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Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Harvard Blast.

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Speaker 1: Decision that wasn't bed Do like it. It was good.

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Speaker 3: He got the infliction of you know, the hazard up

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Speaker 3: and down the bit I'm gonna say up and down,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, bitch, I just rode Dick fo days

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Speaker 1: Walk. Oh, I definitely felt like I got hit by

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Speaker 3: You know in Figure Mandy b a a ful cor

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Speaker 4: Bitch and what's up, y'all, I'm weazy, welcome back to

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Speaker 4: another episode. We're so happy to be in the studio together. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you guys know we're on tour. Please check out our

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Speaker 4: tour dates for the Climax tour. This is really important

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Speaker 4: to us because it's our final tour and it's an

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Speaker 4: into it. And what I really was going to propose.

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Speaker 1: Was you should do your masturbation on one of the

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Speaker 1: damn Oh my god. Wow. If you're joined today by

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Speaker 1: Hazel Grace, you know I'm actually touring this year too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I wait, Actually I'm just touring

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Speaker 1: the United States. Connect I told you I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: boyfriends in every city I need like one in every

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Speaker 1: So I'm touring because you never know who you'll find

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Speaker 1: right her. You could just swipe on the internet, but

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Speaker 1: see a city and then I have a membership to

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Speaker 1: this high end like site for like men of a

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Speaker 1: you're in their sit Like I know, I can tell

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the d I'll give we know, something

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Speaker 1: like that. Okay, we'll be noticed that right, okay, but

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Speaker 3: Is this site where you can be on there and

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Speaker 3: it's not necessarily like you're on there for sex because

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Speaker 1: It's like speaking arrangement, but like with the Arrow's clientele.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, can you curious? I don't want to clock

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, can you not say the site

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Speaker 4: or you're worried the site for multiple reasons?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple reasons, I'm singing. I wanna I was definitely

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Speaker 1: to be not for me? Talk your ship? Yeah? And

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I am Hazel Grace.

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Speaker 1: I am an adult actress. I've been doing porn for

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Speaker 1: like five years. I started in melanin about three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Like I saw one of those you know, the half people,

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Speaker 1: They're almost more bothered than you probably are a white husband.

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Speaker 1: relationship as a lover where you're just like Pillow talking

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Speaker 4: Now telling me one of the craziest things I've heard

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Speaker 4: we just laughed about how dating sucks. He's like, girl,

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Speaker 4: And he was like, he was always funny, great, He's like,

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Speaker 1: Have y'all heard this before? I already don't like the joke.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, my mouth is like all our mouths

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Speaker 4: And he goes, I said, and how does a white

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Speaker 1: That's not the funny of our guys go back. I

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Speaker 4: It's crazy because he said, and you were saying your

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy because like I can only have white

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have people that I've worked with that

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Speaker 4: I'm meeting black people that's sucking into it. Whether it's

431
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,439
Speaker 4: like galleries fucking going to a music festival.

432
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 1: That's back to what you were saying. Everybody, like every

433
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend in my life brings something different and they like

434
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,119
Speaker 1: something different. Like I had one from Colorado that like

435
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,480
Speaker 1: I feel like the only like he was hot as fuck,

436
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 1: but the only other thing. Like it took me a

437
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 1: long time because we actually just kind of split ways

438
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,880
Speaker 1: to realize what I was getting out of that relationship.

439
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 1: Why am I doing? Do I not want to leave?

440
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 1: And it was because like we could talk for hours

441
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,960
Speaker 1: and hours about politics. Nobody else in my life wants

442
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 1: to talk about that. Nobody else like and so that

443
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 1: alone you being hot and me being having that connection

444
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 1: to you, when all my other boyfriends are great and

445
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 1: they provide for me in so many different ways, but

446
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: it's like they don't want to talk about that shit.

447
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 3: As soon as I start talking, they shut down. So

448
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 3: you're you're married, How are you How do you get

449
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 3: to the point where a time, well not only time

450
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 3: you're meeting, you're meeting these people. How do they become

451
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 3: your boyfriend? And how are you meeting them out outside.

452
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,800
Speaker 1: Of South Yeah? How I usually tend to meet them.

453
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 1: And then like it'll go from there, like and what

454
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 1: is that sponsor on there? I met my sponsor on there,

455
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: And it started as just like, well, he's my boyfriend.

456
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Now I don't want to doesn't well he does sponsor

457
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 1: my Like he's my boyfriend, but I call my sponsor

458
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: because he is like legitimately sponsoring my company right now

459
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 1: and investing in my brand and so but he's my boyfriend.

460
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,880
Speaker 1: And it started as sort of like, Okay, we'll see

461
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 1: each other when we see each other type of thing,

462
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of grew to like I

463
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 1: want to be able to see you whenever I can.

464
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: What can I do to take stress off of your

465
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: plate to make sure that I can see you whenever.

466
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 4: He's so different for you when you're on the site,

467
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 4: like seeking arrangement. To me, was this like exchange like money, beauty, power,

468
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 4: my time? How does boyfriend become the word that becomes

469
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 4: like that's a natural thing for me.

470
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 1: I have to meet you first, Like I'm never just

471
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna know off of talking to you from the internet.

472
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 1: We got to go boyfriend over a sponsor or sugar daddy.

473
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 1: How did they get the title boyfriend when they lose

474
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: their budget? I think, like when I realize that you're

475
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: one him without a financial exchange? Right? No, no, no,

476
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna take care of everything I need, Like

477
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 1: there's a financial exchange, but it's not because what we

478
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: have going on that's not giving me something or contributing

479
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: to my lifestyle or my company or my brand in

480
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. That's a waste of my

481
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 1: mind in some way, shape or form. It's not always

482
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: exchanging of money, but like my DC Bay, right, I'm

483
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: not going to pay for a trip that's taking out

484
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: away from my company and taking away from my time.

485
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: My brand. But if you're like, hey, let's go to

486
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 1: Austin next weekend and you don't have to pay for anything,

487
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: bring your work so you can also get work done,

488
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to take that track for it. Some guy

489
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: that's just like, oh, let's let you do have to

490
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 1: work and me do have the work so that we

491
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: can come together. Like no, that's you know, no, no,

492
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: you need if you want to see me, make it happen.

493
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: So he's there's no exchanging of money there. He's not

494
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: paying me. But at the same time, I'm not going

495
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: to pay for anything. Some of his little military boosts.

496
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: But if y'all are watch on YouTube YouTube dot com.

497
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: He loves black women, but he always complains that he

498
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: has a hard time, like like I was easy for him.

499
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: Every other black girl is like a lot. It's hard

500
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 1: for him to get. Why what type of white he's quiet?

501
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: Give me a celebrity, Oh, celebrity. I'm not good with celebrities.

502
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: I know none of them. Sorry, because you know there's

503
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: definitent type of white boys. Try to chill someone you

504
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: can have. Give me some names. Yeah, I might know,

505
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: you know Ryan Gosling kind of white. Like try he's

506
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: just like one of those chill like we were talking

507
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: about Young Miami's episode, her type of nigga. That's my

508
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: my man, Like my husband is like low kia black

509
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: dude from them, Like don't just chill back in the

510
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: corner and then let me give you me Like yeah,

511
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: like right, he's just one of those people.

