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Speaker 1: By the way, it's already started that we have been
Speaker 1: lauding Davante Smith, the Alabama wide receiver, National title winner,
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. USA Today is the first to decide
Speaker 1: that there are some issues with Davante Smith. Buyer beware. Now,
Speaker 1: would you guys like to guess the five parts of
Speaker 1: this article that deal with questions you have about Davonte Smith.
Speaker 1: Paul what is too slight slash skinny for the NFL?
Speaker 1: Strength is listed his number two. He's six one, one
Speaker 1: seventy five six. Thank you. Pretty obvious that he needs
Speaker 1: a few pounds and pro strength program will help. Okay,
Speaker 1: anybody else want to guess one of the top five
Speaker 1: issues concerns about drafting Davonte Smith McLevin How can he
Speaker 1: be the number two pick if he was the fourth
Speaker 1: best receiver on his team as a junior. It doesn't
Speaker 1: say that. It does say Alabama's history that Henry Ruggs,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy first round this last year, Smith and Jalen
Speaker 1: Waddle set to follow. And yet the way Smith is
Speaker 1: being portrayed today in some circles, you'd think that he's
Speaker 1: the second coming of Julio Jones. In terms of impact,
Speaker 1: he most definitely is not. This is according to USA Today.
Speaker 1: USA Today goes on to say he might be Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley two point zero. All right, anybody else got an
Speaker 1: issue with Davonte Smith seating O'Connor somehow? Do they question
Speaker 1: his speed is more quick than fast? Oh? Good call.
Speaker 1: Smith clearly has been more sufficient speed to succeed at
Speaker 1: the next level and appears to effortlessly glide past college defenders.
Speaker 1: Does he have elite burst? Not sure, says USA Today.
Speaker 1: The Tyreek Hill comparisons I've heard make my head explode.
Speaker 1: This isn't to shade Smith as a prospect, but let's
Speaker 1: not assume he's going to blow through NFL secondaries or
Speaker 1: have the same effectiveness in short areas against pro defenses.
Speaker 1: Does anybody have another one here? Yes, Pauli. The league
Speaker 1: already has a star wide receiver named Davanta Davante Adams. Okay,
Speaker 1: now that's not one of them, yes, DoD What about
Speaker 1: his footwork and the double move? Other than just being
Speaker 1: a burst of speed, their concerns about his actual No,
Speaker 1: durability is also in there. Durability, yes, Seaton. Is his
Speaker 1: tape better than he tests? No? Here's the last one?
Speaker 1: Batman or Robin questioned Mark, how quickly we forget the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen bullet nikof winner. Jamar Chase of LSU will
Speaker 1: be in the upcoming NFL draft after opting out of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. He had twenty touchdown catches, the
Speaker 1: SEC record Smith just broke in twenty nineteen with eighty
Speaker 1: four catches, and by most accounts, including Tiger's teammates I
Speaker 1: talked to at the twenty twenty NFL scouting combine, Chase
Speaker 1: played LSU's batman role to Justin Jefferson's Robin Jefferson, by
Speaker 1: the way, just had an incredible year for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: USA Today goes on to say, maybe the Dolphins should
Speaker 1: consider Smith with the third overall pick. He could slide
Speaker 1: into the number two role opposite Davante Parker and on
Speaker 1: that stument too many devantes. DeVante Parker brings in Harry
Speaker 1: Crimson chemistry with quarterback to a Tonga violone. USA Today
Speaker 1: goes on to say, but if I'm another receiver needy
Speaker 1: team picking in the top half of the first round,
Speaker 1: the Jets at number two, the Eagles number six, Lines
Speaker 1: number seven, Giants number eleven, Patriots number fifteen, Ben, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely sending up the Batch signal. But this according to
Speaker 1: USA Today, Yes, mclovin, I got another good one. I
Speaker 1: don't think he had this. You could get at a
Speaker 1: pro Bowl wide receiver in the second round. Look, it's
Speaker 1: I have some second round quarter wide receivers the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. AJ Brown for the Titans, Deebo, Samuel Chase, Claypool,
Speaker 1: Laviska Chennaul T. Higgins, Michael Pittman Jr. These guys all
Speaker 1: went in the second round. They're all have amazing starts,
Speaker 1: so why would you waste number two overall? Pick? I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's where they're going to pick him.
Speaker 1: It seems to be picking. You know. I talked to
Speaker 1: a source yesterday who would take Jamar Chase over Davante
Speaker 1: Smith because we've seen Davante Smith and he performed on
Speaker 1: a high level. He did everything you want him to do.
Speaker 1: But my source said Jamar Chase, he thinks is better
Speaker 1: suited for the NFL. And Jamar Chase sat out this
Speaker 1: season with l shoe. We tend to love the shiny
Speaker 1: object that's new. And then if Davante Smith came back
Speaker 1: for another year or played another year, then we would
Speaker 1: find a way to nitpick. This is just the start
Speaker 1: right now. He's he couldn't be hotter. But we've run
Speaker 1: out of things to say. So what happens is we
Speaker 1: built you up. Now we have to tear you down
Speaker 1: a little bit. But this is is this Nate Davis
Speaker 1: who wrote this? McLevin? Do we know who wrote now?
Speaker 1: He's like an NFL writer for them. Yeah, does a
Speaker 1: solid job. I think he may be playing Devil's advocate
Speaker 1: a little. Yes, well you have to do this because
Speaker 1: what else can you say, boy, he's explosive. Boy, he
Speaker 1: reminds me of Tyree Hill. Boy. He's great in space.
