Speaker 1: Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why why? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, we
Speaker 1: let less culture. Rista's calling. I have come in today
Speaker 1: and said, we need to talk topical. We need to
Speaker 1: talk topical. We just got to talk about what's going
Speaker 1: on because we've been muzzled in some way. We haven't
Speaker 1: been able to talk about things as they happen. Contemporanious
Speaker 1: el and you know that my least favorite thing is
Speaker 1: to feel restricted. I have to be free. That is
Speaker 1: your least favorite. Do you want to talk about? There's
Speaker 1: so much to talk about. I just feel as if
Speaker 1: we continue to record these episodes and ignore the fact
Speaker 1: that we're in the Lover era, we just completely ignore
Speaker 1: that we're in the era. And they the readers need
Speaker 1: our takes. They need our takes on Lover. So can
Speaker 1: you just quickly give your review you as if you
Speaker 1: are Pitchfork. We're recording this on August. We're one week
Speaker 1: into Lover. Into Lover. It's it's so it's so addle
Speaker 1: of the road. Intentionally, it's so like she didn't she
Speaker 1: didn't want to make an actual sonic choice. Wow, you
Speaker 1: believe this was intentional for her to be Medio Curve.
Speaker 1: It's her first it's her first album for her new
Speaker 1: for her new label, Unrested. She doesn't like to fill
Speaker 1: that way either. Sure, no, but I'm saying, like, like
Speaker 1: it's strategic where it's like it's it's it's it's brilliant,
Speaker 1: like it's she she did what she had to do.
Speaker 1: She did what she had to do, and she's about
Speaker 1: to show the other girls what they should have did.
Speaker 1: She she it's the album with her most songs. It's
Speaker 1: like she is like, really, why not, Like here's something
Speaker 1: for everybody. Here's like me like wearing all my hands
Speaker 1: I've worn throughout my career. Here's here's a high school song,
Speaker 1: Here's here's a I'm about to get railed songs. She's
Speaker 1: certainly I'm about love it. I love it too. I
Speaker 1: know I'm saying it's a great album, but it's like
Speaker 1: intentionally it was middle of the road, And I think
Speaker 1: I think she didn't want to like take two big,
Speaker 1: Like the swings aren't too big, except for the ones
Speaker 1: that are so huge that they're crazy. Like me, Like
Speaker 1: you're like, why so this was a great review on
Speaker 1: your part of the strategy behind her album and I
Speaker 1: will now talk about the music they're in. Um, I
Speaker 1: think that half the album is good. I think the
Speaker 1: first half of it is like, oh yes, And I
Speaker 1: think there are some true bops on this such as
Speaker 1: say with Me. I think he knows and we love
Speaker 1: that song, and we love the bridge. The bridge is great,
Speaker 1: and I'm a bridge queen and I do love a
Speaker 1: good bridge, and that song has a good bridge. Also
Speaker 1: love Lover, I think that's a classic. Um, I Forgot
Speaker 1: that You existed is like a little bit bitch and
Speaker 1: the way that I do appreciate. And then I believe
Speaker 1: that the album hits its midpoint and then just completely
Speaker 1: runs out of gas towards where the end. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where towards the end, I'm like, it's nice to have
Speaker 1: a friend. Truly, the Big Little Eyes theme song slaps
Speaker 1: harder than that. So if I heard the Big Little
Speaker 1: Eyes theme song in the club, like I'll be moving
Speaker 1: around it's nice to have a friend, I'm up taking
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, I but I appreciate this album and
Speaker 1: it's sort of like romantic sounds. I like. I like
Speaker 1: that she's back in her comfortable press self, like her media,
Speaker 1: her media blitz, self she's back to being her media
Speaker 1: trans sell I love and she's and she what a
Speaker 1: natural she's, she's she can do it. Good for her,
Speaker 1: good for her anyway. And we should also talk about
Speaker 1: one more topical thing, which is we are in the
Speaker 1: Dunce to song. We're in the Dunce Tossan. This is
Speaker 1: the Dunce Disans. That is the renaissance of Kirsten Dunn.
Speaker 1: We you and I both watched separately. Do we want
Speaker 1: to take credit for it? No? No, no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no like this, we're
Speaker 1: not kid furing. Crystal West's like out here being like
Speaker 1: get Missy Elliott on the v M as the Vanguard Award,
Speaker 1: like like and Missy Elliott thanks them. I saw that
Speaker 1: she did that. That was very cool. For the reason
Speaker 1: that's so cool. I I don't think we're that for Kirsten.
Speaker 1: I do um and Kirston doesn't know we exist, so
Speaker 1: she I actually you know what she wants if you
Speaker 1: twict she's connected because no, no, there her husband's Jesse Plemmons.
Speaker 1: We love that there's there's like three degrees of separation.
Speaker 1: But like we're not like, we're not going to be
Speaker 1: like Kirston's a friend. Here's what I'm and say that
Speaker 1: I don't We're not going to say she's a friend
Speaker 1: of ours, and I don't think she'll ever speak to me.
Speaker 1: But I do think that if she heard the energy
Speaker 1: with which we speak of her, and this question of
Speaker 1: of it, this was recorded months before you know her
Speaker 1: her begin so we should say that I'm becoming a
Speaker 1: god in Central Florida. Is wacko wacko show, but like
Speaker 1: truly so so great, and like she turns, she turns
Speaker 1: great performances. And but there's some piece of vulture about
Speaker 1: how this is authentically Floridian and which I love. She
Speaker 1: fucking spoiler alert skins a bunch of gators in the
Speaker 1: second episode, like you see her like here, no stunt,
Speaker 1: dumb like, no double like it's her with a fucking knife,
Speaker 1: like cutting into what I assumed to be a real gator,
Speaker 1: because there's no the props department is going to make
Speaker 1: a fake gator with meat. She pulls. She peels back
Speaker 1: to the scales and takes the meat out and refrigerate.
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing. You've been really
Speaker 1: rude to props departments worldwide. I think that props department,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually I'm working very closely with the props
Speaker 1: department right now with over. His name is Jimmy, and
Speaker 1: his and his first props assistant is Alec, and they're
Speaker 1: both wonderful. Well, I'm happy that you called him out
Speaker 1: so that I can buy by name and Jimmy and
Speaker 1: Alec apologize for what has been an assault on their
Speaker 1: industry here today, because to act like that couldn't have
Speaker 1: been a propagator is really ridiculous and sad tragic. They're
Speaker 1: gonna build a prop gator out of like the budget
Speaker 1: resident and meat. No, I think it could be achieved
Speaker 1: with plaster and paint and hard working people and talented
Speaker 1: people that go to school for that and they study
Speaker 1: it by trade how to do things like that, And
Speaker 1: so you're disgusting. Were really dumb and one of the
Speaker 1: stupidest personally. Well that's fine because because I don't really
Speaker 1: actually trust your barometer of what's dumb anymore. You said this,
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful show. You were gonna say you I
Speaker 1: was you were gonna I'm supposed to remind you to
Speaker 1: remind me about something. Um, Yes, I want you to
Speaker 1: tell the readers really quickly. And this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a really good intro into having our guests because she
Speaker 1: is a fashion icon and a style icon. Tell us
Speaker 1: about your fall fashion that yeah, what you think is
Speaker 1: going to take off? We cooked dinner last night and
Speaker 1: Bowen told me about his new um sort of sort
Speaker 1: of like my edit, my edit for fall. Here we go,
Speaker 1: Here we go, bitch all black, all black, basics, black shirt,
Speaker 1: black pants, block shorts, even good so far, um, here
Speaker 1: we go. And then this is where it starts to
Speaker 1: get starts to get a little starts to get a
Speaker 1: little on becoming a guy in Central Florida. Thick thick,
Speaker 1: thick black sneaks, maybe even a nice like, maybe even like.
Speaker 1: And she makes these fun like double sold and can
Speaker 1: afford design a gap in between. I haven't bought it yet.
Speaker 1: Well I don't think it much money. And then stop
Speaker 1: stop this as cool as goal said, stop stigmatizing wealth. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I so that Tom Store and Matt Rodgers the
Speaker 1: host of last here with Tom herself, and then here's
Speaker 1: here's here's the fun part. Here's the edit. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy climbing gear, so a climbing harness, a lower climbing harness.
Speaker 1: Our guest is not snapping even like like fucking nylon cords, buckles, carabineers,
Speaker 1: you are fed up? Yes, no, our guest loves it.
Speaker 1: And our guess is literally, I'm walking down the damn
Speaker 1: I'm stopping the damn streets of this city in my
Speaker 1: climbing gear. Isn't that so funny? I think if anyone
Speaker 1: could do what you could, why not? And because listen,
Speaker 1: if top harnesses have taken off in such a way,
Speaker 1: who could have seen that coming? They're still room for
Speaker 1: the top harnesses to be pushed a little bit, because
Speaker 1: you could do like climbing. Climbing harnesses are so fun
Speaker 1: and stupid. They're like it's not like piping, but it's
Speaker 1: just like a thick cord with carabaners. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I actually I listen, if anyone could do it, it's
Speaker 1: going to be you. I'm gonna try, and I'm gonna be,
Speaker 1: you know, ridiculed in um in the square. But we'll
Speaker 1: see who hasn't been ridiculed in the square. He's been
Speaker 1: celebrated in the square and worldwide, worldwide. It's actually our guest.
Speaker 1: It's our guest. Oh my god, I mean, this actually
Speaker 1: is actually I'm going to call it a historic episode
Speaker 1: of lost culture. Historic. She God has given so much,
Speaker 1: I made so much, has given so much, will continue
Speaker 1: to She's so fucking cool, one of the coolest. And
Speaker 1: can I actually can I ask you a question? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you remember the cultural movement that was brought city?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, bitch, I I truly I could cry.
Speaker 1: I could, And you know what, I actually wept during
Speaker 1: the Finale'll be I'll be brave and say it because
Speaker 1: that reminded me of us and they and they and
Speaker 1: I did. I cried in front of all my colleagues.
Speaker 1: Where did you watch this with the other? Two room
Speaker 1: watched it together and then I cried and you cried?
Speaker 1: I mean, and no one understood, like like like the
Speaker 1: like the modern class seek, the modern two hander sitcom
Speaker 1: do life, Oh my god. But truly like watching them
Speaker 1: like separate from each other and they were just trying episode,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so thick, Like I felt
Speaker 1: it in my loins and my p not come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on. So here's she's here,
Speaker 1: and my pepe feel good, feel be good When I
Speaker 1: think about the fact that she's here and Also, there's
Speaker 1: a fucking Amazon special on its damn way and the
Speaker 1: title is Bleak but True Bleak, What True Planet is burning?
Speaker 1: Holy fun, Holy fuck. So watch out for that in January.
Speaker 1: But we're going to talk to her. We're so excited.
Speaker 1: Please welcome into your ears. God a lot of glazer.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I'm like, my my soul is coming. Multiple
Speaker 1: came thing. Imagine. That's always the thing too lately Now
Speaker 1: with sex, it's like, after you come, how can you
Speaker 1: expect people just they'll be into it? Sometimes the chemistry
Speaker 1: is just right, the chemistry is right, and you want
Speaker 1: to keep going. Yeah, truly, how are which I already
Speaker 1: asked you once you know? And I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what that's wait? Can I can I respond to
Speaker 1: a couple of y okay, I am such a I'm
Speaker 1: here and I'm like, you know how you like when
Speaker 1: you do stand up, you're like, you get off the stage,
Speaker 1: You're like, no, that was pretty good. And then you
Speaker 1: watch and you're like, who doesn't know what comedy is?
Speaker 1: And you just watch and you hate or whatever. I
Speaker 1: was like, I literally don't know culture. Culture. You guys
Speaker 1: are um. You guys are powerful um warlocks of culture
Speaker 1: identifier sorceresses. But well, I guess I'm feeling this is
Speaker 1: my particular like mask energy y'all are serving is my
Speaker 1: my vibe of mask energy. And so I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is like you are the warlike to my witch. But
Speaker 1: I absolutely the reason to me that masculine is complete
Speaker 1: is because you are sorceresses. Absolutely, and we're able to say,
Speaker 1: and you know, that's really drag because I could walk
Speaker 1: out of the house being a sorceress one day, I
Speaker 1: could come back later that day being a full warlocks, right,
Speaker 1: and that's my that's my I'm entitled to that. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry human. Right, Hello, I can walk around identifying
Speaker 1: as a damn druid the night, but then I walked
Speaker 1: into it, into the forest, and I say, I'm a
Speaker 1: dry ad. Do we know the differences druid and dry
Speaker 1: We know for the for the readers, it's, um, a
Speaker 1: druid is like, let's let's let's it's it's it's binary.
Speaker 1: It's okay. So I'm like, I don't know culture. I'm not,
Speaker 1: I don't know culture whatever. Um, but you guys are
Speaker 1: amazing at it. Literally is lover Miley, it is name
Speaker 1: and I know and I was like, I think, but
Speaker 1: I do do. It's so crazy to me. That's how
Speaker 1: you know we're in a hashtag media bubble is that
Speaker 1: no one else gives a shit about what we care about. Constantly,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tracy, Producer hsp wait HSPT HSPT Senior Producer.
