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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: good day, have you with us here on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live the Show, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us, and we're diving headlong into the off

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Speaker 1: season and upcoming plans, just one day removed from hearing

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Speaker 1: from head coach Sean McDermott and gim Brandon Bean, who

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Speaker 1: gave their season wrap up thoughts on the team, the

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Speaker 1: season that was, and things they may have to do

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Speaker 1: in the not too distant future. And we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: the salary cap situation in earnest in about thirty minutes time,

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Speaker 1: when we have Mike Janitti from spot Track join us

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Speaker 1: to kind of crunch some of the numbers with us

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Speaker 1: in terms of what the Bills are looking at. As

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Speaker 1: you heard Brandon Bean outlined yesterday, things are going to

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Speaker 1: be pretty restrictive because there are ways that they can

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Speaker 1: which projects them to be about forty three million over

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Speaker 1: the cap. And that's if it's to forty two, which

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Speaker 1: is widely anticipated. Be nice. If it's more, yeah, it'd

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Speaker 1: be less of a burden to get out from under right.

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Speaker 2: That I think that when I was telling Brownie this before,

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Speaker 2: it's like it was last year. Probably I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe fifty percent again, maybe one hundred percent more than

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Speaker 2: the gap waslast year at this time. I think they

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Speaker 2: base salary is just a piece of it. And as

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Speaker 2: the season rolls through the off season, they get you know,

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Speaker 2: they get some money for OTA's, they get some money

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Speaker 2: for being on the roster on June first, they get

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Speaker 2: some money for this, for that and the other. What

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Speaker 2: know he's gonna make you, he's not going anywhere, and

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Speaker 2: all those bonuses that he's you know that you've got

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Speaker 2: now as a bonus signing bonus, and then it gets

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Speaker 2: cut all that off. You cut four fifths if it's

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Speaker 2: a five year deal. You cut four fifths of that

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Speaker 2: twenty three million dollars just by giving Josh's money up front. Now,

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Speaker 2: so stuff like that can happen, so they can get

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Speaker 2: under the cap. And you hear the stuff is like,

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Speaker 2: you know, this cap is not real.

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Speaker 3: It's real. It's just.

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Speaker 2: For instance, the Bills had a ton of money on

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Speaker 2: the cap last year. I think they only spent two

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Speaker 2: hundred and nine million. I say that it's not my

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Speaker 2: money because they had dead money, because it's not my

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Speaker 2: Money's what I guess, because they had so much dead money.

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Speaker 2: But they only had to spend two hundred and nine million.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like they're going, you know, they're going

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Speaker 2: disappears they don't get to they don't get to spend it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, owners are like, yeah, give them the

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Speaker 2: money up front because it's money I'm not gonna have

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Speaker 2: to pay next year. Right, So, uh, that's kind of

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Speaker 2: where they're at now. We'll see, but they're gonna get

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Speaker 2: those hoops to get that done. But they're still not

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna They're not going to free up eighty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think because of that, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be looking at greater roster turnover than we've seen the

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Speaker 1: last few years. On average, twenty five to thirty percent

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Speaker 1: I think this roster this offseason could be closer to

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Speaker 2: Which means probably about twenty five, twenty to twenty five guys.

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Speaker 1: Right off the rip. You've got twenty two unrestricted free agents.

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Speaker 2: You know it's on the fifty three though I mean

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Speaker 1: Now there is there's twenty two unrestricted free agents.

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Speaker 2: There's guys who and we said this last year, there's

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Speaker 2: we thought that about last year and you know here

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Speaker 2: this last offseason and this one as well, is where

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Speaker 2: sharpen around here we go and they got not only that.

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Speaker 2: And and the tape measure. I mean, they got to

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Speaker 2: get these guys right pro tractor. They gotta they've got

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Speaker 2: to nail the draft. They gotta nail the free agents.

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Speaker 2: They got to nail the guys they want to keep.

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Speaker 2: They gotta nail some guys who we've never heard of

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Speaker 2: And plus the coaching Staft's got to say, listen, we

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Speaker 2: don't have a choice now. We've got to play this

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's kind of what we're looking at now, more

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Speaker 1: For a better sense on this, we go to the

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Speaker 1: man himself, that is Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean. As

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Speaker 1: we told you, he spoke to the media yesterday and

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Speaker 1: here was his one minute dissertation. If you will on

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Speaker 1: the team's salary cap situation heading into this offseason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean it's not we don't have,

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Speaker 5: you know, the same money we had going into twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 5: you know, in twenty twenty. But we will will work

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Speaker 5: around it. You know, we're not planning to take a

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Speaker 5: younger in some areas, yes, Will we have to rely

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Speaker 5: on draft picks? Maybe we don't have you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: we're not able to keep five d tackles that we

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Speaker 5: You know, We've always tried to create as much depth

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Speaker 5: play with some depth down the stretch. Sometimes when you're

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Speaker 5: be an option, Jay to your question, But I don't

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Speaker 5: think I'm not laying my head down tonight going we

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Speaker 1: Year, so essentially they can't be quite as aggressive as

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Speaker 1: being since he got here make heavy use of one

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Speaker 1: like that. I think it's a roster hole filling exercise

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Speaker 1: with one year deals that you're going to see on

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at last year, Connor McGovern and

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Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy. I think we're the only people that signed

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Speaker 3: A ployer. But he's a resign right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's this has been and.

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Speaker 2: I still like the strategy a lot because of the

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Speaker 2: flexibility it provides you, and it also gives the players

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Speaker 2: what they want ultimately as well, freedom to move if

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Speaker 2: year and get to know the organization before they submit

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Speaker 2: long term. It's it's a really good strategy and we're

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Speaker 2: starting to see a ton of it around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: That is really good for the Bills because there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be more and more and more guys that are with

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Speaker 2: they want to hit and you sign them to a

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Speaker 2: one year deal, it's a home run. Like you know,

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Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd's a perfect example. It's a it's a win win,

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Speaker 2: and it's a strategy the Bills started using as soon

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Speaker 2: as Brandon Bean became GM. They started doing it that

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Speaker 2: first off season, and more and more it's become the

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Speaker 2: tarn you can down the list the guys that have

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Speaker 2: signed extension second contracts with the Bills, and you've got

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Speaker 2: on a shorter deal, and while the bulk of the

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Speaker 2: after year after year, it's about getting those guys to

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Speaker 2: fill in those gaps around those stars and maybe coming

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Speaker 3: We've got those core guys.

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Speaker 3: Man. I want to be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen it time and again and it's been

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Speaker 2: a great strategy for Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how it works this this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean addressed that strategy going forward into this offseason.

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Speaker 1: So here is his take on one year deals being

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Speaker 1: a strategy this offseason.

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Speaker 5: I think when we get a comp pick, I think

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be at ten draft picks. We're gonna need,

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Speaker 5: you know, a good port. You know, we need to

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Speaker 5: hit this draft, and we need to hit every draft,

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Speaker 5: because we've talked about it all along. If you if

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Speaker 5: this cap situation that Jay was asking me about, then

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Speaker 5: it really shows you're in I think we had young

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Speaker 5: those guys, and we may have to count on you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe we didn't have to count on an Aja as much.

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Speaker 5: You know, we were a little.

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Speaker 5: A guy like that may have to be more accountable

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Speaker 5: and play sooner and be counted on, and so there'll

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Speaker 5: be some situations like that.

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Speaker 1: So again that's the second comment he made yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: sense a youth movement is coming here with respect to

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Speaker 1: this roster. You got some foundational pieces that are probably

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Speaker 1: going to age off this roster, players in there early

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Speaker 1: to mid thirties who are going to age off this roster,

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Speaker 1: and they have to go younger in some places, maybe

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: We lead off today with Dan in Rochester. What do

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Speaker 7: Hey? Chris? Do hey? Chris. Yeah, great job on the broadcast.

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Speaker 7: I got a I think we did a wide receiver

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Speaker 7: threatening somebody's life over a football game. I'm a buffle

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Speaker 2: Here's and here's the thing too, And this is typical,

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that's going to be remembered about

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Speaker 1: And for those that don't know, Tyler Bass, after missing

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Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia for turning a negative into a positive. Yet again, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Frankly, absolutely, And yeah, I can't add anything to that.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right on point, and it's it's the thing

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and too, Cindy and

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Speaker 1: Niagara Falls. What do you got for a Cindy Hi?

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Speaker 8: Guys. First of all, I want to say thank you

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Speaker 10: wanted to say that I think one of the keys

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Speaker 10: to the Bills advancing further in the playoffs actually starts

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Speaker 10: in the regular season, because we need I think that

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Speaker 10: first round by and in each of the last several years,

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Speaker 10: we have lost games in the regular season that I

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Speaker 10: think we should have won and have come back to

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Speaker 10: bite us, I think ultimately at the end, because we

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Speaker 10: don't get that by because we lost TOCT the Jets

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Speaker 10: or Jacksonville, or we got the twelve men on the field.

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Speaker 10: And I remember the Bills teams in the nineties, Steve,

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Speaker 10: I went almost every game, and I have such great

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Speaker 10: respect for you. I was at the eighty nine Cleveland

448
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Speaker 10: Brown's playoff game in Cleveland behind a poll at horrible seats.

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Speaker 10: At it was even worse than that. There was an

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Speaker 10: overhang from the upper deck to cut off your line

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Speaker 10: of view if you were in the lower deck, so

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Speaker 10: any ball more than ten yards in the air, I

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Speaker 10: couldn't see where it was going.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was terrible. And they had a TV set

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Speaker 10: on the back of the overhang that was sixty yards

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Speaker 10: away from you. So I spent most of the game

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Speaker 10: looking through binoculars at a TV set that was fuzzy.

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Speaker 10: But be that as it may. You know, when you

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Speaker 10: have to play that extra game, you get more injuries,

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Speaker 10: and injuries really killed us this year. And if you

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Speaker 10: had that advantage, and I remember three of the Bills

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Speaker 10: for Super Bowls. We had that home field advantage the

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Speaker 10: buye you play up, you've already essentially won the first game,

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Speaker 10: and you play a lesser opponent in your first round.