512
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 4: So he got some military But so do you feel

513
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 4: like there's ever this point where you're like, maybe my

514
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 4: life is so much more than what back home was.

515
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: Do you ever feel like the boyfriend's the glam, the

516
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 4: glip c l A, the trip. Do you ever feel

517
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 4: a little guilty?

518
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: Do you ever have black kilts? I not black kilts.

519
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm joking, but I like you'd be like, damn, like

520
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing all of this shit, and I I definitely

521
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: do because I have a huge family. I've got like

522
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: so many sisters. I've got like fourteen fifteen nieces and

523
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: nephews that are just like under fifteen. No, I mean

524
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: you've got your relationship. Oh in my relationship, you mean

525
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: like I don't understand what you mean by if they're

526
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: going to have a time for a vacation. You work

527
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: a lot, right, so he's ex vacations too, he went,

528
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: he went out of the country. Do you ever feel

529
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: guilty that, like you're doing it with someone health Okay,

530
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: I see what you mean. Yeah, so okay, Yes, There's

531
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: been times like my first time ever in New York

532
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: was with a boyfriend and I'm like, okay, that's like

533
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: my husband. We grew up in the middle of nowhere,

534
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: your first time in the big city. I felt bad,

535
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he was deployed, like there

536
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: was nothing that even if he wanted to go yeployment,

537
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: he didn't want me to stop living my life because

538
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: of reeling going on. That's really and I did feel

539
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: bad and I expressed that to him, and he's like,

540
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: We're going to take a trip to New York and

541
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: you're going to show me all the things that you saw.

542
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: And it's like you said, you have a deal your

543
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: family about this. Is there any Is there any?

544
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: I don't want to use the word jealousy, but in

545
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: my early twenties, the way that my relationships with men

546
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: was way different than my sisters, and there would be

547
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: times that my family members, my my sister, my dad,

548
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: and other people would expect me to ask a man

549
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: for money to give it to them like to give

550
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: it to them, yes, because they needed it. And when

551
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: I would be like, I don't have it, they'd be like,

552
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: well just ask so and so. I know, yeah, because

553
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: he can get it, he'll because you can give it,

554
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: he'll give.

555
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: It to you. I have met people like that. I'm

556
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: so lucky and blessed. My family is okay like that,

557
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: But I've had girlfriends that I've had to cut off

558
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: because you think, I'm sorry, but I'm sucking this man's

559
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: take that money is for like just because it doesn't

560
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: mean he's going to do anything for you. Like that's

561
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: just like honestly boldest fuck of you to assume that

562
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: my relationship just because he'll do anything for me in

563
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: this relationship means now I have to right like how

564
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: it works. And I just like, yeah, yeah, I've had that.

565
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: That's why I was. I was curious. I did want

566
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: to get into our vanilla ship because I do want

567
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: to say though, may he rest in peace, But that

568
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: very first boyfriend that we talked about, we were together

569
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: for four and a half years. He got He single

570
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: handedly got me where I am in this in this career.

571
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: He started everything for me, helped me and my husband

572
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: when we first move because the military ain't ship, we

573
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: had to actually pay for everything to get over to California,

574
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: and he took care of all of that. He paid

575
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: for a wedding, wedding. Another man paid for you to

576
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: move cross pat my wedding. He paid for my wedding.

577
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: I said, not only that, weasy. He paid for my wedding,

578
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: thousand and thousand thousand dollars, paid for my sister's dresses,

579
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: all my bar everything that we needed that they couldn't afford,

580
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: we took care of. And then on top of that,

581
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: showed up at my house on my wedding day with

582
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars in cash and I was like, this

583
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: is your wedding gifts. And I was like, you don't

584
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: have to give me a wedding. He's like, no, where's Carson.

585
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: This is your wedding. Your boyfriend paid for you and

586
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: your husband's were getting married. He was al married, he

587
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: was married with two kids too. It's not like he

588
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: was like wanting to marry me, Like, yeah, I'm not

589
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm living life. But then I say that

590
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: to say he met my family, my mom, my sister,

591
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: is like after a while, like he knew them. But

592
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: at the same time, my family's just not like that.

593
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: They weren't wouldn't go to him and ask for money,

594
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: even though they knew our relationship and knew like how

595
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: we started and everything like that, Like they just knew,

596
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: like this man is an important part of my life

597
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: and so and he's doing everything for my sister to

598
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: help her, okay, And I just feel like my family's

599
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: not jealous her. We not doing is it right now?

600
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: And this is like actually a joke and serious question.

601
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 1: It can't just be the sex. So do you can?

602
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: I just say that the best relationships happened organically. Like

603
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: I said, he walked into the store. I didn't do anything,

604
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: that's right. I didn't do anything. He just kind of

605
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: fout me payroll that I told you about. I met

606
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: him when I was a bartender in Apple.

607
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm talking about how you're getting the things you're getting

608
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: because that's the thing that right meeting them, I don't

609
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 4: really think.

610
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: But at that point, easy, I think probably the issue

611
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: you're running into is something that I ran into too,

612
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: is that you're too no no, no, I'm not. I'm

613
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: straight okay, everybody everybody else. So the issue that some

614
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: people run into is being too nice, not knowing what

615
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: to ask for when to ask for it. You have

616
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: to know what you want in that relationship and you

617
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: have to stay on your ground. And what about the

618
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: timing you said, when to ask when to ask for

619
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: you come out the back when? Which bitch when? I

620
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: think it depends on the situation, because like with him,

621
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: it didn't take me long for me to lock him

622
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: into so much money per month. Like, let's not because

623
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't like talking about finances. I think that's another

624
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: easy way for me, Like it isn't about that early

625
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: on or when I get to that point. I'm gonna

626
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: let you know what I expect from you monthly so

627
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: that we don't have to talk about this money thing. Right,

628
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: these are my things that I need and this is

629
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: what I want from you, and I'm gonna be asking

630
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: for things throughout the month. You talk about that, well,

631
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: you should never do it for like if you so,

632
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: My friend Lacy London has a rule, right, and it's

633
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: like reship. How the relationship starts is how the relationship

634
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: ends come a period period. So if it started as

635
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, it ends as a boyfriends. It starts as

636
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: a sugared situation. It's always going to have that aspect,

637
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: whether it goes into me having feelings for you or not.

638
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: How it starts is how it ends, because when you

639
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: allow me gets to switch it up, that's when it

640
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: gets confusing, and that's when they think they can like

641
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: change things or take advantage of things. Right, So if

642
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: this is how it started, this will always be an

643
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: aspect of it starts fucked up and ends fucked up.

644
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: That's true too. This is also true because if it starts,

645
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: if it starts with you just having sex with him

646
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: with no expectations, two weeks later, you can't come and

647
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: you can't you can't come asking for ship for the

648
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: same thing that you just did for free. So off

649
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: the rip. You need to let them know what your

650
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: expectations are and then go from there, and you have

651
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: to change exactly the most know what you want before

652
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: you go into that. I don't think women know that.

653
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: I don't think women know that their leverage stands before

654
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: they open their legs, because it doesn't matter how great

655
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: you subject, It doesn't matter how what your pussy is,

656
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: how how it grips the dick, babe. And if you

657
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: could take a dick in your boot hole the same

658
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: way you do your pussy. Doesn't matter all the tricks

659
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: that you have. Your leverage is still the chase and

660
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: what this man is yearning for. And so I agree

661
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: with stetdying. The tone of whatever relationship immediately is up

662
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: the gate.

