1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Nothing drives scientific inquiry quite like a war. If necessity 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: is the mother of invention, then the need to outwit, outperform, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: and outlast your enemy has long been the most maternal 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: of all. Warfare has galvanized progress since the conflicts of 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: the ancient world. A desire for stronger weapons and armour 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: led to experimentation with smelting and the dawning of the 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Iron Age. The need for more accurate naval navigation fueled 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: developments in astronomy, cartography, and the workings of the winds 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: and tides. In twenty twelve BCE, the great thinker Archimedes 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: used cutting edge mathematics to design catapults and trebouchetes for 11 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: the defense of Syracuse. Seventeen hundred years later, the Italian 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: astronomer Galileo made strides in the understanding of ballistics and 13 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: projectile motion, all put to good use in gaining a 14 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: military advantage. Galileo's telescope is celebrated for how it showed 15 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: us the heavens, but he pitched it to the army. 16 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: First War has driven wider advances than weaponry alone. The 17 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: long winding path to medical enlightenment runs alongside the human 18 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: battlefield for better and worse. In the mid fourteenth century, Ulugulus, 19 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: or the Mongol Golden Horde, as it was also known, 20 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: surrounded the Genoese city of Kaffer For years, the siege 21 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: held in brutal equilibrium until in thirteen forty seven, a 22 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: plague devastated the Mongol army, forcing them into retreat. In desperation, 23 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: their warlord, Janny Bay, ordered his men to place the 24 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: corpses of their fellow soldiers into the catapults to be 25 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: flung over Kaffa's walls. The ensuing infection and death inside 26 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: the city is widely considered the first case of biological 27 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: warfare in human history. On the brighter side, the Great 28 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Wars of the twentieth century forged developments in the storage 29 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: and transfusion of blood, ultrasound, skin grafting, plastic surgery, and 30 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: most significantly, the widespread use of penicillin to treat infection. 31 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: It has always been thus the human search for new 32 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: technologies to help maime and kill each other, as in 33 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: turn led to the applications that enrich us, heal us, 34 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: make our lives comfortable. It's a fine balance, more clearly 35 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: viewed through the prism of past time than in the 36 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: immediate fraA of the fight. But sometimes the consequences of 37 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: our innovation far surpasses our expectation. Sometimes, in grasping for 38 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the upper hand, we can be in danger of waging 39 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: war on reality itself. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm 40 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Richard McLean Smith. Few modern technologies are more commonly visualized 41 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: in military terms than radar. Countless movies and TV shows 42 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: have framed the tension of war through the repetitive blips 43 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: and in personal pixels of a radar screen. Radar stands 44 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: for radio detecting and ranging and in laypersons terms, it 45 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: works by transmitting electromagnetic waves which reflect back off the 46 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: surface of solid objects, allowing the receiver to pinpoint their 47 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: location and trajectory. In a century of war being fought 48 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: by ships, planes and submarines, it had obvious and crucial applications. 49 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: European radar experimentation began in Earnest in the nineteen thirties. 50 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: The first major breakthrough is attributed to British radio engineer 51 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: Sir Robert Watson Watt, who in June of nineteen thirty 52 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: five detected a British Air Force flying boat using wooden 53 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: radar antennants erected at Auford Nests on the southeast coast 54 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: of England. Meanwhile, in the United States, radar got off 55 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: to an inadvertent start. As early as nineteen twenty two, 56 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: two scientists stationed at the Naval Aircraft Radio Laboratory were 57 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: experimenting with communication wavelengths when they realized that a ship 58 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: on the Potomac River was interfering with their broadcasts. The 59 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: two men, Albert Taylor and Leo Young, prepared a memo 60 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: predicting that this phenomenon could be the key to long 61 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: range detection, but their request for further study was denied. 62 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: It was not until nineteen thirty that Tailor and Young 63 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: were able to patent the technology and propose it for 64 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: military use. Cut to nineteen forty three, and America had 65 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: been in the Second World War for two years. Their 66 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: navy was split in two, the bulk of the force 67 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: fighting Titanic battles in the Pacific, while in the Atlantic 68 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: their destroyers were being harried remorselessly by German U boats. 