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Speaker 1: All right it it's episode eleven of Sauce on the Side.

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Speaker 1: What's up. I'm Gandhi. I realized in the last episode

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Speaker 1: I didn't introduce myself for you. We just kind of

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Speaker 1: like rolled with it. Hello, Andrew, Hi God, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're not burning anyone just yet.

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Speaker 2: The better producers here. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh listen, both of your asses left me alone on

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Speaker 1: my last interview.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, this mic is a little too floppy.

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Speaker 1: It is a little a little wilted there. But we're

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Speaker 1: just starting this episode off, and I said, I realized

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Speaker 1: in the last one that I didn't ever introduce myself

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Speaker 1: or Diamond. So hi, I'm Gandhi, and now I have

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Speaker 1: both of my producers who I love so much, Andrew

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Speaker 1: and Diamond in here.

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Speaker 3: What's it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Hi, hey, cool?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love that. You're just whipping that

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Speaker 1: mic back and forth like it doesn't make a sound

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Speaker 1: when you do it.

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Speaker 3: Do it?

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Speaker 1: You see that? Sorry, it's called radio, Andrew, learn about it.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's called podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Learn about Are we using radio equipment?

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Speaker 2: This is technically could be both. It's a microphone and

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Speaker 2: oh wait.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, you have a whole podcasting company don't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: You should learn about how the equipment were.

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Speaker 2: Josh takes it all out and post and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he will here.

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Speaker 1: No, he can't because when you're talking and you move

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Speaker 1: a microphone around, you can't take that out and post

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Speaker 1: you turn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fixed it. He could fix It's a magician.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we had I had such a good time

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Speaker 1: talking to Ben and Noel from the Stuff They Don't

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Speaker 1: Want You to Know podcasts that it had to turn

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Speaker 1: into two episodes because we just kept going and going

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I think we should just get to it

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Speaker 1: because here comes the rest of that episode, part two.

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Speaker 5: So we're talking about body brokers, right and blood broke.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 5: So there is a there's a thing called the I

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Speaker 5: guess we here in the West we call it the

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Speaker 5: red market for organ donation because you can't you can't

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Speaker 5: make organs yet at scale in a way that will

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Speaker 5: work for people.

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Speaker 4: Those lists of being getting a legit donor are very long,

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Speaker 4: very hard to get into unless you know there are people.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and so there are as you, as you're probably aware,

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Speaker 5: we did some work on this crazy phenomenon where in

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Speaker 5: some a body broker and organ broker will go into

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Speaker 5: a rural environment somewhere in the world and they'll find

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Speaker 5: a community, often a grarian community that really needs money

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Speaker 5: or they're struggling.

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Speaker 4: With a distressed community exactly.

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Speaker 5: And then they will offer them a real, what is

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Speaker 5: you can go into these villages where people have had

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Speaker 5: it gets a tremendous markup and has sold somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying there are people that go into underserved,

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Speaker 1: underprivileged areas and just say, hey, you got a kidney

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Speaker 1: for me, and these people say, yeah, take my kidney.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And this is off books, right, this is black

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Speaker 4: market stuff we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And because it's a global phenomenon, it's tough to

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Speaker 5: as dumb as it sounds, the bureaucracy but devils. It's like,

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Speaker 5: which country's laws apply, Right, that's a good point. Where

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Speaker 5: is it legal to say, yeah, man, I'll just kid you.

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Speaker 4: You know, I.

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Speaker 5: Need a kidney. I've got fifteen hundred hot ones right now, right,

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Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm calling dollars hot.

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Speaker 4: Hot you met hot kids, that would makes way more sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you want to deal in bulk, right, I

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Speaker 5: see if you can get a price break. But it's

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Speaker 5: it's frightening. And then it ties into what we will

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Speaker 5: euphemistically call non consensual donations right.

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Speaker 1: About to say even I saw that movie.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh man.

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Speaker 4: Also, if we say we donate our bodies to science, right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you can say like I would like it for good,

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Speaker 5: in the early days of car crash testing, they used courses.

