1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The Chiefs. Kingdom is excited. The twenty twenty six draft 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: class has been selected, and on this edition of Defending 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, we'll take a really good look at it. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: Of course, every episode of Defending the Kingdom brought to 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: you by Ticketmaster, your new best friends Homes in the 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Pocket will step up. You'll scrabble ten for bugs, diving 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: to stop chanceas sitting everyone on. Mitchell his voice of 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, along with senior team reporter. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're live right now. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: But Mitche, you do know we're getting a new set 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: in here. You've got about five or six things we've 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: got to do. I need you to do. 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: This is Defending the Kingdom. Bron Listen. I know you're 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: a VP, but people wait for this all around the world. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: The Kingdom deserves a new set at some point. Do 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: you understand what I'm saying? Are you getting defensive about this? 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: I am getting a little bit defensive about this. Actually, 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: the guys upstairs have been pretty defensive through this draft. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Which is kind of cool. Guys, let's chill out, all right. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: We had a great draft class. We'll knock this podcast out, 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: then we'll get out of here. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, hey to hype the new set at 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: some point. 24 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, there'll be a new set. It'll change your life, 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: maybe our lives will be changed in the Chief Kingdom. 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: How many times in conversation you hear are you getting 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: defensive about this? Maybe between our spouses? That's probably never happened, though, 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: La has it. She's never said, matare you getting defensive 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: about this? Never? No, not once? Okay, yeah, I think 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: it's just happened actually this morning with my beautiful wife. 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, a play on words, it's a phrase used 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: all the time, maybe around the world. I don't know 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: how it translates into other languages, but yeah, we're getting 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: defensive about it here with the Chiefs being skewed defensively 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: with the first four picks of the twenty twenty six draft. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: And it's a draft class that we're very excited about, 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: but some defensive emphasis with these first picks. 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: We have to technowledge that bit that we just did. Right, 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: bitch texting me late last night saying, hey, what do 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: you think about this? That was Rob Alberino. So Rob 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: is in charge of all of our production here at 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, all of our content, So all the amazing 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: stuff that we've been here. 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Is actually years president of content. 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: Rob is the captain of the ship. He's the absolute 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: best boss I've ever had. He's the mass The feature 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: him on today, and we are getting a new studio. 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: This is the last time we'll ever be in the 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: studio as it's currently constructed. Kind of crazy. 50 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Constructed in nineteen twenty six, and so this is it. 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Rob how many how many seas he got like a thousand, 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm close to it. Anyway, He's one of the more 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: creative human beings in the National Football League. He's a 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: phenomenal leader. And nothing happens at sixty five TPT, including 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: this podcast, if it's not for Rob Alberino. We just 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: thought we'd bring him in here to kind of bring 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: you to the play on words and how it does 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: come into all of our lives. But the Chiefs got 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: defensive about it, and it started with Mansorda Lane, the 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs trading up from nine to six. You and I 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: were at the power light with the big situation down 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: there with all the fans. It was fun, but we 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: got the word red lights were going off. Chiefs are 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: trading up. They're trading up and to get the number 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: one corner in the draft. I'm super excited about him, 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and this is a guy that can be an immediate 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: impact leader. Snap one, game one, play one. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been your guy since day one. We've talked 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: about that a lot now, where Mitch and I got 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: together in late February early March with our guy Austin 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Woodard who makes Mitch's binder, and we all talked about 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: the players that we liked. Very first player that Mitch 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: said was Monster Delaine and now he's a chief. We 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: talked about him a lot on our last podcast, which 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: was Draft Night, but we'll talk about him again. Thirteen 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: passes defense and two interceptions while allowing just fourteen catches 77 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: on three hundred and fifty seven coverage snaps last year 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: at LSU, zero touchdowns, allowed, zero penalties. Pro Football Focus 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: graded him as the second best coverage guy in the 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: FBS last year. Plenty of experience forty career starts, more 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: than twenty four hundred snaps in his career between Virginia 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Tech and LSU, and Ryan Nutt, who is our VP 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: of Player Personnel in the front office. He had his 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: press conference earlier this week where he talked about all 85 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: the picks. He spoke about Delane's coverage versatility. So he 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: can play pressman, offman zone, he can play on the slot, 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: he can play outside. He can do just about anything 88 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: at an elite level. You give a Stezepagnolo a player 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: like that, he's going to get really creative. Just the 90 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: best corner in this year's draft, and we got him. 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: He only allowed twenty six percent completion percentage when he 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: was targeted. The quarterback rating when he was targeted the 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: enemy quarterback had a twenty seven point five rating. If 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: you look at the marks, and you mentioned he's a 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: willing tackler. When I watched the video, why I fell 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: in love with him right away was I go, this 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: is a computer generated spags corner. Excellent on pressman. You 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: can see that it's instinctive with him. It's not like, oh, 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to play press man here, and it 100 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: was fun. In this interview, you're going to get in 101 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: a little bit that in talking to him about his 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: wrestling background. But there's a play in the videos that 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: we saw against Texas A and M where he comes 104 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: blitzing like a slot blitzer. It's going to be a 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: really well disguised scheme, but they're going to run a 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: bubble screen, which you know are all opponents run fifty 107 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: times during a game. He then tips the pass. He's 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: so fast and recognized that you know the plan I'm 109 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about. Ye, he tips the pass and his buddy 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: gets the interception, and the A and M guys are like, Wow, 111 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: what does happened here? That's the kind of thing you 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: get with minsour delaye. What else you get I think 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: is the fact that this is a polished young man 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just LSU, it wasn't one year of productivity. 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: He was there at Virginia Tech. I love the fact 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that he played one year with Jamari Connor at Virginia Tech. 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: And I talked with Jamara earlier this week about it. 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, the guy immediately was we saw could 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: ball and so I just think there's more here than 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: meets the eye or all these stats we could pour out, 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: because he kind of fits to me the feeling of 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: you've got a twenty twenty two kind of guy, Trent 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: mcduffish kind. 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Of guy, and you know, at that position you have 125 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: to be wildly confident, right But what Delaye has is 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: he has that confidence but also like a respectful, humble 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: nature about him. He combines them in such a way 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: where he has just a presence about him. And really, 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: as soon as he walked into the building and we 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: got to know him, you could tell this guy is 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: the guy. I understand why the front office fell in 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: love with him. You have all the obvious football stuff 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 2: and the physical traits and the athletic trades, but also 134 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: just the person. I mean, when you trade up into 135 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: the top six for a corner, you're drafting him to 136 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: be Patrick Startan, that's what you're expecting. You want them 137 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: to be. Derek Stingley and our front office believes he 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: can be that kind of player. And based on everything 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: that we've watched and studied and just our interactions with him, 140 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: I believe he can be that kind of guy as well. 141 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: Who he reminds me of. It's been several years back, 142 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: but the one on one when we did it in 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: person virtually, Tammy and I got to host Stefan Gilmore 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: and he was a Defensive Player of the Year that year, 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: and he reminds me and looking at his body type, 146 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: his skill set, and I'm trying to give him a 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: huge compliment here because gilmore all pro player, and so 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of things to like about Mansor 149 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Delaine and Matt and I had a chance to catch 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: up with him and meet the best corner in the 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: draft who's now a Kansas City Chief. Exciting times for sure. 152 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: We get a chance now to really introduce you to 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: our new cornerback taken with the sixth pick in the 154 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth draft, montsour Delaine. You're feeling about being 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: here when you got the call saying you're going to 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: be a Kansas City Chief? What was your reaction and thoughts? Sure? 157 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: Really was just I was in awe, not because of 158 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, when I got picked, but just you know where, 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: you know, just the people. 