663
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: So the wind is more and more and more, like

664
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: because I know you'll do this for one date, then like, okay,

665
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: you want to see me whatever you want this month.

666
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: I know how much you pay for that.

667
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: Now what do you think that you're able to do

668
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: that when because you met the other person who said

669
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 4: he walked in the store at the time met my

670
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: sugar do basically they came into our job, very regular jobs.

671
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: So when that happens, that's to me a little bit

672
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: more difficult than being on a site.

673
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Being on a site, it should be easy. You should

674
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: know what you want and you should like have a template,

675
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: like so no back to my friend lazy, because this

676
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: is my bitch, man, this is my bitch. So she's

677
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: the penthouse pet shout out, but no, like we're two

678
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: different people. Like she takes calls, I refuse to take calls.

679
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: If I'm meeting you online, I know I'm more comfortable

680
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: having a conversation via text because I can think and

681
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to. She's easy, she can think on

682
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: her feet and she can have that conversation and underget

683
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: what she needs in a negotiation very quickly. I prefer

684
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: to be straight to the point. And if I'm meeting

685
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you online, I'm gonna let you know off the rip

686
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: five to ten things about me that you need to

687
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: know when it comes to my time, how much I

688
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: value it, how much you're gonna pay for it based

689
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: on what you want. Also the things that I don't

690
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: do and won't do, like like, so those things are

691
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: there and you need to read that before we even

692
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: start a conversation. What are your list of things you

693
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: want to do? Like, I don't. I don't. I don't

694
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: screening obviously, I don't do it. Anal I hate anal right.

695
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I prefer to go on dates first so that I

696
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: can get to know you, like a dinner something like that,

697
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: and any rate, anything that's worth my you're gonna pay

698
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: me five hundred dollars at least at okay, even to

699
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: go out to seat yes, because this is my time

700
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: and me and that's the thing. The thing about it

701
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: is like, I know what I have to offer, because

702
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave that dinner feeling so happy and feeling like,

703
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: honestly you got the deal. Because and I've had so

704
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: many men turn me down like oh, that's too much money,

705
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: that's too much money. But I've never had a man

706
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: that paid that and was not happy with what they got.

707
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Like because I am a genuine person, I am sincere

708
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm somewhat cool or people say you think.

709
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: So, I like they leave that it's happy, names petty,

710
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: like it's what are the things that you make them feel?

711
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm already like that because I'm a Southern woman

712
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: and so something about like men like the sub comes

713
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: out in me, and I know what they need to

714
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: feel like a man, right, and so obviously you should

715
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: always be like touching on them and making them feel important.

716
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: You should always do that also, like if he's paying

717
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: you or not, but especially if he's paying you, like

718
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: he's paying and he took you out, he's paying for

719
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: an experience, his arm. That's why he took you out.

720
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: Like just touch on him, laugh with him, be extra

721
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: weight or something. I got to my mom.

722
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: She would do this in front of my dad, even

723
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: if she told us all what we were gonna eat

724
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: when the waiter comes, oh, baby, like I would always

725
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: see her do.

726
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: That, and it was so like hoy, and like be

727
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: your man. I don't order my own food, which I'm

728
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: men have hated that I do that. Yeah, don't talk

729
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: about order. Oh I order for the table. You also,

730
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I know that friend, No I do it with men.

731
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 1: I've been changing. I didn't. Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

732
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: But also he spoke so fucking quiet. I was like, oh,

733
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I for sure was was the man.

734
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: You know you need to But but that's the thing

735
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: to releeve, which which in the way I show up

736
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: and probably why I do have a lot of the

737
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: men that I have there is still just because I

738
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: don't want to make it seem like there's this is

739
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: a one trick pony to getting men.

740
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: A lot of the men that do date me, where maybe.

741
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: My boyfriend had an issue with it, all of my

742
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: sugar daddies are side men. I know I've been different

743
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: than their wives. I've been different than those they like

744
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: the dominance in me. Okay, okay, so real quick. One moment,

745
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: I actually wanted to have this conversation because you also,

746
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: and you open it up and I let you spoke that, I.

747
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Let you spoke. Jesus Christ.

748
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: Y'all know, I don't know how to speak, and I

749
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: have to kill my system. But you opened up with

750
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: the fact that one of your partners you pegged. Yes,

751
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: and I'm talking, and I want to talk about your

752
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: pegging experience, the type of men you peg, and why,

753
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: And then I would love to just go back and

754
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: forth with even the dynamics of that, because I think

755
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: there's a confusion with even yes, me ordering is very masculine,

756
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: but there's a difference in the type of men that

757
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: I peg as well. So you just recently had a

758
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: pegging experience, how did it get set up, how did

759
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: he ask for.

760
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: It, and what was it like? So I think we'll

761
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: close out with the why, Like just could close that

762
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: out because like it's different, like a men with a

763
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: lot of money and power want a lady like I mean,

764
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: the old fashioned version of ladies, So yes, touching on them,

765
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: laughing at them, dressing very nicely, being you know, a

766
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: lady in the streets and the freaking sheets. That's what

767
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: they want, especially if you're going for a high scale man.

768
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: So you need to be you know, really for that. Now,

769
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to pegging, I have like I don't

770
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: make any of them with my boyfriends. Like a man

771
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: with a lot of money that is willing to invest

772
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: in me and my future, in my happiness and have

773
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: fun with me. Now that's someone that's boyfriend material. You

774
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: can go from a sugar didy to a boyfriend, especially

775
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: if I really like hanging out with you. When it

776
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: comes to the pegging, it's always like they'll find me

777
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: from a site, through a client, or I work exclusively

778
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: like in porn. I only shoot pegging scenes for peg

779
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: him dot com, which is a Michael Vegas site, and

780
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: so people will find me through there and contact me

781
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, will you do this

782
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: for me? And so it's usually just like you know,

783
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: looking through the site. I don't really meet those people

784
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: in any other like area right of life. And then

785
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: I meet with them, it's always like pretty like to

786
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: the point they're always same and like, it's interesting to

787
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: me that you were saying that yours were like mass

788
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: because every like guy I mean is a twink and

789
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: he's cute, but he like he wants to like wear

790
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: fishnets and heels, and he wants me to put makeup

791
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: on him, and he wants me to put on a

792
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: wig and make him like struck for me and like

793
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: be kind of ex wild. Those are my pegging clients.

794
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Are all twinks are all so literally literally literally brought

795
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: it up. Boys. When she brought it up, I said,

796
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: I have never fucked a twink.

797
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: I've literally just said bring masculinity back on my other

798
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: podcasts because I'm not here for the men painting their nails,

799
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: or the merses, or the overshading of things.

800
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh, the over shaking. I don't like. I don't like, well, no, no, no,

801
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: I say this because you peg twinks.

802
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people assume that when

803
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: I am someone, I refer to myself as peg the stallion.

804
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: They're even you were shocked, like, wait, these are super masculine. Yes,

805
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: I am attracted because I'm bisexual. I would even say

806
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: what I'm attracted to.

