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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: sharing for the right teams.

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Speaker 3: Drama Queens L's Girl of Girl Fashion, but your tough girl.

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Speaker 4: You could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahna Queens

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to part two of Thanksgiving. We're giving gratitude

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Speaker 3: because Sharon has agreed to answer all of our questions

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Speaker 3: and yours and stay with us for an extra long

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Speaker 3: time because we're greedy and we love her.

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Speaker 5: We got to talk about Millie and Lisa Goldstein. I

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Speaker 5: had a realization this might have happened in the episode

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Speaker 5: actually with Antoine and Lee, because remember I was stumping

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Speaker 5: pretty hard for Mouth and Miss Lauren. Yeah, yeah, what

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Speaker 5: I had. What I've come to realize is that what

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Speaker 5: I was really rooting for was just more Miss Lauren.

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Speaker 5: What I didn't realize is the only way we got

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Speaker 5: this relationship when really all I was rooting for was

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Speaker 5: more Alison Mount Because as soon as Lisa showed up

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Speaker 5: and Mouth and Milly are doing their thing. I was

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Speaker 5: I realized was, I don't really care. I just want

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Lisa was great in this episode.

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Speaker 5: Her little gobble gobble that she does when when Skills

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Speaker 5: walks out and goes, you're not a turkey, and she

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Speaker 5: the two of them are just so cute and easy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their chemistry is so natural, and they they have

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Speaker 6: It's like it's.

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Speaker 3: A groundedness that to your point, I knew I missed,

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Speaker 3: I knew I hated when they had conflict, and when

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Speaker 2: Go, oh, that's what I wanted, Let me have more.

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Speaker 3: And it feels so nice to root for something like that.

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Speaker 2: That whole the three of them in the apartment with

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Speaker 6: That is so funded.

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Speaker 5: I didn't remember how the episode panned out. So when

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how it happened.

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Speaker 4: Just seeing that turkey, that turkey's head.

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Speaker 2: Just oh gosh, it was so good. I did not

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Speaker 2: Tim McKinney probably was the one who figured out how

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Speaker 2: it's interesting in episodes where there's so many cast members

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Speaker 3: Her have that capability to say when Alex is like,

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Speaker 6: Are we okay? And I'm like, yeah, we're fine. I

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Speaker 3: She gives the device for Brooke to essentially jinx herself,

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Speaker 2: With Victoria without Milly is just another key device.

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Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: She gives us the ability to do the things and

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Speaker 6: It's like she.

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Speaker 3: Saw the shape of the roller coaster and was in

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Speaker 5: And arguably the best button on any of the scenes. Well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well blink and you missed it. But it

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Speaker 3: Well, and that we got to have those buttons again.

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Speaker 3: Loving props. The props are the communication, because you think

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Speaker 3: it's such a nice thing when you're working with people

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Speaker 6: It's it's improfits.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, absolutely, I love it.

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Speaker 4: How the girls feel about the fight.

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Speaker 4: But times have changed.

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Speaker 3: You know what actually helped me with that because of

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Speaker 6: What saved us.

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Speaker 3: And again, kudos to Austin being perfect in the episode,

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Speaker 3: much like Lisa is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he could have delivered that like more interested,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And in a way, him opening it up like

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Speaker 5: And speaking of Austin, the whole bit about him being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nathan looking to you and being like, hey, Julian's

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Speaker 5: when Alex sees me, excuse me, sees Milly and I'm like, hey, bitch,

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Speaker 5: I just saw it was I don't mean like, you

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Speaker 5: you know what, Rob.

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Speaker 3: I would like to hand you one of those little

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Speaker 6: You are an excellent man.

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Speaker 2: I agree that. Thank you for noticing that.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but it's just it was right though. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure you all heard that and we're like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Think it was a different time. I just feel the

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Speaker 4: world has changed, and you all helped make it change.

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Speaker 4: You did help make our kids. Sharing we tell stories

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Speaker 4: and the way we think about not what we represent,

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Speaker 3: Well, just to just to build out a little more

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Speaker 4: They they they they examined me on the witness stand.

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Speaker 5: To that end, Can I ask a wildly off topic question,

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is interesting. Just last night I was with

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Speaker 3: Make it a violation for your boss to keep photos

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00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: of you in your underwear in their office.

438
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 6: Because they could do that taking.

439
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: Still images of an actress on a television show if

440
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: she happened to be an underwear for a scene, and

441
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: you would just think, well, who would do that? And

442
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: plenty of people would do that, And so you know

443
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: this idea that you have to say, No, you're not

444
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: allowed to take a screenshot of someone in a shower.