160 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: You know. 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: I always knew I was going to come to come 162 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: in being in just the environment, the culture. It just 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: was nothing better I could ask for it. So I 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: just was emotional when it happened, and it was a blessing. 165 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: What's today been like going through the whole car wash, 166 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: meeting all the people, shaking a lot of hands. What's 167 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: it been like for you? 168 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: It's been great? 169 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: Like I said, I really think it's the people that 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: make this place, and and I'm learning that quick. And 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: then really, you know, just getting around the guys and 172 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: just trying to you know, you know, building with everybody. 173 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Matt will tell you, we've already told you that I 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: was loved your tape. Can we get this guy? Can 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: we get this guy? This was back in March, right yeah. Uh, 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: but the way your game has evolved, You've been steady, 177 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: but man at ly sh it's like you went to 178 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: another level. Uh, what happened? And how's this work for you? To? 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: You've gained so much skill, uh in what you're doing. 180 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: You became the top corner in this draft for sure. 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: I'll just say it was about, you know, always improving. 182 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: You know, this year, I just want to be very 183 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: intentional and be consistent. That was the biggest thing. 184 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: For me this year. I always had the tools, and 185 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: the guy gets the ability. I just had to put 186 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: all together. 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: So I made it a specific point of emphasis off 188 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: season to refine my game and you know, just take 189 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: care of my body off the field and develop these 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: routines that became habits to allow me to become the player. 191 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: I am today. 192 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Zero touchdowns allowed, zero penalties, people stopped throwing at you. 193 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: You don't have like ten targets all year. How do 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: you stay in the game and people just start throwing 195 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: at you anymore? 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: So you know, that's what makes great players great. You know, 197 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: what are you doing when the balls away from you? 198 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: You know that was the air improvement and I'm trying 199 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: to even improve on because you know, it does get boring. 200 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes food just go away from you. 201 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: But you just so you have to be able to 202 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: just play to the standard of the game regardless. 203 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, if the play is coming away. Twenty seven 204 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: passes broke it up, eight touchdowns, seven tackles for losses. 205 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: But what gets me is the one hundred and ninety 206 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: one tackles you want to tackle? How did that get developed? 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: And that fits right in with what Spags us to do. Yeah, 208 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: I love to tackle, to be honest. 209 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: If I could play middle linebacker, I would play, you know, 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: but luckily I am I'm not the I'm not two 211 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: hundred and something pounds, so I gotta go play corner. 212 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: But just you know, coming in with SPAGS defense, just 213 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: I think it will fit me great, even being able 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: to move inside whatever I have to do. You know, 215 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to be with the Fingals, run, fits, blitz, 216 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, guard tight ends, whatever it takes. So just 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: I love the physical aspect of the game, and you know, 218 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: I think it's a great fit for me here. 219 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: What did you know about the Chiefs before you came here? 220 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Y'all? Win? 221 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: You know, I know exactly you have the offense that 222 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: speaks for yourself and then you know, just spags defense, 223 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: you know, the mastermind. So I just I just think 224 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: it was it was a great fit. And obviously the 225 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: fan base, you know, yeah, you know how passionate everyone is. 226 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, I know all about it. You just walk 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: by a trophy case with four Lombardes and then you 228 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: walk by Emma Thomas, who's in the Pro Football Hall 229 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: of Fame, who played your position. What does that mean 230 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: to you when you immediately just like walk into that 231 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that is it's a reality. 232 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: It's it's not just something that that's talked about and 233 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: you know, something that's far fetched, something that's very you know, 234 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: realistic that you know, we just keep putting our heads 235 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: down and doing we have to do, not doing too much, 236 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: but just be the player that you are supposed to be. 237 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: And then you know, We'll bring many more of those trophies. 238 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: That's the plan. You have a chance to go over 239 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: to the stadium. 240 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Yet, I haven't, you know. 241 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: They said like construction, So there's the world copd. Well, 242 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: hopefully you get over there soon. I'm sure you've watched 243 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: some Chiefs games on TV, though, How excited are you 244 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: to get in that stadium to feel that crowd. You've 245 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: played some big games at LSU, but some big games 246 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: here too. 247 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: No, for sure. You know, I just think that crowd 248 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: brings the energy. And then you know, I think a 249 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: lot of people, you know, fear that fear that that energy. 250 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: So you know, we look to use that to our advantage. 251 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: Especially we were on the defense side of the ball, 252 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: so you know, get those offenses rattled, and you know, 253 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. 254 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: You're going to love it. 255 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: We sure. Another thing that jumped off the tape was 256 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: how good you are at man press? Did you wrestle 257 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: in high school? I did wrestle. How much did that 258 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: help you with man to man defense on the edge? 259 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: You got to stay attached to that hip, you know, 260 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: you know that was that was something we kind of 261 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: you know, did all in wrestling, just you know, being 262 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: able to do different type of angles and you know, 263 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: whatever it took to get the job done. You know, 264 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: that's kind of a little similar to you know, man coverage. 265 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: You just have to do whatever it takes the win. 266 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: You want to want to match up. 267 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: You know, Spags loves to blitz his corners too, right, 268 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: you like blitzing. 269 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: I love blitzing, like I said, you know, if I 270 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: could play lineback, I would, So I'm just even playing 271 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Coach Baker's defense. 272 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: He loved blitzening the corners as well. 273 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: So we just played a lot of multiple defenses and 274 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: you know, different scheme versutile. 275 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's very similar to this defense. It 276 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: is awesome to have you here. Yes, I'm glad to 277 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: be here. Uh what's the first thing? I mean, you're 278 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: you're thinking when you start we go to rookie minute camp. Uh, 279 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: what's the first thing you want to do? Sure? 280 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I gotta wait till everybody gets back healthy. 