 519 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: door into the choir room. Did you feel like any 520 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: sort of dream sequence, like you know when Tina had 521 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: her dream sequence when she falls into the fountain and 522 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: we and we do that, or and everybody gets high 523 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: off the gas and there's pilots, or everyone gets high 524 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: from John Samos and we turn into Britney Spears puppets 525 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: puppet Like did you feel did you think of that 526 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: at all while watching this? 527 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Like? 528 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh didn't. I didn't. 529 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: It's so separate. 530 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Question, Kevin, good question. 531 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: It was separate because I think anything grais anatomy in 532 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: this particular show. I'm not comparing to Brink. 533 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I don't either. 534 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm thinking about that. I actually didn't 535 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: even really think about it until this morning. But now 536 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: that I know that you mention it, Like, yeah, sure, 537 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I get it. I get the concept behind it. It's 538 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: not what we did. And I think it had to 539 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: happen this way for Grace, like this had to be 540 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: the context in which they are, you know, they were 541 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a whole newsical episode. Was like seeing it 542 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: through the lens of somebody who was, you know, an 543 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: outer body or whatever they were. You know, But I 544 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: know I didn't really. But let's let's create some performances. Okay, great, 545 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: chasing cars. 546 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean A, yeah, breathe how we operate. 547 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: B. 548 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: If we're just talking the song, I think it's like 549 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: an A. I think Kevin McKidd sounds great. Yeah. Yeah, 550 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: context with the show would be. 551 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: B wait. 552 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: B minus running on Sunshine. You know what, I'm just 553 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna give it to them because that was out of 554 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: their comfort zone. And I know how hard that was 555 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: probably for a lot of people to stretch the Robber 556 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Band that far. So I'm just gonna go with A 557 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: B plus. 558 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, same universe, knew. 559 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: B B Grace. I liked all their voices together a lot. Yeah, 560 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: I wish we had more of that, to be honest, Yeah, 561 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: this is trio here. Yeah, I'd give it an A 562 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: how to. 563 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: Save a Life? 564 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be better. 565 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: I was just about to say I wanted this because 566 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: the song is want to say, this is what I 567 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: think of Yeah, like this to me, Yeah, like this 568 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: is what made the whole like musical Gray's Anatomy musical 569 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: Combo made in Heaven. Thing happened right, and it just 570 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: felt like. 571 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: And like I think like some of the actors made 572 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: the choice to like talk this one more, and I 573 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to like hear the song something like I. 574 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: Think Kevin McKidd like, no, but I think Kevin McKay. 575 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: It started it and he chose to like start this 576 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: in like more of a dialogue form, and I'm like, 577 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: but it's how to say a life, Like, let's just 578 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: sing it, you know, like, let's just sing the song 579 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to. 580 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 2: I think because they only had one episode to do 581 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: this with, like they tried everything and so yes, yes, 582 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: they hadn't. They didn't have another song where they sort 583 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: of like talked their way into it. I know, so 584 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: like they tried it, but like, don't do it on 585 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: this song. 586 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Give it a be minus yeah, 587 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: but then we have the story, which I'm gonna get 588 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: a plus plus. 589 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: A plus plus plus plus. Like really, if you haven't 590 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: seen this episode, I think if you go into it 591 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: thinking it of like a an opera, yes, it's really 592 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: fun is probably the wrong word for it, but it 593 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: is because it breaks the mold of what you're not 594 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: you're used to seeing in a procedural obviously and especially 595 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: in Grace. But it's easier to do it on because 596 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: it's not like you have shows like Chicago Med that 597 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: are more like medically focused, not so much behind. Yeah, 598 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: Grays is a little more soapy, yeah, and I mean 599 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: that complimentary. 600 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 601 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Or it's more about the emotion and the inner workings 602 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: of the relationships, dynamics of the characters, and so like 603 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: having music to do that does fit more organically. Should 604 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: we do some tarty takes? 605 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's definitely do it. Cringe moments. I don't know 606 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: if there was anything. 