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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm Kaylee Shore, and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say. It's all good having questions, yes, so I'm soon.

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Speaker 2: Said now tear it out you.

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Speaker 1: So before I say anything, I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for your reaction and support to the

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Speaker 1: last episode I did. I came out as queer. I'm

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Speaker 1: very very excited about it. I really just felt so

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Speaker 1: much love and support, and also a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were like I.

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Speaker 1: So a little Yeah, it was really amazing, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just very thankful to have h you know, supporters who

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Speaker 1: are so kind and open minded. And also a lot

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Speaker 1: of y'all are gay too, so it's it feels so

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Speaker 1: good to have that off my chest. I can't even

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Speaker 1: explain it. I didn't know how good it would feel.

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Speaker 1: So in this week's episode, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: something that's been on my mind a lot, and it

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Speaker 1: is anxiety and intuition, and what is the difference between

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Speaker 1: the two. How do you know if that feeling you

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Speaker 1: have is your anxiety making you stressed out for no reason,

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Speaker 1: or if it's your intuition telling you to run. And

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Speaker 1: I have had to work so hard on distinguishing these things.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I used to always be really good

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Speaker 1: I went through some stuff with people, like this friend

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Speaker 1: group breakup I had two years ago, I really really

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Speaker 1: started to question myself. And I went in to see

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Speaker 1: my new therapist a couple months ago. I started with

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Speaker 1: her in January, and I sat down and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I have no grasp on reality whatsoever. I don't know

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Speaker 1: like two sessions later, she's like, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you say that, because you seem so grounded. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's what I think, But then I like second guess

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Speaker 1: past four months, we've been working on me distinguishing those

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Speaker 1: two feelings, and it turns out that more often than not,

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Speaker 1: it's my intuition. And I don't really like to create

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Speaker 1: nightmare scenarios where they don't already exist, and anxiety is

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Speaker 1: like definitely out of your control, and I deal with

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Speaker 1: much more confident and so much more well equipped to

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Speaker 1: make decisions about my career and with who I led

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Speaker 1: in my life, and also like knowing when someone's lying,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk a lot about that in this episode.

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Speaker 1: So for starters, the definition of intuition is the ability

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Speaker 1: to understand instinctively without the need for conscious reasoning, and

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Speaker 1: then the definition of anxiety is feeling of manic worry, nervousness, unease.

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Speaker 2: And dread. So those definitely aren't the same thing at all.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, people use like nervous with

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Speaker 1: Anxiety is kind of all consuming, feels like you're being

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Speaker 1: I think it's easier to push down your intuition than

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Speaker 1: That anxiety and be like, Okay, I'm gonna just go

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Speaker 1: it's still just gonna pop up. Like in my last relationship,

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Speaker 1: thankfully everything turned out okay, but it definitely went on

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Speaker 1: which situations were anxiety and which ones were intuition. I

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Speaker 2: For everybody, but I feel like this is relatable for

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Speaker 1: But anxiety is when you're trying to talk yourself into

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Speaker 1: So it's like you have this feeling and anxiety you're

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Speaker 2: And then intuition, you have this kind of deep sense.

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Speaker 1: and like figuring out the difference between the two.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good way to tell if someone's lying.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we are back, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about anxiety and intuition and

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Speaker 1: how it relates to detecting lies and protecting yourself from

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Speaker 1: liars and narcissistic energy and all that stuff. Unfortunately, no

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Speaker 1: matter how much you don't want to believe it, there

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Speaker 1: are shitty people on the planet who are gonna lie

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean like assuming everyone's going to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's just like this quote that I think about a lot,

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Speaker 1: and it's when someone shows you who they are, believe

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Speaker 1: Like we all have this innate sense of how to

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Speaker 1: just learning when it's the compass talking and when it's

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Speaker 1: People typically know when other people are lying, and you'll

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Speaker 1: I would like to preface and say that this is

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Speaker 2: And so I was just like looking at the evidence

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Speaker 1: much for listening. I'm Kaylie Shure. This is too much

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Speaker 2: So I'll go soon. Now tear it out you