281 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: But I think I want to pick off Pat, you know, 282 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: like you know, I just want to set the tone. 283 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: You know, I don't, like I said, I respect everybody, 284 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 4: but you know, I want to make my mark quick too, 285 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: So I just you know, I like to take take 286 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: the head off the big. 287 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: Dog, get some bragging, right Yeah, yeah, So I look 288 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: forward to that. 289 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: And that tells you all you need to know about 290 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: your new cornerback and the chiefs Kingdom Monsour de Lane. 291 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: So again, very excited to have Mansor Delaine in this 292 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: building and to see what he can do. So again, 293 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: a guy that can be a future leader for this 294 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: defense for years to come. Yeah. 295 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're really kind of remaking our secondary right now, 296 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: and we're excited about the guys that we're already here, 297 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: Really excited about Noel Williams. I think Christian Fulton showed 298 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: us some things at the end of last year, but 299 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: you want to keep throwing numbers at this thing, and 300 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: adding monster Delaine is a great place to start. 301 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think it helps everybody else here when you 302 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: look at a Jaden Hicks and you look at a 303 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Chamari Connor. We mentioned him, you know, Christian Roland Wallace 304 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: to get to get players were elevated. We got another 305 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: one coming here that we're going to talk about. But 306 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it helps kind of everybody, like raises the water level 307 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: of that entire dB room, which has been transformed a 308 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: little bit here and so fun to watch it. Now, 309 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: we also know that defense has to work at all 310 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: three levels, and that's where the Chiefs went with twenty 311 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: nine staying in the first round and a second first 312 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: round pick that went to Peter Woods. If you were 313 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: if you came, if it was the twenty five draft 314 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: and you were looking at inside interior defensive lineman, Peter 315 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: Woods would probably have been a top ten pick. Yeah. 316 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: So, actually, if you look back at this year's draft, 317 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: and we already see it now, there's the like way 318 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: too early mock drafts and big boards. 319 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: And all that. 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, if you rewind the clock to only like August. 321 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: So before the college football season began, numerous people, whether 322 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: it be like CBS Sports or Micro Renner at CBS 323 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: Sports or Jordan Reied at ESPN, they had Peter Woods 324 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: as their number one player in this year's class. Now, 325 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: it was kind of a weird season for Clemson. Clemson 326 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: had a lot of really players on their team and 327 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: collectively they just did not have a great year. But 328 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: Peter Woods in a vacuum. You look at some of 329 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: his tape, like he flashed, and you could see why 330 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: he was talked about as a potential like number one 331 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: overall pick. He's incredibly athletic and versatile for his size 332 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: and position, so he can play all over the defensive line. 333 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: You can put him over the nose, you can play 334 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: him out on the edge, which he played actually on 335 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: the edge a lot in twenty twenty four and I 336 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: didn't look out of place. A great first step quickness, 337 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: extremely explosive. Explosive is the word we're going to use 338 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: a lot today because this whole class is explosive. But 339 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: Peter Woods certainly is. He recorded a one six seven 340 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: ten yard split at his pro day. That indicates like 341 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: an elite explosive athlete, especially for his size. So again, 342 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean think about this defensive tackle room had to 343 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: get better. We talked about that over the last several months, 344 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: like that's one of the areas I think we were 345 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: deficient last year. Chris Jones is a future Hall of Famer, 346 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: but what else do we have around him? Well, Omar 347 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: Norman Lott was off to a great start before he 348 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: got hurt, and to have him back, so that's two guys. 349 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: You had Kiris Tonga who were fired up about and 350 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: now Peter Woods. That's a pretty good group now that's 351 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: a deep group, an athletic group, and a versatile group 352 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: that I'm pretty excited about. 353 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: Speaking about a room being transformed. No room has been 354 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: transformed from the end of last season untill now, and 355 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: we're sitting at the end of April. Then the defensive 356 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 1: line room and so the guys that you just mentioned 357 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: a great rotation, but you want those guys also to 358 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: have different skill sets based on you don't want replication 359 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: in there. So Peter Woods and I mentioned this earlier 360 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: in evaluating him. With the defense that spags runs and 361 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: there are one gap penetrators to get up the field. 362 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: That is Peter Woods. He can be a one gap 363 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: penetrator and as coach Reid said in his news conference 364 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: about Peter's that's the fastest way to get to the 365 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: quarterback to disrupt these quick passing games. But Peter's also 366 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: a willing two gap defender and if he's called upon 367 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to do that, and you could see this on his 368 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: tape that he will do that if ask. And there's 369 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: times a guy like this isn't just it's not just 370 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: the best to get up the field as fast as 371 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: you can because the offense will use that against you. 372 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: The other thing that's very apparent on the video when 373 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: you review Peter Woods at Clemson was the twists and 374 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: stunts the games. They call it. It's t t or 375 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: te stunts and we watch it all the time in 376 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the NFL and watching a camp and watch the players 377 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: work on it, and some guys have to really kind 378 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: of work at it and grind it. It's like picking basketball. 379 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: It's like defending a screen or setting a screen. Peter 380 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Woods is a natural at this. Whether he's the screen setter, 381 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: he's the pick guy to allow somebody to go free, 382 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: which isn't a lot of fun because the guy going free, 383 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll get the satya or to be the guy that's 384 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: going to be freed up. And you mentioned explosiveness. There's 385 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: just an instinct with him about it that gets real 386 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: exciting to see what he can do with the Chris 387 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: Jones inside or maybe you move Chris outside to use 388 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: that wingspan there. It's just this does just allow Chris 389 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: some freedom. 390 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: And it gets back to the athleticism. The players that 391 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: are able to succeed on those games are players that 392 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: are athletic and can move laterally. They can move backwards 393 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: with ease. A lot of defensive tackles aren't the most 394 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: athletic people. Well, Peter Woods is. He's a super athlete, 395 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: especially for his size. And he even played some offense 396 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: at Clemson, which I think coach Reid could have a 397 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: lot of fun with. I think it was like fourteen 398 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: or fifteen offensive snaps at Clemson and he scored two touchdowns. 399 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: Usually in there as like a full back or a 400 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: running back. But I'm just thinking about don Terry Poe again. 401 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Now Peter Woods, hungary pig has passed and remember those days. 402 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of a Colin Saunders. Yeah, sure, 403 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: remember a great athlete. Colin Saunders was who had one 404 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: of the sneakier plays in Super Bowl fifty seven in 405 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: a sack against the Eagles that he got credited for 406 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs needed to stop and people forget that 407 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: play that led to a chief victory in that win 408 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: over the Eagles. But Peter Woods has a lot to 409 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: bring to this defense and if he looks like the 410 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: Peter Woods are twenty twenty four, look out, he could 411 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: be a candidate, if not delayed, to be defensive Rookie 412 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: of the Year in the National Football League. We had 413 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: a chance also to catch up with Peter Woods. Of 414 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: all you look at the Chief's history of the great 415 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: inside defenders Pro Football Hall of famers, Buck Buchan and 416 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: Curly Cope and others might have the next one here 417 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: with Peter Woods, Chief's first round pick in the twenty 418 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: ninth pick from Clemson. Awesome to have you in the Kingdom. 419 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: What was the reaction when you got the call? Man? 420 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 5: It was crazy, a feeling like no other. I actually 421 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: looked down on my phone and I've seen spammers, so 422 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: I really had no idea who, like, who was calling what. 423 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Was going on? 424 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: I thought, maybe, you know, you see little print calls 425 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: all the time and stuff like that, And obviously I answered, 426 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: and you know, they just passed the phone down all 427 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: the way from the GM all the way down to 428 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: Coach Color and just telling me how excited they wear. 429 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 5: Of course, I had all my family, all my loved 430 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 5: ones around me, and they were super excited. So it 431 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 5: was just a great moment. 