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Speaker 10: It's something that I think the Bills have to focus

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Speaker 10: better on not dropping those games in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: I'd agree with you.

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Speaker 2: You can look back, and I've always said one of

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Speaker 2: the things about this team, this Bills team, is they're

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Speaker 2: so hard to beat. And I know it sounds crazy

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Speaker 2: because you know they're out of the playoffs again, but

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Speaker 2: you know, the Chiefs got out of here with a win,

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Speaker 2: and you look back, they had their the margins of

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Speaker 2: victory for their losses this year. The first one was

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Speaker 2: by six points to the Jets, remember way all the

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Speaker 2: way back in overtime. Then you lost by five, they

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Speaker 2: lost by four, they lost by six again, they lost

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Speaker 2: by two, they lost by three.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: And then they lost by three in the playoffs. In

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Speaker 2: the regular in the postseason, you just don't run off

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Speaker 2: and leave this team.

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Speaker 3: Nobody does.

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Speaker 1: And even when they're playing poorly.

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Speaker 2: Even when they played like dogs, you can't beat them

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Speaker 2: by more than six points. And that's that's just this year.

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Speaker 2: You go back to last year they had they had

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Speaker 2: losses of three three two, and that's it. Yeah, that's it,

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Speaker 2: three three and two. That's for last two years. Their

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Speaker 2: largest margin of loss is six six points six. And

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Speaker 2: then you gotta go all the way back, and we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this before. You got to go all the

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Speaker 2: way back to twenty twenty one two, which is two

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Speaker 2: full years, and go all the way to the Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: Colt game right fifteen in November twenty first of twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one, for a double digit loss.

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Speaker 3: For a double digit loss.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that you mentioned this, Chris, you know, being

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Speaker 1: better in the regular season, becausehean McDermott addressed that very

501
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Speaker 1: subject yesterday getting to six and six. He said they

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Speaker 1: are going to address that in terms of their evaluations

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Here's what he said about that.

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Speaker 11: That's a critical piece of the evaluation, tim And when

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Speaker 11: you go back to it, and this is even though

506
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Speaker 11: we did what we did, it's like, how do we

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Speaker 11: get there?

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Speaker 6: We shouldn't.

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Speaker 11: In my mind as a coach and confident our abilities

510
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Speaker 11: and our players' abilities is we should have never gotten

511
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Speaker 11: there to begin with. And so it's lessons learned from that,

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Speaker 11: which I won't obviously get into the details on that now,

513
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Speaker 11: but it's hey, let's make sure we don't get into

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Speaker 11: that spot again. Now. There's things that cause some of

515
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Speaker 11: that too, that are sometimes, you know, not always directly

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Speaker 11: within your control. Some of its injury related, and I

517
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Speaker 11: felt like we were more banged up than what I

518
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Speaker 11: would have liked a little bit last year and as

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Speaker 11: well this year. That's no excuse. We've got to kind

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Speaker 11: of dive into that a little bit deeper in terms

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Speaker 11: of why, right, why is that happening? Just as one piece,

522
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Speaker 11: but overall, it's a lot of valuable lessons that as

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Speaker 11: a staff we can take from that earlier part of

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Speaker 11: the season. I believe some of our players can take

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Speaker 11: from that earlier part of the season as well. And

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Speaker 11: some of that got corrected, which was good to see

527
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Speaker 11: during the season where what went wrong early in the

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Speaker 11: year was executed better, i'll say, in the back half

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Speaker 11: of the season.

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Speaker 1: So he wants to know, Hey, I never expected to

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Speaker 1: be at six and six myself. We need to evaluate

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Speaker 1: why we ended up there and made it so difficult

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Speaker 1: on ourselves to climb out of that hole and get

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and that's what he and his staff

535
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Speaker 1: tend to get to the bottom two this offseason. So

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Speaker 1: to your point, Chris, they are better through the course

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. We do have to take a

538
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Speaker 1: break here because when we come back, we're gonna crunch

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Speaker 1: some of these salary cab numbers with founder and managing

540
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Speaker 1: editor of spot track dot Com, one of the more

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Speaker 1: popular salarycab sites for not just the NFL, but just

542
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Speaker 1: about every other professional sport as well. Mike Janitty will

543
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Speaker 1: join us as we crunch the numbers and see how

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Speaker 1: the Bills may take a course of action in wiping

545
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Speaker 1: out being forty three million over the cap before even

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Speaker 1: doing off season business. Mike Janity up next here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

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Speaker 1: joined now by the founder and managing editor of spot

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Speaker 1: track dot com, a salary cap clearinghouse for just about

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Speaker 1: every professional league you can think of. Any chance, Mike

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Speaker 1: Janitty is going to be tackling the n L, the

553
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Speaker 1: National Women's Soccer League maybe who knows, but the guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How you have enough time on your

555
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Speaker 1: hands to crunch all these numbers all the time. Mike,

556
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's accountants that want to do this

557
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Speaker 1: much numbers work. But thanks for joining us. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got a situation here that I think for just

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Speaker 1: the average NFL fans sometimes they look at this and

560
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Speaker 1: they get all cross eyed. But maybe the first question

561
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Speaker 1: here forty three million over and we all know that

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Speaker 1: there are ways to maneuver out from under a burden

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Speaker 1: like that in terms of being over the cap. But

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Speaker 1: how much more difficult would you say the task is

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Speaker 1: this offseason for the Bills to get out from under

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Speaker 1: that and maybe fill out the roster the way they'd

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Speaker 1: like to as opposed to previous seasons.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a nice way to frame it, because you're right,

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Speaker 12: everybody has the opportunity to do this every single offseason, right,

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Speaker 12: This isn't this isn't new. You know, the bigger thequarterback

571
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Speaker 12: contract gets, the harder this gets. I wouldn't say Josh

572
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Speaker 12: Allen's cap hit is daunting right now because over twenty

573
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Speaker 12: two million of that can come off the books this year.

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Speaker 6: That's just how the cap conversion system works.

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Speaker 12: So in comparison to other years, Von Miller situation makes

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Speaker 12: things a little bit more difficult because you're in a

577
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Speaker 12: bit of an unknown there, and that contract is fully

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Speaker 12: guaranteed to a certain degree. And really you've got some

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Speaker 12: aging players that make Brandon Bean's decision on restructuring contracts

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Speaker 12: a little bit more complicated, right. Those are the players

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Speaker 12: you have to be conscious of whether it's a yes

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Speaker 12: or no to.

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Speaker 6: Moving cap room down the line a little bit.

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Speaker 12: There's also a lot of youth here right where flat

585
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Speaker 12: out contract extensions might be the better way to go.

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Speaker 12: And that's a good football decision and a good business decision.

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Speaker 12: So is it harder this year than other years? I

588
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 12: don't think so. I think we a couple of years

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Speaker 12: back when there were seven or eight extensions that had

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Speaker 12: to get done at one time. That's probably as complicated

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Speaker 12: as things got here on who needs to stay, who

592
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Speaker 12: needs to go. But you can open up thirty forty

593
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Speaker 12: million of space pretty easily with some simple conversions, and

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Speaker 12: I would imagine that's where things start this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and conversion just means all the bonuses from roster

596
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Speaker 2: option bonuses, roster bonuses, signing bonus, just give it to

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Speaker 2: them now, because you know there's a you know, more

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Speaker 2: than a handful of these guys. You know, they're not

599
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: going anywhere. They're not gonna get cut so you may

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Speaker 2: as well give them their money now. And it goes

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Speaker 2: on and he pushed that down the road right.

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 12: Yep, you're just giving them the the salary they were

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Speaker 12: gonna make, make it a signing bonus handed to him

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Speaker 12: now and push some of that salary cap into future years.

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what is the you know, what is the overall

608
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Speaker 2: view of this? And like so, if they did this

609
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Speaker 2: and maxed it, how far under could they? I mean there,

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Speaker 2: you're talking forty three million. They got to get under

611
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Speaker 2: or cut off. They can do twenty three of it

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Speaker 2: with Josh and with four or five other more guys.

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Speaker 2: They can do the rest of that. But they need

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Speaker 2: to What do they need past the two forty two

615
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Speaker 2: to have enough money to do business for a draft

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Speaker 2: class with ten picks?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 12: You want to have at least fifteen to twenty right there,

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Speaker 12: even though you're not drafting exactly, you know, up high

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Speaker 12: and near the draft, which is a good thing because

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Speaker 12: it means you won some ball games this year, and

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Speaker 12: then you want to give yourself at least fifteen to

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Speaker 12: twenty million just to operate, just to maneuver with anything,

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Speaker 12: let alone any kind of splashy mark signing. So you

625
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Speaker 12: want to get yourself into a situation where you're at

626
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Speaker 12: about thirty million. That's generally the number I give to

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Speaker 12: most teams for that first league day. If you're thirty

628
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Speaker 12: million under, you've given yourself at least a chance to

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Speaker 12: consider a big splashy signing or a couple of you know,

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Speaker 12: BC free agent moves that you may need to make

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Speaker 12: to initiate your offseason. So there's you know, there's about

632
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Speaker 12: eighty million that has to get opened up here give

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Speaker 12: or take within the next couple of weeks to get

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Speaker 12: themselves at least cap compliant and then give themselves some

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Speaker 12: operating room as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, and some prime candidates, which I know you outlined

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Speaker 1: in your clap cap clearing possibilities that you posted on

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Speaker 1: your Twitter handle at spot track spot rac, Dion Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: Taron Johnson, Rasul Douglas all look like prime extension candidates

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Speaker 1: obviously Johnson and Dawkins. Maybe you could stretch out a

641
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Speaker 1: little bit longer than Douglas. Who's you know, coming up

642
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Speaker 1: on his age thirty one season exactly.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Douglas maybe the third in this list. He's new,

644
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Speaker 12: but it certainly seems like he's a fit the cap.

