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Speaker 1: The volume A right, we back at the episode of

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Speaker 1: Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the house, Miami is DJ

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Speaker 1: well special guests in the building. To my left, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna introduce my Man's last But to my far left

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Speaker 1: we got my dog. BI should be hearing out the prailes.

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Speaker 1: How you were nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: it another one.

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Speaker 2: I already know it's about to be episode. My boy

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Speaker 2: got the.

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Speaker 3: Tower long getting a little hot liquor, a little.

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Speaker 1: Spotsy, and my little you got the all white song.

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Speaker 1: I know you watched the show. My Man's normally keep

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Speaker 1: the all black forces with the white lacens. Y'all rocked

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Speaker 1: them out in Cali. Man with the white lace, All

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Speaker 1: black with the white lace. Nasty, I'm gonna take care

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Speaker 1: of you, bro, all.

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Speaker 2: Black forces and white saying you just.

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Speaker 3: Had a good game too at the worst name, I

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Speaker 3: should have sent him then for the Drew, for the Drew.

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Speaker 3: That's wow, you got on the perfect outfit. That's one

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Speaker 3: of my typical outfits.

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Speaker 2: Stinking right there. That's the beautiful I got.

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Speaker 3: You know what them fourteen thirteen thirteen. That's easy, that's like,

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Speaker 3: that's on the way all the way. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: Addy after this period for sure. To about right, my

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Speaker 3: dog young not your young team.

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Speaker 4: How you are, man, I'm chilling, bro, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: We got an old non draftee in here. You know,

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Speaker 4: we got draft at the same time. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how he's still playing, but don't worry about it. I'm

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Speaker 4: so proud of it though. Man, we go way back.

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Speaker 4: So I'm geek to have be a part of this

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Speaker 4: episode for show.

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Speaker 1: For Shure Man legend in the building, one of the

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Speaker 1: coaches to touch a basketball professional score, six time All Star,

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Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. We got the man to Martin

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Speaker 1: Rossan in the building. Appreciate you sliding on this big

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Speaker 1: dog Man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 5: I've been You're my partner, and tell you, like all

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Speaker 5: the homies be like, man, you gotta go, you gotta

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Speaker 5: go on the show. You gotta go on the show,

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Speaker 5: you know. So I'm hyped to be on here. Man

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Speaker 5: to me, I call this like the hoops drink chance,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Always check it out.

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Speaker 5: We always be laughing, sending sending everything to the group chat.

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Speaker 5: So I'm na have to be on it for show.

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Speaker 1: Sure, man, glad I have you man crazy order story

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Speaker 1: and might put it in the chat. We got to

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Speaker 1: start therapy here with the with the with the with

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Speaker 1: the bag man.

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Speaker 3: When p Miller founding, when person found he put you

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Speaker 3: right on the TV show right away. Bro, How was

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Speaker 3: that though?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: How did that even come about?

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Speaker 2: Man? Bro?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 5: It was the most random moment ever because at the

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Speaker 5: time I was playing on AU team, so everybody who

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Speaker 5: with the P Miller Ballers, we was on another A

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Speaker 5: team before that, and that was like our last year.

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Speaker 5: I think we had just one like Nationals and was

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Speaker 5: breaking up sponsorship and everything. So we was we was

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Speaker 5: all just trying to figure out what we was going

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Speaker 5: we got word like Master p wanted to have an

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Speaker 5: AU team. You know, He's gonna have tryouts at at

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Speaker 5: all right, this is just his team. He not actually

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Speaker 5: all show up to the high school pee walking. Then

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Speaker 5: Romeo walk in with him, like all right, we got

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Speaker 5: practiced three man weave, four man we five man weave,

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Speaker 5: thinking it's gonna be a moment just that. So he

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Speaker 5: So it became a consistent thing like oh damn, we

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Speaker 5: he coaching too, Like you know, we were about to

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Speaker 5: He always used to invite us to the house. So

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Speaker 5: we used to go to his house practice in the backyard,

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Speaker 5: Just crazy shit that damn nobody, especially for me at

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Speaker 5: the time, like I'm fourteen, coming from like Compton. Were

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Speaker 5: going to the house. He got a tennis court, pool,

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Speaker 5: time we watching him record make albums at the time,

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Speaker 5: rome doing the Romeo Show, So it was like it

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Speaker 5: was a trip at that time, knowing like we about

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Speaker 5: a coach. Was any other top Dogs on your team

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Speaker 5: with you? Yeah, Brandon was on that team. We had

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Speaker 5: a we had a kid named Yeah on that Okay,

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Speaker 5: we had remember baby Shack, he played on our on

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Speaker 5: we just rocked out after that.

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Speaker 3: That's hard, b I had a That ship was funny

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Speaker 3: as fun It was a trip bro trusted. We had

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Speaker 3: our own bus going to.

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Speaker 5: Games like we was like we was like on some

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Speaker 2: No fact, were pulling up the whole gym wade like

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Speaker 2: it was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was in the spotlight early, which is.

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Speaker 4: Crazy because I met him at a B C D camp.

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Speaker 4: He probably don't remember. I was just a young star, buddy,

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Speaker 4: and don't even worry about it. I was just trying

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to do anything I could do to get

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Speaker 4: a scholarship. Me and him are on the same team

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Speaker 4: at ABCD, can't. I'm gunning. I'm going to be a senior.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get some offers here. You're younger. I'm

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Speaker 4: having a moment. I'm playing good, shining, doing my thing.

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Speaker 4: I get a couple offers after the first day, like well,

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Speaker 4: I got like forty but whatever, so I'm having a

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Speaker 4: good day. The next day, he tapped me on the shoulder.

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Speaker 4: It's master p I'm thinking he about to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you nice, so you know. I'm like, he like, hey,

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Speaker 4: my man, that kid right there can play. Give him

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Speaker 4: a chance, play with him. He tell me a play

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Speaker 4: to do, like drive to the middle, throw it up.

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Speaker 4: He gonna go get it. I swear to god I

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Speaker 4: did that. I threw it up when we dunked it,

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Speaker 4: I ain't get the ball no more.

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Speaker 1: Every I swear everything. I love Bro every play for Bro. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he was killing I'm like, damn, who is this dude?

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Speaker 1: And they like he played for Pete Miller. I'm like, Damn,

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Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. I'm like, but they'll be cool

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Speaker 1: with master P like saying ice cream.

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Speaker 4: Look, but that's what I knew. I seen him right there.

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Speaker 4: And then the scene when we get drafted, I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's different.

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Speaker 3: Did you play the Pete Millers?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I played him. You know. It's crazy fight up now.

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Speaker 5: It was the time I was playing in him so much, right,

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Speaker 5: And I don't think I ever talked about this. Romeo

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Speaker 5: Countin High right, we were.

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Speaker 2: Trying to I've never told this story. Bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad it's here.

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Speaker 2: So wrong.

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Speaker 5: Ron was trying to figure out how to go to

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Speaker 5: We made them all blue. Everybody had blue p Miller.

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Speaker 5: So rome was like, you know, really trying to figure

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Speaker 2: So we meet him with the school.

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Speaker 5: They was like, man, he'd just show off the games,

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Speaker 5: he get the work once a week, do the work

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Speaker 5: all that. So we end up having like a practice,

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Speaker 5: like he came to my high school, had a practice.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about every gang member outside of the gym.

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Speaker 5: Everything we go hoop. As soon as we come out

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Speaker 5: really trying to go to high school with me, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like we was really like about

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Speaker 5: to sponsor this school to wear Pete Miller's and everything,

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Speaker 5: but it ended up not working out and everything. But

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Speaker 5: that was a crazy It was a crazy time because

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Speaker 5: especially at that time, like you're talking about little Romeo

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Speaker 5: going to Conte Hide that shu don't even sound right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah too much, Yeah, doing the beach somewhere. She really

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Speaker 5: Yeah he could hoop, he can hoop for like, he

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Speaker 5: definitely you know, cal hoop, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: he definitely surprised if it was something you stick with,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, it all come down the size

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Speaker 2: His little brother nice though. Yeah, he don't want. He

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mercy, Mercy, he gonna be the one to He

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Speaker 5: going to Houston next year, but he definitely gonna be

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And what's so crazy is people forget like he made

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Speaker 1: it to the crazy but he used to hoop. What

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Speaker 1: it's every day Like he will come in who play

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Speaker 1: for real? Damn they're about to fight you everything Like

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Speaker 1: he playing like bully ball, shooting threes like he used

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Speaker 3: That's t bro, that's fire. It's the cold moment that

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Speaker 3: you got to brace early, bro, like the pick they got, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they got to do rags and that's a fire album

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Speaker 3: cover look like, but that was that was at a

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Speaker 3: video shoot, bro, that's even harder.

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Speaker 5: Look, no bull ship, I used to miss school to

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Speaker 5: go to a video shoots. Whoever had a video if

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Speaker 5: he had a video rum. I would miss school, be

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Speaker 1: Because we heard you. It's just a side bar. We

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Speaker 1: heard you rap today they ain't play that.

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Speaker 2: Ship said you definitely got bars, So it might have

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Speaker 2: started from there.

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Speaker 1: So for sure, Man, But like crazy basketball origin man

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Speaker 1: going crazy in high school?

