WEBVTT - "I WAS UNJUSTLY FIRED"

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hi? Is this Lars?

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<v Speaker 2>It sure is?

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<v Speaker 1>How is life Lars? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Life is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is?

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<v Speaker 2>How is yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? Why is life okay? Ish?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>This year I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I just graduated from college and I got hired

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<v Speaker 2>at like my dream job, and I for an art teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am non binary, and that was something kind

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<v Speaker 2>of private in my own life, and I dressed more masculinely,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, And so the school district hired me obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was going really really well, and I taught

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<v Speaker 2>for about three days, and the parents very wealthy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a very wealthy school district.

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<v Speaker 2>They basically took one look at me and decided that

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't or I wasn't the look that they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>in their school district, and they found a way to

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<v Speaker 2>get me put on administrative leave. And I was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of disgraced from the area and discriminated against.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear that. How long were you teaching

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<v Speaker 1>there before that happens?

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<v Speaker 2>I worked there for several months, but the kids came

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<v Speaker 2>back on a Wednesday, and by the next Monday, I

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<v Speaker 2>was already put on leave.

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<v Speaker 1>What did they tell you was the reason as to

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<v Speaker 1>why they were putting you on leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually had found my instagram, which was not connected

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<v Speaker 2>to my career as an educator like at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was my art instagram that I had when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in art school to become an art teacher, and

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<v Speaker 2>they basically went online found me somehow, and then like

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<v Speaker 2>there was it was a picture like three years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth photo into a post of a charcoal nude that

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<v Speaker 2>I did, as you do in art school. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>this new drawing that I just happened to do, it

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<v Speaker 2>just happens to be a transgender woman. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>drew returned to true deform. She had a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>her genitals and like a premature like breasts. And they

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<v Speaker 2>saw this photo and they started this rumor that I

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<v Speaker 2>was drying minors. And so I went into HR Monday

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<v Speaker 2>morning because they had called me in and they said

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, the parents had called nine one one

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they're if their students were placed in my classroom,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, they'd be in danger. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>put on leave right then and there like no questions

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<v Speaker 2>asked because I was a distraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are you pursuing a lawsuit against the school.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really really scared too. They said that I have

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<v Speaker 2>grounds of defamation and all these things. But like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've I met with a lawyer once and he basically

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<v Speaker 2>told me, he was like, do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a poster child? And I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I can handle that. You know, all I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do is teach.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you did have a consultation with a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, okay. And when they said to you, are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure you want to be a poster child? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>That meant, are you afraid of this becoming some form

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<v Speaker 1>of local or even national news? Are you like, what

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<v Speaker 1>in what you know of of the process of pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>this legally would be the things that you are afraid of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's definitely it. It's well as of right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the district has done a okay job of keeping my

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<v Speaker 2>legal name out of it, the name I was going

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<v Speaker 2>as a teacher, you know. And but I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>still articles about this online and all these horrible things,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just know if my name was out there,

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<v Speaker 2>then like that would be it. And I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if I could teach after that, because who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to hire a teacher who's had their name dragged through

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<v Speaker 2>the mud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, sure, you said so. You said that there

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<v Speaker 1>are already articles out.

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<v Speaker 2>About this, there is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>How? Really? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna say, from like really like right

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<v Speaker 2>leaning articles that obviously are not favoring LGBTQ lives in

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<v Speaker 2>any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you, is in

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<v Speaker 1>in what already exists? How do these articles paint you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a groomer, like a a person that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>around children.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mm hmm mmmmm. Yeah, I can tell, I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can totally understand why you would not

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<v Speaker 1>want to pursue this. I mean, you're not here to

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<v Speaker 1>get into litigations with people or getting money out of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're here to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And these articles they don't they don't mention your real name.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right exactly or else they know that they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>going against my leave or resignation or whatever is actually

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<v Speaker 2>in the books. Like they know that if they say

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<v Speaker 2>my name, my real name, then I mean, it'd be.

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<v Speaker 3>A whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your friends and family telling you to do

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, it's it's so mixed. You know, if I

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<v Speaker 2>if I tell someone out my situation, then they get

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<v Speaker 2>really heated and excited say we need to see it

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<v Speaker 2>and take down, like awfully can a tree like this?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there are people who have been, have been,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sitting back on it with me saying like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>like leave, move away, try something else, or you try

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<v Speaker 2>teaching somewhere else, like obviously, you know, not everywhere's going

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot you like this. You know, I'm in a

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<v Speaker 2>red state, very red state, and you know, maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>I just go somewhere else and not get my name

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<v Speaker 2>out there, then I have a chance. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm scared to do anything, like I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't even want to. I do want to teach still

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart, but I'm so anxious and nervous now

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<v Speaker 2>about everything m.