445
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Speaker 6: No you are not allowed.

446
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: To take and keep images from women's fittings.

447
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 6: No you are not allowed to.

448
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: Invite your friends to set on the day someone has

449
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: to shoot a love scene. Like it seems is basic,

450
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: but we had to fight these crazy upheld battles, you know,

451
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: to do those things.

452
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: I was, frankly there were crew members that made this

453
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: me it in particular, but I wasn't alone. Their comments

454
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 4: got back to us. Sometimes we overheard them, but their

455
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: comments got back and we actually spoke to the Botchko

456
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: company about it and their concern with lawsuits and their

457
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: understanding that they needed to recognize how unprofessional it was.

458
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: That's what motivated these writers these harassment, and I believe

459
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: it was the women in that production company, Yeah, that

460
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: were not going to look the other way.

461
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's another reason why you're a trailblazer, Sharon. You've

462
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: walked through so such a buried so many varied experiences

463
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: in your career, and I've in all the times I've

464
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: been on set with you, I've always been amazed at

465
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: how you're able to set boundaries for yourself while also

466
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: being totally free on camera and so and so comfortable

467
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: in your ability to improvise and have ideas. And I

468
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: never see you ever make anyone feel uncomfortable or feel

469
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: like you're being bossy or I feel like it's it's uh,

470
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, you have this incredible I just watch you

471
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: with wonder, like I want to learn how to do that.

472
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it's something that you've I'm assuming it's

473
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: something you learned over time in your career, but being

474
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: young and coming up in that environment and then having

475
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: to learn how to transition through it. Do you have

476
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: any like what are your what are the tricks?

477
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Like?

478
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: What what do you have to say for young actors

479
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: or for even for us like as we're as we

480
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: continue to learn and grow in this industry as well,

481
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: how do you manage all that well?

482
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate your appreciation of the a manner or quality

483
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: or a tone, and I want to acknowledge that my

484
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: theater training, I think is what has grounded me in

485
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: a confidence and a freedom, but also a cultural understanding

486
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: that we are all that this is team work. Film

487
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: and television sets are different because we are a bit

488
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 4: more what's the word I'm looking for? We are we

489
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 4: are a little more sequestered. You know, we're not always

490
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: watching everybody throughout the whole day. When you're working on

491
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 4: a play or working on a Broadway musical, you're in

492
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: the same room and when in how so they talk

493
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: about the room where it happens on stage, that is

494
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: a given. So you feel everybody all the time.

495
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're holding all that energy and.

496
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: You learn from what's gracious and what is not. On

497
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: a film set, we are often sent away to our

498
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: trailers and we don't get a chance to observe how

499
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: everybody affects everybody else. And I think as people that

500
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: are beginning in this business, to make sure that they

501
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: invest their time in some stage production somewhere so they

502
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: learn what it means to create together, to be part

503
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: of that process and then to deliver for the run

504
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: of the play. And I think it will set you

505
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: up for an understanding of shared shared challenges, shared rewards,

506
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: breathing the same air all the time, listening in a different.

507
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Way, and creativity and for.

508
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: Something, and that everybody that you're in front of is

509
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: an audience, whether they're a crew member or somebody that's

510
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: paid to sit in the house. We are. We're a

511
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: big ecosystem and you can be asset or a liability.

512
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say Sharon did make me cry a

513
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 5: few times during the movies we made together. But in

514
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: her defense, in her defense, it was not only deserved

515
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: but necessary good.

516
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: It was written in the script and maybe it was

517
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: us just sitting around listening to treat enjoy his fart

518
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: app on his phone. So will you know so much?

519
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: And thank you bother u seeing those movies for making

520
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: sure that we all got to be together with a

521
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: special person in our industry who made us cry with

522
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: left and just.

523
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: To get to, like I said, to experience you because

524
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 5: we cross paths for all of four hours on the

525
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: set of this episode, and I immediately liked you. But

526
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: it wasn't until we got to work together that I've

527
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: got to fully appreciate, just like what Joy's saying, like

528
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 5: you are a gift, Like you're such a great collaborative

529
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: partner and a teammate, and you make the water warm

530
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: and safe, which makes it easy for everyone just to

531
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: jump in and play.

532
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: While managing to really care about and defend your characters,

533
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: which sometimes feels like you have to choose one or

534
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: the other, and you somehow managed to never make it

535
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: that way. It's really lovely.

536
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 6: But I think it's such.