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Speaker 5: Was it a no brainer you was going to USC Man? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I didn't want to leave home. It's crazy. I

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Speaker 5: took a visit. I took a couple of visits with

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Speaker 5: the North Carolina, Florida State cal somewhere else. I took

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Speaker 5: like unofficials. But when I went to Florida State at

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Speaker 5: the time, that's when all the hurricanes and ship was

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Speaker 5: going on. So I'm out there, I'm like, Man, ain't

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Speaker 5: no way in hell I'm leaving home.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, If this ship happened, I'm terrified.

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Speaker 5: So once once I've seen that happen, I was like, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm staying home regardless. Then I started looking at it

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Speaker 5: on some real ship. I started looking at it like, man,

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Speaker 5: if I go to the NBA, it's a good chance

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to play home. So let me get

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Speaker 5: let me enjoy playing home one last time and ship

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Speaker 5: I do that and get my ascent to Canada, like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I wasn't tripping on nothing because I was home,

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Speaker 2: I was out. I was.

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Speaker 4: I was going, what was you battling with in high school?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, against I played against Drew. I've been playing against

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Speaker 5: it from Drew Holliday. Okay, somebody was like man. He

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Speaker 5: Dang yill, smart, crafty, defensive, like defensively all over the floor.

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Speaker 2: He was the same exact way.

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Speaker 3: He cold the cold.

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Speaker 5: So it's like all those guys played against him since

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Speaker 5: Clay play was my high school class. Oh a, so

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Speaker 5: you know we had a we had a we have

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Speaker 2: And how was it playing at the crib in college?

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. My first two months in college

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Speaker 5: I struggled because it was like, you know, you go

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Speaker 5: you know, run the offense for twenty five seconds before

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Speaker 5: It was cool, just out of family there, you know, ship,

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Speaker 2: Compting, like you know what I mean, like it was,

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Speaker 5: And you play with my dog, My dog man really

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Speaker 5: like he helped me through that whole even before we

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Speaker 2: G Man, real one dog, tell you a real one

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Speaker 2: for sure. Facts he told us you it was a dog.

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Speaker 4: He was like, Man, I had oj the year before

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Speaker 2: Did, my dog man. That's a good dude, man, for sure. Man.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you a question of how true

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Speaker 1: You play the part in the US getting their own

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Speaker 5: And it more so came from the relations ship I

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Speaker 5: like Steve Nash camp YEP for Kobe Camp, Paul Periods Camp. Yeah, Mari,

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Speaker 5: I think it was a Mari Mark camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it just started from, you know, my relationship with Cob.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a picture that that started to go around.

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Speaker 5: I was a cold camp. Cob was talking to me.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting like front row. Clay was in the picture.

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Speaker 5: Were like fifteen, sixteen years old, and you know, ever

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Speaker 5: you know, I think when the Kobe once came out,

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Speaker 5: back to, you know, google me in high school my

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Speaker 2: The Nike. I d Kobe's damn every colorway.

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Speaker 5: It was to a point like all through high school,

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Speaker 5: people tell you like I had so many Kobe's. After

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Speaker 5: he clowned you know, so it was like it was

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Speaker 5: you out of pocket high school. That's fire hard, Like

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Speaker 5: you know this was, so it was like, you know,

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Speaker 5: s C at the time, I think the Kobe Fords

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Speaker 2: Was out, and you know it just ran away with

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Speaker 4: But you're gonna tie your shoes though, never have like

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Speaker 4: how you That's why I know he is trench baby. Listen,

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Speaker 4: he hooped without his shoes tied brow just like this,

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking.

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Speaker 5: But but the thing, you know why though, what like

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Speaker 5: I played a new shoe every game, so you know

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Speaker 5: how like most guys gotta break their shoe and everything,

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Speaker 5: so I like the tight fit. So I gotta put

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Speaker 5: on a new shoe every game. So I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't need the time. And it all started and forget.

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Speaker 5: I got some Jordan Nines when I was like eleven

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Speaker 5: years old. I got I have had some Jordan I

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Speaker 5: never told this story. Either have some Jordan Nyn's and

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Speaker 5: I got them for like Christmas or some shit. So

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Speaker 5: I wanted to wear them in a game. So my

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Speaker 5: in the game. So it's like all right, you messing

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Speaker 5: on messing them up, that's on you. So I never

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Speaker 5: So I was like, man, I'm just playing these motherfuckers

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Speaker 5: eleven years old. I didn't want to fucking my Jordan Yns.

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Speaker 4: You just hoop and the motherfucker giving you thirty five

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Speaker 4: forty and he ain't tied shit.

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Speaker 2: With elite footwork. That's the crazy.

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Speaker 1: Are the best fits of basketball history and your shoes

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Speaker 5: It's so crazy because it's been so many games. I

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Speaker 4: Bro, I'm about to I'll never forget San Antonio. You

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask Mark for his jersey. I was like

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Speaker 4: But I was like, man, he oh, nah, I'm a

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask for some kobees too, I said.

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Speaker 2: Nigga ain't got shoes up.

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Speaker 1: I said, man, he's not about to play to night.

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Speaker 1: This nigga proceeds to get like thirty five. I never

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Speaker 1: laced this shop, I said, man.

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Speaker 4: I told the people on the bell, like wig, you know,

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Speaker 4: he just gave you thirty five.

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Speaker 1: He ain't tied his shoes any durable though you always play.

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Speaker 3: You tell your shoes like you do construction, and still

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Speaker 2: Look at me.

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Speaker 1: I tied my shoes all the way up. What ship

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Speaker 3: Was flopping down on the ground tide certainly right now,

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Speaker 3: that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I was doing this ship all right.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's the trick. Don't like your shoes. Like your shoes, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't. It ain't for everybody.

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Speaker 5: And I'll be seeing some niggas hurt their ankle and

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Speaker 5: they tied how they show up all tight like I.

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Speaker 1: Never ye, Nigga's lame. Don't worry, bro, I can't relate.

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Speaker 1: But that's crazy. Like you said, man, you kill usc

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Speaker 1: Did you get drafted and then you go to Canada

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Speaker 1: Like you didn't want to go to Floida because that

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Speaker 2: You go to a whole other country.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I needed it though, because I was

439
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 5: so stuck on being home and scared to leave home

440
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 5: that I needed that to kind of get me in

441
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 5: an element of you know, a lot of my ways

442
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 5: I follow now was from me going to Canada my

443
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 5: first year of being by myself, nobody able to come,

444
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 5: none of my cousins, nobody had a passport, nobody even

445
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 5: knew who the passport was. Like, I didn't get a passport,

446
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 5: and so two days before I got drafted, like so

447
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 5: let alone my family got one. So I'm up there

448
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 5: just by myself, and all I could do was just

449
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 5: focus on who you know what I mean, Like I

450
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 5: didn't have no distractions. I didn't have to worry about

451
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 5: people in and out. So it was it was. It

452
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 5: was beneficial for me, it was. And I had great

453
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 5: vets too at the time, you know what I mean,

454
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 5: Like Jared Jack helped me out a lot.

455
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: That was my that was my that was my roll.

456
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 5: Dog like he was the first person introduced me to

457
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 5: a lot of ways on how to dress wintertime, with

458
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 5: to eat you know what I mean, all that, you know,

459
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,479
Speaker 5: So it gave me a chance just to lock in.

460
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 5: So I was I was definitely grateful for that because

461
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 5: you know, if I would anywhere else, who knows what

462
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 5: would have happened.

463
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Facts, damn, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, your

464
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: first winter, boy, it was different.

465
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 5: Oh no, it was different because winter hit. I just

466
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 5: remember getting off the plane one time, it's snowing. I

467
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: got chucks on the park, you know what I mean.

468
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 5: By the time I get in the car, my whole

469
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 5: angle fro, you know what I mean. Like I'm like,

470
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 5: I didn't know what to wear, how to wear win awear,

471
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, so everything was like

472
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 5: a new learning experience for me that I needed.

473
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: You know what, I meant to play with one of

474
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: the gods, Cal Lorry.

475
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a couple of years later. Yeah that's Cal.

476
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 5: Like I talked to Cal every fucking day all day.

477
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 5: He called me early Cal. When Kyle came to Toronto,

478
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 5: it was interesting because I didn't. I didn't have a

479
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 5: relationship with him at all. Like we played for a

480
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 5: whole year together and I never even said a word

481
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 5: to him. Damn we didn't talk. It was like literally

482
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 5: no word. We're talking about coming practice. It wasn't no

483
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 5: like dap up. But none of that ship like like

484
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 5: it wasn't it wasn't nothing like he he He was

485
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: a type that I was still stuck in the mindset

486
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 5: of having like a complementality, like, man.

487
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: Who is this nigga? Like what do he? You know?

488
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: He Philly, you know what I mean?

489
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 5: He coming in with his aggressive manner, doing whatever it

490
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 5: is he doing, getting on like man.

491
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: Who he too good for niggas? Like I ain't talking

492
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: to him.

493
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 5: But one thing like I noticed over time was like

494
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 5: he really put into work and cared about you know,

495
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 5: the craft, you know what I mean. It was like

496
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 5: no no funny games when it it was all it

497
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 5: was all strictly business. And like that next year, I

498
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 5: respected that more than anything that it made me want

499
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 5: to be like closer to him, you know what I mean,

500
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 5: because he a ride and die for you on that court.

501
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 5: You know that's how that's how the respect came and

502
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 5: ship next day. Yeah, like next thing, you know, like

503
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 5: like that that became our roll though, like you know

504
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 5: what I mean to where like we we we had

505
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 5: shipped to a t in the game to where like

506
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 5: he and no, like I come out beginning the game,

507
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I'm going for a first quarter.