645
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Speaker 12: It's only nine million there, so you could live with it,

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Speaker 12: but just the conversion. But you know, with the situation

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Speaker 12: happening in that secondary of this offseason, I think it's

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Speaker 12: it's being penciled in red right now, right in terms

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Speaker 12: of what what safeties are about to lose here the

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Speaker 12: tredevious white situation going forward. So keeping a guy like

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Speaker 12: Rose Will Douglas and Taron Johnson in tow for two

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Speaker 12: three more seasons and lowering their cabet for twenty two

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Speaker 12: twenty four at the same time seems like a good

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Speaker 12: football slash business move. And Dawkins just had his best season,

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Speaker 12: so entering a contract year, you want to push him

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Speaker 12: out three years guaranteed, lower that hit this year and

657
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Speaker 12: keep him a you know, on Josh's blind side for

658
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Speaker 12: the immediate future.

659
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Speaker 2: One of the things we've talked about the Brandon Bean

660
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Speaker 2: loves to do, We talked about it even earlier in

661
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Speaker 2: the show today, is that the prevalence of one year contracts.

662
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Speaker 2: Have you seen an uptick in that in the past

663
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Speaker 2: handful of years.

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Speaker 12: For sure, especially with the veterans that you know in

665
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 12: free agency that just aren't getting the bang for buck anymore. Unfortunately,

666
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 12: it's a bigger conversation, but we're seeing teams do this

667
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 12: kind of on a bigger, grander scale, Steve, the Houston

668
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 12: Texans have been operating like this for three seasons. So

669
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Speaker 12: instead of ripping the band aid off in Houston, what

670
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Speaker 12: they basically did is brought in a bunch of veterans

671
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Speaker 12: who maybe a little bit past their full prime, gave

672
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 12: them slightly overpaid one year contracts, which gives Nick Cassario

673
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Speaker 12: all the control in the world, right because he knows

674
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Speaker 12: every year he gets to make all the brand new decisions.

675
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Speaker 12: And if any of those guys end up sticking, that's

676
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Speaker 12: when you start thinking multi years. So they're a prime

677
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 12: example of sort of resetting themselves without rebuilding necessarily speaking,

678
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Speaker 12: because of shorter contracts. And this is a conversation I've

679
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Speaker 12: been trying to have for four or five years now.

680
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Speaker 12: I'm not even sure superstars shouldn't be taken shorter contracts, right,

681
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Speaker 12: I Mean, we're seeing mahomes have to restructure after four

682
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 12: seasons of his twelve years because the market just changed

683
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 12: so drastically. So I think everybody should be conscious of

684
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Speaker 12: this kind of operation. And it's not just for teams

685
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Speaker 12: that are maybe at the bottom of the pool.

686
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Speaker 1: Here and then the more difficult conversations that probably will

687
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Speaker 1: have to be had between Brandon Bean and representatives for

688
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: some players on this roster and players that come to

689
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Speaker 1: mind here. One you already mentioned Jordan Poyer entering his

690
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: age thirty three season, got a year left on his contract,

691
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Speaker 1: but if he's not on this roster, he could save

692
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: the team five million dollars or upwards. Thereof Deontay Hardy,

693
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Speaker 1: you know, a player that probably didn't fill the role

694
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Speaker 1: that they anticipated. He's a guy that's got a year

695
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: left on his deal, but could save this team over

696
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: four million dollars. And then you got other players that

697
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Speaker 1: you probably want to keep around, but just not at

698
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Speaker 1: the cost at which they are going to run you

699
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Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty four, and I would think Dawson

700
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Speaker 1: Knox is a guy that's going to be at that

701
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Speaker 1: at the head of that list. At fourteen point three

702
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Speaker 1: for a camp figure, I mean that's I mean, that's

703
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: he's pay cut territory or I mean, I don't even

704
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Speaker 1: know if I want to say extension. He signed out

705
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Speaker 1: for a few more years. You may just have to

706
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Speaker 1: take a pay cut here.

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Speaker 12: I don't know that he would do that, Chris. He's

708
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Speaker 12: fully guaranteed this year. You gave him basically three years

709
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Speaker 12: fully guaranteed in this contract, and it was understandable at

710
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Speaker 12: the time. It hasn't played out to where they wanted

711
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 12: it to, and obviously Dalton Kincaid has now you know,

712
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 12: supplaced them in terms of the operational role. But this

713
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 12: is not a season I think that you can go

714
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Speaker 12: up to it to Dawson Knox and say, let's get

715
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Speaker 12: rid of that five million dollars roster bonus, unfortunately, because

716
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Speaker 12: it's already fully guaranteed. So that's why, in terms of

717
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Speaker 12: the piece that I wrote for this offseason, I've got

718
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Speaker 12: him as just a simple cap conversion. Right now, let's

719
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Speaker 12: push some of that fourteen point three down the line

720
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Speaker 12: a little bit, and then there's a very big conversation

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Speaker 12: we had after twenty twenty four about the you know,

722
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Speaker 12: Dawson Knox and a couple of other players. But you're right,

723
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Speaker 12: there's Hardy conversation. Maybe Anaheim Heinz conversation, certainly a Trudavious

724
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Speaker 12: White conversation as well.

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Speaker 1: That was the one I was going to get to next,

726
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Speaker 1: because you know, we Tardavius is an unknown in terms

727
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Speaker 1: of what he's gonna look like when he does get

728
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Speaker 1: back on the field. There's no timetable for when he

729
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: does get back. He obviously ruptured his achilles October first,

730
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Speaker 1: and that is sometimes a ten to ten month to

731
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Speaker 1: one year recovery. He's done a lot of restructures in

732
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Speaker 1: the past for this club when they've come to him

733
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Speaker 1: and asked for help. Is pay cut something that we're

734
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Speaker 1: looking at here, because you don't know what kind of

735
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Speaker 1: player he's gonna be, if and when he does come back.

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Speaker 1: What's what are the options there?

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Speaker 12: Certainly, you know, the Bills have been pretty prominent with

738
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Speaker 12: doing that. You know, more than a lot of teams

739
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Speaker 12: I've seen in the league in terms of going up

740
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Speaker 12: to a guy and saying, you know, if you'll take

741
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Speaker 12: a million and a half, we can convert those into

742
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Speaker 12: incentives instead. You know, we'd like to keep you around.

743
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Speaker 12: You would you consider doing that? I'm not sure Tardavius's

744
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 12: situation is at that level. I, in my opinion, we

745
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 12: got to get out of this contract completely, especially from

746
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 12: March thirteenth, because we need that cap space right and

747
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 12: then we'll talk about a re signed deal if that's

748
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 12: in the cards. You know, think about it like a

749
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 12: starting pitcher who you may not know how many innings

750
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Speaker 12: you are getting out of him this year, but you

751
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 12: may get something out of him in twenty twenty five.

752
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Speaker 12: Is there a world where, you know, a really team

753
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 12: friendly two year contract that starts from fresh with Trudevie

754
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 12: as makes sense for both organizations because, like I said,

755
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 12: this is not a position where they're plentiful. You know,

756
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 12: they're trying to replace a lock heer in terms of

757
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 12: that secondary and I know Trdevius probably wants to stick

758
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Speaker 12: around with this organization and.

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Speaker 6: Probably vice versa.

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Speaker 12: But I got to get out of this contract right

761
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Speaker 12: now for starters, and then we'll see what happens after that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but if you get out, you can't. If

763
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: you release him, it's still ten million against the cap.

764
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Speaker 2: If you get now, if you tear it up and

765
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Speaker 2: sign a new deal, everything changes that how that works.

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Speaker 12: The dead cap still hits, but you start from fresh

767
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 12: and you can basically monitor your own salary structure, your

768
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Speaker 12: own signing bonus structure, et cetera. So you could bring

769
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Speaker 12: him down to a minimum salary, right the dead cap

770
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 12: would still hit the books, but you're still freeing up

771
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Speaker 12: over six million from where he started, so there's room

772
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Speaker 12: to operate with a smaller contract. That's still where I'm

773
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Speaker 12: going if I'm Brandon Beana, I just want to get

774
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Speaker 12: out of this large deal that, unfortunately injuries have impacted

775
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Speaker 12: too much over the time.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned probably about fifteen million for the draft class,

778
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Speaker 1: of which they're anticipating to have ten picks assuming they

779
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Speaker 1: get the third round compensatory for the loss of Edmunds

780
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Speaker 1: and free agency last year. We heard Brandon Bean yesterday

781
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Speaker 1: talk about having to depend on younger players here going forward.

782
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Speaker 1: It would certainly indicate a good chance of maybe, if

783
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Speaker 1: not keeping all ten of those picks. He's probably drafting

784
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Speaker 1: about seven or eight players at the very least, and

785
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Speaker 1: might need all of them to be on the roster

786
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Speaker 1: because they're going to have to try to trim by

787
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Speaker 1: going with cheap labor too, won't they.

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Speaker 12: Mike, Yeah, that's the big change. That's the change from

789
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Speaker 12: this year versus the last couple of seasons. Is you're

790
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Speaker 12: now relying as much as possible on this draft. We've

791
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Speaker 12: seen it in Detroit, We've seen it in Kansas City

792
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Speaker 12: over the past couple of years, certainly in Philadelphia. You know,

793
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Speaker 12: any of these teams that are sort of still in

794
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 12: it at the end of the end of January, that's

795
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 12: where Buffalo is now. And hitting on at least two

796
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 12: or three of those top draft picks is the most

797
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 12: important part of the offseason every single year, because it's

798
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Speaker 12: not even just making the process right. You probably need

799
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Speaker 12: two starters, yeah, out of your draft class every single

800
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Speaker 12: year to keep going where you've been for the past

801
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 12: couple of seasons here, so I'm with you. You know,

802
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Speaker 12: maybe they're taking two or three of those picks and

803
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Speaker 12: moving up. That's been something that's happened the past couple

804
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 12: of draft classes. But it's about finding starting roster players

805
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 12: and certainly some depth on your defensive line at some

806
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 12: point in time in April. And it's easily the most

807
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Speaker 12: important part of this offseason, regardless of what happened in

808
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Speaker 12: free agency.