Speaker 1: Like all of these things, he's going to be a star,
Speaker 1: a great team player. I don't know. We've run through
Speaker 1: all of these things. Now you go, Okay, now let's
Speaker 1: look if he really can be great? Is the explosive
Speaker 1: he lacks strength? Is he gonna lack durability? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't miss any games, did he? Alabama's history of
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I don't know about Rugs, and I don't
Speaker 1: know about Jerry Judy. But it's only been one year here.
Speaker 1: I do know Calvin Ridley has had a couple of
Speaker 1: pretty good years in Atlanta. Now he's opposite Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. I'm not a big Amari Cooper fan, but
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper has, you know, gotten a big contract with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Batman or Robin? Can he be the stars?
Speaker 1: He a number two wide receiver? Okay, I'd be curious
Speaker 1: about that, but this is in college. He went from
Speaker 1: being Robin to batman and won the Heisman Trophy. Everybody
Speaker 1: knew he was getting the ball, everybody knew. Still couldn't stop,
Speaker 1: so something should be said about that. And he was
Speaker 1: going against a defensive back with Ohio State and Sean Wade,
Speaker 1: who's going to be a first round draft pick. He
Speaker 1: goes against Patrick Certen probably in practice, who is going
Speaker 1: to be the first corner off the board and may
Speaker 1: go top five. So I'm guessing he's sort of ready
Speaker 1: for this. As far as the durability, I understand it.
Speaker 1: You gotta catch him to do, you know, to you know,
Speaker 1: put a hit on him. As far as explosive, that
Speaker 1: one I found interesting because I have not seen many
Speaker 1: players when they turned the corner and you have the
Speaker 1: angle and he still outruns everybody. And he did that
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. He'd done that against everybody. The explosiveness,
Speaker 1: that top end speed is what makes him. It separates
Speaker 1: him literally from everybody else. He gets to top end
Speaker 1: speed faster than almost any receiver I've seen in recent history.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking about John Ross who ran a
Speaker 1: four two forty. I mean he's I'm talking about a
Speaker 1: football player, not a guy who is a track guy.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who gets top end speed when
Speaker 1: he's running with the football. A lot of guys have
Speaker 1: top end speed, but they got to get the football first. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish the NFL Draft were on January tenth,
Speaker 1: just to see what would happen on January tenth compared
Speaker 1: to April twenty third. It just feels like it's so
Speaker 1: far away and so much is going to change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people at free agency, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see what else do I have you? So I just
Speaker 1: I brought that up, and it won't be the first
Speaker 1: time that we look at the negatives. This is what
Speaker 1: I've said, and I continued to say it, and I'll
Speaker 1: continue to say it when I stopped doing this, John,
Speaker 1: don't talk yourself out of something. Don't look at the negative,
Speaker 1: because if the positive overwegs the negative, then don't worry
Speaker 1: about the negative. Can he get better? Bigger? Yes? Can
Speaker 1: he get stronger? Yes? I mean that's what you look at.
Speaker 1: Look at the frame that he has seventy five? Can
Speaker 1: he get better? Could he? Do you want him to
Speaker 1: get bigger? Now that's another thing. How much bigger do
Speaker 1: you want him to get? Is the explosive? Yes, he
Speaker 1: was batman at Alabama when he was robbing the year before,
Speaker 1: and you saw what happened when he got center stage.
Speaker 1: He was not afraid they went to him. You knew
Speaker 1: he was getting it and he did damage to you.
Speaker 1: But I would look at the positives here. Do I
Speaker 1: want to take him that high? I'd rather not, but
Speaker 1: that might be the going rate top five for Davante Smith.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you you forget about Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: who was considered better than Justin Jefferson, who had fourteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards for the Vikings this year. If Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: went out last year, he's a top ten pick. We
Speaker 1: didn't see him all this year. But I'm just I
Speaker 1: throw that out because this is get ready for this
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, a couple of months leading
Speaker 1: up to the NFL Draft, and with no combine this
Speaker 1: year at least it looks like we probably won't. Then
Speaker 1: you have even more mystery that will surround these, uh
Speaker 1: these draft picks. Yes mcclem, Yeah, I just put up
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase's game. Luck. I forgot he had two twenty
Speaker 1: one in that title game against Clemson. Yeah, which was
Speaker 1: the first half for devote to spit. But still, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're look, they're both great. It feels like
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. He was the best wide receiver last year.
Speaker 1: It just he didn't play this year. And because of that,
Speaker 1: you know, out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: m club and Kyle Pitts is a different breed, right.
Speaker 1: We're not putting him because he's like a tight end. Yes,
Speaker 1: I could see him going like eight or nine because
Speaker 1: like like TJ. Howkinson went there. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a pure tight end though. No, there's a Chase Claypool
Speaker 1: feel to him. But I will say Pitts is tough.