508
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: I'm getting to it. It's I bet I get the

509
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: second half.

510
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 5: Like we played off each other so much like that

511
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 5: because we was you know, from the friendship and understanding,

512
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 5: like we just wanted to win that bad.

513
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: And what's so crazy is like y'all historically like built

514
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a franchise up there. You know, you had Vincent teammate

515
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: up there, but which'll did and the Raptors Jersey is

516
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: up there starting the test of time.

517
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, And that just one thing I definitely like,

518
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 5: you know, hold my hat too, because it's like you know,

519
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 5: we we you know when I first got there and

520
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: nobody gave a shit about it about it, you know

521
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: what I mean. People would come to Toronto knowing they

522
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: was getting to win, like that was automatic. I like

523
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 5: to have a time every time, like every time, like

524
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 5: it was a thing like bro like it was it was,

525
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 5: it was it was a thing. Like I remember, we

526
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 5: used to play either Saturday or Sundays. We used to

527
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 5: have early games on the weekend, like a twelve o'clock

528
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 5: twelve thirty game, and we were so bad. We used

529
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 5: to be like, man, we could get whoever we playing

530
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: because we know they without the night before. Damn, you

531
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's how bad. That's where we

532
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 5: had to start from and fight a way out of that.

533
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: So you know, I definitely probably myself on just you know,

534
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 5: changing and shifting the culture to have it like a

535
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 5: you know, a winning mentality there for sure.

536
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I start smacking shit boy.

537
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that group. I used to want to

538
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: be on that. Yea, I've seen so bad. It was

539
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 4: you a mirror.

540
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

541
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 4: Y'all had like this cool ass team, like y'all was

542
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: fresh as fuck. Y'all always remember one game y'all had

543
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: on Jordan Six's.

544
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, I won't play on this team.

545
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: They look like they young. We smacked y'all, we get

546
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: the hell out of them. But I was like, they

547
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: look cool, like they look like they have a good time.

548
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: Man.

549
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I want to play on this team.

550
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: And then to see y'all go from nat to all

551
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: sudden like, oh, we about to go Toronto. We gotta

552
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: play this nigga, Kyle are about to be taking charges.

553
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: We got to send the double for debo. Bro. You know,

554
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: he get to this mill round just about to get crazy.

555
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: And so to see y'all take it from there to

556
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: like I'm having fun looking at y'all like, y'all you

557
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 4: had fun.

558
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they real contenders. It's crazy.

559
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: Sure what year did the city really get lit?

560
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: Though?

561
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: So we're you know, Drake and everybody pulling up to

562
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: the game.

563
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: Drake, Drake will always come, but he was you got

564
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 5: to think about early on. That's when he just started

565
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: to blow up too, you know what I mean. So

566
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: I think when it really started taking off was that

567
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 5: first year we went to the place we played, Brooklyn.

568
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 5: I think that was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. You know,

569
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 5: we we end up started having like the Jurassic Park outside.

570
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 5: That was hard, all the fans standing outside. We just started, like,

571
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 5: you know, they started like this whole rebranding outside ind

572
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: and we just took care of everything on the floor.

573
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: So I want to say around thirteen fourteen when it

574
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 5: really really took off.

575
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: And you could tell, like they had that one like

576
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: the logo on the floor that was like three D. Yeah, yeah,

577
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: I had the Camo jerseys and shit, ye really.

578
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 5: They really started to change and rebrand everything, you know

579
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: what I mean, team wise and brand wise, and you know,

580
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 5: we kind of took off with it. And you know,

581
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 5: obviously like when when Drake got behind it, and you know,

582
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: we everything kind of just fell in line, honestly. You

583
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: know with the winning, you know, winning always saw saw

584
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 5: of everything. But you know, we I think we just

585
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 5: started to gain anybody respect because at that time when

586
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 5: we played Brooklyn in playoffs, that's when they had Joe Johnson,

587
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 5: Paul KG, Darren Williams, like they had a squad. We

588
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: took them to seven games. That was my first playoff

589
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: series and most of the team, like we were young.

590
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 5: So to take them to seven that lose by ship

591
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: at one point, you know, we that gave that gave

592
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 5: us a swagger we needed.

593
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: Years.

594
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: They was I ain't gonna lie. Was tough to play

595
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: bro y'all was y'all was cold, like man.

596
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 5: It was was so crazy because that next year that's

597
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 5: when them niggas was nice. I think we were we

598
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 5: were the only ones beating y'all. Y'all would beat us.

599
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: I remember getting to the playoffs. I remember because that

600
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 5: next year, I'll never forget them. Niggas was nice and

601
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: we all we I think we would beat them, Lisa

602
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 5: three out of four times. So I remember going to

603
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: the playoffs. We played the Wizards, and we was like,

604
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: we're gonna beat the Wizards. We want to play Atlanta

605
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: because we match up well with them, beat them, blah

606
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 5: blah blah. But we end up getting swept by the Wizards.

607
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: That's what y'alla. But yeah, we was like them niggas

608
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 5: was nice, but we knew we could beat them. Like

609
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: that's that was our mindset. Before we played the playoff game.

610
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: We was like, all right, we got the Wizards first,

611
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: lets line up so we could play Atlanta second round.

612
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: We get into the conference final.

613
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: I remember I had made a defense for y'all. I

614
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: was like, we're gonna trap him on everything we gonna make.

615
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: We knew Kyle can shoot, we knew Cay can score,

616
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: but we was like, t ross the rest of them,

617
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: they gonna have to fucking hoop. But we already knew

618
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: we was gonna beat whoever we was playing the first round,

619
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: don't even know who we played. We played Brooklyn and

620
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: we swept them, and we like, we're gonna play Toronto.

621
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: We I didn't think John was gonna beat them. Listen,

622
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 4: I didn't either. We got swept. We got crazy, bro,

623
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: we got ours beat.

624
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: That is crazy.

625
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: I didn't.

626
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 4: We marked Toronto on that game. We was like, we're

627
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: gonna play Toronto.

628
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: We did. We did the same ship.

629
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we had The thing that was fucked up

630
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: is that we knew if we played in Toronto, like

631
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: I knew, like we played in Toronto, they might get

632
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 4: us one of them games, because Toronto was tough to

633
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: play at that time. Like and the way I was,

634
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: my life was set up times. Toronto was one of

635
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: my favorite cities. That was number two at the Miami.

636
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: So I was like, I know, I ain't gonna be

637
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: ship one of them guys. But then this might become

638
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: Dinnis might play that game.

639
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: You might come to play.

640
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: But but then when they got swept with D C

641
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: wasn't my ship. I mean DC was cool, but it

642
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: was I can focus in DC a little bit. I

643
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: couldn't focus in Toronto games.

644
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of my weaker weaker cities.

646
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

647
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: It was so crazy as both y'all had popping teams

648
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: at the time. But the problem was there was this

649
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: person in the East, hard person to get around at

650
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: that time.

651
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: That yeah, Bro, I mean, I mean, I know J

652
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: T said it plenty of times. I said it plenty

653
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: of times, but yeah, that motherfucker was impossible to me.

654
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 5: That's just what it was like, you know what I mean,

655
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: Like it just it just you know ship it was.

656
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: It was no other way around it.

657
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: You don't think y'all could have had more peace and

658
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: could have gotta done.

659
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: Bro, No, you can do it.

660
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: I'm be honest. I'm being honest. Like, no, Bro, Bro

661
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: was just like at that time, like it's unbelievable. I

662
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: always I have arguments with people because it's like they

663
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: asked me what bron was the best, and it's like,

664
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: my that Miami bron in that second Cleveland bron Y.

665
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: That's my first time when he first went back to Cleveland,

666
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: that nigga was Bro.

667
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: It was it was bro. It was he controlled everything

668
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: from top to bottom. Man, Like it was when you

669
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: stepped on that floor, it was like it was it

670
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: was tough.

671
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: Bro. You gotta he wanted the Greats for a reason.

672
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: You know what. I Listen, man, I've never won a

673
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: playoff game against them.

674
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: We know.

675
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: I've been in fourth series with this man. I got

676
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: swept four times.

677
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

678
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I got a couple wins.

679
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: One time we was up thirty. I swear always up third.

680
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: That's played for the Pacers, the only way I played

681
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: for the player. We up thirty. Game three, I'm like,

682
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: I finally beat this dude.

683
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: Bro.

684
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: He walking in half. Tom said, we're good, We're good, Yard.

685
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: I keep their head up. They were down eight in

686
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: the third quarter. I looked at them.

687
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: Myself, it's.

688
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: Gonna beat us Spring. I'm doing everything about power. Look, Paul,

689
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: shoot the ball man, take us home.

690
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: I just want one win. I knew he wasn't gonna

691
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: beat him, but damn, I just want.

692
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: To Speaking about Lebron being tough, who's one of your

693
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: tough matchups one on one.

694
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: Outside of you, of course, outside of Bron, Like just

695
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 5: one on one h ooh he had that two yeah

696
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: kill bro.

697
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: D Wade. M hmm.

698
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: But I think somebody that was like, really really tough

699
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: that I like, I couldn't like like I had to

700
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: go head to head with was was Joe, Joe Johnson,

701
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: Daniel Johnson. Like I remember, my first Playoff series was

702
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: Verse Joe, and I got like every bit of io Joe,

703
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: especially at the time.

