1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition, Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: as we hit Thanksgiving week. I know many of you 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: may be traveling this week. You may be out and 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: about all over the country, and we are certainly thankful 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: that you are choosing to spend your time with us. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Kids are out in the Travis household. Buck. If you 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: hear screaming and yelling in the background, it may well 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: be video games. It might be the World Cup which 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: is underway. There are any number of things which the 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Travis boys could be cart wheeling about the house discussing 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: what we are going to discuss, many different things. Lauren 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Bobert is going to join us at one thirty. She 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: has been reelected in Colorado despite the fact that MSNBC 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: said she should go on only fans. I bet that 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Lauren Bobert will be pretty entertaining in the second hour 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: with us. But Buck, let's start here. Two years ago, 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: you will remember Donald Trump sat down for an interview 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: with Leslie Stall of sixty minutes, and during the course 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: of that interview, Trump asked her why sixty minutes and 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: CBS were not actually covering the Hunter Biden and Joe 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Biden laptop scandal, and Leslie Stall said, oh, well, we 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: can't verify it, and maybe at some point we will 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: play that audio for those of you, again who cannot 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: remember that moment. But this morning, Buck, you can imagine 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: my surprise when I woke up and after two years, 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: CBS News finally wants all of its audience to know 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: a little while after the mid terms, two years after 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden entered into the White House. Oh yeah, it 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: wasn't disinformation, it wasn't a rush and plot. The Hunter 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Biden laptop, it's real. Just listen to this audio. And 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: then I've got so many thoughts about this, Buck, and 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: I know you do too. For those of you who 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: did not hear it, and I certainly understand if you 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: weren't watching CBS this morning, it's important that they are 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: just now telling their audience, Oh yeah, this laptop, it's real. 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: As Republicans take control of the House, Hunter Biden, the 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: President's sign will be a target for investigations, and that 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: means data from a laptop reported to belong to Biden 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: could be crucial to the investigatory process. CBS News has 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: obtained its data not through a third party or political operative, 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: but directly from the source who told us they provided 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: it to the FBI under subpoena, and we commissioned an 45 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: independent forensic review to determine its authenticity. Senior investigative corresponding 46 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: Katherine Harris joins us now with what we found, Good morning, Tony. 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: The laptop data we had analyzed showed no evidence it 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: was faked or tampered with independent forensic review. Clay, Well, 49 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: that's just the gold standard, right there. I mean, after 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: two years, if every person with even the most basic 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: brain power available to them understanding that this is real, 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm so glad they brought in some random guy or 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: gal or whomever to tell us we already know so now, 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: but this is interesting. There are different theories here. Well, 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: first of why do I want to tell you why 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I think CBS is doing this. Why do you think 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: CBS is doing this at this stage? I think because 58 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: and I am fascinated by this story on so many 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: levels in terms of the timing and why they're doing it. 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Two years later, I think they know that the evidence 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: is going to come out. This is why winning the 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: House was consequential. I think they know that when the 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: investigation starts inside the House of Representing Representatives surrounding the laptop, 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: that the evidence is going to be so overwhelming that 65 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be virtually impossible to argue that the 66 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop isn't real. And so I think they're 67 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: getting ahead of the investigation and the fact that they're 68 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: going to have to cover it so they can say, well, 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: we're not following what the House of Representatives investigation is 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: telling us. We did our own independent verification and we 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: told you it was real, right, So I think that 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: that's I would largely just co sign to that. I 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: was wondering if you were going to say, which is 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: why I pushed it to you there. Well, because step okay, 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: believe this, Yeah, that that they're going to indict Hunter Biden. 