1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. It is Wednesday, February twenty 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: second in Hong Kong, Tuesday February twenty first in New 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: York and coming up today. US stocks sell off on 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: fears the FED isn't close to ending the tightening cycle. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Retail giants Walmart and Home Depot give gloomy profit forecasts 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: for the year ahead. Fears of a price war between 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: China's tech giants grows as Beijing wind's back it's crackdown 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: on the tech sector. Joe Biden and warsaws as Ukraine 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: will never fall and that Vladimir Putin has lost standing 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: in the world. Poutin backs away from arms control agreement, 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: reports that Shijianping plans to visit Moscow in coming months. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm at Baxter with Global News. That's all straight Ahead 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business news you need to 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: start your day in just one fifteen minute podcast available 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business app and everywhere you 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Dead Prisoner and I'm 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: Brian Curtis. Here are the stories we're following today. Traders 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: will be looking to Wednesday's FED minutes for clues on 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: the Central Bank's rate hiking path, Let's get that story 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. The surprise is gone now that 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: the presidents of the Cleveland and Saint Louis fedbanks have 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: said they saw a case for a half percentage point 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: increase at the February first meeting. If there were a 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: significant number of others who felt the same way, that 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: could influence views of the Fed's next move, given the 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: strong data we've seen since then. Moreover, at his post 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: meeting news conference, FED Chair j Powell teased a discussion 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: on the path forward for rates that we'd learn about 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: when the minutes were released. What might have been said 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: about how high rates will need to go, how fast, 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 1: and for how long. A lot of that will depend 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: on how FED officials felt about the prospects for inflation. 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Another discussion to watch in the minutes, Michael McKee, Bloomberg 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia. So onto the big retailers. We begin with Walmart. 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: The company reported sales and profit above expectations for the 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: last quarter. Shoppers appeared to flock to those stores during 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: the holiday season to take advantage of Walmart's low prices. 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Even so, the retail giant warned of tougher times ahead. 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: Walmart is now forecasting a second straight decline in annual profit. Here, 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: as the company's chief financial officer, John David Rainey, you're 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: seeing that our value proposition and certainly resonating with consumers 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: right now. But there's a lot of macro uncertainty again 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: as we look across the consumers across the globe, but 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: certainly here in the US, balance sheets are getting thinner. 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: You're seeing savings rates decline, and we really haven't been 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: in a position where we've seen the FED tighten at 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: this rate. And so as we look forward and give 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: guidance for the full year, we're adopting a cautious outlook 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that we're responsive to 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: whatever environment that we're going to find ourselves at. John 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: David Rainey, there, the CFO of Walmart. The news wasn't 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: a lot better for Home Depot, the home improvement retailers 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: now forecasting a profit decline for the full year. The 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: companies cited certainty tied to those higher interest rates now. 55 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: Home Depot said that could keep Americans from moving and 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: renovating their homes. Bryan Companies in China and around the 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: world have been warned that they will be punished by 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: the US if they keep doing business with Russia. That 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: story from Bloomberg's and Kates. The Treasury Department says the 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: cost of violating the Biden administration's sanctions against Moscow will 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: be steep, and that corporations and banks risk being cut 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: off from the US at its partner's financial systems. A 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: year after Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, the sanctions have had 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: a devastating impact on Russia's gas exports and imports of 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: high tech goods, but they have yet to seriously diminish 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Putin's ability to wage war. In Washington and Kate's Bloomberg 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia, the big tech firms in China appear to 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: be on the verge of a price war. We have 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that story from Bloomberg's Von Men. China's internet and e 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: commerce firms are beaving up efforts to outdo each other. 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Media reports suggested jad dot Com was planning a one 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: point five billion dollars subsidy campaign to compete against Ping 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Dual Door. Elsewhere, net Ees and miHoYo are upping their 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: battle against gaming leader ten Cent as competition rises, concerns 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: over margins grow, and equity investors have taken notice. JDM 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Pingdodo fell ten to eleven percent in New York and 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Ali Baba was down nearly five percent. The selling helped 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: push the NASDA Golden Dragon China Index down two point 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: nine percent in Hong Kong. I'm Ivan Mann Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Microsoft is promising that Call of Duty will not be 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: collateral damage as it tries to get approval for its 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: planned purchase of Activision Blizzard. The story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: Britain's anti trust watchdog has suggested Microsoft agree to divest 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: Call of Duty to deflect criticism that buying its owner 85 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Activision would stifle competition. But Call of Duty is one 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: of the most lucrative game franchises in the world, and 87 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: speaking after a European Union hearing, Microsoft president Brad Smith said, 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: no way. We don't see a viable path to sell 89 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: off the part of this company, Activision Blizzard that makes 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Call of Duty. Microsoft did manage to flying two more 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: opponents of the merger today. It cut deals sharing Call 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: of Duty with Nintendo and also in Vidia's chief force 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: in addition to the antitrust concerns in Europe. Here in 94 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: the US, the FTC has already sued to block microsoft 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: sixty nine billion dollars deal. Denise Pelligriny Bloomberg day Breakasia. 