432 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, we're super excited that you're here. What do you 433 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: know about the Chiefs? What do you know about Chiefs Kingdom. 434 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 5: I'll do a lot of winning. I do a lot 435 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 5: of winning out here, and you know something that I'm 436 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: very used to. So I feel like and then new 437 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 5: we're going out here, right. Your tape is awesome and 438 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: to see what you do. 439 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you about because people talk about 440 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: a one gap player or two gap player, you seem 441 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: to do it all. What about how you've developed your 442 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: game and whether you're asked to be one gap get 443 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: up the field or play two games. 444 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: Uh? 445 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I can do both at a 446 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 5: very elite level. I think that you know, I'm a 447 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: defensive linement. I can play the one through the file 448 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: technique and I can play one or two gaps. I 449 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: think at the end of the day, it's just kicking 450 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 5: a man tell and you can work at half a man, 451 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And if you're beating up 452 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: on a guy, can't no matter if be playing one 453 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: or two gaps in my opinion, So you know, just 454 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: going out there and just having the mindset of just 455 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: knowing that I can do everything at. 456 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: The leade level. 457 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: So you said something really cool in your press conference. 458 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: He said that if we asked you to list all 459 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: the things you had to get better at, it'd be 460 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: the things that we think you're great at Where's that 461 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: attitude come from? Uh? 462 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: Just always trying to be a guy on the rise. 463 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 5: Always just trying to find different things to get better. 464 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 5: When I feel like I don't have anything to get 465 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: better at, I probably won't be playing a. 466 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Game, you know what I'm saying. 467 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: And so I'm just always trying to be on the 468 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 5: rise and try to find a way to elevate my game. 469 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: I think coach Collen will like that. 470 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But to play next to Chris Jones, a guy 471 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: who's probably head of the Pro Football Hall of Fame too, 472 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: What's what do you what do you anticipate about that? 473 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun, man, 474 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: it's gonna be crazy. Definitely gonna learn a lot, but 475 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: but definitely you know, I'm gonna bring something to the 476 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: table that's going to allow him to him to free 477 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 5: up and I can't imagine it's gonna happen the same 478 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 5: way for me. And then you know a lot of 479 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: other great guys in that room as well. Norman Lott 480 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: just signed on Tonga. H some guys that you know 481 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: that I've been talking about with the coach and stuff 482 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: that that that are going to bring a lot of 483 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: value to that room. 484 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: So I'm just super excited to just be a part 485 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: of the Faul. 486 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Did you grow up watching Chris Jones at all and 487 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: kind of mirroring your game after him at all? 488 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: I think that we were kind of like different players. 489 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: But but if you if you look at it, you know, 490 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 5: and our tapes and our differences, I feel like we're 491 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: very complimentary of each other, the different things that we 492 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: can do. 493 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Now where it gets fun, it's Clemson used you at 494 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the goal line a little office, a little office. Oh yeah, football. 495 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: Now there's some history here, Dontari Poe with coach Uh, 496 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: let's get creative here. What about those chances that Clemson 497 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: gave you and even two touchdowns? Yeah, man, I'm grateful 498 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: for man. 499 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 5: And I was just joking with Coach Read earlier about 500 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 5: the possibility of that happened in here. You know, I 501 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: had to stick my little joke in and see what 502 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: happens with it. But uh, hey, athletes, athletes make plays 503 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball, So that that's what 504 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: I did. 505 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Love it. 506 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: So the Clemson crowd gets pretty into it. One of 507 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the latter stadiums in college football. We have the same 508 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: thing here in Kansas City. How excited are you to 509 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: get out there in front of the fans. 510 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard that Kansas City has some of the 511 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: best fans in the whole entire world, you know, in 512 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 5: the whole history of the sport. So you know, I'm 513 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 5: just super excited to be able to interact with them 514 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: and allowed them to get to know me. 515 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: So in the NFL, you kind of your draft class 516 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: becomes like a subset group of brothers. To be in 517 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: the first round with mont Sword de Layne. What does 518 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: that mean to you of what kind of walking in 519 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: the door of the NFL with him? Uh? 520 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean as soon as we got off the 521 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 5: plane today, man, we immediately hit it off. Man, it's 522 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: been a special We had conversations together, like, hey, like 523 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: we work hand at hand. You know, a dB, I'm 524 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: a defensive line'mnna get you interceptions. You gonna give me sex, 525 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We you know, pro bowls, 526 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: all pros, you know, that's what we're looking to help 527 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: each other accomplish. So, you know, I'm super grateful that 528 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 5: you know, he's here, you know, because he made me 529 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 5: look good, you know. 530 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm excited now both of you guys are gonna have 531 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: a chance to play for Steve Spagnolo. We think Spags 532 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: is the best defensive coordinator in NFL history. He has 533 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: four rings to prove that. What have your conversation has 534 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: been like with Spags so far? 535 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 5: Uh? You know, they've just been just talking about, you know, 536 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 5: the type of person that that should be in the 537 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 5: locker room, and you know, how to address my teammates, 538 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 5: and just just talking about how to get better, you know, 539 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: being a guy on the rise, getting me in and 540 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 5: getting me acclimated obviously, me and my teammates and stuff, 541 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 5: and you know what to expect, you know, coming up 542 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: for Ricky Manning camera stuff. 543 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Peter, how did you get eleven? It's a defensive lineman? 544 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: What's up? 545 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: Story? 546 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: Just look good? It looked good. But eleven to me, 547 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 5: it means one of one. It's just like this means uniqueness. 548 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 5: It's something I've kind of had since the beginning of 549 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: high school and so it's just a number that really 550 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 5: does mean a lot to me. 551 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: This has been like a whirlwind for you. If you 552 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: had a chance to sleep at all the last twenty 553 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: four hours. 554 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: Nah, Actually I slept pretty good last night. Okay, I 555 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 5: slept pretty good last night, got me and got in 556 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 5: my flight. But as far as be in a row win, yeah, 557 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 5: it's been a row win, but it's starting to I'm 558 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 5: starting to settle in now. 559 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm home now, feel at 560 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: home good exactly. 561 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: So that's that's what we're doing with it. When you 562 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: walk these hallways, you walk by four Lombardi trophies, Uh, 563 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: what about putting up a fifth? That? 564 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: That was my immediate thought when I when I got picked, 565 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: I was like, we about to go win a super Bowl, 566 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: you know, saying why not? So I'm just super excited 567 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 5: for the opportunity to just compete and play with the 568 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: team you know who lasts so much success a year. 569 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: After you, after you. So it's a two way excitement 570 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: to get Peter Woods to join this defense and join 571 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom. Yeah. So this Defending the Kingdom episode 572 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: is called getting defensive about it. And these first four 573 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: picks for defense, defense, defense, Defense, you've seen the first 574 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: two that were fired up about the next two are 575 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: really interesting. Yeah. 576 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: So our Mason Thomas with our next pick and kind 577 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: of unique, kind of a different player that we've gone 578 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: after here at Edge. 579 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: Well, can I can I go through some of the 580 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: numbers that you're gonna get in They for it six 581 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: three two forty out of Fort Lauderdale, Florida with an 582 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: arm of thirty two inches. Who am I talking. 