704
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm young, and you know, ship.

705
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: Part of the part of the way I play now

706
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: is because of Joe, of how how slow he played

707
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: and he was in his body getting to the buck

708
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: getting to a spot, getting to the bucket, you know

709
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: what I.

710
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: Mean, Like, damn, I'll see that now. Yeah, you feel

711
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: me like a lot of a lot of like a

712
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: lot of that ship.

713
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: How I play now I get from fucking Joe, all

714
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: that methodic driven getting to a spot, like bodying all that.

715
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: I got that ship from Joe because I never forget

716
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: my first Playoff game. I went home that it was

717
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: an early game. I went home that that evening and

718
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: I was I was in pain. It felt like I

719
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: got jumped by ten niggas, just like banging with them

720
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: the whole game, you know what I mean, Because that's

721
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: how physical he was.

722
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: And just getting to a spot. So Joe was always tough,

723
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: Like Joe, Joe definitely was tough for me.

724
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: Did you always have that mini in your game? Was

725
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: that always your go to the MIDI because you didn't

726
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: be the best mini to me? Six rip Himmelson.

727
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: You know my my.

728
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: Rookie year, Alex Alex English was my one of the

729
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: assistant coaches. People who don't know those jerseys. So this

730
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: a little like just a just just a little like

731
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: you know, fun fact like people don't know. I used

732
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 5: to always like sit and listen to Alex talk, and

733
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: you know, you look him up. He was top fifty

734
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: greatest of all time. And he used to show me

735
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: how he used to score at the elbow all the

736
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: time by just one dribble pull up, shooting over mother,

737
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: one dribble right, one dribble left, whatever it may be,

738
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: I'm shooting over these like And I was so amazed

739
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 5: by how simple he kept the game and was able

740
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: just to get buckets. And that always stuck with me.

741
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: And he was just always once you master this and

742
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 5: get great at these positions on the floor where no

743
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: matter what shot you shoot, knowing that nobody could block it,

744
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna become unstoppable. And that ship always stuck with me,

745
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 5: and I always paid attention to that, like, man, whatever

746
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: I do, I gotta make sure I get I gotta

747
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: get this anything within a three. I gotta get that

748
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: ship together. And that's how I looked at it.

749
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 4: And that ship is more than that ship is my bucket.

750
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: Every time every time you shoot that ship, bro, I'm like,

751
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: that's good. You started faking everything. He's still gonna hit

752
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: that ship is amazing, Brocause what's so amazing about it?

753
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: They tried to take that shot out the game and

754
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: like for you to still like master that shot like

755
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: it was a year.

756
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: Like it was a year where like they came to

757
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: me and said, you have to shoot more threes, like

758
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: you gotta do this and this, And it was like

759
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: I'm like why, Like I really like it was a

760
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: year when I was a straight dickhead when it came

761
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: to that, I'm like why, Like nobody can stop me

762
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 5: doing this?

763
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: Why do you want me to stop doing this? You

764
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Analytics? I hate it.

765
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: Like when when that analytics shit started coming in a game,

766
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: it used to make me so mad because not just

767
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: for myself, even early on in my career, I used

768
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: to look at it like, Yo, what you're telling people

769
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: that what you're telling these youngest that's coming up that

770
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: need to learn the fundamentals of the game. You know

771
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 5: what I mean, it's inside out, not outside in how

772
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 5: the game is played, like understand because yes, you feel

773
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: me Like yeah, So it's like it's like that's my

774
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 5: philosophy to where it's like, yo, it's bigger than just

775
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 5: me how I view the game, to where it's like

776
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: I want people to understand, like this is the art

777
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: of basketball. This is the art of what the game

778
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: was built on. Like everybody can't be a Steph Curry,

779
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: and that's fine. Steph is Steph for a reason. Everybody

780
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: can't be everybody can't, but everybody can master spots when

781
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: it comes to this game and build off that. Everybody's

782
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: not gonna be shooting thirty thirty five footers every every

783
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: time that you do it the best.

784
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Though, Bro averaging, Damn, they're a dub over dub all midies.

785
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Bro, you didn't don't have no three. Bro

786
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: when I played too bad. Let's take a track.

787
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: Let me.

788
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: Freak thump me.

789
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: Bro, don't shoot threes.

790
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: Don't shoot threes and cold though ship is unstoppable.

791
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Shoo three. I've seen him.

792
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Want to beat the Paters a couple of years ago

793
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: off of NICs Ass three.

794
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I'm saying he got it now.

795
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I never wanted to like abuse it, like

796
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: like I seen Jordan's say some Ship a long time ago.

797
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: It's like I never wanted to get comfortable with the

798
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 5: three because it takes my aggressiveness in the mid range

799
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 5: and get into the basket away, you know what I mean.

800
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 5: It's easy to fall a victim, especially with me, like

801
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 5: I try to be I try to practice perfection when

802
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 5: I go out there and play in a sense of

803
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna shoot bad shots, and I'm like

804
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 5: I have a goal in my head always shoot above

805
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: fifty percent no matter what, you know what I mean,

806
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: Like I never want to be forty percent shoot Like,

807
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 5: I really try to master my spot so when when

808
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: in game it becomes it becomes natural to me.

809
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: No, you you can tell that you like love your

810
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: craft though, Like I was the one I ain't gonna lie.

811
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: I played around with my craft. I had a good time.

812
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 4: Like ship, I'm a hoop. I just loop naturally. That's

813
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: what we do in Indiana. It wouldn't like, hey, go

814
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: to the gym. It's like ship. I just naturally can

815
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: hoop like I could tell like when I I even

816
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: like I watch you on YouTube with Dribble too much.

817
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: I watched that.

818
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I wish I would have Like I

819
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: ain't trained with nobody. I trained with my niggas trying

820
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: to rebound quick like you know, ain't read the.

821
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: First job you want the first stretch for it. I

822
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: was you get my own rebel down Georgia.

823
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: He's with George Hill in high school. Man, Georgia will

824
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: average thirty yeight he everage fat.

825
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: No let the SiGe for you. That was been like

826
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: this too. This is about the orn. It's still crazy, man.

827
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: But one of my favorite parts about your game is like,

828
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: obviously you go crazy in the league, but to see

829
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: you go back home and play in the drew every

830
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: summer and like really get to it, like y'all really

831
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: be battling that also congrassed by the wait you know

832
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But for whole fans, like like we

833
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: love basketball, to see you hoop in the summer, like

834
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: for y'all to really pull up there and really go crazy,

835
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: that ship is fire man.

836
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 5: You know it's crazy for me, Bro, It's like It's

837
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: a sentimental thing because you know, my dad used to

838
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: take me to Julie when I was like when I

839
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 5: was young, even before I started playing to where. I

840
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 5: just remember when day he picked me up. I mean

841
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 5: we left the house one day and he's like, man,

842
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 5: bring bring your basketball shit. He took me to Juliet

843
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: I was fourteen, fifteen years old, said go out there

844
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: and play grown ass men. I'm like, what I guess

845
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: my dad told everybody, all the growning don't take it

846
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: easy on me, go out there, give him the work.

847
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 5: And I had to compete, but it gave me a

848
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: mental edge when I go out there and play with them.

849
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 5: When I go play people my age, it's like fuck

850
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: that these these motherfuckers can't fuck with me. I'm playing

851
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: against grown men that they kids sitting on the sideline,

852
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was always something

853
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: that was like made me feel good because it gave

854
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: me like an internal confidence that I could do this.

855
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: Then it's in a hood too, like all the hood

856
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: motherfucker's coming out here and all the old heads and

857
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: they and they respecting you and taking you in. So

858
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 5: me getting in a position of being somebody that people

859
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: look up to like it's like mandatory for me to

860
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: do it, because it's like, you never know that one

861
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: kid that's sitting in here, I could be his hope,

862
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 5: just to want to make it out, you know what

863
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 5: I mean. It's motherfuckers in here who probably never even

864
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: been to the Stables Center, you know what I mean

865
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: being able to see a basketball game. They can come

866
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 5: out here for free and watch me play like it's

867
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: something I take serious too, you know what I mean.

868
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 5: I remember, I remember I brought one of my old teammates.

869
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 5: I think it was Jared Jay. I think I brought

870
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: him playing to Julieu one one time with me years ago.

871
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 5: In the middle of the game, I think we was

872
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: about to get in I'm about to get a fight

873
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 5: with somebody and all this. Jack leaned over and said,

874
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: why are you taking this ship so serious? And to me,

875
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: it's like, Yo, this ship is serious to me. You know,

876
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 5: it's like it's like my rep on the line for here,

877
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: Like I don't play around with this so like that's

878
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: why when you see me playing it, like I take

879
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 5: I take that ship.

880
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: That's that's why I ain't never play I take it.

881
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: It's heavy, like even even out of the day, like

882
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm hooping out of the day.

883
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, niggas on the other team talking shit,

884
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, I don't look at it

885
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: like nigga, you know who the fuck I am? Like, yeah,

886
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: talk your ship, but I'm I'm gonna show you why

887
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: I come here all the time, you know for sure.

888
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Man, It's crazy because like y'all don't have some moments

889
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: in there, but one I don't think get spoken enough.

890
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: I think it was maybe last year before that, bro,

891
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: you and Brian Yeah on the NBA ad.

892
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: Bro.

893
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all watched the Kobe We all watched. But

894
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: to see that happen in the progression of the drill

895
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: for y'all had that moment, that's hard. It inspires people outside,

896
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: like everybody looked at like we can't wait to see that.

