1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and today 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: for our feminist movie Friday, which potentially could be a Wednesday. 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of things moving around, but I 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: think it'll be a Friday. We are continuing with our 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: month of revisiting some childhood favorites of ours. And if 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: you don't know this, typically how this works is we 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: alternate Samantha and I choosing the book in the movie. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: This month, the movie was mine. Samantha got the book, 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: which you could already hear. So this is oh I 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: loved this movie. We are bringing back the animated nineteen 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: eighty two film The Last Unicorn, directed and produced by 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Arthur Rankin Junior and Jules Bath. 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: This is where I was like, Oh, I realized the 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: names are the animators for all the Christmas classics. 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Yes, all the claymation things. Yeah, yes, that they did 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: the same. 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. The others didn't give me as much 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: nightmare as this one. 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: So it's a very different vibe, this one, which we're 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: going to get into. When I suggested this, I was like, Samantha, 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I think this might say something about me but anyway. 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: It was based on a book from nineteen sixty eight 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: written by Peter S. Beagle, who also did the screenplay 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: for the movie, and was animated by the early version 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: of Studio Ghibli. The cast includes Mia Farrow, Alan Arkin, 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Christopher Lee, Jeff Bridges, Tammy Grimes, and Angela Lansberry, so 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: a lot of big names. It also includes a Bangan 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: soundtrack from the band America. 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: A Bangin soundtrack. 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Oh I tell you, I would sing it right now 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: if I didn't think everybody would turn it off. I 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: loved it. I burnt it on the seat. 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes yes. When it came out, while the 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: reviews were generally positive, it wasn't a commercial success. Since 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: its released, though, it's become a cult favorite, and in 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and three it was named as the ninety 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: sixth greatest animated film of all time by the Online 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: Film Critics Society. And the animation is really beautiful. It's 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: really striking as a couple of different styles throughout that 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: kind of evoke flipping through a fairy tale book and 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: something popping off the page. This is also known as 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: the anti Disney movie, which we're going to talk about 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: more two. But yeah, yes, I loved it. I would 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: watch it over and over. I had the songs, I'd 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: belt them out. Me and my friends would watch it 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: and argue about whether or not the unicorn should have 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: made the choice that she did. I'm sure going to 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: talk about I was terrified of the red bull, and 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I would watch the red of the tail lights of 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: cars and be scared, like, that's how much scared me? Yes, 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: And to this day I find myself quoting this movie 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: most often Molly's speech, how dare you come to me now? 56 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: When I am this? 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: It did? That was poignant. 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: That was a good speech. 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: It was she had been waiting all her life. Yeah, 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: she's in the worst place in her moments. 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Nor shows up. Yes, yes, Now this is interesting to 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: me because after you watched it, you were like, this 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: is dropped? 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: What the hell? How you know when you watch things 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: as a child, Because Ray our listener who agreed with 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: me about Zubali Zoo being like, we loved it as 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: kids and then growing up are like, what what were 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: we thinking? Oh yeah, that someone was on something. 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: I was so exc for you to watch it because 70 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I knew I am well aware of what this is. 71 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: And this is one of those many classic blunders of 72 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: ours because every time you say the last Unicorn, I'm 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: thinking a legend, which is also a horrifying scape of 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: like what the hell were you thinking? 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: Type of movie. 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: The first for Tom Cruise pantsless, by the way, would 77 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: Tim Curry being the most terrifying devil ever. But I 78 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: would always get that to who confused. I was always like, 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: wait what, wait what? And every time you talk about 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: the last Unicorn, I'm like, I don't remember that part 81 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: which I had never seen. 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: Last Unicorn I've never seen. 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this was I had made an outline 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, five years ago. That's how long I've 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: been waiting for this, waiting. But I have a list 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: of traumatizing children's movies, and I if we could find 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: a way to work in the Dark Crystal or Watership Down, Oh, 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: I'd be talking about them. You best believe some of 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: them I've revisited and I'm like, as an adult, this 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: is not scary. I see you aren't scared me as 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: a child, those two are still kind of frightening. 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the one similar to Dark Crystal, what is it? 93 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Oh? With David Bowie. 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: David Bowie, which that would that's scared of me. 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that. 