807
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: I love the masculinity a man, can I love the

808
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: femininity of a woman. So it's Pride month. My husband

809
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: and I are actually both pan sexual. And he did

810
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: say that I can tell you guys this, so like

811
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: he won't let me peg him. He might be into

812
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: and he might do it, but like I thought, it's like, yeah,

813
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: I think it's like a like a I'd prefer to

814
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: do it to twinks and not my husband. Ah right,

815
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Like I think I get unenjoyment it, but it's like, oh,

816
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like kind of using this little twink boy

817
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: so that it's like that for me.

818
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: Do you know what's crazy? That's the number one question

819
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: that I get asked. But I also asked having a

820
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: ginger when we sat with her. There's the very first

821
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: question that I get from any man when I express

822
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: that I've pegged someone, is well, do you respect them?

823
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: After? Oh? That is a very that's a big one.

824
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: That's the big one. Do you not? I definitely do

825
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: I have?

826
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: I have.

827
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I think it's more my husband than me, Like I think,

828
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: no different because of all the things he's done for me,

829
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Like how can I see you any different just because

830
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: you're doing this one thing for him? And I were

831
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: lucky because we're open, So it's not like a deal breaker.

832
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: It's like he can still go and do that elsewhere

833
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: and like we're both gonna be fine. He just prefers

834
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: to not him not see me or me to not

835
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: see him like that, Okay, and he wants, Yeah, he's

836
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: that person in my life and he just doesn't want

837
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: to be viewed that way. But I think I don't

838
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: care what any girl says. If you have some man

839
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: bent over with his legs behind his ears, you're not

840
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna see him the same way. Don't do that, bitch.

841
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I let us because I'll be honest with you.

842
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: To me, well, real quick, we have a different experience.

843
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, you have never well not

844
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: only masculine men. I have never in my life been

845
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: with a white man. So to me, I'm bending over

846
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: and pegging six foot three plus masculine black men. And

847
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you and be honest though, well,

848
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: well black man, no no, no, no, no no, but

849
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: you're not you're not letting me finish my point I would.

850
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in twinks at all.

851
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: But the thing that makes me so prideful in experiencing

852
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: that with black men is that I've created a safe

853
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: space that I know.

854
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: They don't get from a lot of black men.

855
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: To be very clear with you, they open up with

856
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: me about the things that they they want or they desire,

857
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: and I've said this on a recent podcast when I

858
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 3: was on Social Proof. I would love to be able

859
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 3: to open or be with a man who's open about

860
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: their sexuality, whether they're paanned by curious even I think

861
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: for me to have those interactions with black men in

862
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: a space where in society is general, specifically in the bedroom,

863
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: they don't feel safe, very true to me.

864
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: It's not that I wear it as a badge of honor,

865
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: you should. I genuinely love knowing.

866
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: That there are black men that have felt so safe

867
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: with me to experience that with them, and they are masculine,

868
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: they do identify as heterosexual, like I haven't yet, you

869
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

870
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: So that to me, for people to think that the

871
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: blackness is going to keep you respecting them, because a

872
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: lot by that, because you feel like this, because you're

873
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: fucking masculine niggas, like You're like, She's like, well, I

874
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: won't look like they're I don't fuck white guys.

875
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: There's so many women out there that will fucking nigget

876
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: in the ass tonight and look in him that way.

877
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: The blackness. Of course, we're both just period. I'm talking

878
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: about a different point.

879
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: There's so many women that are shitty about this, and like,

880
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: even the conversation that you have, I don't really think

881
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 4: that has to do what hers me and white. It

882
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 4: has to do with sometimes, oh, I didn't bring like

883
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'm saying the conversation she just had

884
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: separate from what you were saying. Her saying like, I

885
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: don't think I can do this to my husband, Avana

886
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: saying I don't know if I could do that with

887
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: my man. Y'all having that conversation, there is still a

888
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: stigma around someone that women put in a higher light

889
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: or look at as their equal, their partner, whatever it

890
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: might be, where the pegging becomes an issue, and that

891
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: also to me, kind of puts this hole in it

892
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: that I think is scarier for black men.

893
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I love what you're doing.

894
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: We have a different it's hard for them to find

895
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: that safe space where they can still be everything they

896
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: are and enjoy this.

897
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: Suddenly that there's men that say they don't want their

898
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: their girlfriend or someone that they respect to suck their dick.

899
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: There's men that like I've had an African man say that,

900
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: but there's also okay, so then let me make it

901
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: a little bit more kinky. There are men that constantly

902
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: say they wanted threesome, but they would never.

903
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: Do it with their wife. I've heard that.

904
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: To me, it's the same thing, there's men that won't

905
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: do things with their wives that they would do with

906
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: other women.

907
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: To say that you could fuck your partner in the

908
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: house or was it no, No, she said she doesn't

909
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: want her partner to. I would be fine with that,

910
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: she said.

911
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 4: She I'm saying so, like, and I think what makes

912
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: it scarier too for men listening is like, how can

913
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: I ask my girlfriend these things with two women? No,

914
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: with two women that are comfortable doing it. And it's

915
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: like the fear of being like I could suck up

916
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: the way you think about me, Like it's it's hella

917
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 4: scary because pegging really puts men into this space of like,

918
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm totally bottoming, I'm being submissive, and

919
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: I could not only just losing the power in the

920
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: sex element of it, but like in the relationship, right

921
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: in the relationship, Like pegging is scary as fuck because

922
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of friends in my life right

923
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: now that and you know, we've been talking about this

924
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: for a year. I have peg niggas it's not really

925
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: my thing, but I've done it. But like that are

926
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 4: having issues with how they see someone after.

927
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it's also like like it's it's

928
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: kind of our It falls on the woman that's doing

929
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: it to not put that pressure on them after like yeah,

930
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: this shouldn't really change, Like in the back of my mind, Yeah,

931
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like I'm gonna remember this, but like,

932
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: why should I treat my husband any different? Nothing? Nothing

933
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: about our relationships say so much. I feel like the

934
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: women ask don't do it? So yeah, but don't but

935
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: that got women. What will happen is this is usually

936
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: like nine times that's what happened. Is the man will

937
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: then ask her like something will normal will happen in

938
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: the relationship, and she has a completely different response because

939
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: she sees him completely different. Well not only that, and

940
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: that has its on her to keep that intact. But

941
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: a woman now.

942
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: Assumes because you took this strap, are you poking your

943
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 3: homeboys when you go over and play video games.

944
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: And see what happens all relationships? Also, I was thinking

945
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: about this, Oh no, that's not why I was actually

946
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: thinking about this when you first pose the question. Because

947
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: I feel like the main part is always being able

948
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: to be yourself. And if you're in a relationship where

949
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I don't know, especially if you've been

950
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: in this relationship for over a year, I don't know

951
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: if I can say this without her reacting weird. I

952
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: don't know. You should be able to say anything and

953
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: always be yourself. And even if you get to that

954
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: threesome situation, if you have to then censor yourself, you're

955
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: not having the experience that you deserve. For the experience

956
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: that you want, and if you're gonna want to have

957
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: it again, it's important for your partner to see how

958
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: you really want to do it, because then you go

959
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: and you do it this vanilla way and you're thinking

960
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: about her the whole time, and the next time she

961
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: lets you do it and you let loose, then it's

962
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: still cause a problem. Listen, if you've never been and

963
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: you've been thinking about it. Paid professional always Yeah. First

964
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: of all, I was just about to say that my client,

965
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: my client that I saw the other night, I just

966
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: showed up. It was so easy, was so quick, y'all,

967
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: because she went with me and I left her at

968
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: the barn sad with her minutes. I was telling her

969
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I was ready because, like I said, he came in

970
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I got a surprise for you.