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Speaker 5: You could be one of those.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, you could be one of those body farms, yeah,

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Speaker 4: There were one crazy one where like a dude in

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Speaker 5: Like it's more like the traveling Bodies exhibitions.

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Speaker 4: That's those Chinese yea even weak or too or there

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, now I feel like it sounds like we're

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Speaker 1: Hey, if people are doing stuff, they're doing it is

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, we're like South Park. We're equal opportunity offenders.

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Speaker 5: There we go. Yeah, and it's and it's that kind

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Speaker 5: normal and alien exploration, but it's important and we try

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Speaker 5: of things. So it's not always the very depressing Holy shit,

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Speaker 5: this is true, and it's not always, uh, the very

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Speaker 5: only is Bigfoot reel, but that he is communicated with this.

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Speaker 4: Creature, like David Bakars are you talking.

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Speaker 5: About Yeah, it's very nice guy.

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Speaker 4: He has big Foot. Yeah, you see him in Blue Ridge, Georgia,

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Speaker 4: And it's really dude. It is on the level of

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Speaker 5: Bill Field investigations. He's got a he's got a.

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Speaker 4: Cruise animatronic Bigfoot that's the kind of talk and sing

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Speaker 1: Does you have a life partner?

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Speaker 5: He does, Okay, he does, he is. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 5: real it's a part of their marriage. And and this

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Speaker 5: And then the explanation he.

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Speaker 5: Space sat Yeah, in the space call in a lot

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Speaker 5: we can it's a lesson we can take to apply

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Speaker 5: to all kinds of discourse. So like when you are

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Speaker 5: being accused of being contrarian or something, that's a person

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Speaker 5: who feels incapable of actually exploring your questquestion with you, right, which.

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Speaker 4: I have no time for in my regular life. If

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Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to be a jerk, but like,

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Speaker 4: they're not open to being asked questions, then they're probably

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Speaker 4: not someone I want to hang out with a bunch,

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Speaker 4: you know, And we ask questions in respectful ways. We

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Speaker 4: So if someone is immediately going to shut that down,

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Speaker 5: But in defense of those folks who do react that

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Speaker 5: a We came from a place called when we started

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Speaker 5: how Stuff Works, which is all about you know, how

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Speaker 5: if you're in the crowd, today and you did that,

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Speaker 5: Thank you. But the like the the idea of just

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Speaker 5: the why game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Like okay, So for anybody who doesn't know what's

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Speaker 5: the why game?

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Speaker 1: Anything you do, a kid asks why, and even when

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Speaker 1: Why why are you wearing that hat?

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Speaker 4: I propose Ben though, that we have a new catchphrase.

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Speaker 4: It's where's the poop?

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Speaker 5: I like it, Where's the poop?

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Speaker 4: It's literally about ask the ask question.

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Speaker 1: So I know that we've we've been talking for a while.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, same guys. By the way, I'm really glad

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Speaker 1: that you're here with Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown. Of

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Speaker 1: But as long as there's a call to action and

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Speaker 1: you can start doing something about it, it's not so dark, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think the first part in doing any of

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Speaker 1: to other people. So even though it might feel dark,

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Speaker 1: I think you guys are still doing some really great stuff.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for that. Yeah, because that's we

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Speaker 5: want to empower people, right, But that's part of the

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Speaker 4: An episode a week that is entirely crowdsourced. For lack

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Speaker 4: of a better term, we have a listener mail episode

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Speaker 4: and some of our best ideas for episodes come from listeners.

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Speaker 1: Some of your worst come from men too.

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Speaker 4: Well, sure, we don't usually make those in episodes.

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Speaker 4: The blood thing. We didn't really know about this Arkansas

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Speaker 1: So my parents lived in Dallas for a while. Oh wow, Okay,

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Speaker 4: but we only assassinate the bad guys. I think that's

443
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Speaker 4: where the thing gets gets sticky.

444
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 1: Right, that guys to whom?

445
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that guy was to be clear who wrote

446
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 5: who wrote to us? You could argue maybe he was

447
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 5: trying to rationalize some things to himself. Possibly but dress.

448
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 4: I was encrypted or it was through one of those like.

449
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: That would make me think twice, Yeah, yeah, how like

450
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how much can I touch it?