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: And so this is a process where the media has 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: to start to has to start to get the So 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: is that where you because I still think that's the 79 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: next thing, because I think that's that's what they're going 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: to say publicly. But I think the next step is 81 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: they are going to indict Hunter Biden, and uh, and 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: on top of that, Buck I know I said I 83 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: that I believe that I I signed on to co 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: signed on to your argument that Hunter Biden's going to 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: be the nominee in twenty twenty four. I also think though, 86 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: that there is a certain amount of you know, the 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: proverbial long knives coming out for Biden, and I wonder 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: how much this lack of protection for him may be 89 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: geared towards him not being able. So there's a whole 90 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: other that's a big step. So there's a big Okay, 91 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: I still think they're not going to charge him, or 92 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: if they do charge Hunter Biden, it will be essentially 93 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: a way to let him out, you know, let him 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: off super easy basically. And this goes back to our 95 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: lugs ending bet. Now you've got a month clay whether 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: or not he will face If he doesn't face prison, 97 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: they're letting him off with it. It's a joke. It's 98 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: a slap on the risk given what he did, just 99 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: the scale of the tax fraud implications here. If you 100 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: don't declare to everyone out in our audience, they already 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: know this. First of all, if you're making millions of dollars, congratulations, 102 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: but not if you're getting it from you know, Chinese 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: backed Communist party payoffs for your debt. But if you 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: if you make millions of dollars and you don't declare it, 105 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to prison. Right when they find that 106 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you haven't declared the million, You're not gonna get a like, hey, 107 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: don't do that again. So that's one part of it, 108 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: I think for CBS, and maybe this is a more 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: minor component of this, but they meet the people that 110 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: still watch CBS News. Funnily enough, I was an intern 111 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: there when I was eighteen years old and had no 112 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: interest in media at the time, but I just kind 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: of happened to find myself in the CBS eating newsroom. 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: The people that still watch CBS they want to believe Clay, 115 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: that it's the gold standard. And so this allows them, 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: if they believe CBS up to this point, to say, well, 117 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: look they've gotta you know, an independent forensic analyst now. 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: So because that's because they're so honest. That's why they're 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: so honest. And I know that's silly to us, but 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: if you were a true believer in the journalistic integrity 121 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: of an organization like CBS, it gives you at least 122 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: a plausible deniability of the stupidity of pretending the laptop 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: wasn't real. Right, You're not dumb. You just needed to 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: wait for the independent forensic analysis on your Biden point, though, 125 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why you think that. This is where 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why you think that there's some anti 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Biden sense growing in the Democrat Party. I want you 128 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: to expand on this for me and everybody a little bit, 129 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: because you see the poll over the weekend, seventy one 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: percent of Democrats believe that Joe Biden would be reelected. Now, 131 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: they may not want him to be the guy, but 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: if almost three quarters of them think he wins, there's 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: no way he's not running and I don't wheel him out. 134 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: And they don't care what's going on. I mean, they'll 135 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: put aviators on them all day twenty four to seven. 136 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: They don't care. Well, here's my analogy, and I do 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: think it's a good one. Trump and Biden are right now, 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: two heavyweight fighters in the twelfth round of their fight, 139 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: and the only reason both of them are not on 140 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the mat is because the other one is there and 141 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: they're kind of holding each other up. Anybody who's watched boxing, 142 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: especially heavyweight boxing, when the big men basically punched themselves 143 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: out and they're done and it's late in the fight, 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: they oftentimes just end up grappling with each other and 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of leaning on one another. That's where I think 146 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Biden and Trump are right now, and increasingly the only 147 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: reason to run Joe Biden is because Democrats believe that 148 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump will be the nominee for Republicans, and they think, 149 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: and they may well be right, that they can wheel 150 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: out Biden and he will beat Trump. I'm starting to 151 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: think that Democrats are becoming aware that Trump is not 152 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: a set in stone candidate for Republicans. You know, they 153 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: had the big event and I believe Las Vegas over 154 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: the weekend with all the different contenders that were out 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: there speaking to that. I think it was the