WEBVTT - Research Revealed at Think 2019

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland. I'm the executive producer of this here podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I worked with how Stuff Works and my Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and love all things tech. And yes, I'm once

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<v Speaker 1>again recording from my hotel room in San Francisco to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what I've seen and learned at the IBM

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<v Speaker 1>Think two thousand nineteen conference. Thanks again to IBM for

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<v Speaker 1>bringing me out here to really dive into all the

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff going on. And this is my particular point

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<v Speaker 1>of view of what I saw. I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 1>this particular topic. If you listened to the episodes I

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<v Speaker 1>recorded last year at IBM Think two thousand and eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in Las Vegas, Nevada, you heard my two

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<v Speaker 1>part series about the five and five presentation, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a session in which IBM researchers presents some of the

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<v Speaker 1>cool things they're working on and the results of some

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<v Speaker 1>high tech bleeding edge research. This year, IBM changed things

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit by focusing the presentation on one

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<v Speaker 1>broad topic, and it's one of my favorites. Food. I

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<v Speaker 1>love food, particularly if there's hot sauce involved, but the

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<v Speaker 1>IBM research was a bit more ambitious than finding the

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<v Speaker 1>right condiment to make my burrito zing. Rather, the presentations

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<v Speaker 1>I saw brought the audience on a journey for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire ecosystem of our food, from growing it to distributing it,

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<v Speaker 1>to figuring out what to do with plastic waste that's

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<v Speaker 1>generated afterward. The subject is a really important one, so

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<v Speaker 1>when you combine the threats of climate change with the

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<v Speaker 1>growing population, you quickly come to the conclusion that feeding

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<v Speaker 1>the planet is just going to get more challenging than

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<v Speaker 1>it already is, and that managing resources and making food

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<v Speaker 1>available will be absolutely critical. Each presenter focused on a

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<v Speaker 1>particular topic, which led pretty smoothly into the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to give you a rundown on what

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<v Speaker 1>those presentations were and the related technologies. First up was

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<v Speaker 1>Juliet Mutahi, a software engineer from Nairobi, Kenya. Her main

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<v Speaker 1>focus was on the food chain, the food supply chain.

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<v Speaker 1>She personalized her story by telling the audience of her

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<v Speaker 1>background as the daughter of a coffee farmer in Kenya.

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<v Speaker 1>Her father's coffee farm is part of a cooperative or

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<v Speaker 1>a co op, and that's an association of business owners

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<v Speaker 1>who worked together for the common benefit of the members.

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<v Speaker 1>They can coordinate to negotiate the best prices for their products,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and make sure that no one is failing

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<v Speaker 1>to get his or her fair share. And co ops

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<v Speaker 1>help establish best practices like fair pricing and labor and

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<v Speaker 1>they can negotiate long term contracts with buyers on a

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<v Speaker 1>level that an individual farm owner might not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to manage. In Kenya, there are twelve thousand members who

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<v Speaker 1>are part of these co ops and they contribute more

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<v Speaker 1>and half of Kenya's coffee production. Cooperatives work because their

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<v Speaker 1>members share information across the value chain. They do it

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<v Speaker 1>through spoken word. If one farm produces high quality coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>the cooperative would negotiate to get a fitting price, a

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<v Speaker 1>premium price for that coffee. So how can we use

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<v Speaker 1>technology to sort of achieve the same sort of things

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<v Speaker 1>that have been going on in cooperatives. Well, technology is

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<v Speaker 1>allowing for the next evolution of this model, and like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every digital solution you can think of, it

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<v Speaker 1>all revolves around data. How can farmers collect more information

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<v Speaker 1>about their land, their soil and make reliable predictions of

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<v Speaker 1>future harvests? To better anticipate contract negotiations or better manage

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<v Speaker 1>their farms. She spoke of an approach in which a

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<v Speaker 1>farmer would use a tractor with embedded sensors in it

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<v Speaker 1>to till the land. The tractor would be doing its

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<v Speaker 1>normal tractory duties while simultaneously creating a digital map of

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<v Speaker 1>the farmland itself, so that now there's a digital representation

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<v Speaker 1>of the farm. Feeding the information to IBM S Watson

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<v Speaker 1>for Agriculture Platform would allow for meaningful use of that data.