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see that until I was much older. 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: See, I never watched and I've never seen Dark Crystal. 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: It feels like we're definitely divided. We were also different timelines. 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: But I watched the Labymorth that loved it, never seen 100 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: Dark Crystal. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: I love Dark Crystal. Maybe we should have just a 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: if we're ever really busy, we should just have an 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: episode where we talk about the childhood. Yeah, yeah, and 104 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: why and why? However, I do think The Last Unicorn 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: has a lot of feminist thoughts to it. Oh, let's 106 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: go okay. So the plot focuses on a female unicorn 107 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: who has noticed that something is off about her forest, and, 108 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: through some hunters in a cryptic butterfly, she learns that 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: she may be the last of her kind, and that 110 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: the rest of the unicorns have been captured and perhaps 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: killed by a monstrous entity known as the Red Bull, 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: who herds them towards the ends of the earth. Though 113 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: she is warned it is dangerous not just for her, 114 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: but for the animals of her woods, because basically she 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: protects them just by being there. She leaves her forest 116 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: in search of others like her. On her journey, she 117 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: is captured by an old woman named Mommy Fortuna, who 118 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: cages her and puts her in a traveling circus called 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: the Midnight Carnival. Most of the creatures on display are 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: regular animals, but Mommy Fortuna has spelled them to look 121 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: magical or different. She even puts a She spells a 122 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: horn on the unicorns, since most people have lost their 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: ability to see the truth of a unicorn's nature, so 124 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: they see a white mare. So even though she has 125 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: a horn, Fortuna puts another one on her. She has 126 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: also caged an immortal and dangerous harpy Seleno, and is 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: very very proud of this fact. Oh She's so proud. 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: The unicorn meets and befriends a fledging magician named Schmendrick, 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: who promises to help release her, which he does, but 130 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: in the process he also releases the harpy, who kills 131 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Mommy Fortuna, and basically like Mommy Fortuna, the unicorn says, 132 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: your death waits in that cage. She's going to kill you, 133 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and Mommy Fortuna is like, yes, so my immortality is 134 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that I will live forever because I caged her and 135 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: she will never be able to forget it. This scene 136 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: real evil. Oh yeah, ooh. It stuck with me so 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: much because Mommy Fortuna is so gleeful at having captured 138 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: this heart harpy, even knowing she's gonna die and have 139 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: this violent death by this harpy. The music that's playing 140 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: when it happens, Oh my gosh, and the harpy like 141 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of eats at her. Oh the unicorn Schmindrick have 142 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to slowly walk away so as not to draw her attention. 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: This was also a cool moment in terms of, like, 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: you have the unicorn, let the harpye go because they're 145 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: both immortals and they understand each other. But it was 146 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a cool moment in terms of, like, this is a 147 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: very dangerous world. I feel like a lot of the 148 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: fantasies around unicorns are like, oh, it's all nice and 149 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: nothing violent happens, and this was like oh no, no, no no. 150 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: And she was very aware that the Harpie was going 151 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: to do this when she released her. So they then 152 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: run into a roving band of brigands that are they're 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: kind of painted as the sad robin Hood crew. They're 154 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: like eating water soup and Schmindric uses his magic to 155 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: startle them by kind of summoning of the real robin 156 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Hood and crew. And this is when Schmindrick and another 157 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: very traumatizing scene, is tied to Uh and then uses 158 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: his magic to try. He just is like magic to 159 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: as you will, and it turns the tree into a big, 160 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: bosomest sentient tree that is smothering him with her breast. 161 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: He's very voluptuous breast. 162 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Lopsided, voluptuous breast. But you already see there's indidentations in 163 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: the tree before she becomes the tree, which makes me laugh. 164 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: And then also like the vibe that she's like, no, 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: I love you, I love you. 166 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: All will kill you, we will die together. 167 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Oh, like, my god, what is happening? 168 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Yep? Yep, this was the scene in a movie that 169 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: I loved Uh. And the unicorn comes and rescues him 170 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and turns the tree back into a tree. All is 171 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: all as well. But this is also when they are 172 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: joined by Captain Collie's lover. So Captain Colley was the 173 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: leader of the sad robin Hood troop, Mollie Grew, who 174 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: immediately wants to aid the unicorn in her journey, and 175 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: this is when she gives her speech which I'm going 176 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: to talk about mo. As they get closer to King 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Haggard's Castle, which is where the unicorns are rumored to be, 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: they run into the Red Bull and all of his fiery, 179 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: angry glory. In a panic, Schmindrick uses his magic to 180 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: transform her into a human woman. The Red Bull loses 181 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: interest and retreats. He only cares about unicorns, but the 182 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Unicorn is in total shock in this new body and 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: with her new family mortality, having never experienced mortality before. 