Speaker 1: Tracy has brought us some coffees and can you say
Speaker 1: that they only had all no, no no, are you
Speaker 1: a Plaine croissant from the deli? But Tracy, so that's no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I was so chill about it. You
Speaker 1: guys can vouch for this. I was like, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, HSPT. No, I would love it. Um. I
Speaker 1: was just like, I would love a pastry from the
Speaker 1: coffee shop. If they it's only chocolate stuff, I don't
Speaker 1: want it. She went to the damn bow day. She
Speaker 1: went to the damn Bodag love chrissant in the bag
Speaker 1: and I actually think you should eat it because sound
Speaker 1: effects wise, it's hilarious. Oh my gosh, the prop fit.
Speaker 1: And then also, okay, so I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. I guess I don't really know Taylor Swift stuff.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine, are you guys, obsessed. Well, we
Speaker 1: have such complicated relationships with her. We have a complicated
Speaker 1: relationship that includes love. Yes, that includes us literally boycotting
Speaker 1: her music because she didn't end also seeing her twice live,
Speaker 1: so we're literally her music how then just not listening.
Speaker 1: Not right, okay, not truly. There was like a year
Speaker 1: and a half where I just was like, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't. Look. We made a conscious decision when she
Speaker 1: was sorry but violence during the election week, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're she was being used as a neo Nazi symbol,
Speaker 1: like a white supremacist symbol, and yeah, I mean this
Speaker 1: is like what you're referring to. But I'm like you
Speaker 1: you look like it. Yeah, you look like a Nazis wife.
Speaker 1: So you have to say that you're not right. So
Speaker 1: the thing is and it's weird now because like the
Speaker 1: one thing that's like right now, the focus has been
Speaker 1: very on her new image and whatnot, but like in
Speaker 1: her interviews, which is which is like um, queer ally okay,
Speaker 1: but also positive. So it's a complicated position we find
Speaker 1: ourselves in as queers and queer allies because it's like
Speaker 1: anytime anyone steps forward and it is like I am
Speaker 1: your ally, and I met her advocating for you, and
Speaker 1: she she has the petition and everything, and she's very
Speaker 1: kind of like active and advancing our rights. But here's
Speaker 1: the rub I have with it all because she said
Speaker 1: she acts like she didn't realize that she wasn't doing enough.
Speaker 1: But it's like, how could you not realize? But she's
Speaker 1: like the model white woman in that way, like even
Speaker 1: if she did realize, like her narrative can support that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because she is like the woman. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions, So what is it
Speaker 1: that you like her songs? And I literally don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: for me at least anything for you too, we can explain.
Speaker 1: I think you and I are able to like really
Speaker 1: peel back like the writer Earle like she is. She's
Speaker 1: a songwriter. She's a very very good undeniably good and
Speaker 1: you feel that, and it's it's that's her. She's write.
Speaker 1: She writes all her songs. I literally like kind of
Speaker 1: didn't know. I guess they did, but it's like right,
Speaker 1: she writes all her songs. She just has like like
Speaker 1: I've listened to like these fucking switched on pop podcasts
Speaker 1: like where they dig into the songwriting with her stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, yeah, she's like doing like she's
Speaker 1: like intentionally like employing these things of like you know,
Speaker 1: declamation or whatever that the songwriting terms, like the phrasing
Speaker 1: all that. It's like, but what are you talking about,
Speaker 1: like the like verbal math or the melody the structures.
Speaker 1: She's like, she's pretty like she's kind of a chameleon
Speaker 1: in that way where she can like do you like,
Speaker 1: she can do like a stadium rock YouTube song at
Speaker 1: the start of her I've read, or she can do
Speaker 1: like a law adult ray songs. She can do a
Speaker 1: hind like, she can like do like we're all these
Speaker 1: just yeah. I would say she's an excellent communicator with
Speaker 1: her music. So when you're listening to her music, the
Speaker 1: messages are like so clear and so for example, for example,
Speaker 1: here is an example of a really good Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: song that like fucking nailed her fan base and everyone
Speaker 1: generational generationally that was listening to it, the song you
Speaker 1: Belong with Me. So she this is like long ago
Speaker 1: her Fearless album, which is her first album that won
Speaker 1: the Grammy for Album of the Year, and it was
Speaker 1: like while she was still doing country music. And this
Speaker 1: is like her first like pop crossover kind of hit,
Speaker 1: which was it's about this girl who's like the best
Speaker 1: friend of a guy and he doesn't see her. He
Speaker 1: likes this other girl and she's like the typical cheerleader
Speaker 1: and she's kind of the girl who wears like baggy
Speaker 1: T shirts and like whatever is she actually this girl?
Speaker 1: We don't know, but she communicates being that girl very
Speaker 1: well with these following words. You're on the phone with
Speaker 1: your girlfriend. She's upset, she's going off about something that
Speaker 1: you said. She doesn't get your h I do. And
Speaker 1: in those words, it's like we get it, we get
Speaker 1: exactly what's happening. And then the chorus is fucking big
Speaker 1: because you can see it. I'm the one who want
Speaker 1: to stands You've been wrong, so I can't you see
Speaker 1: he you belong with me? He belong with me. And
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm there, yeah, and I do know that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also you know, like as you're talking about him,
Speaker 1: like right, she like I mean crazy that she's a songwriter,
Speaker 1: which is like Dolly pardon you know, like and like
Speaker 1: also like the country crossover I didn't pay attention to
Speaker 1: do she like makes like her, Like a picture of
Speaker 1: her makes my asshole clenched. Yeah, it's so it's nothing
Speaker 1: about it is subtle, and nothing about her is like nuanced.
Speaker 1: I mean it's nuanced, but nothing about her is like gray.
Speaker 1: It's so like I'm here, you look at her and
Speaker 1: you look into the face of capitalism. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm honestly like I get no sense
Speaker 1: of the desire for sex from her, yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: that you know, it's one thing to be a sexual,
Speaker 1: like um, consciously a sexual, and you're like, this is
Speaker 1: I don't even honestly, I don't have any sexual friends.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, I'm like I get it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like her, I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's she's like it scares me to picture her fucking then,
Speaker 1: like sucking a dick, or like rights so scary. You've
Speaker 1: never gotten a sense of who she really was as
Speaker 1: a person because it was so impenetrably marketed and like
Speaker 1: so far away, so that when she didn't say anything
Speaker 1: during the election, it was like, fuck, like you really are,
Speaker 1: like this created very far removed thing from us, and
Speaker 1: for you to have marketing yourself all along as like
Speaker 1: I'm the girl next door and we are best friends.
Speaker 1: Feels weird for you to not have our back now
Speaker 1: now she's here and she kind of says she does,
Speaker 1: and I think she has seen your point about the
Speaker 1: sort of a sexuality of her, because she'd be singing
Speaker 1: about sucking now, she'd be sinking about sucking. Now. My
Speaker 1: whole thing is during the election is and this is
Speaker 1: what I just said a bunch of times, is that
Speaker 1: like she was just selectively worke. It's not that she
Speaker 1: was fake work, that she was selectively being like and
Speaker 1: she was like the like the model for white feminism
Speaker 1: for a time when that was like when that little
Speaker 1: buzzword was in the conversation, but she was like she
Speaker 1: was like speaking out against sexual assault in this way
Speaker 1: that was like empowering and she was like speaking as
Speaker 1: a victim of it and like cool. But then like
Speaker 1: for you to like not say a fucking word during
Speaker 1: graded by the pussy like insane, insane rough, So that
Speaker 1: that's rough, and it's it feels like you know what
Speaker 1: it's like, it wouldn't so now not to not to
Speaker 1: put the onus on a one to even speak on it,
Speaker 1: but like, but I just think that plase, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's kind of speak up, speak up, But I appreciate that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing as though it's kind of like now she
Speaker 1: has been asked about why she was silent, and she
Speaker 1: has an answer for it. Have you heard this? So
Speaker 1: she says that, So it was right after the Kanye
Speaker 1: Kim thing when they kind of like called her out
Speaker 1: for like being fake or whatever, and I'm almost calling
Speaker 1: her a snake and like like it was like this
Speaker 1: weird thing where they were like, tell her, what did
Speaker 1: the snake cancel Taylor cancel cut her? And so she
Speaker 1: was very much like felt persecuted by everyone, and she
Speaker 1: saw Trump, who she says now was quote weaponizing the
Speaker 1: celebrity endorsement and saying, these liberal people, look, you have
Speaker 1: Beyonce on stage and Jay Z for Hillary. They don't
Speaker 1: care about you. You know, I care about you. Like
Speaker 1: he was kind of really tricked lower class people and
Speaker 1: even middle class people into thinking that, you know, Hillary
Speaker 1: and Barack work clinking wine glasses in the sky, and
Speaker 1: they could never know you because their friends with Beyonce.
Speaker 1: And her excuse for not speaking up now is she
Speaker 1: saw that and thought they'll look at me and Hillary
Speaker 1: next to each other, and think, look at those two
Speaker 1: nasty women, look at those snakes, look at those people
Speaker 1: who could never identify with me, And she didn't want
Speaker 1: to hurt the situation. Which, what say you about that?
Speaker 1: Mickey mass marketing wise genius genius genius genius statement, Wow, terrifying.
Speaker 1: I hope she goes in the right direction. Okay, I
Speaker 1: I think she's mean and it's going to be like
Speaker 1: unproductive feminism wise. Teeth teeth do we do we like them?
Speaker 1: What's Taylor Swift's teeth? Okay? I think they're probably fucking
Speaker 1: blinding white, But I mean, are they faith? But no,
Speaker 1: it's almost like they rise beyond the tooth shell there
Speaker 1: because I'm a little underbyte boy, and like I get
Speaker 1: I get what. She doesn't have an overbite, but I
Speaker 1: think she they're not big because what she does have
Speaker 1: is if she smiles too big, her incisors are way
Speaker 1: up here and you're like, oh, whoa, those are your
Speaker 1: real teeth and like they're heal and I think which
Speaker 1: means that they're all her real teeth. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Oh my god, I never thought Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: when I it's like, um, I guess like I do
Speaker 1: you guys free Delisted. I just like by habit, every
Speaker 1: time I want to like kill myself during working our escape,
Speaker 1: I go to Delisted and that just someone was like,
Speaker 1: when Taylor, it's a picture of her smiling, and I
Speaker 1: would say, she's done a really good job of making
Speaker 1: her teeth like not something I focused on where else,
Speaker 1: Like in the past, we've seen certain celebrities come out
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, what's up with the teeth, like
Speaker 1: as in like you know, Hillary Duff circa two thousand
Speaker 1: three where those veneers got put in and you were like, okay,
Speaker 1: those are absolutely huge, and then she's now figured it
Speaker 1: out and as Lizzie MacGuire again and we love that
Speaker 1: and we love that. But anyway, teeth in terms of Taylor,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know. I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: out here saying that, UM just just to like quell
Speaker 1: the truths, Like it's it's not that I think they're
Speaker 1: well the anything else you want to address. UM. I also, okay,
Speaker 1: the other thing was just Kirsten Dunce, she like would
Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: like a story that once Abby and I were at
Speaker 1: south By Southwest for Broad City, but what was the deal? Jesus, Well,
Speaker 1: she may be there for far Ago or something. I
Speaker 1: think so. And she was with Jesse Lemons and they
Speaker 1: liked Broad City and they were like, you know, they
Speaker 1: were so funny. They were like rowdy country kids and
Speaker 1: they were like drunk and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I think it was like still
Speaker 1: they were like quiet about their and um, it was funny.
Speaker 1: They were just yeah, you know, drunk, and like I
Speaker 1: think I wasn't. I don't like drank a ton. I
Speaker 1: smoke more. So you know when you're like in that
Speaker 1: point where it's like, you know, I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was like I'm not at the same level. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but when someone like that says they like what you do?
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go? You know where? And um,
Speaker 1: it was cool. We just like set in a hotel
Speaker 1: room and they were like really like buzzed. I've heard
Speaker 1: she's like a very cool person. Yeah, she was really
Speaker 1: like dorky. And I was like almost like like in
Speaker 1: this like delicious, charming, sexy way, and it was almost like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like how cute she is in Jumanji. You're like,
Speaker 1: that's my friend and I have a crush on her
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, and like she's so cute,
Speaker 1: but like also like she's also my friend, like she's
Speaker 1: does like that, like it's still cool, you know, like
Speaker 1: she was really cute and um, Jesse was cool too cool,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even have I don't know, but that No,
Speaker 1: that's that's great. I love that. And I'm not like, um,
Speaker 1: I think like she would love Dunsta songs. I'm like
Speaker 1: that would make them feel so cool and relevant because
Speaker 1: I'm like also, you guys, like like the whole narrative
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting from you about like the we've
Speaker 1: been here since the beginning, even when you say Jumanji
Speaker 1: like truly, Like Here's the thing about Kirston too, is
Speaker 1: that in every one of her performance, not only are
Speaker 1: they really good, but is like an iconic moment. And
Speaker 1: each every one of her performances and her iconic moment.