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Speaker 2: And if you looking back, you can tell this the

810
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Speaker 2: last draft of twenty twenty three Draft they did. They

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Speaker 2: got exactly two starters out of that draft, wins Dalton

812
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Kincaid and Osiris Torrance Dorrian Williams looks to have an

813
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Speaker 2: upside which maybe he'lly emerges something more in the future,

814
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: but that's you know, and then you go back. You

815
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Speaker 2: got Terrell Bernard and James Cook and Shook Khalil Shakir

816
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Speaker 2: out of the previous draft. So they do seem to

817
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Speaker 2: be on schedule or ahead of schedule getting starters out

818
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Speaker 2: of each draft. This draft, and for people who are wondering,

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Speaker 2: the Bills have one pick in each of the first

820
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: four rounds of this draft. Then they have three fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick. I'm sorry, five, two, five, six, four sixes

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Speaker 2: and a seven is what we've You've got four to

823
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: sixes and a seven, two fives, four sixes and a seven.

824
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Speaker 2: So if that's the case, certainly there is a bottom

825
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Speaker 2: heavy draft and the number of picks they're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: But and they picked twenty eight, fifty fifth, ninety seventh,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty third. I mean that is it's

828
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Speaker 2: down the line. But they've done it in the last

829
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Speaker 2: couple of years. They've managed to find them. And I

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Speaker 2: know you're not a draft guy, but how does that

831
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Speaker 2: There is absolutely no effect. If you draft these guys

832
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Speaker 2: particularly high, they get their money no matter what, whether

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Speaker 2: they can contry or not.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 12: And look that you know everybody outside of the second

836
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Speaker 12: round essentially is is on a one year hit, right

837
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Speaker 12: you can you can get out of third and fourth

838
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Speaker 12: and fifth round draft picks as quickly as you need to.

839
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Speaker 12: Not saying that's that's the way teams should be operating,

840
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 12: but that's the control you get, which is not only

841
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 12: cost control, but also control of how how long you

842
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 12: want to keep these players rostered. And there's some some

843
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 12: rookie contracts that I think make it moved on for

844
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 12: just this offseason, just to clear one one point five

845
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 12: million in cap space, because that's you know, what the

846
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 12: team needs at this point in time. So you're right,

847
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 12: you know, not a lot of top one hundred draft picks.

848
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Speaker 12: That's usually the cutoff line for starting roster players. But

849
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Speaker 12: Brandon Bean has found some gems in the fourth and

850
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Speaker 12: fifth over the past five years. And that's one of

851
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 12: the big reasons that the Bills are here. It's being

852
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 12: able to have cost control and depth in the positions

853
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 12: where you need that.

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Speaker 1: Mike, thanks as always for the insight and the number crunching.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I'm sure we'll catch up with you

856
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: down the line here in the offseason. Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys, appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 1: That's Mike Janitdi, founder and managing editor of spot track

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Speaker 1: dot com. If salary cab numbers make your head spin,

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Speaker 1: you can go to Mike's site. It's user friendly. You

861
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Speaker 1: can even be your own GM and use his salary

862
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Speaker 1: cab management tool. What happens if I move this guy

863
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Speaker 1: off the roster? What happens if I restructure this dude?

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Speaker 1: And it can kind of show you the conversions and

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Speaker 1: calculations if you're into that stuff, or if you just

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Speaker 1: want a general update on where the team sits, maybe

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Speaker 1: after one of these moves are made. Mike's pretty good

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Speaker 1: about updating his site pretty much up to the hour.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know how the heck he does it,

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't just do the NFL, he does NBA,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, NHL. I mean, he's all over it

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Speaker 1: in just about every league, and just to have the

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Speaker 1: working knowledge of how all of those cap structures work,

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Speaker 1: he does an excellent job, so definitely a worthy follow

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Speaker 1: and a bookmark favorite on your web browser if you're

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Speaker 1: into that stuff. We got to take a break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, more of your phone calls and

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Speaker 1: more discussion and comments from Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean's

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Speaker 1: press conferences yesterday. We'll play you some of the highlights

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Speaker 1: in our number two here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Cold of Health.

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Speaker 13: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get some phone calls in here before we get

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Speaker 1: to the top of the hour. So let's first go

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Speaker 1: to Kevin in Hamburg. What do you got first, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 14: He Hey, guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking

889
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 14: my call? Sure, I think I got maybe a few

890
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 14: solutions for the camp problem and injury problems. Sue you ready? Yeah,

891
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 14: Tredavious is a great player, but he'd become undependable health wife,

892
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 14: getting hurt in twenty one of Thanksgiven, coming back twenty

893
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 14: two sparingly, and then getting hurt this year. So if

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Speaker 14: I was the Bills, maybe they should think about maybe

895
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Speaker 14: a high draft pick, maybe second round, no less, A

896
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Speaker 14: good cornerback. So if he does go down and we

897
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Speaker 14: have to say goodbye to him because of the injury problems,

898
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Speaker 14: we won't be you know, paying that will be paying

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Speaker 14: a rookie deal. And then we're gonna lose the hide

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Speaker 14: poier team one of them this year, and the other

901
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 14: shoe might possibly drop next year. Maybe get a safety

902
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Speaker 14: somewhere in there, and then if we lose the other

903
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Speaker 14: shoe to drop a safety next year. If we lose

904
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Speaker 14: both of them, and they'll be rookie deal, so we

905
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Speaker 14: won't have the pain unfortunate in amount. So we'll take

906
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Speaker 14: care of the injury problem maybe and the shoe drop problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying, Kevin. Unfortunately, what was

908
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: largely the anchor of this team ascending into playoff contender

909
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl contender status, those players are aging out now,

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Speaker 1: and I think that Tredevious White's career is Look, I'm

911
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Speaker 1: the last person to doubt Tredevious White being able to

912
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Speaker 1: come back from this injury. But yeah, the trajectory of

913
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: his career has unfortunately been altered by two major, major

914
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: lower body injuries that have compromised the better part of

915
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: his last two seasons. So the team has to think

916
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Speaker 1: differently as well, particularly because of the cap situation in

917
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Speaker 1: which they find themselves. And we just had Mike Janideon

918
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Speaker 1: who suggested, maybe you just tear up the contract, release him,

919
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: let him get healthy, and then say, look, get healthy,

920
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: we'll sign you to maybe a cap friendly two year deal.

921
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Speaker 1: Get back on the field. Make it incentive laden you know,

922
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Speaker 1: But that's part of this business. Playing this sport is

923
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Speaker 1: a battle of attrition, and sometimes injuries can derail your

924
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Speaker 1: career or keep you from being the player you know

925
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Speaker 1: you can be. And I realize that's hard to stomach,

926
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Speaker 1: but that's the situation that the Bills find themselves in

927
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Speaker 1: with Tradavius. And really, I don't think you need to

928
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Speaker 1: invest a high draft choice in a corner. And the

929
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Speaker 1: reason I say that is you already did Kyrie Elam

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Speaker 1: two years ago in the first round. He's only entering

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Speaker 1: his third season. You have Christian Benford, who's proven he's

932
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Speaker 1: a starting caliber corner in this league. And you have

933
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Speaker 1: Rasewuell Douglass under contract. You may have to tweak the

934
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Speaker 1: contract a little bit, but that's three players who, in

935
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Speaker 1: my estimation, are starting caliber and you can probably resign

936
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Speaker 1: Dan Jackson for affordable money. Now you've got four corners

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Speaker 1: off you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Trays a great dude.

939
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Speaker 2: We all love him and he was important to the

940
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Speaker 2: ascension of this club into the playoffs. He's been an

941
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Speaker 2: All pro at one of the elite He's been an

942
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Speaker 2: elite player at that spot. But if you're the general

943
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: manager of Brandon Bean, you have a responsibility to set

944
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Speaker 2: that aside for this coming year. It's about this coming year.

945
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Speaker 2: It's not about what Trey has been and how much

946
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: we like him and love and respect him.

947
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Speaker 1: It's about coming up.

948
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Speaker 2: This It's about this roster, and you got to put

949
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: it together with with with players who you're confident in

950
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Speaker 2: that will come back and play at a high level

951
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Speaker 2: or at least have a chance to play at a

952
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Speaker 2: high level. And for his for the least amount of

953
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Speaker 2: money you can manage, and that Trey is is doesn't

954
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Speaker 2: have two of those.

955
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Speaker 3: He's not.

956
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Speaker 2: You don't know how good he's gonna be when he

957
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: comes back. As much as he it's a bad injury,

958
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: and too, he's making a ton of money. That's a

959
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: bad spot to be in for a player. So and

960
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: and if you're Brandon Bean, you got to make a

961
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Speaker 2: tough decision. You got to either change the contract or

962
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: get off of it. That's that's a hard place to be,

963
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: and it's it's that's why Brandon Bean gets paid.

964
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Speaker 3: That's those are his decisions to execute.

965
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Speaker 2: And when it becomes when it becomes as obvious as

966
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Speaker 2: it is to you know, Kevin and Hamburg and Brownie

967
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Speaker 2: and the old guy here, you know something's gonna happen.

968
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to change it.

969
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Speaker 1: And then as for safety quickly, I think there will

970
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Speaker 1: be a priority put on trying to re sign Taylor Rap.

971
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Speaker 1: I still think he can be had for generally affordable money,

972
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Speaker 1: but it will be an increase. Micah Hyde has a

973
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Speaker 1: decision to make on whether he's even going to continue

974
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Speaker 1: his career. Unfortunately, I don't see that being here. This

975
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Speaker 1: is part of the youth movement we were discussing that

976
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean addressed yesterday. I think he falls into that

977
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Speaker 1: category and Poyer may as well, because it's no secret

978
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Speaker 1: that if you release him, he saves five million on

979
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: the cap for you. That's not chump change. That's money

980
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Speaker 1: you could put towards a younger player who's entering his

981
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Speaker 1: prime in Taylor Rap. You still have DeMar Hamlin under contract.