Jewish Coalition, 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: and that's not the official name, but it was a 157 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: powerful Republican Jewish organization was having its its event and 158 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: everybody showed up there to speak. I think Trump is 159 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: going to face a bevy of challengers, and I think 160 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Democrats are having second thoughts because just play this out. 161 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Imagine that say Ron De Santis is the Republican nominee 162 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and he's going against Joe Biden. I think Ron De 163 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Santis would obliterate Joe Biden. I think we could be 164 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: talking about as close to a landslide election, oh man, 165 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: as we have seen. I wish I could. I wish 166 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: I could see it that way after this, After this election, 167 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: I think, I think we gotta do a lot of 168 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: retrenching and rethinking about who people are willing to vote 169 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: for Clay in some of these states, how powerful the 170 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: Democrat machinery isn't so I think you and I can 171 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: agree that whether it's RHN De Santis or Trump or 172 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: anyone else, it's gonna come down to two or three 173 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: percentage points in the electorate I think seven. So you 174 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: think that he that that that whole paradigm is swept 175 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: away if it's the Santists. I just feel like that. 176 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I think the generational thing is so massive for independent voters. 177 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: I saw a stat over the weekend buck Wall Street 178 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: Journal eighty six percent of Americans think that you shouldn't 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: be able to run for president if you're over seventy 180 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: five years old, eighty six percent. And so I think 181 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: that generationally, if you had RHNDA Santists or Glenn young can, 182 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: by the way, going up against Biden, I think that 183 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Democrats would get absolutely obliterated, and I think as soon 184 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: as Trump were out of the picture, they would kick 185 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: Biden to the curve faster than they could at all. 186 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: That's like I want to agree, I want to believe you, 187 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: or rather I want to agree with you, because obviously 188 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about the future here. I just think we 189 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: got to keep the Federman rule in mind here, my friend, 190 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I think I think the election the same way that 191 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: it's very different issue. But but what the Democrats did 192 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: to Brett Kavanaugh was a political lesson in per destruction 193 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: that everybody of fair mind in the country should always remember. 194 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they told the most heinous and demonstrably absurd 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: lies about a guy, and they were gleeful and Kamala 196 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: did it right. That was like a seminal moment. That 197 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: was a sea change. I think in a lot of 198 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: people thinking about right about who the Democrat Party really 199 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: is and what they're willing to do to hold power 200 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court, how it's important to them. I 201 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: think the Feederman election needs to be thought of as 202 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: a as a changing moment in the mindset of the 203 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: American electorate, or at least the Pennsylvania electorate, and therefore, 204 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: what's possible in other states, which is under the right 205 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: circumstances of get out the vote, universal mail in ballot, 206 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Democrat propaganda, and the media, it's, you know, go down 207 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: the list. They can elect literally anybody who is alive. 208 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: That's it. And I've been thinking about the Fetterman thing 209 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: a lot, and I wonder how much of it was 210 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: a perfect storm of Republican ineptitude. But let me just 211 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: say this about Fetterman versus Biden, whether we believe it 212 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: or not, Fetterman is not so old that he couldn't 213 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: recover from his stroke and be better right now. I 214 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not a medical expert. I don't know 215 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: what the prognosis is for John Fetterman in three years. 216 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: But they tried to dangle out the idea he's recovering 217 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: from a stroke, he could get back to normalcy. There's 218 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: people out there listening to us right now that have 219 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: recovered from strokes and probably feel like they're close back 220 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: to normal. Joe Biden is not ever going to get better. 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: He can only get worse. Right So, I don't know 222 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: that if you're gonna make that argument. I don't know 223 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: that Democrats made it well. But at least with Fetterman, 224 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: there is that possibility of hey, in two years, he 225 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: could be back to what he was. I don't know 226 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: that I buy it. I'm not a doctor, but at 227 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: least that is possible in two years. Joe Biden is 228 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: not suddenly going to be fifty five again. He's going 229 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: to be worse than he is now. And he's bad now, right. 230 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't think a great satan and I think up 231 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: this is the problem is that it doesn't Joe Biden. 