Speaker 1: Pits is tough, and it felt like that was the
Speaker 1: life preserver for Kyle Trask when he needed a big play,
Speaker 1: he found Pitts. Yeah, mclev. Do you remember when receiver
Speaker 1: rookie receivers weren't good back in like fantasy football, there
Speaker 1: was a role never take a rookie receivers. Now, like
Speaker 1: these guys are all like A. J. Browns in his
Speaker 1: second year and he was dominant Titans. Yeah, it's I
Speaker 1: think we focus on the quarterbacks are ready to go
Speaker 1: right away, and we're finding there are receivers who are
Speaker 1: ready to go right away. But it used to be
Speaker 1: I didn't want a receiver in the first round, because
Speaker 1: the draft was littered with first round draft picks at
Speaker 1: wide receiver who failed. Now it feels like if you
Speaker 1: get somebody who is in the right system with the
Speaker 1: right coach in college, then they're ready to make that
Speaker 1: transition because a lot of these college quarterbacks, these coaches,
Speaker 1: they're they're running a pro style offense here that you're
Speaker 1: letting the quarterback have a little bit more leeway at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You know, your wide receivers have
Speaker 1: to read coverage here. It's a little bit different. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: it always felt like McLellan said that eighties nineties wide
Speaker 1: receivers that were rookies came in kind of thin. They
Speaker 1: didn't look like grown men. A J. Brown, I mean,
Speaker 1: he looks like a twenty seven year old jack guy
Speaker 1: coming in Day one, DK Metcalf, Claypool, all these guys.
Speaker 1: But I can't put my hands on you now as
Speaker 1: much back then they can manhandle you. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I didn't let you off the line of scrimmage. And
Speaker 1: if I did, I've already disrupted the timing of all
Speaker 1: of this. I mean, if I put you in the
Speaker 1: slot and I give you like a two or three
Speaker 1: yard headstart. It's tough to kind of hit a moving
Speaker 1: target here and slow him down. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: just starting now where we start to look at these
Speaker 1: players and then you know, we start to bring him
Speaker 1: down a notch or two. And that's going to happen
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. Somebody's gonna look at Trevor Lawrence and say,
Speaker 1: here are some negatives there. It's going to happen because
Speaker 1: you'll read that. You have to understand this business. If
Speaker 1: everybody says nice things about everybody all the time, after
Speaker 1: a while, you go, there's nothing that's you know, capturing
Speaker 1: my attention. But how many people are contrarians in my business?
Speaker 1: And you'll watch, you'll listen, you'll read and some are
Speaker 1: true contrarians and some are not. But look, that's their identity,
Speaker 1: that's their game plan, and you know, good luck to them.
Speaker 1: But that's what happens. Hey, you know, let me take
Speaker 1: the other side. That's what happens with debate shows because
Speaker 1: you can't go, hey, we both agree on this. Well,
Speaker 1: what would happen at the Mothership is if you both agreed,
Speaker 1: then you had to move on to something else, or
Speaker 1: are you willing to change your opinion, because that happened
Speaker 1: too at the super Bowl in Miami many many years
Speaker 1: ago when I was there. We add Joe Thiseman and
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly on set and we had a topic and
Speaker 1: they both agreed and Thiseman said, all take the other side,
Speaker 1: and then we had a segment there. Now did Joe
Speaker 1: truly believe in that? No, But Joe knew the content that, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to create something here where we go back
Speaker 1: and forth. That's what happens on these shows because if
Speaker 1: you go, hey, what do you guys think of and
Speaker 1: then you have a topic and then they go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you both agree, that's not good TV or good radio.
Speaker 1: That's on letting you behind the curtain there. Yeah. Point
Speaker 1: I briefly filled in on a morning show on a
Speaker 1: popular sports network. It rhymes with schmold beizza. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to give you the name of the show. But
Speaker 1: they would actually talk to the two people on air,
Speaker 1: get their notes, and then assign them like a debate
Speaker 1: class where one side of class is assigned to take,
Speaker 1: the other side of the classes assigned to take, and
Speaker 1: the two hosts were assigned their takes. They tried to
Speaker 1: make it truistic. But if they couldn't do it, they
Speaker 1: were assigned. Phone calls are welcome. Age seven seven three
Speaker 1: DP show. Nate Burlson, former NFL wide receiver, should have
Speaker 1: some interesting opinions on DeVante Smith. Everybody seems to have
Speaker 1: one now. Chris Mannocks from Sports Illustrated and what's going
Speaker 1: on with Kyrie Irving. If Kyrie doesn't want to play
Speaker 1: and he has bigger goals, bigger issues that he wants
Speaker 1: to be a part of, then that's fine. But he's
Speaker 1: got to decide who he wants to be. Do you
Speaker 1: want to be a professional athlete, then be professional and
Speaker 1: if not, then whatever you want to do. He was
Speaker 1: on a zoom call last night, had to do with
Speaker 1: a district attorney running for election, and it had Ka
Speaker 1: l I think it was Ka l Irving, it was
Speaker 1: Cal Irving. And he's up there with like, there's twenty
Speaker 1: five people on this call and this is during the
Speaker 1: Nets game, and Kyrie is there, I guess, weighing in
Speaker 1: on this politician. That's why I understand. If you want
Speaker 1: to be part of this, then be part of this.
Speaker 1: But you can't do both if you have larger goals
Speaker 1: than just being a professional athlete. Then that's fine. But
Speaker 1: he already disrespected Steve Nash when before he even got
Speaker 1: Steve Nash got there, he's like, we don't need a
Speaker 1: head coach. We got a bunch of head coaches here.
Speaker 1: All right, you've already disrespected Steve Nash. Now you walk
Speaker 1: that back a little bit after he was told you
Speaker 1: probably should walk that back, not before blaming the media.