971
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: He comes around the corner and fishnets and a thong

972
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh shit, and twin boy turns on

973
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: like that in him and I've got this huge black

974
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: penis and I'm like, I'm taking it slow with him

975
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: or whatever. And he's working, he's doing the most and

976
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: then he goes. He goes like, oh, pound me. And

977
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: I was like, are you sure you can handle it?

978
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: Because again I work on peg him dot com and

979
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: that dude takes him. I'm like, are you sure you

980
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: can handle it. He's like, yeah, I can handle it.

981
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: I did it for maybe like ten seconds and he

982
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: was already coming, and then I was out the door

983
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: like it was that easy. But then I was out

984
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: the door on my way out, him and I got

985
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: to talk. He has a girlfriend and he hires him

986
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: and her have the understanding that they will hire someone

987
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: for this instead of having anything to do with a relationship.

988
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: She's accepted, like, okay, he's into that. She trusted he's

989
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: not gay because she's confident in him and their relationship,

990
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: which is what she should do. And stop because your

991
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: brain will take you to places. Oh I just pegged him.

992
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh is he fucking his homeboys? That is the devil

993
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: and you stop, Okay if there is no proof, that's

994
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: just you being paranoid, honestly, and it can cause problems

995
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: in relationship and it is so much easier for a strap. Trust. Yeah.

996
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: So they he was telling me, like, I would never

997
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: let my girlfriend. My girlfriend doesn't want to and so

998
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: that's why we hire, Like there are women out there

999
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: for you. Go and find a sex worker that does

1000
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: that and don't put the strain on your relations I

1001
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: mean early on conversation, he came in sexts and we

1002
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: got to talk.

1003
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was the conversation with me, And

1004
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: in my last relationship, it was that I'm good on

1005
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: that and if this is what you need and this

1006
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: is what you want, I'm fine with you going finding that.

1007
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Yes, because he doesn't want to lose you, Like that's

1008
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: just one part of you, and that's what people tend

1009
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: to forget. We in America put a lot of importance

1010
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: on sex, and it's really stupid, but we do. We

1011
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: put a lot of importance on sex, especially in relationships,

1012
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: and it ends up causing more problems than than it

1013
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: than we really need, right, because ultimately, if you're a

1014
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: man loves you and this is just one little quirky

1015
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: thing about you that he doesn't like you, the pegging

1016
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: is a quirk head work to him. Though, right, it's

1017
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: probably like this quirky thing that she likes to do,

1018
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: like it's weird and right and like it's weird, but

1019
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: like she's not. I'm not being hurt. She's not hurting anybody.

1020
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: Let her do it. It's not gonnaffect her.

1021
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 4: She's thinking about me and said, I like to play

1022
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: word for friends, and if I added paynords with.

1023
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: That word with friends, it's crazy. That's not very quirking.

1024
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: I did when to get through like really deep competitions

1025
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: and shit like I've done zoom rooms with the people in.

1026
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: There, like I'll go to scrabble back. Oh my god,

1027
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: right ourganelloshit. This week, guys, we've talked about you having

1028
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: boyfriends and them needing to pay well.

1029
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: There is a woman who says that she is a

1030
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: twelve K girlfriend for hire and tells ladies.

1031
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: That they should not date for free.

1032
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: She's claiming that she makes more than twelve thousand dollars

1033
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: a month as a stand in companion.

1034
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: And she is currently trending highly on not only Instagram,

1035
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: but TikTok.

1036
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: And she began her non traditional career paths a few

1037
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: years ago, where she said her first client was willing

1038
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: to pay more than five hundred dollars for her time,

1039
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: which is also crazy if you go back to the

1040
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: archive of horrible decisions. I used to tell women, if

1041
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: you're going to ask a man for money, don't let

1042
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: it be less than five five hours, because then he's

1043
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: gonna think you're a cheap bitch.

1044
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: And do not ask for one hundred. Do not ask

1045
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: for two hundred.

1046
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: You don't ask for your nails. Please ask for five

1047
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: hundred nails. Even if what you need is less than

1048
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: five hundred. Do not ask for less than five hundred

1049
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: because the nigga will look at you as a cheap bitch. Anyway,

1050
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 3: she lives in Japan, but she has been She's began

1051
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: charging face to face interactions in Japanese yes, and going

1052
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: and going on outings with paying clients. She dresses in

1053
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: different ways.

1054
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry to interrupt, but before she wasn't seeing

1055
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: them in person. She was just charging this perverting it

1056
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: might have been, it might have been. She like, I

1057
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: was gonna say, bit she has been doing a shit

1058
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, she said.

1059
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: It came to me because in my home country, Japan,

1060
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: paid dating is actually very normal. So she said she

1061
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: just began charging face to face interactions and going on

1062
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: outings with paying clients. Her fees started at around five

1063
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: hundred and forty dollars, but she claims that some satisfied

1064
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: customers would always leave with more, have called up thousands.

1065
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: So can I just say an easy fast track to

1066
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: the boyfriend You guys were asking how you become a

1067
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: boyfriend earlier? My boot thing in La we met online

1068
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: through one of the sites and it was arranged to

1069
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: be this and we met up and it was five

1070
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for dinner. I left with two thousand dollars

1071
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: and I didn't even have to ask, Like it was

1072
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: just like a it's again. And I remember texting him

1073
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: after like are you sure you gave me the right envelope?

1074
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: And he was like it's a gift with like hearts,

1075
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: and like that's how you easily quickly giving me more

1076
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: than what I asked for. You're a winner now.

1077
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: You're a winner. For those of you who may not

1078
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: want to go this route and say you're on the

1079
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: older side of things, you can also be a rentable

1080
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: parent now. Rensable parents are often people that are stand

1081
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: ins for meeting teachers, but also significant others family.

1082
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: Let me get into this.

1083
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 3: So the service costs only about seven dollars and seven

1084
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: fifty an hour seven dollars and cents an hour, and

1085
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: it seemed to grow in popularity both on and offline.

1086
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: Advertisements for the rented parents are posted in This is

1087
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: in China, Chinese newspapers in the Internet calling out specific

1088
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: events where services might be needed.

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00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: So here's like what one would say. Do you have

1090
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: a boyfriend or girlfriend who wants to meet your parents,

1091
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: but you actually don't want them to meet them, asks

1092
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: one of the ads.

1093
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: You can now have a stand in set of parents

1094
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: for this, a rented parent is needed. Just need to

1095
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: make a phone call to a teacher. You can do

1096
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: it if you want someone to feel more important in

1097
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: your life and meeting the parents maybe an ultimator, so.

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00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily like the person needs. It's not sexual, Yes,

1099
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: it's not sexual. I didn't think it was sexual. I

1100
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: was thinking like maybe like a mom died and you

1101
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: need like a new mom around. Seems more it's like

1102
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: a paid actor.

1103
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: Not only that, the country, which still has a lot

1104
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: of arranged marriages, has seen an increase in rent boyfriends

1105
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: and girlfriends, especially around the holidays, So this is a

1106
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: part where they're probably bringing them to party, probably bringing

1107
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: them to things like that. So okay, well you can say,

1108
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: at thought she said that. I think that's how it started.