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<v Speaker 1>In What you've kind of been weighing around in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind between what you believe personally and what people you

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<v Speaker 1>trust are telling you to do. What are what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the options that you've been considering as to

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<v Speaker 1>how you want to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the easy, the physically easiest thing it could

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<v Speaker 2>do is move on and move away and try to

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<v Speaker 2>teach in a place that's more welcoming of quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>people like me. But the thing that would maybe help

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<v Speaker 2>me like spiritually, where it would be to get some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of justice out of this, even if it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the defamation case against the parents that made

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<v Speaker 2>up the horrible rumors, or the grandiose option of going

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole school district, which is sure probably the

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<v Speaker 2>scariest part.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, m. What can I ask?

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<v Speaker 4>What is in.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at the option of trying to get some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of justice? What is compelling you towards that option?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the fact that it still keeps me up at night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been months, and you know, I am in real

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<v Speaker 2>therapy as well, and you know I've tried all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still talk and turn about it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not fair that people can just rip the rug out

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<v Speaker 2>from underneath you. And again like this was my first

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<v Speaker 2>job right out of school, Like I'm young, and I

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<v Speaker 2>this is my dream. So it's just it's just frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>Could I ask if you're if you're cool for telling me,

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<v Speaker 1>what kinds of things has your reveal therapist told you

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation? And have they been helpful for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They've been really helpful, just trying to get me through

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<v Speaker 2>day by day. At this point, when this first started happening,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she was obviously very concerned and saying like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you go to the court, they might

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<v Speaker 2>like bring me in because you know, the big thing

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<v Speaker 2>with the right is that they think that people of

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<v Speaker 2>varying genders are mentally ill, and so they would have

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<v Speaker 2>my therapists come in and all that. And she's tried

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<v Speaker 2>to like work me through some plans for that, which

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<v Speaker 2>is even more so scaring me away from legal action

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like I don't want to involve all these

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<v Speaker 2>people in my life. But other than that, she would say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again, not everywhere is going to treat you

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<v Speaker 2>like this. This was a special case with the really

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy district and a really red area, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to like tell me that there there's no

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<v Speaker 2>like there's there's still hope, right, But it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>thing working through the trauma, I guess even though like

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<v Speaker 2>logically I'm like, yeah, it's fine, I'll be okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>people still hurt me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you you said that it's a thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>keeping you up at night, yeah, exactly, what are what

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<v Speaker 1>are like the persistent thoughts at you know, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is three am that you're having about this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>What is like that one of the most more most

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<v Speaker 1>persistent things.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's it's the feeling of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always believed everything happens for a reason, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>thought like, well, maybe i got shoot away from teaching

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<v Speaker 2>because not meant to be a teacher, or maybe i

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<v Speaker 2>got shoot away from the area because I'm not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be here, which I already moved cities to pursue

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<v Speaker 2>this one job as is, and so to make another

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<v Speaker 2>big move is like a whole other journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm just I'm I just been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find a reason that just happened to me, just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think not not you know, stay away from like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just not a good enough teacher because

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<v Speaker 2>I was. They were you know, my actual like Adaman

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, you're gonna be teacher of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>You're amazing, Like we love you. But it was just

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<v Speaker 2>the parents that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked, I'm glad you've I'm glad you feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me let's talk about this for a second. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me away from all of this, what made you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go be a teacher?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm super passionate about art, and I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to be passionate about art in their own lives because

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<v Speaker 2>it's through my other you know, things that happened to

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<v Speaker 2>me in my life, Like this has been my escape

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<v Speaker 2>through like traditional media or whatever. Art history. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big nerd about it and that was really exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at the school I taught was was younger kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and just to see them like kind of like get

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<v Speaker 2>a concept like that is like worth a whole day work.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, good, you know. I have a I have a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a thought about this, which is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what you just told like like what you

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<v Speaker 1>just told me of you know, remove everything and just

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<v Speaker 1>like what is your passion? What do you want out

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<v Speaker 1>of life? What is important to you? And really like

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<v Speaker 1>like let everything go and just think about that in

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum. And you know the things that you told me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm passionate about teaching. I'm passionate about art. I like

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<v Speaker 1>when when I get a kid to get something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would really think about that and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you bring everything back in and you're thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to move forward. Do I do a lawsuit?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I move do I do this? Do I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I would think about the answers to those questions in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of which way forward best serves that passion. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't, I don't know the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that question, but that's kind of the framework of