69 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Radar had become a double edged sword. Every advantage it 70 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: gave in locating the enemy posed the same threat to 71 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: America's own ships and airplanes. As such, avoiding radar detection 72 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: became as important as using it to detect the other side. Chaff, 73 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: a radar countermeasure in which thin strips of aluminum foil 74 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: or coated glass were dispersed into the air by planes 75 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: or ships, was invented as a kind of smoke screen 76 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: to prevent being precisely located radar Absorbent paints were also developed. Meanwhile, 77 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: the German Navy experimented with synthetic rubber tiling that reduced 78 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: the radar signatures of their submarines. At the same time, 79 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: down in the Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia during the autumn 80 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: of nineteen forty three, the US Navy were rumored to 81 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: be trying for something even wilder. At least that's what 82 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: one writer claim back in nineteen fifty five. Born in 83 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred, Maurice Jessup always had a fervent interest in 84 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: astronomy and astrophysics. He gained a master's in the latter 85 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty six, and though he abandoned his doc 86 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: doctorate studies without obtaining a PhD, he was nonetheless referred 87 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: to as doctor Jessop throughout his life, and despite working 88 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: most of that life outside academia, often in menial jobs, 89 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: he retained something of a reputation as a scientist, albeit 90 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: one with some off kilter interests. More scientifically still, he 91 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: is remembered as one of the earliest and most influential 92 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: voices in the field of euphology. Jessop's nineteen fifty five 93 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: book The Case for the UFO garnered him a lot 94 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: of attention in fourteen circles. Its a dense technical study, 95 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: quite at odds with the New Age tone that would 96 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: come to typify eupology in the following decades. In particular, 97 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Jessop was fascinated by the ability of apparent UFOs to 98 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: seemingly appear and disappear instantaneously, the phenomenon he attempted to 99 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: rationalize using Einstein's unified field theory. In its simplest terms, 100 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: Einstein's theory tries to reconcile the fundamental forces of the universe, 101 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: such as gravity and electromagnetism, under a single theoretical framework. 102 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: It's a complex, all encompassing aim, and though Einstein allegedly 103 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: published a version of it in a German journal in 104 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: the mid nineteen twenties, he is said to have withdrawn 105 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: his findings as incomplete. Nonetheless, Jessup thought the theory could 106 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: explain the impossible speed and distances that an intergalactic UFO 107 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: would need to arrive in our area of space time, 108 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and to behave as inexplicably as they were said to do. 109 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: These were groundbreaking ideas, though very niche, and Jessop's book 110 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and hypotheses may have faded into obscurity had it not 111 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: been for the letter he received shortly after publishing his 112 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: book book. It was toward the end of nineteen fifty 113 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: five when it arrived at Jessop's house bearing a Pennsylvania postmark. 114 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: It was written in a highly idiosyncratic style, using different 115 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: colored pencils and ink, and was full of random capitalization, 116 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: wildly erratic grammar, and even wilder claims. In it, the 117 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: author claimed to have personally studied under Einstein. He took 118 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Jessop to task for his misunderstanding of the unified field theory, 119 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: though he does allow that Jessop's theories pertaining to levitation 120 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: and anti gravity were close to correct, and that indeed 121 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: both processes had been used in the construction of certain 122 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: ancient monoliths such as the Pyramids of Gezer. It was 123 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: signed Carlos Miguel Alende. Jessup initially dismissed it as an 124 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: eccentric peace of fan mail, and being busy on the 125 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: lecture circuit at the time, he gave it little to 126 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: no thought over the next few weeks, but that would 127 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: not be the last word from signor Allende. While lecturing, 128 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Jessup would impress upon the public the need for serious 129 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: research into Einstein's unified theory. He was adamant that the 130 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: money and time spent on conventional rocket propulsion should be 131 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: diverted to research in gravity and anti gravity, and that 132 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the result would be economical and effective space travel within 133 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: the next decade. He repeatedly urged his audiences to contact 134 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: their political representatives about this redistribution. A few days later, 135 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: another letter landed on Jessup's welcome matt with that familiar 136 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania return address. Jessup's second letter from Alende arrived in 137 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: January nineteen fifty six. Despite bearing the same return address 138 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: as before, this one was written on letter headed paper 139 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: from a hotel in Gainesville, Texas. It began with a 140 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: reference to Jessop's plea that his audience write to their 141 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: representatives en mass about the importance of Einstein's work, but 142 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Alende politely suggested that such a campaign would be entirely unnecessary. 