Speaker 1: And when they're in the supermarket and the evil Hunter
Speaker 1: is like looking for them, she grabs the cashier's price gun,
Speaker 1: points it in his eyes and goes price check yes,
Speaker 1: and he goes because the light has gotten his in
Speaker 1: his eyes and she's blinded him and she gets away
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're so good. And also one more
Speaker 1: in fact, I'll go around and we'll say an iconic moment.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, like I don't have I
Speaker 1: want to I want to feed you and I want
Speaker 1: you to go okay, So can I tell you one please?
Speaker 1: Have you seen Bringing On? You have iconic toothbrushing? Remember
Speaker 1: we all remember they're just brushing their teeth. Her and
Speaker 1: Jess Brack kind of like getting wet because they're like
Speaker 1: brushing that freaking yes, and it was so hot teens.
Speaker 1: He was so hot at that time. He was so
Speaker 1: hot at that time. And then he became even more
Speaker 1: hot in the movie swim Fan, which we love, and
Speaker 1: um wait, also you can't ever forget from bringing On.
Speaker 1: Miss Eliza Douchku really just thinking about because she talked
Speaker 1: about being like assaulted. Yes, she recently, and I just said, like, oh,
Speaker 1: baby Brandon, she she's we actually we interviewed her at
Speaker 1: was it Tribeca? It was she was so cool but
Speaker 1: were sex this is but she was with her brother
Speaker 1: and they had like shot a documentary about something there
Speaker 1: was some queer asuse. It wasn't a documentary. It was
Speaker 1: a film about that's right, Oh my god, that someone
Speaker 1: didn't look at their notes. No, something about being gay?
Speaker 1: No no, no. Yeah. So her brother like wrote directed
Speaker 1: this Maplethorp movie. She produced it and they both produced it.
Speaker 1: I think they both produced it, and it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was so cool. It had Matt Smith from The
Speaker 1: Crown or yeah, anyway, and she produced it. And also,
Speaker 1: what's the iconic moment in virgin suicides? Oh? It has
Speaker 1: it must be that a side suicide, virgin mom the
Speaker 1: virgin suicide. But I'm like, is that right? I don't
Speaker 1: even know right, I think she like hanging. The iconic
Speaker 1: moment is that her character's name is LUs I think,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I think we can fact check that anyway.
Speaker 1: Can we check that Kirsten's name in Virgion Suicie? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. To get her on less cultures, we really do.
Speaker 1: We would. Also, honestly, I'm like, cut together the Dunsta sons.
Speaker 1: He make it like images, and then it's like, come on,
Speaker 1: if we sat her reel of every time we've talked
Speaker 1: about her on this podcast. By the way, I think
Speaker 1: she might be the most the second most or third
Speaker 1: most talked about cultural figure on this pod, after Kelly
Speaker 1: Clarkson and Swift, because I'm a Kelly Clarkson kind of girl.
Speaker 1: I saw her like a commercial, like for a talk show,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, she saw Rachel Ryan was like, I
Speaker 1: can do that. That's me. She's like, I'm Rachel. Right
Speaker 1: to wait. I bet she would die to have you
Speaker 1: on why. Oh my gosh, that show. That's I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I mean, she'd be so fun. I bet it would
Speaker 1: be so goofy that here's my impression of a Kelly
Speaker 1: Parkson interviewing Elana at her show. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: so cool. You got to do a show with your
Speaker 1: best friend that I've never got to see my best
Speaker 1: friend because I was on the road. What my house
Speaker 1: is my best friend? Oh that's cute. Okay, you're selling
Speaker 1: me on it. Yeah, I ask her on it, honestly,
Speaker 1: just d M, that's so funny. My literal dream is
Speaker 1: to meet her just once and not weep because every
Speaker 1: I literally, dude, my dream is for you to meet
Speaker 1: her and week I had an opportunity to meet her
Speaker 1: and I didn't take kid because I got to wait.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for that because I'm like, you'll meet her
Speaker 1: on your time's right there, Yeah, she's right there. I
Speaker 1: don't want it to be like a moment where like
Speaker 1: I don't know, it would be a lot. Do you
Speaker 1: want to is your thing that you want to be
Speaker 1: a little not you don't want to come out it
Speaker 1: just from an angle of fanhood. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to you want to be like you want to
Speaker 1: not be her equal like I want to. You gotta be.
Speaker 1: You gotta be like I would like to meet her
Speaker 1: with purpose and I would like to be measured enough
Speaker 1: to be able to like tell her that she was
Speaker 1: important to make great because I was a little gay
Speaker 1: boy on Long Island and when American Idol happened, it
Speaker 1: was like, um, it was a moment for me because okay,
Speaker 1: this is like this will get a little real. But
Speaker 1: I remember seeing like America fall in love with her
Speaker 1: and it seemed like she was just being herself and
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, maybe one day I can be
Speaker 1: myself and people will like it. Like it was very
Speaker 1: it was like if you love this, when when no, no,
Speaker 1: get out of here, She's gonna love this, Remember, she
Speaker 1: said Kelly. Who's like that for you though? Who have
Speaker 1: you met anyone that you've been like, oh, like RuPaul.
Speaker 1: I met RuPaul. I was like, I feel I can't
Speaker 1: even explain it. I'm like, I feel like I'm RuPaul's child.
Speaker 1: I remember, like had that VH one show. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just felt like and like we will come back
Speaker 1: in my culture thing later. Like I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: always felt seen. It's so weird. But like seeing I
Speaker 1: mean whatever, seeing heard by Ru and also Ru like
Speaker 1: made me feel as a kid, like the world I
Speaker 1: want to be in is out there when I finished
Speaker 1: high school, yeah, and can get out of here. And
Speaker 1: finally like comment, oh my god, you fantasy And it's
Speaker 1: not like I'm not like a black drag queen, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that world is You're still communing with
Speaker 1: the world through Roo. Yes, And it was like playfulness
Speaker 1: and invitation and welcoming and like um thick joy thick
Speaker 1: joy um. But that is very where I'm just like,
Speaker 1: fuck that that was, and and like I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: for purpose, but it it does um in general, and
Speaker 1: like such a I work so much and I'm now
Speaker 1: that Broad City is over. I'm like trying to make
Speaker 1: um room intentionally for real life abbeys too, We're like, wow, um,
Speaker 1: but the purpose actually, I think it's actually so beautiful
Speaker 1: that you like, for you to meet Kelly when I
Speaker 1: go on her show, for you to meet her with
Speaker 1: me is like to cry because I'm like, I wish
Speaker 1: I could have done that, but I was like, we
Speaker 1: got to read our lines. Um, you want to run it.
Speaker 1: You want to run it like Mars has given me
Speaker 1: the opportunity to issue like presence and processing, and I
Speaker 1: am noticing like the limb I'm missing right now because
Speaker 1: even leaning too far into purpose, is that what you're saying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've been so productive and I'm like I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking productivity queen. Like but you know, it's like I
Speaker 1: need some like space and quiet to be like our
Speaker 1: word group. I'm not gonna say that our word into Mike,
Speaker 1: but like our word group and just like primordial group.
Speaker 1: And I really need to like do it like intentional journey,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like to give that space
Speaker 1: for that to check in with yourself and have those
Speaker 1: moments like real yes, yeah, I totally hear you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. Do you want to get like really
Speaker 1: really do you want to get like really because this
Speaker 1: feels like such a safe space and I'm like it
Speaker 1: would be so chilled to just be like present and real.
Speaker 1: It's also like, you know, for like a gay boy
Speaker 1: on Long Island, like I was just so would just
Speaker 1: look at Elliott, my brother for culture and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's what culture is, That's who I am, you know,
Speaker 1: like Elliott was like my guide and like guiding light.
Speaker 1: And it's like my journey as like a queer person
Speaker 1: is like happening through broad City in real time, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't like as clear as um you know, like
Speaker 1: and you remind me of my best friend Andrew, and
Speaker 1: it's like it was so clear. Friend, we were like
Speaker 1: first friends in kindergarten if you can't believe literally I remember,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like twenty seven years of friend. I
Speaker 1: have a but also Long Island like where we have
Speaker 1: this like we've made it fifty five miles away, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's this small world. I
Speaker 1: have like a few of those friends, but are like
Speaker 1: journey together, you know. For boys, it's it's so um
Speaker 1: it's so much clearer here, Like I'm not like these
Speaker 1: other boys, you know, and as a girl, and like
Speaker 1: I want to be the girl. I want to be
Speaker 1: like in the girl or whatever. And it's like my
Speaker 1: journey is like opening up through Broad City and Abby
Speaker 1: two look at her like queer journey and how she
Speaker 1: shared that, you know, and like, um, it's just what
Speaker 1: was it that I was like connecting it back to
Speaker 1: just that you're You're narrative is so clear, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and my narrative is clear through Broad City. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I honestly want like part of me wishes that I
Speaker 1: just met Rue broke down and cried it but instead
Speaker 1: of like really love it, and I'm like numb, you know,
Speaker 1: and I kind of numb out when I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: that's just like my defense mechanism and body does that.
Speaker 1: But I think it would be like I wish I
Speaker 1: did like cry and ruse arms, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's like it's weird because it was that moment. It
Speaker 1: was that moment like before it was real, and then
Speaker 1: I wonder what would have happened had I been like
Speaker 1: in front of her or in front of my hero.
Speaker 1: But um, it is that thing where sometimes you feel
Speaker 1: like you're having an out of body experience when and
Speaker 1: so you're you're not in your body your body when
Speaker 1: I Yeah, when I would like have like like nervous
Speaker 1: breakdowns in college and like comedy, I would feel really
Speaker 1: like dissociative, and that's how I feel now, but in
Speaker 1: a productive way. And it's like I want to like
Speaker 1: break that open. What does it look like you dissociate
Speaker 1: and then and then you work or what? Well, it's
Speaker 1: even like um meeting rough, I'm like, so we are
Speaker 1: so honored to have you on this, I mean beyond
Speaker 1: like I grew up like yeah, yeah, this is so crazy.
Speaker 1: Let me know anything you need and we'll say, well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna jump in, you know. And it's like okay,
Speaker 1: like stop screaming, stop screaming, you know, and like and
Speaker 1: then even like I mean, I I just like tried
Speaker 1: to like allow myself at least I can be quietly amazed, stunned,
Speaker 1: dumb stunned like that. But like it it's kind of
Speaker 1: this like offshoot of like the numb thing I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: but like yeah, you know that kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like guys, guys, what we gotta do is, um,
Speaker 1: you know, did anybody get on you know, like it's
Speaker 1: just like being productive to be productive, and I'm realizing
Speaker 1: that's also an avoidance too. That looks really good and
Speaker 1: like does move things along, but like there's a different
Speaker 1: way I want to do things that pressure. Also, when
Speaker 1: you have someone on your literal show, it's like you
Speaker 1: do have to do that where it's like you are
Speaker 1: sort of like there and you're like the person like
Speaker 1: you you and like Abby were the kind of like
Speaker 1: they're like you are their host. And so it's the
Speaker 1: responsibility to that, but also the responsibility to yourself to
Speaker 1: be to like not have this moment passed you by
Speaker 1: and like not be able to tell someone like I'll
Speaker 1: be real. We had Margaret Show on this show my
Speaker 1: number one when I was when I was like fucking
Speaker 1: online Island, being gay, shutting the door behind me, plugging
Speaker 1: in my computer on my headphones so my parents wouldn't
Speaker 1: hear me listening to this content and like, um, really
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, like was was expounding sort
Speaker 1: of like these this humor that I didn't know why
Speaker 1: I connected to, but I did, and I was truly young,
Speaker 1: and like I didn't understand like what a douche was,
Speaker 1: but I knew that her doing stand up about it
Speaker 1: was funny to me, Like I didn't understand all this
Speaker 1: exclusively gay humor. And then we traveled to her to
Speaker 1: have her on this podcast and um she was upstate
Speaker 1: New York doing a show, and I think that it
Speaker 1: was kind of just we literally it was the first
Speaker 1: time we ever traveled for anyone. And I'm also it
Speaker 1: was so literally I was so nervous beforehand, like bone
Speaker 1: can tell you. I was like rearranging the chairs in
Speaker 1: the hotel and we went and for her it's just
Speaker 1: like it was a normal fucking day because she doesn't
Speaker 1: know that. But but I mean, we kind of sat
Speaker 1: down and I was like, I can like chicken out
Speaker 1: right now, or I can say like that you meant
Speaker 1: made such a difference to me. And I did say that,
Speaker 1: and I think she kind of received it like Okay, cool, thanks,
Speaker 1: but did it feel for you? But I'm happy I
Speaker 1: did it. It's satisfied the thing that you call. I'm
Speaker 1: really happy I did it. What town do you grow
Speaker 1: up in? Ice Slip? Oh my gosh, why where are
Speaker 1: you from? St. James. We were like fifteen minutes away.
