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Speaker 1: that is continual, something that is Dare I say haunting?

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Speaker 1: That's our classic episode.

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Speaker 2: This evening, specifically a hum as you indicate it with

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Speaker 2: your delightful home sound, and specifically in the area of Windsor,

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Speaker 2: Ontario in Canada.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is a baffling one, guys. I know we

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Speaker 4: have talked about strange hums that have been occurring more

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Speaker 4: recently because this is back twenty eighteen, but there are

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Speaker 4: some hums happening now that are associated with what they're

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Speaker 4: like large data centers, but they're specifically for crypto mining. Sure,

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Speaker 4: they emanate this weird hum. And there are some small

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Speaker 4: towns across the globe they're like, man, there's something new

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Speaker 2: We've heard all kinds of stories where people attribute like

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Speaker 2: sympathetic vibrations from like a modem or something to ethereal

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Speaker 2: kind of sense. It's very interesting, and this was kind

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Speaker 2: with y'all that really starts to dig into that kind

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Speaker 1: And as someone who has active auditory hallucinations, this is

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me. As well. Here's our classic episode,

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Speaker 1: what is the windsor hum?

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Speaker 5: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 5: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 5: learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 4: name is Noel.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We were joined with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul Decant. Give him an audio nod or clap.

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Speaker 1: The spirit so moves you. But most importantly, you are here,

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Speaker 1: and you are you, and that makes this stuff if

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Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. We hope this podcast

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Speaker 1: finds you in good spirits. We hope you find our voices.

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Speaker 1: If not soothing, tolerable, just get.

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Speaker 3: Some room tones, some hum tone.

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Speaker 4: See now, what we'll do is take that and then

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Speaker 4: run it through a program that specifically deletes all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're all about noise reduction here on stuff

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Speaker 2: they don't want you to denounce.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 1: We also link many podcasters put in our due diligence

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Speaker 1: when it comes to finding, isolating and erasing strange or

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Speaker 1: extraneous noises. And this brings us to maybe an opening

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Speaker 1: question for today's show. Have you ever heard a sound

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Speaker 1: big one for people. We're talking about something you just

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Speaker 4: In some cases, as in my case. In our home,

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Speaker 4: it just feels like it reverberates throughout my smile, my

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Speaker 4: like they're haunting me. But there are other things, like

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Speaker 2: You know, I have a family of rabid squirrels that

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Speaker 1: of Windsor, Ontario, has been haunted by an unidentified noise.

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Speaker 4: And I totally get the whole sound of a subwiffer

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Speaker 3: Which is great. That's my favorite place in Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the coolest places in Atlanta. But if

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, because that sound carries so powerfully, and we

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Speaker 1: But as my fellow co hosts, both of whom are

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was real.

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Speaker 3: I mean Paul was supposed to stick it in and post.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he did it, he did it. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they call you Ben, all right, I got you.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, because you can do something about.

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Speaker 1: It you can put down somebody, just the way you

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Speaker 2: So this doctor Cohen Cohan, he is he saying that

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Speaker 1: So what on earth is this thing? Where does it

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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy, because you see, the concern

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Speaker 3: That's not real.

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Speaker 4: It is very much real.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible name, Zug. What is it like? I

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Speaker 1: They sound like enemies of the Umpah lumpas.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, it's got a different name, the whole island. It

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Speaker 4: is kind of It is an island now. Now it

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Speaker 4: So. Originally the land, the land that would become Zug

440
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 4: Island was a peninsula, and for thousands of years it

441
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: was this uninhabited area that was also a Native American

442
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: burial ground.

443
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: True story, Yeah, an uninhabited Native American burial ground. What

444
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: do we mean by uninhabited? We mean that native populations

445
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: would go there to bury their dead and would not

446
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: live there because they would be living on a sacred gravesite.

447
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there you know, Wow, I'm picturing like a

448
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: pet cemetery kind of situation.

449
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: Well just wait, so then it becomes an island after

450
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: a canal is dug. Okay, so if you're looking at

451
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 4: it on Google Maps, Detroit is just above it. And

452
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: then across the river, of course, you've got windsor and

453
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: you're traveling down the Detroit River, there's this tiny little thing.

454
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: It doesn't even look like an island at all. And

455
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: that's because this canal was dug around this peninsula area

456
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: where the Rouge River goes into the Detroit River.

