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Speaker 1: and we love that. But anyway, teeth in terms of Taylor,

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00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know. I mean, I'm I'm

423
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: out here saying that, UM just just to like quell

424
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: the truths, Like it's it's not that I think they're

425
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: well the anything else you want to address. UM. I also, okay,

426
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: the other thing was just Kirsten Dunce, she like would

427
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I wanted to tell you

428
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: like a story that once Abby and I were at

429
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: south By Southwest for Broad City, but what was the deal? Jesus, Well,

430
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: she may be there for far Ago or something. I

431
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: think so. And she was with Jesse Lemons and they

432
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: liked Broad City and they were like, you know, they

433
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: were so funny. They were like rowdy country kids and

434
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: they were like drunk and they're like, oh my god,

435
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I think it was like still

436
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: they were like quiet about their and um, it was funny.

437
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: They were just yeah, you know, drunk, and like I

438
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: think I wasn't. I don't like drank a ton. I

439
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: smoke more. So you know when you're like in that

440
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: point where it's like, you know, I'm like I don't know.

441
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: I was like I'm not at the same level. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

442
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: but when someone like that says they like what you do?

443
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go? You know where? And um,

444
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: it was cool. We just like set in a hotel

445
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: room and they were like really like buzzed. I've heard

446
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: she's like a very cool person. Yeah, she was really

447
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: like dorky. And I was like almost like like in

448
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 1: this like delicious, charming, sexy way, and it was almost like, um,

449
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, like how cute she is in Jumanji. You're like,

450
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: that's my friend and I have a crush on her

451
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, and like she's so cute,

452
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: but like also like she's also my friend, like she's

453
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: does like that, like it's still cool, you know, like

454
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: she was really cute and um, Jesse was cool too cool,

455
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: Like I don't even have I don't know, but that No,

456
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: that's that's great. I love that. And I'm not like, um,

457
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: I think like she would love Dunsta songs. I'm like

458
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: that would make them feel so cool and relevant because

459
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm like also, you guys, like like the whole narrative

460
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting from you about like the we've

461
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: been here since the beginning, even when you say Jumanji

462
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: like truly, Like Here's the thing about Kirston too, is

463
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: that in every one of her performance, not only are

464
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: they really good, but is like an iconic moment. And

465
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: each every one of her performances and her iconic moment.

466
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: And when they're in the supermarket and the evil Hunter

467
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: is like looking for them, she grabs the cashier's price gun,

468
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: points it in his eyes and goes price check yes,

469
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: and he goes because the light has gotten his in

470
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: his eyes and she's blinded him and she gets away

471
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're so good. And also one more

472
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: in fact, I'll go around and we'll say an iconic moment.

473
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, like I don't have I

474
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: want to I want to feed you and I want

475
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: you to go okay, So can I tell you one please?

476
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen Bringing On? You have iconic toothbrushing? Remember

477
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: we all remember they're just brushing their teeth. Her and

478
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Jess Brack kind of like getting wet because they're like

479
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: brushing that freaking yes, and it was so hot teens.

480
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: He was so hot at that time. He was so

481
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: hot at that time. And then he became even more

482
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: hot in the movie swim Fan, which we love, and

483
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: um wait, also you can't ever forget from bringing On.

484
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: Miss Eliza Douchku really just thinking about because she talked

485
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: about being like assaulted. Yes, she recently, and I just said, like, oh,

486
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: baby Brandon, she she's we actually we interviewed her at

487
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: was it Tribeca? It was she was so cool but

488
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: were sex this is but she was with her brother

489
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: and they had like shot a documentary about something there

490
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: was some queer asuse. It wasn't a documentary. It was

491
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: a film about that's right, Oh my god, that someone

492
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: didn't look at their notes. No, something about being gay?

493
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: No no, no. Yeah. So her brother like wrote directed

494
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: this Maplethorp movie. She produced it and they both produced it.

495
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: I think they both produced it, and it was Yeah,

496
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: she was so cool. It had Matt Smith from The

497
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: Crown or yeah, anyway, and she produced it. And also,

498
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: what's the iconic moment in virgin suicides? Oh? It has

499
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: it must be that a side suicide, virgin mom the

500
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: virgin suicide. But I'm like, is that right? I don't

501
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: even know right, I think she like hanging. The iconic

502
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: moment is that her character's name is LUs I think,

503
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: oh wow, I think we can fact check that anyway.

504
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Can we check that Kirsten's name in Virgion Suicie? Oh

505
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: my gosh. To get her on less cultures, we really do.

506
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: We would. Also, honestly, I'm like, cut together the Dunsta sons.

507
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: He make it like images, and then it's like, come on,

508
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: if we sat her reel of every time we've talked

509
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: about her on this podcast. By the way, I think

510
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: she might be the most the second most or third

511
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: most talked about cultural figure on this pod, after Kelly

512
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Clarkson and Swift, because I'm a Kelly Clarkson kind of girl.

513
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: I saw her like a commercial, like for a talk show,

514
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, she saw Rachel Ryan was like, I

515
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: can do that. That's me. She's like, I'm Rachel. Right

516
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: to wait. I bet she would die to have you

517
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: on why. Oh my gosh, that show. That's I'm scared.

518
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean, she'd be so fun. I bet it would

519
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: be so goofy that here's my impression of a Kelly

520
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Parkson interviewing Elana at her show. Oh my god, that's

521
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: so cool. You got to do a show with your

522
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: best friend that I've never got to see my best

523
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: friend because I was on the road. What my house

524
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: is my best friend? Oh that's cute. Okay, you're selling

525
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: me on it. Yeah, I ask her on it, honestly,

526
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: just d M, that's so funny. My literal dream is

527
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: to meet her just once and not weep because every

528
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: I literally, dude, my dream is for you to meet

529
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: her and week I had an opportunity to meet her

530
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't take kid because I got to wait.

531
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for that because I'm like, you'll meet her

532
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: on your time's right there, Yeah, she's right there. I

533
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: don't want it to be like a moment where like

534
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it would be a lot. Do you

535
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: want to is your thing that you want to be

536
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: a little not you don't want to come out it

537
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: just from an angle of fanhood. I want to be

538
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: able to you want to be like you want to

539
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: not be her equal like I want to. You gotta be.

540
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: You gotta be like I would like to meet her

541
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: with purpose and I would like to be measured enough

542
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: to be able to like tell her that she was

543
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: important to make great because I was a little gay

544
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: boy on Long Island and when American Idol happened, it

545
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: was like, um, it was a moment for me because okay,

546
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: this is like this will get a little real. But

547
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: I remember seeing like America fall in love with her

548
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: and it seemed like she was just being herself and

549
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, maybe one day I can be

550
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: myself and people will like it. Like it was very

551
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: it was like if you love this, when when no, no,

552
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: get out of here, She's gonna love this, Remember, she

553
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: said Kelly. Who's like that for you though? Who have

554
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: you met anyone that you've been like, oh, like RuPaul.

555
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: I met RuPaul. I was like, I feel I can't

556
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: even explain it. I'm like, I feel like I'm RuPaul's child.

557
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: I remember, like had that VH one show. I'm like,

558
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I just felt like and like we will come back

559
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: in my culture thing later. Like I'm like, I just

560
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: always felt seen. It's so weird. But like seeing I

561
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: mean whatever, seeing heard by Ru and also Ru like

562
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: made me feel as a kid, like the world I

563
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: want to be in is out there when I finished

564
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: high school, yeah, and can get out of here. And

565
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: finally like comment, oh my god, you fantasy And it's

566
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: not like I'm not like a black drag queen, you

567
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's like I was like,

568
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, that world is You're still communing with

569
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: the world through Roo. Yes, And it was like playfulness

570
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: and invitation and welcoming and like um thick joy thick

571
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: joy um. But that is very where I'm just like,

572
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: fuck that that was, and and like I'm so grateful

573
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: for purpose, but it it does um in general, and

574
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: like such a I work so much and I'm now

575
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that Broad City is over. I'm like trying to make

576
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: um room intentionally for real life abbeys too, We're like, wow, um,

577
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: but the purpose actually, I think it's actually so beautiful

578
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that you like, for you to meet Kelly when I

579
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: go on her show, for you to meet her with

580
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: me is like to cry because I'm like, I wish

581
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: I could have done that, but I was like, we

582
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: got to read our lines. Um, you want to run it.

583
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: You want to run it like Mars has given me

584
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: the opportunity to issue like presence and processing, and I

585
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: am noticing like the limb I'm missing right now because

586
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: even leaning too far into purpose, is that what you're saying? Yeah,

587
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: And I've been so productive and I'm like I'm a

588
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: fucking productivity queen. Like but you know, it's like I

589
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: need some like space and quiet to be like our

590
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: word group. I'm not gonna say that our word into Mike,

591
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: but like our word group and just like primordial group.

592
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: And I really need to like do it like intentional journey,

593
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like to give that space

594
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: for that to check in with yourself and have those

595
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: moments like real yes, yeah, I totally hear you. Yeah,

596
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. Do you want to get like really

597
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: really do you want to get like really because this

598
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: feels like such a safe space and I'm like it

599
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: would be so chilled to just be like present and real.

600
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: It's also like, you know, for like a gay boy

601
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: on Long Island, like I was just so would just

602
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: look at Elliott, my brother for culture and I'm like,

603
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: that's what culture is, That's who I am, you know,

604
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: like Elliott was like my guide and like guiding light.