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel like I would think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I think that's really enlightening actually, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it gets so lost in all of that, right, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my original passion for everything, it's so lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it gets lost. I mean, I'm sure there's feelings

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, feeling like you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>a voice for other people, or that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, or you know, I don't, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what all the sort of thoughts you

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<v Speaker 1>you might be having, But I can see how they

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<v Speaker 1>would take you away from what the core was of

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<v Speaker 1>why you were doing all of this in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would hope that you really operate out of

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<v Speaker 1>that core because it's so easy in talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer and talking to your friends who are getting heated

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<v Speaker 1>to and talking to other people in the care It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just so many things that are gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>you away from the core of I'm passionate about art,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm passionate about teaching, and I want to move forward

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<v Speaker 1>in a direction in my life that best serves those passions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope that as you're figuring all this stuff out,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not letting yourself get too dragged away from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I really needed to hear that, Hyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, good good and I'm sorry again that this

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you and I and I I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I hope that, like I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people being however they're going to be, is not dragging

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<v Speaker 1>you away from from the passions that you have in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for sharing all of this with us, Lars. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is a is a tough thing for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any other aspect of this or anything at

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<v Speaker 1>all that you want to say to me or to

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<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, through all this, I've learned of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>horse stories that have happened to young teachers. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>our country is begging and yearning for more teachers. We're

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<v Speaker 2>still pushing them away, and I just want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to other disgraced teachers and tell them, well, what what

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<v Speaker 2>you said is, don't lose your passion, and there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be, you know, a way that we can

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<v Speaker 2>still be in the field and do what we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do because they do need us at.

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<v Speaker 3>The end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for calling and sharing Lars. Good

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<v Speaker 1>luck to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great day, Lyle you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was a that was a tough one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Lars. I'm sorry that that happened to them,

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<v Speaker 1>But they did say that thing of what they like

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<v Speaker 1>that was. I think what I picked up on in

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<v Speaker 1>when they were talking was when Lars was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm a good teacher. I know I did a

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<v Speaker 1>good job. I know I'm good at it. And they

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<v Speaker 1>said to that very confidently just now, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>glad to hear that, because, you know, through all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence and certainty that they had in their own

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<v Speaker 1>abilities to do the thing that they like to do

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<v Speaker 1>appears to not have been rattled too heavily, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope they move forward again in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>that best suits them. I can understand again the multitude

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<v Speaker 1>of ways that with the freaking news and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and your friends, who are you do this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you're people were telling you to do the other thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I can see how you can kind of get away

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<v Speaker 1>from yourself. And I hope that doesn't happen to Lars,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like it won't. I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. I hope Hello, Hello, David. How's it going, man?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's what's life like?

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<v Speaker 5>Life is good. I'm just just living, working, trying to

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<v Speaker 5>make the best out of it. How's your life going?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything in particular that you called in to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>So, man, it's kind of embarrassing. But back in the day,

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in middle school, around twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 5>my buddies and I probably around seven guys collected our

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<v Speaker 5>pee in so you know those like Arizona gallon jugs,

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<v Speaker 5>like Arizona t gallon jugs. Yes, So it all started

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<v Speaker 5>because he didn't have a bathroom in his basement, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, one day he had to go pee and

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<v Speaker 5>we have this gallon jug and he's like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 5>was pissing this we did, and then one thing led

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<v Speaker 5>to another, and then I pissed in it, and then

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<v Speaker 5>a couple other people did, and then it got to

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<v Speaker 5>the point where we had probably like six gallon jugs

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<v Speaker 5>of of piss in his basement. And then after a

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<v Speaker 5>few months, then I'm saying this, like, in my head,

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<v Speaker 5>it didn't seem that bad, but as I'm talking about it,

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<v Speaker 5>it sounds like really fucking bad. But after a few months,

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<v Speaker 5>we dumped it off of a bridge in our hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>You dumped it off of a bridge, Yeah, I did

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<v Speaker 1>it get on anyone or anything, No, it.

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<v Speaker 5>Was it was kind of an abandoned bridge over just

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<v Speaker 5>a forested area. But it smelled pretty bad. That was

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<v Speaker 5>a key factor.

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<v Speaker 1>How long did you guys keep the bottles before you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to dump them?