184 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Both she and Molly are angry at Schmindrick, but he 185 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: promises to turn her back. At the end of their journey, 186 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: they arrive at Haggard's castle, which is on this really 187 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: craggy cliff on sea. He is not a very welcoming host, 188 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: but they are able to convince him that Schmindrick should 189 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: be his court magician and maybe bring him a smile. 190 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: That he's made clear nothing gives him joy anymore, so 191 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: that's how they're like, maybe this guy can. And he 192 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: also takes an interest in the unicorn introduced in human 193 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: form as Lady in Mauthea, Mollie grew. Meanwhile, is tasked 194 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: with working in the kitchen. It's also really revealed that 195 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: other than the adopted prince Lear, pretty much no one 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: lives in this castle. On top of that, the magician 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that Haggard kicked out for Schmndrick recognizes the truth of 198 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Amalthea and warrens Haggard he has invited in his own 199 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: doom and then disappears, literally disappears. Oh how could I 200 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: forget the pirate cat that has an I patch? 201 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: And he says, up a cat. 202 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: I have to talk in riddles, but I'll like, but 203 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: you're also talking a pirate This doesn't make sense. 204 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good, all right. So, now experiencing human 205 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: emotions for the first time, Malthia finds herself confused and 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: forgetting her existence as a unicorn and falling in love 207 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: with prince Lear. She even starts pondering the possibility of 208 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: throwing her whole question the side in favor of immortal 209 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: wife with him. Haggard confronts her and admits he's disappointed, 210 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: and Leir is depressed, and then he keeps trying to 211 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: find happiness in the waves in the sea. He also 212 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: threatens her and he knows that there's more to her 213 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: than she is letting on, more than meets the eye, 214 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: perhaps because when he first looked in her eye, all 215 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: he could see was far as she was from. And 216 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: then he looks into her eyes and he sees his reflection, 217 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: so he knows something's up. Mollie discovers the location of 218 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: the Red Bull from the castle's talking pirate cat. Yes, 219 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: they have to go to a skeleton, get the skeleton drunk, 220 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: and wait for a certain time on the clock. The 221 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: skeleton talks too, by the way, and the skeleton recognizes 222 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: that Amalthia is a unicorn, but Molly Spindrik, Amalthia, and 223 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Leir make their way through the cock into some kind 224 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: of magical realm and then into the Red Bull's lair, 225 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: and Schmindrick reveals to Lear the truth of a Malthea's identity, 226 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: and Lear proclaims he loves who he loves. Hearing this, 227 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: a Mathia expresses her desire to forget about the unicorns 228 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: and marry Lear, but he persuades her otherwise. Now trapped 229 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: in the bull's lair by Haggard, the Bull appears and 230 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,479 Speaker 1: is able to see through a Maltheu's disguise, Schmendrick transforms 231 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: her back into the unicorn. The bull starts hurting her 232 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: to the ocean, as it has with all the other unicorns, 233 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: but Lear attacks it, dying in the process. Yeah. The 234 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: unicorn turns on the bowl and forces him into the 235 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: ocean just as he is done with the unicorns. The 236 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: trapped unicorns, which were the whites of the tides, escape 237 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: the water and the red bull is pushed under the surface. 238 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Haggard watches this unfold as his castle collapses and he 239 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: is swallowed into the sea. As he shouts the last 240 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I knew you were the last. The unicorn uses her 241 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: magic to bring Leir back to life, but leaves him. 242 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Lee wants to fight for her, but Schmendrick tells him 243 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: that he is perhaps the only human who can say 244 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: he has won unicorns love. Schmendrick also apologizes to the 245 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: unicorn for exposing her to regret and the feelings of mortality, 246 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: but she argues the importance of her experiencing regret and 247 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: love and how their actions help free the unicorns. She doesn't, 248 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: and she's basically like, you know, is it better to 249 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: have loved and lost or never to have loved? At all, 250 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: and she's like, it's better to have loved and lost. 251 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I know, regret, and I'm glad that I do. She 252 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: disappears into the forest a Shmindrick and Molly watch, and 253 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: that's how it is. 254 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: Mollie doesn't get to say goodbye. She's asleep. I was 255 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: very disappointed by that. Why couldn't Molly say goodbye? 256 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Molly needed to say goodbye. 257 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: She should have been able to say goodbye. 258 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the unicorn just leaves the unicorns by homies. 259 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: He said, yes, yes, yes, yes, Well, I have a 260 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about this whole thing, and I'm gonna 261 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: condense them. You can't find a lot of articles about 262 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: it online, though I am not the only one who's 263 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: thought about this. And recently it came back into theaters 264 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: and I was reading that people would do side by side, 265 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: So somebody who's seen it before and someone who hasn't. 266 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: It was really funny because the person who hasn't it 267 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: was like, well, I cannot believe this is a child movie. 