897
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that it was crazy, Like even shout out

898
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: to Bron doing that. You know, he definitely a real

899
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: one for that because you know, he hit me like

900
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 5: it was the middle of the night, probably like it

901
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: was like a week before I had I had played

902
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: in and Brian had hit me. Was like, man, what's

903
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: up when you're playing and Drew again, I'm like next week,

904
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: I'm like fucking come fuck me, like come fuck with me.

905
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: So all right, man, I'm gonna come fuck with you.

906
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking like he probably forget that, he got busy.

907
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: It was like a night before that. The following week,

908
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: it's like we're time to get blah blah blah. Alright,

909
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: bet I'm pulling up and I think I had tweeted

910
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: like Debo and like the Crown or whatever. Pulled up

911
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: and just to see how like electrified the city was. Bro,

912
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 5: just to see like little like my thing. I'm big

913
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 5: on looking in the crowd and seeing like kids reaction,

914
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, seeing those like like like

915
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: like they've just seen a ghost. Like to me, that's

916
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: the ship that makes it feel like, Yo, this ship

917
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: is always bigger than basketball because these these kids carrying

918
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: this shit like forever, you know what I mean, Like

919
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 5: they're gonna remember this moment. And for Bro to do that, man,

920
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: that shit was like that shit was amazing, you know

921
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: what I mean, especially like, you know, shit twenty years

922
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: in years, four years, how big is to come out

923
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 5: there in the in the hood and who and the

924
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: game was cracking too, Like it was like they took

925
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 5: us down to the wire like they was out there

926
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: talking shit all that. So, man, that shit was a

927
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 5: probably you know, my second favorite fame favorite mote moment

928
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: outside of when Cole play Cob always gonna be my

929
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: number one whenever.

930
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: But what when Brian did that ship man? That ship

931
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: that was some real ship man.

932
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this then, because I remember I

933
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: said that I said something out of pocket about Cold,

934
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: because I said what I say.

935
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: James, Remember said James Harden was better.

936
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: I said, James Harden scored a little better than Cold

937
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 2: was out of pocket.

938
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 5: No, like James Harden scored that most. I've told somebody

939
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: this multiple times. The run James had, it's crazy. Come on, bro,

940
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 5: The run James had was fucking like that ain't even

941
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 5: a video game.

942
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: Was crazy.

943
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: That ship was like some fucking like space jam. Yeah.

944
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: I mean, because like if you didn't watch the game,

945
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 5: you just knew when you checked the box score it

946
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: was gonna be something fucking crazy.

947
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: Forty forty forty five.

948
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: Fifteen to sist ten rebounds Like that run he had, Bro,

949
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 5: that ship was fucking incredible, and how he did it.

950
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: The ship looked like it was with no effort.

951
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying.

952
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, So I got what you

953
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: was coming from from. From from that standpoint, I think

954
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: people react people's people is just so sensitive when it

955
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 5: comes to like certain people, certain ship. You really just

956
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: sit and think. Bro, that run James had BRO was

957
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: the most incredible ship like we we I ever seen.

958
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: Like it was crazy.

959
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: He would just literally come down court by by by

960
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: three five step three by by by hes he it

961
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: was it was fire like come on like it was incredible.

962
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: And don't forget Nigga was winning fifty games in the West,

963
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: in the West, and that's crazy who he was going against.

964
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Bro.

965
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: He had to go against that prime warrior situation and

966
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: he was still going crazy.

967
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: Going Bro, that's the only thing I said. But I

968
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: got killed for that. But I think Kobe is phenomenal.

969
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 4: Like it's nothing like I know to love you and

970
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 4: respect you for coch but I just at that moment,

971
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, what I had to play against James Bro

972
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: that but that that ship was different.

973
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, that's the thing.

974
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 5: Like it just like listen, you said, Kobe is my

975
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 5: goat all that everything, but it's like it's real, is real?

976
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: The ship James was doing. I don't think we ever

977
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: see that. All you want, we.

978
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: They try to they try to erase it with with Luca.

979
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Obviously we know Luca, he liked it. But I'm like, nah, bro,

980
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: James had to do that against teams in the West

981
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: one it was I mean.

982
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: Them teams in the Rockets weren't that great. It was

983
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: a lot of James, Harden and everybody else just kind

984
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: of saying the corners of these series that man was on.

985
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: When I see when I seen somebody reguards to him

986
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: and stand behind him.

987
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: Stand behind gas, behind their back, I said, I don't

988
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: know what the is going on right here?

989
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: This is bad basketball.

990
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: But he that special where you can't even't know what

991
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, like you gotta go. I don't. I'm

992
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: trying something totally different. I'm just staying behind you. That's crazy.

993
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: Speaking on COVID, did you pull some of your feetwork

994
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: from him?

995
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely got a lot of that came through

996
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: through conversations with him of just breaking down like he

997
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 5: was a big soccer fan, so he used to always,

998
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: you know, incorporate how soccer players move, how to use

999
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: their footwork to get leverage, quickness, and he always used

1000
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 5: to tell me to watch you know, certain players like

1001
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: you know, I came obviously the way he moved, but

1002
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: also like the smaller guards, like like a fucking like

1003
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: Andre Miller for example, you know what I mean, legend

1004
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: not the fastest, not can't jump the highest then that,

1005
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: but he knew how to maneuver in small places to

1006
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: be able to get a shot off or get to

1007
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 5: the bucket and everything.

1008
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: So I used to I used to start.

1009
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: I started paying attention to like a lot of of

1010
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 5: the D and them players in a sense that you know,

1011
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: probably don't have the big notoriety as everybody else, you

1012
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And took a lot of stuff

1013
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: from him. Another person who helped me with my fullwork

1014
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: shit was like Sam could sell you know what I mean.

1015
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 5: When I was fifteen, like used to be around Sam,

1016
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: and Sam always used to preach to me about certain

1017
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: ways how to shoot the turn around, how to get

1018
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: your feet leverage a certain type of way, you know

1019
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: what I mean. Learn from him, and learn from fucking

1020
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 5: Catino Mowgli how to get your shots, you know what

1021
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 5: I mean. It's certain players that I took so much from,

1022
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: like incorporated. But Cole wasn't one to put the like

1023
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 5: the the notion in it too. You know you master this,

1024
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: Like basically, he always used to tell me, learn how

1025
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 5: to play in a phone booth.

1026
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1027
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 5: If you could be if you know how to master

1028
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: how to create shots from a phone booth, you're good,

1029
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So he used to talk

1030
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: a lot of fucking codes. He used to take some

1031
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 5: time to figure out. But when I figure it out

1032
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 5: and the light bulb off, I know I had something.

1033
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't just spoken enough. How good your footwork is?

1034
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Bro?

1035
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: So I had to ask.

1036
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: And that's the fire part. When you hear players like

1037
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you and your caliber speaking like you. When you hear

1038
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: people like yeah, it's cool to but like now, but

1039
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: you always speak on the players like okay, everybody may

1040
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: not speak on his name, but like I learned something

1041
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: from this player that's pivotal to my game.

1042
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: That's like Tony Parker. His footwork was crazy. It's crazy,

1043
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: but it's like my hole on and off the court.

1044
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: No, no, it's just just on the court. On the court,

1045
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: shout to TP.

1046
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: I learned from all the motherfuckers, man, Like I really

1047
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 5: became like a student of the game and just watch

1048
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 5: motherfuckers rather if it was a slow motherfucker fast mouth

1049
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: quick and just try to take take ship from him

1050
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 5: from him and try to incorporate it, you know, into

1051
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 5: my game.

1052
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: You one of the best scores, like you, like we're

1053
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: talking about phone booth scores, like you mellow on those guys, Kobe,

1054
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: Like y'all can get y'all shot off at any point,

1055
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 4: Like I always say that, Like that's why I said

1056
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: when we was gonna play, gonna send doubles. But it

1057
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: was like, it don't matter where you at on the floor.

1058
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: I know you can get a shot off, like that's

1059
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 4: you know, but you it's never a shot clock violation.

1060
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: Like with me, I used to get shot ced like you.

1061
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, he ain't getting no shot clock violets. You

1062
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: know how to get a shot off, That's that's like

1063
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 4: tough to do. That's what I think about you, James.

1064
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: Same thing with Melo cole kd y'all le scores. Like

1065
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: when I hear people talking about one of the least

1066
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: scores in the league, your name should be talking about

1067
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: a lot more.

1068
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: I appreciate that because you know it's definitely one thing,

1069
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 5: like you know that you know, they get overlooked for

1070
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 5: whatever reason, you know what I mean. I heard somebody

1071
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 5: on the podcast say some ship I wouldn't to score

1072
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: and all this, and it's just like, you know, it's like,

1073
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 5: come on, how many points you up? It's only probably

1074
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 5: I think thirty people in the history basketball got more

1075
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: points than me.

1076
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: So it's like, come on, balance me, like you know

1077
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1078
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, it's it's one of those

1079
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: things like when it comes to it, like you just

1080
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 5: check the facts on.

1081
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean, when it comes to that,

1082
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: and that's crazy thing to say about you. Yeah, I

1083
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: put that up. That's why I'm he's buckets around, you

1084
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: know what it is. That's the crazy ship to say

1085
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: about Broun. It's like, Broun don't really score, bro, he

1086
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: got the most buckets ever. How you're gonna say the

1087
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: nigga not to score. He got the most buckets ever.