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<v Speaker 5>It was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 5>it was a couple of months, Like probably like at

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<v Speaker 5>least two of them were a couple months old, Like

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<v Speaker 5>they got to the point where they smelled like like pneumonia.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it that convinced you to finally dump them

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<v Speaker 1>after two months?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we were storing them in like a rubber made

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<v Speaker 5>toat you know, and eventually the tote was full, and

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<v Speaker 5>then we thought to ourselves, you know, maybe maybe this

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<v Speaker 5>tradition has gone on long enough and we should.

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<v Speaker 4>Get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like you learned from this situation.

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<v Speaker 5>That hive mind is a real thing and when enough

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 5>close friends or anyone that have the same goal put

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 5>their heads together, they can really accomplish something pointless.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like this has brought you closer together

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sometimes, I mean the main people involved. We did

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of stupid shit during that time in our lives,

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<v Speaker 5>but we're all still friends and sometimes we'll reminisce about

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<v Speaker 5>the really embarrassing stupid shit that we did, and only

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<v Speaker 5>we really know about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And now you know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel that other people not know about this?

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<v Speaker 5>How do I feel about other people not knowing about it?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about other people knowing about this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Knowing about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is the only time I've talked about

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<v Speaker 5>it with anyone other than my friends. Like when I

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<v Speaker 5>told the call screener, it just felt kind of icky

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 5>coming out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Mhm. Has as talking about it given you a different

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I kind of I knew it was pretty weird,

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<v Speaker 5>but now I feel like it's really weird. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a normal guy, but you know, like middle school age.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff is always really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something because you gave us this, David,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna give you something, all right. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've talked about this before, but I

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<v Speaker 1>I was involved in a Jewish youth group in high

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<v Speaker 1>school that was about fifteen years old, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>there was like a retreat at a hotel, and I

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<v Speaker 1>once peed in a coffee cup. Wait, no, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee cup. It was a clean It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a glass cup. I once peed in a glass cup

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<v Speaker 1>and then left it on a coffee table in the

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<v Speaker 1>lobby of the hotel.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, wait, where did you pee in it?

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<v Speaker 4>Originally I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have taken it to the bad I think

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<v Speaker 1>I probably took it to the bathroom and peed in

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<v Speaker 1>it and then left it on a coffee table in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the hotel.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I've never seen you outside of your gecko costume.

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<v Speaker 5>So even though you're fifteen I'm still imagining you in

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<v Speaker 5>your get.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, just as a younger Gecko doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just like walking into this hotel, Bobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that might have made it worse flat.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just hope no one picked it up and

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was their apple juice.

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<v Speaker 4>That they left.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, hoping is all you can really do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for sharing that, though. It makes me feel slightly

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<v Speaker 5>less downcast about what I did back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>David, is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to say I saw you in Chicago. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>that was a really awesome show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, beautiful. Ah, that's sick.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't expecting that venue to be that that, Like

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<v Speaker 5>this the room to be that small.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great. I love that n That was

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<v Speaker 1>super intimate. People were like right up against the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>People really shared some ship that night. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm loving doing those live shows. I'll be back. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back in Chicago next year. Awesome, I'll see that beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, David.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, listen, I I feel like so many

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>people come to me with pissed stories. What kind of

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>guy would I be if I didn't return one of

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<v Speaker 1>my own Hello? Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your name?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jules. I'm low key, very fucking shocked

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<v Speaker 3>right now and a little excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be in the moment with me. This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is right now. You're on the phone with a gecko.

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<v Speaker 1>I am on a phone with and we we need

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<v Speaker 1>to we need to squeeze this and make it the

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<v Speaker 1>most it possibly can be. Jules, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Is I am nineteen and married to my best friend

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty one? You know the idea of like everybody

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>talks about or jokes about getting married to like their

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 3>best friend if they don't get married by a certain age. Well,

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 3>me and my friend are actually doing it. This is

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 3>a little joke.

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you picked a too young for an age.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you picked a little too young. I

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>understand I picked too.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 3>Young of an age, but this is more so me

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<v Speaker 3>and my friend after a late workshift, we're talking about

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 3>how most marriages end in divorce, over half do in America.

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<v Speaker 3>So our conclusion was because everybody doesn't take a practice

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 3>run at marriage before they get married. For the first time.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 3>So we decided to be each other's practice run of marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>We've applied for the license. Our wedding date is actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to be February third, twenty twenty three, so we

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 3>have a two three going. Neither one of our parents

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>know we bought each other rings. I'm pretty we We

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>did get a little bit of cold feet a couple

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>of days after we bought the marriage license, but we've

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>decided to like fully commit and we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, uh so you are committing to a practice run.