982
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Speaker 1: Cam Lewis is a free agent, so you've got some

983
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: decisions to make there, but I would not do it

984
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Speaker 1: in the form of a high draft choice. You have

985
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Speaker 1: more pressing positions like defensive tackle and wide receiver to

986
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: address on the first two days of the draft. To me,

987
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: there's no room for safety earlier than day three. Gotta

988
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Speaker 1: take a break here, But more of your phone calls

989
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: when we start our number two, along with comment highlights

990
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Speaker 1: from Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott's remarks yesterday in their

991
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Speaker 1: press conferences. We'll get to those when we return here.

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Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live presented by Told of Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio.

994
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: This these One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: All Right, our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown

996
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: Steve to asker with you and taking your phone calls.

997
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: At eighth three, five point fifty. We are discussing a busy,

998
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: busy offseason that awaits Brandon Bean in the personnel department,

999
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: along with the coaching staff as they make their recommendations

1000
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: and make some difficult business decisions. Spoke with Mike Jenitti,

1001
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Speaker 1: founder and managing editor of spot Track in the last

1002
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: hour about some of these tough decisions that could be

1003
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Speaker 1: coming down the pike where maybe some of these older

1004
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: players on the roster age out and they have to

1005
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: depend on youth considerably more this coming fall, and it

1006
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: can be interesting to see all the decisions that are

1007
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: made between now and essentially the end of May, because

1008
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: even around the end of May early June, Brandon Bean

1009
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: will strike with a free agent acquisition like Leonard Floyd.

1010
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: It's interesting too because we've been talking about the draft

1011
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: and whether they'll trade up, and you know what's gonna

1012
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: look like. They trade up a lot in the first round. Uh,

1013
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: they've got ten.

1014
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: Draft picks, six the four to sixth rounders.

1015
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: No, it's only three.

1016
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: Actually, this one's got spot Tracks.

1017
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Speaker 1: They only have ten, at least from what they got

1018
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and two two. So they got a first,

1019
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: a second, and they're expecting a third in the comp

1020
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: pick from Edmunds, then a four, a five, they get

1021
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: the five from Green Bay and the Rasul Douglas trade

1022
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: their own six, a six from the Rams, a six

1023
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: from Houston, and then a seven. I thought this is good.

1024
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: Left to double check. Yeah, we will.

1025
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: But anyway, a lot of late round picks.

1026
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: How about that five?

1027
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the unspot track. They've got eleven picks,

1028
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 3: not ten.

1029
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: I think it's only ten.

1030
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that any either way.

1031
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean mean, the interesting thing to me, and the

1032
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: reason I brought it up is if if they start

1033
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: getting through they like the combine and they start seeing

1034
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: guys they like, and they got and you know how

1035
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: it is, you go in, he.

1036
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 13: Gotta have gotta have that.

1037
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: We got to get that guy right.

1038
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean is begging the guy to run a

1039
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: slow time slides.

1040
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: Right, So then so he's gonna that's when you start

1041
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: seeing him. If it's a you can bet if there's

1042
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: somebody out there and they start moving in the draft

1043
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: before the draft starts, they've they've got somebody. They've got

1044
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the crosshairs on.

1045
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody, I get it. Uh, let's go to the

1046
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: phones at eight oh three oh five fifty. Got some

1047
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: open lines for you there, so chime in if you wish.

1048
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: But we go to Tony in a car next. What

1049
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: do you got for us, Tony?

1050
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 15: How are you today?

1051
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: Good?

1052
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 16: I know one of the callers earlier said that you

1053
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 16: guys are great therapists, and I can second that for sure. Guys,

1054
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 16: you really do help us. And you know, Steve, we

1055
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 16: know for a fact we've been to the Wars, you know,

1056
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 16: so you were you were there, Well, it was fun

1057
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 16: things for you, a couple of things for you to

1058
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 16: play here or play there. And I've got to play

1059
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 16: for you. And that would be two plays before the

1060
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 16: field goal kick where Allen went for Shakir in the

1061
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 16: end zone at digs underneath wide open where it could

1062
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 16: have easily dumped it off, was out of bounds. Maybe

1063
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 16: turns it up and fights. I mean, I don't know

1064
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 16: why you're looking for six at that time anyway, because

1065
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 16: there's still a lot of time left. I figured you'd

1066
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 16: want to bleed the clock down.

1067
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Speaker 2: You're looking for you're looking for six any time you

1068
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: can get it. Yeah, and as and as as good

1069
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: as the Mahomes had been that day, you take the points,

1070
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: you'll go up by four and they have to score

1071
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown then not a field goal to beat you.

1072
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: And it's just and plus you're not gonna it's asking

1073
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: a lot for a team to score on a drive

1074
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: when they got to have it. Now you're asking them

1075
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: not to score but score a certain way, and that's

1076
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: now you take the points. When you get particularly offensively,

1077
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: get me the touchdown. That's that's a that is a

1078
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's coaching not to lose.

1079
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: In an ideal world, you'd love to manage the clock

1080
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: perfectly and get the touchdown. But the ultimate priority is points.

1081
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: The whole name of the game is to score more

1082
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: points than the other team. So when a touchdown opportunity

1083
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: presents itself, you have to take it, especially in that

1084
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: situation because there's two minutes left in the game, it

1085
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: is very likely that that is your last possession of

1086
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: the game. So it's second and nine. If you don't

1087
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: get a first down, you got three plays left, and

1088
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: this is a golden opportunity to touchdown. You take the shot.

1089
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: Well, you got two plays left?

1090
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Deaf is you take the shot? But ye, well I

1091
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: was counting second and nine. You take the shot when

1092
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: you think it's there. What he didn't think was he

1093
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: was gonna get bumped as he threw the football. That's

1094
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: what he didn't think.

1095
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: That's that's a player we've seen Josh hit so and

1096
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: plus you know, yeah, you have to execute it. That's

1097
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, Dion has to know, he's got to you know,

1098
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: he's got to hold you know, Chris Jones off for

1099
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: a two tenths of a second longer, or Josh shuffles

1100
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: is fort Josh, Yeah, Josh just shuffles his feet and

1101
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: swerves in the pocket and gives himself some space. Either way,

1102
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff's going on. That's it's a

1103
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: hard leak to win in when you're talking about stuff

1104
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 2: like this. You knew this game was gonna come down

1105
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: to get plays like that. And and I'll say, just

1106
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 2: because I get it, you lose games like that because

1107
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: the other.

1108
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: Team's really good. You're really good too.

1109
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: And the fact that it always goes in favor of

1110
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: the other team in situations like that, you say always.

1111
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: The last three times these teams have played in the playoffs,

1112
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: it's gone the way of the Kansas City Chiefs. And

1113
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: and I know this too. Somehow, it's vastly different when

1114
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: it's in September October than it is in January, because

1115
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: whoever loses goes home. But it's the same thing. Sometimes

1116
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: it plays out in the bills favor, Sometimes it plays

1117
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 2: out in Kansas City's favor. So far on the last

1118
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: game of these seasons, it's played out in Kansas City's favor.

1119
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: In the first games of the seasons, it's fade out,

1120
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: played out in can't in Buffalo's favor. There's no you

1121
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: know whatever I mean, you got to play the game.

1122
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean, there's none of this. And I say it again,

1123
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: there ain't no hump to get over.

1124
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: Just you make that play.

1125
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: If you make that play, all of a sudden, the

1126
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: hump is in your rear view mirror. You know, you

1127
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: hit the kick. You got a chance to move on.

1128
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's you know, let's see if we can

1129
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: pull this game out. I'll say this again too. The

1130
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: sequences of this game closing out in the fourth quarter,

1131
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: coming down the stretch with a fake punt with all

1132
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: the stuff that excuse me, all the stuff that happened

1133
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: on subsequently, throwing it deep when they right out of

1134
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: the gate, when they get it back after the safety,

1135
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: the touch back, throwing it deep there, throw it, you know,

1136
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: coming out slinging it and going for the touchdown there

1137
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: on second nine. That to me is in stark contrast

1138
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: where this coaching staff was three years ago. They never

1139
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: made They did not turn their players loose to that

1140
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: level three years ago, and you could tell that was

1141
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: kind of part of the knock on McDermott. I think

1142
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: they're to a point now where they're not like they were.

1143
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: He's not coaching like he did. Maybe it's the defensive

1144
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: coordinatorship that you know he's got this year. Maybe he

1145
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: realizes that, you know, he can help more they I

1146
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: just I was really impressed. They didn't get the results,

1147
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: no question, but I do see a difference in the

1148
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: way their mindset that way I perceived their mindset coming

1149
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: down the stretch as a football team, they were gunning it.

1150
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: They weren't you know, they weren't backing off eight yards

1151
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: on a third and four, right. They were bringing it

1152
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: both offensively and defensively. So I'm I'm very optimistic. I

1153
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: really felt good about the way they gave the the

1154
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: players a chance to win it, instead of coaching so

1155
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: that hoping their players wouldn't make a mistake, taking their

1156
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: players out of the ability to make a mistake, you

1157
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1158
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: I just I saw a difference there.

1159
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: And while the result was you know, like we all say,

1160
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: we shug our shots, it was the same thing, the

1161
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: same Oldbiles it's not they They had a different mindset

1162
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: in the end of this game, and I was very

1163
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: encouraged by it, even though the result was, you know,

1164
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: devastating for us.

1165
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: All let's go to Mike in East Aurora next. What's up, Mike?

1166
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, Yeah, I was calling just you know, I

1167
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 9: really don't see it the same way that you and

1168
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 9: uh Steve who have been describing.

1169
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 7: It as.

1170
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 9: You know, a play here or play there. I mean,

1171
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 9: the defense got torched, and it's a pattern. It's not

1172
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 9: a one off thing. The Chiefs only had five third

1173
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 9: downs in the game on Sunday, they had five scoring

1174
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 9: drives and it would have been six if they didn't

1175
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 9: have that fumble, you know at the goal line, and

1176
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 9: you know the injuries. Yeah, but it's it's the coach's

1177
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 9: decision to sign a guy out of retirement and make

1178
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 9: him the captain of the defense when you're going against

1179
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 9: pad Mahomes. Yeah, and I think there was different options there.