268 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Like most of the time, they loved it, but it 269 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: was like, so. 270 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: That would have been using what the hell am I watching? Yes? 271 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. It does exist, though if you would 272 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: like to check it out. So I think a side 273 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: probably we saw this when I was like eight or 274 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: nine the first time, and even then there were some 275 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: things that just stood out to me because it was 276 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: so different than a Disney movie. It's it's very melancholy, 277 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: like the whole vibe of it is very lonely, and 278 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: you can pick up on that pretty quickly. These are 279 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: very flawed characters, all of them have I would say, 280 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: a pretty big flaw, or at least like something that 281 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: stands out as they need to work on that. And 282 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: the ending is very bittersweet. It's a very very bittersweet ending, 283 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: and for some reason I loved it as a kid, 284 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: which I'm going to talk about more in a minute, 285 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: but I really loved it. And one of the things, 286 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: especially with Molly grew and that speech that meant so 287 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: much to me, where she's essentially saying like, how dare 288 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: you come to me now? And I am this when 289 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm old, because in most things we see, you're you're 290 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: young when you meet the unicorn, like you're in the 291 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: prime of your youth when that happens, and she's angry, 292 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Like I remember that she was so angry at it, 293 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: and the Unicorn says, you know, I'm here now, and 294 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: it's just a very sweet, very real scene. Right. 295 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: I feel like a part of that was also because 296 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: when you first meet her, she's also a villain, the 297 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: way she's like, gut s Mindrick, just gut them, just 298 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: gut just kill them, just gut them. 299 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: He's magical. 300 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: Get him out of here, because she's already bitter. She's 301 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: very much having to have taken care of these people. 302 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: She's like obviously very I felt like the worn and everything. 303 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: And then she sees the Unicorn, which is supposed to 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: bring hope in life. It's just like, what the hell, 305 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: why can't you do this in my prime before I 306 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: lost all hope? 307 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. She's just been having this kind of 308 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: miserable life and she sees the unicorn and it makes 309 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: her angry and I liked that take. But she does 310 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: she kind of has a good angry cry within her 311 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: and the unicorn or like they worked it out and 312 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: they're on good terms. 313 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: They worn't it out, they did. 314 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: Her attitude changes because then she also has a really 315 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: big encouragement for Schmindric. 316 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: She is like the force of reason among the group. 317 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: It seems Yeah. Yeah, she's very supportive because at first 318 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: she was really mad at Schmindrick when he turned Mauthia 319 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: into Malthia, and then when we have to change her 320 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: back to a unicorn, and Mollie was like, well what 321 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: she wants. 322 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, free will, but it does seem with 323 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: because she is also the one that said, Spindric, help 324 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: your magician. 325 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be. 326 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: Why don't you protect her when she was being like 327 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: hurted by the red bull and we just watched them watching, which, 328 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: by the way, I was like, y'all did nothing. It's 329 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, the bull's gonna do the thing. 330 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: Keep doing the bull thing. 331 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: I guess, keep on, keep it on. That's what the 332 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: bull does. Yeah, and so Smendrick his original his whole 333 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: thing is he can do magic, but it usually doesn't 334 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: do the thing he wants it to do. So he 335 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: didn't mean to turn the unicorn into a human woman. 336 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: He was just trying to turn her into another animal 337 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: so that the bull would lose interest, and that was 338 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: part of the anger. I mean, I don't know if 339 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I can that the unicorn was distraught, like she was crying. 340 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: She said, I can feel his body dying all around me, 341 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: Like she was devastated by this, and so I think 342 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: it went from you know, he accidentally did this too. 343 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Now she's just dealing with all of these really heavy 344 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: emotions and is she's confused, like she forget where she 345 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: is and who she is. And so I think Mollie 346 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: was really angry at first because of that she saw 347 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: this pain. But then when it seemed like she was 348 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: adjusting to being human and happy, and she's like, well, 349 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe we should let her that's what she wants. Oh, 350 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, there are a lot of themes around age 351 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: and beauty and lost youth and a valuing of the 352 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: young and innocent that you can see in Mollie's monologue. Also, 353 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: there's so many themes of power that I was talking 354 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: about earlier, what you see in the kind of immortal realm. 