605
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: And it's like my journey as like a queer person

606
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: is like happening through broad City in real time, and

607
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like as clear as um you know, like

608
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: and you remind me of my best friend Andrew, and

609
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: it's like it was so clear. Friend, we were like

610
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: first friends in kindergarten if you can't believe literally I remember,

611
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, like twenty seven years of friend. I

612
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: have a but also Long Island like where we have

613
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: this like we've made it fifty five miles away, you

614
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's this small world. I

615
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: have like a few of those friends, but are like

616
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: journey together, you know. For boys, it's it's so um

617
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: it's so much clearer here, Like I'm not like these

618
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: other boys, you know, and as a girl, and like

619
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I want to be the girl. I want to be

620
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: like in the girl or whatever. And it's like my

621
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: journey is like opening up through Broad City and Abby

622
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: two look at her like queer journey and how she

623
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: shared that, you know, and like, um, it's just what

624
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: was it that I was like connecting it back to

625
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: just that you're You're narrative is so clear, yeah, you know,

626
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: and my narrative is clear through Broad City. But I'm like,

627
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I honestly want like part of me wishes that I

628
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: just met Rue broke down and cried it but instead

629
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: of like really love it, and I'm like numb, you know,

630
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: and I kind of numb out when I'm like, uh,

631
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: that's just like my defense mechanism and body does that.

632
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: But I think it would be like I wish I

633
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: did like cry and ruse arms, you know, I don't.

634
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's weird because it was that moment. It

635
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: was that moment like before it was real, and then

636
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I wonder what would have happened had I been like

637
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: in front of her or in front of my hero.

638
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: But um, it is that thing where sometimes you feel

639
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: like you're having an out of body experience when and

640
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: so you're you're not in your body your body when

641
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: I Yeah, when I would like have like like nervous

642
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: breakdowns in college and like comedy, I would feel really

643
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: like dissociative, and that's how I feel now, but in

644
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: a productive way. And it's like I want to like

645
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: break that open. What does it look like you dissociate

646
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: and then and then you work or what? Well, it's

647
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: even like um meeting rough, I'm like, so we are

648
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: so honored to have you on this, I mean beyond

649
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: like I grew up like yeah, yeah, this is so crazy.

650
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: Let me know anything you need and we'll say, well, yeah, yeah,

651
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: we're just gonna jump in, you know. And it's like okay,

652
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: like stop screaming, stop screaming, you know, and like and

653
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: then even like I mean, I I just like tried

654
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: to like allow myself at least I can be quietly amazed, stunned,

655
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: dumb stunned like that. But like it it's kind of

656
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: this like offshoot of like the numb thing I'm talking about,

657
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: but like yeah, you know that kind of thing. And

658
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: then I'm like guys, guys, what we gotta do is, um,

659
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, did anybody get on you know, like it's

660
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: just like being productive to be productive, and I'm realizing

661
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: that's also an avoidance too. That looks really good and

662
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: like does move things along, but like there's a different

663
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: way I want to do things that pressure. Also, when

664
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: you have someone on your literal show, it's like you

665
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: do have to do that where it's like you are

666
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: sort of like there and you're like the person like

667
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: you you and like Abby were the kind of like

668
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: they're like you are their host. And so it's the

669
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: responsibility to that, but also the responsibility to yourself to

670
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: be to like not have this moment passed you by

671
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: and like not be able to tell someone like I'll

672
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: be real. We had Margaret Show on this show my

673
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: number one when I was when I was like fucking

674
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: online Island, being gay, shutting the door behind me, plugging

675
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: in my computer on my headphones so my parents wouldn't

676
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: hear me listening to this content and like, um, really

677
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, like was was expounding sort

678
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: of like these this humor that I didn't know why

679
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I connected to, but I did, and I was truly young,

680
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: and like I didn't understand like what a douche was,

681
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: but I knew that her doing stand up about it

682
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: was funny to me, Like I didn't understand all this

683
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: exclusively gay humor. And then we traveled to her to

684
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: have her on this podcast and um she was upstate

685
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: New York doing a show, and I think that it

686
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: was kind of just we literally it was the first

687
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: time we ever traveled for anyone. And I'm also it

688
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: was so literally I was so nervous beforehand, like bone

689
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: can tell you. I was like rearranging the chairs in

690
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: the hotel and we went and for her it's just

691
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: like it was a normal fucking day because she doesn't

692
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: know that. But but I mean, we kind of sat

693
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: down and I was like, I can like chicken out

694
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: right now, or I can say like that you meant

695
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: made such a difference to me. And I did say that,

696
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: and I think she kind of received it like Okay, cool, thanks,

697
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: but did it feel for you? But I'm happy I

698
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: did it. It's satisfied the thing that you call. I'm

699
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: really happy I did it. What town do you grow

700
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: up in? Ice Slip? Oh my gosh, why where are

701
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: you from? St. James. We were like fifteen minutes away.

702
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: But yet world, did you watch Strong Island? What is

703
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: Strong Islands? Um? It's like an extremely painful but unbelievably

704
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: gorgeous document documentary. My friend who one of my best friends,

705
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: who is from Upstates is documentary and I've like, I've

706
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: permaded that and it's terrible. So I had to work

707
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: to say documentary. But it takes place in East Ice.

708
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: Slip and I slip and it's like eighteen years earlier.

709
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I have to see it. I can't believe I haven't

710
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: seen it. If it takes place in Ice, make space

711
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: to break open and like feel the history of the

712
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: country in your spine, you know what I mean, like

713
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: yearn and change it. Yeah, it's powerful. Yeah, it's actually

714
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: like it's such an interesting place to grow up, I

715
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: think because you kind of like grow up and you're

716
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: there and you think, like this is every town man,

717
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: this is like we're we are we're living in it,

718
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: and we're also like on the right side of history

719
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: and this is how you live. And then you kind

720
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: of look at it from the outside and you look

721
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: at it like a queer from a queer point of view,

722
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: when you can kind of see it, and now looking back,

723
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, like I really I'm I'm I'm proud

724
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: to come from there, and I'm happy to come from there.

725
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: But when I see sometimes like how thick the patriarchy

726
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: is there? Yeah, why are you proud to come from

727
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: Maybe I said that because I don't want to hurt

728
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: people's feelings. Maybe that's why I just said that in Colorado, Aurora,

729
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: So where where that? And it's like twenty minutes outside

730
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: of Denver. Just the separate It's truly, this is the

731
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: thing about this is the thing about Denver and this

732
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: I truly felt that when I went back last week

733
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: for the show. It was a great show, was a

734
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: great crowd. I love Denver so much. Being there, like

735
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: existing there feels like you are in for me, at

736
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: least someone who's like not super outdoors, you're not super

737
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: into sports or not super to like skiing and ship

738
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: I mean I ski whatever. Um, it feels like you're

739
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: living like in purgatory. It feels like literal like literally

740
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: your in suspension. You you do not know which direction

741
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: to go in l A's over there, New York's over there.

742
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: You're like where where where? Where? Should I end up

743
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: because you guys have this direct directional thing of like, well,

744
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: we're fifty five miles outside of New York or whatever,

745
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and it's like you guys know where to go at

746
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: least in some general Yeah, you were, you were headed

747
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: to the city to get out of that situation. I

748
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: want to qualify what one thing, which is that I

749
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: think that breakdown deconstructed and eventually expire. I want to

750
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: say I think that people on Long Island have big hearts,

751
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: but I often think that it's like they always mean well,

752
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: and it's just and I do think that they don't

753
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: understand the sort of microaggressions and sort of things that

754
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: like hurt people from marginalized community when when especially when

755
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: they don't know they're part of one, like coming of

756
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: age there and just being on the outside of everything

757
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: and not really knowing why, but knowing why. I was like,

758
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I know, it's not everyone's fault, it's the fault of

759
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: like sort of like a system that says to men,

760
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: like you tell your wife what to do, it says

761
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, when emin eminem was huge

762
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: when we were in like elementary school and middle school,

763
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: high school. I'm sure, and to have that be the

764
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: most prominent cultural figure in a community where they are

765
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: already told and they already can view like the fact

766
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: that like there's no gay people in media, there's at

767
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: that time, there's you know, men yell at their wives

768
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: because I can't breathe because I get excited and I

769
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: like miss like my normal breath. So I'm just like

770
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: damming because I need to like gas. But you know

771
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But you know, that is literally gorgeous.

772
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you can you have

773
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: the awareness of the air. Yea. It happens so often

774
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: and people look at my mouth and flared nostrils as

775
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: I like try to mask a on in their face,

776
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, and it's better to admit

777
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: and like and I'm gonna one day be over it.

778
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: But I understand. You can literally see you getting what

779
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying because it's like every and I can tell

780
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: it's true because like when I came out of the

781
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: closet to people, they were so quick to love and

782
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: accept me, like I really had an easy time. What

783
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm really appreciating is the big hearts part the patriarchy

784
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: be tick that like I really appreciate that. It's like

785
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: we are Long Island is the first suburb. It's like

786
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: the science lab for the suburb. How long do we have? Um,

787
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: it's the and it's the prototypical suburbs. So everything there

788
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: and also in New York is so such a wild place.

789
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Like it is as racist as it is not racist,

790
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: as woman hating and woman violent as it is feminist

791
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: in a space for women to be strong. It is

792
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: as gay as it is homophobic and here and um,

793
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm obsessed with Long Island, but I

794
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: really appreciate, appreciate the big hearts thing because I'm I'm

795
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: picturing my best friend's parents, who are Italian voted for Trump.