1088
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: Bro.

1089
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: People just say that just it's just show me how

1090
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: stupid they are, you know what I mean, Like, come on, man,

1091
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: you get buckets, bro, that's you got buckets your whole career.

1092
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: Though it ain't like it's just ain't like you always

1093
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: that's the ship that throws me off, like y'all like

1094
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: like it's something new, like you always got buckets. Like

1095
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 4: it's kind of funny when I because when I heard

1096
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: somebody said on the podcast, I was like, huh, like

1097
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 4: come on if you would to say, yo, he don't

1098
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: pass like you don't get assists like that.

1099
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, when you're gonna look at the status, it's like,

1100
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: how bro, you know how people play in this league?

1101
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: And he so he topped in the league like.

1102
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: Like it didn't even want like I couldn't even like

1103
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: comment on it.

1104
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: I just thought it was like it was beyond funny

1105
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: to me, Like it's just like I guess anybody with

1106
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: a microphone can say whatever whatever they want to these day.

1107
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: That was crazy your bucket.

1108
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: I gotta ask, how was that transition going from Toronto

1109
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: to San Antonio?

1110
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Man, it was.

1111
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: Tough because obviously everybody know like I wanted to be there.

1112
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted to stay there everything you know, ship,

1113
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 5: you know, that was that was home. So you know,

1114
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: getting traded the way with down, you know, that part

1115
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 5: hurt more than anything. Then you know, when I finally

1116
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: calmed down and realized, like, shit, I'm going to San Antonio.

1117
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 5: Damn what they say about City Born blah blah blah.

1118
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I'm playing for Pop. It's her like

1119
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: fucking coach Pop, Like you know what I mean? And

1120
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: what's crazy? When I got traded, I didn't talk to

1121
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 5: nobody for like fucking two weeks. I wouldn't answer my phone.

1122
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: I was mad as shit, like I'm I was. I

1123
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: was in my feelings. I was like, man, I was,

1124
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: I was. I was hurt and I ain't gonna lie.

1125
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 5: But Pop had called me out the blue and just

1126
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 5: was like, look, we didn't trade you.

1127
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: We traded for you.

1128
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 5: Like and when I let let that sink in, I'm like, god, damn,

1129
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: he got a fucking point like all right, Like and

1130
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: just to like be underneath Pop, to hear like the

1131
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 5: game from him, the way he just took me in

1132
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 5: and accepted me more than just a basketball player, like

1133
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 5: to help with the transition, Like I like, I cherished

1134
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: that shit forever, man, because it was something I needed

1135
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: in my career at the time, because I'm looking you know,

1136
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the game one way my whole time,

1137
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 5: and you know, my nine years in Toronto, I'm thinking, just,

1138
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 5: you know, just go out there, shoot the ball thirty times,

1139
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 5: try to get a win.

1140
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: If I don't, if I don't, if I shoot bad,

1141
00:51:59,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: at least I try.

1142
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 5: With Pop, it was more so like how can you

1143
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 5: make everybody else around you better and with that make

1144
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: it easier on myself. So Pop always used to tell me,

1145
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 5: give me three and a half quarters of playing this way,

1146
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: the rest is you. And with that it made the

1147
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 5: game more fun because now I'm getting everybody involved, making

1148
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 5: it easier doing this. But when it was time to win,

1149
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 5: it was like, go win the game, you know what

1150
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: I mean. And it gave me a different outlook on

1151
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: just how to incorporate use the game, use your teammates,

1152
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 5: get everybody involved, and find the rhythm of the game

1153
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: that way. Like my first my first shoot around with Pop,

1154
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 5: I remember he said, man, tomorrow, you the point guard.

1155
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: I ain't never played point guard day in my career,

1156
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 5: and it's like he telling me I'm the point guard.

1157
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 5: But I think that whole week, I think I averaged

1158
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 5: like like damn near thirteen fourteen assists, you know what

1159
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 5: I mean.

1160
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: But he'd do shit like that to challenge you to

1161
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: show you that you can do it, you know what

1162
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, and that that was something definitely needed for sure.

1163
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: You heard a lot of good reviews from players about

1164
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: coach Propert. Then it's so dope to see now like

1165
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: he got wimby. Yes, like we know he's gonna be

1166
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: for sure anyway, but he got popped. Like he's the

1167
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: next superstar for sure.

1168
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 5: For sure, he definitely gonna learn. I mean, you see

1169
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: it now, even just how he was playing the Olympics,

1170
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: like the way he played in the championship game, you

1171
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like he's still a kid, bro,

1172
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 5: But I guarantee you he was on the phone with

1173
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: Pop that night this you know what I mean, Pop

1174
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 5: giving him some type of you know, inside and knowledge

1175
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: on how to carry that. Now, watch how he beat

1176
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 5: this year.

1177
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: It's about to get spooky. And he got feet on there.

1178
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah spoky, bros. Yeah, this shit looked like a video game. Nah, bro,

1179
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: Like I've never like we played them this year. I

1180
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: swear I had a drive to the lane. He I'm

1181
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: on one side of the key, he on the other side.

1182
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: I stopped for the layup and pulled it back out.

1183
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: He was on the other side of the key. He

1184
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: wasn't even like but I just knew he had the

1185
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: recovery length to be able to fucking block whatever I

1186
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: throw up. Crazy, I'm talking about you. You just looking

1187
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: in an eye, Bro, you gonna know like he he

1188
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: gonna be one of.

1189
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: The ones for sure. Oh yeah, we never seen nothing

1190
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: like him? No, hell no like KD.

1191
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: What I seen KD I was I've never seen nothing

1192
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: like seven can do all that stuff. He four or

1193
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 4: five inches tall and KD.

1194
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: What a handle.

1195
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1196
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Obviously you are student in the game. Who are some

1197
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: of the young players in the league that you know

1198
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Take a notice or take a liking too.

1199
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a question because I think you know,

1200
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: like how young are you talking? Like? Whatever?

1201
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 5: Whoever, let's do John, Okay, Like those guys, I think

1202
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna carry this lead to you know where it

1203
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: needs to be. You know what I mean when you

1204
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: look at the job the Lucas, it's all those guys

1205
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 5: they like beyond special man, Like you know, I'd be glad.

1206
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 5: I'd be glad when you know John get back healthy,

1207
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 5: he get back on the floor, because you know, the

1208
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 5: game is that much more exciting when those when those

1209
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 5: players are healthy, you know what I mean, Like, you know,

1210
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: I hate that he wasn't out there to do, you know,

1211
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: to be a part of you know, all this, Like

1212
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 5: it's it's amazing to see just being a fan of

1213
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: like all these guys that come in to lead that

1214
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: you know, you see him as kids one year and

1215
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 5: the next year fucking you know, they hold swag change

1216
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: you see, you know what I mean, They carrying their.

1217
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: Their own aura.

1218
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: So you know, my favorite players is obviously like John

1219
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 5: Luca fucking you know, I don't know if JT is

1220
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 5: Jason still a fucking and.

1221
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorites.

1222
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 5: And from Compton Listen, I don't know him personally like that,

1223
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: but the times I didn't play it. I remember I

1224
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 5: played against ant this year and like the dog he

1225
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 5: got in him. I remember jump ball, He's still right

1226
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 5: next to me. He he guarded me. I'm like, yo,

1227
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: Like he take on all these fucking challenges and I

1228
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 5: respect that from a young and like that, you know

1229
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like like you see the dog in

1230
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 5: him and obviously you see it with the Olympic team and.

1231
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 2: What he gonna be come next season. Is like that ship.

1232
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 5: I know what playing in the Olympics do for a

1233
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: player like that, shit takes you to a whole another

1234
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: level mentally, physically, emotionally, like you feel like you that

1235
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 5: especially being around them those other eleven guys. So like

1236
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 5: those like definitely and one of my favorites. So I

1237
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: think those guys gonna carry the league to where it

1238
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 5: needs to be for sure.

1239
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you know a

1240
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: new situation is summer Congress on that as well. Appreciate

1241
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: you're playing with another young dog as well. I don't

1242
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: know if it's too young the Fox.

1243
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason, you know,

1244
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: even making making that decision the Fox. In my career.

1245
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: Man, they do that fast listen, fastest ship, fastest ship.

1246
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Like he put me on the bench.

1247
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: Man. See, that's the first time I said, you know,

1248
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: I think I want to come off the bench.

1249
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: Man.

1250
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: They want to come against man. I was like, yeah,

1251
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: I think we'll come off the bench. I was like, yeah, Minnesota,

1252
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: I think you could probably start Jones.

1253
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: Nah, yeah, I think that situation, you know, I came.

1254
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 5: It came out of nowhere after you know, season was over,

1255
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: when free agency hit. You know, I know it was

1256
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 5: a bunch of other options, but you know, when I

1257
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 5: just sat back and like realized, like, you know, what

1258
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: the team needed, what they had, what they was fighting for,

1259
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: and how bad they want to win, you know, it

1260
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: just fit the mold that you know, I want to

1261
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 5: be a part of. And you know, just being able

1262
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 5: to play with those guys, you know, I'm looking forward

1263
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 5: to it. You know, a monk, sir, hurry. You know,

1264
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: it's it's a lot of it's a lot of those

1265
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: guys that that that's special, you know, and and I

1266
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: really want to be a part of that. I feel like,

1267
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 5: you know I could, I definitely can help. When did

1268
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 5: your game start transitioning? Because to me, I could be wrong,

1269
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 5: but I feel like when you first came to the league,

1270
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: he was a high flyer.