Speaker 1: But yet world, did you watch Strong Island? What is
Speaker 1: Strong Islands? Um? It's like an extremely painful but unbelievably
Speaker 1: gorgeous document documentary. My friend who one of my best friends,
Speaker 1: who is from Upstates is documentary and I've like, I've
Speaker 1: permaded that and it's terrible. So I had to work
Speaker 1: to say documentary. But it takes place in East Ice.
Speaker 1: Slip and I slip and it's like eighteen years earlier.
Speaker 1: I have to see it. I can't believe I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. If it takes place in Ice, make space
Speaker 1: to break open and like feel the history of the
Speaker 1: country in your spine, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: yearn and change it. Yeah, it's powerful. Yeah, it's actually
Speaker 1: like it's such an interesting place to grow up, I
Speaker 1: think because you kind of like grow up and you're
Speaker 1: there and you think, like this is every town man,
Speaker 1: this is like we're we are we're living in it,
Speaker 1: and we're also like on the right side of history
Speaker 1: and this is how you live. And then you kind
Speaker 1: of look at it from the outside and you look
Speaker 1: at it like a queer from a queer point of view,
Speaker 1: when you can kind of see it, and now looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, like I really I'm I'm I'm proud
Speaker 1: to come from there, and I'm happy to come from there.
Speaker 1: But when I see sometimes like how thick the patriarchy
Speaker 1: is there? Yeah, why are you proud to come from
Speaker 1: Maybe I said that because I don't want to hurt
Speaker 1: people's feelings. Maybe that's why I just said that in Colorado, Aurora,
Speaker 1: So where where that? And it's like twenty minutes outside
Speaker 1: of Denver. Just the separate It's truly, this is the
Speaker 1: thing about this is the thing about Denver and this
Speaker 1: I truly felt that when I went back last week
Speaker 1: for the show. It was a great show, was a
Speaker 1: great crowd. I love Denver so much. Being there, like
Speaker 1: existing there feels like you are in for me, at
Speaker 1: least someone who's like not super outdoors, you're not super
Speaker 1: into sports or not super to like skiing and ship
Speaker 1: I mean I ski whatever. Um, it feels like you're
Speaker 1: living like in purgatory. It feels like literal like literally
Speaker 1: your in suspension. You you do not know which direction
Speaker 1: to go in l A's over there, New York's over there.
Speaker 1: You're like where where where? Where? Should I end up
Speaker 1: because you guys have this direct directional thing of like, well,
Speaker 1: we're fifty five miles outside of New York or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's like you guys know where to go at
Speaker 1: least in some general Yeah, you were, you were headed
Speaker 1: to the city to get out of that situation. I
Speaker 1: want to qualify what one thing, which is that I
Speaker 1: think that breakdown deconstructed and eventually expire. I want to
Speaker 1: say I think that people on Long Island have big hearts,
Speaker 1: but I often think that it's like they always mean well,
Speaker 1: and it's just and I do think that they don't
Speaker 1: understand the sort of microaggressions and sort of things that
Speaker 1: like hurt people from marginalized community when when especially when
Speaker 1: they don't know they're part of one, like coming of
Speaker 1: age there and just being on the outside of everything
Speaker 1: and not really knowing why, but knowing why. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, it's not everyone's fault, it's the fault of
Speaker 1: like sort of like a system that says to men,
Speaker 1: like you tell your wife what to do, it says
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, when emin eminem was huge
Speaker 1: when we were in like elementary school and middle school,
Speaker 1: high school. I'm sure, and to have that be the
Speaker 1: most prominent cultural figure in a community where they are
Speaker 1: already told and they already can view like the fact
Speaker 1: that like there's no gay people in media, there's at
Speaker 1: that time, there's you know, men yell at their wives
Speaker 1: because I can't breathe because I get excited and I
Speaker 1: like miss like my normal breath. So I'm just like
Speaker 1: damming because I need to like gas. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But you know, that is literally gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you can you have
Speaker 1: the awareness of the air. Yea. It happens so often
Speaker 1: and people look at my mouth and flared nostrils as
Speaker 1: I like try to mask a on in their face,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, and it's better to admit
Speaker 1: and like and I'm gonna one day be over it.
Speaker 1: But I understand. You can literally see you getting what
Speaker 1: I'm saying because it's like every and I can tell
Speaker 1: it's true because like when I came out of the
Speaker 1: closet to people, they were so quick to love and
Speaker 1: accept me, like I really had an easy time. What
Speaker 1: I'm really appreciating is the big hearts part the patriarchy
Speaker 1: be tick that like I really appreciate that. It's like
Speaker 1: we are Long Island is the first suburb. It's like
Speaker 1: the science lab for the suburb. How long do we have? Um,
Speaker 1: it's the and it's the prototypical suburbs. So everything there
Speaker 1: and also in New York is so such a wild place.
Speaker 1: Like it is as racist as it is not racist,
Speaker 1: as woman hating and woman violent as it is feminist
Speaker 1: in a space for women to be strong. It is
Speaker 1: as gay as it is homophobic and here and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm obsessed with Long Island, but I
Speaker 1: really appreciate, appreciate the big hearts thing because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: picturing my best friend's parents, who are Italian voted for Trump.
Speaker 1: So I didn't grow up with Jews. I grew up
Speaker 1: with like Italian Americans and like the Irish people, and
Speaker 1: then also just other white people who like and it's
Speaker 1: interesting like Italian Americans like select when they are ethnic
Speaker 1: and when they are white kind of like also who
Speaker 1: Jews are, like, um, they like will will cash in
Speaker 1: their like white currency. They're they're patriarchy points and when
Speaker 1: they want and then other times they're like do you
Speaker 1: remember the Holocaust? No one forgets the Holocaust honestly, like
Speaker 1: everybody will remember, like honestly like remember, and I'm like
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, like, it's not about remembering that is what
Speaker 1: we need. It's you know what I mean, It's like
Speaker 1: about not it's about putting our money in the right
Speaker 1: place and like speaking up because it's not about the Holocaust,
Speaker 1: like that's happening to in our country to like children,
Speaker 1: brown children like you know, um, and I can picture
Speaker 1: my I'm so close actually with my best friend's parents
Speaker 1: who voted for Trump. I love them and like I
Speaker 1: just saw them recently and I'm like if I like,
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten there yet, but if I talked to
Speaker 1: them about it, they would cry. They would like weep
Speaker 1: and cry and feel so bad. And it's and they
Speaker 1: are like really Catholic and like they you know, are
Speaker 1: very they believe in something and they have huge hearts
Speaker 1: and it's, um, my parents. I've been like, thank God,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do like the white person thing
Speaker 1: of talking to my parents at the dinner table. But
Speaker 1: it's like, well, then talk to other people's parents because
Speaker 1: I have like these I have these friends for years,
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, and it's like then talk talk to
Speaker 1: Jenny's parents, you know what I mean, like because they
Speaker 1: would they would be receptive, they'd weep if I was
Speaker 1: talking about this to them, and like that big hearts element.
Speaker 1: There is such a strong piece that I've been uh
Speaker 1: missing that I think that I think that is what
Speaker 1: it is. And I will say, Um, the reason why
Speaker 1: it's challenging, I think to talk to people on Long Island,
Speaker 1: like or in any suburb or some sort of any
Speaker 1: conservative person that you care about, is because when you
Speaker 1: go back to see those people, you step into an
Speaker 1: atmosphere wherein historically you've been closeted and you've been restricted,
Speaker 1: and you've been sort of cultured to shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: And so to go back into that environment and even
Speaker 1: be the person that you are now, which is someone
Speaker 1: who speaks up, which is someone who communicates, is hard
Speaker 1: because we've been classically fucking conditioned two be small in
Speaker 1: that space. It's violent. I always call the air of
Speaker 1: Long Island like sexually violent, because okay, can I can
Speaker 1: I ask you a Colorado question? So it's like, do
Speaker 1: you see this insane like pressure that we have like
Speaker 1: around our narrative? No, I absolutely, And this is what
Speaker 1: you're talking about with a clear narrative, because I did
Speaker 1: not have a clear name. That's what I'm saying about Colorado.
Speaker 1: There's no clear narrative. And call in New York is
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm the star of the yeah, because like
Speaker 1: so many movies are made here and America, like we
Speaker 1: think we're the star of the fucking movie from coast
Speaker 1: to coast, and like now in the middle, it's like
Speaker 1: we are the stars of the movie too. Otherwise we're
Speaker 1: gonna like, you know, it's like the divide or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: But for you guys, for you guys talking about Long Island,
Speaker 1: it's just very interesting because it's like I said, like
Speaker 1: there's a gradient like about which you guys moved towards
Speaker 1: New York you go west, literally there is one. There's
Speaker 1: the big city. Yeah. Yeah, So it's going to about
Speaker 1: it being in the middle of the country, which is
Speaker 1: like where do you go because Denver and Denver and
Speaker 1: oh my god, okay it's really quickly he really quickly, really,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, please take your time. Pat and I
Speaker 1: were in Denver, um eating a legal pizza downtown. I
Speaker 1: wanted to show show Pat this like fun Denver burrito
Speaker 1: place and then this I feel this aggressive tap on
Speaker 1: my shoulder and I turned around and before he even
Speaker 1: turned around, this girl goes, do you remember me? It was?
Speaker 1: It was, it was fine. But then and then I
Speaker 1: and a miracle happened. I said, Brittany Colston. First and
Speaker 1: last name came right back to me. I said, Brittney Coleston.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm using her real name. Yeah, she will never
Speaker 1: listen to this. And also, thank you God. I love
Speaker 1: that miracle than program in humanity is the biggest like
Speaker 1: miracle there is. Thank you, Thank you Bryan Ryan with
Speaker 1: a Jden Ryan. And then and then I think she
Speaker 1: did not remember my name. She did not remember you, stupid.
Speaker 1: But then but then she's like, she's like, hi, how
Speaker 1: are you. We catch up and she's doing she's like
Speaker 1: my boyfriends over there. She she's you know whatever, she's
Speaker 1: she's very nice and I don't remember you. I have
Speaker 1: a boyfriend there literally and hack and now for this
Speaker 1: and then oh another Long Island Queen Royalty. And then
Speaker 1: then I catch up with her and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? And she goes, God, she goes, didn't
Speaker 1: she she was just like, you left Denver, right, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I did. I was like in New
Speaker 1: York now, and she goes, wow, because you know the
Speaker 1: people she goes because the people who leave they never
Speaker 1: come back. I don't know what to say. And then
Speaker 1: and then like bless her heart, she goes, um, wow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you remember me, but like I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess Asian people have very good memories. She did not.
Speaker 1: And that's why you leave. And ultimately that's why you
Speaker 1: leave it because you don't say she actually and this
Speaker 1: is another miracle, a miracle happened. I was just I
Speaker 1: just like I was very impressed with myself at how
Speaker 1: I just was like I just didn't laugh it off,
Speaker 1: didn't like, oh wow, ship, good for you. I was
Speaker 1: so neutral. I was like I didn't even chump. I
Speaker 1: was like, hm, I just did that. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's good. You know. It like becomes like I'm smelling
Speaker 1: something bad right right, And she would not but she
Speaker 1: would not leave, and she didn't and she was like
Speaker 1: obviously a white woman, so she that was a twist.
Speaker 1: I honestly like this reverse Long Island racism where we
Speaker 1: think we know that's a twist anyway, race is this person.
Speaker 1: She's luck but she you know, but she's truly like Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. It's just like she was
Speaker 1: just like she's like yeah wow, but she was truly
Speaker 1: like the bleak moment was like the people who leave
Speaker 1: do not come. Oh okay, I have like some additions. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I was a waitress at the Blty Breakfast lunch
Speaker 1: and take out from fourteen to eighteen. Okay, I learned,
Speaker 1: my god, where was that at the same times at
Speaker 1: the Sint Gimes train station just off the hundred yards dred.
Speaker 1: Sorry guys, I do meeters Readers' Rights train station and
Speaker 1: um and uh, so I really studied and learned. Um,
Speaker 1: I got like an early masters in the socio economic
Speaker 1: um structures of Long Island are like segregated white Long
Speaker 1: Island and like Mafia Long Island. I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1: So before so I was yeah, I um because like
Speaker 1: screaming into that. So um, I was about to go
Speaker 1: at n y U, which I want to talk about
Speaker 1: Religi and um oh you went sid way to escape
Speaker 1: ticket but also evil. So um. Two things. One was
Speaker 1: like I was like, yeah, I got accepted into n
Speaker 1: y U. I had brought in UM Andrew Bristler, who
Speaker 1: was UM called a fagot under the like owner's breaths.