1109
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: But she's like a girlfriend now for twelve k month?

1110
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: Is that what I heard she is?

1111
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: And then now there's also this advertisement for parents to

1112
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: come in, which also just lents to the fact that

1113
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: no one likes being honest. I really like living a

1114
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: lie that they create for them.

1115
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Because I saw so many problems as you were reading that,

1116
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, what about when you actually need

1117
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: them to meet her parents? How do you explain the

1118
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: fake parents? How do you explain that? What about when

1119
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: you actually need, like, if you actually plan to be

1120
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: with this person for a long time, be honest with

1121
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: them now, because eventually this is like, can I do

1122
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: the Devil's out of care? Here we go, sure, here

1123
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: we go. What if.

1124
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: That person, especially like we just interviewed a few weeks

1125
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: ago Jooeying Summers, who's a Chinese comedian that was telling

1126
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: us about like, you know how pedigree is a thing.

1127
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: What if you felt like your parents weren't good enough

1128
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: for like, oh, be honest, why is everybody want to

1129
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: be like this is normal? This is acceptable. Like all

1130
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: of our childhoods, all of our lives, everything about us

1131
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: is different in some way, shape or form. Like it

1132
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: might be unfortunate, but if this is the person that

1133
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna be with, yes, it's tell them. Oh for work, Yes,

1134
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: for work. If it's like a work thing and you're

1135
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not bringing my parents here, yes, But if

1136
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, I just don't even a stupid thing.

1137
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: The school, yeah, the relationship thing, I just don't feel

1138
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: like that that's going to create more problems.

1139
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: The relationship thing is tough because I think even in

1140
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: crazy rich Asians just thinking about it right now, remember

1141
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: one was super rich.

1142
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: Her family was like this, he was this that, and

1143
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: like it was like, okay, this is Titanic Jack. Jack

1144
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: should have had his little rich Yeah, you should have

1145
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: played some rich firs. Okay, same what happened with Darren

1146
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: actually she was pretty much a queen on the season. Yeah,

1147
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: she was the start. I'm not you have shit when

1148
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: you came out that motherfucker. No, it's crazy.

1149
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: Well, before we get into our horrible decision, because you

1150
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: are a new age porn star and content grated, we're

1151
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: gonna get into it. But before we get there, in order,

1152
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: that is our sex tip. I would love for you

1153
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: to give a sex tip to the ladies. You already

1154
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: told us how to have boyfriends and a husband, but

1155
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: can you give us a sex tip on how.

1156
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: To be a porn star in the bedroom? Oh, I

1157
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: would say, I would say really believe yes, I mean

1158
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: every I feel like my personal experience, like the experience

1159
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: that I provide is that, like I have so much

1160
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: fun having sex, Like I'm giggling, I'm smiling, I'm like

1161
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: like bubbly the whole time, not giggling. I feel Oh yeah,

1162
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean like and pe people love my giggle. I

1163
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I would say for most girls,

1164
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: the tip is to do the most. Literally, if you're

1165
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: riding the deck were heels, do do it on your tiptoes, like,

1166
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, like do the most. And if you don't

1167
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: know what the most find some point. I know you're

1168
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: already like I use a muscle literally someone of the

1169
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: opposite vibe.

1170
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 4: I would literally think, bro, I've had sex with girls

1171
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: that dude so much. I'm like, what did she look

1172
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 4: up in port?

1173
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: No? I mean like position wise, I don't. I don't

1174
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: like when girls do too much like verbally or like

1175
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: yeah no, no, no, no, I am not Please do

1176
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: not go no honestly, no no no. Be normal to

1177
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: the verbiage and the dialogue. Please be as normal as possible.

1178
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Be yourself because men really like that. And then secondly,

1179
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about positions and then your energy as

1180
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: you're doing those positions, because normally you'd be kind of

1181
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: into it and passionate, but do it as if you're

1182
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: doing it for him, like not for yourself, and so

1183
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a little bit more energy in it.

1184
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna kind of be smiling at him because you

1185
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: see what you're doing him like. It's just a whole

1186
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: different vibe when you're like.

1187
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what not to do. I had a

1188
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 4: nigga laugh at me. Wait wait in the middle wanted

1189
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: to kill this nigga. I was fucking BDD and I

1190
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: was just like, oh my god. I was like to

1191
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: talking to run and he had some good sex, but

1192
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: like me and him a fucking on and off for

1193
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: a long time for years.

1194
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: So he was sucking this ship out of me and

1195
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I was like in the pillow and he was behind me,

1196
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, you're gonna sucking

1197
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: come out of my pussy. And he started laughing. He

1198
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you crazy fuck. He didn't like you're

1199
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: saying that? Was that? Was that too? Was that too

1200
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: warning for him? I started laughing, and I'm like listen

1201
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn, he must think I'm really trying,

1202
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: but really I was. My brain was just so horny.

1203
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: He just about to say, I fuck up all the time.

1204
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, don't worry about birth. I was

1205
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: liked to think about what you're trying to say. I

1206
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: have said some weird I've said, I've bet when I

1207
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 1: really just his dick is fucking me. And I'm saying,

1208
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: make that so weird ship, because you're getting your back

1209
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: blown out, Your brains is all scrambled, the brain is

1210
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: not right. That was hot, and it's just like just

1211
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: so nicey, oh girl, he told me the today, bro.

1212
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: I hate when there. It was the night that we

1213
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: saw you went over there.

1214
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: Didn't think I was gonna get no dick. We're fucking

1215
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: it was fucking good. We're fucking lit. And then I

1216
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: put my leg up and he touched my leg and.

1217
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: He goes, just like, next time you come over here,

1218
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, you better shave him a fucking leg. Oh away,

1219
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: you got a big dick. I can't. That's why he

1220
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: could talk like that to you.

1221
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want his big as dick, he said,

1222
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: he said, shave the next time.

1223
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, he definitely humbled you right

1224
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: there because oh my god, you know what did you

1225
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: what did you say? I was laughing. I was laughing.

1226
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: I know.

1227
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: I think I was about this sucking sick like but

1228
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: we and when you were saying laughing and ship like that.

1229
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: Maybe probably in my life those are one of the

1230
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: part He's one of the partners where like we.

1231
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: Get in and out of it a lot. Yeah, you

1232
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: can giggle every now. Was about to start sucking. I

1233
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want even sucking away. He's like,

1234
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'll take you back.

1235
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: I see it, and then you get into the sexy

1236
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: cause now he begging and you kind of I was like,

1237
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: you knew any nice for me are here?

1238
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Well the horrible decisions I did want to get into

1239
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: being a new age porn star content creating What it's like,

1240
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: I went to all of your all of your tab

1241
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: which will be added in the description of this episode.

1242
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: But you create content for cam soda OnlyFans, mini bids.

1243
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: You also are now with browsers, so you do actual,

1244
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: you do porn Hub. What is the difference for all

1245
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: of that? And do all of the platforms get the

1246
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: same content?

1247
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: For me? For a long time they were, but as

1248
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: of now, like sort of all of my like actually

1249
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: like directed written, scripted, like full blown scenes. I used

1250
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: to do a lot of those just for fun, Like

1251
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: I've got I got into this for fun, like as

1252
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: you for my story. You could tell it's like, Okay,

1253
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: I want to do porn, right, and now I got

1254
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: this guy that's gonna pay for it. I'm already married,

1255
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: my life's taking care of let's go do this thing.