232 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: You always say ron Klain is like the de facto 233 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: president by the White House, so you get a ron 234 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: Clain presidency. Biden's you know, hand will shake a little 235 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: bit as he signs whatever he's told to sign, He'll 236 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: say whatever's in the prompter. If he stumbles, they say, 237 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: don't be mean. You know, you've actually reached a point 238 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: now with with the Feederment election. They manage to do 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: what they have done in other contexts, which is is 240 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: run in a political race somebody who's a victim, and 241 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: therefore if you criticize them, you're a bad person. But 242 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: they usually don't do that for office. They usually do 243 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: that with surrogates, right, they did it with the so 244 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: called um you know, the jury. I think they're called 245 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: the Jersey Girls or the Jersey Wives, which were four 246 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: or five women who lost husbands in nine to eleven 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: who were just cutting campaign commercials for John Kerry and 248 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: we just straight up don't elect Bush. Elect John Kerry. 249 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Were the nine eleven widows. I'm sorry, that's what they're 250 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: called the nine eleven widow There were thousands of nine 251 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: eleven widows, right, I mean the notion that these women, 252 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: but they were victims, so you couldn't criticize them. Now 253 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: we have victim candidates. Now you could say there's been 254 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: some of those in the past, but I mean victim 255 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: as in their ability to physically and mentally do a 256 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: job candidates. And I think Democrats are fine with it 257 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: as long as long as their party ultimate. It's just 258 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: about the scoreboard for them, wherever the votes lie and 259 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: whatever ideology gets to be pushed. So, well, let's come 260 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: back to this, because we haven't even talked about Trump yet. 261 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: I was at Marlago on Friday. Yeah, it was an 262 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: interesting event because he had to address the fact that 263 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: there are. We haven't even mentioned this yet on the show. 264 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: I talked about it a little bit Fridays it broke. 265 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: There are now two additional special counsel overseen criminal investigations 266 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump and Clay Did you see there's another 267 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: criminal investigation that they are rebooting today of Donald Trump. 268 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: We will talk about this because this is the apparatus, 269 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: this is the machinery at work. We'll get into it 270 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: in just a moment. Stay with us, everybody. If yourself 271 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: served is with Verizon AT and T your team Mobile, 272 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: you're paying too much. 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We 292 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: talked about how CBS authenticated with their super serious expert 293 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop that everybody who is possessed of 294 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: a higher IQ than a toaster of it already knew 295 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: was real. But CBS there a lot, a lot of questions, 296 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: a lot of questions over at CBS about the laptop. 297 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: And let's recall that, in the most condescending we are 298 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: the serious journalists here, sir, tone possible. Leslie Stall of 299 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: CBS sat down with then President Trump talking to him 300 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: about this, and she basically wanted him to know, sir, sorry, 301 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: you can't have that silly Hunter Biden laptop being real, 302 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: not on my watch, not allowed. Here's what she said. 303 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: It's the biggest scandal out there, Leslie. I think it's 304 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen, 305 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: and you don't cover it. You want to talk about 306 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: because it can't be verified. I want to talk about 307 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: insignificant things. I'm telling you of course they can be verified. 308 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: Excuse me, they found the laptop, Leslie. What can't be 309 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: the laptop? Why you said that even the family hasn't 310 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: the family on the laptop. He's gone into hiding for 311 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: five days. He's gone into hiding. He's just clay. The 312 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: basic premise here is I guess nothing can ever be 313 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: really verified. Are you really sitting there? Am I really 314 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: sitting here? The verification two years later, buck ended up 315 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: being they gave it to a random computer dude in 316 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Minneapolis and he said, yeah, it's real now it took 317 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: two years. Are you really telling me that sixty minutes, 318 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: which probably has the most investigative resources of any journalistic entity, 319 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: almost certainly on television in the country, couldn't have done 320 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: that in October of twenty twenty, that that was impossible, 321 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: Like Leslie Stall said, to verify it. Give me a break. 