457
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: Right, yes, So now with this canal, the idea was

458
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: that the ships would be able to save some time.

459
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: That's all it was meant for.

460
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: That's all it is. It's a shortcut, and this allowed

461
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: ships to bypass not even that much of a distance,

462
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: like several hundred yards. Maybe. The island is named after

463
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: a specific guy, Samuel Zug, a bookkeeper and turned into

464
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: a furniture magnate. He went to Michigan to become a

465
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: furniture magnet and he turned into a real estate mogul.

466
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: And originally he and his wife were going to live

467
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: on Zug Island. It didn't really suit them, so he

468
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: ended up selling it and it became a place where

469
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: a lot of industries. Originally dumped stuff again on this

470
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: burial ground.

471
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: Big industries too, were talking iron and steel works, and

472
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: it really has. The work that's gone on on top

473
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 4: of this land has really taken a toll on it

474
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: over the years. And if you look at it in

475
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: Google Maps from above, it just like a darkness.

476
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: Like a dystopian vision. Yeah, from a steampunk novel. Yeah, yeah,

477
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: it does have an environmental toll. According to an article

478
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: in the January twentieth, twenty ten edition of the Detroit

479
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Free Press, the neighborhoods around the area comprise six of

480
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: the ten most polluted zip codes in Michigan, six of

481
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: the ten.

482
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: Geez.

483
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: The air quality samples contain lead, high levels of methyl

484
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: ethyl ketone. Large numbers of cancer and asthma cases occur there.

485
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: There are foul smells with sparkly dust that have to

486
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: be removed with toilet cleaner.

487
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 4: Geez.

488
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: But the good news is local businesses, communities, and governments

489
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: have so far kept part of the island undeveloped and

490
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: otherwise scarce. Wildlife can thrive in those areas right now.

491
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: One of the big business on the island is US Steel.

492
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: You may recall, friends and neighbors, especially American friends and

493
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: neighbors from recent conversations about steel tariffs here in the

494
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: United States. Yeah, still in business. It's a big business.

495
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: You might not hear about it much unless it pops

496
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: up in a political sphere or unless you are involved

497
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: in the steel or iron making industry. But yes, it

498
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: is a big deal. And US Steel. You might be

499
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: asking yourself, well, hey, guys, what do they do on

500
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: the island? We don't know.

501
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Well, according to US Steel their website us steel dot com,

502
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: this facility is called Great Lakes Works, and on there

503
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: it says this is just what it says, steel making

504
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: occurs here. It has finishing facilities, and products manufactured at

505
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: the plant include hot rolled, cold rolled, and coated sheet

506
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: steels that are used primarily by customers in the automotive industry. However,

507
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: if you look at the thing, and you look at

508
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: the place, it doesn't look like much is going on there.

509
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: That's the other thing that's this is the primary beef

510
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: people have with it. They say that US Steel is

511
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: uncooperative in terms of allowing access to the island, and

512
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: that breeds of course, that breeds suspicion, right.

513
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, But we've run into this before with any kind

514
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: of utility or large corporate entity or manufacturer.

515
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: They don't want you coming around their place, right.

516
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Like with the looking for the Secret Buildings, the hidden

517
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Buildings in New York, and we found this power substation

518
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 2: that was disguised as like a you know, apartment. We

519
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: wand around there for five minutes since someone came out

520
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: and told us to get I mean.

521
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: In a very polite way. That was very nice guy.

522
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: That's fair.

523
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm just say I don't think it necessarily implies a

524
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: conspiracy right off the bat, but you know, there's a

525
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: probably good reason they don't want people coming around.

526
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a great point. So the con ed substation,

527
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Mott Substation, an Haven, Mott Haven, thank you with two t's.

528
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: That place looks like a fancy condo or apartment building

529
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: that takes up an entire block, and they don't want

530
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: you there.

531
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: This place is the literal garbage island.

532
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: Right, They don't and they don't want you there, And

533
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a great point. It doesn't mean that something

534
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the farius is going on. It just means that, look,

535
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: they're not going to be selling to the public. The

536
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: four of us aren't going to walk there and buy

537
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, two tons of cold rolled steel for our purposes.

538
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: Not this year, not this year, saving up for that

539
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: big DIY home improvement project.

540
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build a I'm gonna build a mech nice.