1256
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: And so I started by just kind of like having

1257
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: fun with it, and then I realized over time that

1258
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to create in melons. Now my content when

1259
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: it comes to my only fans specifically, it's just like

1260
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: solo stuff like masturbating and stuff like that, And I

1261
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: do my mimosas and masturbation mondays on there so I

1262
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: can bring other girls into it. They don't really do

1263
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: like boy girl girl girl content on there anymore. It

1264
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: kind of I was having so much fun meeting all

1265
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: my like because I was a fangirl. I knew all

1266
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: these girls from like social media, and like I wanted

1267
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: to meet them to fuck them, not to make content,

1268
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: but just to like fuck them. And so it's kind

1269
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: of taking the funnel out of it for me. So

1270
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: now I get to like do the mimosas and masturbation

1271
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: mondays with them, and then I still get to hang

1272
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: out with them and like do other stuff with them,

1273
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: and there's not that pressure to get the sex part

1274
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: done on camera. Now there's a lot of stuff on

1275
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: your Twitter. There is a lot of sex on Twitter

1276
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: as well. What's the best.

1277
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: Like sock in the categories? I would like to know

1278
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: if it's based on even your partner. I think that

1279
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: was one of my questions too, Like do you make

1280
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: more money in the orgy scenes? Or women on women,

1281
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: or white men versus black men. What are the scenes

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00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: where you feel like you've seen the most the most competentation.

1283
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: So when it comes to like mainstream porn, you have

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00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: set rates.

1285
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, it doesn't really like I get your question,

1286
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: but I can't really answer it because it's like you

1287
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: have your Every girl has her own set rates. So

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00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: I have a set rate for boy girl scenes, and

1289
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: a set right for girlirl scenes, and a set right

1290
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: for orgies and a set rate for that, so I

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna get for each of those. I

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00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: was like any other girl, more like the websites. Yeah, Now,

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to content trades and stuff and the

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00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: and the content that I've uploaded, I would say that

1295
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: my girl girl scenes do better than my boy girl scenes.

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00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: My black black boy girl scenes do better than my

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: interracial scenes. But my interracial scenes that I've shot for

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00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: brawsers and all that, they do great. But when I

1299
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: shoot personally interracial scenes, I mean, they do decent, But

1300
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: I think because my black fans don't get me in

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: the mainstream and they only get half of me in

1302
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: the in my and the like, there's less of it,

1303
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: so it does better. Right, like they want more of

1304
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: that and I'm trying. No, I'm trying, but like that's shooting.

1305
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: But I also saw a website that we've never talked

1306
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: about that I'm familiar with, what the hell is sexting Panther.

1307
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: Sex sext Panther is a European site sort of like Arrows,

1308
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: because you know, there's so much further along than us,

1309
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: and so they allow things like this, and so we

1310
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: they have like an app technically now, but like the

1311
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: text come directly to your phone, it's just sexting. It's sexting, sexting.

1312
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. You. So you set your rates

1313
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: like this much to receive a text, this much, to

1314
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: send a text, this much, to receive a photo this

1315
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: much too sex a photo, this must video. My first

1316
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: week one there, I remember, like I was still pretty

1317
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: early in the industry, and I was like I called

1318
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: a friend like stressed and like, fuck, I'm gonna need

1319
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: money right for something at the time, and she's like,

1320
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: sign up for sex Pan, y'all, I need three thousand

1321
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: dollars in like one week. It's weekly payoffs. In one week.

1322
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: I made three thousand dollars on that, and it was

1323
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: and it was just me my phone, as normal as

1324
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: I usually do and stuff like that. No, it does

1325
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: not have to be your face. It's just sexing and

1326
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: they'll pay you more. It's like you're a no face girl.

1327
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: They'll probably you could probably get hundreds of dollars out

1328
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: of that dude just to show them your face. It's

1329
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: you have to go to the website and then because

1330
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: the app is we don't allow sex apps in the

1331
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: United States, so it is an app, but you know

1332
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: you got to go the back ass way to get

1333
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: it on your phone, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1334
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: And I'll hold you up with that too. Yeah. And

1335
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: so you need the app though, because in the US

1336
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: we lost our SMS privileges. It used to come right

1337
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: to your phone and now you have to have the app,

1338
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: and it still comes right to your phone. But if

1339
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to make money on the go, it's literally

1340
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: just it's just girls.

1341
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: How is it possible for the women listening that want

1342
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 4: to make extra cash? How is it fucking possible to

1343
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: stand out and then over no face and make money.

1344
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: No face girls are the best girls. Men want to

1345
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: see your face and they will pay a lot of

1346
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: money to do that, and I think that turns them on,

1347
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: like the fact that they don't know who you are.

1348
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: You could be their next or neighbor. You could be

1349
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: the girl that like has the same body down the street, like,

1350
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: oh is that her? Oh? But you can send mess

1351
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: and ship. Yeah, you can show your puss everything but

1352
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: your face from here up, everything down, you're good to go.

1353
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: And times a lot of times, a lot of times

1354
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: they'll be fixed on a certain part of your body

1355
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be your face, so like you're

1356
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Yeah, no face, it's you like my elbow,

1357
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but no. But look how many people

1358
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: have their face cut off?

1359
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: A lot a lot of them don't show their faces

1360
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: because the panther doesn't have to be your names.

1361
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: Ex panther is sort of like porn howb you used

1362
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: to be whor it's like the freak come out. But like,

1363
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of those girls are on there for money, right,

1364
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: and they have normal jobs, they have responsibilities, they have kids,

1365
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: they have you know, et cetera. And some of them

1366
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: just want to be freaky without ruining their lives, or

1367
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: they you know, want to make some extra money without

1368
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: ruining their lives. Again, this is because we are so

1369
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: such crudes or prudes about sex in the United States,

1370
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: So we.

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00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: Have I'm just looking through I just clicked on categories

1372
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: their female domination girlfriend experience. Looks like it's around one

1373
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: hundred I mean one hundred dollars seventy five a message.

1374
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: No honors, two fifty. Okay, you can raise them, you

1375
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: can you can change each group average. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1376
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: I see two dollars. That's for just words. Now, if

1377
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: you need a photo, if I'm looking at a photo

1378
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: or sending you a photo, what's the most you've charged

1379
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: for a photo? Upwards of like thirty, but I usually

1380
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: keep it around fifteen. But if I'm like out and

1381
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: you're being extra and you're like, let me share it, yeah,

1382
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm all right, you want it that bad, You're

1383
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna pay this much and then it's up to them

1384
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: to unlock it or not. But like, yeah, and for

1385
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: them to unlock it, they have they have to pay

1386
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: ooh for me to for them to even send a

1387
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: photo to me, they have to pay, like, because nine

1388
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: times out of ten it's gonna be a digpic, you

1389
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: have to pay before you send it. So with the today,

1390
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: sex panther won't send it with the difference in what you're.

1391
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: Making, what has you working with the browsers and the

1392
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: larger companies if you can make so much money as

1393
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: well independently.

1394
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: So I will say, like I say that about sex panther, Right,

1395
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: I made three grand, But I'm one of those people,

1396
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: like I'm very transparent and like it's not always like that.