583 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: About talking about? 584 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: Uh? 585 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Nick Panto, He's from LA models his game after. When 586 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: you take Nick Benito today, it's the. 587 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: It's the exact measurements. Now Benito a little faster, but 588 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: it is the exact the same height, basically close, same size. 589 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Benito smaller, but we know how he's tormented us in 590 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: the past. And R. Mason Thomas two thirty eight to 591 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: two forty two right in there. But they're both from 592 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: for Lauderdale, different high schools, but this is a Nick 593 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Benito clone. 594 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: So in his presser on Zoom after he got drafted, 595 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: he was asked to he models his game after, and 596 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: he said Nick Benito, And I'm like, sign me up 597 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: for that. If we can get three quarters of Nick Benito, 598 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: I'll be thrilled. But you know, his whole weight situation 599 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: is a little bit different than what we've had before. 600 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: And we've seen a lot of players like Nick Benito 601 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: kind of take over the league. Look at a Nolan 602 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Smith in Philadelphia, like a lot of these lighter edge 603 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: rushers who were in that two thirty five to two 604 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: fifty five range. The Chiefs normally at edge rusher are 605 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: like two sixty plus, like two sixty two sixty five 606 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: to seventy players that are gonna play inside at times, 607 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: that can play the run really well. Our Mason Thomas 608 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: is two forty one. He does have sneaky power. So 609 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: even though he's only two hundred and forty one pounds, 610 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: talk to any of the chiefs front office people, they'll 611 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: say he has sneaky power, but he is explosive and 612 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: he has big time speed. Let's go over the numbers. 613 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: I mean they're really impressive. Twenty two tackles for loss, 614 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: fifteen and a half sacks, and four forced fumbles over 615 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: his last twenty three games, averaging three pressures per game 616 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: in that time. He posted a pass rush win rate 617 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: of thirty five percent last year. I mean, that's just silly. 618 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: It was ninth best in the FBS. And what I 619 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: love about him, I've talked about this before, is some 620 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: edge rushers have like this never quit mentality where it 621 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if their initial rush doesn't lead to a 622 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: sack or a TfL or whatever. Like they're a football player, 623 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: going after the ball doesn't always happen some edge rushers, 624 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: if they're Carl Loftis is exhibit A one hundred percent. 625 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: Like some edge rushers, if their rush doesn't work, they're 626 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: out of the play. They're done. Not these guys, Not 627 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: Carl Loftis and not our Mason Thomas. Because ar Mason 628 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: Thomas has some awesome film where let's say it's a 629 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: draw or a quick screen, he loops all the way 630 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: around and runs thirty yards downfield and makes the play. 631 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: You don't see defensive ends doing that very often, So 632 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: I love that part of his game. But we had 633 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: to get more explosive off the edge. We just were 634 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: not very explosive off the edge last year, while some 635 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: other teams in our division are, and I think our 636 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: Mason Thomas is a great addition to make us more 637 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: explosive in that area. 638 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: He waited for his chance to play at OU, did 639 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: not transfer, stayed there the first two years, he had 640 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: no starts, but the last two years and you mentioned 641 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the mark, but he really put two years together back 642 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: to back and then when you look at the quarterback 643 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: hits and hurries, he was up near the top of 644 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: FBS and in twenty twenty four at eleven. And then 645 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: there's explosive plays, a scoop and score against LSU. Just 646 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: try to find that one that's a big time play. 647 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah against LSU. So a couple of LSU guys 648 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: in his class here that they'll probably discuss this week 649 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: at Brookie Mini camp. It is different and probably not 650 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: a three down player, but it's where the league is going. 651 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: You have to get quick pressures and it has to 652 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: be I mentioned Nick Benito all the time because within 653 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: a second and a half he's going to do something. 654 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: If he's not getting a sack, he's disrupting the play 655 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: or affecting the physics of the throw. That's what the 656 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs have gotten here. I believe in ar Mason Thomas. 657 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: And you never know because I mean it wasn't too 658 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: long ago that we were studying Nick Benito when he 659 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: came out of Oklahoma, and the rap on him was 660 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: he's not a three down player. He's a designated pass rusher. 661 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: Only you never know what these guys they can grow 662 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: into this but for this year, I don't necessarily need 663 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: him to be a three down player. We need an 664 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: explosive pass rusher on third down. That's what we need, 665 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: and I think he can be that right away for sure. 666 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: And the Chiefs kept defensive, getting defensive about it with 667 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: their next pick. And Jaden Kennedy had his last year 668 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: at Oregon, but he moved around now. He started at 669 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Tulane and played for the Green Way for two years. 670 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: Then he went to Ole Miss for two years, but 671 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: then his dB coach at Tulane went to Oregon and 672 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: so he followed his dB coach and went to the Ducks. 673 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Really interesting story. People say, well, he's a smaller kind 674 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: of guy. This dude is fearless. When you watch him, 675 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: this guy is fearless and when he'll make his mark 676 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: as well. Willing tackler, which you have to be in 677 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Spags's system. One hundred and fifty four total tackles in 678 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: his three different schools that he played at. But then 679 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: you look at the passes broken up, especially in his 680 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: last year to Old Miss when he had twelve passes 681 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: broken up. There thought to be a slot nickelback, not 682 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: necessarily on tape. You see a lot of press coverage. 683 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: You see some slot off coverage or even shifting to safety, 684 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: but he's got some ballhawk in him. And the fact 685 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: that again the fearless nature and some instinctive traits here 686 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: of recognizing plays. So why did he fall to the 687 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs at this spot? The fact that you know, he 688 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: maybe looks like an Armeson Thomas, a situational kind of player, 689 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: but a potentially really good player. 690 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Yeah, versatile, as you mentioned, can play either safety spot, 691 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: can play slot corner. I think slot corner is probably 692 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: where he fits in the most. Here, we're creating a 693 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: lot of competition at slot corner with Cater Kohu and 694 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: now with Kennedy, and I like that. I think it's 695 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: a good thing because if you look at opposing offenses, 696 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: the best receiver often is now in the slot. It's 697 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: different than maybe it used to be. And as we 698 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: kind of remake our defensive back room, we've got to 699 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: have more competition at the slot corner position because I 700 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: think in the past it might have been like an afterthought, 701 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: like ten years ago, like a slot corner. Well now 702 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: it's one of the most important players on the field. 703 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: So creating that competition is a good thing some fun 704 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: numbers with him. So he allowed just seventeen catches for 705 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and four yards on three hundred and forty 706 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: four covered snaps last year. Those one hundred and four 707 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: yards were the fewest allowed by any qualified draft eligible corner, 708 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: the fewest of anyone in this draft. So how about 709 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: that he also allowed just five first downs in coverage 710 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: all season, the fewest among Power four corners. You know 711 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: who was second on that list with just seven allowed 712 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: probably Delay, I guess Monster Delaying. So we got delaye. 