355 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: And so you have the power of the Harpy and 356 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: then Mommy fortuna that power and wanting to control that power. 357 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: To reiterate, I was terrified of the Harpy. She is terrifying. 358 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: The music is scary, It plays like every time like 359 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: lightning goes off behind her. The design for the Harpy 360 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: is very, very terrifying. Okay, here's a quote I found 361 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: from AV Club. There's no way to get around it. 362 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: For children, The Last Unicorn is terrifying. The Rank and 363 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Bass animated feature released in nineteen eighty two, features a 364 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: tremendous voice cast, but it's not the voices that stick 365 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: in the mind, nor is it the story. Though it 366 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: certainly possesses many classical elements that contribute to its staying power, 367 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: it isn't the music, the animation, or the message. No, 368 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: the reason for The Last unicorns longevity is much simpler 369 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: than any of that. It was scary as hell. Yes, 370 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: I also found some articles when I was looking into 371 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: you got of the feminism of this movie that they 372 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: made the point that, you know, the Harpy has three 373 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: pendulous breasts. The tree that almost killed Sminjic has these 374 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: two big boobs, but they're not sexy, they're not sexualized. 375 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: They're scary, a sexual nightmare. I feel like I heard 376 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: someone describe it and again, Schmendrick. He's the one that 377 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: transformed the tree into that with his magic, and I 378 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: think you could maybe read some things in there. 379 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he's portrayed seemingly as younger in my mind 380 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: for some odd reason, but maybe not because I was like, wait, 381 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: do he and Molly live happily ever after? 382 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm confused. Yeah, they just platonic friends. 383 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 384 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: It kind of was like insinuating like they were going 385 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: to be together each other. 386 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean it ends with them together 387 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: and presumably going to stay together if it's friends or otherwise. 388 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: But I always got I picked up on a kind 389 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: of romantic thing. But I don't know. I don't know. 390 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of stuff in the movie about 391 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: fake magic and truth. So again going back to Spindrick's abilities, 392 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and it's played as a joke at first because when 393 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: he's trying to get the unicorn out of her cage, 394 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: he tries to do all these spells and just make 395 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: things worse, and then he's finally is like, well, I 396 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: pickpocket at the key, so we'll just do that. But 397 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: over time he gets better, and it's kind of that's 398 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: one of his failings, is that he's more concerned about 399 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: his ability to do magic than he is about helping sometimes, 400 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: you know. And he also transforms the unicorn both times 401 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: against her will. Really he doesn't ask her. He is 402 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: trying to help her, but that's not really what she 403 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: would have wanted. And then when you were talking about 404 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: the traveling circus, where not only do you have these 405 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: like a regular lion spelled to look like a manicore, 406 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: you have a real unicorn spelled to look like a 407 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: unicorn because people can't see it, so sort of the truth. 408 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: People can't see the truth, they need the fake magic. 409 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: And I we're going to talk about this a little 410 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: bit more at the end, but there's been a lot 411 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: of conversation about that and about people not being able 412 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: to see her for what she truly is, Like that's 413 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: what she is, and they can't see her for that. 414 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: She even has the line in there where she says 415 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: men only see what they want to see. But just 416 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: all the of these illusions that are placed over this world, 417 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: this lack of respect for magic. 418 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: Right, and she does talk about like the fact when 419 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: the men are talking about that horse, it's just a horse, 420 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 3: is like. 421 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you call me a mere mayor? Yeah? 422 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: Do you not see who? 423 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Like? 424 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: She she's hep you offend it? 425 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, no, she is very offended. And I 426 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: do kind of like it's so hard to describe how 427 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: strange this movie is at points, but I love how 428 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the strangeness is embraced as like, oh, butterflies are just 429 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: strange that way. But she has like all this old 430 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: world immortal knowledge and we don't as humans were like, 431 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: what are you're talking about? I love it? And then 432 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: you have I would say. There's also lear posturing and 433 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: trying to win a Malthia over. So he keeps like 434 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: fighting dragons and skinning them and presenting the skin to 435 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: her and she could care less. She is so unimpressed. 