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<v Speaker 1>Watson can take that information and combine it with other

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<v Speaker 1>sources to make predictions about future yields and give farmers

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<v Speaker 1>ideas about the conditions of their land. It can also

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<v Speaker 1>analyze the data to estimate what past yields might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might wonder, why would you ever need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what has already happened. Why would you need to

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<v Speaker 1>estimate a past yield? It becomes really important in cases

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<v Speaker 1>where a farmer has to file an insurance claim. It

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<v Speaker 1>helps justify that insurance claim. If the farmer says that,

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<v Speaker 1>due to whatever reason, the yield was a certain size

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<v Speaker 1>and the data backs that up, it can help the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer get that insurance claim and it also helps build

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<v Speaker 1>out models that will increase efficiency further down the supply chain.

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<v Speaker 1>Mutahi also talked about a cool analytical tool called the

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<v Speaker 1>IBM Argo Pod. This is a great example of an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet of Things device. It's about the size and shape

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<v Speaker 1>of a regular business card. Embedded in the card are

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<v Speaker 1>sensors that can do soil analysis, and a farmer just

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<v Speaker 1>needs to put a small sample of soil on the

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<v Speaker 1>card and chemical reactions will tell the sensor everything it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to know in just ten seconds, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer can take a picture of the card using a

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone and use a related app to store the information

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<v Speaker 1>into a blockchain record. This doesn't just tell the farmer

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<v Speaker 1>of the conditions on the farm, it can also help

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<v Speaker 1>the farmer establish credit because a bank could extend credit

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<v Speaker 1>to a farm against a predicted harvest that's based on

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<v Speaker 1>this collected information. So for farmers all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be an enormous help. Mutahi then handed the

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<v Speaker 1>stage over to Shri ram rug Hoven. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>Vice president and chief Technical Officer of IBM Research in India.

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<v Speaker 1>He shared a pretty staggering pair of facts. One third

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<v Speaker 1>of all food produced and nearly half of all fruits

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<v Speaker 1>and vegetables never get assumed. It just goes to waste.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine if half of your work was immediately dismissed.

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<v Speaker 1>You still had to do the work, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>that half of it wouldn't count. That would be frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>for most jobs, but when it comes to food production,

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<v Speaker 1>it can lead to waste management problems at best, and

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<v Speaker 1>at worst you could be facing starvation issues. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is the challenge here? Is this just a case of

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<v Speaker 1>some places having more food than the population can consume. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a lot more complicated than that. The food

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<v Speaker 1>supply chain is a big issue. There are many points

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<v Speaker 1>along a supply chain, and at every stage spoilage can

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<v Speaker 1>and does occur, So there's a decent chance that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of food will be spoiled before it can ever

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<v Speaker 1>find its way onto a market shelf. From the fields

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<v Speaker 1>to the storage facilities, to transportation vehicles to distribution centers,

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<v Speaker 1>to processors to shops to the home, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stops along the way, and presently this is

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<v Speaker 1>largely a dumb system, meaning there's no real way to

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<v Speaker 1>gather information and share it along the supply chain. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you receive a creative apples in a distribution center

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<v Speaker 1>that are maybe two days away from being at peak ripeness,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have no way of knowing that information. When

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the crate, you might put that create on

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<v Speaker 1>a truck that's going across the country, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time the apples get to their destination, a large number

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<v Speaker 1>of them have already passed their prime and they just

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<v Speaker 1>get thrown out. So what's the solution to this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The proposal we heard is that you would take a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of technologies, and that includes the Internet of things, blockchain,

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<v Speaker 1>and artificial intelligence in order to keep track of everything

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<v Speaker 1>and make decisions. The Internet of things and the blockchain

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<v Speaker 1>combined could log each stage of the journey the food

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<v Speaker 1>takes from field to the market and keep track on

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<v Speaker 1>the freshness of the food. There would be a record

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<v Speaker 1>for each crate or palette or whatever unit of food

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<v Speaker 1>that could record when it arrived and when it each point,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could understand quickly how much time had passed

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<v Speaker 1>since it was harvested. AI could help guide the decision