451
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 5: I want to do with that guy. But but conspiracies

452
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 5: are you know, they come like folklore. They often come

453
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 5: from some grain of truth, and they're very popular in

454
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 5: the United States. It's one of the most popular forms

455
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 5: of folklore in this country. Because our country was founded

456
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 5: as a result of a conspiracy against well, I'm doing

457
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 5: a pivot against the United Kingdom, which is still you know,

458
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 5: a treasure trove of conspiracies, because the concept of monarchy,

459
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 5: if you had to explain it to an alien, is really.

460
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: Straight welfare case on the planet that we were talking about,

461
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: So it has no actually they have no power run.

462
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: The real estate.

463
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Speaker 1: Are there other Hollywood pop culture conspiracies that you guys

464
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Speaker 1: are really into.

465
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Speaker 5: Uh, there there are, Yeah, there are quite a few.

466
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Speaker 1: Uh.

467
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Speaker 4: The one we did recently about just the studio system

468
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 4: in the early the Golden era.

469
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the.

470
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: Way to hire private detectives to like, you know, get

471
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Speaker 4: dirt on their competition.

472
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 5: And because the student the studios got close to being

473
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 5: their own regional power, you know. And there was so

474
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 5: we know a lot of ugly hidden history of Hollywood

475
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Speaker 5: in terms of pop culture in the modern day. I

476
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: will make a prediction, uh here, and this is going

477
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 5: to develop pretty quickly.

478
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: It's already prediction.

479
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: Okay, there's going to be even more public interest in

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 5: some really nasty cover ups on Nickelodeon side.

481
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: Oh for sure that now, Yeah, it's going to just.

482
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 5: Get bigger, I think so. And it's because of the uh,

483
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: it's because of the horrific predatory actions of.

484
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: Really bad stuff, I mean.

485
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely with children.

486
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Speaker 5: And then I had that I had that dumb, like

487
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 5: stoner moment. I was researching stuff about.

488
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: This involve joints, but I was I like, had.

489
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: That moment where I can't remember there was a TV

490
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 5: on randomly in the background. I'm reading about this stuff.

491
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: It's like weird rerunting and I turn around and I

492
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 5: realized the Nickelodeon logo is afoot. It was like the

493
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: moment in you know, Usual Suspects where you're like, oh,

494
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: that was Kaiser so, and I thought it was here

495
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 5: the whole time. And I know it's very again, it's

496
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 5: a disturbing thing, but I'd love you guys opinion on it.

497
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's crazy to remember. We I

498
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: think within the kind of this conversation, we talked about

499
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: a lot of the weird grooming that took place with

500
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Speaker 4: young stars in terrible nineties. There was a club for

501
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: kids called the Soda Pop club. It was basically a

502
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: non alcoholic nightclub for like probably, I mean, that's the

503
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: exactly the location. Like Corey Feldman, Corey came. You know,

504
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: Corey Feldman has a lot of accusations about being molested

505
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 4: by high level executives, you know, And yeah, I think

506
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: that's just a continuations. What he's talking about is the

507
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: continuation of.

508
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: That a real conspiracy affecting everybody in your grocery stores

509
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 5: or markets today. Shrink Flation is real. I sound like

510
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 5: an old man shaking my fist at the sky. Like

511
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 5: col Co Cola used to be twelve ounce bottle, used.

512
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: To groups of raisins in my brand. I know.

513
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: I wish Scotty was here. Scotty's our producer who's typically

514
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: in that room.

515
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: He is.

516
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: He loves grocery stores. He's obsessed with them. He has

517
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: a podcast about cereal. You see all that serious stuff

518
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: in there. He is on one about shrink flation. He's like,

519
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: it used to be a six ounce box. Now it's

520
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: a two ounce box.

521
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: It's the same prime, it's smaller in the box. It's

522
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: it's more.

523
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 5: We got to hang out with this. I like his vibe.

524
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 5: Let's hang out with it around them well saw and.

525
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is awesome. Guys. I know I

526
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: could keep you here forever, so good thing.

527
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: We didn't schedule anything else for today.