796
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: So I didn't grow up with Jews. I grew up

797
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: with like Italian Americans and like the Irish people, and

798
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: then also just other white people who like and it's

799
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: interesting like Italian Americans like select when they are ethnic

800
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: and when they are white kind of like also who

801
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Jews are, like, um, they like will will cash in

802
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: their like white currency. They're they're patriarchy points and when

803
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: they want and then other times they're like do you

804
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: remember the Holocaust? No one forgets the Holocaust honestly, like

805
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: everybody will remember, like honestly like remember, and I'm like

806
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, like, it's not about remembering that is what

807
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: we need. It's you know what I mean, It's like

808
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: about not it's about putting our money in the right

809
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: place and like speaking up because it's not about the Holocaust,

810
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: like that's happening to in our country to like children,

811
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: brown children like you know, um, and I can picture

812
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: my I'm so close actually with my best friend's parents

813
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: who voted for Trump. I love them and like I

814
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: just saw them recently and I'm like if I like,

815
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten there yet, but if I talked to

816
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: them about it, they would cry. They would like weep

817
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: and cry and feel so bad. And it's and they

818
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: are like really Catholic and like they you know, are

819
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 1: very they believe in something and they have huge hearts

820
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: and it's, um, my parents. I've been like, thank God,

821
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't have to do like the white person thing

822
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: of talking to my parents at the dinner table. But

823
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: it's like, well, then talk to other people's parents because

824
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I have like these I have these friends for years,

825
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, and it's like then talk talk to

826
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Jenny's parents, you know what I mean, like because they

827
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: would they would be receptive, they'd weep if I was

828
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: talking about this to them, and like that big hearts element.

829
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: There is such a strong piece that I've been uh

830
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: missing that I think that I think that is what

831
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: it is. And I will say, Um, the reason why

832
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: it's challenging, I think to talk to people on Long Island,

833
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: like or in any suburb or some sort of any

834
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: conservative person that you care about, is because when you

835
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: go back to see those people, you step into an

836
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: atmosphere wherein historically you've been closeted and you've been restricted,

837
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: and you've been sort of cultured to shut the funk up.

838
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: And so to go back into that environment and even

839
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: be the person that you are now, which is someone

840
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: who speaks up, which is someone who communicates, is hard

841
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: because we've been classically fucking conditioned two be small in

842
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: that space. It's violent. I always call the air of

843
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Long Island like sexually violent, because okay, can I can

844
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: I ask you a Colorado question? So it's like, do

845
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: you see this insane like pressure that we have like

846
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: around our narrative? No, I absolutely, And this is what

847
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about with a clear narrative, because I did

848
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: not have a clear name. That's what I'm saying about Colorado.

849
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: There's no clear narrative. And call in New York is

850
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm the star of the yeah, because like

851
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: so many movies are made here and America, like we

852
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: think we're the star of the fucking movie from coast

853
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: to coast, and like now in the middle, it's like

854
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: we are the stars of the movie too. Otherwise we're

855
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna like, you know, it's like the divide or whatever. Um.

856
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: But for you guys, for you guys talking about Long Island,

857
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: it's just very interesting because it's like I said, like

858
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: there's a gradient like about which you guys moved towards

859
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: New York you go west, literally there is one. There's

860
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: the big city. Yeah. Yeah, So it's going to about

861
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: it being in the middle of the country, which is

862
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: like where do you go because Denver and Denver and

863
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, okay it's really quickly he really quickly, really,

864
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, please take your time. Pat and I

865
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: were in Denver, um eating a legal pizza downtown. I

866
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: wanted to show show Pat this like fun Denver burrito

867
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: place and then this I feel this aggressive tap on

868
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: my shoulder and I turned around and before he even

869
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: turned around, this girl goes, do you remember me? It was?

870
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: It was, it was fine. But then and then I

871
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: and a miracle happened. I said, Brittany Colston. First and

872
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: last name came right back to me. I said, Brittney Coleston.

873
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm using her real name. Yeah, she will never

874
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: listen to this. And also, thank you God. I love

875
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: that miracle than program in humanity is the biggest like

876
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: miracle there is. Thank you, Thank you Bryan Ryan with

877
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: a Jden Ryan. And then and then I think she

878
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: did not remember my name. She did not remember you, stupid.

879
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: But then but then she's like, she's like, hi, how

880
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: are you. We catch up and she's doing she's like

881
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: my boyfriends over there. She she's you know whatever, she's

882
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: she's very nice and I don't remember you. I have

883
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: a boyfriend there literally and hack and now for this

884
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: and then oh another Long Island Queen Royalty. And then

885
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: then I catch up with her and I'm like, how

886
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: are you doing? And she goes, God, she goes, didn't

887
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: she she was just like, you left Denver, right, I

888
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I did. I was like in New

889
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: York now, and she goes, wow, because you know the

890
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: people she goes because the people who leave they never

891
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: come back. I don't know what to say. And then

892
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: and then like bless her heart, she goes, um, wow,

893
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe you remember me, but like I guess,

894
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: I guess Asian people have very good memories. She did not.

895
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: And that's why you leave. And ultimately that's why you

896
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: leave it because you don't say she actually and this

897
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: is another miracle, a miracle happened. I was just I

898
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: just like I was very impressed with myself at how

899
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: I just was like I just didn't laugh it off,

900
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: didn't like, oh wow, ship, good for you. I was

901
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: so neutral. I was like I didn't even chump. I

902
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: was like, hm, I just did that. I was like, oh, yeah,

903
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: she's good. You know. It like becomes like I'm smelling

904
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: something bad right right, And she would not but she

905
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: would not leave, and she didn't and she was like

906
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: obviously a white woman, so she that was a twist.

907
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: I honestly like this reverse Long Island racism where we

908
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: think we know that's a twist anyway, race is this person.

909
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: She's luck but she you know, but she's truly like Okay,

910
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. It's just like she was

911
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: just like she's like yeah wow, but she was truly

912
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: like the bleak moment was like the people who leave

913
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: do not come. Oh okay, I have like some additions. Okay.

914
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: So I was a waitress at the Blty Breakfast lunch

915
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: and take out from fourteen to eighteen. Okay, I learned,

916
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: my god, where was that at the same times at

917
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: the Sint Gimes train station just off the hundred yards dred.

918
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Sorry guys, I do meeters Readers' Rights train station and

919
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: um and uh, so I really studied and learned. Um,

920
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: I got like an early masters in the socio economic

921
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: um structures of Long Island are like segregated white Long

922
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Island and like Mafia Long Island. I'll just leave it there.

923
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: So before so I was yeah, I um because like

924
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: screaming into that. So um, I was about to go

925
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: at n y U, which I want to talk about

926
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Religi and um oh you went sid way to escape

927
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: ticket but also evil. So um. Two things. One was

928
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: like I was like, yeah, I got accepted into n

929
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: y U. I had brought in UM Andrew Bristler, who

930
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: was UM called a fagot under the like owner's breaths.

931
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: He was like abused as a teenager UM by the

932
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: violent masculinity there. I brought in another gave us friend

933
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: who was UM, who like was safer because of how

934
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: he presented. And UM and this guy two things like

935
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: I was telling people this is my last day or whatever,

936
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: like I'm leaving soon, and this guy was like, I

937
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: don't go I I haven't been to New York City

938
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: in thirty five years. Avoids the city, like you know

939
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: by the tribro and then we'll just go north or

940
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: like it goes to Jersey. I don't even know what

941
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: the he comated Jersey never has to go to my

942
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: hat And I'm like, how you know what I mean?

943
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: And then this other woman I was remembering this the

944
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: other day, Alice, who got eggs and mustard um, and

945
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: she was like, you're gonna think I'm crazy, but now

946
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: I eat actually eggs and mustard like Alice. But she

947
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: told me when I go to n y U don't

948
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: get tainted. Don't get tainted. And that's that's what it is,

949
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: and that that's the teller right there. But that's the

950
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: tell don't get tainted. That's how you know. It's intense

951
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: fear that they math with pride. Yes, they say, it's

952
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: like we are from our hometown and we're proud to

953
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: be and we don't need anything else. It's fear like

954
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: she's providing safety for me, protection for me. I'm like,

955
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I feel unprotected right now. I feel unsafe right now

956
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: because I don't because I think you you actually hate

957
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: me if you knew who I was right right. And

958
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: that is another thing about fear. Yeah, that's the fear

959
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: in like sharing and really sort of I always say,

960
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: like I always say, it is a thing. One of

961
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: the things I always say is, um, like, when you

962
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: come out in whatever way you come out, and then

963
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: you have to keep coming out right, So it's like

964
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: you come out as queer, gay, whatever that you are,

965
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: and then you have to come out with your interests,

966
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: you have to come out with your opinions, you have

967
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: to come out with your experiences, and so that is

968
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: hard to share with people who you who have been,

969
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: who you've been cultured and designed to see in certain

970
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: ways because they could look at you and be like wow, um,

971
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: either I have to confront myself and change a lot

972
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: of my perceptions and ideas, or I am just gonna

973
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: stay being afraid of you and not understanding you and

974
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: sort of weirdly hating you. Well, here's the thing. Queerness

975
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: is never absolute. It's always like queerness is the beam

976
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: of light. And then you're you're constantly being presented different

977
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: like prisons to refract them. So like the prison is

978
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be sucking Alice one day where you're where she's like,

979
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: don't let it taint you, and You're like, what does

980
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: that mean? It's like you just the thousand joys and

981
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: sorrows everything per person, where you just have to like

982
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: know what to how to respond to an Alice or

983
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Bert Newkolston or a fucking whoever whoever in Long Island,

984
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: like gave you ship. I don't know, Oh my god,

985
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: everyone everyone okay because you because you were just there

986
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: for a minute and then you know you did. I

987
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: went to UM I did psych and child psych and

988
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: it was fucking sick, and I'm literally like yes, actually

989
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: first um GSP GSP, like kids with public school education

990
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: for real aren't so smart. Honestly, that was so smart.

