1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Single best idea. You want to say good morning to you. 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: What an interesting day. It was sort of a snooze day. 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: You look at what we call the Bloomberg launch Pad, 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: which is this incredible compendium, almost like a spreadsheet, but 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: real and blinking red and green of equities, bonds, currencies, commodities, 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: and I honestly have to say today was a snooze fest. 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: It was one of the quietest days I've seen the 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: screen waiting for the CPI report tomorrow, and of course 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: that has an important impact on the market and frankly 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: global markets as well. So we had a lot of 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: time for conversation today. A bit different. James Travitis joined 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: the Navy, joined Annapolis back when it wasn't cool. It 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: was nineteen seventy five and the last thing anybody of 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: that age wanted to do was put on a uniform. 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: He put it on. He's written about it for years 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: with his esteemed naval career. This time not to look 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: future like twenty and thirty four, twenty and fifty four, 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: but I look back to World War Two. We talked 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: about his new book, The Restless Wave. Paul Sweeny's reading 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: it is on chapter four, but mostly what we talked 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: about was a restless wave in the eastern Mediterranean. James 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Travitas on the many fronts that Israel faces. 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: I think Israel is over extended. I'd say five fronts. 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: It's Hamas in the south, has Belaan, the north, obviously, 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: it is the Hoo theis to the far South. It's 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: also the militious in Syria. And it's Iran itself. I 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: can count that on the five fingers of my hand. 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: That's too many. Israel is only a nation of ten million, 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: seven million Jews. That's too few to ultimately fight wars 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: with countries like Iran news flash, which has a population 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: of ninety million. That's Aroun alone. So Israel needs friends. 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: And let's go back to paragraph one. How important that 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: relationship is for Israel and for the United States, between 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: the US and Israel. 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: Ed mustervedas on one of the wars of the moment, 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: joining us in our studios today from the United Kingdom. 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: Uvon steinas he's with Oliver Weyman is vice chair. He's 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: been looking at private credit, private debt. But I had 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: to go back to where he made his name. Which 41 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: was Morgan Stanley definitive undiversified Financials and Banks in Europe 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: years ago on UniCredit of Italy and Commerce Bank of Germany, 43 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: Hugh von steinas of Oliver Wyman on the small European 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: banks at the nightment. 45 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: If you look at the top twenty market caps of 46 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: banks globally, there's only two Europeans on HSBC, which is 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 4: effectively so it's not even European. So it's only one 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: and that's UBS and that's number twenty and so absolutely, 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: and so I think UBS, I think, with my old 50 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: boss column and Sergio, actually do have a chance to 51 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: be in the global super League. Everyone else is in 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: a kind of a European league or even a division below. 53 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: You know someone you know, well, Mario Dragy just put 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: out a report. Now it was probably a little bit 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: to more than fifteen pages, Tom, I mean he had 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty rex. I mean even one too. 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: You rolled it for no, no. 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: No, not this, not this time. But actually his finance 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: piece rade a lot of sense, which is we need 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: securitization markets to open, we need deeper capital markets, and 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: we need some some of the larger banks to merge 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: because scale matters in banking, and we have too few 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: banks with that scale. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: You've earn steinas of Oliver Wyman there on the banking 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: of UniCredit, Commerce Bank and maybe Continental Banking to come. 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: I should mention Lisa Abramo, it's his conversation yesterday with 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond. Looked for that in complete conversation talking a 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: little bit about European banking. And also Friday in JP 69 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: Morgan's earnings, it's the silly season to bond. What do 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: you do if you're a politician, You break open a beer? 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we're talking with Kaylie Lynes and she 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: was mentioning that Joe Matthew of Balance of Power can 73 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: break open a Narrogansett Lagger beer. Vice President Harris quaffing 74 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: a Miller High Life with Steve Colbert. We asked Wendy 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Schiller about these symbols of let's get basic. 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Well Clinton, Win's, McDonald's. You know, Barack Obama had to 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: find some food that was bad for him. They was 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: willing to eat on camera because we knew he didn't 79 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: do it otherwise. You know, this is part of I 80 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: can identify with you. I'll drink a beer too. I 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: think it's a stretch. I don't think that's the image 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: necessarily that's going to be a Kamala Harris elected. But 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I think each candidate and each campaign right now is 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: really like, what do we do to get this momentum 85 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: quickest path. 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: To the swing states the case of Jenny Cremaill. That's 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: all I can say. We say good morning to all 88 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: of you, really really interested getting into the silly season 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: of the election campaign. The leadership there from Joe Matthew 90 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: and Kayleie Lines on balance of power should mention Ann 91 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Marie Horden as well working at it every day as 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: well running YouTube. Subscribe to Bloomberg podcasts on radio across 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: this nation, your morning Commute on Android Auto, applecar play 94 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: on the Corridor from Washington to New York ninety two 95 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: nine FM and Boston, and of course on this podcast 96 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: on YouTube, podcast on Apple podcasts. This is single best idea.