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<v Speaker 3>Of marriage to my best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And how is this a practice if you're actually getting married?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's uh, I think it's a good practice run

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 3>because we love each other. We get to practice like

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 3>the actual ceremony part, the paperwork and all of that,

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>and then being together having to jointly file taxes and

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 3>all of that is a good practice run. And then

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 3>we get a practice run of divorcing when time comes

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 3>to be for when we actually marry the people we.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to marry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you are getting married. You're getting actually married. Yes,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you are codifying it into law that you are married.

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You're filing your taxes together, and you are doing so

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>with the full knowledge that you plan on getting divorced

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. Yes, okay, Now what how long do

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you think you'll get married? How long do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be married for before the divorce?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I asked about I asked her this, and she

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<v Speaker 3>did leave me on red and then the next day

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>responded that she forgot to respond back to the text.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>But we we talked about it more in person, and

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 3>it was about a ten to eleven year run we

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>were planning on.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>So you were planning on getting married with a ten

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>year expiration date?

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, with a ten year expiration date.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'll tell you this. I like the

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>idea that you put a ten years on You put

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>ten years on it, and then at ten years you go,

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like it's a contract. I mean it is

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a contract. I think, uh where at the end of

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>ten years you're like, all right, should we renew or

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>should we just call it quits?

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Basicly, and our whole thing was like, well not even

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>our whole thing, A lot of our friends things was like,

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 3>how are you going to prove this if it's like

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>taken to court like that? Were like being like doing

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>fraud for taxes We've known each other for fourteen years,

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.239
<v Speaker 3>and I'd say of those fourteen years of fall at

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 3>ten of those we've been very best close friends. So

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>we have text messages, photos, all of those types of

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>things to like prove our quote unquote love. And also

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 3>since Wynda's marriage, say that it has to be romantic

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 3>love and that it can't be platonic love. You know,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>me and her are very very good platonic lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, so, Jules, you're not committing fraud.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 3>See, And that's what I was telling people, that I

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 3>was not committing tax fraud. We were getting legitimately married,

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>we are legitimately together.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I the fraud thing is not the thing that

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm interested in here. Well, do you have any

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>do you have any concerns about this at all?

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.959
<v Speaker 3>I do have some concerns. I'm concerned that she might

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 3>just be she might just be plotting my death in

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 3>the future to take all my money and that would

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>be like guaranteed with us being marriaged and all of that.

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 3>But she did just put me on her four oh

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>one k as her beneficiary primary one, so like that

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of killed my my only relief concern.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So you could kill her for her money just as

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>much as she could kill you for yours. Yes, okay,

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I suppose that love is the playing field. Okay, do

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you have any other concerns about this?

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Probably just how my parents are going to react, because

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>me and this girl have been best friends. She actually

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 3>lived with me and my parents for a little bit.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>But my concern is how they're going to react. I

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 3>feel like they're going to be like this is stupid

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>and not understand like that it's a good practice run.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, so, are you concerned at all with

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>what might happen if your relationship with your friend, uh,

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, takes a hit in any way and now

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>your your finances are fully entangled with them. Oh and

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and that is a that is a difficult thing to navigate,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't give that any thought. I felt like me

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 3>and my friend's relationship our track records. While it hasn't

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>been like the cleanest relationship, it's been very devoted relationship.

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 3>We've fought often, we've gone a few months without talking,

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 3>but we've always somehow come back around to patching things up.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Just tell me again, and what your motivation for doing

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>this is?

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 3>My motivation to get married to my friend was to

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 3>give marriage a practice round?

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Can I can? I? Can I tell you something though, Yes,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're describing is not a practice. It's it is.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You are getting married. You're not practicing getting married. You

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:32.240
<v Speaker 1>are getting married practicing it would be pretending to get married.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>There's no pretending or practicing. This is your going out

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>on the field and doing it. This is not a

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>practice if you're actually getting married. This is you getting married.

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>To me.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a practice because it's to a friend. But I

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>see your point of it not being practiced because it

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>is not pretend. It is real. So this is I

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 3>really try at marriage.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, ideally you're always getting married to a friend.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 4>This is true.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>This should be a vital thing.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't listen, Jules. I'm not here to tell you

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>what to do with your life. But I don't can

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I How many how many people have you? How many

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>people have you ran this by in your life?

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>How many people have.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I ran this by? I've personally told three people in person,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and I've like hinted towards it on my social media.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 3>But the only like real heart to heart conversation I've

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 3>had about it was probably with the person I'm getting

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 3>married to.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, again, I'm not here to burst your butt or

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you what to do with your life, but I

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm having trouble seeing how this is a practice

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>when you are just fully straight up getting married.