991
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: And he's a lot of Long Island. People were GSP. Yeah,

992
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: LSP as they called it. When I was there, Liberal

993
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Studies liberally started changes to Liberally. They're like General Think,

994
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: I think because they knew that General Studies program like

995
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: sounded shady like to the kids because my money actually

996
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: going to end like whatever. But it was great because I, um,

997
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: do you guys know Matt Stupira, he's a writer. Yeah,

998
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: he's one of one of my best friends. I seriously

999
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: have like best friends, and I love New York for

1000
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: that reason. I keep it here. Um, So met Sears,

1001
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: my best friend, and we met there and John. I

1002
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: had two friends at n y U. I found it

1003
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: extremely hard to make friends, and then I made my

1004
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: other best friend into later. But that was it. I

1005
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: was like, I have two friends. This school is too big.

1006
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: It was I gotta go to comedy. Did you guys

1007
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: enter comedy while you're in college? Yes? Well we were,

1008
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: and so I was in Hammercuts and Boonen was in Danger. Okay,

1009
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: so you guys were both in Tish. No I wasn't.

1010
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: I am still jealous. I am still resentful, are you really?

1011
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: That was because, yeah, it was like one of those

1012
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: classic stories of like did you audition and not get it. Okay,

1013
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: there was no you couldn't unless you were Tish And

1014
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: I was like I don't even say s m g

1015
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: SP bitch. And then the other thing was like I

1016
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: like looked into I was just like, is there a

1017
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: way to transfer to Tish? I got to be and

1018
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: it was like you had to pay like another four

1019
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars per class and I was like already on

1020
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: aid or whatever, and I was like, oh funk this.

1021
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: And then also like to just do comedy it was dope. Yeah,

1022
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I like, also I loved the I love psych and

1023
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: ship Yeah, because cool. But you were you going up

1024
00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: to you? Were you like energy? So when you say

1025
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: like you you started doing comedy like that was like

1026
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: you went to UCB, Yeah, I mean you CEB. And

1027
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: also like, oh my god, there used to be oh gosh,

1028
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: there raffifi. You weren't oh I hank like such a thing.

1029
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: I remember moving to New York. I was like researching.

1030
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: I was such a fucking And then I was just

1031
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: like these are the these are the spots to go

1032
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: to the tank that raffifi like there used to be

1033
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: like the whatever is happening? Corporate capitalism gentrification wise, like

1034
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: I've seen in like the pattern of there used to

1035
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: be like many small um pleasing to do comedy, but

1036
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: now there's not even like the big places to do it.

1037
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I know it's wild, it's so wild what is happening.

1038
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: But like I talk like just I don't know. Being

1039
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: here it's like making me feel better about having gone

1040
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: to ny U because you know, I really loved a

1041
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: post you wrote once about how and I was like

1042
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: a real estate company that have classes, which is true,

1043
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: and um, I uh, you know, it's like a ticket

1044
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: that you buy from out of out of city to

1045
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: invest in the city, and if you can afford it,

1046
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: you get to like get a foothold in the city.

1047
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: And it's like something that I used to feel like

1048
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: so guilty, but and I guess I still do. But

1049
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is that's the that's where I

1050
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: was born into and what I was able to do,

1051
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: and that was my plan and here I am. I

1052
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's like you have to also

1053
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: give yourselves some credit because the fact of the matter

1054
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: is we were born into and raised in a system

1055
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: that said you go to college at eighteen, and so

1056
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: where do you go when you go to New York,

1057
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: you what you I don't know about you. I played

1058
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: everywhere in the New York City area. I played early

1059
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: decision to Columbia. Didn't get in, but almost when in

1060
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: an athletic scholarship, if you can believe that, across country

1061
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: and track. And then I didn't get in there because

1062
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't smart enough or my test wars weren't good enough.

1063
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: But I did get into n y U through through

1064
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: GSP slash LSP, so I I was not it was

1065
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: a regular thing. So I had applied religion to Columbia,

1066
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: didn't get in, and then I had I had applied

1067
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: other places and then got into n y U and

1068
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: did that because I did suffer from at the time,

1069
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: like I want to go to a good school. And

1070
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, n y US one of

1071
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: the new Ivys, and it was, and that was what

1072
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: they were very much saying that I don't know, recycle

1073
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: just now. Yeah, me being like closeted, try hard, like

1074
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: let me let me look so good in every other

1075
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: area of my life so that when people find out

1076
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm gay, that I don't literally write me off. I said,

1077
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: let's go to n y U. It's a good school. Begged,

1078
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: not begged, but like sort of like with my eyes

1079
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: were like pleased to my parents, like where this will

1080
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: pay off? And I did get some financial aid, ended

1081
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: up being an r A and did everything I could

1082
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: to make that work, to justify it. I couldn't be

1083
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: an r A. Like audition twice Yeah, fuck, I think

1084
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: they could tell I really didn't want to do it

1085
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: in spuns a lot a week. Um. Yeah, So you

1086
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: guys did all four years four year okay in your research,

1087
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: So you were already researching comedy before you came. This

1088
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: is this is this is what was happening. I was

1089
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: good to do premed no matter what pretty bad I was.

1090
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: I was doing like oh but like listeners know this,

1091
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: but I just um but I was going on these

1092
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: college stores being like is there a comedy group here?

1093
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: Like Northwestern being like so Titanic players when you guys

1094
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: do auditions, I was like truly horrid, a terrible kid.

1095
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: And then it was it was between U c l

1096
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: A and my U and I was researching the people

1097
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: in the group at n y U. I was researching

1098
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: Danger Box and Hammercats. I was like, I'm not a writer,

1099
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm more of an improviser. I'm not so Hammercats wasn't

1100
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: even like really like no, not for me, but you

1101
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 1: have your sites. My sites were set on fucking danger Box.

1102
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: You wanted it bad, and I wanted it so bad.

1103
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: I think I got into that group. I share force

1104
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: of will. I had never acted are written before. That

1105
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: was my first audition ever, and I remember, just like

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: I'll say, I fucking crushed. It was literally because I

1107
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: was like, I am fighting for my life. I remember

1108
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: sitting on my bed crying. My freshman year closeted horrible.

1109
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: And then I literally went to my computer and was like,

1110
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: who do I look up to most in the world?

1111
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: So funny Amy Poehler. I typed in her name, Amy Poehler,

1112
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's she said that she was in her college

1113
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: improv group, and she did, and she was like UCB

1114
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: that she started it. And so I signed up for

1115
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: a UCB class and was like, I'm going to audition

1116
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: for both of these comedy groups and I'm going to

1117
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: get in one of them. Got cut first round of

1118
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: Danger Box I'll Never Forgive, and then made it into Hammercats.

1119
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: And then I was because he thinks it's my fault. Oh, no,

1120
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: this is a good story. So I was auditioning for

1121
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: the Danger Box Improv group and Bowen had been in

1122
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: the group for one He came over to me and

1123
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Matt heard this is so great that

1124
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: you're auditioning. And I was like, yeah, I'm really excited.

1125
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: I took a UCB improv class over the summer and

1126
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: he said, that's cute. Well, i'll see you in there.

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: I heard you're really funny, so it should be good

1128
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: first round. I did not k that's the energy you remember,

1129
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: That's not the energy he came over. He was, but

1130
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: not even the energy. Literally, readers, goddamn. If you can

1131
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: imagine a time when Bone Dang and I didn't really

1132
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: know each other and he came over to me in

1133
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: an audition setting where I was there, I did not

1134
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: give you that vibe at all, but you didn't but it.

1135
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: But it was so funny because to now think about that, now,

1136
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's so funny. But you put my

1137
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: my pleasant interaction with you through your stupid Rube Goldberg

1138
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: machine in your brain and then you spit it out

1139
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: and said Bone was really rude to me. Excuse me,

1140
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: what's that movie? Rushamone. Yeah, that's rushamone. It's actually Rule

1141
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: Culture number six. What's that movie? Anyway? Um? I was researching,

1142
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: but and then I sent and Andres a message on

1143
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: Facebook being like, Hi, when are the Welcome Week shows?

1144
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: When we're near the auditions? Like I would love to go.

1145
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: It's such a April April two anyway, Oh my gosh.

1146
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: And it's like Obama's president Bush bush Era, fucking dumbass.

1147
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: I can't we want to shoot in the bush Era

1148
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: for a minute, for a minute, for a hot sack.

1149
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: You went to school in the bush Era? Yeah, I'm

1150
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: thirty two. You guys are two thousand, thousand twelve. That

1151
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: was I'm like fried, I have like you know, I'm

1152
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: like I love myself and all this, but like I'm

1153
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: just like my we're feel we're feeling the gen z

1154
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: is fucking nipping in our heels. Can you believe there's

1155
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: someone called Billie Eilish and she's very famous. Yeah, wild crazy,

1156
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: she's so famous and it's like wild, like when when

1157
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: someone is truly twelve thousand five Sorry yeah it was

1158
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: when I entered Yeah, yeah, so when someone is truly

1159
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 1: truly young and there she's so funny. It's like, okay,

1160
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: same into it because she accepted she won Best New

1161
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: Artists to be amazed, and she wasn't there even though

1162
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: Lizzo was between her and Lizzo Lizzar should want but

1163
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: whatever Billy Billy wants, she wasn't there. But she she

1164
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: sends a video message, a vertical iPhone selfie video front

1165
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: She's in her fucking car. She's like, I can't be there.

1166
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm actually on tour in Russia anyway.