Speaker 1: He was like abused as a teenager UM by the
Speaker 1: violent masculinity there. I brought in another gave us friend
Speaker 1: who was UM, who like was safer because of how
Speaker 1: he presented. And UM and this guy two things like
Speaker 1: I was telling people this is my last day or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I'm leaving soon, and this guy was like, I
Speaker 1: don't go I I haven't been to New York City
Speaker 1: in thirty five years. Avoids the city, like you know
Speaker 1: by the tribro and then we'll just go north or
Speaker 1: like it goes to Jersey. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: the he comated Jersey never has to go to my
Speaker 1: hat And I'm like, how you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then this other woman I was remembering this the
Speaker 1: other day, Alice, who got eggs and mustard um, and
Speaker 1: she was like, you're gonna think I'm crazy, but now
Speaker 1: I eat actually eggs and mustard like Alice. But she
Speaker 1: told me when I go to n y U don't
Speaker 1: get tainted. Don't get tainted. And that's that's what it is,
Speaker 1: and that that's the teller right there. But that's the
Speaker 1: tell don't get tainted. That's how you know. It's intense
Speaker 1: fear that they math with pride. Yes, they say, it's
Speaker 1: like we are from our hometown and we're proud to
Speaker 1: be and we don't need anything else. It's fear like
Speaker 1: she's providing safety for me, protection for me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel unprotected right now. I feel unsafe right now
Speaker 1: because I don't because I think you you actually hate
Speaker 1: me if you knew who I was right right. And
Speaker 1: that is another thing about fear. Yeah, that's the fear
Speaker 1: in like sharing and really sort of I always say,
Speaker 1: like I always say, it is a thing. One of
Speaker 1: the things I always say is, um, like, when you
Speaker 1: come out in whatever way you come out, and then
Speaker 1: you have to keep coming out right, So it's like
Speaker 1: you come out as queer, gay, whatever that you are,
Speaker 1: and then you have to come out with your interests,
Speaker 1: you have to come out with your opinions, you have
Speaker 1: to come out with your experiences, and so that is
Speaker 1: hard to share with people who you who have been,
Speaker 1: who you've been cultured and designed to see in certain
Speaker 1: ways because they could look at you and be like wow, um,
Speaker 1: either I have to confront myself and change a lot
Speaker 1: of my perceptions and ideas, or I am just gonna
Speaker 1: stay being afraid of you and not understanding you and
Speaker 1: sort of weirdly hating you. Well, here's the thing. Queerness
Speaker 1: is never absolute. It's always like queerness is the beam
Speaker 1: of light. And then you're you're constantly being presented different
Speaker 1: like prisons to refract them. So like the prison is
Speaker 1: gonna be sucking Alice one day where you're where she's like,
Speaker 1: don't let it taint you, and You're like, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? It's like you just the thousand joys and
Speaker 1: sorrows everything per person, where you just have to like
Speaker 1: know what to how to respond to an Alice or
Speaker 1: Bert Newkolston or a fucking whoever whoever in Long Island,
Speaker 1: like gave you ship. I don't know, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: everyone everyone okay because you because you were just there
Speaker 1: for a minute and then you know you did. I
Speaker 1: went to UM I did psych and child psych and
Speaker 1: it was fucking sick, and I'm literally like yes, actually
Speaker 1: first um GSP GSP, like kids with public school education
Speaker 1: for real aren't so smart. Honestly, that was so smart.
Speaker 1: And he's a lot of Long Island. People were GSP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: LSP as they called it. When I was there, Liberal
Speaker 1: Studies liberally started changes to Liberally. They're like General Think,
Speaker 1: I think because they knew that General Studies program like
Speaker 1: sounded shady like to the kids because my money actually
Speaker 1: going to end like whatever. But it was great because I, um,
Speaker 1: do you guys know Matt Stupira, he's a writer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of one of my best friends. I seriously
Speaker 1: have like best friends, and I love New York for
Speaker 1: that reason. I keep it here. Um, So met Sears,
Speaker 1: my best friend, and we met there and John. I
Speaker 1: had two friends at n y U. I found it
Speaker 1: extremely hard to make friends, and then I made my
Speaker 1: other best friend into later. But that was it. I
Speaker 1: was like, I have two friends. This school is too big.
Speaker 1: It was I gotta go to comedy. Did you guys
Speaker 1: enter comedy while you're in college? Yes? Well we were,
Speaker 1: and so I was in Hammercuts and Boonen was in Danger. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys were both in Tish. No I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I am still jealous. I am still resentful, are you really?
Speaker 1: That was because, yeah, it was like one of those
Speaker 1: classic stories of like did you audition and not get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was no you couldn't unless you were Tish And
Speaker 1: I was like I don't even say s m g
Speaker 1: SP bitch. And then the other thing was like I
Speaker 1: like looked into I was just like, is there a
Speaker 1: way to transfer to Tish? I got to be and
Speaker 1: it was like you had to pay like another four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars per class and I was like already on
Speaker 1: aid or whatever, and I was like, oh funk this.
Speaker 1: And then also like to just do comedy it was dope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, also I loved the I love psych and
Speaker 1: ship Yeah, because cool. But you were you going up
Speaker 1: to you? Were you like energy? So when you say
Speaker 1: like you you started doing comedy like that was like
Speaker 1: you went to UCB, Yeah, I mean you CEB. And
Speaker 1: also like, oh my god, there used to be oh gosh,
Speaker 1: there raffifi. You weren't oh I hank like such a thing.
Speaker 1: I remember moving to New York. I was like researching.
Speaker 1: I was such a fucking And then I was just
Speaker 1: like these are the these are the spots to go
Speaker 1: to the tank that raffifi like there used to be
Speaker 1: like the whatever is happening? Corporate capitalism gentrification wise, like
Speaker 1: I've seen in like the pattern of there used to
Speaker 1: be like many small um pleasing to do comedy, but
Speaker 1: now there's not even like the big places to do it.
Speaker 1: I know it's wild, it's so wild what is happening.
Speaker 1: But like I talk like just I don't know. Being
Speaker 1: here it's like making me feel better about having gone
Speaker 1: to ny U because you know, I really loved a
Speaker 1: post you wrote once about how and I was like
Speaker 1: a real estate company that have classes, which is true,
Speaker 1: and um, I uh, you know, it's like a ticket
Speaker 1: that you buy from out of out of city to
Speaker 1: invest in the city, and if you can afford it,
Speaker 1: you get to like get a foothold in the city.
Speaker 1: And it's like something that I used to feel like
Speaker 1: so guilty, but and I guess I still do. But
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is that's the that's where I
Speaker 1: was born into and what I was able to do,
Speaker 1: and that was my plan and here I am. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's like you have to also
Speaker 1: give yourselves some credit because the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is we were born into and raised in a system
Speaker 1: that said you go to college at eighteen, and so
Speaker 1: where do you go when you go to New York,
Speaker 1: you what you I don't know about you. I played
Speaker 1: everywhere in the New York City area. I played early
Speaker 1: decision to Columbia. Didn't get in, but almost when in
Speaker 1: an athletic scholarship, if you can believe that, across country
Speaker 1: and track. And then I didn't get in there because
Speaker 1: I wasn't smart enough or my test wars weren't good enough.
Speaker 1: But I did get into n y U through through
Speaker 1: GSP slash LSP, so I I was not it was
Speaker 1: a regular thing. So I had applied religion to Columbia,
Speaker 1: didn't get in, and then I had I had applied
Speaker 1: other places and then got into n y U and
Speaker 1: did that because I did suffer from at the time,
Speaker 1: like I want to go to a good school. And
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, n y US one of
Speaker 1: the new Ivys, and it was, and that was what
Speaker 1: they were very much saying that I don't know, recycle
Speaker 1: just now. Yeah, me being like closeted, try hard, like
Speaker 1: let me let me look so good in every other
Speaker 1: area of my life so that when people find out
Speaker 1: I'm gay, that I don't literally write me off. I said,
Speaker 1: let's go to n y U. It's a good school. Begged,
Speaker 1: not begged, but like sort of like with my eyes
Speaker 1: were like pleased to my parents, like where this will
Speaker 1: pay off? And I did get some financial aid, ended
Speaker 1: up being an r A and did everything I could
Speaker 1: to make that work, to justify it. I couldn't be
Speaker 1: an r A. Like audition twice Yeah, fuck, I think
Speaker 1: they could tell I really didn't want to do it
Speaker 1: in spuns a lot a week. Um. Yeah, So you
Speaker 1: guys did all four years four year okay in your research,
Speaker 1: So you were already researching comedy before you came. This
Speaker 1: is this is this is what was happening. I was
Speaker 1: good to do premed no matter what pretty bad I was.
Speaker 1: I was doing like oh but like listeners know this,
Speaker 1: but I just um but I was going on these
Speaker 1: college stores being like is there a comedy group here?
Speaker 1: Like Northwestern being like so Titanic players when you guys
Speaker 1: do auditions, I was like truly horrid, a terrible kid.
Speaker 1: And then it was it was between U c l
Speaker 1: A and my U and I was researching the people
Speaker 1: in the group at n y U. I was researching
Speaker 1: Danger Box and Hammercats. I was like, I'm not a writer,
Speaker 1: I'm more of an improviser. I'm not so Hammercats wasn't
Speaker 1: even like really like no, not for me, but you
Speaker 1: have your sites. My sites were set on fucking danger Box.
Speaker 1: You wanted it bad, and I wanted it so bad.
Speaker 1: I think I got into that group. I share force
Speaker 1: of will. I had never acted are written before. That
Speaker 1: was my first audition ever, and I remember, just like
Speaker 1: I'll say, I fucking crushed. It was literally because I
Speaker 1: was like, I am fighting for my life. I remember
Speaker 1: sitting on my bed crying. My freshman year closeted horrible.
Speaker 1: And then I literally went to my computer and was like,
Speaker 1: who do I look up to most in the world?
Speaker 1: So funny Amy Poehler. I typed in her name, Amy Poehler,
Speaker 1: and it's she said that she was in her college
Speaker 1: improv group, and she did, and she was like UCB
Speaker 1: that she started it. And so I signed up for
Speaker 1: a UCB class and was like, I'm going to audition
Speaker 1: for both of these comedy groups and I'm going to
Speaker 1: get in one of them. Got cut first round of
Speaker 1: Danger Box I'll Never Forgive, and then made it into Hammercats.
Speaker 1: And then I was because he thinks it's my fault. Oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is a good story. So I was auditioning for
Speaker 1: the Danger Box Improv group and Bowen had been in
Speaker 1: the group for one He came over to me and
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Matt heard this is so great that
Speaker 1: you're auditioning. And I was like, yeah, I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: I took a UCB improv class over the summer and
Speaker 1: he said, that's cute. Well, i'll see you in there.
Speaker 1: I heard you're really funny, so it should be good
Speaker 1: first round. I did not k that's the energy you remember,
Speaker 1: That's not the energy he came over. He was, but
Speaker 1: not even the energy. Literally, readers, goddamn. If you can
Speaker 1: imagine a time when Bone Dang and I didn't really
Speaker 1: know each other and he came over to me in
Speaker 1: an audition setting where I was there, I did not
Speaker 1: give you that vibe at all, but you didn't but it.
Speaker 1: But it was so funny because to now think about that, now,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's so funny. But you put my
Speaker 1: my pleasant interaction with you through your stupid Rube Goldberg
Speaker 1: machine in your brain and then you spit it out
Speaker 1: and said Bone was really rude to me. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: what's that movie? Rushamone. Yeah, that's rushamone. It's actually Rule
Speaker 1: Culture number six. What's that movie? Anyway? Um? I was researching,
Speaker 1: but and then I sent and Andres a message on
Speaker 1: Facebook being like, Hi, when are the Welcome Week shows?
Speaker 1: When we're near the auditions? Like I would love to go.
Speaker 1: It's such a April April two anyway, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And it's like Obama's president Bush bush Era, fucking dumbass.
Speaker 1: I can't we want to shoot in the bush Era
Speaker 1: for a minute, for a minute, for a hot sack.
Speaker 1: You went to school in the bush Era? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: thirty two. You guys are two thousand, thousand twelve. That
Speaker 1: was I'm like fried, I have like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: like I love myself and all this, but like I'm
Speaker 1: just like my we're feel we're feeling the gen z
Speaker 1: is fucking nipping in our heels. Can you believe there's
Speaker 1: someone called Billie Eilish and she's very famous. Yeah, wild crazy,
Speaker 1: she's so famous and it's like wild, like when when
Speaker 1: someone is truly twelve thousand five Sorry yeah it was
Speaker 1: when I entered Yeah, yeah, so when someone is truly
Speaker 1: truly young and there she's so funny. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: same into it because she accepted she won Best New
Speaker 1: Artists to be amazed, and she wasn't there even though
Speaker 1: Lizzo was between her and Lizzo Lizzar should want but
Speaker 1: whatever Billy Billy wants, she wasn't there. But she she
Speaker 1: sends a video message, a vertical iPhone selfie video front
Speaker 1: She's in her fucking car. She's like, I can't be there.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm actually on tour in Russia anyway.