1271
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, and then you turned it. I'm not

1272
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: saying you dumbed your game down, but you brought to

1273
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: like ship, I'm gonna shoot these minies and when what

1274
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: you're that like, I'm abo to stop dunking on niggas

1275
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: because I'm trying to I ain't trying to be like

1276
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: Jeff T and these be all fucked up wanted to

1277
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 3: keep going years and years.

1278
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What's what's crazy? Twenty thirteen?

1279
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: No shame he trying to dunk on everybody. Jeff had

1280
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: hots my life like motherfucker, you.

1281
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. But he didn't want to stop.

1282
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: He didn't know he was a jabblwalking through his whole career.

1283
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: What's up?

1284
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 5: What's crazy? That's a great question. Twenty thirteen. I had

1285
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 5: tored my growing I like off the bone. It was

1286
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 5: like six six, seven games in the season. I just

1287
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 5: trying to turn the corner with the ball slipped toward

1288
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 5: my whole groun, and like I was so worried because

1289
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, we're finally getting good. I think the

1290
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 5: year before I had made All Star. So I'm like, man,

1291
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: funk I'm trying to do. I didn't want to be

1292
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: a one time All Star type of nigga, you know,

1293
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 5: like like.

1294
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 6: To tell your story. I know niggas gonne share the shark,

1295
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 6: tell your side of the story.

1296
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 5: This is about the ad.

1297
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Y'all.

1298
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: Come on, man, tell your story.

1299
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Bro.

1300
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: I'm bad, jam bad, Bro, my bad. I ain't I

1301
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 5: didn't even think about it, bro.

1302
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: Listen. That was funny, that's good. I didn't want to

1303
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: be a one time All Star.

1304
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: At the time, I was so thirsty, like I was

1305
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 5: so mad at getting hurt to where it was like

1306
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: six seven game in the season. So when I tore

1307
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: my growing, I'm thinking they talked about surgery and all

1308
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 5: this shit. So I'm like, man, hell no, I ain't

1309
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 5: trying to miss the season all this shit, so I'm

1310
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 5: doing it whatever I possibly can to see how fast

1311
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 5: I could get back. So I ended up doing like

1312
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: the PRP shit, you know, rehab. I think I missed

1313
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 5: twenty two games. So I kind of rushed myself back,

1314
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 5: thinking like, fuck it, I can still make All Star.

1315
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 5: We still was winning, let me, let me get back

1316
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 5: out here and started killing. So when I started back playing,

1317
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't right for that next probably like two years.

1318
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: Nobody knew.

1319
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: I never said nothing, so that made me scared to

1320
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 5: jump run fast, and that's when I started paying attention

1321
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 5: to theygas like fucking Joe Johnson, fucking I remember. I

1322
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: remember during that time, I sat there and watched those

1323
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 5: two years of Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards. I said, oh,

1324
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 5: I swear to god, I watched Jordans every game Jordan

1325
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: played in a Wizard jersey.

1326
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this.

1327
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: They said both his knees was fucked up, he couldn't move,

1328
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. So I'm I'm watching him from the

1329
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 5: standpoint of like, how is he doing? What he doing?

1330
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 5: He's still averaging twenty plus, still getting forty, but he

1331
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 5: not yoused. He not athletic no more. He not the

1332
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 5: old Jordan. So I watched so much in him. So

1333
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 5: when I came back and started playing, I try to

1334
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: play more that way to where I started to kind

1335
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 5: of like master playing that way. And by the time

1336
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 5: I got more healthy, my athletic ability and all that

1337
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 5: was in case of emergency.

1338
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: So he's listening. He was watching niggas jump off the

1339
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: rope and w w he watching the real field.

1340
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: I want to enjoy my life. I like wrestling and ship.

1341
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: He watching m J. I don't thought m J was

1342
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: done looking at.

1343
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 7: Different I'm done. I'm looking like Jordan. He looking at

1344
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 7: the footwork.

1345
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: Crazy now.

1346
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 4: But I wanted to talk about because I always want

1347
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: I'm bro. I'm a fan bro for real. So I

1348
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: watched everybody talk so highly of you, like Kobe White,

1349
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: no younger Dayling Terry talk about how the leader you

1350
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: was in Chicago, and it's like damn to hear him

1351
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 4: speak about you like that, Like, bro, Tuck is under

1352
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: his wing. He talks the ropes and didn't see like

1353
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: Kobe White, you know, had an up and down for

1354
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 4: and then you get there and all sudden you see

1355
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: him start growing and becoming basically to me, he's gonna

1356
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: be one another star.

1357
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: I see, I see him being an All Star. This

1358
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: shit no question for me.

1359
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

1360
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 5: It got to a point to when I start realizing,

1361
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 5: like you know, I'm I'm getting older, especially when motherfucker

1362
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 5: started calling me old head.

1363
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: Damn shit, you know what I mean.

1364
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 5: That's why I started like I was dodging that ship

1365
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: for for a long time, like niggas calling me o

1366
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 5: g oh yeah, like until like I just finally like

1367
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 5: accepted it in a sense to where it's like, y'all,

1368
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 5: I really fuck with these young dudes, bro, because it's

1369
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 5: like I really won't. I really want to see everybody

1370
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 5: be successful and win, you know what I mean, Like

1371
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 5: think about it, bro, Like sometimes I have moments where

1372
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 5: I just sit up here and be like I'm from compting.

1373
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 5: I damned there made three hundred million dollars from playing basketball, damn,

1374
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 5: you know what I.

1375
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: Mean, Like like they're like that ship. Let me.

1376
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 5: It's like it's like when I have those moments and

1377
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 5: think about it, it's like, how how much of everything

1378
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: I learned, the fails, the success, and everything that I

1379
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: could give to these young guys that probably don't know it,

1380
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, the good the bad on

1381
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 5: and off the court. And I really I really put

1382
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: my all into all my teammates that I play with,

1383
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: all these young dudes, because you know, I remember being

1384
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 5: so blind when I was young, not knowing you know shit,

1385
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 5: I remember I was a motherfucker going to the hotel room,

1386
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 5: order fucking chicken tenders and wings and call it a

1387
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 5: night to where it's like evens even now, it's like

1388
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: I take all these young dudes to go eat at

1389
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 5: these restaurants so they can see and understand something different.

1390
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 5: It ain't just hotel food that you can eat, you

1391
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like I try to like expose

1392
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 5: them to so much more that the world have to offer.

1393
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 5: Don't just be stuck in this one place. And you know,

1394
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: once you free up a motherfucking mind to that aspect.

1395
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 5: It helps them with the confidence to help them with

1396
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 5: the preparation. Especially with me, It's like all these all

1397
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 5: these young niggas everybody I play with, see me after

1398
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: a game if we on the road, first thing I do,

1399
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 5: I get on the phone with my kids.

1400
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking to my kids, hearing about my kids. They

1401
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: doing this. I'm showing them the responsibilities.

1402
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 5: I still take take care of it on a daily

1403
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 5: base and still be the first one on the bus,

1404
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 5: still be the first one in the meeting, first one

1405
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 5: in the gym, doing all this. And it's like any

1406
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: any logical person who sees that will understand, like, damn,

1407
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: that's that's thinking about it. Bro, I'm going to six

1408
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 5: year sixteens crazy like still doing it to this level. Like,

1409
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 5: you gotta be consistent. So I try to give the

1410
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: game to all these youngins as best as I can. Bro,

1411
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: You not every single day.

1412
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: You're doing a hell of a job.

1413
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

1414
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: To see I'm just what I'm watching them as players grow,

1415
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 4: and it's like, and they giving you that credit, It's like, damn,

1416
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: BRO figured it out. But then to see your game though,

1417
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 4: like to see you when we first in the league

1418
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: to where you are now, You're like, yeah, he put

1419
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 4: in the work and that time, and like you said,

1420
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: three hundred million, they pay off, Bro, that work and

1421
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 4: to see I know what you're gonna do in Sack

1422
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: with that same group, with them young guys who they

1423
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: got a great team, You're gonna do the same thing.

1424
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: I see him having another great year and making some

1425
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: noise in the West, for sure.

1426
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy more years in the league, Bro, like for sixteen,

1427
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: but we can see you playing another five six years

1428
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: level Like, that's the dope part about it and everything

1429
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: that we learned. I think the best part that we

1430
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: get to meet people and you see the difference of

1431
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: people who pouring too that team. That's the points it

1432
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: showing people more this outside of that. Those are the

1433
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: ones you see that get the respect they get to

1434
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: their careers and others kind of more sage. It's like,

1435
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: all right, the kind of fall by the wayside. So

1436
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: it all makes sense, man, it all makes sense for me.

1437
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 5: Like, Bro, I always told myself, like, fuck the media,

1438
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 5: fuck with people p and a gotta say after games

1439
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 5: and all this. I always took the heart like if

1440
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 5: my my peers respect me, all that matters. You feel

1441
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 5: me like that's the only thing that matters as long

1442
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: as I could walk in the gym and motherfuckers know, like, man,

1443
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 5: like I fuck with d R D. Man, he gonna

1444
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 5: compete or you gotta bring it like that's that's what

1445
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 5: matters to me the most.

1446
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: You got that for sure.

