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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. All Right, here we go fifteen,

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Speaker 1: What's up, Degenerate Nation? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is twenty nineteen college football season Preview Episode two.

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Speaker 1: I'm stucky and I'm back for this episode with me

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Speaker 1: as always is Colin Wilson. What's going on? Colin?

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Speaker 2: I can't be happy to have you back, as being

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Speaker 2: the host is rough. It's pressure. You have to have timing,

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Speaker 2: you have to space things out, and you do that

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Speaker 2: a lot better than I do. So I'm glad you're back.

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Speaker 1: I think you did a good job handling the duty.

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Speaker 1: So if I ever get sick, I know that you can.

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Speaker 1: You can take over and everything will go smoothly. But

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back as well. I was. For

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Speaker 1: those of you that are new listeners to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: we are in a new location. The Action Network Podcast

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Speaker 1: is our third location. We were Dejenna Juice and last

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Speaker 1: leave a review, rate us, but you know, new location,

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Speaker 1: but it's the same format. We're still going to have

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Speaker 1: our voicemails. We're still going to go through in depth previews.

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Speaker 1: You had that great episode one where you talk through

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Power five win totals. Today we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about our overall broad up thoughts. And

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Speaker 1: again it's only July sixteenth, so these things can change.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna learn information as we approach. I think there's

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Speaker 1: only five more Saturdays about college football, by the way,

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Speaker 1: so sentiments that we have are gonna change. And some

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Speaker 1: of these wind totals or futures bets you want to

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Speaker 1: bet now or you might want to wait, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into all that. We're also going to talk with Brett McMurphy.

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Speaker 1: He's was at Big twelve media day, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: focus a lot on the Big twelve and some other

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Speaker 1: topics here. But happy to have you here during the

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Speaker 1: season again, same format. We're gonna have Sunday night episodes.

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Speaker 1: It'll come out on Monday, kind of looking back at

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Speaker 1: the weekend. It was previewing Monday night football weekday college

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Speaker 1: football games, and then we'll have the big episode on

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Speaker 1: Thursday nights. We're previewing the entire Saturday college football sleep.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for the first FCS or no talking

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Speaker 1: some FCSFBS matchups. I do have a note on an

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. But that's just a teaser. So let's get

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Speaker 1: into it here. Just very broad thoughts. And before we

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Speaker 1: get into this, I was telling someone earlier Coyle and

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Speaker 1: I use as an algi. I have a girlfriend, a

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Speaker 1: happy relationship. But if I was using an analogy of dating,

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Speaker 1: Colin is dating all of these girls as in teams,

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Speaker 1: he is in full fledged relationships. I'm just looking at

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Speaker 1: the tender profiles, trying to get, you know, a feel

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Speaker 1: for who these teams are, what their interests are. So

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Speaker 1: Colin is much more in the weeds. I'm getting there

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Speaker 1: and catching up. But that's why we will lean on

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Speaker 1: you in July. But let's start with a future that

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Speaker 1: we both bet as soon as we possibly could. When

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Speaker 1: It's now I think it's six to one there. We

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Speaker 2: Lagon Ship would be hitting them from fifty five yards

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Speaker 1: Yep. And the other kind of team that we've been

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Speaker 2: The value has been sucked out of it so fast.

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Speaker 1: And before we get you know, it's before we get

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you have to say who your

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Speaker 1: who are your four playoff teams?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get the controversy started. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: But my four spot's going to be Michigan and I

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Speaker 2: the plays. But I Michigan is my four spot, and

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Speaker 1: But no, Alabama, It's pretty close to what I have.

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Speaker 1: Although I am not as bold as of right now,

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Speaker 1: I still have Alabama in there with Georgia and Clemson boring.

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Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with them too much. But the

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Speaker 1: wildcard has got us. How much more will that offense

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Speaker 1: fourteen to one, so is Ohio State. I think Michigan

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Speaker 1: They host Ohio State. I think they're a better team.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, we'll have much more to say about

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Speaker 1: Welcome Brett McMurphy. How's it going, Brett, Hey, guys, good

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Speaker 3: A little bit less hectic than last summer, but glad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pleasure to have you. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: And you're down at the covering the Big twelve Media Day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, just ended the day two, the final day of

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Speaker 2: They really want you to know that the Big twelve

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know, I guess I see their point

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Speaker 2: I think it's quite amazing that Oklahoma has lost three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked, I actually asked Lincoln Riley that exact question.