1180
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 9: You know, we're not in that seat. But you're telling

1181
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 9: me about all the experience of these safeties. Why couldn't

1182
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 9: they call the defense? Why did you have to have

1183
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 9: a guy who was literally should have been you know,

1184
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 9: on a beach trying to cover Kelsey. And you know

1185
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 9: the other thing is we always hear about how the

1186
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 9: defense takes away Stefan Diggs. Did we take away Travis

1187
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 9: Kelsey when you're coming into that game? You know he

1188
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 9: is the number one target? Did they look like they

1189
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 9: took him away?

1190
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: They didn't do it successful?

1191
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, here's the first you're talking out of both sides

1192
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: of your mouth. I mean, you got you got a

1193
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: defense that's depleted. You got guys that you say should

1194
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: have been on a beach right or wrong decision, and

1195
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: you're and you're complaining that they don't have enough communication

1196
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: skills or enough practice to make sure they don't blow

1197
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: a coverage and leave the best tight end in the

1198
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: league in the corner. Like like you're telling me they

1199
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: designed a defense to leave Travis kelce completely uncovered. And

1200
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: I that's not true. I mean, that's that's ridiculous.

1201
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 9: Why didn't you just assign a guy man to press

1202
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 9: them at the.

1203
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: Long hold on? Let me address they did do that.

1204
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: They had Saran Neil assigned in the package on third

1205
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: downs to cover Travis Kelcey. But to your point, they

1206
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: only got the third down five times in the game. Now,

1207
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: if you want to argue that later in the game,

1208
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: they should have just put Saran Neil on Travis kelce

1209
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: whether it was first or second down, I'll listen to that.

1210
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: But there was a plan on third downs because I

1211
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: saw it. Saran Neil on the field covering Travis kelcey

1212
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: man to man jamming him at the line of scrimmage,

1213
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: and that's why they were only one for five on

1214
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: third down conversions that worked. You want to argue they

1215
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: should have used it more, I'll listen to that. I'll

1216
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: listen to that. And Mike, the biggest failure of the

1217
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: defensive effort on Sunday was upfront, the healthiest part of

1218
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: the team. The defensive line came up short in a

1219
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: big way. They could not stop the run and they

1220
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: did not get to Patrick Mahomes in the pass rush whatsoever.

1221
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: That was the biggest failure of the defensive effort on

1222
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: Sunday as I see it, because you can only expect

1223
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: so much out of your fifth and sixth linebackers in

1224
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: your depth chart starting, and your fourth and fifth corners

1225
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: outside starting in this football game against Patrick Mahomes.

1226
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: And I'll say this too, You're right, they did get

1227
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: the defense did get torched. But that's you're you're playing

1228
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: with practice squad guys and guys, and you can say

1229
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: what you want about you know, a J. Klein wouldn't

1230
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: have been in They would never put him in there

1231
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: if they hadn't thought he was the best option. There's

1232
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: guys on the you know, Williams talented, he's a really

1233
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: talented player.

1234
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: But it just so happened.

1235
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: You put the guy on the field and all of

1236
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: a sudden you got Travis Kelcey running down the field.

1237
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they're trying to keep away from.

1238
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: And that's it's not easy to go out there and

1239
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: just say, hey, you guard him, you guard him, you

1240
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: guard him, you guard him. It. I mean, it's a

1241
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: team game and you've got to be able to communicate

1242
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: and know your assignments. And that's job one of a

1243
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: coaching staff. So you get out there and I'm quite frankly,

1244
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: they're lucky they only had one guy one busted covery. Well,

1245
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: there's more than one because they threw it to Rashid

1246
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: Rice number early in the flat and there was nobody

1247
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: guarding him either, So they had a number of busted

1248
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: coverages and The only you know and the only explanation

1249
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: for it is the guys out there just they don't

1250
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: have enough rep They didn't they're they're not the guys

1251
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: you want out there.

1252
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's that simple.

1253
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you go into you're telling me injuries don't

1254
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: make a difference. Why does everybody think they do? Why

1255
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: does everybody else accept you think they do?

1256
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a battle of attrition. As we know,

1257
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: and as McDermott said yesterday, you want to be healthier

1258
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. Each of the last two years

1259
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: they have not been. They want to drill down on that,

1260
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: and I personally, I think part of the reason is

1261
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: they got to get younger. They're two years older than

1262
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: they were two years ago when they were the healthiest

1263
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs. And it's a lot of

1264
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: miles on some tires on this roster. I think it

1265
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: was in the top five or eight oldest teams in

1266
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: the league. And I think salary cap wise and just

1267
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: making tough decisions, they're going to have to get younger

1268
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: this year and they're going to be depending on a

1269
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: lot younger players, and that change might end up being

1270
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: for the better, and they might stay healthy or because

1271
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: of that. Let's get back to the phones and we're

1272
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: going to go to Mark in West senecon next what

1273
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: we got Mark?

1274
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, Hey, I called right at the end of

1275
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 17: the show yesterday and brought up the whole thing about

1276
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 17: the War of attrition with injuries, Yeah, possibly going to

1277
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 17: two buys and all that, and you guys, we didn't

1278
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 17: have enough time for you guys to hear your guys

1279
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 17: discussion about it. And you suggest that I call back

1280
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 17: and remind you today, so I wanted to do that,

1281
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 17: and I have a question and then a quick observation

1282
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 17: on the defense. My question is this, with the emergence

1283
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 17: of secure in the slot looking like the guy we

1284
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 17: don't want to take off the field pretty much most

1285
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 17: of the time, I'm curious how you guys think that

1286
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 17: may affect Kincaid moving forward, because when we draft the

1287
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 17: King Gaid, there was a lot of discussion about his

1288
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 17: ability to split off the line play in the slot.

1289
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 17: And does that mean do you think that that possibly

1290
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 17: means he might be even split out even wide now?

1291
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 17: And if that's the case, how does that in fact

1292
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 17: the wide receiver train and all that, not that they're

1293
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 17: not don't need them. I think they still need them.

1294
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 17: And then one quick observation about the defense and listening

1295
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 17: to the gentleman that was just talking because we don't

1296
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 17: we love those two guys so much, Poyer and Hyde.

1297
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 17: It's never brought up, but the days of them being

1298
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 17: able to compensate and cover up for a lot of

1299
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 17: things that went on in that defensive backfield and even

1300
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 17: up at the line of scrimmage and making tackles in

1301
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 17: the run game were long gone this year, and that

1302
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 17: should not be overlooked. Love those guys, their wall of famers, Okay,

1303
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 17: but the fact of the matter is, like you said,

1304
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 17: they're long in the tooth and they're well past their prime.

1305
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 17: So that's also another thing that needs to be talked

1306
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 17: about a little bit as to why they ended up

1307
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 17: so bad back there.

1308
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 3: Thanks yeah, thanks Mark.

1309
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: And to start out with the Khalil should here, Yeah,

1310
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: you're right, I think now at this point, I mean,

1311
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: you know, two days after the last game of the season,

1312
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 2: you think, well, Khalil should never come off the field,

1313
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: He should be out there all the time. And I

1314
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: think too, Kincaid is a guy out there people, you

1315
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: know you want him out there as much as possible

1316
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: as well because of his flexibility. And when you say,

1317
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: for instance, you split out a tight end out wide

1318
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: and the defense adjusts one way, meaning they leave the

1319
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: corner wide to guard the tight end, that means you've

1320
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: got a smaller shift your guy like Khalil Shakir on

1321
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: a bigger body inside like a linebacker. Now if they

1322
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: flip it and send the linebacker with the tight end

1323
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: and the corner inside, now you've got an outside corner

1324
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: playing like a slot corner, which is not his strength,

1325
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: and a big bodied outside guy and playing in space.

1326
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: So you can tell you yes, I think the bigger

1327
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: question isn't about what Kincaid's gonna do going forward. It's

1328
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: about what they're gonna do with Dawson Knox going forward.

1329
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: How does it?

1330
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: You know, if you're gonna go twelve personnel, that's one thing,

1331
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: but they're not going to do that all the time. Now,

1332
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: they got two guys, and you know you got there.

1333
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: There's only one football and so if you can unless

1334
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: you go twelve personnel or thirteen personnel, there's only room

1335
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: for one tight end. Which ones are gonna be? And

1336
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: why would you make this which one way or the

1337
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: other that's for the coach to design in a game plan.

1338
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: But that's what you're looking at. It's not more about

1339
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: Shakir at the slot. It's more about go.

1340
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: Double slots too, right, put them in each slot.

1341
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: Right, you can go four wide, off you go, you

1342
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: can split out four wide, so with a running back.

1343
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, all that's in the mix, and it gives

1344
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: you versatility. You want to be able to win going

1345
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: thirteen personnel, and you want to go you win playing

1346
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: ten personnel, all of it. So all of that's on

1347
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: the mix. Now for the eighteen game schedule, we got

1348
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. It's long been my assertion that

1349
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: the league is going to go to eighteen games. I

1350
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: think the perfect way to do it is not to

1351
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: add games on in February, January, February March.

1352
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: It's do it at the other end. Give the game.

1353
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: Give two preseason games and two weeks of pre two

1354
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: weeks of training camp, two preseason games, two regular season

1355
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: games right away, and then the entire league should take

1356
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 2: a break on Labor Day, so the training camp and

1357
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: everything start exactly the same place they do now. But

1358
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: you would have two regular season games in before Labor Day,

1359
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: then the national holiday Labor Day. Everybody gets a week

1360
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: bye week to kind of settle in after training camp,

1361
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: get their you know, get their legs under them. And

1362
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: now you start the league a regular sixteen game schedule

1363
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: with bye weeks worked into the schedule. As the season

1364
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: progresses like they do now, it'll be an eighteen game

1365
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: schedule with a full bye week for the entire league

1366
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: on Labor Day, and then the season progresses as it

1367
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: does now. I think that's the best way to do it.