528
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: Well, guys, if you're ever back in town, because I

529
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: had a whole list of things and I wanted to

530
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: ask you about and I didn't even get to like

531
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: of them. So next time you're in town, I would

532
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: love for you to come back and we could do

533
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: another episode.

534
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for hanging out

535
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 5: with us.

536
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in. This has been so fun.

537
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: And I wish we were all smoking a joint because

538
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: it would just keep going.

539
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, this conversation continues, we're going to have

540
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 5: to pick it up.

541
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, guys, thank you so much. It's been awesome. If

542
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: people want to listen to your podcast about all of

543
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: these amazing things, how can they find you.

544
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: You can find us wherever you find your favorite shows.

545
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 5: We are stuff they don't want you to know. You

546
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 5: can see us. Let's see Apple all this other stuff

547
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 5: we got the social media. Oh we had a video,

548
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: well yeah, yeah, we do it off air.

549
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 4: We'll do it off air, but we have this YouTube

550
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: channel where we post new video content every week. We've

551
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 4: got a really great team we work with and make

552
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: some fun kind of sketchy videos, sketchy sketchy comics, and

553
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: that is a conspiracy stuff and we are a conspiracy

554
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: stuff show on Instagram and TikTok. Ben and I also

555
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: do a show together called Ridiculous History that you can

556
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 4: also find anywhere you get podcasts, and we do two

557
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: of those a week, and we did five pieces of

558
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: stuff that I want to know content every week, and

559
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: then we.

560
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Speaker 5: Have we have a book called in a Burst of

561
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: Creativity stuff they don't want you to know, the.

562
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 4: Book, the movie, the experience.

563
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Speaker 5: Okay, lots of rooms awesome.

564
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: And if they want to find you on Instagram, I

565
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: know you just dropped the podcast info. Do you like

566
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: people to follow you personally?

567
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

568
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, how can they find you?

569
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 4: You can find me at how now, Noel Brown, I'm

570
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: pretty exclusively on Instagram. Ben's all over the place.

571
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 5: In another stunning burst of creativity, I am at Ben

572
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: Bullen on Instagram. Bow l, I n you can find

573
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: me on X somehow And that's I think right now.

574
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 5: Instagram is probably the main one. I'm on the cusp

575
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: of TikTok, but I'm not.

576
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: Sure yeah, I'm not there yet either. I watched stuff.

577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't post anything.

578
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm too old.

579
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, it's been awesome and I hope that

580
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: you come back again. This has been great. Thank you, Andrew.

581
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Speaker 1: I have to say I wish you would have been

582
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: in there for some of the stuff when we were

583
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: talking about blood and body donation, because that's right their alley.

584
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, that is. I gotta move the mic.

585
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Sorry again. Yeah, I one hundred percent am interested in that.

586
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's terrifying.

587
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: There's a whole part that we actually had to cut out.

588
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Did we already talk about this? I don't think we did,

589
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: so we you know, I record a lot of these

590
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: earlier than they are actually played for lots of reasons.

591
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: But when I recorded with Ben and Knowle, Diamond was

592
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: in there and one of the things that they were

593
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: talking about, they talked about two things that I cut out.

594
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: They talked about Kate Middleton, where Diamond, by the way,

595
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: clearly predicted exactly what happened. She said, I think there's

596
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: something tragically wrong. I think she's sick. Yes she did,

597
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: and that is what ended up happening. And then we

598
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: were all speculating about Diddy. Is he going to get

599
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: in trouble? Is anything gonna happen? Oh my gosh, I

600
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: wonder if if the cops are ever going to approach

601
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: him about all the things. And then bam, bam it happened.

602
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: So that was cut out a little behind the scenes

603
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: for you.

604
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Speaker 2: I love those.

605
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now we have two things we need to Yeah,

606
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: talk it to a microphone, Andrew.

607
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to move her out of the way.

608
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: My god. Anyway, So we have two things we have

609
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: to do. An entry of the burn book, which you're

610
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: going to submit today. Yeah, and then we'll do and

611
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: ask me anything. Okay, So who are you trying to burn?

612
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: What's making you mad? Andrew?