541
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: But this is a great point. I mean, that doesn't

542
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: secrecy does not necessarily imply any kind of any kind

543
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: of untoward activity. But we can totally see how people

544
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: who think that, because the big question is, you know,

545
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: if you're not doing any wrong, why can't we see it.

546
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: One of the arguments, by the way, from Mount Haven

547
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: that substation is an argument about security of infrastructure. So

548
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: we were able to find it because we're you know,

549
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: we're fairly intrepid. And the big question for someone who's

550
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to protect that or keep it secret is, well,

551
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: if these yahoos could find this thing on their own,

552
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: what would a professional you know, militia or a group

553
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: of spies or terrorists, what would stop them from doing

554
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: the same thing.

555
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: Just to jump on the arguments you guys are talking

556
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: about with the secrecy and everything, the other issue here

557
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: is that it's an international problem, right, yes, I mean

558
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: we're talking about two different countries that are separated by

559
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: this tiny little body of water going across and what

560
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: people on one side are being affected potentially by what's

561
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: going on on the other side.

562
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, as as you mentioned earlier, Matt, they are going

563
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: to inevitably affect one another regardless of what's political. Borders exist,

564
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: they don't change the geography. And that's also part of

565
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the reason why the Canadian studies could not make definitive conclusions, right.

566
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't get access. Uncle Sam said nah. Well, Us

567
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Steel said nah, and then Uncle Sam said that's.

568
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: Right, that's my boy, and got his back.

569
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: So they did their best isolate and again, the science

570
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: here is really solid and they're pretty transparent about where

571
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: they feel. Their study came up short due to the

572
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: unpredictable nature of the HUM. They had all this equipment out,

573
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: sometimes the HUM just wouldn't show up. It does what

574
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: it will.

575
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: But they were able to possibly trace the HUM to

576
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: kind of a specific area, and we'll talk about that

577
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: right after a quick word from our.

578
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Sponsor and we're back, Matt. You're absolutely correct. They traced

579
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: it to Zug Island and furthermore, they traced it to

580
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a blast furnace.

581
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, these headings on this outline sound like the

582
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: chapters of a young adult fiction book. We've got like

583
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: Zug Island and the blast Furnace, like episodes of Stranger

584
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: Things or something.

585
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: This is a creepy location.

586
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's pitch that Stranger Thing season four Zug Island.

587
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 3: I like it.

588
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: I would watch it, or maybe a reality show sort

589
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: of like The Bachelor in Paradise. But you're on this

590
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: like Toxic Waste Island. I know there's no actual toxic waste.

591
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: It just strikes me as like some sort of like

592
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Russian toxic waste dumping site that time forgot.

593
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: Kind of well, I mean, this does have the workings

594
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: of a horror movie for me, because there is a

595
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: Native American burial ground on top of which a giant

596
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 4: industrial structure is placed that's polluting all the land below it,

597
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: and it's part of the industrial machine of the United

598
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: States that killed all of the ancestors.

599
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 2: So the Native people come back from the day and

600
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: they're like have super mutant strength and zombie powers, and

601
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: they come to exact their revenge on those that polluted there.

602
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Rest And then this is in the movie, right, and

603
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: the reason they rise up is because they had the

604
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: weight for the stars and the planets to be in

605
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: the right order.

606
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the source of the hum Yeah.

607
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: It's the slow movement of the heavens and.

608
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: They all say zug zugar.

609
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe they all hum. That would be scary. Oh

610
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: they all hum.

611
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: That's they're all humming at the same time. And then

612
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: they've got to create the sympathetic vibration. Then I don't know.

613
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: What will work opens up the darkness between the stars

614
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: rights itself.

615
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: Right.

616
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: But but aside from our fantastic pitch, Paul, are you

617
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: in for this horror movie that we just pitched? All right, great,

618
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: he's in.

619
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: I don't know. That was a trupidacious Yes, I do know.

620
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll sell them on it. Yeah, well, this is

621
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: just we're just spit volume.