1368
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: But that's just me talking. That's the tasker plan. By

1369
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: the way, I should I should get a T shirt

1370
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: with that on it. It is copyright, so it don't

1371
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: steal it is not coper copyright.

1372
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: Don't steal it.

1373
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: You're not going to get rich with it no matter what,

1374
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: because that's my idea. But and I'm not going to

1375
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: rich it with it either. But I think that's the

1376
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: way to do it. You start everything just like you do,

1377
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: and come on, two preseason games. Fine, they're not tackling

1378
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: or anything anyway, now, you know, so just you know,

1379
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: go with that. Two weeks of training camp, two weeks

1380
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: of preseason, two games, two regular season games, bye week

1381
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: on Labor Day weekend. There you go rest of the

1382
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: game sixteen game schedule with a bye week and sprinkled

1383
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: in as per usual.

1384
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: Let's go to Denny in Niagara Falls next. What's up Denny.

1385
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, I've been listening to you for a long time,

1386
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 15: and I respect to your opinion, but I you know what,

1387
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 15: I'm gonna be honest. With a twelve personnel thirteen personnel,

1388
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 15: they did get torched if player doesn't make the play.

1389
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 15: In my opinion, one of the best defensive plays I've

1390
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 15: ever seen in the playoffs. They put up thirty four points. Yes,

1391
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 15: the defense was getting torched. Yes there were injuries. Yes

1392
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 15: McDermott calls the play, so the buck stops with him.

1393
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 15: But the way I play that game is is almost

1394
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 15: like when you're trying to get a few more yards

1395
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 15: for a field goal to get closer. I'm not sitting

1396
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 15: there saying go for the field goal. What I'm sitting

1397
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 15: there saying is maybe play at twelve personnel. None of

1398
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 15: your routes it have been more than maybe five ten

1399
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 15: yard hooks, maybe five yard slants until you got to

1400
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 15: like maybe the twenty fifteen yard line, and then if

1401
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 15: you have three shots to get it in the end zone.

1402
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 15: Make them deplete all their timeouts, because listen, you've got

1403
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 15: Mahomes on the other side. Only guy I said to

1404
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 15: my brother in law, well, I'm watching the game. I

1405
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 15: want to score a touchdown, but I don't want to

1406
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 15: score it right away because the other guy on the

1407
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 15: other sideline, the only guy that I feared more was Brady.

1408
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 15: And I'll be honest with you, if you gotten close

1409
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,839
Speaker 15: enough to hit a chip shot, this poor kid got torched.

1410
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 15: You know, t Bass got torched by these trolls, these jackasses.

1411
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 15: Okay because of what Because he missed a forty four

1412
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 15: yarder and the swirling wind. I mean, anybody knows that stadium,

1413
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 15: knows what it's like down there. You saw his one

1414
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 15: kick earlier that that barely made it through. My thing

1415
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 15: is is get it as close as you can. Take

1416
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 15: three shots in the end zone. If we win and

1417
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 15: we leave them six seconds on the clock and we

1418
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 15: squib it, we might win that game with the home field.

1419
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: Danny, what about this? Okay, So let's say, and I

1420
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: get it. I'm totally with you. You play. You gotta get

1421
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: a first you'd love to get a first down right there.

1422
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: Even if you don't get the touchdown. When Josh went

1423
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: for the end zone, right, But here's the thing to Danny,

1424
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: what would you have done here? Here's the real question.

1425
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: He hits Digs on that crossing route on second and

1426
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: nine when he went for the end zone. You know

1427
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: what happens if he hits Digs, Diggs gets tackled.

1428
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 3: Now it's fourth and two.

1429
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: Well it's third and it's third.

1430
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: What if it ends up.

1431
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 15: Fourth and there was second down on that play?

1432
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: But what if it ends up fourth and two? They

1433
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: get second and they get third and two and get

1434
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: another incompletion. Now it's fourth and two.

1435
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1436
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 15: What do I do? Me personally? I go for it

1437
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 15: and show some hoot spot, you know, just like Campbell

1438
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 15: has been doing all year. Yeah, but if he chose

1439
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 15: to kick it, I don't think anybody would have got mad.

1440
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 15: But ten yards closer that might have been the difference

1441
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 15: of that all squeaking through the upright or missing by

1442
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 15: ten yards or not ten yards, but probably like seven

1443
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 15: yards for the right. My personal opinion that you got

1444
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 15: Mahomes on the other sideline, if that was Tanny Hill

1445
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 15: or anybody else, you know, And I'll be honest with you.

1446
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 15: They've been torching Allen all week on other networks, and

1447
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 15: I hope that if Lamar loses to Mahomes this week,

1448
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 15: are they going to be hypocritical and be like, oh, well,

1449
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 15: Lamar's guy, the MVPs this guy. I mean, let's let's

1450
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 15: just call it what it is. I mean, and I've

1451
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 15: been the Digs defender all year long, and people are like,

1452
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 15: oh his attitude. I said, listen, the guy's a competitor.

1453
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 15: But that ball was right in his hands. Surefield had

1454
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 15: to make an adjustment, definitely a catchable ball. But what

1455
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 15: what else do you want Alan to do?

1456
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he needs more help, Dady.

1457
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1458
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need more help.

1459
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: You don't have to defend Josh josh Is. I mean,

1460
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: I mean we're you need your preach of the choir.

1461
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: It's obvious everybody. And when you're gonna beat, if you're

1462
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: gonna beat a guy like Mahomes, the margin of era,

1463
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: we all see it. We all know who Mahomes is.

1464
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: We've seen it a ton. They're playing in their sixth

1465
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: conference championship game this in a row, sixth in a row,

1466
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: so we all know who Mahomes is and you've got it.

1467
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 3: Everybody, not just Josh.

1468
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: Everybody has to play their best to beat that team

1469
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: so that you know, and they didn't get it done.

1470
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: And it's always gonna come down to even the games

1471
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: they win against this team, except for the one where

1472
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: they went in there after the and they beat them

1473
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: by by sixteen points. They did it at one time

1474
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. But you're gonna go in, there's gonna

1475
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 2: be a single procession game and you're gonna have come

1476
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: down to the the second and nine play where they

1477
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: went for the end zone, didn't get it and they

1478
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: had a way. You know, they're gonna That's what it's

1479
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: gonna come down to. So you can spend the entire

1480
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: offseason dissecting that one game spot where you think it

1481
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: could have done it made the game or not, you know,

1482
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: but the simple fact of the matter is you got

1483
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: to play well throughout that game. You were you had

1484
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: a practice on a I'm just exaggerating, but you get

1485
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: a practice squad defense playing against Pat Mahomes and it's

1486
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: gonna look like that. It is exactly what that is,

1487
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: exactly what it's gonna look. If you're not gonna get

1488
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes off the field unless he screws it up.

1489
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: And even despite the fact that you did not have

1490
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 1: three explosive hit due to drop passes two by Sherfield,

1491
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: one by Digs, you still put up three hundred and

1492
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards on the number two defense in football.

1493
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: It was the most yards they had given up all season.

1494
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 1: You did not play a bad game offensively. You played

1495
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: poorly on defense and uneven on special teams and that's

1496
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: the difference. And you didn't execute enough on offense on

1497
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: the explosives.

1498
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 2: Right, And that's you know, So that's that's where you're

1499
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: gonna ge. That's where you're gonna can't play one phase

1500
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: of football and be thinking about think about where the

1501
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: Chiefs would be right now. If the kick goes through,

1502
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: all your hopes and dreams come to you, you go down,

1503
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: You go down, and you win the game somehow, or

1504
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: they convert on the third second and nine on to

1505
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: the first time you go down, you score a touchdown

1506
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: with zero point zero zero on the clock, right, so

1507
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: you win the game. What would the Chiefs be saying?

1508
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: Exactly about what the Bills did. They scorched the Bills defense,

1509
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: They couldn't get the Bills, the number two defense in

1510
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: the league couldn't get the Bills off the field. They

1511
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: had thirty eight minutes of time of possession. It would

1512
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: have been thirty nine or forty had the Bills hung

1513
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: on to it and scored with that last minute. I mean,

1514
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs would be sitting there right where the Bills

1515
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: are today. But the kick goes wide, the game ends,

1516
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: you don't have enough points to you know, your three

1517
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: point loss. That's where you're going to live with these

1518
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: two teams.

1519
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

1520
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: what are the prospects for Joe Brady in terms of

1521
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: landing the offensive coordinator role permanently. We'll hear from Sean

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Being on that subject when we return

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01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 13: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: Okay. As we said before the break, one of the

1526
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: initial decisions they will have to make concerns the coaching

1527
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 1: staff and the fate of interim offensive coordinator Joe Brady.

1528
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,799
Speaker 1: As we know, he was interviewed remotely for the Falcons

1529
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: head coaching job last week, and decision has to be

1530
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: made here as to whether he's going to become the

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 1: permanent offensive coordinator of the Bills going forward. Both Brandon

1532
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott addressed this subject. Here is Brandon

1533
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: Bean's comments on Brady's candidacy for the permanent job.

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 6: I thought Joe did a really good job.

1535
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,440
Speaker 5: You know, we obviously have to go through that internally

1536
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 5: here and we're working on, you know, all those internal

1537
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 5: things here between Shawn and myself and and Terry.

1538
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 6: So we'll work through that.

1539
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 5: But you know, it's it's not easy mid season because,

1540
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 5: like anything, if Brian Gain comes over and takes over

1541
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 5: as GM, he may like some of the things I do,

1542
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 5: but that he may want to do a twist on

1543
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 5: a few things mid season. That's kind of hard to do.

1544
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 5: It'd almost be like mid draft Terry fires me. Hopefully

1545
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 5: didn't do it mid draft, but mid draft, and then

1546
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 5: Gain taken over, like, well, the board's been set, you're

1547
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 5: kind of just dealing with it.

1548
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 6: And so.

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 5: To do that midstream, I think, you know, I think

1550
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,480
Speaker 5: Joe did a really good job and deserves serious consideration

1551
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 5: for this job.