713 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: We got Kennedy pretty good. 714 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Matt Kennedy did not allow a completion of more than 715 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: ten yards or eleven yards all year. Wow, not one. 716 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: And we talk about ooh competition at slot corner. Well, well, 717 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: when I think about this, how many four wide situations 718 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: do we see Chiefs go dime? You have double slot corner, 719 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: or sometimes depending on the formation, you get five wide. 720 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: You got three slot corners. There's an old adage cornerback 721 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: in the the NFL's like pitching in baseball. You can't 722 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: get enough now because in your points, very astute. Tyreek 723 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Hill started his career when Chiefs when Andy Reid moved 724 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: him to slot receiver or an inside position in the 725 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: three three wide. Go look at the play that the 726 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Chad Henny fourth down play that seals the playoff win 727 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. He's lined up as the inside 728 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: in trips. Okay, well, teams have to decide how they're 729 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: going to cover that, and the league has evolved a 730 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: lot since that twenty twenty season where that becomes your 731 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: main weapon. Is your inside receiver in trips or you 732 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: go balance it. I'm going two wide too, slot, But 733 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: that means you can't get enough good slot corners. So 734 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: who could play the run, Because if you've got a 735 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: weak defender there against the run, teams just check it's 736 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: a cleaned out box and against six dbs and I 737 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: just hand the ball off to some power running back 738 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: like at Kenneth Walker, and now all of a sudden, 739 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: you got a problem. So your slot corners have got 740 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: to have It's why Trent McDuffie was so good in 741 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: the slot corner. The fact that they've got to be 742 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: run defenders, which these guys are. Kennedy is he'll take 743 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: it on. He's just not a press guy. I haven't 744 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: seen him play a lot of press. But that's okay, 745 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: because I think what the Chiefs are going to ask 746 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: him to do and compete against others, which is a 747 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: really good point you made. He's got those traits coming in. Yeah. 748 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: I just think we need young talent at that position 749 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: right now. And I think we've done a great job, 750 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: whether it be through free agency or this draft of 751 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: infusing a bunch of young talent on the defensive side 752 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: of the ball, but at corner specifically in as safety, 753 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: because we lost some pretty good players. But I think 754 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: adding these guys, adding Delane, adding Kennedy and adding Kohu 755 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: in the off season, like we're creating competition there and 756 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: we're adding depth. Which look at the last couple of years, 757 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: we've lost a lot of corners over the course of 758 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: the season, to the point where we have guys that 759 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: were like on the practice squad or signed off the 760 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 2: street playing significant snaps for us. I love the idea 761 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: of kind of cultivating this new age of corners, this 762 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: new generation, for this era of Chiefs football, because you 763 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: look back at twenty twenty two, that's what we did. 764 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: You bring in McDuffie and Watson and Williams, Brian Cook. 765 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, think of how those players helped us get 766 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: to where we were trying to go. You're hoping with 767 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: guys like Delane and Kennedy they can do the same 768 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: thing this time around the. 769 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: Other thing with these corners and slot corners. Because we 770 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: sometimes look at special teams as being parenthetic, right you 771 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: just oh yeah, oh yeah, let's talk about special teams 772 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: for the last thirty seconds. The Chiefs have to be 773 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: better in special teams. It was not our normal selves 774 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: a year ago, and all the penalties, not just that, 775 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: but being just being dominant. And you can actually flip 776 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: games with special teams as tight as these games are. 777 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: And so that's a testimony usually of athleticism throughout your roster. 778 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: So it'll be something that you and I watch even 779 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: in OTAs. We'll watch for We'll watch Ford in camp. 780 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: Is this level up basically of the athleticism, especially in 781 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: the secondary Now, a lot of folks on social media, 782 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: we're freaking out, We're not going to take any offensive guys. 783 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: It's we're getting defensive about it, right, taking all these 784 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: defensive guys and then Q and Hale Varsity or there 785 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: is no place like Nebraska because the state of Nebraska 786 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: and the Cornhusker fans that are throughout the Chiefs Kingdom 787 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: are rejoicing because Emmitt Johnson, the top running back, the 788 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Big ten running back of the year, slips to the 789 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Chiefs grab him as the running back 790 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: to taking this draft. 791 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: So I do like vignettes on lots of different prospects 792 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: every single year, and. 793 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: The Chiefs could take this guy. 794 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, and I have to kind of thread the needle, like, 795 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: this guy's a good player. We could take him. I 796 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe we will, maybe we won't. I constantly 797 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: get accused of being part of like a grand conspiracy 798 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: if I'm just trying to put out smoke screens and 799 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: confuse people or he knows, I don't know. It's truly 800 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: just players that I like, and I say, hey, this 801 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: guy's a guy to know, you know, keep this guy 802 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: in mind. And there's always someone that comments on these 803 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: videos saying mark them off the list when they never 804 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: take the players that Matt talks about. Well, I felt 805 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: great about this one. We took Hma Johnson and we 806 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: did a whole thing on him. So it's proof I'm 807 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: not part of a grand conspiracy. I promise this dude's 808 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: an absolute playmaker. I mean an absolute playmaker. You look 809 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: at his numbers at Nebraska, so last year he led 810 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: the Big Ten and rushing with more than fourteen hundred yards. 811 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: He was one of just four FBS running backs to 812 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: average at least one hundred and twenty rushing yards per game. 813 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: But to me, what separates him is his receiving ability. 814 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: He had forty six receptions last year, second most among 815 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: all FBS running backs. He was the only player in 816 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: the FBS to average more than one hundred and fifty 817 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: scrimmage yards per game, just one drop, one fumble all season, 818 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 2: so he sure handed. I mean Ryan Nutt we talked 819 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: about earlier, a VP of Player Personnel talking about Johnson. 820 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: He said, I don't know why he fell. 821 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 822 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: We were shocked and that's why they traded that for him, 823 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: And I'm fired up. He's going to help this running 824 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: back room quite a bit. 825 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: Let me give you miserables and see who I'm describing here. 826 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: Five ten, two oh five. Here's probably why you dropped 827 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: a four five six forty. He's not going to blaze 828 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: it out. But he has football speed, Yes he does, 829 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: and that shows up on the on the video. But 830 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: who am I describing Jack McKennon a mirab Doulah. A 831 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: mirab Doulah. Yeah, who played in Nebraska. Because the all 832 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: purpose yards of twenty four hundred and sixty by Ammitt 833 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: Johnson was the most in Nebraska since A mirab Doulah. Wow, 834 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: who's still in the league. He's got this guy, A 835 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: Mirabdullah's played over ten years in the league and guess what, Oh, 836 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: he's got a four five six Abdullah has been a 837 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: kick returner. He's been a punt and a kick returner. Yeah, 838 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: there's a comp here with Emma Johnson and a Mirabdullah 839 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: who's been a really good player, if not is a 840 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: great We've seen him play for like five different teams 841 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: against US. I'm always bringing up a Mira Abdullah. But 842 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: Emma Johnson and you mentioned his I love his past 843 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: catching ability because there is some instinct to that as well. 844 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: But his with his forty six receptions last year that 845 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: was second among running backs in all of FBS. But 846 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: I like what he does in the running are the 847 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: passing game in the fact of screens and checkdowns or 848 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: the new fashion. Oh it looks like a checkdown, but 849 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: it's really not. Because an offensive lineman pops out, and 850 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: so he is a natural at running these things angles 851 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: and he turns them into chunk plays. He'll break tackles, 852 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: incredible productivity, two thousand nearly two thousand dollar purpose yards 853 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: last year and you mentioned it going down the line, 854 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: just crazy, consistent with it. So can he be a 855 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: third down back or how does that fit in with 856 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: an Amari di Mercado who looks like a third down 857 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: back and has proven he can be a a good 858 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: one when he was with Arizona orbs. Does he become 859 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: that middle guy between Ken Walker in a Mari Da 860 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: mccardo or Burshard Smith and become can I get second 861 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: down in two? Emma Johnson to me, gives you a 862 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: chance for all of that, And that's where I think 863 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: his value here is exciting, and. 864 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: That's a good problem to have, to have multiple guys 865 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: who you think could fill roles and do a really 866 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: good job at it. His vision stands out to me 867 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: very good, particularly in the passing game. Look on screens. 