622
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: We'll get a treatment. We'll do a one page. So

623
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: while we're at it, let's examine this blast furnace. These

624
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: furnaces are huge, they're they're gigantic. They are as powerful

625
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: as they sound. Essentially, here's what occurs. Fuel also known

626
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: as coke, ores and limestone are continuously supplied through the

627
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: top of the furnace, and at the bottom there's this

628
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: blast of hot air, sometimes with oxygen enriched inside of it,

629
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: and it blows through the lower section of the furnace

630
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: through a series of pipes, and the chemical reactions take

631
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: place throughout the furnace as the material, the ores and

632
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: stuff fall downward. This has immense pressure. The end products

633
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: are supposed to be molten metal and various what they

634
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: call slag phases tapped from the bottom and then gases

635
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: exiting the top of the furnace. There's the thing at

636
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: the top is called a bell, and one of the

637
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: blast furnaces on Zug Island has a cracked bell top.

638
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: This increases the amount of pollution it emits. It still works,

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: but it's not up to code. In twenty sixteen, US

640
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Steel was fined and told to make repairs on that infrastructure,

641
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: specifically that cracked bell. We know that from documents from

642
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: the US government, but this wasn't a huge story outside

643
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: of the area. And this altogether leads people to say

644
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: that despite the studies, despite the lack of a definitive conclusion,

645
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: we have our culprit. But now other people are not

646
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: helping them, helping the residents of windsor investigate this, specifically

647
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: the town of River Rouge.

648
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a US suburb this downstream from Detroit,

649
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: and they claim in their city council already spent over

650
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: a million dollars to help Windsor to find the source

651
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: of this noise. However, they did say the hum likely

652
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: comes from the steel mill facilities on Zug Island. So

653
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 4: they're saying, look, we already gave you a bunch of money,

654
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: we already try to help. We're pretty sure it's Zug.

655
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Right right, And they're trying to be as on the

656
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: up and up as they can and say, you know,

657
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: we're not one hundred percent sure.

658
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: But you know, but it is Zug.

659
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: It is zuny look at it right right.

660
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: Zug should be a word we used for either describing

661
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: something that's super cool or super messed up.

662
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: And we should always we should always be vague about it.

663
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of like zef.

664
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: You know the word. Yeah, that group and everything ZEF.

665
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: I think that means it's cool.

666
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: Nice for me. It's all about warcraft too. The orcs,

667
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: if you clicked on them, they'd go zug Zug.

668
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: Oh so that okay, that's not out a whole cloth

669
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: then yeah, oh yeah, you know what, maybe I'll get

670
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: into world of Warcraft one day.

671
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the original one, like the top down,

672
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: top down command and conquer style. Command and Conquer was

673
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: and you can build little buildings too, right, like temples

674
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: and stuff.

675
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: I remember StarCraft. I played StarCraft. That was sort of

676
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: the next level one, right yeah post Warcraft two, Yeah,

677
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: post wow. I really want to get a magic game

678
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: together with you guys. The only problem is Matt. I

679
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: know you would probably wipe the floor with me, so

680
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: it might not be fun. Ben, I can't.

681
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: I know you'd be great.

682
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: I know Matt would would be the greatest because he's

683
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: got the most experience.

684
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: I would be the worst, but I would still enjoy it.

685
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: Maybe we could start easy and play Munchkin first and

686
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: then look our way up to.

687
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: Matt got me a this is a very kind thing.

688
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: Years and years ago, Matt and our friend Tyler, a

689
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: super producer here at how Stuff Works got made a

690
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: magic deck for me for birthday.

691
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: They picked the right cards they thought would suit you

692
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: and gave you a good good It was well balanced deck.

693
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a pretty powerful black.

694
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Black and green, black and green deck.

695
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: Do you still have it?

696
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

697
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: Of course, I keep it at my desk in case,

698
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: in case the opportunity ever arises.

699
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: I want a deck.

700
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: That's cool.

701
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make my own deck and then we can

702
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: deck up nice.

703
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: And hopefully we can do that sooner rather than later.

704
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Speaking sooner rather than later, hopefully this mystery will be solved.

705
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wanted to ask you all, do

706
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: you feel like it's solved? Do you think they've they've

707
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: found this noise? This low frequency sound would therefore be

708
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: gas of some sort escaping the blast furnace, or it

709
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: would be just the operation of a specific blast furnace,

710
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: likely the one with the broken bell top.

711
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 4: Well, you know, first, Nol, I'd like to get your

712
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: opinion on something. Sure, I'm gonna have you pull up

713
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: this link on YouTube that's actually it's actually got a

714
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: spectral waveform of the hum recording, and I just want

715
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: you to tell me what you see here.