1447
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: Off basketball a little bit, man, I want to ask

1448
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: you about Kendrick Ryan Man, what you're thinking about the

1449
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: he came back, He put the city back, I mean

1450
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: the head man.

1451
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: I know, Drake your guy, but yeah, but I think

1452
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, even not my guy.

1453
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 5: But I think for me being on the inside, it's

1454
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 5: never like it's not a surprise for me, right, I mean,

1455
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 5: like it's it's like like I see Bro or talk

1456
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 5: to Bro, like it's it's a normal thing, you know.

1457
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 5: So it's like when you know a person and it's

1458
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 5: like he he probably somewhere sitting in the room with

1459
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 5: sage lit right now, not knowing what the fuck is

1460
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 5: going on on the outside world of things, you know

1461
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: what I mean, because he just he in tune or

1462
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 5: whatever it is.

1463
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: He like he living his life, you know what I mean.

1464
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 5: So like as a fan, you know, you you hype

1465
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 5: to see it, But from my standpoint, you know, like, no, bro,

1466
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 5: that's that's that's bro. So it's like when you see him,

1467
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 5: it's kind of like you know, you see j T

1468
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: go who in a Big Three, and it's like you're

1469
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 5: really not surprised, you know he yeah, you know what

1470
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: I like. So it's really not a surprise if you

1471
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 5: go see him fucking going out there killing motherfucker's in

1472
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: the Big Three, it's like.

1473
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: Did you know he was gonna be a star or

1474
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: had a feeling before, because of course you heard he

1475
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: always was like different in ahead of his time and

1476
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: and kind of like was a visionary with how he

1477
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: approached and looked looked at things, you know what I mean,

1478
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: And he always had that and a lot of times

1479
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: I think as as just like a man.

1480
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 5: You see the growth and the failures that he he

1481
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 5: took and had to accept and grow from, not just

1482
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 5: fuck it just being about the rap part of it,

1483
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 5: you know personally, you know, and you see the growth

1484
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 5: in an individual, and you know, like we all know

1485
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 5: he nice when it comes to you know, rapping, but

1486
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 5: you know you've seen the growth from it, and you

1487
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 5: know he put it in his art, you know what

1488
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 5: I mean. I know a lot of people you know,

1489
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: want to hear more from him all that, but to him,

1490
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, he put his life, he put

1491
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 5: his life out there for us to understand, and sometimes

1492
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 5: niggas got to go through ship to be able to put,

1493
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 5: you know, our life out there and speak about some ship.

1494
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 5: So to me, it's just like, you know, it's cool

1495
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 5: to see him out there, but it's more so like

1496
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 5: cool just to see him, you know, and.

1497
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: And in the in the hill space mentally, you know

1498
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1499
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 3: Is that first album Top five.

1500
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: The first one one?

1501
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good, but that even that, it's like that's

1502
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 5: such a storyline of you know what I mean, you

1503
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 5: inside like so you do, but it's like that album.

1504
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: Like the breakdown of it, it's like you walk Street.

1505
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 5: So it's like like vision and ship like when I

1506
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 5: hear it, like I know exactly, like it's certain ship

1507
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 5: he even say where it's like I may get it

1508
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 5: more than everybody else, you know what I mean.

1509
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: But it's like it's definitely in my definitely my tip five.

1510
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: What was that like though at that concert, Like yeah,

1511
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: like you all y'all on stage, y'all on the whole

1512
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: cality together.

1513
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it was one of those things. I know,

1514
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 5: people get so caught up and looking at the whole

1515
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 5: beef part of it and everything.

1516
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: It's bigger than that though.

1517
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 5: It's so much bigger than that, because like it's a

1518
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 5: lot of those dudes I know had problems with another dude,

1519
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 5: this hood, didn't get along with this hood, or or

1520
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 5: it was it was some type of tension or friction,

1521
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 5: or you haven't seen these sets of people around, this

1522
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 5: set of people in X amount of time, and for

1523
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 5: it to be a moment to be able to share

1524
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 5: be shared in LA in the forum, to bring out

1525
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 5: all of artists from like you know, from home, to

1526
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 5: do that with no problem, no issues. Everybody get in

1527
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 5: there with no arguments, no fights, no scuffles lead there,

1528
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 5: everybody get home. It was like it was just a

1529
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 5: different type of fucking like appreciation for one another, you

1530
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I know it's so easy to

1531
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 5: get caught up in the whole beef part of it

1532
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 5: and all that, but for us, it's just like it's

1533
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 5: bigger than that, you know what I mean.

1534
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: Music, if music could bring us together, it.

1535
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 5: Just show you how powerful we are as people that

1536
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 5: if we just put all the fucking egos and all

1537
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 5: that sensitive ship to the side, like we really could

1538
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 5: come together and do something special, you know what I mean?

1539
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 2: That was a moment too man like not even.

1540
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: To do that.

1541
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: Brow lights get niggas that can go crazy in the

1542
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: city like there to Toronto, bro, but that ain't speak even.

1543
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 5: That, Like just how great the I know it's so

1544
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: easy when people get caught up in the size and

1545
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 5: all that.

1546
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't think Drake.

1547
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 5: Still the phasing ship that Drake then did over what

1548
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 5: the last fifteen years, nothing nothing could ever take.

1549
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: That away, you see what?

1550
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 5: Like I know, like I said, it's always easy when

1551
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 5: I look at it from be honest with you, I

1552
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 5: look at all this ship like I really come from,

1553
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 5: like the hood I come from, like niggas losing their

1554
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 5: life over some dumb shit over dice games, Like I

1555
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 5: didn't have an uncle get killed by that was a

1556
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 5: blood that got killed by a crypt. Another uncle that

1557
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 5: was a crypt that got killed by blood and like it,

1558
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 5: and it fucked up my whole like childhood upbringing to

1559
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 5: where it's like y'all letting songs divide and create and

1560
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 5: make people so sensitive to where it's like to me

1561
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 5: it's like, come on, man, like we it's like watching

1562
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 5: a fucking action packed movie.

1563
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Nobody really, you know what I mean.

1564
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 3: To me, I hated how it started because they're just

1565
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: two totally different artists. To me, I didn't I get Drake,

1566
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: and really it's just Kendrick, like you said, it really

1567
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: comes from kind of more respected.

1568
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like, I think you can't just never

1569
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: discredit like Drake. Drake. Drake is like Drake. You was

1570
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: in the city when Drake.

1571
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I see, yeah, I've seen from from the

1572
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 5: beginning to to so where is it the star?

1573
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, Like, I don't think it will ever be

1574
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: another Drake. That's just that's just what it is, you know.

1575
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 3: And ain't nobody ever fought against that many people bro.

1576
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: Drake him, Kendrick him.

1577
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 5: To the end of the day, it just comes down

1578
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 5: to being that, like both of them the big dogs

1579
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 5: at what they do, and why about that being respected?

1580
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: Everybody got spared one day. But that's list.

1581
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 5: Hey, in my neighborhood, the two toughest niggas have to

1582
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 5: get down. One gotta lose. That don't make them less

1583
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 5: than the other one, you know what I mean, It's

1584
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 5: just be more respected because ain't nobody else gonna get

1585
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 5: down with one of these one of them niggas.

1586
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: That's just so. That's that's my view.

1587
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 5: Everybody who don't come from the streets or understand the

1588
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 5: street part of it may not look at it like that.

1589
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 5: It may getting their feelings or be sensitive about certain ship.

1590
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 5: For me, I look at all this ship, like bro,

1591
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 5: ain't nobody hurt this ship?

1592
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: Is this?

1593
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: This is it was good watching fucking the matrix. See

1594
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: I told you about Lebron and Brownie. This is the matrix.

1595
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: Man, let's get up before Now that's hard. I think

1596
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: it's dope and ship right.

1597
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: What you think about like seeing bron I got the

1598
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 4: upmost respectful bron but be able to see his son

1599
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 4: in the league with them play on the same team that.

1600
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: You know how the league work. Yeah, it's gonna be

1601
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: a moment where Bronni and Broun in the game, but

1602
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: the same time he's starting. I ain't say he's starting,

1603
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be a moment.

1604
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 4: I told everybody it's gonna be a highlight or little

1605
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 4: bron You're gonna throw brown alive and the ships gonna

1606
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: go crazy.

1607
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: That's gonna be everywhere. You know it's gonna happen though,

1608
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: right for sure, that's.

1609
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 5: What I'm hoping. I'm watching a game with me too.

1610
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna recorded.

1611
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be against the Kings, but

1612
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely a moment like come on, bro, like damn

1613
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: with everybody.

1614
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 5: None of us never seen no ship like that, so

1615
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 5: for to be an opportunity for that to happen. Ship,

1616
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 5: if I had a son, I want like if my son,

1617
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 5: if my son, now, if my my son two years old,

1618
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 5: so you cook, But if I had my son was

1619
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 5: in that position, I will I will want the same thing.

1620
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: For sure. They do nothing.

1621
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 3: I gotta start having kids at fourteen that we ain't

1622
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: pushing that.

1623
01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: But if you're trying to leave, what a good circle, man.

1624
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: We're about to get the fuck up out of here. Man,

1625
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: biged out. We appreciate you sliding on this man, best

1626
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 1: of luck this season. Were definitely gonna be watching the Kings.

1627
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: Be here. Tell the people that can grasp and march at.

1628
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 3: Shop Club five twenty dot com. Baby, were out of here.

1629
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: Thanks, you know what it is. Club five twenty The

1630
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: volume