537
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: A beautiful thing that you're saying. And the root of

538
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: that care is if you care about everybody on your set,

539
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: and you defend your people on your set, and you

540
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: make sure that every crew member on your set feels

541
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: as you know, important, as visitors might think the actors

542
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: are supposed to be. You know, I think realizing that

543
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: the circus doesn't work without every member of it is

544
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: really important, and it's one of the things that I

545
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: really value was so important on our set certainly, you know,

546
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: I've I've worked on other sets where I've seen people

547
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: be real shitty to crewe like you know, I've I've

548
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: witnessed some things where I'm like, damn, that is just

549
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: not how we're supposed to do things. And so I

550
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: think I think the more of us that you know,

551
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: check in on our department heads every day and make

552
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: sure people have what they need and feel respected, and

553
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: if they don't, we can stand up and say something

554
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: because we might have a little more protection in certain

555
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: areas than they do. Like that's also how things change,

556
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: you know. Sometimes it requires a movement, and sometimes it

557
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: requires like smaller movement that's local and just on your

558
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: sound stage, but it can really be powerful to your credits.

559
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: So if you are the one first person I ever

560
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: heard say that when you are asked by the producers

561
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: to do a forced call, that you actually talk with

562
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: the department heads before you agree, because as actors, if

563
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: you're like you know, like one or two, or you're

564
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: higher up, or you're in the majority of the next day,

565
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: they'll be like, hey, can we force your call, which

566
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 5: means can we bring you in in less time than

567
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: is required. I've always just thought like, I'll be a

568
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: team player and just say yes. And it was until

569
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: Sopia said I actually asked the department heads. It's like, oh,

570
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: I had never occurred to me. Yeah, that everyone else

571
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: is also being asked, And so kudos to you for also, yeah,

572
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: you know, for doing the same thing, because that sort

573
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: of opened my eyes to like, oh, yeah, that's another

574
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: way I can be, you know, a teammate to everyone else.

575
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: That's really sweet. I appreciate that, Rob, you know. I

576
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: think one of the things that I really cherish, Like

577
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up in like the industry, right, Like

578
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't come from an acting family, but my dad

579
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: was a photographer for his career, and I think from

580
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: the outside that seemed sort of fancy to some people, like, oh,

581
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: your dad takes pictures for a.

582
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: Living, and like, yeah, it's cool, he's an artist.

583
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: But to be clear, on set, he's the help, Like

584
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: he's the crew.

585
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: You know.

586
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: I grew up working crew, and I know who comes

587
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: into a studio and is nice to the crew, and

588
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: who comes into a studio and isn't. And I'm really

589
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: grateful for those lessons I learned before I could even

590
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: articulate that they were lessons, because it's exactly what.

591
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: You're talking about, Sharon. It's what you learn in the theater.

592
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 6: It's being.

593
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Being on the crew side on a film set, or

594
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: being part of the crew in a theater like it is.

595
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: It's why we use this term circus affectionately. It's why

596
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: you hear me say it all the time because it

597
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: takes all of us. And yeah, it's always really cool

598
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: to watch people who navigate it well. And you certainly

599
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: taught me, Sharon, to Joy's point, like I can when

600
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: something's wrong on set, I'll be the first person to stand.

601
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 6: Up and be like, do not speak to the crew

602
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 6: that way.

603
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: And you know, like I get into ferociousness, and you

604
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: managed to do it, but like in a way that

605
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: makes people go, oh, she's so funny, she's so cool,

606
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I'm going to try to learn

607
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: from Sharon.

608
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 6: I don't.

609
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: I don't have to let my like sharp little ADHD

610
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: brain drive the car.

611
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: All the time.

612
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: Grease is definitely one of your superpowers, one hundred percent,

613
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: because even before you came onto this, as soon as

614
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: you're as soon as Sylvia came on the screen, I

615
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: think we all were saying, like she just floats into

616
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: this room.

617
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 6: You float in every scene.

618
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: Well, that that's the dance background for sure, and for

619
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: those kinds, for that kind of character, it did make sense.

620
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: And there are characters that I play who don't who shouldn't,

621
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm grateful for that training.

622
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: Do we want to do some honorable mentions? Gang, Yeah, Sharon,

623
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: The honorable mentions are just sort of the whatever was

624
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: sort of a highlight for us in the episode. It

625
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 5: can be something we've already discussed, it can be something

626
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: we haven't, but just something you want to shout out

627
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: as it was something you particularly liked.

628
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: I particularly liked being out there on the water on

629
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 4: that inner coastal that is so special to us North Carolinians,

630
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: especially those of us who love Wilmington. I'd also like

631
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: to shout out this.