1167
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Um she goes Patt and I locked about that. She

1168
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: goes videos and visuals have always been a huge priority

1169
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: for me, so they wait. But also it's like Lizza

1170
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't the moment I found I discovered stopped up. The

1171
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: moment I discovered Lizza was. I stayed up on a

1172
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: Thursday to watch my episode of broad City because I

1173
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: was like the highlight of my life watch and then

1174
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: you guys played um let him say by Lizzo in

1175
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: the season three premiere, and I was like, in that

1176
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: way the who just let split screen montage? And I

1177
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: was like, who the funk is this? I love this

1178
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: fucking song. Look her up that night, listen to all

1179
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: her ship that night. I was like, I'm obsessed. That

1180
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: was because of Max, So I'm amazing. I like listened

1181
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: to like, I watched the videos that he would do,

1182
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: the features that he would do when he would like

1183
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: music supervisor brought to stuff, the beautiful, cool, the coolest,

1184
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: he's the horniest. I'm so this is problematic. He's so hot,

1185
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: so the problematic and that I'm like objecting whatever that

1186
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, just he's like he's a sexy motherfucker who

1187
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: has taste in music, Like sign me up love it anyway. Oh,

1188
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: and I was wondering what I'm really sorry. I wish

1189
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: I knew this, but I haven't was the city in years. No, no,

1190
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: I know the yet, But what was your exact line?

1191
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Where like their bathroom excuse me, their bathroom here? Um

1192
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: too up, Yes, we don't have bathroom here, and we

1193
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: don't have bathrooms here. This is the pop up and yeah,

1194
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: I blocked it out. Funny I was. That was like,

1195
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: oh god, that's the best day of my life. That was.

1196
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: That was so funny. And also it was just such

1197
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: a pleasure to receive your audition. Oh, come on. And

1198
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: then Lucia came up to me and she was like I,

1199
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: She's like, who are you? I was like, so the best,

1200
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: the best, literally, the hottest, coolest couple. We had them

1201
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: on the show and I was looking at them like

1202
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: they're so sexy and cool, They're so funny. It's so

1203
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: wild how funny they are. It's good to have people

1204
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: in your life that you're like close to and also

1205
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: you think are fucking rad. It's come on, and I

1206
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: just fed you your line, bitch of yours. Come on, Okay, Alana,

1207
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: let's ask let's ask the damn question, because literally, and

1208
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: we got a little preview of what it might be.

1209
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: But Alana, what is the culture that made you say culturalists?

1210
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: For me? Okay? Two parter um Um the Love Scheck video.

1211
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like such a little kid about me each

1212
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 1: one and was like that's where I'm going to go, Hello, Hello,

1213
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Wow that iconic cultures talk about someone who gave an

1214
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: iconic forever performance and like that will stand with Yeah, sister.

1215
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: I directed them. I lost my money and that was

1216
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: a moment where like I had to be like contained

1217
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I was like I did say to them.

1218
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: I was like, guys like Abby and I, it was like,

1219
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, just between taps. I was like, Abby and

1220
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: I are like standing on your shoulders. You have built

1221
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 1: like the you have paved the path like you've done

1222
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: the like blood sweat and tears of paving the path.

1223
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: Like the only reason I'm able to do this today

1224
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: is because of you, and like thank you. And it

1225
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: was like so it was so sweet and delicious. That

1226
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: is a moment of stepping out of it and and

1227
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: and giving them and being in that moment and like

1228
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: knowing what you are exactly what you're like saying in

1229
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: communicating to this person who means so much to you.

1230
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: And and like Susie two and like their energy, like

1231
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: that female energy like damn just like knocked us over.

1232
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: We all were. It was like so magical to for

1233
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: for them to be together. Every time Susie would come

1234
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: on set would be everyone's favorite day of the season,

1235
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: the most genius casting the web series. We were like

1236
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: that's going to be bad, Yeah, you two together, and

1237
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: she literally like is my It's like I came out

1238
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: of her comedy pussy right right, Like I was laughing

1239
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: the other day. She she'll never hear this, so it's

1240
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: like fine, I was laughing the other day. She she

1241
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, like our mother's And maybe it's not as

1242
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: true for mothers two sons, but I'm sure and it

1243
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: is because I don't know if Eli said this like

1244
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: mothers like appropriate appropriate there such a fucking dirt. Mothers

1245
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: like appropriate their their children's um experience as their own. Oh,

1246
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: and it's like we share consciousness and it's like, honestly, Mom,

1247
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we do. But then I'm like, you

1248
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: know what, I would think that if I were someone's mother,

1249
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I know exactly what you're feeling every

1250
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: moment that you feel it. I feel it in my

1251
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: body as you experience it, you know what I mean?

1252
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: So you know, like my my mom Sandy does that

1253
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: all the time. Elliott has this like perfect story of her. Gosh,

1254
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: I hope he's okay with me saying this. He will

1255
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: hear this is that she said to him, Hi, Elliott,

1256
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: that my mom said to him, our hair is thinning,

1257
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: our hair is was like, Mom, I'm gonna kill you whatever.

1258
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: And Susie does this to me really where like I've

1259
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: been wearing my I've been doing like a new do

1260
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: where I like slick my hair back with this like

1261
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: um spray leaving conditioner as well as hair spray and

1262
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: then do like a little fun and it's like kind

1263
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: of like Victor Victoria or something. I don't know whether

1264
01:08:54,320 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: it's And I saw Susie and she was like, I

1265
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: did my hair like that in the summers. It's easier

1266
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: in the summer. We do our hair like that, Like

1267
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: she like shares our experience in a way that we

1268
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: like our We're just it says, though she is my mother.

1269
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: It's crazy her tits and like her body, like it's

1270
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: just it's so weird. My mom doesn't have curly hair.

1271
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: My mom has small tits and like Susie's got Susie's

1272
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: curly hair and curly hair like it. It's interesting. It's

1273
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: that is so well. And also the thing about Susie

1274
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: is what I really appreciate about her as a performer

1275
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: is unbridled. It is you know what I mean, she

1276
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: is right here, you know what I mean. It is

1277
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: And maybe it's maybe it's maybe it is like an

1278
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: improv thing where it's like on curb your enthusiasm, like

1279
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: she's able to be so like alive because it's truly

1280
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: coming out of her. But what I've always been so

1281
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: impressed with with her is like there's just this kind

1282
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: of like very vivid, alive, emotional um sort of drive

1283
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: that comes from her, which I really appreciate because I'm

1284
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: sure she got told a lot like bring it down,

1285
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: bring it down, put it down. And when someone is

1286
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: just like really fucking alive on camera and on stage

1287
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: and etcetera, I I really appreciate. I found this insanely

1288
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: delicious archival footage of her doing like some at like

1289
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: the improv archive footage of the improv or something, but

1290
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: her doing stand up when she was like twenty eight,

1291
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: and she was like so cute and hot and cool

1292
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: and it's dope. Wow. I mean but her, but you

1293
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: two together is is like a magical thing that like

1294
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: is not just it's not just about YouTube being like

1295
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: talented or professional. It's it's just you two together is

1296
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: like a force where it's like, oh my god, Like

1297
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: I think it was it the first episode she was

1298
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: in where you guys go for shopping and you guys

1299
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: go after the van and then like oh yeah, and

1300
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: then Abby calls you telling you she's about to get

1301
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: she's about to peg, and then you like, oh my god,

1302
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: I come wall and twerk Alana, You're like, Mom, I'm

1303
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: on the phone. So that that for me watching that

1304
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: at home, I was like, this is perfect, perfect mother

1305
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: daughter casting, and like for what for? Like what for

1306
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 1: two fun characters? No one's like like, no one's endangering

1307
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: the other in this relationship on screen, Like it's oh

1308
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: my god, it's beautiful and that I do want to

1309
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: I want to ask about uh, just doing the finale

1310
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: in the last season and like where you guys are

1311
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: at now? So like obviously you and are incredibly close,

1312
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: like bff, that's that's the way. Um. When I was

1313
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: watching that finale, I was like it just felt so

1314
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: vivid and real, like the emotions and everything, like so

1315
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: now you're obviously not like seeing each other as much

1316
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: as much as much because you're not like in a

1317
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: direct working space, but like, what's it been like trying

1318
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: to like what is it like now? It feels sad? Yeah,

1319
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, it feels sad. He's about he's leaving, he's

1320
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: going to l A and so it's like what are

1321
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: we gonna do? I was watching and I was just like,

1322
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: oh man, that is such a moment of like the change.

1323
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: Are you going just for work and from like my

1324
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,480
Speaker 1: life and stuff. But like I was, I was identifying

1325
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: with the show because it was like, wow, this like happens. Yeah,

1326
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: and and Abby has a place in l A two

1327
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: and lives there too, and it's it's sad. There's like

1328
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: an emptiness. Um. You know, we like chose for the

1329
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: show to end. Um. And it is really right, like

1330
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: what you're describing the rightness of stuff, um, and how

1331
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: you have to do stuff even though it's hard and

1332
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: that's like the joke of life because it doesn't even

1333
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: like feel good. You're like what but it's like that's

1334
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: not even what it's about or whatever. Um, but it's correct,

1335
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: but it's correct and um, it's sad and hard and

1336
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: like we are. Abby really feels like I was saying

1337
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: this last night actually um. I was with her at

1338
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: Lucarfest and she was UM, I was saying, like Abby's

1339
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: my sister, and I like our genes have. I mean,

1340
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: it's not that far off because we're both Ashkenazi Jews,

1341
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: but I feel like our genes have like so that

1342
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: where like she feels like my sister and so it

1343
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you know, she's like we're not less

1344
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: available to each other, but like we are moving on

1345
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: in our lives, you know, and we're producing stuff together,

1346
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 1: um stuff I'm excited about. And we created one show together,

1347
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: like we're sucking bosses and like taught each other how

1348
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: to run huge businesses. You know, Like I think about,

1349
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: like how much money is like put forth for someone

1350
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: rather than I wish I had all that money. But

1351
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: it's like how much money have we gotten to our name?