143 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: It seemed a Lende had been in the audience for 144 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Jessup's last lecture. It may interest you to know. Alende 145 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: wrote that Einstein was not so much influenced in his 146 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: retraction of that work by mathematics as he most assuredly 147 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: was by humantics, perhaps a misspelling of humanistics as a 148 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: Lee went on to claim Einstein had actually continued his 149 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: unified theory research in private, but was so horrified by 150 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: the implications, knowing what he knew of Man's general character, 151 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: that he never published his results. Thus, Alende wrote, we 152 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: are told today that the theory was incomplete. The truth, 153 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: according to Alende, was that Einstein destroyed his papers, but 154 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: not before passing on his discovery to a scientist named 155 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: Dr B. Russell. Some have suggested that this was a 156 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: reference to Bertrand Russell, the famed Welsh philosopher and co 157 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: author of the Russell Einstein Manifesto, which warned against the 158 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: proliferation of nuclear weapons. If so, Alende claimed that Russell 159 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: was just as anxious as Einstein about his findings of 160 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: the unified field theory, quoting the philosopher's assertion that man 161 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: is not ready for it and shan't be until after 162 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: World War III. From Russell, the research apparently wound its 163 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: way to a friend of Alende's named doctor Franklin Reno, 164 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: a scientist apparently stationed at the highly secretive US Naval 165 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Research and Development Unit. There at the urgency of naval authorities, 166 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: doctor Reno attempted to further Einstein's work. In Alende's words, 167 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: doctor Reno was tasked with a complete recheck of the theory, 168 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: with a view to any and every possible use of it, 169 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: if feasible in a very short time. He continued, the 170 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: results stand today as proof that the unified field theory 171 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: is to a certain extent correct. But beyond that certain extent, 172 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: no person in his right senses, or having any senses 173 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: at all, will ever more dare to go in bold capitals, 174 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: He's stressed, the Navy fears to use these results. Maurice 175 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Jessop understandably suspected the letters to be a hoax or 176 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: the product of a paranoid mind, but he was sufficiently 177 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: intrigued by the level of detail to write back, and 178 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: so he did with a request for more information. What 179 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Alende replied with was more strange and wild than Jessop 180 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: could possibly have imagined. It began with an attempt to 181 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: raid our Cloak, a destroyer sized battleship, a project apparently 182 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: led by the aforementioned doctor Reno and overseen by Rear 183 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Admiral Raws and Bennett, the chief of Naval research at 184 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the time. The key principle behind the the project was 185 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: to try to harness a strong magnetic field to distort 186 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: electromagnetic waves. In theory, if a ship could be surrounded 187 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: with a large enough magnetic field, the radar waves would 188 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: curve around it without reflecting back a signal or location. 189 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: The ship would be, to all intents and purposes, completely 190 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: invisible to radar. The test vessel was the USS Eldridge, 191 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a destroyer escort commissioned only months before. It was three 192 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: hundred and six feet long and weighed over twelve hundred tons. 193 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: The ship was named for an American hero, Lieutenant Commander 194 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: John Eldridge, Junior, who'd been shot down and killed during 195 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: an attack on a Japanese naval convoy at Guadalcanal. As 196 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: the story goes, the Eldridge's first test was attempted out 197 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: at sea on the morning of July twenty second, nineteen 198 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: forty three. It involved the Eldritch being fitted with several 199 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: very powerful magnetic generators known as Degausser's. Doctor Reno watched 200 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: on eagerly as the countdown to the test neared zero. 201 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: His hope was that when the Degaussas were turned on, 202 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: radar would be completely unable to identify the battleship. What 203 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: apparently happened next was something completely different, as Elende described it. 204 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: With the degaussers switched on and the electro magnetic force 205 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: steadily beginning to build, a green tinged haze emerged around 206 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: the ship, thickening with ever greater intensity, until the Eldritch 207 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: was completely obscured within it. And then the haze suddenly dissipated, 208 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: and the destroyer was nowhere to be seen. Where a 209 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: twelve hundred ton battleship had been minutes earlier, there seemed 210 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: to be nothing but the empty water and the horizon beyond. 