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis, along with Doug Krisner and Rashad Salamat 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: will join us in a few moments. Now it's time 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: for Global News. The US President Joe Biden marking the 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: one year anniversary of Russia's invasion in Ukraine by saying 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin will never find victory. Ed Baxter has 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Global News in the nine sixty news room. Ed. Yeah, 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly right, Brian Biden, in fact, saying, rather than 103 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: gating power and control, Putin's lost power and global standing, 104 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: President Putinsk front it was something today that you didn't 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: think was possible a year ago. The democracy of the world. 106 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I've grown stronger, not weaker, But the autocrat to the 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: world have grown weaker, not stronger. And a message to 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: NATO there should be no doubt our support. Free grain 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: will not waiver, NATO will not be divided, and we 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: will not tire. Now, Biden, aiming for the Russian people, 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: saying the US and Europe do not seek to destroy 112 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: or control Russia. But freedom. There is no sweeter word 113 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: than freedom. There's no nobler goal than freedom. There's no 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: higher aspiration than freedom, and that the US will not 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: allow a Russian victory in Ukraine. Bloomberg's Amory horndern in 116 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Warsaw says, a unifying message for NATO was followed a 117 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: message to the Polish people as well as these neighbor 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: neighboring countries around Ukraine was about this ironclad commitment to 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: Article five. This is something that would be very much 120 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: so welcomed by the Polish people. Yeah, and NATO countries 121 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: defending each other if under attack. Now, Earlier in the day, 122 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin pulled out participation in the nuclear agreement. He 123 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: threatened that there would be a response if the US 124 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: were to get long range missiles. We've seen throughout the 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: prior twelve months a little bit of hesitation from the West, 126 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: whether it was high Mars or another advance on a 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: military system. Now, Putin did say he would abide by 128 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: weapons limits, and the US is providing Ukraine long range 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: GPS guided bomb made by Boeing that is capable of 130 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: hitting targets forty five minutes away, and in the same 131 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: train of thought, China's President Hijunpeng is preparing to visit 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Moscow for a summit with Vladimir Putin and coming months. 133 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journals saying probably in late spring or early summer. 134 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: The story says that she will push for multi party 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: talks on peace in Ukraine and to reiterate what it 136 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: calls no nuclear weapons be used, and China's foreign ministers 137 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: urging the world to stop drawing parallels between Ukraine and Taiwan. 138 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: The statement urges countries to stop fueling the fire and 139 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: stop shifting blame to China and stop touting Ukraine today 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Taiwan tomorrow. In the US, the Supreme Court Justice is 141 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: expressing awareness about opening Internet companies to lawsuits coming from 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: harmful user posts. The issue is whether Section two thirty 143 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: would be weakened, potentially opening the floodgates two lawsuits. Global 144 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: News powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and 145 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: analysts and over one hundred and twenty countries. In San Francisco, 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Daybreakcasia, 147 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Brian Curtis and Rashad Salamat, and our guest is Schoo, 148 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: financial advisor and managing director at UBS. So the short 149 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: end of the yield curve back to the yearly highs 150 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: of four point seven two percent, the long end not 151 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: quite buying in yet to the idea that yields to 152 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: a race to the upside. The high there was four 153 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and a quarter and we're at three ninety five. But 154 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the stock market feels like it's cracking now do you 155 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: agree with that? Well, you know, we always thought that 156 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: the rally this year it's not as sustainable, um, because 157 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: inflation is not completely under control. Uh. I mean, it's 158 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: still far from the said target two percent. So the 159 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: latest UH data suggesting is too early to expect as 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: pivot from the said and raped may stay higher for longer. 161 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: So um, you know. And it was great that the 162 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: speed of the rally of the year was was very fast, 163 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: but it's probably going to slow down a bit until 164 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: we have inflation more under control. This is it isn't 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: as year, But I mean the point being, do we 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: have to now wait? Really full a semblance of perhaps 167 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: calm well could be the other way round, of course, 168 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: until the FIRMC minutes. Yes, I mean, I think it's 169 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: we're always invested. I mean we're not going to wait 170 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: any you know, connected on the sidelines, but you know, 171 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: until we have that or data, until inflation is more 172 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: under control. Uh, you know, we have our portfolio pretty 173 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: well that vertified um and and kind of just see 174 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: what will happen with inflation, if that's going to eventually 175 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: be eventually going to modoring. It would feel almost like 176 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: this is a great time for some equity investors in 177 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: that when interest rates are close to zero, you know, 178 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: everybody can get into business, and you know, you can 179 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: be a disruptor pretty easily because the cost of capital 180 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: is is nothing. Now it's much more difficult. So if 181 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: you're a company that has an entrenched position, is this 182 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: a good time? Yes, I mean, this is definitely a 183 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: good time to be very selective. And you're absolutely right 184 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: with you know, rates or at zero, anybody can get 185 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: into business. But uh, you know, and that's why we're 186 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: very very selective with equity opportunities um and, Uh, you know, 187 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: we still prefer defensive, value oriented stocks, but of course 188 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: there's always opportunities in in uh, you know, consumer stables 189 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: and healthcare still just a bigger trend for those those 190 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: type of sectors are good and in including very selective 191 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: technology stocks as well. Tell me here as well, you 192 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: know you under preferred to should say if you at 193 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: least prefer the financial technology. No, financials shortly should be 194 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: doing better than what they are, given that we have 195 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: at least now interest rates as opposed to zero and 196 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: tech because well we've got to beaten down so much 197 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: last year, right, Yeah, absolutely, I think our concern with 198 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: financials is the recession risks. I mean, of course a 199 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of people took that off the table, a lot 200 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: of investors. But if unemployment rate rises, earnings will take 201 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: a hit. And additionally, thanks apodit rates are rising, which 202 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: could criminate interest income growth. So we are careful on 203 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: financials and also still very careful on technology because you know, 204 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: if that is going to continue to raise rates, even 205 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: if it's at a slower pace, there's a greater potential 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: for a drag for growth sectors, and that includes technology 207 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: as well. What do you make of the price wars 208 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: now in Chinese technology companies, particularly internet and e commerce firms. 209 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: It seems like a new wrinkle that now all of 210 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: a sudden. We have to worry about their their margins. 211 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with regulation, right absolutely. UM, 212 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I think with China it's you know, the prize wars 213 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: are inevitable. I mean, it's going, it's going to happen. 214 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: But and but we're still very positive in China despite 215 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: the reason equity setback. We do feel like you know, 216 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: with the reason reopening in China. You know, we're very 217 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: preferred on emerging market equities. UH, specifically within Chinese equities, 218 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: we like direct beneficiaries of reopening and not include sectors 219 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: such as pharmaceuticals, medical equipment, and transportation. Um. Internet is good. 220 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: There is a prize war. Um, there's gonna be winners 221 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: and losers. So it's just you have to be I mean, 222 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: investors have to be very selective. You're going to get 223 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: into Internet. But we still for more of the direct 224 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: reopening beneficiaries and China is still our most preferred Asia 225 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: strategy right now. Tell me something though, you mean you 226 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: do with a lot of the high net worth individuals 227 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: in US, Hong Kong and China here as well, can 228 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: you tell me how that mood has changed in recent months, 229 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: especially since the reopening and number two, What is the 230 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: biggest the most common question they're asking you. Yes, I mean, 231 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: this is really a good question. I mean, I think 232 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: high net worth investors are definitely more optimistic this year. 233 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, last year was mostly every you know, a 234 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: lot more conservative, a lot of more cash management. Investors 235 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: are afraid to put cash awarp because they were just 236 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: so much uncertainty. But this year especially seen inflation, even 237 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: though it's still high, the moderate a bit, seeing that 238 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: the economy is still intact in China's reopening, that that 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: provided more certainty than before. So investors are more optimistic 240 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: in in putting a little bit more cash to work, 241 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: but still very very cautious because there's still a lot 242 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: of uncertainty out there. And in terms of you know, 243 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: just investors top question on their mind, it's still you know, 244 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: the lag effect of the ray heikes. You know, the 245 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: investors are very worried about if there's going to if 246 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: this is going to drag out, if a recession could 247 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: still happen. So I think, you know, there's that optimism, 248 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of caution as well. But overall, 249 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: there's more cash put to work this year than than 250 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: the day last year, we've burned off a lot of 251 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: the froth. I suppose in some of the equity markets. 252 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Interesting that the DAO is now negative for the year. 253 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: The Nasdaq is still up about ten percent. Do you 254 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: expect I mean, if you're looking now at say the 255 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: next six months or so, is the dividing line whether 256 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: or not we go into recession or not or what's 257 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: the main dividing line? Um. I think it's whether we 258 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: go into recession. And I think the biggest dividing line 259 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: it would be, you know, the said policy if said 260 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: is going to continue to high rates, because a lot 261 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: of the rally was driven this year because there's that 262 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: optimism that ray hikes are going to slow down or 263 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: it's going to stop, and but now you know, it's 264 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of reality hits that it didn't. Inflation still not 265 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: under control and said it is very likely and actually 266 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: stress the fact that they are going to hips are essential. 267 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: So there's I mean that greer potential draft for growth sectors. 268 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know that we have most of the concern. 269 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, Gasia, your morning brief on this 270 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: story is making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and 271 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Wall Street look for us on your podcast feed every day, 272 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 273 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 274 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: three zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine one and 275 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: wash Ington, Bloomberg one oh sixty one in Boston, and 276 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 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