607 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: No, I mean the dream sequence sort of made me 608 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable, but like, yeah, but that's not like 609 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: cringe because it's wrong. 610 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Right exactly, didn't age differently? The best dance move and 611 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: there are no dance moves. 612 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: No, I think the best song the story, Oh, the story, 613 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: best prop I mean this is the baby, the little baby. 614 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Well this week little Baby, that one got me good. 615 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: Best line. 616 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: What I was talking about earlier with Kreb being like, 617 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: no big deal. She works here at Seattle Grace Mercy Death, 618 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: so I'm sure she's pretty much gonna go crazy or 619 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: get cancer or shot by a gumman or hit by 620 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: a truck, So don't get your hopes up for Creb's 621 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: big happy ever after. 622 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: I love Krab and I love the way they write 623 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: krab for him to be so I don't even know 624 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: what the word I'm looking for is. 625 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: But she's like. 626 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Crass. 627 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he also says. 628 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Like the right things. So Lucy says, it makes me 629 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: look like a complete moron in front of my colleagues 630 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: when they're up on the helipad and he's like, they're 631 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: not thinking about you, they're thinking about Torres. 632 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but suck it. 633 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: Up, like, yeah, he has like no filter and he 634 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: doesn't care, and he's like, you're wrong, you know. 635 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: So it's not personal, like he's not he doesn't take 636 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: these things personally. He's just like, let me read you. 637 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: We know what we didn't mention. I know. I think 638 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: she was not on the show by this point, but 639 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: I loved seeing Kate Walsh. 640 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she she comes back and forth at this point. 641 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: She's on and off at this point. 642 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed lot. Like, especially someone who has 643 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: not watched grays a out of me in a long time. Well, 644 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: I've watched some of the new episodes because you know, Harry, 645 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: but like some of the earlier people on the show, 646 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: it's like it feels like home. 647 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: No, I know, I loved these early days. 648 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: Uh performance, MVP Sarah, you can't you can't not say 649 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: the Tony Winner, I mean the hero a vocalist. Gosh, 650 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: so good and also just like shout out to the 651 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: ensemble for all those incredible emotional scenes that they do 652 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: week in week out. This episode was ripe with them. 653 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: I do like them. I miss seeing Sandra, Oh I 654 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: missing ELM Pompeo and an elevator. Oh my gosh, it's great. 655 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: I know. 656 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: On a completely different note, the ship we found on 657 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: TikTok trigger warning. It says the f slur and I'm gay, 658 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: so I can. It has that scene from K Not 659 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: Wheels or Not Wheels with K. I don't know. It's 660 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: an outfit and Target is this target. I'm assuming it's target. 661 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: One of us. 662 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: It looks like Target. It's very much something Fin would wear. 663 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 2: And it says I can't unsee it and it is 664 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: right legit. 665 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so good. The shirt. 666 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 2: The shirt, it's like it's the way that Finn stands 667 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: like the mannequin wearing this. 668 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 3: I know. 669 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: It's so good. 670 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for posting that. I mean not that 671 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: it was. 672 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: For us, but you know, some once that I want 673 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: to repost so bad. I know it feels like a 674 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: weird one of like can we repost it's a little inappropriate, 675 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: but oh, in all, I had fun watching Gray's anatomy. 676 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. I'm relieved. 677 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: I think it's good when you set my expectations really low. 678 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll just continue to do that. Then, thanks for listening. 679 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 2: I just want to say, like, when we do these 680 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: things and we're like critiquing them or saying negative things, 681 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: it's never about like the people in it are doing it. 682 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: These things are always hard to do and it's not 683 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 2: always going to be like successful or too let's say 684 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: like our tastes. That doesn't not mean it's not valid 685 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: and good, Like I don't. Oh no, for sure, you 686 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: know we're just talking and. 687 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: No basis true. 688 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: No, but I love it. I am enjoying watching these things, 689 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: and I for what we watch next. 690 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: So next up we will be watching Grease. So go 691 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: take a watch and thank you for listening. 692 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 3: Come back next week and that's what you really missed. 693 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and 694 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 695 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. See you 696 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: next time.