Speaker 1: But the Nets need him, and then that's why the
Speaker 1: Nets are quiet about this. They're tiptoeing around this. But
Speaker 1: if you're on a zoom call that has to do
Speaker 1: with politics or policy, don't do it when the Nets
Speaker 1: are planning. Like yes, at least Harden showed up sort
Speaker 1: of and then basically had his exit interview. It felt
Speaker 1: like where he's like, Hey, I love this city, but
Speaker 1: I can't do anything and it's a messed up situation here.
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. Ze all right, thanks James. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: we're about two weeks away from Kyrie streaming a pickup
Speaker 1: game in Brooklyn during a Nets game, like he'll be
Speaker 1: out at the court and during the same exact time
Speaker 1: he'll be playing pickup with the Hobble fans or he'll
Speaker 1: be doing Uncle Drew two or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, I've been told by two people I trust.
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, he's gotten legitimate reasons why he's
Speaker 1: not showing up there, And I go, okay, just tell
Speaker 1: me the legitimate reason. Just give us an idea. Be professional. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: the team doesn't seem to be all that bothered by
Speaker 1: well I think they're nervous about saying too much maybe,
Speaker 1: but I mean the media is certainly bothered. They really
Speaker 1: can't stand this. But the team is kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll be back when he back, no big deal. But
Speaker 1: the media is like, we need to know right now
Speaker 1: where is he? Well, I do want to know now
Speaker 1: where he is. And then if you say he's going
Speaker 1: to take extra time off, all right, fine, he owes
Speaker 1: it to Steve Nash to be professional and the nets
Speaker 1: to be professional, because the last I looked, he's still
Speaker 1: getting paid, still getting paid. Now, if he says you
Speaker 1: don't pay me, I'm gonna take some time off, okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, But he's still on the clock getting paid,
Speaker 1: getting paid an awful lot of money. And you know,
Speaker 1: same with James Harden. You want out, you created this
Speaker 1: and now you want out of what you created. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to Mannix about that coming up. Your phone calls
Speaker 1: are welcome. We got our poll question mclevland, and we're
Speaker 1: staying with that for the second hour. Yeah, so would
Speaker 1: you take trade offers if you're the Houston Texans seventy? Yes,
Speaker 1: But if you go there, it's the point of no return.
Speaker 1: Like you go down the one way street, you can't go.
Speaker 1: We want to make a U turn here. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a club. I have a coaching Paul, given everything, mean,
Speaker 1: why don't you wait? Yeah, okay, it's a coaching philosophy, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'll say it. All right, let me let me, let
Speaker 1: me take a break, and maybe it's a question that
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Speaker 1: or Sadie's Ben's Vans. I had a friend who former
Speaker 1: NFL player. He realized that we were have Nate Burlson
Speaker 1: on He goes, you got to ask Nate about buying
Speaker 1: fake jewelry, and I go, wait, Nate bought fake jewelry? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes, Yeah, he spent money in his first contract,
Speaker 1: and I think he bought a car, maybe he bought
Speaker 1: his parents something. But he bought fake jewelry because he thought, well,
Speaker 1: nobody would know that you had fake jewelry, because hey,
Speaker 1: you're a pro and you're making some good money here.
Speaker 1: You're being smart with your money. Nate Burlson on Loan
Speaker 1: from CBS Sports, also Nickelodeon, Nate' is that true that
Speaker 1: you had fake jewelry with your first contract? Yes, that
Speaker 1: is very true. First, let me say thanks for having
Speaker 1: me on. I appreciate it. Yeah, definitely. When I first
Speaker 1: got in the league, there were priorities, and it was
Speaker 1: paying down certain bills that my mother and father had,
Speaker 1: making sure that we were secure in a couple of
Speaker 1: homes that I wanted to buy for them, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure my wife was taken care of. And then
Speaker 1: when it came to me, I knew that I wanted jewry,
Speaker 1: but I also wanted jewelry more for the look of it.
Speaker 1: And I was buying jewelry because I thought it looked
Speaker 1: cool on me. So in my first contract, I was
Speaker 1: going down to New York or any bootlegs swamp me
Speaker 1: and give me something shiny that you couldn't tell the
Speaker 1: difference if it was real or fake. Now, at thirty nine,
Speaker 1: you know, I buy jewelry for different reasons. I don't
Speaker 1: buy it because I want people to see it. I
Speaker 1: buy it because I really like it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the difference between young Nebe Broson and old neb Broson.
Speaker 1: At this age. Whenever I buy it, I do it
Speaker 1: for myself, and most of the time I buy it
Speaker 1: not to wear it, just so I can have it.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate it. You should go to the rookie
Speaker 1: symposium and tell those rookies, Hey, you're gonna get money,
Speaker 1: do the right thing for your family, but save your money.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with fake jewelry. You're right about that. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'll tell these guys in a heartbeat. You know, if
Speaker 1: you get a contract, one invested properly and know what
Speaker 1: you're invested in. So you're gonna have to educate yourself,
Speaker 1: save more money than you spend going and buy you
Speaker 1: some land because they don't make that anymore. And forget
Speaker 1: about all the fancy stuff, the car that depreciates off
Speaker 1: the lot, and the diamonds that you can buy three
Speaker 1: contracts from now, so there's always time to spend money
Speaker 1: on stupid stuff. How about you make stupid money and
Speaker 1: then buy stupid things. See it's that kind of logic
Speaker 1: down to earth fatherly advice that came through on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1: Because that broadcast was so much fun, I tuned over
Speaker 1: and then I didn't tune back in to Jim Nan
Speaker 1: Santoni romo, and I was wondering, because you have kids,
Speaker 1: does it help you in explaining things as you did
Speaker 1: to a younger audience on Nickelodeon. It does it? Does?