322 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: Total PS. But I'm glad Trump was right again. Mike 323 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Glendell and team My Pillow have come through for this 324 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: audience time after time with incredible offers at great value 325 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: and right now Giza dream Sheets. This is what we 326 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: sleep on in the Travis household. 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And connected to all 343 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: of that is that there's now a special counsel investigating 344 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: the president surrounding January sixth, and Mara Lago, New York, 345 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: as you teased a few minutes ago, is now reopening 346 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: a criminal investigation into payments made to Stormy Daniels. According 347 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: to The New York Times, they truly are convinced that 348 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: Trump is the great Satan, and the continuing fallout of 349 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: these cases will be taking place over frankly, the next 350 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: couple of years, I really do believe. But before we 351 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: get into analyzing special council, what that could tell us 352 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: and more. You were at Mara Lago over the weekend, 353 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: the President was there. What was the vibe like in general? 354 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody was in good spirits. You're at a 355 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: black tie event at one of the great UH mansions built. 356 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I think it was one of the nineteen nineteen twenties. 357 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the last sort of great mansions 358 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: of that erratory built in the US. It's an amazing property. 359 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I was there with Carrie, so we enjoyed seeing everybody 360 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: who was there. A lot of former Trump administration, you know, 361 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow was there and UH and um, Kelly Ann Conway. 362 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: You know the Lake I saw too, right, Carrie Lake 363 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: was there, she told me, And I said, because we're 364 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's off the record. There were so it's 365 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: a social event. It wasn't. Well it's for the America 366 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: Freight Institute, but we're there for a social event. But 367 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, I said, can I mention this on airy everybody? 368 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: She says that the fight continues. She says, does anyone 369 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: really think it's okay? I just she sort of put 370 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: it to me this way that in the places where 371 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: on election Day I was supposed to meaning Carrie Lake 372 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to do the strongest, the election machines are 373 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: shutting down all over the place and people have to 374 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: wait four hours in line to vote. Of course, mail 375 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: in balloting is going to crush same day voting if 376 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: you shut down same day voting in some of the 377 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: most crowded precincts, right, I mean that, I will say, 378 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: she makes a good point on that. Right, They were 379 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: just supposed to accept that. Somehow the woman overseeing the election, 380 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: who is her opponent in the election, just goes whoopsie 381 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: ran out of printer and toner cartridges or whatever. In 382 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: Arizona in some key areas where the red turnout was 383 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: expected to be strongest. Yeah, that's an issue, folks. I 384 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: mean that's a problem. It is a little bit now unfortunately, 385 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: like well, you know, if the refs called the game 386 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: one way, even if they were paid off, it's very 387 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: hard to get them to switch it around. But I 388 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: do think, Clay, that there needs to be much more, 389 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: much more of a look at not just we've been 390 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: saying the systems need to change, but how what was 391 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: done in these systems that made it this way. So 392 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot, a lot that still has 393 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: to be enough anyway to the Trump issue. There was 394 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: also the announcement I was on air, you were off 395 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: on front. Were you hanging with the fam? I forgot 396 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: what you I knew. I was just traveling for the 397 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: Patriot Awards to get back in advance. I was in 398 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: electing to know over the weekend, met a lot of 399 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: our listeners. I'm gonna be at the Michigan Ohio State 400 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: game over this weekend. I've been on the road for 401 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: like fifteen straight weeks. What happened to my beloved volls? 402 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I feel like the defense did not come through as 403 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: I would have liked them to congratulations to our listeners 404 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: in South Carolina. I was incredibly destroyed on Saturday night, 405 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: as was the Tennessee defense, with a playoff birth to 406 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: be grabbed. Biggest loss in twenty years. Uh, this is 407 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what keeps me humble. My team 408 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: is just getting the crap kicked out of them. So 409 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: now I've got to I've got to rebuild, got to rebuild. Buck. 410 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: It was a tough one. It'll be all right, man, 411 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: We're here for you. So so, but on Friday, so 412 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: while you while you're traveling, the news breaks of these 413 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: two audit So there's one special council who is overseeing it, 414 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: but it's really two separate criminal probes, one into January 415 