1397
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: There's some weeks I made nothing on there. There's some

1398
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: weeks where like right, but like it was one of

1399
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: those things where like you get on there, and especially

1400
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: if you're a brand new girl. I think that's why

1401
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I made so much money. They've never seen me on

1402
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: this site. They've never been able to talk to me.

1403
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh and your porn star and like all this other

1404
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: stuff they always and like so on sex pathers specifically,

1405
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: they have a page for brand new girls, so like

1406
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: the girls that just signed up get a lot of

1407
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: exposure on that. And so your gonna be every week, Yeah,

1408
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: your first couple of months are going to be your

1409
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: best month, but don't expect it to always be like that.

1410
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Just like OnlyFans, some months are going to be better

1411
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: than others. Some porn porne sometimes I'm shooting once a month,

1412
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm shooting five six times a month. I actually

1413
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: quit shooting mainstream because I find that I make You

1414
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: were asking me this earlier. I honestly personally find that

1415
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I make my most money in my day to day

1416
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: interactions with my clients and boyfriends. Because again, I've met

1417
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: so many boyfriends now they're kind of taking care of

1418
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: everything I need. I don't need to stress myself by

1419
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: running around. I don't need to stress myself by running

1420
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: around constantly being tested and having my hair and makeup, nails,

1421
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: everything done, when in reality, porn stars don't get paid

1422
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: what they should be per scene, right, and I'm not

1423
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: seeing on that scene, but is yeah, I'm gonna get

1424
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: to that. So I've already put in the work, is

1425
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: what I was about to say. Like my scenes are

1426
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna be out there. People still think me A Khalif

1427
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 1: is a porn star and she hasn't shot a scene

1428
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: in almost ten fucking years. Like that part doesn't matter,

1429
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't have to do anything. My scenes are

1430
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: gonna be on the internet and I'm not getting anything

1431
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: off of that. I've done the work and now it's

1432
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: working for me, So I can take the time off

1433
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: from stressing and being on set to see the clients

1434
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: that I've built in the relationships that me doing this

1435
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: work has made for me.

1436
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: Do you think that only fans can water down the

1437
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 4: other avenues because basically it's like this feed of you know,

1438
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 4: people you paid to see something. It's just the constant

1439
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: feed of it. Do you think that maybe only fans

1440
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 4: will have a point where like these other sites, like

1441
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: sex thing seems very basic, but it's also fun.

1442
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: And never goes away.

1443
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm saying like that to me, almost is

1444
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: more interesting than every single girl.

1445
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: Only fans. We're so much only fans, right, you have

1446
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: girls that don't do porn that I have only fans.

1447
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: It's just their titties.

1448
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 4: It's just this like oversaturate, Well, can you over so

1449
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: it was really can you oversaturate yourself as an adult.

1450
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: As an adult performer, as like, let's say you have

1451
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: a specific niche and you're a content creator, that's one thing.

1452
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: As an adult performer, a porn star Alisa An or

1453
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: something like that, Like you honestly have to do it

1454
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: all and it's not because it's not even a matter

1455
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: of oversaturating. You're gonna have fans that only use Twitter

1456
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: or Twitter and Instagram, and then some that only use

1457
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: Reddit in Twitch, and then some that only use porn Hub,

1458
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: some that don't like porn Hub and they want to

1459
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: use OnlyFans, Some that want to sex, they don't like

1460
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: watching your scenes, they want to talk to you, some

1461
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: that want to do this, and some that want to

1462
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: do that. So it's up to you as a performer

1463
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that each of your fans has access

1464
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: to you based on their likes and their needs, right,

1465
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: And it falls on me to actually do the things

1466
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: that I like, because there are fans that I know

1467
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: that I'm missing because I'm not gonna do Reddit, I'm

1468
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: not gonna do Twitch. I've tried it. I have and

1469
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that will try everything platform

1470
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: yeah and so and Twitch and sitting there streaming for

1471
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: hours just like and it's like I can't do that.

1472
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't have the time or the patience or the whatever,

1473
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: right And I know that I'm missing out on those fans.

1474
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: But again, that's why I spread myself out so much,

1475
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: because maybe I'm not on Twitch, but maybe the people

1476
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: that are on Twitch might be on something else that

1477
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm you, and maybe that boyfriend's gonna be right right

1478
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: there exactly. You're asking me how I meet them? The

1479
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: DC one, Instagram, the Freakin' the one that I used

1480
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: to have in Colorado I think was like tender, the

1481
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: one that I have in Miami. Some website like a

1482
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: Reddit or something that found me and like founded, Like

1483
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: was smart enough to find my website send me a

1484
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: like right, and so like it's all like, putting yourself

1485
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: in all those places just ups your chances of finding

1486
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: the man that you're looking for and making more money

1487
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: the most. Like, I think you can't oversaturate yourself. The

1488
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: market can be oversaturated with girls, but when you're selling you,

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Speaker 1: you need to make sure that that's everywhere. It's available

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Speaker 1: But don't worry about the fact that you're fighting with

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Speaker 3: I'm not answer well, the letting the people know. We

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Speaker 3: are gonna put it in the description of this episode.

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Speaker 3: But let the people know where they can find you,

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Speaker 3: where they can follow you, and where they can support you.

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Speaker 1: And watch you. Thank you so much. So everything of

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Speaker 1: mine is on official Hazelgrace dot com. I like to

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Speaker 1: keep it simple because I have a lot of scammers

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Speaker 1: out there. If you do not see the link on

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Speaker 1: leads you right to that, it's not me. I got

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Speaker 1: two Instagrams. I just got to back up. We love

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Speaker 1: Hazel Grace because of me. Get in mind. Deleted them

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Speaker 1: Like next time, I'm gonna be prepared. So if you're

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Speaker 1: that's it. I know, that's right. Listen, I'm doing. There

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Speaker 1: was so many things that we also talked about that

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Speaker 1: we that we didn't get to.

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Speaker 3: I hope maybe we can out of a conversation on Patreon,

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Speaker 3: even if it's virtual, because I know you're all over

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Speaker 3: the place, but would.

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Speaker 1: Love to have all of you. Yes, definitely you to

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Speaker 1: follow up y'all. Thank y'all so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: By the way, make sure you go to whore Hive

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Speaker 4: For the Bye Next Bye Boyfriend by our Ship.

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Speaker 1: Right, So this contact stour, When am I coming to

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Speaker 1: do my mimosas and masturbation mondays? Are we doing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll be in La. We'll let you know.

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Speaker 3: We will be in La, I believe in September. But

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Speaker 3: we are going to the state where everything is bigger.

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Speaker 1: Honey. We're gonna be in Texas on July sixth and seventh.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken that, Yes, we are taking on

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Speaker 3: Houston and we are taking on Dallas.

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Speaker 1: We do have a break and taking its big we

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Speaker 1: can take. We are taking it balls deep in Texas.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you go to hororhive dot com and get

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Speaker 3: your tickets now, guys. Also, if you want the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to potentially hear Us talk again with Hazel Baby, it's

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Speaker 3: giving Patreon. Yes, that's where we have bonus content, so

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Speaker 3: go on over to patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions

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Speaker 3: and y'all, thank y'all so much for tuning in to

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Speaker 3: yet another episode of Horrible Decisions.

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Speaker 1: Bye y'all, Bye bye,