716
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is that what we're looking at

717
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: here as a spectral waveform, which is a very specific

718
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: type of view. It's a little more precise, and you

719
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: can use it to isolate sounds that you wouldn't normally see,

720
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: so you can see things almost like as events. For example,

721
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: So if I wanted to get rid of a particular.

722
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: Sound and leave other sounds.

723
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: I could look at the spectral waveform and see, oh, here,

724
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: at this moment, this other event happens. If you're just

725
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: looking at a standard wave form, everything's kind of tied together,

726
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: so there's really no differentiating one type of sound from another.

727
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: It's all like one thing.

728
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: That makes sense.

729
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: So in this spectral wave form, you can see that

730
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: the sound is a very low frequency sound between thirty

731
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: and forty hurts, just very very low in the spectrum,

732
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: and it goes along for about forty seconds, and then

733
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: around the fifty second mark, Matt, you pointed this out

734
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: to me off Mike, it pitches up a little bit

735
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 2: to about eighty to one hundred hertz and then stays

736
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: there kind of plateaus there. And in that spectral view

737
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: you can also kind of see a couple of little

738
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: extra events happening above that base level of the of

739
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: the sound, whereas in that zero to thirty portion of

740
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: it there's nothing.

741
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found this strange, and I thought maybe you'd

742
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: have some insight on it. It feels to me like

743
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: something possibly metal or mechanical, that is ceasing, a process

744
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 4: that is ceasing, which is too good man to your question.

745
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean this is you know, I'm not an expert,

746
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: but catch.

747
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: That from far away though you would only hear the

748
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: part of the sound that would carry you would only

749
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: hear the low, low, low, low, low frequency part that

750
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: would carry that long distance. Any little extra clang you

751
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: would only perceive that. I think if you were close.

752
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: Well, I guess if I'm imagining the furnace, the way

753
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 4: I'm imagining it is as you're like shutting the process down.

754
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 4: If you're just running it for a certain time, Sure,

755
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: as you're shutting it down. Perhaps there are some sounds

756
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 4: with a cracked like you said, a cracked bell that

757
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 4: just makes this higher pitch frequency. If you're really getting

758
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 4: all the resonance because they said it's aerial sound, right,

759
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: it's like resonance that's hitting the atmosphere coming back down.

760
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's true. And I will say we're not looking

761
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: at a cycle. I mean we're we're it obviously cycles consistently,

762
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: because we're looking at about a minute of this sound,

763
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: and then at the end of that minute that's where

764
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: this other event happens.

765
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean.

766
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: It's not like on a loop, there's something that changes

767
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: in the sound, And I see what you're saying, Matt,

768
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: This isn't We're not looking at a super spike in

769
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: high frequencies. It's just like a couple of you know,

770
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: ten twenty hurts higher, so it would be it would

771
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: still carry, but it could maybe represent some change in

772
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: process or something that happens physically to make the sound

773
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: contort in some way.

774
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: And I see what you're saying that does make sense.

775
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: And this builds a great case if that, if that

776
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: is always what we see each in each instance of

777
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: the hum. For now, despite the research, despite the UH effect,

778
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: this phenomenon has the quality of life people in and

779
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: around Windsor, Ontario, the hum continues as we record. There's

780
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: not much that Winsor can do. They are at a

781
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: stand still because even if the hum is caused by

782
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: this blast furnace, Winsor has no jurisdiction over the area.

783
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: The community organizations in charge of the river have been

784
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: very clear and saying that they're not going to continue

785
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: pouring money into the investigation. US Steel is not worried

786
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: about this thing or really responding to increase.

787
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Do you think it's really affecting people's quality of life? Ben, like,

788
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: did you get the sense from the research here that

789
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: it really is.

790
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: A problem.

791
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I when I was looking into it, I mean, obviously,

792
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: the entire city hasn't moved, so it's not as if

793
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: people are bleeding out of their ears and eyes or whatever.

794
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, this stuff can have a debilitating effect, is

795
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: doctor Kohan pointed out. And it may sound strange, folks,

796
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: as you're listening to this, it may sound strange to

797
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: think think that you might one day be in a

798
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: situation where a noise bugs you so much that you move.

799
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: But take that initial impression and play it out for

800
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: seven years.