211 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Only Doctor Reno did then notice something, a deep depression 212 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: in the surface of the sea. Displacing the water, but 213 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: no sight of the Eldridge itself. The scientists looked on 214 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: in amazement at their accomplishment. The Eldridge had not only 215 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: been rendered undetectable to radar, but had been made invisible 216 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: to the naked eye as well. Amazed at their finding, 217 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: the team ordered the degaussas to be switched off immediately. 218 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: The green haze returned, but this time, when it faded, 219 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: the Eldridge was once again visible, back as it had 220 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: been before, looking none the worse for its adventure. It 221 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: soon became clear that the same could not be said 222 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: for the crew. The so called Carlos Alende's letter detailed 223 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: the alleged impact of the experiment on the sailors of 224 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the HSS Eldridge. While on board, they had apparently been 225 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: able to see each other fully, but the ship was 226 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: invisible beneath them. Once redocked, they staggered ashore, dizzy, nauseated 227 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: and vomiting. Several were said to be raving and continued 228 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: to exhibit short lived but severe psychological disorders. But that 229 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: was only the beginning, as Alende went on to explain 230 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: on October twenty eighth, the Eldridge was then docked in 231 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: the Naval shipyard in Philadelphia. After such success in previous testing, 232 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: the Navy scientists were growing in confidence and were looking 233 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: at how to down scaled the degaussing technology for the 234 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: possible use on planes, tanks, and smaller vessels. With the 235 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: Eldridge now fitted with modified magnetic generators, once again, doctor 236 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: Reno ordered the test to begin as he watched on excitedly, 237 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: and once again the same hazy green shimmer gathered about 238 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: the vessel before thickening and dispersing, leaving the eldridge nowhere 239 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: to be seen. But this time something was different. The 240 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: water's surface where the vessel had been was completely flat 241 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: and undisturbed. The eldridge was no longer there. Two hundred 242 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: miles away to the south, according to Helende, at precisely 243 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: the same time the Eldridge disappeared, he was stationed aboard 244 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: the S. S. Andrew Fariseth in the naval dock at Norfolk, Virginia. 245 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: While on deck, he and his colleagues watched astonished as 246 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: a huge destroyer suddenly appeared in the dock before their eyes, 247 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: a vessel he later came to discover was supposedly the 248 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: h S. S. Eldridge. According to Alende, it was visible 249 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: for a good ten minutes before it disappeared again, returning, 250 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: as Alende later apparently found out, to the Naval shipyard 251 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. On the cusp of losing complete interest, Maurice 252 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Jessop read on as Alende did its best to substantiate 253 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: his extraordinary claims. He urged Jessop to check crew manifests 254 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: and names of key personnel who were supposedly aboard the 255 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Pharaseeth with him at the time, including chief mate Mowbray 256 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: and a deck hand named Richard Price, who he said 257 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: were both witnesses to the sudden appearance of the rogue ship. 258 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: This time, it seemed the electromagnetic experiment had not just 259 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: rendered the ship invisible, it had actively teleported the Eldridge 260 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: through space and time. And if the results for the 261 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: ship were more extreme, so are the tales of what 262 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: befell the crew. Over the years, retellings of the so 263 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: called Philadelphia Experiment have added increasingly grotesque details that the 264 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: ship returned with five men embedded into the fabric of it, 265 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: bonded with the metal at a molecular level, and screaming 266 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: in agony as they died. According to this new layer 267 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: of the legend, both ship and crew were dematerialized in 268 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: the act of teleportation and re materialized in a clumsy 269 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: blend of flesh and steel. It's an impressively horrific image, 270 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: but it appears nowhere in Carlos and Lende's letters. But 271 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Alende did detail a different kind of strangeness. According to him, 272 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: the men caught up in the Eldridge's final test fell 273 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: prey to a range of uncanny ailments that had left 274 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: several of them quote mad as hatters at the time 275 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: of writing, a full twelve years after the experiment. In 276 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: Alende's words, Ever since the experiment, those on board at 277 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: the time frequently went blank or got stuck. Going blank 278 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: meant to relapse into invisibility. Those who apparently experienced it 279 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: reported that it was not an especially unpleasant experience, and 280 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: that other than being invisible, all your senses and your 281 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: relationship to time remained normal throughout. Getting stuck, however, was 282 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: described as a hellish experience. Being stuck meant you couldn't 283 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: move of your own free will until other men inhabiting 284 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: the same magnetic field physically made contact with you. Men 285 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: who'd been aboard the Eldridge after the tests, would apparently 286 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: become both blank and stuck, leaving the poor soul paralyzed 287 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: and invisible to the only men able to free him 288 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: from his predicament. Such a sufferer would have to be 289 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: sought out by his crewmates, who had to feel around 290 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: the ship until they touched bare skin. Mostly, Alende wrote 291 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: it took only an hour or two to one sticker man, 292 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: but sometimes it took all day and night, and on 293 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: one chilling occasion, Alende described how it took six months 294 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: to get a man unfrozen. This he described as a 295 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: true or deep freeze. Those subjected to it, he said, 296 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: when stark raving mad. If the frieze lasted more than 297 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, quite how it would affect someone suffering 298 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: for six months is another thing Altogether. Allende closed the 299 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: second letter with a lament that there were very few 300 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: of the experiment's crew left alive. Most went insane, he claimed, 301 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: but three faced more extreme consequences. One man was said 302 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: to have walked through the wall of his quarters in 303 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the full sight of his wife and child, and was 304 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: never seen again. One crewman got stuck or froze and 305 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: somehow burst into flames. A fellow crewman, seeing his plight, 306 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: rushed to help, only to catch fire himself. In all capitals. 307 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: Alende stated that they burned for eighteen days. Allende made 308 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: the earnest plea that Maurice Jessop should desist immediately from 309 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: promoting any further study in Einstein's theory of the unified field. 310 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Do this bit of research, Alende insists that you should 311 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: choke on your own tongue when you remember what you 312 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: have appealed to be made law. As intrigued as Maurice 313 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: Jessup was by the strange communication, he was too scrupulous 314 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: to think the letter much more than the product of 315 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: a fantasist's mind, a conclusion backed up by a third 316 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: letter that arrived five months later. It was a response 317 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: to a request from Jessup that Carlos Alende supply him 318 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: with some hard evidence for his claims. Alende replied that 319 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: it was impossible due to the Navy's fervent interest in 320 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: keeping the Philadelphia experiment hushed up. Alende went on to 321 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: tell a tale of truth serums and hypnosis that seemed 322 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: to trip entirely into mania, before reiterating his fundamental claim 323 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: that the Navy had successfully transported thousands of tons of 324 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: battleship across hundreds of miles instantaneously. He suggested that such 325 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: technology would open up the space for future long distance exploration, 326 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: and closed by insisting that it was the Navy who 327 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: built your UFOs. In place of the name Carlos M. Alende, 328 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: the letter was signed simply carl Allen Maurice Jessop did 329 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: not respond. In August nineteen fifty five, several months before 330 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Jessop received his first letter from Alende or Alan, a 331 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: package arrived at the US Office of Naval Research for ONR. 332 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: It was addressed to an Admiral Firth, but found its 333 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: way into them of Major Darryl Ritter, the oenr's aeronautical 334 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: project officer. The Manila envelope was postmarked Seminole, Texas, and 335 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: was emblazoned with the words Happy Easter. When opened, a 336 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: heavily annotated copy of Jessup's The Case for the UFO 337 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: spilled out. Inside. The margins were crowned with notes written 338 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: in three different shades of blue ink, ostensibly representing a 339 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: three way debate about UFO propulsion and alien visitation. Much 340 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: of the scribbled marginalia referred to mysterious disappearances in the 341 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: so called Bermuda Triangle. As it happens over the years, 342 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: many strange encounters in the triangle have referenced a similar 343 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: greenish cloud as that which is often said to have 344 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: enveloped the USS Eldridge shortly before its supposed disappearances. Rather 345 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: than discarding the book as would be expected, Major Ritter 346 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: shared it with Commander George Hoover, the ONR's Special project officer. 