1352
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: It's like we've you know, the series of broad City,

1353
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: that the budget that we earned by the like selling

1354
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: that content and that art. It's like we ran like

1355
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: a huge business. I mean, Paul Lucia said this when

1356
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: they were on. They were like, we just had to

1357
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: teach ourselves. No one was really like handing over the

1358
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: keys or anything or telling us what to do. Like

1359
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: you guys, we're like the most like self starting sort

1360
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: of unit. It feel. It felt like and like at

1361
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: least in like our little world where it was just like, oh, well,

1362
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: look at what they're doing, like let's like let's let

1363
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: this be a model like and and we told them

1364
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: like all these new like these great new shows, like

1365
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: we were saying like like the Pent of Teens and

1366
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: like the other like two hand or like comedies of

1367
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: sitcoms of the world that are popping up now that

1368
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: are so good. It's like I think, like and there's

1369
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 1: a huge it's a huge it's just like you know,

1370
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: it's it's it couldn't have really happened. I'm not saying that,

1371
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: like you know, they wouldn't exist, but I'm saying like that,

1372
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: but everything matters when when it's net what hasn't been

1373
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: done before all those little steps, it was shown to

1374
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: be viable through broad cities, so so viable that it

1375
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: was just like, well, great, like that's this works. We

1376
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: know this works now. Like if there were a chapter

1377
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: of a textbook that is like shows like this, like

1378
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: your show would be like a huge part of that.

1379
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: And that's something to be so proud of. And what

1380
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm really really what I really love about it is

1381
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: how it kept its integrity the time, and it kept

1382
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: the soul of who you guys were and who what

1383
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: the even the web series was and what the show

1384
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: was kept You kept that the whole time. And that's

1385
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: the hard especially when you become the new fucking cool

1386
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: show and like people are talking about it and you know,

1387
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to keep seeing it the way you

1388
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: see it, I'd be so smart. She is just so

1389
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: smart and the way she and she's such she really

1390
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: like taught me how to be an artist. She went

1391
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: to art school. And I was like, what is that?

1392
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm such a like you know, and I'm just

1393
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:45,480
Speaker 1: such a I don't know, like sort of more low mindset,

1394
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm I'm I have

1395
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: that accessible quality because I'm like fucking dumb too, you

1396
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: know what i mean, because you are all the time.

1397
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: Is so elevated it and like, um, you know, like

1398
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: she's just so smart and elevated and um, she's really

1399
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: good at that integrity thing and shaping that because I'm

1400
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: so open and uh and like giving, you know, and

1401
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: she's um has like stronger boundaries you know. I don't know,

1402
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: it's it's just so smart and know what you're saying.

1403
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: And Paul Luccio, what's funny is that like as you know,

1404
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: you're creative partner like becomes your husband wife. I was

1405
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: the husband and I'm the husband with Abbie and she's

1406
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: the wife and and I'm like, oh Jesus, I gotta

1407
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: like please my wife. Oh god, you know what I

1408
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: mean it's like that's my like like that's my like

1409
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: butch little like fucking mask. Like I'm like, I'm like,

1410
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: and I oh, I can I do somethingfo you know

1411
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: what I mean? Whatever? And Um and Paul Luccio were

1412
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I can't gender it, but they

1413
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: were the partner. They were the unit partner to our

1414
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: unit partner, you know. And like the fact that they're

1415
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: romantically together also was helpful. It's just helpful because it's like,

1416
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: at least we're not fucking slash. I wish we could

1417
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: just fuck to release attention, you know what I mean.

1418
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: So there was just like a helpful It was so

1419
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: magical and it's an experience with one other person that

1420
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: you can that no one understands. But do you guys

1421
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: some trip on shrooms and we tripped on I've done

1422
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: it three times. I enjoy it. I am I've done

1423
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: like some trips on shrooms. Um probably like Tanner under

1424
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: but um, I like really am overdue for when the

1425
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: last one it was in l A and it was

1426
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: like not cool, not no, it ain't And my my

1427
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: another one of my best friends, the one at the

1428
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: end of n y U where I was like, oh

1429
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: my gosh, you can sell my friends in college. My

1430
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: best friend Anti lives in San Francisco. He met me

1431
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: in l A. We take shrooms on a lift up

1432
01:17:54,520 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: to like as a lift. As we're getting to the hike,

1433
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: we're losing service and we're like, how are we going

1434
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: to get back? And it was just obviously it was.

1435
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: It was a horrible trip. And I see m entertainment

1436
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: lawyer and ride home where l A. And it's like,

1437
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: I can't be tripping in l A. And I can't

1438
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: be tripping there or if I am, I know who

1439
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: has to do it, who has to guide me? I

1440
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: have like a and I should. So we're and I

1441
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: see him entertainment lawyer head to give us a ride

1442
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: home and I had to tell him we're tripping. He

1443
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: was like, row shitty, I've heard you know what I

1444
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: mean like, and I've heard of it, and it's like, bitch,

1445
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: you should fucking you should know every fucking episode. And

1446
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: also I take on too much responsibility in general and

1447
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: take on too many other people's experiences. I'm empathetic to

1448
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: a fault and I'm like going through the thing and

1449
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm like recognizing and uh so I took the front

1450
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: seat and he took the back seat and it was

1451
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: not cool. He and like I was forced into a

1452
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: hug that I didn't want to give. And I had

1453
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 1: a terrible trip and that was January. So I'm like

1454
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: overdue for like a really good but really strong, mind

1455
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: losing trip to break open and then like come back together.

1456
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: Because also all the pieces are scattered, scattered for me,

1457
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: I need I need my I need for my brain

1458
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: to be an egg again, like to be broken open. Yeah,

1459
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: because I because I did shrooms last week at a party.

1460
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, but it just felt like mom, it

1461
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I'm just time. I wasn't thinking

1462
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: about anything. Now I need to do it rich realistically.

1463
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: I've had so much loss this year and like I

1464
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: don't um well, kind of like the same thing with

1465
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: a handbook you were talking about that home that you

1466
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: were talking about throughout city. I'm like finding that about

1467
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that about adulthood right now, like this new

1468
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: adulthood that the world is different, nobody can tell us,

1469
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 1: nobody knows how is to be, Uh, don't you know

1470
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: what I mean? And like so I thought about that

1471
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm like, what am I what's the model here? Like,

1472
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: what's the mental what's the plan? And we're like writing

1473
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: it for the future and then a rewrite it when

1474
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: it happens. But I honestly think that psychedelic journeys are

1475
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: a part of it. I think so too, because my

1476
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: trip came last year at the my first as a

1477
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: trip came at the exact right time. I truly I

1478
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: had a breakthrough. I called you the next day and

1479
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, all the ship that we've been

1480
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: going through the last tower many months gone done. It

1481
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: was a switch. It was a switch that flipped in

1482
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: my brain. And then I did it again in October

1483
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: and it was fine. But I it's been like a

1484
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: year now. I'm like, I've the pieces feel scattered for me.

1485
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: Honestly right now, I'm just like what am I? Have

1486
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: you been taking stock or they just are you? Just

1487
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: like fuck scattered? It's been scattered. The last four days

1488
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: have been me taking stock and it's felt so much

1489
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: better already, but I'm still like, there's still I will

1490
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: like this will slip through my fingers again, especially like

1491
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: when fucking work starts and stuff. I'm just like I

1492
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: need to come back. I need to be recentered. I'm

1493
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: about to experience a huge monumental loss. And I know

1494
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: that's like that's like a lot to like put on

1495
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: this on you right now, but I'm just like, well whatever,

1496
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: and it's just I need to I need to be

1497
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: set right in some way, not and not to put

1498
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: this narrative, not to put this thing on drug used

1499
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: to be like it'll fix me now, And it's not

1500
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: drug us. This is actual like human experience, experience, like

1501
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: pre patriarchy. Yeah great. I think that we just as

1502
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: like and this is the thing. It's like as a

1503
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: culture we need to just like and I think that

1504
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: this is happening with our generation and the generations that

1505
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: are incoming. It's like we just need to shift our

1506
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: focus away from these being these like dangerous or like

1507
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: to me, they've been so helpful. Like I the first

1508
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: time I took acid, it was like, um, such, it

1509
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: was the most emotional day of my life and it

1510
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: was just like really, and you know what, since then,

1511
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: it has reconnected me with my emotions in a way

1512
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: where I'm just like so much happier now that I

1513
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: can say I'm an emotional person. I have access to

1514
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: my emotions in a way that like I didn't realize

1515
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: how trained I was to ignore them and to be

1516
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: kind of like a machine and stuff. And now I

1517
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: can really say, like, my emotions are a strength of mine.

1518
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: And it really just made me realize so much about myself.