868 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: His ability to read blocks is next level. I think 869 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: there's times in his video where he should have gone 870 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: down after maybe a ten yard gain and he finds 871 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: a way to break free for like a fifty yard gain. 872 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 2: He's going to make some place for us. The overhaul 873 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: of this running back room is just really exciting, where 874 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: just like defensive tackle, that's an area clearly we had 875 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 2: to get better. We just weren't explosive with the running 876 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: game last year. And I mean, Brett I think has 877 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: done just a wonderful job of You go out there 878 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: and you get the Super Bowl MVP and Ken that's 879 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: your bell cow. Then you get Amar de Mercado, a 880 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: player that with limited opportunities was explosive like a walking 881 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 2: big play. Then Emmitt Johnson being in this mix as well, 882 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: and Berchard Smith, who we're still excited about. That's an explosive, electric, 883 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: exciting room and can't wait to get to St. Joe 884 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: to see these guys in action. 885 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: It also allows you the ability to make Burchard Smith 886 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: into a quasi slot receiver, which is what he was 887 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: at Miami of Florida, because we look at him as 888 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: a running back. He only played one year running back 889 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: at SMU, so he could go back to a role 890 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: where maybe he has more of a feel for still 891 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: being a running back but also being that slot receiver 892 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of running back. So it'll be fun to watch 893 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: the creativity. Now. The other fun thing about Emma Johnson 894 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: was he's already been on the GEHA field at er 895 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: Owd Stadium twenty five carries, one hundred and eight yards, 896 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: seven catches, just kind of fit in with mister touched 897 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, and he played against our next guy. 898 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: Because and I put it on X that I said, 899 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: maybe a better pay more attention when the Chiefs have 900 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: a college game, because the next back to back picks 901 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: were in that game to open up the twenty five 902 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: season at gha Fiel at aero Ad Stadium, the Cincinnati 903 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: against Nebraska game, because Cyrus Allen was the next pick, 904 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: and yes he's a wide receiver and yes he played 905 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bearcats in that same game against Emma 906 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: Johnson and the Nebraska Cornhusker. Cyrus started at Louisiana Tech. 907 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: Two years there Lugerius Sneed's alma mater, and then he 908 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: was a year at Texas A and M, where he 909 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: did now have a lot of productivity. He did it 910 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: at Tech, but at Cincinnati he came roaring back with 911 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: the Bearcats. He had thirteen touchdowns there. If you look 912 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: at Cyrus's game in most of the evaluation coming into 913 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth draft is that goal route guy lineup 914 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: is a slot receiver. Wow, okay, we're talking slot receivers. 915 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: This is a guy that can run a nine route, 916 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: the deep routes on the tree. Talking with Chad o'she 917 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: or wide receivers coach, he goes, no, there might be 918 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: more to that here with Cyrus. So this was so 919 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: after the Kingdom kind of freaked out of like, we're 920 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: just going to take all defensive guys. The Chiefs go 921 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: back to back with offensive players, and I kind of 922 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: want to see what Cyrus Allen can do. 923 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. So those thirteen touchdowns that led the 924 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: Big Twelve and was third in the FBS, I mean 925 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: really impressive ball production also led Cincinnati, and receptions and 926 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 2: receiving yards. A lot of times you look at these 927 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: transfer players and they go to a new place and 928 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: their productions like cut in half or they're just not 929 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 2: the same player. Kind of the opposite for him, where 930 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: he showed up at Cincinnati and became their number one receiver, 931 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 2: led him in virtually every receiving category. What stands out 932 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: about him to me is his elite body control and 933 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 2: his route running, so I agree. I think he's way 934 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: more than just a go route guy. I think he 935 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: can run a variety of routes because you look at 936 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: like his advanced metric like separation numbers. He had great 937 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: numbers and separation statistics against both zone and man coverages 938 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 2: running a variety of routes, So I think he can 939 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: do a lot of things for us. We've talked a 940 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: lot throughout draft season about the importance of not just speed, 941 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: but also like crafty route running, like being a player 942 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 2: that can have a feel for space and just get open. 943 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: Because Cyrus Allen doesn't have like the craziest forty time, 944 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: but you watch his video, he gets open because of 945 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 2: his route running and how he can manipulate the coverage 946 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: with his route running. So yeah, and I'm excited for 947 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: Shadowshada to get with him and to work with that, 948 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: because that's as much of a skill as speed is. 949 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: You can't just teach hey, we're going to make you 950 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,919 Speaker 2: a great route runner. Some guys have it and some don't, 951 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 2: and Cyrus Allen has it well. 952 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: Man. It goes back to my thesis and I've been 953 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: harping on it since the end of the season. Right now, 954 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: route running, making the tough tight window catches is actually 955 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: more of a premium than speed totally because of what's 956 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: happening with the defenses. They're playing more zone, more deep safety. 957 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: They're they don't they're not gonna let you run by them, 958 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: not no jet chip wasp kind of play. So they're 959 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: leaving you lese little pockets and voids and how do 960 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: you get open? And it's why Jackson Smith and Jig. 961 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: But it's just so effective right now. If the Chiefs 962 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: can find one or two of those guys that becomes 963 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: exactly like you said, and hopefully Cyrus Allen is that guy, 964 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: then it's more of it. It's more of a need 965 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: now in the NFL to have those guys than a luxury. Yeah. 966 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I like our receiver corps right now because 967 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: I think they all kind of compliment each other with 968 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: their skill sets, and adding Cyrus Island to that group, 969 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: I think just kind of further emphasizes that point. 970 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,959 Speaker 1: And the last pick was really interesting. I've not met 971 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: Garrett ness Meyer yet. My first question to Garrett ness 972 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: Meyer after I say hey, welcome to the Kingdom and 973 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: fist pump him will be who are you cheering for 974 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty nine? Why? His dad and I've 975 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 1: been around a long time now, it's my thirty third 976 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: year in the league. His dad, Doug was the offensive 977 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: or it was the quarterbacks quarterbacks coach for the Philadelphs. 978 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now he's the OC for the Saints. 