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: six and the other into the documents at Mara Lago. 416 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: So now we really have I just want every going 417 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: to keep track of this because it is hard. You 418 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: really need to start thinking spreadsheet for Trump de arrangement 419 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: syndrome lawfare, which is what they're doing here, the usage 420 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: of the law in political warfare. And and you have 421 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: so you had the Russia collusion, which was obviously and 422 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: really Russia collusion was based into the Muller probe had subheadings, right, 423 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: it was the Russia collusion component and then the obstruction component, 424 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: which they were also trying to prove totally separate from 425 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: the actual did Russia collude, which obviously that was crazy. 426 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Now you have these two, you also 427 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: have Alvin Bragg in New York, the district attorney there, 428 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: the woke, progressive, lunatic district attorney who still has his 429 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: job because Kathy Hulkel is still the governor of New York. Unfortunately, 430 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Lee Zeldon almost pulled it off but didn't. Clay. You 431 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: have that investigation about Stormy Daniels. You had Letitia James, 432 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: the Attorney General of the State of New York, bringing 433 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: a civil investigation around inflation of assets. What else? There's 434 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: some others I think that I haven't even what are 435 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: I can't think of all the Trump and oh the Trump. 436 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: There's a Georgia investigation going on from the Georgia like 437 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: Da Atlanta Air. I can't even keep up over what 438 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: exactly was said it happened there. There are I mean, 439 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: there's like five or six different investigations going on simultaneous. 440 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: And and the woman who wrote the book and said 441 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: that Trump's actually assaulted her decades, you know, like thirty 442 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: years ago in the department store she I saw. She's 443 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, coming back now she's trying to do a 444 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: personal suit against Trump over that. Basically, the goal of 445 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats seems to be to just sue and investigate 446 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: Trump into submission. And I have to say, this is 447 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: one thing that will not work, because even people started 448 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: to get a lot of people call with me a 449 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: mar Lag. I'll tell you they're like, you know, starting 450 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: to feel like I have a little bit of a 451 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: concern here about how this campaign would play out whatever. 452 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: But then they announced the special counsels and I'm just 453 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: back in the bunker with Trump. Man. Can't allow this 454 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: to go as a tool for the left without pushback. 455 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a big sense, there's a 456 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: big sense among a lot of people that it's almost 457 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: they make it bigger than Trump by being such lunatics 458 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: with how they're trying to destroy Trump, like they want 459 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: him to run, but they also have to prosecute him. 460 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: They can't let them run fairly. They want him. He's 461 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: their great satan. The only thing holding the Democrat Party 462 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: together is Trump. There was a stat I was reading 463 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend. It was in the New York Times 464 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: or Wall Street Journal, I don't remember which one, that 465 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent of voters said they went to go 466 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: cast a vote against Joe Biden because they thought, hey, 467 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: he's doing such a bad job. Buck. Thirty six percent 468 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: of people went to go cast a vote against Donald Trump. 469 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: He's not in office, right, So Democrats have managed to 470 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: connect Trump to midterms that are occurring when he's out 471 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: of office and motivate their base to go vote based 472 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: on that. So they both simultaneously need him and want 473 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: him to run. And I think that's some of the 474 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: essence of what's going on with these charges. Now we 475 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: come back in this next segment, I'll tell you what 476 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I thought about the special counsel announcement, because it's actually 477 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: something if you listen to the show. I don't know 478 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: if somebody going to the archives. I said there should 479 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: have been a special counsel appointed the minute that they 480 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: began this investigation, and I didn't hear hardly anybody arguing 481 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: for that. But the minute that the Marilago investigation began, 482 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know, this can't be run by Merrick Garland. 