Speaker 1: You know? When I first got the news, I went
Speaker 1: home and over dinner, I was talking to my kids.
Speaker 1: I have a sixteen year old little Nate, fourteen year
Speaker 1: old Niemiah in a ten year old that's my baby girl,
Speaker 1: mea pearl, and I was asking them about the new
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon shows that I might not be hip too, because
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the old school stuff, you know, the
Speaker 1: Double Dares and all those different shows like Rugrats. But
Speaker 1: the new era shows I wasn't caught up on as
Speaker 1: much as I needed to be. And then I wanted
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, to be honest, like what's hip?
Speaker 1: Like what are kids saying? You know, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: moments where I'm the older guy. I know that that's
Speaker 1: my specific role in this broadcast, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to be too far out of the loop where it
Speaker 1: seems like I'm trying hard. So I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make things relatable, and I didn't want to talk down
Speaker 1: to a group of young fans that are smart enough
Speaker 1: to understand what I'm saying. This wasn't football for dummies,
Speaker 1: This was just football for a larger demographic, you know,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk to the five year old
Speaker 1: and also the fifty year old, you know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to I wanted to bring up how che Chubisky was
Speaker 1: benched during the season and then comparing that to being grounded.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure everybody at home is like, oh,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. And then it was great about Noah Eagle,
Speaker 1: who is a chip off the old block. As soon
Speaker 1: as we started talking about Mitchell Strubisky and then not
Speaker 1: letting him throw the ball in the game, he says, Nate,
Speaker 1: he might be off restriction, but I don't think Naggie,
Speaker 1: quote unquote, his parents are letting him leave the yard,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was great. It's like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: need to let him leave the yard. Let him throw
Speaker 1: the ball down field. That's the only way he can
Speaker 1: get back in this game. So a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that I was able to do and explain it landed.
Speaker 1: But also Cole Comet the tight end. You know, he
Speaker 1: threw the ball and you talked about emotions and dealing
Speaker 1: with your emotions there and got the best of him.
Speaker 1: You said, you know, use your words. Yeah. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: was like every parents, every teacher, every guardian, every older
Speaker 1: person that has given me a quote or some type
Speaker 1: of cliche, I used it and it was all fitting
Speaker 1: in the moment, and it was It was the perfect
Speaker 1: broadcast for me. You know, I was born in the eighties,
Speaker 1: raised in the nineties, influenced by the two thousand, so
Speaker 1: a lot of who I am it comes out naturally.
Speaker 1: You know, a guy that can weave in music and
Speaker 1: movies and pop culture and all the little things that
Speaker 1: make me unique while explaining that on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: I just got off, just got done with a three
Speaker 1: hour show, and you know, dropping a pop pop culture
Speaker 1: reference is in my way of staying relevant. It's my
Speaker 1: way of communicating, which made this broadcast for Nickelodeon special.
Speaker 1: He's Nate Merlson. I think you spent eleven years in
Speaker 1: the NFL and set sound right. Yeah. He's one of
Speaker 1: the hosts NFL Networks Good Morning Football, which hairs Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday starting at seven am Eastern. Also part of
Speaker 1: the Nickelodeon broadcast with the Bears in the Saints, a
Speaker 1: couple of NFL items here to talk about. If you
Speaker 1: were the GM of the Texans, what would you do
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson? You gotta keep him. You can't let
Speaker 1: a guy like that leave your facility. Don't don't work
Speaker 1: out some type of trade and get draft picks or
Speaker 1: trade for another QB. There's a lot going on right
Speaker 1: now and emotions are hot. One. I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: when Deshaun Watson signed this long term deal, he was
Speaker 1: probably thinking to himself, I'm gonna be the QB that
Speaker 1: is involved in every decision moving forward. And now it's
Speaker 1: okay for him to think that. Is it Is it
Speaker 1: a necessity for a quarterback to be involved in decision making? No,
Speaker 1: and to be honest, in most situations, it isn't the case.
Speaker 1: But if you trade away DeAndre Hopkins and you know
Speaker 1: that the face of the franchise was JJ Watton is
Speaker 1: now Deshaun Watson, J J. Watt will su be done
Speaker 1: in a few years. You have to make sure that
Speaker 1: you make your quarterback happy. And look at what he
Speaker 1: had to deal with this year with the injuries, DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins being going, Will Fuller being suspended because of PDS
Speaker 1: I believe it was, and he still was just spectacular
Speaker 1: in every game, fighting to the fourth quarter. So you
Speaker 1: want to keep that type of talent around, bring in
Speaker 1: somebody like Eric B. Enemy. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is about Eric B. Enemy not landing a head coaching job,
Speaker 1: but if you could bring in a guy that can
Speaker 1: mimic that Kansas City Chief's offense with a quarterback like
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, they'll be in good shape. I was surprised
Speaker 1: that they let Deshaun in on the process or told
Speaker 1: him he would be involved in it. That's where I
Speaker 1: think they made a mistake, because we've seen franchises that
Speaker 1: have Hall of Fame quarterbacks who are not involved in
Speaker 1: the process. If you're going to bring him in, then
Speaker 1: listen to what he has to say, or don't ask him.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that's where they made a mistake.
Speaker 1: But this is a messed up organization to begin with.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think they're bringing in a GM
Speaker 1: that quarterback doesn't want, now, who's their coach going to be?