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<v Speaker 1>making process when it comes to deciding where do you

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<v Speaker 1>send this next. So the example we heard in the

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<v Speaker 1>presentation involved oranges, and here's how it goes. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you run a distribution center in Florida near where

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<v Speaker 1>oranges are grown. So farmers oranges come into your distribution center,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's your job to send those oranges out to

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<v Speaker 1>UH stores in various cities. And the two main cities

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<v Speaker 1>under your responsibility are Atlanta and Chicago. And as it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, in Atlanta, people are hog wild for these oranges.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can confirm that because at least from this

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's point of view, this is accurate. But in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>oranges for some reason just aren't moving nearly so fast

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<v Speaker 1>from the produce section. With access to this information, the

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<v Speaker 1>AI can make decisions. Oranges that still have a really

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<v Speaker 1>long time to ripen could be sent to Chicago because

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<v Speaker 1>they could sit in refrigeration a bit longer. They could

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<v Speaker 1>remain fresh while the inhabitants of the Windy City decide

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<v Speaker 1>they finally want to fight off scurvy. Oranges that are

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<v Speaker 1>close to passing prime ripeness can make the shorter trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta, where they are more likely to be purchased

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<v Speaker 1>and consumed quickly. The distributor can maximize efficiency and minimize waste.

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<v Speaker 1>Now next we're going to hear about a proposal that

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<v Speaker 1>is all about food safety. But first let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. The third presenter in the five and five

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<v Speaker 1>event was Gerroud Dubois, director of IBM research at Almondon.

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<v Speaker 1>Dubois began his presentation by talking about a catastrophe in

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<v Speaker 1>China in two thousand and eight. A shipment of baby

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<v Speaker 1>formula had been contaminated with a chemical called Melman. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an industrial chemical that manufacturers used to treat stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like ceramics and plastics. It is used in glue, in

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<v Speaker 1>flame retardants, and laminates. It is not, as you might imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>meant for consumption. Parents who fed their babies this formula

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<v Speaker 1>quickly became alarmed when the babies began to get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Melman can cause kidney damage and Chinese hospitals had to

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<v Speaker 1>admit more than fifty thousand babies. And even darker part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story is that the addition of the chemical

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<v Speaker 1>was likely intentional. The chemical makes it appear that the formula,

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<v Speaker 1>when combined with milk, is more protein rich than it

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<v Speaker 1>actually is, so it was an attempt at deception. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's even more disturbing. Well, du Bois proposed that we

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<v Speaker 1>rely upon microbes as a sort of microscopic canary in

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<v Speaker 1>a coal mine, or as he called it, a microscopic

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<v Speaker 1>c I a agent, and it would detect when contaminants

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<v Speaker 1>are present in food products. And a microbe is a

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<v Speaker 1>micro organism. Bacteria are a type of microbe, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>likely used stuff like antimicrobial products to help sanitize stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and this could give you the implication that microbes are

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<v Speaker 1>bad and some are definitely harmful to us, but some

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<v Speaker 1>microbes are beneficial. And the human body is host to

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<v Speaker 1>almost actually slightly more microbial cells than human cells. The

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<v Speaker 1>ratio appears to be somewhere around one point three bacterial

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<v Speaker 1>cells to every human cell, so you could say that

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<v Speaker 1>you're more bacteria than person, though that's not really the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Our microbial biome or biota is actually part of us,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would say we are collectively made of both

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria and human cells. We are bored, I guess. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Not all microbes are bad. Some are very helpful and

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<v Speaker 1>they aid us in digesting certain materials, so some are

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<v Speaker 1>good and we should rely upon those. Do Boa proposes

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<v Speaker 1>we could use microbes to detect the presence of contaminants

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<v Speaker 1>and food. So for a long time, scientists thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the behaviors of microbes were too complex and unpredictable to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal meaningful information, that it was almost random. But by

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<v Speaker 1>studying them at a genetic level, looking at the d

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<v Speaker 1>n A and the RNA of microbes, we've gathered a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more information that reveals microbes react in different ways

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<v Speaker 1>to different conditions. To make that determination, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>use a big data approach. Dubai used a helpful analogy

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<v Speaker 1>to describe how challenging this process really was. So imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you have ten thousand boxes of jigsaw puzzles. They're different puzzles,

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<v Speaker 1>and you dump all the pieces out into one enormous pile.