1552
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: So serious consideration for the job based on what he did.

1553
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: And Steve, I thought that was an important point to make.

1554
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: You can't put your own stamp on a team's offense

1555
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: when you're working with the predecessor's playbook. There are things

1556
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: you can incorporate or utilize more, but in terms of

1557
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: wholesale changes or things like that, Joe Brady was not

1558
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: in that position. That's why yesterday I was using word triage.

1559
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: He was triaging the offense for the rest of the season.

1560
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: And even despite those limitations, he did make it better.

1561
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Yeah, the most you can do is

1562
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: more this, less of that, more personnel, more like more twelve,

1563
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 2: more running. I'm using that as example. I'm not saying

1564
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: that's what happened. I'm just saying that's right.

1565
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 3: That's about it.

1566
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: That's his limitations. Now, there are certain game plan things

1567
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: he could put in, Like he could put in some

1568
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: wrinkles and things like that into the game plan, and

1569
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: certainly probably did that. But yeah, it's you're starting with

1570
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: the house is fully formed and working right now, so

1571
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 2: you and you got to get to the end of

1572
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: the you know, the end of the season with everything

1573
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: like it is, and then you know, what can you do?

1574
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: Open the door here, close a window there, change the draperies, right, Yeah,

1575
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's what Jack you and the carpet, Yeah you.

1576
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they needed needed to tear it

1577
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: down to the you know, to the foundations anyway. But yeah,

1578
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: it's interesting. And we mentioned this on Monday right after

1579
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: the show, like like they're gonna have to have some long,

1580
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: serious and they probably have long serious conversations with Joe

1581
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: Brady about what he thinks about the offense, where it

1582
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: is headed, what he wants.

1583
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 1: To do, how much he would change, what's.

1584
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: His perfect world look like with this offense? Yeah, and

1585
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: for the how does that job with you know, what

1586
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: he's gotten personnel that's going to be changed, which is

1587
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: obvious on the horizon, so it'll be that's Those are

1588
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: interesting conversations that we have no idea how those go,

1589
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: but they've got to take place and those are going

1590
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: to tell you a lot about what's next.

1591
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And for those that don't know Joe Brady's background

1592
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: exceptionally well, he comes from the Sean Payton coaching tree

1593
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: in terms of offensive system, so whether he would be

1594
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: interested in incorporating more of that into what Buffalo does

1595
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: offensively is obviously part of the conversation that will need

1596
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: to be had here in the coming days. So you

1597
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: heard Brandon Bean's take on the job Joe Brady did

1598
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: as interim offensive coordinator. Here is the head coach, Sean

1599
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: McDermott on the job Joe Brady performed after being promoted

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01:21:58,840 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: to that role.

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 11: That'll happen in due time with respect to what we

1602
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 11: do with that position, you know, evaluating that position as

1603
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 11: well as others, like as natural this time of year.

1604
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 11: And then but to your question specific to Joe, I

1605
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 11: thought Joe did a really nice job right coming in

1606
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 11: and building great communication, collaboration, a vibe with with Josh

1607
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 11: and and then I think he saw the results of

1608
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 11: that through the course of I believe it was six games,

1609
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 11: and so I thought he I thought he did a

1610
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 11: very very nice job in that regard.

1611
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: So if you remember the comments that Sean McDermott made

1612
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: when he made the change from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady,

1613
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: he was asked why now, why this change at this

1614
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: point in the season, and he said, we just needed

1615
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: a different energy in that offensive coordinator role. And then

1616
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: you heard coach McDermott addressed the vibe that Brady was

1617
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: able to establish with Josh and We've heard some other

1618
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: comments from players who basically said, ultra positive fully trusted

1619
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 1: us to make plays, put us in position because he

1620
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: impressed upon us that he trusts us, and that's why

1621
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: he's calling this player. That player has this game plan

1622
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: in place. So it sounded like there was some resolute

1623
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: positivity in terms of energy, maybe more than anything else

1624
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: that Brady gave them at an age thirty four, probably

1625
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: relates to the players better younger guy, that kind of thing.

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01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: It's interesting too because I remember back thinking, you have

1627
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: coaches that coach where and the way they even the

1628
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: way they present plays means something to how the players

1629
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: feel about it. And so you got a coach and

1630
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: think about it. Coach comes in says, listen, we're we

1631
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: think they're gonna do this, so we're gonna try and

1632
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: we're gonna run this play because we think they're going

1633
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: to do this. We're afraid if we do this, they're

1634
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 2: gonna you know, they're gonna hit us right here. This

1635
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: kind of thing, or or saying listen, we're gonna run

1636
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: this play because we're gonna beat them right here. This

1637
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: is where we're gonna get them, and you guys get

1638
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, I trust you to do this. We're better

1639
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: than you. Our guy here is better than their guy there.

1640
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna run this play and do it. So the

1641
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: way it's presented and is is important. You present it

1642
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: in a in a way that's reactionary or a fearful

1643
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: of what might happen if you if you do don't

1644
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: run it, or if you you know, if what the

1645
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: defense is going to do, or if you feel it,

1646
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: if you're presented in a way that we're gonna attack

1647
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: them right here, and we're gonna do it, and you're

1648
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: gonna because we think we've got better guys here that

1649
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: it's just a completely different mindset. And that energy permeates

1650
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 2: every everything they say about their plays, about the installation,

1651
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: about the game plan, about the matchups that they're gonna have,

1652
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: and it permeates the whole offense. So when he says,

1653
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of got it, when he said

1654
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: they needed a new energy, it made some sense to

1655
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 2: me and I and I get it. And coaching is teaching,

1656
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: and it's it's total body teaching. Right, It's not just

1657
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: sitting down and writing stuff down a paper, putting it

1658
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: into a keyboard.

1659
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 3: You got to go out there and act.

1660
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 2: On it and do and physically move somebody and compete

1661
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: against someone. So you need that energy, that positive energy

1662
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: about somebody trusting you to get it done when you're

1663
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 2: looking at another guy who's going to try and keep

1664
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: you from doing that. There's a lot of emotion in that.

1665
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: And that finger quotes energy. It's a little esoteric for

1666
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and maybe that'll give you an

1667
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: idea of why it's important.

1668
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real thing that puts players in the

1669
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: right mind frame to go execute and win. Brandon Bean

1670
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: was also asked about finding some help to take some

1671
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: of the pressure off of Diggs. As we know, Diggs's

1672
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: production tailed off in the second half of the year

1673
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: for the second straight season. How do they go about

1674
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: changing that? And one of the suggestions was finding another

1675
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: receiver to take pressure off of Diggs. Here's Brandon Bean

1676
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: on that subject.

1677
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 5: I mean, we're again, we're always looking for various players,

1678
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 5: whether it was we're always looking for mismatches. And I

1679
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 5: said that when we drafted Dalton, you know, when we

1680
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 5: brought Cook here, you know, trying to find various mismatches. So, yes,

1681
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 5: any guy that causes the defense that you can put

1682
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 5: them in a look and get them in a you

1683
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 5: know where you can dictate to them. And if that's

1684
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 5: you know, another receiver to offset Steph or whoever else, yes,

1685
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 5: we would. We wouldn't hesitate to do that.

1686
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: The situation that has to be decided upon though, in

1687
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: terms of their offseason plan, is where is that talent acquired?

1688
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: And odds are it is going to be the draft.

1689
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: As we know, the receiver is one of the highest

1690
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: priced positions in football, and the Bills don't have the

1691
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: cap space to make that work. I think it would

1692
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: it would take up too many cap dollars to make

1693
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: that a feasible proposition. So odds are Bills are going

1694
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: to have to get a receiver, maybe two early in

1695
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: this draft, somebody who's ready to step in and fill

1696
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: a role immediately as a rookie similar to that of

1697
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: Dalton k and Kpe. We got to take a break here,

1698
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Steve and I will wrap things up when we come

1699
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: back on one. Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health.

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here, I want

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01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 1: Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Taskie, Let's quickly go to

1702
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Pat and cheek Diwaga who has some cap solving problems.

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01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brownie, great show. But yeah, I agree with you

1704
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 4: about the receivers. I thought last year we should have

1705
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 4: done that all the year before. The previous caller about

1706
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 4: the safeties, again, we know those guys are both great

1707
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 4: and Wall of famers in our town, but it's time

1708
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 4: for them to go defensive. Line's got to get younger,

1709
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: which it will because you're going to get rid of

1710
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 4: some of these guys. So yeah, I mean it's out there.

1711
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna be okay. You know, most of the France

1712
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 4: has got to relax a little bit. But uh, mister Tasker,

1713
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 4: I got to diggle your memory a little bit here.

1714
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 4: Thirty six years ago, Deacon Blue.

1715
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 10: Yes, and uh, I was in the same.

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01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 4: Lamb's class with you, and you took me for a

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01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 4: tour of the stadium. I do want to let you

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01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: know never forgot it. I'll tell people about you because

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 4: that's a life Uh, you know day that I'll never

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 4: forget what you did for me to meet me at

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01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 4: the stadium and taking me to the stadium that day.

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Nice.

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01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that.

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 3: I do not, but I'm glad that you do. I'm

1725
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 3: glad that you do.

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: I I've given a few tours of the stadium once

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: in a while, and yeah, that's good. Yes that is yeah,

1728
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: I know exactly and I can tell me. But he's

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: still there back.

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01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: No, we had to let him go because we're up

1731
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: against the clock. You're sorry.

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: What the what his kid's name was?

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yes, and Steve because my mind's.

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01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: Grown up and has four of his own.

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01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, pretty cool. One last thing, in case

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01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: you didn't know this, The game on CBS Bill's Chiefs

1737
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: on Sunday set a record for more than fifty million viewers,

1738
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,480
Speaker 1: the first time ever an NFL Divisional playoff game surpassed

1739
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: fifty million viewers. It peaked at fifty six million. It

1740
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: is the most watched program on any network since last

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl. That's amazing. That's it for us today. No,

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me either. Mames and Alan Dryeballs, we'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow at one