Speaker 1: Um she goes Patt and I locked about that. She
Speaker 1: goes videos and visuals have always been a huge priority
Speaker 1: for me, so they wait. But also it's like Lizza
Speaker 1: didn't the moment I found I discovered stopped up. The
Speaker 1: moment I discovered Lizza was. I stayed up on a
Speaker 1: Thursday to watch my episode of broad City because I
Speaker 1: was like the highlight of my life watch and then
Speaker 1: you guys played um let him say by Lizzo in
Speaker 1: the season three premiere, and I was like, in that
Speaker 1: way the who just let split screen montage? And I
Speaker 1: was like, who the funk is this? I love this
Speaker 1: fucking song. Look her up that night, listen to all
Speaker 1: her ship that night. I was like, I'm obsessed. That
Speaker 1: was because of Max, So I'm amazing. I like listened
Speaker 1: to like, I watched the videos that he would do,
Speaker 1: the features that he would do when he would like
Speaker 1: music supervisor brought to stuff, the beautiful, cool, the coolest,
Speaker 1: he's the horniest. I'm so this is problematic. He's so hot,
Speaker 1: so the problematic and that I'm like objecting whatever that
Speaker 1: I'm like, just he's like he's a sexy motherfucker who
Speaker 1: has taste in music, Like sign me up love it anyway. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering what I'm really sorry. I wish
Speaker 1: I knew this, but I haven't was the city in years. No, no,
Speaker 1: I know the yet, But what was your exact line?
Speaker 1: Where like their bathroom excuse me, their bathroom here? Um
Speaker 1: too up, Yes, we don't have bathroom here, and we
Speaker 1: don't have bathrooms here. This is the pop up and yeah,
Speaker 1: I blocked it out. Funny I was. That was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, that's the best day of my life. That was.
Speaker 1: That was so funny. And also it was just such
Speaker 1: a pleasure to receive your audition. Oh, come on. And
Speaker 1: then Lucia came up to me and she was like I,
Speaker 1: She's like, who are you? I was like, so the best,
Speaker 1: the best, literally, the hottest, coolest couple. We had them
Speaker 1: on the show and I was looking at them like
Speaker 1: they're so sexy and cool, They're so funny. It's so
Speaker 1: wild how funny they are. It's good to have people
Speaker 1: in your life that you're like close to and also
Speaker 1: you think are fucking rad. It's come on, and I
Speaker 1: just fed you your line, bitch of yours. Come on, Okay, Alana,
Speaker 1: let's ask let's ask the damn question, because literally, and
Speaker 1: we got a little preview of what it might be.
Speaker 1: But Alana, what is the culture that made you say culturalists?
Speaker 1: For me? Okay? Two parter um Um the Love Scheck video.
Speaker 1: I was like such a little kid about me each
Speaker 1: one and was like that's where I'm going to go, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Wow that iconic cultures talk about someone who gave an
Speaker 1: iconic forever performance and like that will stand with Yeah, sister.
Speaker 1: I directed them. I lost my money and that was
Speaker 1: a moment where like I had to be like contained
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I was like I did say to them.
Speaker 1: I was like, guys like Abby and I, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, just between taps. I was like, Abby and
Speaker 1: I are like standing on your shoulders. You have built
Speaker 1: like the you have paved the path like you've done
Speaker 1: the like blood sweat and tears of paving the path.
Speaker 1: Like the only reason I'm able to do this today
Speaker 1: is because of you, and like thank you. And it
Speaker 1: was like so it was so sweet and delicious. That
Speaker 1: is a moment of stepping out of it and and
Speaker 1: and giving them and being in that moment and like
Speaker 1: knowing what you are exactly what you're like saying in
Speaker 1: communicating to this person who means so much to you.
Speaker 1: And and like Susie two and like their energy, like
Speaker 1: that female energy like damn just like knocked us over.
Speaker 1: We all were. It was like so magical to for
Speaker 1: for them to be together. Every time Susie would come
Speaker 1: on set would be everyone's favorite day of the season,
Speaker 1: the most genius casting the web series. We were like
Speaker 1: that's going to be bad, Yeah, you two together, and
Speaker 1: she literally like is my It's like I came out
Speaker 1: of her comedy pussy right right, Like I was laughing
Speaker 1: the other day. She she'll never hear this, so it's
Speaker 1: like fine, I was laughing the other day. She she
Speaker 1: you know, like our mother's And maybe it's not as
Speaker 1: true for mothers two sons, but I'm sure and it
Speaker 1: is because I don't know if Eli said this like
Speaker 1: mothers like appropriate appropriate there such a fucking dirt. Mothers
Speaker 1: like appropriate their their children's um experience as their own. Oh,
Speaker 1: and it's like we share consciousness and it's like, honestly, Mom,
Speaker 1: I don't think we do. But then I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I would think that if I were someone's mother,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I know exactly what you're feeling every
Speaker 1: moment that you feel it. I feel it in my
Speaker 1: body as you experience it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So you know, like my my mom Sandy does that
Speaker 1: all the time. Elliott has this like perfect story of her. Gosh,
Speaker 1: I hope he's okay with me saying this. He will
Speaker 1: hear this is that she said to him, Hi, Elliott,
Speaker 1: that my mom said to him, our hair is thinning,
Speaker 1: our hair is was like, Mom, I'm gonna kill you whatever.
Speaker 1: And Susie does this to me really where like I've
Speaker 1: been wearing my I've been doing like a new do
Speaker 1: where I like slick my hair back with this like
Speaker 1: um spray leaving conditioner as well as hair spray and
Speaker 1: then do like a little fun and it's like kind
Speaker 1: of like Victor Victoria or something. I don't know whether
Speaker 1: it's And I saw Susie and she was like, I
Speaker 1: did my hair like that in the summers. It's easier
Speaker 1: in the summer. We do our hair like that, Like
Speaker 1: she like shares our experience in a way that we
Speaker 1: like our We're just it says, though she is my mother.
Speaker 1: It's crazy her tits and like her body, like it's
Speaker 1: just it's so weird. My mom doesn't have curly hair.
Speaker 1: My mom has small tits and like Susie's got Susie's
Speaker 1: curly hair and curly hair like it. It's interesting. It's
Speaker 1: that is so well. And also the thing about Susie
Speaker 1: is what I really appreciate about her as a performer
Speaker 1: is unbridled. It is you know what I mean, she
Speaker 1: is right here, you know what I mean. It is
Speaker 1: And maybe it's maybe it's maybe it is like an
Speaker 1: improv thing where it's like on curb your enthusiasm, like
Speaker 1: she's able to be so like alive because it's truly
Speaker 1: coming out of her. But what I've always been so
Speaker 1: impressed with with her is like there's just this kind
Speaker 1: of like very vivid, alive, emotional um sort of drive
Speaker 1: that comes from her, which I really appreciate because I'm
Speaker 1: sure she got told a lot like bring it down,
Speaker 1: bring it down, put it down. And when someone is
Speaker 1: just like really fucking alive on camera and on stage
Speaker 1: and etcetera, I I really appreciate. I found this insanely
Speaker 1: delicious archival footage of her doing like some at like
Speaker 1: the improv archive footage of the improv or something, but
Speaker 1: her doing stand up when she was like twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and she was like so cute and hot and cool
Speaker 1: and it's dope. Wow. I mean but her, but you
Speaker 1: two together is is like a magical thing that like
Speaker 1: is not just it's not just about YouTube being like
Speaker 1: talented or professional. It's it's just you two together is
Speaker 1: like a force where it's like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: I think it was it the first episode she was
Speaker 1: in where you guys go for shopping and you guys
Speaker 1: go after the van and then like oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: then Abby calls you telling you she's about to get
Speaker 1: she's about to peg, and then you like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I come wall and twerk Alana, You're like, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: on the phone. So that that for me watching that
Speaker 1: at home, I was like, this is perfect, perfect mother
Speaker 1: daughter casting, and like for what for? Like what for
Speaker 1: two fun characters? No one's like like, no one's endangering
Speaker 1: the other in this relationship on screen, Like it's oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's beautiful and that I do want to
Speaker 1: I want to ask about uh, just doing the finale
Speaker 1: in the last season and like where you guys are
Speaker 1: at now? So like obviously you and are incredibly close,
Speaker 1: like bff, that's that's the way. Um. When I was
Speaker 1: watching that finale, I was like it just felt so
Speaker 1: vivid and real, like the emotions and everything, like so
Speaker 1: now you're obviously not like seeing each other as much
Speaker 1: as much as much because you're not like in a
Speaker 1: direct working space, but like, what's it been like trying
Speaker 1: to like what is it like now? It feels sad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it feels sad. He's about he's leaving, he's
Speaker 1: going to l A and so it's like what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? I was watching and I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that is such a moment of like the change.
Speaker 1: Are you going just for work and from like my
Speaker 1: life and stuff. But like I was, I was identifying
Speaker 1: with the show because it was like, wow, this like happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Abby has a place in l A two
Speaker 1: and lives there too, and it's it's sad. There's like
Speaker 1: an emptiness. Um. You know, we like chose for the
Speaker 1: show to end. Um. And it is really right, like
Speaker 1: what you're describing the rightness of stuff, um, and how
Speaker 1: you have to do stuff even though it's hard and
Speaker 1: that's like the joke of life because it doesn't even
Speaker 1: like feel good. You're like what but it's like that's
Speaker 1: not even what it's about or whatever. Um, but it's correct,
Speaker 1: but it's correct and um, it's sad and hard and
Speaker 1: like we are. Abby really feels like I was saying
Speaker 1: this last night actually um. I was with her at
Speaker 1: Lucarfest and she was UM, I was saying, like Abby's
Speaker 1: my sister, and I like our genes have. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not that far off because we're both Ashkenazi Jews,
Speaker 1: but I feel like our genes have like so that
Speaker 1: where like she feels like my sister and so it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you know, she's like we're not less
Speaker 1: available to each other, but like we are moving on
Speaker 1: in our lives, you know, and we're producing stuff together,
Speaker 1: um stuff I'm excited about. And we created one show together,
Speaker 1: like we're sucking bosses and like taught each other how
Speaker 1: to run huge businesses. You know, Like I think about,
Speaker 1: like how much money is like put forth for someone
Speaker 1: rather than I wish I had all that money. But
Speaker 1: it's like how much money have we gotten to our name?
Speaker 1: It's like we've you know, the series of broad City,
Speaker 1: that the budget that we earned by the like selling
Speaker 1: that content and that art. It's like we ran like
Speaker 1: a huge business. I mean, Paul Lucia said this when
Speaker 1: they were on. They were like, we just had to
Speaker 1: teach ourselves. No one was really like handing over the
Speaker 1: keys or anything or telling us what to do. Like
Speaker 1: you guys, we're like the most like self starting sort
Speaker 1: of unit. It feel. It felt like and like at
Speaker 1: least in like our little world where it was just like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: look at what they're doing, like let's like let's let
Speaker 1: this be a model like and and we told them
Speaker 1: like all these new like these great new shows, like
Speaker 1: we were saying like like the Pent of Teens and
Speaker 1: like the other like two hand or like comedies of
Speaker 1: sitcoms of the world that are popping up now that
Speaker 1: are so good. It's like I think, like and there's
Speaker 1: a huge it's a huge it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it couldn't have really happened. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: like you know, they wouldn't exist, but I'm saying like that,
Speaker 1: but everything matters when when it's net what hasn't been
Speaker 1: done before all those little steps, it was shown to
Speaker 1: be viable through broad cities, so so viable that it
Speaker 1: was just like, well, great, like that's this works. We
Speaker 1: know this works now. Like if there were a chapter
Speaker 1: of a textbook that is like shows like this, like
Speaker 1: your show would be like a huge part of that.
Speaker 1: And that's something to be so proud of. And what
Speaker 1: I'm really really what I really love about it is
Speaker 1: how it kept its integrity the time, and it kept
Speaker 1: the soul of who you guys were and who what
Speaker 1: the even the web series was and what the show
Speaker 1: was kept You kept that the whole time. And that's
Speaker 1: the hard especially when you become the new fucking cool
Speaker 1: show and like people are talking about it and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to keep seeing it the way you
Speaker 1: see it, I'd be so smart. She is just so
Speaker 1: smart and the way she and she's such she really
Speaker 1: like taught me how to be an artist. She went
Speaker 1: to art school. And I was like, what is that?
Speaker 1: Like I'm such a like you know, and I'm just
Speaker 1: such a I don't know, like sort of more low mindset,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm I'm I have
Speaker 1: that accessible quality because I'm like fucking dumb too, you
Speaker 1: know what i mean, because you are all the time.