347 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: Hoover was deeply involved in Project Vanguard, the US attempt 348 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: to place the first American satellite in space. It's hard 349 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: to understand why such busy senior officers devoted time to 350 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: such an outlandish document, but some two years later they 351 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: invited Morris Jessop into the ONR's Washington office to examine 352 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: the book. Jessop recognized the furious blue scribbles immediately. He 353 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: told the ONR about the crazy letters he'd received from 354 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Carlos Alende, expecting that to be the end of the matter. Instead, 355 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: the ONR asked to see them. After assessing the letters, 356 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: a representative from the ONR informed Jessop that they were 357 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: taking the issue so seriously they would re print a 358 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: version of his book, complete with Carlos Alende's annotations, to 359 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: be disseminated among senior officers and scientists. As incredible as 360 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: it sounds, whether you believe Carlos Alende or carl Allen's 361 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: story or not, research has revealed representatives that the ONR 362 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: did indeed order new copies of Jessop's book, complete with 363 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Alende's annotations. They were printed by the Varro Manufacturing Company 364 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: based in Texas, while the typing was performed by a 365 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Miss Michelle Dunn from a branch of the company known 366 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: as Military Assistance. One hundred and twenty seven copies were made. 367 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Maurice Jessup was confused in the extreme why would the 368 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Navy go to such trouble to pursue what he'd assumed 369 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: were crackpot Can conspiracies. As nineteen fifty eight began, he 370 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: found himself disturbed by the implications. Jessop's friends felt he 371 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: was becoming increasingly despondent, even more so when a series 372 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: of prospective books were rejected by his publisher and then 373 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: his marriage broke down too. On Halloween nineteen fifty eight, 374 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Jessop was in New York at a party, held in 375 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: the home of his friend Ivan Sanderson, a noted naturalist 376 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: and early proponent of cryptozoology. Late in the evening, a 377 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: melancholic Jessop asked Sanderson and a few other close friends 378 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: to retire to the study. There, he presented his friends 379 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: with yet another version of the case for the UFO. 380 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: This one contained all of the Lende's notes, but also 381 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: a new set of annotations of Jessop's own responses and 382 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 1: further research. Jessop asked with great sincerity that they read it, 383 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: but then lock it up safe in case anything should 384 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: happen to him. Jessup left New York to return to 385 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Indiana the next day, but when he failed to show up, 386 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: both friends and its publisher became concerned. It was six 387 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: weeks later, in mid December when they got word that 388 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: Jessop had been involved in a car crash in Florida, 389 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: where he had property. Though little was heard from him 390 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: in the months after, it seems, with his recovery proving 391 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: a slow and arduous process, Jessop became increasingly withdrawn. In 392 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: April nineteen fifty nine, a station wagon was found parked 393 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: on the side of a road in Dade County, Park 394 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: not far from Jessop's Florida home. Its windows were fogged 395 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: up owing to the hose pipe that had been connected 396 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: to the exhaust and fed into the car through a 397 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: barely open window. Inside was an unconscious Morris Jessop, barely breathing. 398 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Efforts to resuscitate him failed, and he died on the 399 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: way to the hospital. There are many who think that 400 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: his death was not suicide, that just as the so 401 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: called Carlos Alende had warned that perhaps he'd come too 402 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: close to a truth the naval authorities didn't want in 403 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: the public domain. Ivan Sanderson, for one, was adamant that 404 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: directly or indirectly the Elende letters and what led to 405 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Jessop's eventual demise. Sanderson himself died in nineteen seventy three, 406 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: having never revealed what Jessop had written in his final manuscript, 407 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: and nor did he ever reveal the names of the 408 00:32:53,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: other people to whom Jessop had entrusted his work. 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