632
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: Listeners. Sharon just put on her one Tree Hill season

633
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: eight rap hat.

634
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 4: Wow. It's so good, right and I found it recently

635
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 4: and it really means so much to me to have

636
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: to have that keep saying. And when I went back

637
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 4: to Wilmington last year as the Azalea Queen for the

638
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: seventy seventh Annual Azalea Festival share it. Yes, yes, yes,

639
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: the love for One Tree Hill just is still so

640
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: vibrant and vital. And you guys have made it so

641
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: because you go back to do the fan the reunions,

642
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 4: and it's you have left an indelible print on that

643
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: that city.

644
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: Whet Sharon being the Azalea Festival Queen, does that mean

645
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: you did the like ride in the in the convertible

646
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: and the whole.

647
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: Oh yes, the motorcade the oldest Azalia queen by thirty years, definitely,

648
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: and and it feels fabulous. It was fabulous. They dressed

649
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: me beautye, fantastic bridal shop that just made it all

650
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: so easy. With the fried stuff that just really worked

651
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 4: on a gorgeous count. And I have the distinct pleasure

652
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: because I'm sure now it will be public, but to

653
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: hand the thrown over to none other than Joy, Oh.

654
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 5: My god, we know her, Oh my god.

655
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: And of course that's the moment she had to go,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, no, yeah, that's so fun perfect.

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Speaker 4: Well, she's very excited. They're very excited. I'm very cute.

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Speaker 5: Listen, that's a big tiara to Phil coming in after you.

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Speaker 5: But I think if anyone can do it.

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Speaker 6: It's Joy, Rob, you'll get your chance.

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Speaker 5: Do they have Azalea whatever festival, kings or princes.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have to figure it out because you'll

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Speaker 3: need to do it at some point.

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Speaker 5: Let's be progressive about this guy, as I'd like to

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Speaker 5: be an Azalia king.

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Speaker 3: There we go, we'll speak it into my honorable mention.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, hold on.

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Speaker 5: I have so okay, you scare your notes. I have two.

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Speaker 5: The first one's obvious. It's to Joy because she directed

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Speaker 5: the heck out of this episode. I remember before we

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Speaker 5: even started directing, she sent an email to all of us.

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Speaker 5: It was just very sweet and thoughtful. It was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a madness. I just want everyone

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Speaker 5: to stay alive, which means like, if you're in the background,

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Speaker 5: have a conversation with someone, here's how the room's going

676
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 5: to be blocked. Maybe think about where you'd like to be.

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Speaker 5: Like she was so on top of it, but in

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Speaker 5: watching this episode now, it's just so good from start

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Speaker 5: to finish, and she did an amazing job. But my

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Speaker 5: second honorable mention goes to my daughter, who, for the

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Speaker 5: second episode in a row, was awake for the entire thing.

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Speaker 5: Fussing playing and then fell asleep as we're wrapping up

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Speaker 5: the episode. Wow, she needs to work on her timing.

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Speaker 3: Listen, or she's perfect because she was a sweet baby angel.

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Speaker 3: We got a little bit of headphone grab which we

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Speaker 3: love to see, and now we're going to wrap up

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Speaker 3: for the day and you have a sleeping baby and

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Speaker 3: you can have some rob time.

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Speaker 5: You're right, she's perfect, said, she's perfect.

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Speaker 6: Pect she's perfect.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, my, there's so many I just thought everybody was

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Speaker 3: so good in the episode. But the bonding of you,

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Speaker 3: Sharon and Daphne for me was so much fun to

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Speaker 3: watch and gave me all the fun I got to

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Speaker 3: have in the episode. To have the moms be the

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Speaker 3: foils and love each other, and to get my moment

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Speaker 3: to you know, pull you aside and say why are

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Speaker 3: you bonding like? It was fun for me And I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I think there's something. There's just something I

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Speaker 3: love about getting to focus on you both, and I

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Speaker 3: like watching you both as a viewer.

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Speaker 6: So it's you and Daphne for me.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I can throw in a third real quick. It

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Speaker 5: would be the exchange between Brooke and Sylvia when when

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Speaker 5: Sylvia is like you should call your mom it's Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 5: and Brooke is like, absolutely not. If if anyone wants

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Speaker 5: to go back and watch that scene because it's great

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Speaker 5: from from both Sofa and Sharon, but watch the final

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Speaker 5: moment of Sylvia processing what Joy has just said. Because

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Speaker 5: I went back and watched again because it's what's so

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Speaker 5: good about it is there's so much happening behind your

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Speaker 5: eyes that like it gave me as an audience member,

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Speaker 5: like so much room to go? Was it this? Was

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Speaker 5: it that? Because the first time I watched it, I went, Ooh,

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Speaker 5: that's a controlling mom who realizes she might have a

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Speaker 5: hard time controlling this person. And then I went back

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Speaker 5: and watching it again, I'm like, or is she trying

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Speaker 5: to understand her? It's a great thing actors do where

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Speaker 5: it's like they don't they muddy the water, you know,

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Speaker 5: they don't make it easy to decide on a character.