979 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: I think, yes, he was OC for the Saints. And 980 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: before that, who were you cheering for the Chiefs of 981 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: the Chargers in twenty three? Because Doug was the quarterbacks 982 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: coach of the Chargers in twenty three. He's had nineteen jobs. 983 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: Doug Nessmeyer. I'm old enough to remember when he was 984 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in the league coming out of the 985 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: University of Idaho. Garrett Nessmyer, who moved twelve times in 986 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: his life because you're just following dad here from spot 987 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: to spot and around the world, has grown up with 988 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: football as much as oatmeal, and there are times when 989 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: you see it in his game. Last year at LSU, 990 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: injuries were tough. LSU had a year very similar to Clemson. Yeah, 991 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: some good players coming out of there, but it was 992 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: not a good year for LSU, and not necessarily it 993 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: was just something just kind of went awrye with those guys, 994 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: and with the schedule that both Clemson LSU plays, particularly 995 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: LSU when it goes literally can go awry a lot. 996 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: But this is a guy that you know, maybe we'll 997 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: win a preseason game. Maybe that'd be nice. Maybe Garrettnusmyer 998 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: like throws for one hundred and fifty yards on the 999 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and we win a preseason game, which it's 1000 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 1: been three years since we've won one. 1001 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: But what was your call after the playoff went over 1002 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: the Texans back in twenty fifteen, like the Chiefs have 1003 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 2: crossed the river. 1004 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: Well, the big red coach with the big red mustache 1005 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty one seasons, the big 1006 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: red coach for the big red mustache has led the 1007 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs to the other side of the river. 1008 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: That could be the preseason call. Yeah, we went again. 1009 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: You know what, it's gonna be that way, I'm gonna 1010 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: do that. I'm going to go off on it and 1011 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: Neusmyer will make the play to win the game. Yes, 1012 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: And coming into the draft this year, in the twenty 1013 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: sixth draft, there was you know, a lot of a 1014 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of opinions about Garrett, but a lot of them 1015 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: were good and many thought that he was like that 1016 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: next kind of after a Mendoze in, you know, Cy Simpson, 1017 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: then he might be the next guy. 1018 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: So Dane Brugler is the draft analyst that I just 1019 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 2: take his word as gospel, Like when the Beast comes 1020 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: out his draft guide, It's as if it descended from 1021 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: the heavens to me. Like, I just whatever he says, 1022 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I believe him because he does the work. Yeah, 1023 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: because he is so thorough in his evaluations. He interviews people, 1024 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: talks to people. Garrett was the number three quarterback on 1025 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 2: his board, behind only Ty Simpson and oh gosh, I'm 1026 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 2: blanking for Nana Mendoza. Those are the two quarterbacks on 1027 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: his board and then Garrett Nesmeyer. So it tells you 1028 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: what he thought of him. And just two years ago, 1029 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: I mean this guy threw for more than four thousand 1030 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: yards and twenty nine touchdowns on thirteen games. So, yeah, 1031 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: tough season at LSU last year. I mean he was 1032 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 2: battling injuries. Ryan Nutt said he thinks he had an 1033 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: oblique for most of the year. He had the cyst 1034 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: on his spine, like a lot of stuff he was 1035 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: dealing with, kind of gutted through it. He's a better 1036 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: player though than what we saw last year. And I 1037 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to Gabe Henderson who's 1038 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 2: now on our social production staff. Gabe or a quarterback 1039 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah, Liberty, go, go Liberty. But he's 1040 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: kind of new to the Chiefs and was kind of asking, hey, 1041 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: have we ever taken like a quarterback in the last 1042 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 2: several years? And I'm like, no, not really. I mean, 1043 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: we've developed some that were udfas, but normally we're signing 1044 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 2: like veterans. And he said, I bet day three this 1045 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: is the year we take a quarterback. And I'm like, 1046 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. And of course around seven rolls around 1047 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 2: we take a quarterback. So shout out to Gabe. He 1048 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: called it profit. I love the idea of kind of 1049 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 2: developing and growing a long term backup who can grow 1050 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 2: with Patrick Mahomes, can grow under coach Read and be 1051 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 2: a guy that you trust for years and years and 1052 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: years if you need him in a pinch. We've seen 1053 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: Coach Read do that with great success over the course 1054 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: of his career, and maybe we have that now. And Garrett, what. 1055 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: Else have you seen other teams? Do they go, Well, 1056 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: you got justin fields, he's the backup, and you take 1057 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: nuss Meyer, you take a waste to pick on nuss Meyer. 1058 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned cornerbacks. Cornerbacks are a currency like pitching in baseball, 1059 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: so our quarter because even if they grow in your system, 1060 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: they become then currency. And if a team is in 1061 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: dire need of a quarterback and they're law and I've 1062 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: watched Garrett Nessmyer grow and working with Patrick Mahomes, then 1063 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he becomes currency down the line 1064 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: where you could hopefully he's here twenty years as a 1065 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: backup or whatever, maybe a starter. When Pat retires in 1066 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: forty years and he becomes a guy, then that becomes 1067 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: a trade opportunity. 1068 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: Like Kevin called or Matt Flynn. 1069 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely it has happened. Matt Flynn's exhibit a of this. 1070 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have done. They won a Super Bowl because 1071 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: of it. So, uh, there's there's a lot here to 1072 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: take into account. But fun to watch him grow because 1073 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: this guy, again, uh, weaned on mother's milk and football 1074 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: because it's all all the dude's been around all his life. 1075 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 2: And that's why I think he is in a great 1076 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 2: position to thrive here as like a long term backup 1077 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 2: because he grew up under a coach. Like the earliest 1078 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: memories he has, I'm sure are of football, and he 1079 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 2: gets it, and I think he's going to be a 1080 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: perfect fit. 1081 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: Plus ten points though, if he cheered for the Chiefs 1082 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 1: against his dad's team when he was a quarterbacks coach 1083 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: of the Eagles, I got it. 1084 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably at its twenty four. 1085 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, be fun to talk to him about all that 1086 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that his dad was with the Chargers too, 1087 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: and along with a lot of other places, Doug's been 1088 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: moving around, and again is the OC of the New 1089 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. There's your draft class. Yeah, we started out 1090 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: getting we're getting offensive about it, but those first four picks, 1091 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: but then took the offensive for the last two. Now, 1092 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: over the days ahead, we will also jump into the 1093 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. And we got a glimpse of those guys. 1094 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't talk about it yet because it's not official, 1095 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 2: but there's some fun ones. 1096 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 1: Out there for sure, and there will always be one 1097 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: or two that come flying out and make the team. 1098 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, every single year. And don't forget about the tryout 1099 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: guys too. So rookie Mini caamp is this weekend where 1100 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: like fifty tryout guys will be out there. They have 1101 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: no guarantees passed this weekend. But Cooper McDonald is exhibit 1102 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: a of a player that showed up here last year 1103 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 2: around this time with no guarantee past the three days 1104 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: of rookie Mini camp. Not only did he earn a 1105 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: contract with the team, he made the fifty three man 1106 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: roster at a training camp and he appeared in all 1107 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 2: seventeen games. That's pretty cool. And every single player, whether 1108 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 2: it be a draft pick or a tryout player or 1109 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: the udfas that are already signed at rookie Mini camp. 1110 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 2: One thing I always try to tell them that the 1111 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 2: Rookie Dinner is everyone has a chance here. If you're here, 1112 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: you have a chance. You're not here just to be 1113 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 2: a body. You were here to compete and you were 1114 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: here to help us win the Super Bowl next year. 1115 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: And I think that opportunity is pretty. 1116 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: Cool, and they do indeed get an opportunity. Not every 1117 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: franchise is like that. Now when here you walk in 1118 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: the door, you got to echo. Boido is another great 1119 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: example from Ghana. He grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, went 1120 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: to play the k State, was a big twelve champion there, 1121 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: but he's drove in ubered in from Lawrence to try 1122 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 1: out and became a super Bowl champion. 1123 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it made plays on special times. 1124 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll be talking about the undrafted free agents 1125 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: as it comes out of Rookie Mini Caamp. But for 1126 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: this episode, the last one in this set, because as 1127 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: soon as we're done, you just saw the opening of 1128 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom, you'll hear the jackhammers right away in 1129 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: the background. This will be the last time in this set, 1130 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, we're getting defensive about it.