801
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: Now, Well, do you guys remember that Curb Your Enthusiasm

802
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: episode where they move into this new house and there's

803
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: a house sound every night there Larry and Cheryl are

804
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: reading in bed and there's just this little real and

805
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: it just happens like once every now and then at night,

806
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: and they like have a workman come in, but he

807
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: only comes to night because that's the only time they

808
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: hear it. And then the episode ends with them like

809
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: laying in bed and they're talking and you can hear

810
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: them on the other.

811
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Boys quiet, Quiet, I can't hear the sound.

812
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: You know, they do end up moving because of the

813
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: house sound.

814
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: So you know, well, Larry David is also rather sensitive.

815
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: It was more Cheryl.

816
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, really, well, those noises can can of course,

817
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: they get drive you mad, have a bad effect, especially psychologically.

818
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: It's difficult to have an unpredictable noise.

819
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: It's true.

820
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why if you're ever already

821
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: kind of in an edgy mood and you have to

822
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: spend time with strangers and this probably Matt probably drives

823
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: you crazy as a talented percussionist. Like let's say you're

824
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: on a train somewhere, you're waiting in an elevator and

825
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: someone's just got a yeah beat and it's off, especially

826
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: if it's a little off exactly, And you know, I

827
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: wish you could see Matt's expression. We are speaking to

828
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: the choir on this one. But yeah, that unpredictability is

829
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: part of it, you know, that lack of agency in

830
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: your own home. So that is the case as it

831
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: stands today. And thank you to everybody wrote in and

832
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: asked us to take a look at this. I was

833
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 1: really impressed Neal and Matt by your your audio digging here.

834
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: As always, that was.

835
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: A fun moment. Thanks for bringing that up, Matt. It

836
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: was neat.

837
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: You are very much.

838
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Welcome and hums similar to windsors have been reported in,

839
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: as Matt said earlier, at least a dozen communities worldwide, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales.

840
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: You can check out our earlier video we did on

841
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know fail well on

842
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: YouTube and Amazon where we look at the tow hume.

843
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 2: Now, if there's a rattle connected with the hum, then

844
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: I blame the popular Irish band you.

845
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: Too, there's a little rattle in there.

846
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, if there's a you know they have that album

847
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: Rattle and Hum, it's a bad joke.

848
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that it's a deep cut.

849
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Well, we finally made it to our customary YouTube reference.

850
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are your thoughts on you two? What

851
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on YouTube Talking You two to me?

852
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to that one, but I love, love

853
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Love Josh. Are you talking Rim?

854
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: REMI?

855
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: With Scott Ackerman and Adam Scott it's their continuation of

856
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 2: the are you talking You two to me? But they

857
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: talk about rim and they it's I. I don't really

858
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: even listen to podcast that much. You guys, this one

859
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: lights up my life. I love it so much. Thank you,

860
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: Adam and Scott.

861
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so send us any of your correspondence. We'll make

862
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: sure they get it.

863
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: Right.

864
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: And also, speaking of correspondents, have you encountered the windsor

865
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: hum specifically, or something like the hum in your day

866
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: to day life in your neck of the Global Woods.

867
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: We would like to hear from you. Don't feel obligated,

868
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: but if you happen to catch it, we'd also love

869
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to hear an audio snippet of the sound you are describing,

870
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: because one thing we found was that this hum, in particular,

871
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: it was not affecting certain genders more than others, or

872
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: people of a certain age more than others, which is

873
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 1: fascinating because it ties into our earlier thing that Matt

874
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: brought to us from listener mail about using sound to

875
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: deter loiterers and ne'er duells from a leisure center smoking

876
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: out on the streets, smoking out on the streets, playing

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Speaker 1: crap bobbing for Apple's.

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Speaker 3: I prefer smoking in the boys room.

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Speaker 4: That's probably where. Yeah, that makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a leisure center. The rules are different.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Vegas of community centers. Folks, we have

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Speaker 1: built since that listener mail episode. We have built this

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Speaker 1: image of leisure centers in our minds that, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the real things will ever compare.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to raise some money to build

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Speaker 4: one right here in Atlanta, of Atlanta stuff.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to know leisure center. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 3: It will be our legacy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. You know what, We've earned it.

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Speaker 1: And presidents get libraries, maybe podcasters should get leisure centers.

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Speaker 3: There has to be a water slide, though, I'm putting

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Speaker 3: my foot down.

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