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 3>To me, it's a practice because it's like the friend.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like the joke that everybody talks about, but like

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 3>us actually doing it and like getting the knowledge of,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 3>like the actual marriage ceremony, the divorce to like having

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 3>to file taxes is like practice with her instead of

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 3>like somebody I might have ass love.

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Jewels. If you get you will always be getting married

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to somebody who, hopefully you believe you love. This is

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this is. This is I'm gonna I'm gonna just tell you,

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>schadw this is. This is no different from you getting married,

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>how however you view it in your head. This is

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>no different from you just getting it. And you said

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it yourself, you said, we're actually doing it. This is

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>There's there's no practicing here. This is you actually getting

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>married to a person who emotions, thoughts, feelings, and actions

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you do not have any control over. That's what getting

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>married is. So like again, I'm not going to tell

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you what to do with your life. But I mean,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>on this call right now, you've said that there were

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>aspects that you did not think through, such as the

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>idea that your relationship might not be beautiful and amazing forever,

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and I hope it is. I will say that, well,

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not even that. It's just like incorporating financial aspects

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>into this changes the dynamics of your relationship that might

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>make it less likely for it to be amazing and

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>beautiful forever. So I again, I'm not going to tell

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you what to do. But if I've brought up some

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>things on this call that you have not yet thought about,

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you should you should think about them.

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that advice very much because I did think

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought everything through, like we were planning on getting

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 3>an account together to put in money specifically for a divorce.

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 3>But that whole idea of maybe our relationship not prospering

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 3>like it has been does give me a thought on it.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Get it again? Who say that again?

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm going to change my mind. I

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 3>do think I will talk to the person more about it, though.

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about getting a pre nup?

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we talked about our pre nup.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>And what were the conclusions of that talk.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Just more so of us like talking about if we

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>want one or not, and then we decided we do.

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>We haven't gotten to the like lawyer paperwork part of

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 3>the prenup, but we were going to do that before

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>the ceremony.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I I just would encourage you to not

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>think about this as a practice, because you're it's not

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing it. A practice would not involve you

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>going down to the courthouse and actually getting married.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, so I'm actually getting married to my friend.

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>To you actually try marriage.

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>You are and you know what, You're an adult with

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>agency over your own life, and you you're free to

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want with that agency. But I guess

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>if I'm on the phone with you right now and

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it, I would just encourage you to

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>think about what you're doing as as as thoroughly as

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you possibly can before you do it.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I will put even more thought than I already have

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>into this for you and for me and the other person.

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Jules, is there anything else you want to say to

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the people the computer before we go?

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Let those intrusive thoughts within, because I'm getting married because

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>of it. Thank you have a great day.

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Geck you as well, good night, good night. I don't know, dude,

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I a fuck, I've said fucked fuck. I've said this

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 1>so many times on this podcast that and I hate

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>repeating myself. But I'm not going to tell her what

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to do. But I hate the idea of getting married

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>at nineteen years old. There are so many infinite other

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>things that you could be doing to positively and productively

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>affect your life. But then again, I don't know. Man,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>We're all wired differently, and different things bring us happiness.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to tell people what is going

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to make them happy in their life. But I do

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 1>hope at Jules thinks about this, and I hopefully gets

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the idea that you know, she's in a practice,

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>because nothing about what she described seemed to be a

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>practice to me. And I mean, look, I'm thinking of

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm really thinking about it now. All of life is

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a practice, pretty much, right. I don't know if that

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, but I'm thinking about the ways in which

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it does. Because let's say that she does get married

0:42:54.520 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and her finances become entangled with this other part, and

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>she loses a bunch of money and gets totally fucked.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean whatever, she'll be like twenty one, She'll be

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>have her youth and hopefully her arms and legs. She'll

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>be fine. I think she'll be fine, is what I'm

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to say. But I hope she thinks about it. Hello. Hello,

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>it says here you're twenty two years old from Colorado,

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and it says that you were born without a butthole. Yeah.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, I was born with a lot of medical problems,

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 4>one of which was a bubble. I had a lot

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 4>of cemmety issues, so like, for instance, my lungs and

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 4>I switched, my heart is on the opposite side of

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 4>the body, and I have to cheese vertebrae. But also

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 4>another feature is having a no bubble. Originally, it started

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 4>out as my orinary track in my large intestines were switched.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 4>So I was making little deer poops out of my

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 4>ppe when I was about two days old. So I

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 4>had emergency surgery to correct that, and so I had

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 4>a butthole, but it just wasn't formed yet. So I

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 4>had all that tissue structures and all the good stuff

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 4>for the doctors to use, and yeah, just surgically made

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 4>a butt butthole. But I had a butt crack.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you had the beginnings of a butthole, but

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>not a completed butthole.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly a pre butthole.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And so currently this and so you're talking about when

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you were a baby, currently as a twenty two year old,

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>what is the status of your butthole.