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Speaker 3: A couple of thanks, Decky, Yeah, the you're right. The

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Speaker 2: Coach in the state of Kansas that has a TV show.

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Speaker 3: Series, must watch TV the wacky coach. Let's see him

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Speaker 3: No, but you're absolutely right. But I will say that

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody's going to have their Less Miles stories,

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Speaker 1: But he does.

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Speaker 1: this decade. So at least he has that going for him,

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Speaker 1: and the after game interviews should at least be interesting.

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Speaker 1: But I want to touch back on something you mentioned

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Speaker 1: with Oklahoma State. So there's three FBS schools in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: and Colina's Oklahoma, well and there's you know, I think

434
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Speaker 1: we as you said, Hurt should be the starting quarterback,

435
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Speaker 1: but there's no name starting quarterback in all three, even Tulsa.

436
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Speaker 1: They don't know their starting quarterback. Yeah, Boomer the Zack Smith,

437
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Speaker 1: the Baylor transfer skipper. I don't even know if he's

438
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Speaker 1: around or in the picture, but even they have a quarterback.

439
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Speaker 1: But I think the most interesting one is Oklahoma State

440
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Speaker 1: really intriguing team this year, one of the best receivers

441
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Speaker 1: in FBS and Tyland Wallace, but it's the Drew Brown

442
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Speaker 1: for Spencer Sanders. Sanders, you know, the highly talented red

443
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Speaker 1: shirt freshman, you know, former Texas Player of the Year.

444
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Speaker 1: And then Drew Brown, the experienced transfer from Hawaii who

445
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Speaker 1: started at Hawaii. Yeah, I think I've even read that

446
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Speaker 1: Gundy was saying, you know, maybe they have a you know,

447
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Speaker 1: go with two quarterbacks. What is your feel on what's

448
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Speaker 1: going on with Oklahoma State? Who's going to end up

449
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Speaker 1: with that job? If you have a feel there, And

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Speaker 1: I think Colin you want to ask about the Glease

451
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Speaker 1: and higher as well, right, I mean we.

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Speaker 2: Could start with the quarterbacks because I know that a

453
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Speaker 2: big part of gambling is some of these quarterback battles

454
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Speaker 2: that are happening at each individual's who and if anybody

455
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Speaker 2: should know Oklahoma State, it's probably Brett. So I wanted

456
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Speaker 2: to know about Drew Brown and Spencer Sanders specifically, and

457
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Speaker 2: then how does the hiring of Sean Gleeson from Princeton.

458
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Speaker 2: I saw Dundee State at the Big twelve media days

459
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Speaker 2: that they kind of run the same system, it's the

460
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Speaker 2: same set of plays, same playbook, and you know, I

461
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Speaker 2: didn't know if that was exactly true. I thought that

462
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Speaker 2: this would kind of be a more explosive if you

463
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Speaker 2: could get more explosive and what they've had in the

464
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Speaker 2: past years, but this would be even just a crazier

465
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Speaker 2: kind of offensive playbook going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, for yeah, So I'm an Okie State grad.

467
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Speaker 3: So obviously I talked to a lot of people about

468
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Speaker 3: who's going to be the quarterback, and I get a

469
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Speaker 3: lot of different answers, and basically it boils down to this.

470
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Speaker 3: Drew Brown is the safer, more conservative pick, if you will.

471
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Speaker 3: He's not going to make as many mistakes. He's more experienced, obviously,

472
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Speaker 3: he's got some starting experience under his belt. Spencer though,

473
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Speaker 3: Spencer Sanders obviously much more talented, a bigger upside, He's

474
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Speaker 3: got a big time on the problem is it's kind

475
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Speaker 3: of like Tiger Woods off the tee. Sometimes you don't

476
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Speaker 3: know where it's going. So they open up at Oregon State.