Speaker 1: You're not going to hire the guy that he probably
Speaker 1: wants in there. And I don't think J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: is there next year. They used to be a formidable
Speaker 1: defense team. I don't know. I look around. If I'm
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson, I go I don't want to be
Speaker 1: around here. I love Houston, then I don't love playing
Speaker 1: for detections. Yeah, and it's unfortunate because J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: at one point this season said the same thing. There
Speaker 1: are rumors that he wanted to be gone. Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a little bit upset and more likely just
Speaker 1: exhausted with everything that's going on. But you know, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Now, when I came in, whatever happened in
Speaker 1: the front office, players didn't know about there was there
Speaker 1: was a distinct disconnect, and we were okay with it.
Speaker 1: That's just how it goes, right. We're here to play football.
Speaker 1: You cut us to check, We'll go do what we
Speaker 1: need to do to win games. We hope that you
Speaker 1: guys do everything when it comes to scouting, the draft,
Speaker 1: free agency, and you help add to our team. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: because guys are getting from so many different areas, some
Speaker 1: guys are more obvious than others. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: front office staff, coaches. They're always looking for the new
Speaker 1: face to young face. You might have to collaborate with
Speaker 1: your quarterback because these QB's are different, They're a lot smarter,
Speaker 1: they've been playing football for a long time. If you're
Speaker 1: Matt Lafour. You go to Green Bay, you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to You're gonna want to connect with Aaron Rodgers. You're
Speaker 1: gonna want to collaborate with him on what's best for
Speaker 1: the team. If you're at Bruce Arians as long as
Speaker 1: he's been around the resume that he has, he wants
Speaker 1: to collaborate with Tom Brady and appreciate what he knows
Speaker 1: and then try to apply that to the offense. I
Speaker 1: do feel like there's a new wave coming of gems
Speaker 1: and coaches that are looking at these quarterbacks saying, all right,
Speaker 1: how much do you want to be involved? Because if
Speaker 1: you do want to be involved in the process, then
Speaker 1: we will allow you to because I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and you know this, It's just like TV.
Speaker 1: There might be a coach that comes in that doesn't
Speaker 1: know half what the quarterback knows. There might be a
Speaker 1: producer that joins your staff, and as much as you
Speaker 1: can appreciate where they came from or where they are
Speaker 1: plucked from, they don't know half as much as you know.
Speaker 1: So at that point, what do you do? Are you
Speaker 1: a complete jerk and saying it's my way of the highway,
Speaker 1: or are you saying, hey, I'm gonna listen to what
Speaker 1: you got to bring to the table, but let me
Speaker 1: show you what I have, and let's figure out the
Speaker 1: best game plan to give the best show or to
Speaker 1: be the best team. What should like to play in
Speaker 1: a game where you don't have confidence in your quarterback
Speaker 1: like you may like him, but he's not good. It's
Speaker 1: the worst. It's the worst because you know you're I
Speaker 1: remember being in a huddle and our quarterback got hit
Speaker 1: and we're sitting in there, and at this point we
Speaker 1: knew that it was going to be tough for us
Speaker 1: to gain some momentum because r QB had the whites
Speaker 1: of his eyes showing he wasn't making eye contact with us,
Speaker 1: and as he's trying to get this playout, he's like
Speaker 1: the slot right, slot right, And once he gets nervous,
Speaker 1: he did he did like nervous cough of clearing his
Speaker 1: throat instead of getting in a huddle and looking at us,
Speaker 1: dust himself off. Sam, all right, hey, listen, listen, all right,
Speaker 1: we just took a shot. We're good, man, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. I know second and fifteen. Who cares? You're good?
Speaker 1: You're good. I'm good. Let's go here, we go lot right,
Speaker 1: nine eighty nine on one. That's cool, that's what we want.
Speaker 1: But when you have a QB that looks defeated, his
Speaker 1: body language is bad and he can't even make eye
Speaker 1: contact with with you, and the season has been going down, down,
Speaker 1: down all year long, you're in that huddle defeated as well,
Speaker 1: because you're you know, you can get to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and do everything that you're paid to do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get off the ball, quick release move, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm stacking on top. I'll make a move up the
Speaker 1: top of the right open here I am. And then
Speaker 1: you're looking and you're you know, you know, coming out
Speaker 1: of that break, your QB is either scrambling for his
Speaker 1: life or he's on the ground. But you gotta keep
Speaker 1: your head up. And you know the way that I
Speaker 1: was brought in, you don't show up in that locker
Speaker 1: room telling everybody how bad the QB is, or how
Speaker 1: you need that have more confidence, or how better players
Speaker 1: need to be called. I don't know. I'll come from
Speaker 1: an era where you just you zip it up and
Speaker 1: you don't complain. We get paid to deal with the bs,
Speaker 1: So I love how every guy who's gonna mimic a
Speaker 1: wide receiver coming off the line of scrimmage does that
Speaker 1: a little? If that's all I should, I could have
Speaker 1: been all pro. If I it's just that little shake,
Speaker 1: just a little shake there, I don't I don't have
Speaker 1: to get up and I can do that shake there. Um,
Speaker 1: one more idea when you do. I just read off
Speaker 1: an article in USA Today, a column talking about the
Speaker 1: five things to be concerned about with Davonte Smith in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Can you believe there's five things that we
Speaker 1: should be concerned about with Javonte Smith going into the NFL? Really,
Speaker 1: I am shocked that somebody would write an arcas, are
Speaker 1: these are legitimate? Five things? Are these on the field?