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 4>That perfectly functional? Normal? It's actually funny. I actually kind

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 4>of had an access a little shot in my parents

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 4>a little bit the other day, just climbing. But I

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 4>was out all day outside climbing, rock climbing, and you know,

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 4>in the harness of just basically forced in that position,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 4>a little came out, but you know, it just kind

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 4>of sucked it up and dealt with it, and then

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 4>when I got home just kind of cleaned up. But yeah, no,

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 4>it's pretty normal now. I had a lot of issues

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 4>growing up with it, but now it's yeah, shit happens,

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 4>and I'm pretty normal as any other normal butthole user is.

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>So how long did it take around? What age did

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>your butthole arrive at some sense of normality?

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh, good question. I would say I would say like

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 4>high school, kind of late high school, late high school.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 4>That's when I kind of.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So, so you did experience many years. I mean, I

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>think you know, if you where a toddler or a baby,

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have had enough consciousness to even remember what

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>life was like with without a normal butthole. But you

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have had in your youth conscious years where you did

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>not have a butthole.

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I had it, but I just didn't have like

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 4>normal function. So I just it wasn't as strong as

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 4>your butthole per se. And so when you could like

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 4>hold in your poop, I couldn't as well. And so

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 4>it took a lot of like just growing up and

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 4>just strength training specifically like keegels, in order to like

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 4>strengthen that and enable me to like hold my poop

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 4>per se.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Michael, you're thirteen years old, you have an abnormal butthole.

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<v Speaker 1>How does this affect your day to day life?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say not a lot. Like I was still

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 4>a three sport athlete. I played football, I wrestled, and

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I ran track and whatnot. But I'd always like come prepared.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I'd come like with a.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Bag and.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.720
<v Speaker 4>Underwear and whatnot, just in case if anything did happen,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 4>and I would be prepared for it. But like inevitably,

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 4>you just have to like prepare for it and then

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of like not be ashamed of yourself and just

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 4>accept that, like, you know, this is who I am,

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 4>and you know I'm not there yet, but I will

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 4>be and this is just part of process.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So has this process of accepting yourself and your

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>physical abnormalities been helpful to you just as a general

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>practice of being okay with who you are?

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. Like another big thing about my personality per se

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 4>is I'm autistic. I or was diagnosed with Aspergers, even

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 4>though it's not formally anymore. But that was another thing.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 4>I was just really socially awkward as younger, as a kid,

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 4>and just really was hard accepting like who I am,

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 4>and like I have a huge scar across my stomach.

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 4>So I was really ashamed of like being shirtless in

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 4>front of a large crowd because I just didn't want

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 4>people to ask questions about my scars and whatnot. But

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 4>now I love to work out and whatnot, and I

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, more than comfortable with like climbing with my

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 4>shirt off and just going out in public without my

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 4>shirt on, you know, because I developed muscles. But it's

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 4>also it's just it doesn't matter because it doesn't define me,

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I define those characters like like for autism, growing up,

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 4>my parents treated me normally like they would with my

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 4>other siblings, and that was probably the best thing that

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 4>could have happened to me. It's just like, you know,

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 4>not being treated special because of my conditions.

0:48:55.920 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you had times maybe by teachers or by other

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>students growing up where you were treated differently because you

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>had autism?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say I was pretty pretty reluctant actually, just

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 4>growing up a good family environment and just good friends

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 4>around me. I would say that, like I was just

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 4>more unaware of like how they were treating me, like

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 4>viewing that as like something negative, some like reflecting and

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 4>like oh wow, they're an asshole. But like maybe before

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 4>I was like holy shit, someone's talking to me or

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 4>something like that. But I try not to view it

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 4>as like something that they're like directly negative towards me.

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 4>It's more of like a misunderstanding on their part.

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Mmm. I mean, so it sounds like, you know, growing

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>up you had to deal with a lot of physical

0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:00.879
<v Speaker 1>and mental challenges. To where you are at in your

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>life right now, what degree are these things still challenging you,

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 1>if if any at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say it's it's I'm in college right now,

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm on my final setch of that, and I'm still

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of discovering myself and still trying to figure out myself.