436 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: But that's sort of the hero's journey, and I like 437 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: that it's flipped here where she's like, leave me be man, 438 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: and he's so angry about it. He's like, I've done 439 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: everything right. I'm the hero. 440 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: I also love Molly is a sounding board for him. Yes, 441 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: she's like, well, you know, maybe you should just talk 442 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: to her, Maybe you should get. 443 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: To know her. 444 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: Do you think she wants this thing? 445 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we should use our words that she says like 446 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: maybe the lady and Mathia is not impressed by these 447 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: heroic deeds. Yeah, she really is the voice of reason 448 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Oh, this brings us to 449 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: one of the biggest themes in my opinion, regret, depression, 450 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: and loneliness. Like I said, it is, it hangs over 451 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: this movie from the minute it starts, and it because 452 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: of the way the animation is, which if you haven't 453 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: seen this, but you happen to have seen the animated 454 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings, this is the same studio. 455 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 456 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: It's like quiet, like they there's no music you can 457 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: hear like the birds and but it's very quiet. 458 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: But the opening scenes happened because I have like little 459 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: speakers around sound. 460 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: Then I was like what those words? 461 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean essentially you're just listening to the forest. 462 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: And then the two hunters come in and they have 463 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: this pretty heavy conversation about like, yeah, there are no 464 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: more unicorns. If you're here, unicorn, you're the last. And 465 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: it's just then she's like, what how could I be 466 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: the last? And then it does break into an America song, 467 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: But it's just got this immediate loneliness, quiet melancholy feeling 468 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: about it. It's very apparent, and her whole journey starts 469 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: with her questioning, oh am I the last? I can't be. 470 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: It's a very lonely movie, like everybody in it is lonely. 471 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: And I mean there are lines that when I was 472 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: rewatching it for this I just thought, Wow, me as 473 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: a kid, I did not understand that. But one of 474 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: them is there are no happy endings because nothing ever ends. 475 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: What kind of Oh my gosh, but that's kind of 476 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: Schmindrick says that to Molly. Oh yeah, r. 477 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: Wit and nonshysical abilities. 478 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but it's just it's got plenty of lines 479 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: like that. It has that emotional Molly Greo speech, it 480 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: has these really raw clearly saying this is not the 481 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: fairy tale that you get from Disney pretty much, and 482 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: that whole idea of her being the only unicorn to 483 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: ever have known love and regret and what she had 484 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: to give up to save all of the other unicorns. 485 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: There's another Linemindric has, don't cry. If you become human 486 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: enough to cry, then all the magic in the world 487 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: cannot change you back. Woof. But this is where me 488 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: and my my friends kind of disagreed is I thought 489 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: I thought she should have turned back into a unicorn. 490 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: I liked that they didn't get together her and Lear 491 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: not because I didn't. I just thought it was different, 492 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: and I kind of appreciated that it ended on, not 493 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: an angry note, but just sort of like death. Well, 494 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: he got brought back, he got he does, Yes, he does. 495 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: She brings him back with her magic. 496 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: I thought she just touched him and he remained there 497 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: the whole time. 498 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: He laid there. 499 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: No, he comes back. 500 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: I was waiting for him to come back and he didn't. 501 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: Did I miss that part? 502 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: Yow? Yes, he comes back and he's talking to That's 503 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: when Schmindrick tells him, you're the only one to have 504 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: ever won over a unicorn. Okay, but that's why I 505 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: love the line too, not that whole bit he's dead 506 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: and dead good next. 507 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: I think I really was like, okay, that makes sense. 508 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he comes back and he asked to 509 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: meet the unicorn again, and Schmindrick is kind of like, 510 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: you gotta go live your life, and so he does. 511 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: He rides off. 512 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: Man, I really forgot that part. And to the left, 513 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: she saved. 514 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Him, and that's that was the thing. That was the 515 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: how she was able to fight off the red Bull 516 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: because she was being hurted into the water. But then 517 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: she was so upset that the red Bull had killed 518 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: him that she forced the red Bull into the water 519 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and saved him. 520 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: That's funny. Ending was like, he died, okay, but he 521 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: can't taste her moving on. 522 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: No, no, but he I mean, that's what I liked 523 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: about he he respected, you know, we had that time 524 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: he said I love whom I love and then he 525 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: went to go build his own community. And I like 526 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: how she the unicorn was like, I'm glad, I'm no regret. 