Speaker 1: Five thing? Yeah? It's like, yeah, so there's durability? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, six one seventy five. Who cares? Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't care about that. Listen. I'm watching this game, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching this game with my son, who is about
Speaker 1: six two and he's he's a buck fifty's soaking wet. Um.
Speaker 1: He's a sophomore and Jersey um and um, he's quite
Speaker 1: the town to wide receiver. And we're looking at this
Speaker 1: guy and very very similar frame, and I was blown away.
Speaker 1: I just kept saying, I said, minutes Trevor Lawrence wasn't
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, this dude would go number
Speaker 1: one overall, like as a wide receiver. And my son's like,
Speaker 1: I really think he's that good and I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he's damn near unstoppable. And why is it. It's a
Speaker 1: combination of a lot of things. He's fast, he has
Speaker 1: really good hands, great placement with his hands when there's
Speaker 1: traffic too. He's a tremendous route runner, and that's rare.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that were last six seven
Speaker 1: years in this league and they only go run three routes.
Speaker 1: And if you pay attention to some of your favorite players,
Speaker 1: you'll notice, like, damn, they are pretty much one trick ponies.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, they use him in multiple ways.
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna have to go to a system where
Speaker 1: you can move them around a little bit. But the
Speaker 1: variety in which they use him outside inside put him
Speaker 1: in motion. They literally ran the same play back to
Speaker 1: back and scored on back to back plays. They just
Speaker 1: flipped it and ran it opposite ways. So he can
Speaker 1: do it all and that's why he's going to be good.
Speaker 1: I was sitting back saying, man, if I'm the Jets,
Speaker 1: they're sitting that number two. I mean, why not? Why
Speaker 1: not get you a pure number one wide receiver? Because
Speaker 1: with how he played and what he was able to
Speaker 1: do on that field in that stage in the first half,
Speaker 1: and the Heisman Trophy and the twenty plus touchdowns, this
Speaker 1: is a dude that's gonna come in right now. Some
Speaker 1: of these rookies are gonna take some time. You look
Speaker 1: at Henry Ruggs a little up and down, Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: with the Broncos struggling to catch the ball. There's certain
Speaker 1: guys where you're like, all right, it's gonna take you
Speaker 1: a little bit of time to catch your rhythm and
Speaker 1: really start to gain confidence. It's not the case with
Speaker 1: d Smith. This dude is gonna be here. Here's some
Speaker 1: of the other ones. Can he he be a batman?
Speaker 1: Or is he a Robin? Now? These are these were
Speaker 1: five things brought up by an NFL writer in USA today.
Speaker 1: Can he be a Batman or Robin? Explosiveness came up?
Speaker 1: Can he be the same kind of explosive player in
Speaker 1: the NFL? And so I he became batman this year.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew he was going to get the ball because
Speaker 1: Waddle got hurt. The explosiveness, there is still that gear
Speaker 1: that he has, as you know, he gets to top
Speaker 1: end speed as quick, as fast as anybody that I've
Speaker 1: seen except for maybe Tyreek Hill. So I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: where's the question mark on explosiveness. Don't be fooled by
Speaker 1: the long legs in the easy stride. My nickname in
Speaker 1: high school was Cadillac, and I used to get offended
Speaker 1: by it, and one of my coaches said, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not because you're long and slow. You may think
Speaker 1: of Cadillac as long and slow. What we're saying is
Speaker 1: you're smooth and you got speed and you can pick
Speaker 1: it up at any time and your your effortless in
Speaker 1: and out of your breaks. And I embraced that nickname
Speaker 1: once I got to college. He is he's he's like
Speaker 1: a smooth vehicle. And the thing is, like, you know,
Speaker 1: he made a decision to let these other guys that
Speaker 1: might have had a little bit more hype into the draft.
Speaker 1: You could answer the draft, but he held on to
Speaker 1: the right time and that's what makes him even more
Speaker 1: dangerous is the fact that he spent four years polishing
Speaker 1: up his craft and and and he can he can
Speaker 1: beat you man coverage. There's a reason why he's opened
Speaker 1: by two or three yards when one guy's guarding him.
Speaker 1: He could beat you when there's zone coverage. And as
Speaker 1: far as durability, Stefan Diggs is about six foot, I mean,
Speaker 1: he might be about a buck eighty five, maybe buck ninety.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But Stefan dis isn't the biggest receiver
Speaker 1: in the world, but he's the best receiver in all
Speaker 1: of football this year. So now if you're saying, well, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the strength, and he
Speaker 1: looks a little slight. Okay, so if he's done this
Speaker 1: in four years working out of Bouda, which I know,
Speaker 1: Alabama's a beast. They prepared like pros. What happens when
Speaker 1: he when he gets that grown man strength. You know
Speaker 1: what happens when you go through those grown man situations.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, when you start
Speaker 1: playing grown man bills, you get a little bit stronger.
Speaker 1: You know, like when when real life hits you get
Speaker 1: a little bit stronger. Your mustache starts coming in. That
Speaker 1: gets Harry what happens when he hit his mid twenties
Speaker 1: and real life hits him and then he's out there playing.