483 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: But what does it mean that he's decided now to 484 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: do it? If you if you brought and so you're 485 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: talking about special counsels against Trump, because the reality is, 486 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: if you were trying to create in like a lab 487 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: the perfect case study of when you would need a 488 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: special counsel to be appointed, it would be the son 489 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: of a sitting president who's getting millions of dollars from 490 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: foreign adversaries states, who's under federal investigation for a variety 491 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: of crimes. That is, if you were yiding the basis 492 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: for the special Council council to even exist, it would 493 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: be Hunter Biden. And notice we don't. There's no Hunter 494 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Biden special Council, which is, by the way, if there was, 495 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I would start to think maybe maybe they do have 496 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: some plans for a Hunter. The reason they don't is 497 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: because ultimately Merrick Garland gets to steer this thing and 498 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: make sure that the sitting president of the Democrat Party's 499 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: son is in no real criminal jeopardy. This is how 500 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: they play the game. Meanwhile, you know, we have people 501 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: on our side, and then righting where are principles? You know, 502 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: we get like Lose Cheney lecturing us about all this 503 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: stuff while they're trying to just it is, to your point, 504 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: impossible to justify a special counsel for Trump and not 505 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: also have a special council for Hunter Biden. It's impossible 506 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: to justify. But here we are. So you know, I 507 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be out today because I was gonna 508 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: go shooting with my brothers and a couple of friends 509 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: who are former Seals. Their elite warriors are going to 510 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: be training us all day. And then it flooded. 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Sanity in an Insane World Clay 537 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton show if the Department of Justice 538 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: can show that these were indeed very sensitive documents, which 539 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: I think they probably were, and also showed that the 540 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: President consciously was involved in misleading the Department, deceiving the government, 541 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: and playing games after he had received the subpoena for 542 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: the documents. Those are serious charges I personally think that 543 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: they probably have the basis for legitimately inditing the pressure. 544 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm speculating, but given what's gone on, 545 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: I think they probably have the evidence that would check 546 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: the box. They have the case. Do you think they will? 547 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: I think it's becoming increasingly more likely, increasingly more likely 548 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: that they will indict the the only Republican officially running 549 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty four nomination. I remember we did 550 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: tell you this, We call this one right that the 551 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: the presidential election basically starts the day after the mid 552 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: term here because of all the dynamics. There's no h 553 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: into regnum, there's no you know, time, the no honeymoon 554 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: period or whatever you want to call it. It goes 555 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: right into it. And the announcement of these really dual 556 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: Special Council investigations into the into former President Trump shows 557 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: exactly where this is heading. For one thing, Clay, it 558 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: means that we're going to have an ongoing What I 559 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: said about the machinery of the Democrats, I think that's 560 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: absolutely true CNN, these chips, they're gonna start ramping it 561 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: up more and more. You're gonna have just the drip, drip, 562 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: updates of anti Trump daily propaganda from these investigations, right, 563 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: and even if it's not leaks from the investigations, it'll 564 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: just be speculation from home. The speculation here, a speculation 565 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: there about where this is all going. If they indict Trump, 566 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's two years, so there's probably yeah, they 567 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: could delay. But if you're Trump, how do you play that? Right? 568 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: What do you do? Obviously you rally people to your banner, 569 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: but I think you want the trial to proceed before. 570 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: You probably wanted to go more quickly. You don't want 571 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: to hang over your head. I don't know. This is 572 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: uncharted territory. Man. This is wild stuff we're looking at, 573 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: and it looks likely. It's it's wild. But this is 574 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: one where I would say, buck, I think Trump getting 575 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: indicted helps him, and I think Democrats know that Trump 576 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: getting indicted helps him with Republicans but hurts him with independence. 577 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: So this is one where I actually think they are 578 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: being smart and strategic. And I know sometimes we give 579 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: too much credit to Democrats and sometimes they're just incompetent. 