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<v Speaker 1>You mix them up real good, then you throw the

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<v Speaker 1>boxes away, so you don't even have the record of

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<v Speaker 1>what the pictures look like, and now it's your job

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<v Speaker 1>to put together those ten thousand puzzles. That's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of the job we had to do to

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<v Speaker 1>suss out how microbes behave given different conditions. At IBM,

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<v Speaker 1>the research team created a database containing all the microbial

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<v Speaker 1>genomes the scientific world has mapped so far. The genomes

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<v Speaker 1>and the analysis of microbial behavior represents around five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>terabytes of data. But the process was successful and that

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<v Speaker 1>there are microbial behaviors that can indicate the presence of

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<v Speaker 1>contaminants in our food. You have to know which microbes

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for and what behaviors indicates safe versus unsafe food.

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<v Speaker 1>But it could add a new method for food safety

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<v Speaker 1>inspectors to use to guarantee that the products that make

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<v Speaker 1>it to consumers are actually safe to consume. Du Bois

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<v Speaker 1>then introduced us to Donna Dillenberger and IBM Fellow at

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<v Speaker 1>the Thomas J. Watson Research Center. Now, I mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>an earlier episode that the title of IBM Fellow is

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<v Speaker 1>the highest honor IBM bestows on distinguished researchers, scientists, engineers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the like. Dillenberger also talked about food safety. She

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<v Speaker 1>cited a CDC report that I tracked down. The report

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<v Speaker 1>is the Emerging Infectious Diseases Report, and the section Dillenberger

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<v Speaker 1>was specifically referencing is chapter five of that report titled

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<v Speaker 1>food Related Illness and Death in the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to quote the abstract of that report verbatim.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's part of that abstract. We estimate that food born

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<v Speaker 1>diseases cause approximately seventy six million illnesses, three hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand hospitalizations, and five thousand deaths in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States each year. Known pathogens account for an estimated fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>million illnesses, sixty thousand hospitalizations, and eighteen hundred deaths. Three

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<v Speaker 1>pathogens Salmonella, listeria, and toxoplasma, are responsible for fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>deaths each year, more than seventy of those caused by

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<v Speaker 1>known pathogens, while unknown agents account for the remaining sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two million illnesses, two hundred sixty five thousand hospitalizations, and

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, two hundred deaths. Overall, food born diseases appear

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<v Speaker 1>to cause more illnesses but fewer deaths than previously estimated.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. Now, fewer deaths is a good thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>even fewer would be better, And the huge number of

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<v Speaker 1>illnesses represents not just discomfort, stress, anxiety, at a or

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<v Speaker 1>quality of life. There's a ripple effect. The hits society

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole in ways like lost productivity or additional

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<v Speaker 1>burden on the medical industry. So how can we tell

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<v Speaker 1>if the food we buy is safe to eat? The

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria responsible are microscopic, As I mentioned, just a moment ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not likely to have a lab set up in

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<v Speaker 1>our kitchens. Dyllenberger introduced a hardware and software tool that

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<v Speaker 1>could actually help. The hardware component is a smartphone peripheral.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially a microscope that plugs into your smartphone and

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<v Speaker 1>feeds a magnified image to the phone's camera sensor. The

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<v Speaker 1>software side is an analysis tool using AI and image

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<v Speaker 1>recognition strategies to identify bacteria present in food. The results

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<v Speaker 1>of the analysis pop up on the screen as shapes

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<v Speaker 1>around the bacteria, and the type and color of shape

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<v Speaker 1>indicates which kind of bacteria might be present. It can

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<v Speaker 1>scan down to the micron scale and let you know

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<v Speaker 1>if the food you have is safe to eat or

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<v Speaker 1>if it is host to say, a colony of eke

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<v Speaker 1>to lie. Dillenberger also revealed that the same technology could

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<v Speaker 1>be used to help discover food counterfeits, and yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing. In fact, it's a big thing. Dillenberger