1519
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: I I reconnected with the fact that I'm a very

1520
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: physical person. You know, hello, athletic scholarship. I mean, but

1521
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: what is even negotiating an athletic But that was but

1522
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: even but not to be real though, that was like

1523
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 1: a part of me. I remember, like we were Upstate

1524
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: when we did it, and I remember I just ran

1525
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, it feels good to run

1526
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: intil the air in my lungs. This was something that

1527
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: I forgot and so it was incredibly helpful for me,

1528
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't and you know, I also think it's

1529
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: about It's a lot about atmosphere, and it's a lot

1530
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: about where you are in your life. Because it's like

1531
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: I will, that's only going to be something that I

1532
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: do if I feel like I'm in the right zone

1533
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like I need it for something that

1534
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: I can't figure out on my own. Because it has

1535
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: truly unlocked things for me that I was like that's

1536
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: what it was, and it was right here the whole time,

1537
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: but I just needed to clear my head a little bit.

1538
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: And so that's like, Um, that's been where I'm at

1539
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: with it. What does we do for you now there?

1540
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: Is it just a part of your life or does

1541
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: it still kind of does it chill you out? Like? Um?

1542
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: I always like, um, I always say something I always

1543
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: say is something I always say cracking myself up, repeating you,

1544
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: but I it always cracks me up. How I smoke

1545
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: weed and I'm like, oh, fuck am I, And then

1546
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I've heard you say this before. And

1547
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: then I'm like oh yeo yo yo yo yo, and

1548
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: then there's that period of fear and then you're fine. Yeah,

1549
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: It's like it's I think it's like still remains this

1550
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: like funny little friend, this like silly little bitch who

1551
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: like makes me nervous, makes confront ship and then she

1552
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: chills with me as we giggle about like mental illness.

1553
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: So did you start into it because culturally, like people

1554
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: around you were really into had a really kind first

1555
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend in high school who, um was the person that

1556
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: I learned about my thought symbols, penis and blunts and

1557
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: it was like the first time I was doing anything.

1558
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: I was a very like, very nervous kid and didn't

1559
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: and it was like a late bloomer in like that

1560
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: in that way sexually and um confused. And then also

1561
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: we I mean we smoked like Zach Britman. He was

1562
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 1: a great fucking boyfriend, such such a good boy, and

1563
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: he smoked so much. It was like dangerous for sure, um,

1564
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: dangerous for others as we drove, plazed out of our

1565
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: minds and children, I mean children driving as though you

1566
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: know I in your brain stops growing and changing. But

1567
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: before then, I'm like, you're actually like mushroom tripping all

1568
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the time. It's it's so like so so I can't.

1569
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: I wish I could get fire, And that's why I

1570
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: need to be doing psychedelics more regularly. But weed is

1571
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 1: my like my marriage really that huge. So it's like

1572
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: I love her. It's been so interesting watching my parents

1573
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of accept the fact that I smoke weed. Like

1574
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: my my parents listened to the podcast sometimes and we

1575
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: did talk about taking LSD of My mom called me

1576
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: and she was like, I don't think you need to

1577
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 1: be doing that ship and I was like, this is

1578
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: the difference of opinion. Actually, like it's it's I'm able

1579
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: to be an adult and make my own decisions about this.

1580
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone needs to do it, Do whatever

1581
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: the funk you want. I just don't think we need

1582
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: to villainize it. But it's been so interesting watching them

1583
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: accept the fact that it is something marijuana that helps

1584
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: me and that I'm functional with and in fact more

1585
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: creative and productive sometimes when I do it, and I

1586
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: just think, it's like, it's that generational thing, right, It's

1587
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: that like sort of suburban long island thing where it's

1588
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: like or whatever wherever you're from, where it's just been

1589
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: fed to the generation above us that this is something

1590
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: to fear. And it's also so baby more culture and

1591
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: so get ready dominator culture versus partners. Dominated culture encompasses

1592
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: rape culture, slave culture, you know, systematic whatever it is,

1593
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: so dominator culture also to be like I feel this way,

1594
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: thus I dictate your experience. I don't like, I don't

1595
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: want to get an abortion, so you can't have one.

1596
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to do LSD, so you shouldn't. It's like,

1597
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's scary if it's your kid,

1598
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: but it's like, ask questions, don't talk at me, ask

1599
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: me what it's like, and it's just exactly and it's

1600
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: just it's kind of like a it's just a misunderstanding.

1601
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: It's a generational sort of just gap where it's like

1602
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: and it's interesting to be in the place where it's

1603
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: like people we're tripping their balls government, Like doctors were

1604
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 1: tripping their balls off from government acid starting in the sixties.

1605
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: Like it's not I'm like, you guys should have been

1606
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: the pioneers. It's a little bit of like my mother

1607
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 1: was like a bartender in New York City in the eighties,

1608
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: so it's like she probably is seen she probably has

1609
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: like seen ship that she's like, like, sometimes I'll be

1610
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: doing or like and mix in a situation experience where

1611
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I ever have children and I find

1612
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: out they're doing this, I'm gonna flip out. I'm gonna

1613
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: kill them, Yeah, because this is so irresponsible for me

1614
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: to be doing. And so like I'm going to kid

1615
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 1: my kids some like um whatever, some issue to work

1616
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: out sexually in their teens. Truly, I need to. I

1617
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: always wonder that I'm like, how am I going to

1618
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: suck my child? Though? Oh, my god, what mistake. And

1619
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: if I even have a kid now insane to think

1620
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: of that. I think there probably is the right way

1621
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: to just punitively like bear down on your children enough

1622
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: for them to still be well adjusted. Like I like

1623
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: sort of pointing into a kid's chest and poking a

1624
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: sharply and deep like almost bruises and then just like

1625
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: I used to babysit a lot, and I'm like, really

1626
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: like a string babysitter until they bruise. Okay, so this

1627
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: is insane, but we do have to do. I don't

1628
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: think so, honey. I could fucking sit here for really

1629
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: hours and time. You love to come back. I would

1630
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: love to come back, and I'd love to be a

1631
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: reunion episode. You have things like you say things like

1632
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: reunion and say things like like this is gonna be

1633
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: a monumental change. It's not. I'm gonna be back all

1634
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: the time. I'm like literally keeping my apartment here. People

1635
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: have been messaging me being like, what's going to happen

1636
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: to the pod, you guys, nothing, It's gonna stay the same, nothing. Okay,

1637
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: just so that I would say that, but let's do

1638
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This is our one minute

1639
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: to rail against something in pop culture that. Let me

1640
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: tell you, something needs to be railed against. We need

1641
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: to dress it down to something we hate in pop

1642
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: culture or life. And I do have something that's been

1643
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: really bothering me. Okay, all right, this is Matt Rodgers.

1644
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I

1645
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, it's like confirmed that aliens are real. No,

1646
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 1: I will not have this. It's like, there's enough horrors

1647
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: in the world. You don't need to confirm my literal

1648
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: number one childhood fear with this area one garbage. I

1649
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Every article I see that are like,

1650
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: guess what, Yes, UFOs are in this guy, Yes, we

1651
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: can confirm it. Also, I don't think so honey that

1652
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: if this is true, I guess we're like breezing over it.

1653
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: Talk about other things. This feels like an existential threat.

1654
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I'll climate change, let's discuss it. So. I don't think, Sonny,

1655
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: aliens in the sky get truly away from me. If

1656
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: you're advanced enough to like bet in the sky around us,

1657
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: that means you probably have a fine planet to go

1658
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,959
Speaker 1: there or find something else. If you are more advanced,

1659
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: like this is not the zone. Also, I don't think so, honey,

1660
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: that you want to be here. You do not want

1661
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: to come to Earth right now, truly, Like there's probably

1662
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: so many other things that you can be doing than

1663
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: coming to Earth because Earth, I don't think so honey.

1664
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Right now you are truly on fire. You have bad

1665
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: leaders worldwide. Get somewhere else, Aliens, I don't think so, honey.

1666
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: And also you probably look just as gross as you

1667
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: do in media popular media. And that's one minute. Yeah, aliens, Um,

1668
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of something right now, get away,

1669
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: come back? But what about help? I just do you

1670
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 1: think that aliens have benevolently come here? Honestly, I'm like,

1671
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: what if they're like boum and they just send a

1672
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: ring of energy that heals. Okay, so you be coming

1673
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: down like fucking us, you know what I mean? Like whatever,

1674
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I guess, like that's the thing. And like, honestly, I'm like,

1675
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: if we needed to be fucked in all three holes

1676
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: or whatever to learn, I'm just like, if they if

1677
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: they could help. But obviously I don't want them to

1678
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: come here and ruin everything. But we're not the theorists.

1679
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the theorists say that there's like there's

1680
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: like category one, two, three, four. I think that they're

1681
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: called categories. But like for an alien to be advanced,

1682
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: for an alien civilization to be advanced enough to come

1683
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: to Earth, that would mean that they are advanced enough

1684
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: to like harness like the energy of stars, and they

1685
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 1: would probably want to, like you, probably want to destroy

1686
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: us so they could harness the energy of our son

1687
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: to power there the right. So you're saying they would

1688
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: only come here to to to kill us, There's a

1689
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: very slim, slim chance that they would come here to

1690
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what's up? Well, because think about human nature,

1691
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: like we have historically only gone places to take them over.

1692
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's like, I'm sorry, like white male

1693
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Viking nature, right? Is that every nature? Is that? That's

1694
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: an interesting point because I'm like, I try to distinguish

1695
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: humanity from the patriarchy. Thank you, thank you, but we're not,

1696
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: so we discussing something very other. And so I think

1697
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: the roots that may not apply. We could be dealing

1698
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: with an arrival situation where they come and the way

1699
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: they think and talk is like nonlinear, and then we

1700
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: have to figure that shit out. Get Amy Adams on

1701
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: the line, which because I can't be me. What are

1702
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: the aliens? And Arrival one again? They just wanted to

1703
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: like they wanted a gene or they wanted to they

1704
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: wanted something, they want they needed something, and then they

1705
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: had to leave. Yeah, it was I forget exactly what happened.