613
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: Okay? I think what bothers me is I offered to

614
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: buy you? Oh god, Josh, here we go and don't

615
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, me just because you're getting burned?

616
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Huh?

617
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: And Diamond all breakfast this morning?

618
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

619
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Speaker 5: Okay.

620
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: This was after you were left out of the breakfast order.

621
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: I felt bad, so I offered to buy you breakfast

622
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: instead of just saying thank you. I originally got ah,

623
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: thank you, and then it was what nefarious actions are

624
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: you hiding? Why when did it become like what wounded

625
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: birds are you that you can't just take a simple

626
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: gesture and say thank you and move on. Why does

627
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: it have to become a thing. Why is it manipulative

628
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: to try and buy you breakfast? I made a mistake.

629
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm offering to buy you breakfast. Just say thank you

630
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: and move on.

631
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. That's a great question, Andrew,

632
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: thank you for asking. No. No, you just asked. See

633
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: what happens when you burn people who are sitting right

634
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: next to you, is they have a chance to re butt?

635
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: But I don't need the butt because I gave you

636
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: ask what it is? No, No, there are no questions.

637
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: You literally just started sentences with sentences which.

638
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Josh, take it out.

639
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: You know I edit these.

640
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: Right, Gandhi take it out.

641
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Out anyway if you miss what happened. There was a

642
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: day where I texted Andrew and I said, people want breakfast,

643
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: and they were in crazy moods, and everybody wanted breakfast

644
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: now now now, so Andrew sent out the order and

645
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: then I shamefully went to pee and get myself some water.

646
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: And as I was doing that, everybody placed their orders

647
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: and the order was sent. Diamond didn't get in, I

648
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: didn't get in, Josh didn't get in. We were all

649
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: left out of the breakfast order. So this is where

650
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: it all came from. Then Andrews said, I'll buy you

651
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: guys breakfast. But this is what happened. You were very

652
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: sheepish and sad about it, and no one wants to

653
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: take advantage of that, which you know, which is one

654
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: of your manipulation tactics, and you get all sad and cue.

655
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Here we go sad and cue like.

656
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so Sally, I can listen to that.

657
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's bad. So what would you rather me

658
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: have done? Just said, f you, I don't want to

659
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: get you breakfast. I felt bad. I wanted to offer

660
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: to get breakfast. The only thing that's crazy here is

661
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: how everyone's acting. I don't know what mob dramas you're

662
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: all watching that. We got to be on high alert.

663
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: But let's pipe it down, let's calm it down. Let's

664
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: just regroup and when somebody offers, just say oh, thank

665
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: you or no thank you, just.

666
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: Saying the bass in your voice that you have right

667
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: now you did not have this morning. I apologized very meekly,

668
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: like oh, I'm so sorry. Guys, I love you so much.

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I'll buy you a breakfast. We're all like, no, that's

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00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: what happened.

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00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: So you're saying no because of what you inferred? Was

672
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: the tone of my voice there was that You took

673
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: that as oh he's acting sheepish. Oh that means I

674
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: have to I'm now feeling bad.

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, Diamond, you're making something.

676
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: You were making a mountain out of a molehill.

677
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Did I infer that tone or was the tone there?

678
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: I don't understand why we're even okay here, I don't

679
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: understand why we're even giving this man any mic time.

680
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Let's just move on. You think you're burning us, but

681
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: you're really getting burned. So now Andrew, for the what

682
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: second time is being burned?

683
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: And so our Gandhi, Josh and Diamond, you know.

684
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: What, Just for that, I feel like we should let

685
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: your burn stand. You're right, we got burned. You did

686
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: not get burned. Okay, Diamond, let's get to the ask

687
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: me anything. I'm ready for this one here.

688
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: Okay.

689
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, he can't take he can't take the heat.

690
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: So he's getting out the kitchen in here. Bye, we're

691
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna miss this sound.

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00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: Okay. This question is from Victoria McLachlan's seventeen Did you

693
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: meet Brandon?