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Speaker 5: But that moment that you give at the end of it,

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Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, take that to therapy. There you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Should we do a listener question?

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Speaker 6: Yes we should. What do we got?

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Speaker 5: Rob Chloe asks if you could have any person dead

727
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: or alive narrate a movie or documentary about your life.

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Speaker 5: Who would it be?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I have one. I have one, and I think

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Speaker 6: you'll like it.

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Speaker 3: Sharon. Years ago. Actually, when we were doing our show,

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Speaker 3: I got to be part of this really cool thing

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Speaker 3: and it was a story, you know, about a bunch

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Speaker 3: of young women actors whatever, and we got the whole

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Speaker 3: thing was you know, they always do those silly like

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Speaker 3: next generation whatever that means lists, But what they did

737
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Speaker 3: was they photographed each of us in the style of

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Speaker 3: like an old Hollywood actress. And I got to with

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Speaker 3: this voice of mine be Lauren Bacall for the day,

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Speaker 3: so the hair and the clothes and the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we did little video clips and I delivered.

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Speaker 3: They just put your lips together and blow and the

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Speaker 3: whole whatever. And I don't know why in my brain

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Speaker 3: as I was trying to think of, you know, whose

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Speaker 3: voice would I want to hear? I would I would

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Speaker 3: love if I could bring her back and listen to

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Speaker 3: her talk.

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Speaker 6: That would be cool for me.

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Speaker 4: It took me a minute, but I know because she

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Speaker 4: played my mother in two different sitcoms, Dixie Carter. Oh, now,

751
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 4: as she was one of the leads and designing women. Yes,

752
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Speaker 4: he could turn a phrase and turn your opinion upside

753
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Speaker 4: down because she was so laser smart and so elegant.

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Speaker 4: And she's also from Tennessee like my mom is. And

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00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: we had such a great time. And you'll find clips

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Speaker 4: for now on YouTuber, a social media with her uh

757
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: doing these long monologs and uh. She played Maria Callis

758
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: in Terence McNally's beautiful play called Masterclass, and she was

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00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: not noticed a theater actress, but she is Terrence's favorite

760
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 4: because she had a grace about her and a steel magnolia.

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Speaker 4: That's it. And I miss her all the time. And

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Speaker 4: her voice me talk about me would make me feel

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Speaker 4: very very good.

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Speaker 6: That would be so cool.

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Speaker 5: I think I would go Jerry Seinfeld because I just

766
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 5: think it would be funny to hear him being like,

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00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 5: what's the deal with talking about food? It's all he

768
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Speaker 5: ever does? I think he could sell it?

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Speaker 4: Yes, he could.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Proud of you both.

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Speaker 5: I love you, Sharon.

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Speaker 4: Oh it is so mutual. Thank you for making a

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Speaker 4: life while you are making art.

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Speaker 6: M sweet soul. We are just we're the luckiest to

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Speaker 6: have you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Is Sylvia in season nine?

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00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: No, No, that season, I was just season eight, but

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00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: it was a full season because we had you know,

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Speaker 4: the bachelorette party, ye riding a bronc, being at a

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00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: far ending up in the bathtub. You know. It's yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was. It was a very full season and I

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Speaker 4: spent a lot of good time with my family in

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Speaker 4: the house I rented at the interview. My dog came

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Speaker 4: with me.

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Speaker 6: Oh, your house was the best.

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Speaker 4: It was a great house. My dad helped me drive

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Speaker 4: out there with the dog. It just meant it was

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Speaker 4: a bit important time in my life. It really was.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're the best. Thank you for taking time out

792
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Speaker 5: of your day to come hang out with us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Sharon.

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Speaker 3: We love you and I can't believe it. Guys, we're

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Speaker 3: motoring through this season. Next week we're on to season eight,

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Speaker 3: episode ten lists planned.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t H.

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Speaker 4: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 6: See you next time.

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Speaker 1: We all about that high school drama girl, drama girl,

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Speaker 1: all about.

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Speaker 4: Them high school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: cheering for the right teams drama queens.

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