Speaker 1: He's not playing for a turkey solence at the cafeteria
Speaker 1: at Alabama. He's playing for a million dollar check. That's
Speaker 1: a different Marvin Harrison was six foot one seventy nine
Speaker 1: at the combine there. And but also, I you know,
Speaker 1: my thing with DeVante Smith is you talk you or
Speaker 1: any draft pick. You talk yourself out of a pick
Speaker 1: because you look at the negatives. And that's why I
Speaker 1: always say, I don't understand that if you're positives outweigh
Speaker 1: your negatives, then that's what you have to focus on.
Speaker 1: Not you know, one, I don't know if he's strong
Speaker 1: enough for like that's where it gets dangerous. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what the Bears probably did with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of slight and I don't know
Speaker 1: if he can. You know, Mahomes seems like he wants
Speaker 1: to be bred Fogg. Let's get this conservative Mitchell, truebisky
Speaker 1: guy who looks like he's durable and he can play
Speaker 1: and he's athletic. You talk yourself out of this and
Speaker 1: I think that's the dangerous part of this and how
Speaker 1: many how many teams talk themselves out of drafting Lamar Jackson. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, because they said we can't. The Baltimore Ravens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they picked him up in the first round. They got
Speaker 1: him in at the at the last pick. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Congrats on the success and
Speaker 1: even Extra as I watch Extra every night just because
Speaker 1: I want to check in on Billy Bush, make sure
Speaker 1: he's behaving, but I keep my keep him in sick.
Speaker 1: He's good to go. Yeah. Actually I'm tuning in to
Speaker 1: watch his co host. Yeah yeah, yeah, Jennifer Yeah no,
Speaker 1: not you, yeah yeah yeah, watching her. Thank you, Nate.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as always. Of course. Great up.
Speaker 1: That's Nate Merlson. He's got a lot of jobs there.
Speaker 1: He's Extra, he's Nickelodeon, he's CBS pregame show, he's NFL
Speaker 1: Network Good Morning Football. All right, we'll take a break
Speaker 1: running late here. We'll get phone calls coming up. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon
Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Todd says,
Speaker 1: don't take the calls because they're not any good. And
Speaker 1: I say, Todd, that's not fair. It's not it's not right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, Peter Schreger from Good Morning Football on
Speaker 1: the NFL Network says, the Jagson urban Meyer met Friday
Speaker 1: morning on Shad Khan's yacht. It's now Wednesday. One to
Speaker 1: watch over the next couple of days. Hey, well, feels
Speaker 1: like he's assembling his staff there. And I would imagine
Speaker 1: that we would get some kind of news, although they
Speaker 1: might say, don't have any coaching news that'll interrupt the
Speaker 1: coverage of the NFL games this weekend. A couple of
Speaker 1: phone calls K in California. Hi, K, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Yeah? How's it going? Dan? I thank you
Speaker 1: for having me on your show. I was going to
Speaker 1: talk about device Smith, but you know, nay, he pretty
Speaker 1: much covered that. I wanted to talk about Kyrie this guy.
Speaker 1: Is this sickening? Is it just me? Or is there
Speaker 1: ever since twenty sixteen where he didn't get the limelight
Speaker 1: he deserved after that shot or he just goes entitled
Speaker 1: to this positioning in the NBA. It's like he's no
Speaker 1: longer the best right now, best point guard in the league.
Speaker 1: You got your guy, LaMelo, you got to me, Trey.
Speaker 1: Is there so many point guards that's kind of passing
Speaker 1: him up. He's just like in it for shock value.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you want to play basketball, like you said,
Speaker 1: play play the game. If you want to be a revolutionary,
Speaker 1: do that. He's just like, I don't know, man, he's
Speaker 1: I'm just tired of him, dude, Like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have Chris Mannox, you know, coming up in about thirty
Speaker 1: minutes from now, just to get an idea of really
Speaker 1: what's going on here, because I don't know if Kyrie
Speaker 1: wants to play basketball, if he's all in, and if
Speaker 1: if he's not all in, then let the nets know
Speaker 1: and let Steve Nash know. If there's other things in play,
Speaker 1: then that's fine. Well, you know, given the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt and given them some time off. But it
Speaker 1: just seems like a big mystery. And then he shows
Speaker 1: up on a zoom call for a district attorney who
Speaker 1: I think was running for reelection, and he showed up
Speaker 1: in his name had his name and said col Ka
Speaker 1: L I think Irving and he's there during the Nets game,
Speaker 1: and I went, Okay, maybe you got some things going on,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like it's a real serious thing
Speaker 1: that's going on. Matt in Colorado, Hey Matt, what do
Speaker 1: you have for me today? May then? Hey, Matt, first time,
Speaker 1: long time, six foot in a hard to twenty. Hey.
Speaker 1: If the MLB isn't on the phone with Disney or
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon right now, they got to be fooled. They're talking
Speaker 1: about trying to get to the younger demographic. The NFL
Speaker 1: just nailed it with the Nickelodeon. Yeah, they did. And
Speaker 1: this is I'll let you in on something now. Because
Speaker 1: I hinted at this and I was told that I
Speaker 1: was not allowed to talk about this. I thought the
Speaker 1: NBA was going to do this with the bubble when
Speaker 1: they came back and no fans, they were going to
Speaker 1: be in the bubble. I was told they were going
Speaker 1: to have splashy graphics and the use of Disney. There
Speaker 1: was going to be a Disney aspect to the NBA coverage.
Speaker 1: That's what I was told. Never happened. Now you have
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon with the NFL and maybe you see something like
Speaker 1: this a main channel and then an alternative channel. Final
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