694
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm at Brandon when I was in sixth

696
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: grade and he lived in my neighborhood. He lived in

697
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: the back of the neighborhood. I lived in the front

698
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: of the neighborhood, and we rode the bus together. Of course,

699
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: he's much older than me. However, I just like to

700
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: say that because it stresses about But on the bus

701
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: he was mean as fuck, and we used to fight

702
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: with each other all the time and pick on each

703
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: other all the time. And I will say it was

704
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: mutual combat. But we definitely weren't buddies. I mean, we

705
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: had the same friends. Obviously we lived in the same neighborhood.

706
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: He does not believe me when I say that. Well,

707
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: now fast forward to how we actually started dating. He

708
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: worked with a car company that does some really cool stuff.

709
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: They build like prototype vehicles that you see in auto

710
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: shows and in movies, and then he would travel with

711
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: these vehicles and show people what they were about and

712
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: how to use them whatever. So he came to New

713
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: York City for the audio show and posted a picture

714
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: outside the World Trade Center which is a few blocks

715
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: from where our old building used to be. And I

716
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: saw it and I thought it was cute, and I

717
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, really, like, you're right down the street

718
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: and you can't even say hi. We had kind of

719
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: kept in touch a little bit, you know, like throughout

720
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: the years, and he was like, Yeah, I'm in town.

721
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: Why don't you show me You're on the city And

722
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: I was headed to Singapore, but the timing worked out

723
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: where he was coming back to town when I came back,

724
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: so we went and hung out and we have been

725
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: dating ever since. That's so cute, ah, isn't it. And

726
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: it was just a couple of weeks after a guy

727
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: that I had been dating very casually went off to

728
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the Air Force and Brandon was kind of weird about it,

729
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: and he made me tell him that I was seeing

730
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: somebody new because he said, Brandon is a military vet,

731
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: and he said, there's a very good chance that this

732
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: person thinks that you guys might still have something going on,

733
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be He calls him Jody.

734
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: I guess Jody is a nickname for or the guy

735
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: that steals your girl when you're deployed. And he was

736
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna be a Jodie to somebody else,

737
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: so you have to talk to this person. And he

738
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: made me have a very weird conversation because that person

739
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I okay, cool.

740
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: So you wrote the Dear John letter.

741
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: I didn't.

742
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It ended up being a text message, yeah,

743
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: a long one, and I was like, so, I just

744
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: wanted you to know. And I'm pretty sure that that

745
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: guy to this day thinks that I was talking to

746
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: both of them at the same time, because it was

747
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: pretty close. But in my head, I had been done

748
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: with that because we knew that he was going away.

749
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: He was going to the Air Force, so I didn't

750
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: think that it was like a conversation that needed to

751
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: be had. But anyway, Brandon made me have it, and.

752
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: Here we are.

753
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: You're a terrible human beings.

754
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Shut the hell up. Shut the hell up. But funny

755
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: about that, well, I think it's funny. It was National

756
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Diary Day one day here and my mom had just

757
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: given me my diary from seventh grade. So this war

758
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: clearly was extended because the page that I opened it

759
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: up and flipped to was me talking shit about Brandon,

760
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: going off about him, how he was evil, how he

761
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: was mean. I said some mean stuff to him and

762
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: seventh grade me not much different than me. Now, oh god,

763
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: it's very pathetic, very pathetic. Brandon.

764
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that you had to deal with this

765
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: when you were younger, and the fact that you have

766
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: to deal with this now.

767
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Once again, I say, shut the hell up. And that's that.

768
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: So I think we have to wrap it up now.

769
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: That was great. The guys from the Stuff they Don't

770
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: want you to know podcasts Ben Bowleen Noel Brown, they're amazing.

771
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: Go listen to their podcast too. You can follow them

772
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Diamond I love you answer, thank god he left. Yeah,

773
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: that guy's trouble. People want to find you on Instagram?

774
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: How do they do it?

775
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: At Diamond Sincere and on Twitter? Twitter at Diamond Sincere

776
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 3: with an underscore.

777
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, she won't give up ack. She loves it over there.

778
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: It's drama filled it And if you want to follow

779
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: me at Baby Hot Sauce for now, that may be changing.

780
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll see you next time.

781
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: Let me lat say bye bye.

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00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: Six six