580 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: The way I see this playing out is in their mind. 581 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: The thing you need to understand is Democrats want Donald 582 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: Trump to be the nominee in twenty twenty four. Okay, 583 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: I understand there's some of you out there that are 584 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: saying they're doing this because they don't want him to 585 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: be no no, no, no no, no Democrats. If they could 586 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: hand select the Republican nominee right now, they would pick 587 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And I think what they know is when 588 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: they indict him, it strengthens him with the Republican base 589 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: because you and me and a lot of our listeners 590 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: out there buck are going to be outraged by the 591 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: very idea that the sitting president Joe Biden, is dieting 592 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: his political rival effectively, and they're doing it under the 593 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: cloak and dagger of the Special Counsel. So I don't 594 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: think that they would be willing. Actually, I can't say 595 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: what they're willing to do and not willing to do, 596 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: because I'm not of the left, and I think that 597 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: they're I think that there is a very high correlation 598 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: between delusion, mental illness and being a far left wing Democrat. 599 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: I really, I really do believe that. I'm not just 600 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: saying that, So I can't tell you exactly what they're 601 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: willing to do. I don't think they believe that this 602 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: ends with Donald Trump actually spending time in a minimum 603 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: security federal prison somewhere. I don't think they believe that 604 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: there are there's some of their left wing generally crazy people, 605 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean the ones calling the shot 606 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: the rational. Yes, I mean the ones that are in 607 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: power and that you know, the ones that are involved 608 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: in this White House, etc. Yeah, of course there's crazy 609 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: people all over the place commenting on online about this. 610 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: But I think it's much more likely that they would 611 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: if they bring this indictment, which seems like a better 612 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: than I've been told by two former attorney generals personally 613 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: but without attribution, in effect, that they think that they 614 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: are going to indict Donald Trump. Yeah, so let's call 615 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: it better than fifty fifty. If they indict him, the 616 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: trial is happening now. The trial is not going to 617 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: be some huge sensational thing. By the way, the problem 618 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: with bringing the documents part of the trail. Let's say 619 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: it's the Marlago thing, the January sixth thing. I think 620 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: they probably can't make that stick, but maybe they think 621 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: they can if it is the mar Lago documents. I 622 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: know a bit about this because I had a top 623 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: secret clearance and I know how these things work. You're 624 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: never gonna find if they're never gonna stand up in 625 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: court and be like, see the nuclear codes written on 626 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: toilet paper next to the photo of Kim Jong un Like, 627 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen because you're exposing that they've become 628 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: a part of the court record, and they say, oh, well, 629 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: we'll just have it secretively. Oh, you're gonna prosecute based 630 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: on secret evidence the former presidents of the United States. 631 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly. I think you though, you might 632 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: get into a phase where even if you get an indictment, 633 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: say on obstruction, which wouldn't require the documents, and it's 634 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: raly be public, that wouldn't be a central Let's say 635 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: they get Trump on criminal structure of justice, which they've 636 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: wanted Clay as you know, since the Mueller probe, Joe 637 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: Biden's in a position he will not pardon Trump, of course, 638 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: but he may commute. He may commute it, right, and 639 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: so then you have the indicted and convicted and commuted 640 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: former president running against Joe Budden. Does anyone think this 641 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: is too crazy? Because I think it's I'm not saying 642 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I think it could happen. Here's 643 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: the big thing I think that takes away. If you 644 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: strengthen Trump with your bass and get him the Republican nomination, 645 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: it would simultaneously crush him to have been indicted with 646 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: independent voters, and it would hand Democrats the White House. 647 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: So I think their play. I think there's a little 648 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: bit of four dimensional chess going on here is indict Trump, 649 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: which strengthens him with the bass, makes him the nominee, 650 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: but weakens his chances to actually win in twenty twenty 651 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: four because independent voters, as we saw, are not breaking 652 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: for Trump. They bought into this great Satan argument. But Clay, 653 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: you're leaving out here the big X factor, which is 654 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: if Hogan, the governor of Maryland, decides to run, oh man, 655 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: everything changes up the base. The base is gonna flock 656 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: to that guy. They'd be like, Oh, we don't need Trump. 657 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: You got Hogan. Yeah, Larry Hogan, it's gonna it's gonna 658 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: be a great thing to have. Is he the governor 659 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: to even get that? Yeah, he is the governor. Yeah, 660 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: former governor Maryland is yea in buck Sexton on the 661 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: front lines of truth,