527 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: I have known regret, and I don't feel worse for it. 528 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I feel better for it. I thought that was very 529 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: unique and I liked it. But my friends were like, 530 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: they should have gotten together left definitely ever after all 531 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: of this, and then we got into a fight about 532 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: attractiveness and yeah, oh I remember all did too much. 533 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: We had a lot of thoughts about this movie. And 534 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: then obviously I remember the first time I watched this 535 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: as like an adult, and I just it was so 536 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: clear to me. This is about depression, especially with King Haggard. 537 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: They don't even try to hide it. He is depressed. 538 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: He is miserable. Nothing makes him happy. He cages the 539 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: unicorns because he hopes that's the only thing that brings 540 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: him a little bit of hope, a little bit of 541 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: happiness when he sees them. But he is still so unhappy. 542 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: He adopted his son and hopes that the son would 543 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: make him happy in it. He didn't and he doesn't 544 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: care for him, and it's very mean. 545 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Well he says like he says an interest that including 546 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: the magician when he had the original magicians like they 547 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: did for a minute and then. 548 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: For a minute. 549 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but also it could be a lot to say, 550 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: and I know you're going to probably jump into it 551 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: in a minute, and you order to say it. For me, 552 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: it felt like not necessarily a depression, but about men's dissatisfaction, 553 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: and so they're going to do they will destroy everything 554 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: to get what they think will satisfy them. 555 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And that segues into what I think the 556 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: red Bull kind of represents, which is male rage or 557 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: just like a determination to make yourself feel better. And 558 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anything else, anything else, because he is 559 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: not satisfied he has I mean, it's got to be 560 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of unicorns in the water, but he writes every single. 561 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: Like that's the greed, like corporation greed and millionaire billionaire greed. 562 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: Is like yeah, I could, but why would I It's 563 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: for me and I I'll step on everything right and 564 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: everyone in order to keep it for myself. 565 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean kind of the environmentalist angle would 566 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: also be they protect their woods, and once they're gone, 567 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: their woods are fair game up for grabs, yeah, for hunters. 568 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: So if he has all of these hundreds of unicorns, 569 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: then that's hundreds of woods that have been left unprotected. 570 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's and he's very he's very cold, 571 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: and he's very angry and just volatile, and he is 572 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to find a way to expose him Offia and 573 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't. She's honestly not even trying to hide anything 574 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: from him at this point. She's so can fused by 575 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: being immortal. She doesn't know, and he's just. 576 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: Yelling at her, and she was like, calm down, sir. 577 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then in the end, I think 578 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: is I think this is interesting about the two main 579 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: villains in the movie, Mommy Fortuna and King Haggard, is 580 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: that their final words are so telling because his are 581 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: like I knew it, I knew you. 582 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: Were like, they are willing to die, destroy everything just 583 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: to get what they want. 584 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, he was almost ecstatic. He was like 585 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: I knew it, and she was too. Mommy Fortuna was too. 586 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: She was like, really, yeah, you will never forget I 587 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: caged you. 588 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: And like its content warning here, but like it kind 589 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: of reminds me of like a rapist. 590 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: That power they just know. 591 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: They don't care if they die, they don't give their 592 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: punish They just want you to know they have the power. 593 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and and he was that's he was determined 594 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: to have it. And you know, the other interesting thing 595 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: about that is, as I said, he wasn't happy. He 596 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: wasn't happy at all. Even the unicorns they would give 597 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: him like a little bit. So all of that destruction 598 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: and all of that power, he couldn't stop doing it. 599 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: But he also was just not happy. He wasn't gonna happen. 600 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: Which, by the way, there may be at a point 601 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: where I saw pieces of this movie because I remember 602 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: the horses in the water, and I thought him meant 603 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: he drowned them and died killed them. Oh, and that 604 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: was like that's how he kept them so keeping their 605 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: bodies in the water. 606 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: I feel like I had that memory. 607 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's possible, it's possible. 608 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 2: That's a nightmare. 609 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a I mean when you realize they're alive, 610 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: it is a cool scene when you see them coming 611 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: up in the waves. 612 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: The entire time and drowning the entire time and can't die. 613 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Just this is when they comes. Another thing about this 614 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: is no one really truly achieves their dreams. I guess 615 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: you could argue that the unicorn doesn't freeing the unicorns, 616 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: but now she's got this other, she's got this regret. 