1706
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 1: All I know is I was weeping at the end

1707
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: of Arrival. I rested. I think I don't know if

1708
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I was stone I think I went stone cold, sober,

1709
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: and like just I was high on like Amy's performance. Wow,

1710
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: it's actually real coaching be fourteen. I was high on

1711
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a performance. That's my thing. I don't like aliens. I

1712
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: don't like it. It's not going to be a thing

1713
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I get over either, like my fear of flying. It's

1714
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 1: it's I don't like them because you can't predict them.

1715
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: You can't. That's true. It's not humanity. It's not humanity.

1716
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate that. That's a rule. Coach number aliens,

1717
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: it's not humanity, thank you. This is gonna be bowen yanks.

1718
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we need his face idea so that

1719
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: I can unlock what is his phone? Okay, okay, So

1720
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: this is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, and

1721
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: he will start right now. Um, I don't think so, honey.

1722
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: Um jewelry. I looked at my rings and said, jewelry. No,

1723
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing, jewelry. It cost too much and I

1724
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: lose you all the damn time. And um, speaking of jewelry,

1725
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: my jewel, I lose my jewel all the damn time.

1726
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: You guys this, I'm really just just just grasping at

1727
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: straws right now. But I think my jewel Actually, no,

1728
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: this is the bad thing about jewel my I. I

1729
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: had a friend, her name is Nora. A Lamina says,

1730
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: but when you should, you should, because um, you're gonna

1731
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: wake up and you're gonna get dry mouth, and um,

1732
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: if you're if you're quitting cigarettes, then the jewel is

1733
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: going to actually like coat your esophagus or your air,

1734
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: your trade with worship. And then she said that, and

1735
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 1: then she took a pull from her what jewel she's

1736
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: jeweling but she can't break out of the bicycle. Nora,

1737
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry and putting you on blast, but you know

1738
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you're you're you're getting me worried, but you can't tell

1739
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: don't burate me, I gotta burate you back. Okay. So

1740
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: that became and I don't think so honey about Nora

1741
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: lam Aquaphena, which I hope you're okay with colleague's she

1742
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: she and I are going through the same struggle. I'm

1743
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: gonna I'm trying to break out of, break from the

1744
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: chain of jewel and just let her know when I'm

1745
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: on the other side. Hey, it's possible. Come with, come with,

1746
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: come with Okay. I'm gonna add to that that my husband, David,

1747
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: my man partner, David. Um, I also want him to

1748
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,839
Speaker 1: stop sucking jeweling, but we are a partnership culture couple,

1749
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell him what to do

1750
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: with his body. Don't you're not a dominated culture couple.

1751
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 1: And his partner how Tian that he does science. Um David,

1752
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 1: they went to China to like whatever talk um freaking

1753
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 1: like people with Chinese people with money for science stuff,

1754
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: and um David couldn't bring weed and he was very

1755
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: nervous and he picked up the freaking jewel and he's

1756
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: like telling me that he needs it at this time,

1757
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: and it's I'm like, dude, I'm gonna smack about to

1758
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: go and he's nervous about that's what happened. And I'm like,

1759
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: how Tian and David stop jeweling if the kids like

1760
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: die they're having mysterious long illnesses. I'm literally go back

1761
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: to cigarettes. It looks cooler. Yeah, you're right, it does

1762
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: look cooler. And then you get like a cold and

1763
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: you get sick, and you're like, oh god, I shouldn't

1764
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's now I'm actually nervous

1765
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: weed vapes. I'm kind of just going back to Flower.

1766
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, the ship, Like I love to smoke

1767
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: like Flower. I like to smoke a bowl. I am

1768
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm doting now he smokes joints all

1769
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the time. And the vapes, I'll say this, I like

1770
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 1: that I can have it on the go and it's

1771
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 1: like more and considra but and they're faster acting. I

1772
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 1: feel high immediately, well for me, but I it's weirder

1773
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: on my throat. It's I feel my lungs having a

1774
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: more difficult time. And also like this is a little

1775
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: bit weird. But like when I smoke a vape, like

1776
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: difficult for me to get horny on that. It's weird.

1777
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it's been something I've I've observed.

1778
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: It's so cool to me that that is clear enough

1779
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: for you. I love that. I love it. It is clear.

1780
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 1: It is clear for me in this moment. It might

1781
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: not be true ultimately, narratives are so clear. Really, yeah,

1782
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: that's really interesting here in my body. Okay, it's time. Okay,

1783
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I have like a really dark one, talk about bleak

1784
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: but true my comedy. This is a lot of lazers.

1785
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, hony. Your time starts now. Okay,

1786
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Jeffrey Epstein, you think you

1787
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: can die out of all these accusations which you raped

1788
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: kids and you you had the low leader jet, I'm like,

1789
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: where has billions come from? I can't even read that, chick,

1790
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I already freaking no. And you're the

1791
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 1: way you made money was by sex trafficking children to

1792
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: the richest men in the world. You can't die out

1793
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 1: of this because you know what, we have a sexual predator,

1794
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 1: a proud sexual predator in office. And that's why the

1795
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 1: Rise of Me Too, That's why they takedown on Harvey West.

1796
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: That's why this ship is like popping off. You know now, um,

1797
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: I like always say L O L that, like we're

1798
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: popping a pimple right now, because I can't think that

1799
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: this is the end. I actually think it's the beginning

1800
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: and I need optimism or else like get mobidly depressed.

1801
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like, actually, Jeffrey Epstein's death, his body doesn't matter.

1802
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: The energy that he like put on this planet will

1803
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: not be forgotten. We're going to learn from it. You

1804
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: can't die out of this ship. And like your brother's like,

1805
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: he's not gonna keep his money. Trump's gonna be told,

1806
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: Clinton's gonna be told everybody like like wrote the jet

1807
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence. It's on something you didn't realize.

1808
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: You knew it was creepy. You can't die out of

1809
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: this That's yes, man, j Honestly, thank you. Eat. My

1810
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: ass got to end because guess what if if if

1811
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: if he's going to be like a Sea Chaine for everyone,

1812
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: like he is pictured on that fucking plane with underage girls.

1813
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Prince Andrew. I'm like, she's like, come out

1814
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: about it, dude. I'm like, actually, just you say it.

1815
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't care about jifree or whatever. And I actually

1816
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: don't care about Prince Andrew's like, whatever he has to say,

1817
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: you just tell me everything, because like, just just say

1818
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: everything Trump is. It's unbelievable how much footage we have.

1819
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: There is no doubt. Can I say that he sucked

1820
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: all those kids? You know what I mean? Like they

1821
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: fucked kids. And I'm like a sixteen year olds a kid.

1822
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a child. And you know what, this is

1823
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: what I love too. The the new American crime story

1824
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: that's going to be about the Lewinski scandal. Um, you

1825
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: know what I think is fucking genius is casting because

1826
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: now people will understand that was young. She was young,

1827
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: and she was preyed upon, and people were like, Beanie

1828
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: is Monica out? She's so young. It's because she, Monica

1829
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 1: was young and taking advantage of and this entire country

1830
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 1: and the world laughed, and they made it about her

1831
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: and Hillary and the fact that he you know, he

1832
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: never answered for that really, and the fact that there's

1833
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: even more women. Yeah, goddamn right, We're gonna watch Beanie

1834
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: portray Monica Lewinsky because she was young, too young, and

1835
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: I and like, I'm just like Lolita jet like that's

1836
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: what they called it. The I'm just like stop hunting me,

1837
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 1: go fuck yourself. And you know what, like David was saying,

1838
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I was like, we were like talking about it, and

1839
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, it's less trash on

1840
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: the earth, and like we don't need to suck a

1841
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: body to like uncover what this means systematically, So don't

1842
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: think that you can get out of it. And also

1843
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: people are like he was murder allegedly su said, I'm like, I,

1844
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was, I believe that he would happily kill

1845
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: himself up to protect the patriarchy that was his number one.

1846
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: That was like purely like him, like not wanting to

1847
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: answer for anything and not and like wanting to take

1848
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: this knowledge that he has appear with him. I yes,

1849
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, yes, And I think he was

1850
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 1: he would happily like slit his throat to suck the

1851
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: dick of patriarchy like he thinks he's like a like

1852
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: noble warrior's kind of what I think where he's where

1853
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: he's like we it was our he thought. I think

1854
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: he thinks it was his right to do that, and

1855
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: that he's like I will, I will protect these men,

1856
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, you won't, because those women have

1857
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: grown up and we're about to get your ass. That

1858
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: is so bleak, you know what it's it's confronted the

1859
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: reality of the world and saying actually no, and that

1860
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: that is like I'm like, I don't know what comedy

1861
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: is anymore, everything upside down. So comedy is like dark

1862
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: and like sad and ships. And it's like when people

1863
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: pretend like it's good for comedy or or just like

1864
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 1: whenever comedians speak out and really it's like, aren't you

1865
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 1: be a comedian? It's like, no, actually, I'm someone. I'm

1866
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: a person who uses my voice. And if you're laughing,

1867
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: that's cool and that and maybe if you if you're

1868
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: laughing enough to listen now like good. And I'm also

1869
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: like then those people are not on the edge of

1870
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 1: culture because comedy is like becoming something else right exactly.

1871
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: And it's like, are you Jeff Fox? Really? Fine? If

1872
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: you're Jef Fox? Really, I'm a comedian. So that's why

1873
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm using my human voice because that's what it is now.

1874
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: It's like cohesion. I am thrilled about this episode of Glory.

1875
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: You could come back whatever yea myself right now because

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