Speaker 1: Is so elevated it and like, um, you know, like
Speaker 1: she's just so smart and elevated and um, she's really
Speaker 1: good at that integrity thing and shaping that because I'm
Speaker 1: so open and uh and like giving, you know, and
Speaker 1: she's um has like stronger boundaries you know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just so smart and know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And Paul Luccio, what's funny is that like as you know,
Speaker 1: you're creative partner like becomes your husband wife. I was
Speaker 1: the husband and I'm the husband with Abbie and she's
Speaker 1: the wife and and I'm like, oh Jesus, I gotta
Speaker 1: like please my wife. Oh god, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean it's like that's my like like that's my like
Speaker 1: butch little like fucking mask. Like I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I oh, I can I do somethingfo you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Whatever? And Um and Paul Luccio were
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I can't gender it, but they
Speaker 1: were the partner. They were the unit partner to our
Speaker 1: unit partner, you know. And like the fact that they're
Speaker 1: romantically together also was helpful. It's just helpful because it's like,
Speaker 1: at least we're not fucking slash. I wish we could
Speaker 1: just fuck to release attention, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So there was just like a helpful It was so
Speaker 1: magical and it's an experience with one other person that
Speaker 1: you can that no one understands. But do you guys
Speaker 1: some trip on shrooms and we tripped on I've done
Speaker 1: it three times. I enjoy it. I am I've done
Speaker 1: like some trips on shrooms. Um probably like Tanner under
Speaker 1: but um, I like really am overdue for when the
Speaker 1: last one it was in l A and it was
Speaker 1: like not cool, not no, it ain't And my my
Speaker 1: another one of my best friends, the one at the
Speaker 1: end of n y U where I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you can sell my friends in college. My
Speaker 1: best friend Anti lives in San Francisco. He met me
Speaker 1: in l A. We take shrooms on a lift up
Speaker 1: to like as a lift. As we're getting to the hike,
Speaker 1: we're losing service and we're like, how are we going
Speaker 1: to get back? And it was just obviously it was.
Speaker 1: It was a horrible trip. And I see m entertainment
Speaker 1: lawyer and ride home where l A. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I can't be tripping in l A. And I can't
Speaker 1: be tripping there or if I am, I know who
Speaker 1: has to do it, who has to guide me? I
Speaker 1: have like a and I should. So we're and I
Speaker 1: see him entertainment lawyer head to give us a ride
Speaker 1: home and I had to tell him we're tripping. He
Speaker 1: was like, row shitty, I've heard you know what I
Speaker 1: mean like, and I've heard of it, and it's like, bitch,
Speaker 1: you should fucking you should know every fucking episode. And
Speaker 1: also I take on too much responsibility in general and
Speaker 1: take on too many other people's experiences. I'm empathetic to
Speaker 1: a fault and I'm like going through the thing and
Speaker 1: I'm like recognizing and uh so I took the front
Speaker 1: seat and he took the back seat and it was
Speaker 1: not cool. He and like I was forced into a
Speaker 1: hug that I didn't want to give. And I had
Speaker 1: a terrible trip and that was January. So I'm like
Speaker 1: overdue for like a really good but really strong, mind
Speaker 1: losing trip to break open and then like come back together.
Speaker 1: Because also all the pieces are scattered, scattered for me,
Speaker 1: I need I need my I need for my brain
Speaker 1: to be an egg again, like to be broken open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I because I did shrooms last week at a party.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, but it just felt like mom, it
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I'm just time. I wasn't thinking
Speaker 1: about anything. Now I need to do it rich realistically.
Speaker 1: I've had so much loss this year and like I
Speaker 1: don't um well, kind of like the same thing with
Speaker 1: a handbook you were talking about that home that you
Speaker 1: were talking about throughout city. I'm like finding that about
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that about adulthood right now, like this new
Speaker 1: adulthood that the world is different, nobody can tell us,
Speaker 1: nobody knows how is to be, Uh, don't you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And like so I thought about that
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm like, what am I what's the model here? Like,
Speaker 1: what's the mental what's the plan? And we're like writing
Speaker 1: it for the future and then a rewrite it when
Speaker 1: it happens. But I honestly think that psychedelic journeys are
Speaker 1: a part of it. I think so too, because my
Speaker 1: trip came last year at the my first as a
Speaker 1: trip came at the exact right time. I truly I
Speaker 1: had a breakthrough. I called you the next day and
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, all the ship that we've been
Speaker 1: going through the last tower many months gone done. It
Speaker 1: was a switch. It was a switch that flipped in
Speaker 1: my brain. And then I did it again in October
Speaker 1: and it was fine. But I it's been like a
Speaker 1: year now. I'm like, I've the pieces feel scattered for me.
Speaker 1: Honestly right now, I'm just like what am I? Have
Speaker 1: you been taking stock or they just are you? Just
Speaker 1: like fuck scattered? It's been scattered. The last four days
Speaker 1: have been me taking stock and it's felt so much
Speaker 1: better already, but I'm still like, there's still I will
Speaker 1: like this will slip through my fingers again, especially like
Speaker 1: when fucking work starts and stuff. I'm just like I
Speaker 1: need to come back. I need to be recentered. I'm
Speaker 1: about to experience a huge monumental loss. And I know
Speaker 1: that's like that's like a lot to like put on
Speaker 1: this on you right now, but I'm just like, well whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's just I need to I need to be
Speaker 1: set right in some way, not and not to put
Speaker 1: this narrative, not to put this thing on drug used
Speaker 1: to be like it'll fix me now, And it's not
Speaker 1: drug us. This is actual like human experience, experience, like
Speaker 1: pre patriarchy. Yeah great. I think that we just as
Speaker 1: like and this is the thing. It's like as a
Speaker 1: culture we need to just like and I think that
Speaker 1: this is happening with our generation and the generations that
Speaker 1: are incoming. It's like we just need to shift our
Speaker 1: focus away from these being these like dangerous or like
Speaker 1: to me, they've been so helpful. Like I the first
Speaker 1: time I took acid, it was like, um, such, it
Speaker 1: was the most emotional day of my life and it
Speaker 1: was just like really, and you know what, since then,
Speaker 1: it has reconnected me with my emotions in a way
Speaker 1: where I'm just like so much happier now that I
Speaker 1: can say I'm an emotional person. I have access to
Speaker 1: my emotions in a way that like I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how trained I was to ignore them and to be
Speaker 1: kind of like a machine and stuff. And now I
Speaker 1: can really say, like, my emotions are a strength of mine.
Speaker 1: And it really just made me realize so much about myself.
Speaker 1: I I reconnected with the fact that I'm a very
Speaker 1: physical person. You know, hello, athletic scholarship. I mean, but
Speaker 1: what is even negotiating an athletic But that was but
Speaker 1: even but not to be real though, that was like
Speaker 1: a part of me. I remember, like we were Upstate
Speaker 1: when we did it, and I remember I just ran
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, it feels good to run
Speaker 1: intil the air in my lungs. This was something that
Speaker 1: I forgot and so it was incredibly helpful for me,
Speaker 1: Like I don't and you know, I also think it's
Speaker 1: about It's a lot about atmosphere, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: about where you are in your life. Because it's like
Speaker 1: I will, that's only going to be something that I
Speaker 1: do if I feel like I'm in the right zone
Speaker 1: and I feel like I need it for something that
Speaker 1: I can't figure out on my own. Because it has
Speaker 1: truly unlocked things for me that I was like that's
Speaker 1: what it was, and it was right here the whole time,
Speaker 1: but I just needed to clear my head a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so that's like, Um, that's been where I'm at
Speaker 1: with it. What does we do for you now there?
Speaker 1: Is it just a part of your life or does
Speaker 1: it still kind of does it chill you out? Like? Um?
Speaker 1: I always like, um, I always say something I always
Speaker 1: say is something I always say cracking myself up, repeating you,
Speaker 1: but I it always cracks me up. How I smoke
Speaker 1: weed and I'm like, oh, fuck am I, And then
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I've heard you say this before. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like oh yeo yo yo yo yo, and
Speaker 1: then there's that period of fear and then you're fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like it's I think it's like still remains this
Speaker 1: like funny little friend, this like silly little bitch who
Speaker 1: like makes me nervous, makes confront ship and then she
Speaker 1: chills with me as we giggle about like mental illness.
Speaker 1: So did you start into it because culturally, like people
Speaker 1: around you were really into had a really kind first
Speaker 1: boyfriend in high school who, um was the person that
Speaker 1: I learned about my thought symbols, penis and blunts and
Speaker 1: it was like the first time I was doing anything.
Speaker 1: I was a very like, very nervous kid and didn't
Speaker 1: and it was like a late bloomer in like that
Speaker 1: in that way sexually and um confused. And then also
Speaker 1: we I mean we smoked like Zach Britman. He was
Speaker 1: a great fucking boyfriend, such such a good boy, and
Speaker 1: he smoked so much. It was like dangerous for sure, um,
Speaker 1: dangerous for others as we drove, plazed out of our
Speaker 1: minds and children, I mean children driving as though you
Speaker 1: know I in your brain stops growing and changing. But
Speaker 1: before then, I'm like, you're actually like mushroom tripping all
Speaker 1: the time. It's it's so like so so I can't.
Speaker 1: I wish I could get fire, And that's why I
Speaker 1: need to be doing psychedelics more regularly. But weed is
Speaker 1: my like my marriage really that huge. So it's like
Speaker 1: I love her. It's been so interesting watching my parents
Speaker 1: kind of accept the fact that I smoke weed. Like
Speaker 1: my my parents listened to the podcast sometimes and we
Speaker 1: did talk about taking LSD of My mom called me
Speaker 1: and she was like, I don't think you need to
Speaker 1: be doing that ship and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the difference of opinion. Actually, like it's it's I'm able
Speaker 1: to be an adult and make my own decisions about this.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone needs to do it, Do whatever
Speaker 1: the funk you want. I just don't think we need
Speaker 1: to villainize it. But it's been so interesting watching them
Speaker 1: accept the fact that it is something marijuana that helps
Speaker 1: me and that I'm functional with and in fact more
Speaker 1: creative and productive sometimes when I do it, and I
Speaker 1: just think, it's like, it's that generational thing, right, It's
Speaker 1: that like sort of suburban long island thing where it's
Speaker 1: like or whatever wherever you're from, where it's just been
Speaker 1: fed to the generation above us that this is something
Speaker 1: to fear. And it's also so baby more culture and
Speaker 1: so get ready dominator culture versus partners. Dominated culture encompasses
Speaker 1: rape culture, slave culture, you know, systematic whatever it is,
Speaker 1: so dominator culture also to be like I feel this way,
Speaker 1: thus I dictate your experience. I don't like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get an abortion, so you can't have one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do LSD, so you shouldn't. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's scary if it's your kid,
Speaker 1: but it's like, ask questions, don't talk at me, ask
Speaker 1: me what it's like, and it's just exactly and it's
Speaker 1: just it's kind of like a it's just a misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: It's a generational sort of just gap where it's like
Speaker 1: and it's interesting to be in the place where it's
Speaker 1: like people we're tripping their balls government, Like doctors were
Speaker 1: tripping their balls off from government acid starting in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Like it's not I'm like, you guys should have been
Speaker 1: the pioneers. It's a little bit of like my mother
Speaker 1: was like a bartender in New York City in the eighties,
Speaker 1: so it's like she probably is seen she probably has
Speaker 1: like seen ship that she's like, like, sometimes I'll be
Speaker 1: doing or like and mix in a situation experience where
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I ever have children and I find
Speaker 1: out they're doing this, I'm gonna flip out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill them, Yeah, because this is so irresponsible for me
Speaker 1: to be doing. And so like I'm going to kid
Speaker 1: my kids some like um whatever, some issue to work
Speaker 1: out sexually in their teens. Truly, I need to. I
Speaker 1: always wonder that I'm like, how am I going to
Speaker 1: suck my child? Though? Oh, my god, what mistake. And
Speaker 1: if I even have a kid now insane to think
Speaker 1: of that. I think there probably is the right way
Speaker 1: to just punitively like bear down on your children enough
Speaker 1: for them to still be well adjusted. Like I like
Speaker 1: sort of pointing into a kid's chest and poking a
Speaker 1: sharply and deep like almost bruises and then just like
Speaker 1: I used to babysit a lot, and I'm like, really
Speaker 1: like a string babysitter until they bruise. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is insane, but we do have to do. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. I could fucking sit here for really
Speaker 1: hours and time. You love to come back. I would
Speaker 1: love to come back, and I'd love to be a
Speaker 1: reunion episode. You have things like you say things like
Speaker 1: reunion and say things like like this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a monumental change. It's not. I'm gonna be back all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm like literally keeping my apartment here. People
Speaker 1: have been messaging me being like, what's going to happen
Speaker 1: to the pod, you guys, nothing, It's gonna stay the same, nothing. Okay,
Speaker 1: just so that I would say that, but let's do
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This is our one minute
Speaker 1: to rail against something in pop culture that. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you, something needs to be railed against. We need
Speaker 1: to dress it down to something we hate in pop
Speaker 1: culture or life. And I do have something that's been
Speaker 1: really bothering me. Okay, all right, this is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, it's like confirmed that aliens are real. No,
Speaker 1: I will not have this. It's like, there's enough horrors
Speaker 1: in the world. You don't need to confirm my literal
Speaker 1: number one childhood fear with this area one garbage. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Every article I see that are like,
Speaker 1: guess what, Yes, UFOs are in this guy, Yes, we
Speaker 1: can confirm it. Also, I don't think so honey that
Speaker 1: if this is true, I guess we're like breezing over it.