617 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: The Magician starts as a pretty bad magician. He gets better, 618 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: but he's still like, can't control it necessarily. Mollie is 619 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: just a drift because she gave up her life for 620 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: this and now it's, you know, the unicorns going her 621 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: own way. Lear's going his own way, and she's got 622 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: the magician. But her dream of like meeting unicorn kind 623 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: of comes and goes, and then Lear's dream of being 624 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: a hero because he does. He goes to fight the 625 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: red Bull to save the unicorn, but then pretty much 626 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: immediately dies and she yeah, exactly exactly. So that brings 627 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: us to another theme, love and change. Uh so I 628 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: I this is something I also really adore about this 629 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: movie is that you do see change in the characters. 630 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: You see change and even if it doesn't result in 631 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: like the kind of fairy tale. The disnified fairytale ending 632 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: because we all know that like the original fairy tales 633 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: are pretty grim. 634 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: Well also like we also have tragedies like Bambi or 635 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: they have to kill off the parents, so they're not 636 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: all great. 637 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: But they start, they start bad and get happy. 638 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: So I think although the hound in the oh, no, 639 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a good ending. 640 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: That's a rough one. 641 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 3: That's a rough one away you're going sorry, traumatized childhood, trauma. 642 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Child strava. But you know she there are these moments 643 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: where the unicorn who seemingly has never really met other 644 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: unicorns there it's been a long long time since she's 645 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: connected with one, having that loneliness, and then meeting these 646 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: friends but still kind of feeling disconnected from them because 647 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: she's not she's immortal, she's not human, and then getting 648 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: turned into a human and that experience changing her. There's 649 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: even a song in there, Now that I'm a woman, 650 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: everything has changed. There's also a song called Walking Man's Road. 651 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: That song gets stick in my head all the time, 652 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: just randomly out of nowhere. But through her experience knowing 653 00:38:52,800 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: humans becoming a human, she does experience love, experience instagrette, 654 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: and changes and for that, and I really like that, 655 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: and she chooses to stay at unicorn in face of it. 656 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: She after experiencing that, she still is like, no, I'm 657 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: a unicorn, but I'm glad. I'm glad I had that 658 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: experience and a part I think, she says, like a 659 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: part of her will always love lear. So it's like 660 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: it didn't go away. She had this thing that really 661 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: changed her. Another big piece is being true to yourself. 662 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: So she fights the red Bull when it was supposed 663 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: to be impossible for her to do so because of 664 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: what she learned being human, but also because of her 665 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: being a unicorn and understanding who she is and what 666 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: she's capable of, and no surprise at all to me. 667 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: There are a lot of queer takes on the unicorns 668 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: transformation to a woman and coming back to her true self. 669 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: There's that kind of none of you exist narrative, like 670 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: there's no other unicorns, You're the only one. You should 671 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: blend into the world. But then she was like, no, 672 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm a unicorn. If people wouldn't see me as a unicorn, 673 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: because that is what I am. Here's a quote from 674 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: transgen X Girl. But like trans folks who feel the 675 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: need to apply various accouterments early in their transitions, Binder's wigs, 676 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: shape wear, excessive makeup, hyperfeminine or hypermaculine clothing, and accessories. 677 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: The unicorn knows she is still not her true self. 678 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: She even admits at one point that our human body 679 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: is dying all around her. Yeah, she had to come 680 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: back to who she really was. The Unicorn has also 681 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: been read as being ace. Yeah, and I was like, 682 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: that does make sense now that you mentioned it, mm, 683 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: because she's not the unicorn. She's like, she doesn't need that. 684 00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: No, yeah, she didn't need unicorn mates. She didn't know that. Well, 685 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: you didn't know they weren't there, So that's the thing, 686 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 2: you know. 687 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I I clearly love this movie. I 688 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: think that just the animation and the feeling of it 689 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: of it's not sadness, it's just melancholy. It's just I 690 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: don't know, but it is hopeful. I would love if 691 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: anybody wrote in if you have seen it, or if 692 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: you watch it after this and it's your first time. 693 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: The boobies they come out of nowhere. 694 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah they do, they do. But thank you Samantha for 695 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: going on this traumatizing journey with amazing, amazing. I had 696 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: I had a joy. I was singing at the TV. 697 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: It was great. Uh well, listeners, you can send us 698 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: any of your thoughts. You can email us at Hello 699 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: at Steffanenever Told You dot com. 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