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I've been living alone for about two years now, and

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm still running a lot about myself, and a lot

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 4>of it is, you know, not positive, like you know,

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not as outgoing as I thought I was, or

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 4>probably blah, I want more friends or something like this

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 4>as all just stemming from my own issues. But it's

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 4>like just realizing that it's my problems and it's not

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 4>like other people.

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>What can I can I start kind of stopping for something?

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>When you when you say when you say in this

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>discovery process that you're talking about, when you say you

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>discovered you're not as outgoing as you thought you were,

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

0:50:59.160 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>What did that discovery look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a really good question. I would say that

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean that by like like in kind of first introductions,

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Like if I would say I'm outgoing with with people

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm comfortable with and people that I know, but like

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, and being introduced or talking to a job

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 4>at the bar, or just like a random student that

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I haven't met before. It's just like a lot more

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 4>nerve wracking, and I can't really be my true self

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 4>and be as outgoing as I think I am, just

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 4>because I kind of freeze up and and so forth.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And is this something that you are optimistic about being

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of overcome in the future.

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:59.800
<v Speaker 4>H Yeah, yeah, I would say so. I like sitting

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 4>in as I like education because I just like failing

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 4>and I like seeing progress because that's the one thing

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm starting to realize is like failure is good and

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 4>even though it doesn't feel good in the moment, it's

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 4>a really good teaching point and you can become better

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 4>off of it. And so that's like me becoming a

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 4>better out, more outgoing person. It's just me more willing

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 4>to become uncomfortable with those situations that I try to

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 4>exclude myself from.

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It is interesting, It is interesting, and I feel like

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 1>you've had to do that a lot in your life,

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>so you're kind of used to the process.

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 4>No, I've also been like leaking spinal fluid. That was

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 4>one of my seat surgeries caused me to leak spinal

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 4>fluid for eighteen years of my life, and that was

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 4>just me getting used to being uncomfortable and so now

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 4>it's like a lot of times I'm either extremely uncomfortable

0:52:56.520 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 4>or not uncomfortable, and like when I am comfortable, it's

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 4>it's a weird feeling, you know. It's like it's just

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 4>like I can't say still, I have to be doing

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 4>something consistently, or I have to be putting myself in

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 4>these uncomfortable situations, or else I just like get bored

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and complacent.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Well this is cool, man, because you know you still

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like everyone have problems and challenges with your life.

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You haven't, you you have not solved the game of existence.

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like you're it sounds like you're like

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting on a good foundation of dealing with your problems,

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a better one than maybe you had growing

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>up as a result of those experiences growing up. Is

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that accurate?

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Like everybody has adversity, it's just like kind of

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.760
<v Speaker 4>where that is in their life and like what areas

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 4>that adversity is, And you know, kind of your character

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>is defined by how you overcome those adversities.

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>But did you say at one point that you have

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a poop out of your penis? Yeah?

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 4>No, that's how the doctors found it out is they

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 4>saw like like I don't know if you've ever very

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 4>vivid like graphic explanation, but if you've ever skinned the

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 4>deer and you take out a digestive track, you see

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of like poop pellets, like in the digestic track,

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 4>and they're like little pellets, and then space. It's like

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 4>a snake eating these pellets for safe and so that's

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 4>what my penis looked like, was like these little pellets

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 4>like space style, and they're like, holy shit, it would

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:41.359
<v Speaker 4>be good.

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the fact that you had to poop

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 1>out of your penis at a young age, it's set

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you because that is like you've already done the hardest thing,

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>so everything gets a little bit easier from there. So

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of you got said nicely with that.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely it sets the pace and gives you some perspective.

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Michael, is there anyth else you want to say to

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the people the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>I would just say, you know whatever, you're going to

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 4>keep your head up and there's always silver lining and

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 4>you always pop up through. It's enough time.

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling, Michael, Yeah, thank you.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 4>Ile I a good rest of your day, man.

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I like that guy because he had a very interesting

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>perspective on how he's living his life. No, he started

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>off at like level ten difficulty and then everything just

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit easier from there. I'm kind of inspiring.

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of inspired to attempt to poop out of

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>my own penis so that every challenge that I go

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>through in life seems comparatively easier. But I don't know

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 1>how to do that, so I will not there.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Rep Cant goes on the line taking your phone calls

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 4>every night.

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>The repeat Can goes doing his ride's teaching.

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>You cloud liver your

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Life, but he's not really an expert.