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<v Speaker 1>referred to a study that found in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil producers weren't always being totally honest, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least they weren't meeting the right standards. Because a study

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<v Speaker 1>in two found that seventy of the bottles of labeled

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<v Speaker 1>extra virgin olive oil actually failed to meet the standards

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify as extra virgin. You wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the casual glance the difference between regular olive oil

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<v Speaker 1>and good old e v O O, but the scanner

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<v Speaker 1>and paired software can analyze the reflected light from a

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<v Speaker 1>sample of olive oil and determine whether or not it

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<v Speaker 1>matches the real deal or not. The same tech can

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<v Speaker 1>help you figure out if a label is legitimate or

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a clever fake. And it doesn't stop with food,

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<v Speaker 1>though that was the primary focus of the five and

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<v Speaker 1>five presentation, the scanner could also be used to sort

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<v Speaker 1>out the real McCoy from fakers and all sorts of products,

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<v Speaker 1>from fashion accessories to prescription drugs. Moreover, Dylan Berger said

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<v Speaker 1>that while the present implementation uses a smartphone, future versions

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<v Speaker 1>could see embedded sensors integrated into common kitchen tools like

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<v Speaker 1>cutting boards or knives or measuring cups or bowls, and

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<v Speaker 1>by looking for not just authenticity, but for the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of potential pathogens, we could improve our fine dining experience

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<v Speaker 1>and also prevent cases of food poisoning. Next, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>learn a little bit about the conclusion of the five

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<v Speaker 1>and five event and what we might do with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the plastic waste we generate. But first let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. The final presenter at five and five

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<v Speaker 1>was Jeanette Garcia, who has one of the most kick

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<v Speaker 1>ass titles I have ever seen. It's Master Inventor at

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<v Speaker 1>IBM Research Almada. She helped put into perspective exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>big a problem plastic waste has become, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge problem. The world produces around three hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>tons of plastic every year, and about half of that

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<v Speaker 1>plastic is in the form of stuff that's intended for

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<v Speaker 1>single use, meaning we just toss it out afterward. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of communities are now recycling, but sadly, only a small fraction,

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<v Speaker 1>about ten per cent of plastic gets recycled. So why

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<v Speaker 1>is that, Well, there are a few reasons. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that there are different types of plastics and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>all be processed in the same way, which means they

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<v Speaker 1>have to be sorted into different categories. That takes effort

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<v Speaker 1>and time, which also means it costs money. There are

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<v Speaker 1>contaminants that can be a problem particularly food waste, and

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<v Speaker 1>Garcia mentioned that we often don't know what the rules

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<v Speaker 1>are are we supposed to rinse off the plastic. First,

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<v Speaker 1>some types of plastic aren't recyclable at all, And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the problem of economics. Pastic is pretty easy stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to manufacture. If it costs more money to recycle plastic

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<v Speaker 1>than it does to just make new plastic, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with some other economic incentives to encourage recycling.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, plastic is undeniably useful stuff. We

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<v Speaker 1>rely on it for lots of things, not the least

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<v Speaker 1>of which is food packaging. It's hard to dismiss how

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<v Speaker 1>important plastic is in keeping our foods fresher longer, which

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to cutting down food waste. So how do

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<v Speaker 1>we resolve the problem. The specific type of plastic Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>talked about was pet or pet plastic, which is found

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<v Speaker 1>not only in packaging but also stuff like polyester clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>The seventies, this is the type of plastic used in

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like water and soda bottles. If you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle made from pet, you'll see the chasing arrows

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<v Speaker 1>sign with the number one at the center. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot of plastic, but I should point out

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<v Speaker 1>that it's also the most recycled type of plastic in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. PET is completely recy cyclable. The United States

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<v Speaker 1>lags behind Europe when it comes to recycling PET plastic.

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<v Speaker 1>We in the US recycle a little more than of

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<v Speaker 1>PT plastic, while Europe is over the line, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can always do better. One of the methods we rely

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<v Speaker 1>upon to recycle this type of plastic is to wash

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic and then melt it down. Another version uses

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals to depolymerize the plastic. Polymer is a long chain

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<v Speaker 1>of molecules, so this approach effectively breaks those chains down.