Speaker 1: Talk about other things. This feels like an existential threat.
Speaker 1: I'll climate change, let's discuss it. So. I don't think, Sonny,
Speaker 1: aliens in the sky get truly away from me. If
Speaker 1: you're advanced enough to like bet in the sky around us,
Speaker 1: that means you probably have a fine planet to go
Speaker 1: there or find something else. If you are more advanced,
Speaker 1: like this is not the zone. Also, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: that you want to be here. You do not want
Speaker 1: to come to Earth right now, truly, Like there's probably
Speaker 1: so many other things that you can be doing than
Speaker 1: coming to Earth because Earth, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Right now you are truly on fire. You have bad
Speaker 1: leaders worldwide. Get somewhere else, Aliens, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: And also you probably look just as gross as you
Speaker 1: do in media popular media. And that's one minute. Yeah, aliens, Um,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of something right now, get away,
Speaker 1: come back? But what about help? I just do you
Speaker 1: think that aliens have benevolently come here? Honestly, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what if they're like boum and they just send a
Speaker 1: ring of energy that heals. Okay, so you be coming
Speaker 1: down like fucking us, you know what I mean? Like whatever,
Speaker 1: I guess, like that's the thing. And like, honestly, I'm like,
Speaker 1: if we needed to be fucked in all three holes
Speaker 1: or whatever to learn, I'm just like, if they if
Speaker 1: they could help. But obviously I don't want them to
Speaker 1: come here and ruin everything. But we're not the theorists.
Speaker 1: I don't know the theorists say that there's like there's
Speaker 1: like category one, two, three, four. I think that they're
Speaker 1: called categories. But like for an alien to be advanced,
Speaker 1: for an alien civilization to be advanced enough to come
Speaker 1: to Earth, that would mean that they are advanced enough
Speaker 1: to like harness like the energy of stars, and they
Speaker 1: would probably want to, like you, probably want to destroy
Speaker 1: us so they could harness the energy of our son
Speaker 1: to power there the right. So you're saying they would
Speaker 1: only come here to to to kill us, There's a
Speaker 1: very slim, slim chance that they would come here to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what's up? Well, because think about human nature,
Speaker 1: like we have historically only gone places to take them over.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's like, I'm sorry, like white male
Speaker 1: Viking nature, right? Is that every nature? Is that? That's
Speaker 1: an interesting point because I'm like, I try to distinguish
Speaker 1: humanity from the patriarchy. Thank you, thank you, but we're not,
Speaker 1: so we discussing something very other. And so I think
Speaker 1: the roots that may not apply. We could be dealing
Speaker 1: with an arrival situation where they come and the way
Speaker 1: they think and talk is like nonlinear, and then we
Speaker 1: have to figure that shit out. Get Amy Adams on
Speaker 1: the line, which because I can't be me. What are
Speaker 1: the aliens? And Arrival one again? They just wanted to
Speaker 1: like they wanted a gene or they wanted to they
Speaker 1: wanted something, they want they needed something, and then they
Speaker 1: had to leave. Yeah, it was I forget exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: All I know is I was weeping at the end
Speaker 1: of Arrival. I rested. I think I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was stone I think I went stone cold, sober,
Speaker 1: and like just I was high on like Amy's performance. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's actually real coaching be fourteen. I was high on
Speaker 1: a performance. That's my thing. I don't like aliens. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. It's not going to be a thing
Speaker 1: I get over either, like my fear of flying. It's
Speaker 1: it's I don't like them because you can't predict them.
Speaker 1: You can't. That's true. It's not humanity. It's not humanity.
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate that. That's a rule. Coach number aliens,
Speaker 1: it's not humanity, thank you. This is gonna be bowen yanks.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need his face idea so that
Speaker 1: I can unlock what is his phone? Okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: this is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, and
Speaker 1: he will start right now. Um, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Um jewelry. I looked at my rings and said, jewelry. No,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, jewelry. It cost too much and I
Speaker 1: lose you all the damn time. And um, speaking of jewelry,
Speaker 1: my jewel, I lose my jewel all the damn time.
Speaker 1: You guys this, I'm really just just just grasping at
Speaker 1: straws right now. But I think my jewel Actually, no,
Speaker 1: this is the bad thing about jewel my I. I
Speaker 1: had a friend, her name is Nora. A Lamina says,
Speaker 1: but when you should, you should, because um, you're gonna
Speaker 1: wake up and you're gonna get dry mouth, and um,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're quitting cigarettes, then the jewel is
Speaker 1: going to actually like coat your esophagus or your air,
Speaker 1: your trade with worship. And then she said that, and
Speaker 1: then she took a pull from her what jewel she's
Speaker 1: jeweling but she can't break out of the bicycle. Nora,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry and putting you on blast, but you know
Speaker 1: you're you're you're getting me worried, but you can't tell
Speaker 1: don't burate me, I gotta burate you back. Okay. So
Speaker 1: that became and I don't think so honey about Nora
Speaker 1: lam Aquaphena, which I hope you're okay with colleague's she
Speaker 1: she and I are going through the same struggle. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm trying to break out of, break from the
Speaker 1: chain of jewel and just let her know when I'm
Speaker 1: on the other side. Hey, it's possible. Come with, come with,
Speaker 1: come with Okay. I'm gonna add to that that my husband, David,
Speaker 1: my man partner, David. Um, I also want him to
Speaker 1: stop sucking jeweling, but we are a partnership culture couple,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell him what to do
Speaker 1: with his body. Don't you're not a dominated culture couple.
Speaker 1: And his partner how Tian that he does science. Um David,
Speaker 1: they went to China to like whatever talk um freaking
Speaker 1: like people with Chinese people with money for science stuff,
Speaker 1: and um David couldn't bring weed and he was very
Speaker 1: nervous and he picked up the freaking jewel and he's
Speaker 1: like telling me that he needs it at this time,
Speaker 1: and it's I'm like, dude, I'm gonna smack about to
Speaker 1: go and he's nervous about that's what happened. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: how Tian and David stop jeweling if the kids like
Speaker 1: die they're having mysterious long illnesses. I'm literally go back
Speaker 1: to cigarettes. It looks cooler. Yeah, you're right, it does
Speaker 1: look cooler. And then you get like a cold and
Speaker 1: you get sick, and you're like, oh god, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's now I'm actually nervous
Speaker 1: weed vapes. I'm kind of just going back to Flower.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, the ship, Like I love to smoke
Speaker 1: like Flower. I like to smoke a bowl. I am
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm doting now he smokes joints all
Speaker 1: the time. And the vapes, I'll say this, I like
Speaker 1: that I can have it on the go and it's
Speaker 1: like more and considra but and they're faster acting. I
Speaker 1: feel high immediately, well for me, but I it's weirder
Speaker 1: on my throat. It's I feel my lungs having a
Speaker 1: more difficult time. And also like this is a little
Speaker 1: bit weird. But like when I smoke a vape, like
Speaker 1: difficult for me to get horny on that. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it's been something I've I've observed.
Speaker 1: It's so cool to me that that is clear enough
Speaker 1: for you. I love that. I love it. It is clear.
Speaker 1: It is clear for me in this moment. It might
Speaker 1: not be true ultimately, narratives are so clear. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really interesting here in my body. Okay, it's time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have like a really dark one, talk about bleak
Speaker 1: but true my comedy. This is a lot of lazers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, hony. Your time starts now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Jeffrey Epstein, you think you
Speaker 1: can die out of all these accusations which you raped
Speaker 1: kids and you you had the low leader jet, I'm like,
Speaker 1: where has billions come from? I can't even read that, chick,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I already freaking no. And you're the
Speaker 1: way you made money was by sex trafficking children to
Speaker 1: the richest men in the world. You can't die out
Speaker 1: of this because you know what, we have a sexual predator,
Speaker 1: a proud sexual predator in office. And that's why the
Speaker 1: Rise of Me Too, That's why they takedown on Harvey West.
Speaker 1: That's why this ship is like popping off. You know now, um,
Speaker 1: I like always say L O L that, like we're
Speaker 1: popping a pimple right now, because I can't think that
Speaker 1: this is the end. I actually think it's the beginning
Speaker 1: and I need optimism or else like get mobidly depressed.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, actually, Jeffrey Epstein's death, his body doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The energy that he like put on this planet will
Speaker 1: not be forgotten. We're going to learn from it. You
Speaker 1: can't die out of this ship. And like your brother's like,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna keep his money. Trump's gonna be told,
Speaker 1: Clinton's gonna be told everybody like like wrote the jet
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence. It's on something you didn't realize.
Speaker 1: You knew it was creepy. You can't die out of
Speaker 1: this That's yes, man, j Honestly, thank you. Eat. My
Speaker 1: ass got to end because guess what if if if
Speaker 1: if he's going to be like a Sea Chaine for everyone,
Speaker 1: like he is pictured on that fucking plane with underage girls.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Prince Andrew. I'm like, she's like, come out
Speaker 1: about it, dude. I'm like, actually, just you say it.
Speaker 1: I don't care about jifree or whatever. And I actually
Speaker 1: don't care about Prince Andrew's like, whatever he has to say,
Speaker 1: you just tell me everything, because like, just just say
Speaker 1: everything Trump is. It's unbelievable how much footage we have.
Speaker 1: There is no doubt. Can I say that he sucked
Speaker 1: all those kids? You know what I mean? Like they
Speaker 1: fucked kids. And I'm like a sixteen year olds a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a child. And you know what, this is
Speaker 1: what I love too. The the new American crime story
Speaker 1: that's going to be about the Lewinski scandal. Um, you
Speaker 1: know what I think is fucking genius is casting because
Speaker 1: now people will understand that was young. She was young,
Speaker 1: and she was preyed upon, and people were like, Beanie
Speaker 1: is Monica out? She's so young. It's because she, Monica
Speaker 1: was young and taking advantage of and this entire country
Speaker 1: and the world laughed, and they made it about her
Speaker 1: and Hillary and the fact that he you know, he
Speaker 1: never answered for that really, and the fact that there's
Speaker 1: even more women. Yeah, goddamn right, We're gonna watch Beanie
Speaker 1: portray Monica Lewinsky because she was young, too young, and
Speaker 1: I and like, I'm just like Lolita jet like that's
Speaker 1: what they called it. The I'm just like stop hunting me,
Speaker 1: go fuck yourself. And you know what, like David was saying,
Speaker 1: I was like, we were like talking about it, and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, it's less trash on
Speaker 1: the earth, and like we don't need to suck a
Speaker 1: body to like uncover what this means systematically, So don't
Speaker 1: think that you can get out of it. And also
Speaker 1: people are like he was murder allegedly su said, I'm like, I,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, I believe that he would happily kill
Speaker 1: himself up to protect the patriarchy that was his number one.
Speaker 1: That was like purely like him, like not wanting to
Speaker 1: answer for anything and not and like wanting to take
Speaker 1: this knowledge that he has appear with him. I yes,
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, yes, And I think he was
Speaker 1: he would happily like slit his throat to suck the
Speaker 1: dick of patriarchy like he thinks he's like a like
Speaker 1: noble warrior's kind of what I think where he's where
Speaker 1: he's like we it was our he thought. I think
Speaker 1: he thinks it was his right to do that, and
Speaker 1: that he's like I will, I will protect these men,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, you won't, because those women have
Speaker 1: grown up and we're about to get your ass. That
Speaker 1: is so bleak, you know what it's it's confronted the
Speaker 1: reality of the world and saying actually no, and that
Speaker 1: that is like I'm like, I don't know what comedy
Speaker 1: is anymore, everything upside down. So comedy is like dark
Speaker 1: and like sad and ships. And it's like when people
Speaker 1: pretend like it's good for comedy or or just like
Speaker 1: whenever comedians speak out and really it's like, aren't you
Speaker 1: be a comedian? It's like, no, actually, I'm someone. I'm
Speaker 1: a person who uses my voice. And if you're laughing,
Speaker 1: that's cool and that and maybe if you if you're
Speaker 1: laughing enough to listen now like good. And I'm also
Speaker 1: like then those people are not on the edge of
Speaker 1: culture because comedy is like becoming something else right exactly.
Speaker 1: And it's like, are you Jeff Fox? Really? Fine? If
Speaker 1: you're Jef Fox? Really, I'm a comedian. So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm using my human voice because that's what it is now.
Speaker 1: It's like cohesion. I am thrilled about this episode of Glory.
Speaker 1: You could come back whatever yea myself right now because
Speaker 1: I want to You're so okay. After the special comes
Speaker 1: out in general January and Amazon Prime Video. We're going
Speaker 1: to get this episode out you mind it up for
Speaker 1: that up that special four months. So this islah blah,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna finish every We finish every episode of
Speaker 1: the song. Here we go, which one? Let's do my
Speaker 1: tall check my nails, baby, how you feel like? This
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