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<v Speaker 1>But the melting process has a zero tolerance for contamination,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the only stuff that can get melted down is

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic itself. Any other stuff will foul the melted

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<v Speaker 1>mixture and make it unusable. It also only works with

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<v Speaker 1>clear bottles. The chemical approach has its own drawbacks, a

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<v Speaker 1>big one being the cost of the process, which creates

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<v Speaker 1>that economic barrier I mentioned earlier. IBM solution is called

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<v Speaker 1>volcat which stands for volatile catalyst. So what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? A catalyst is a substance that facility.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a chemical reaction. You would typically use a catalyst

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<v Speaker 1>to speed up a process that would otherwise take much

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<v Speaker 1>longer to complete. Catalysts do this without undergoing permanent chemical

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<v Speaker 1>changes themselves. They're incredibly useful in hundreds of different industrial applications.

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<v Speaker 1>With the volecat approach, IBM could grind up pet plastic

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<v Speaker 1>into flakes, and it wouldn't matter if the plastic was

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<v Speaker 1>clear or had color added to it, or if it

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<v Speaker 1>was clean or if it was dirty. With volcat, IBM

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<v Speaker 1>takes that plastic and puts it into a heating chamber.

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<v Speaker 1>The chamber heats the plastic up to about a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine degrees celsius or three seventy four degrees fahrenheit. At

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<v Speaker 1>that point researchers add the catalyst. Then they cool the

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<v Speaker 1>mixture down to get below one hundred degrees celsius or

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred twelve degrees fahrenheit. That's the temperature which water

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<v Speaker 1>boils under one atmosphere of pressure. The plastic polymers break

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<v Speaker 1>down into a more basic molecular form called B H

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<v Speaker 1>E T, which is a monomer. And you can think

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<v Speaker 1>of a monomer as a molecule that forms the basic

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<v Speaker 1>component of a polymer identical monomers linked together to form polymers.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you've got what is effectively the building blocks

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<v Speaker 1>of PET. The volatile catalyst is completely recoverable and IBM

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<v Speaker 1>engineers can filter the b ET from any other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that was in the mix. The b h g T

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<v Speaker 1>can go on to form new pet containers, So we

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<v Speaker 1>could keep using the same plastic over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>without the need to make more of the stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>should our demand for plastic exceed that amount, we could

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<v Speaker 1>literally mine the Pacific garbage patch and landfills for more material.

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<v Speaker 1>The process sounds incredibly promising and increasing recycling rates, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>for plastics that are dirty or have color added to

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic material. Since the process removes the need to

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<v Speaker 1>clean the plastic first, it could reduce the recycling workload.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is scalable, it could be a viable alternative

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<v Speaker 1>to the present approaches to plastic recycling. These research projects

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<v Speaker 1>were all really interesting to me, and they are all

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make big changes in the entire food life cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a truly enormous challenge and there's still more to

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<v Speaker 1>work on developing technologies to reduce water waste, improve transportation

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<v Speaker 1>and distribution deal with other types of waste, and guaranteeing

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the world has access to healthy and safe

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<v Speaker 1>food is a monumental effort. These research projects are just

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<v Speaker 1>a few of the ways innovators are looking into making

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference. Will we see each of these ideas

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<v Speaker 1>implemented in the real world. What's a bit early to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of those five presenters made a prediction of

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<v Speaker 1>what the world will be like in five years if

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<v Speaker 1>we do further develop, scale and deploy those technologies, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty good start to fixing some incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>tough problems. Research will continue to play a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>at IBM. It's ingrained in the company's culture. Much of

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<v Speaker 1>it focuses on the company's core businesses, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected. You can't stay in business if you never

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<v Speaker 1>focus on your services and products. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that work has applications beyond the enterprise world, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>this drive to leverage powerful technologies to make real changes

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I find so interesting. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>thank IBM for bringing me out here. It was great

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<v Speaker 1>once again getting to explore and experience the Think Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to see a lot of cool presentations about

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<v Speaker 1>technologies that I was aware of but didn't know very

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<v Speaker 1>much about. And I also really am thankful for the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to talk to so many incredible people here at

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<v Speaker 1>the conference and get their perspectives on technology and how

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