477
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Speaker 3: It should be a game they should be able to

478
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Speaker 3: take care of. But hey, you're going up to the Northwest.

479
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Speaker 3: I don't know what kick off it's if it's nighttime

480
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Speaker 3: or not. You may get some funky weather. That's a

481
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Speaker 3: weird place to play. It's certainly for if you've got

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Speaker 3: a freshman the quarterback making his first start. I've had

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Speaker 3: people tell me that Sanders is the guy. He's going

484
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Speaker 3: to be the guy, no doubt about it. And I've

485
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Speaker 3: also had people that I trust tell me that they

486
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Speaker 3: think Drew Brown will get to start early in the

487
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Speaker 3: year because of his experience, and then they'll bring Sanders

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Speaker 3: along slowly. But saying, people are telling me, if you

489
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Speaker 3: ask me who's going to be the starting quarterback in November,

490
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Speaker 3: they think it'll be Sanders. So again, Gundy says, and

491
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Speaker 3: I believe I take him at his word that right

492
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Speaker 3: now he doesn't know who it's going to be. When

493
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Speaker 3: it is determined, he said, he will announce that he's

494
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Speaker 3: not going to hold it till the evening day. But

495
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Speaker 3: like Stucky said, he did mention, you know, look, if

496
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Speaker 3: neither one of these guys separates he goes, I'll play

497
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Speaker 3: both of them. And as far as Sean Gleeson, you know,

498
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Speaker 3: Gundy's really pumped about him, and I think calling what

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Speaker 3: you're referring to. And I actually sent out the tweet,

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Speaker 3: and after i'd sent it out, I think I saw

501
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Speaker 3: people may have misinterpreted it. Gundy said, we're gonna run

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Speaker 3: the same things we've run at Oklahoma State the past

503
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Speaker 3: few years with Gleason. We're not going to change. So

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Speaker 3: he wasn't he wasn't insinuating they were gonna run Princeton stuff.

505
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Speaker 3: He basically said, we're gonna do stuff that we that

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Speaker 3: we've been doing here. So he obviously had a great

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Speaker 3: track record at Princeton. I know Bill Connelly's really high

508
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Speaker 3: on him. Gleason is the offensive coordinator. But you look

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Speaker 3: at Oklahoma State last year. I mean they were freaking

510
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Speaker 3: zechoing Highe four and one against rank the Puntans. The

511
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Speaker 3: only loss one point at Oklahoma when they they had

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Speaker 3: a wide open receiver for the winning two point conversion

513
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Speaker 3: and he threw it five feet behind him. But then

514
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Speaker 3: they were two and four against FBS on ranked teams,

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Speaker 3: you know, and Gundy took it upon himself He addressed

516
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Speaker 3: it to the team earlier this spring and said, look, guys,

517
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Speaker 3: it was my fault. I let a lot of things slides.

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Speaker 3: I'd let you guys get away with stuff. There wasn't

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Speaker 3: as much accountability. He's hoping that kind of changes the

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Speaker 3: mind set. But even with that, Oklahoma States picked, you know,

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Speaker 3: somewhere middle of the pack in the Big Twelve this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the interesting things about Glahoma State

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Speaker 1: that is perplexing. Like you said, they've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of wins over ranked teams. They've won ten games in

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Speaker 1: four of the last six years, but you know, the

526
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Speaker 1: last two years at home, they've had some head scratching

527
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Speaker 1: losses there, eight and five at home the past two years.

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Speaker 1: The over under and by the way, before I get

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Speaker 1: the over under, they do whatever they decide at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and they have a new coordinator. They do have three

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Speaker 1: winnable games to start the year, which I think is huge,

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Speaker 1: and they should get some momentum with their quarterback and

533
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Speaker 1: their new system. You know, however, whatever tweaks at Lisa

534
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Speaker 1: makes and then they play Texas or they're trying to

535
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Speaker 1: beat them, I think for the fifth straight time. So

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Speaker 1: I think that that does help them over under seven

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Speaker 1: and a half win wins this year. If you had

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Speaker 1: a bet at where are you leaning there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with everything you're saying, and as long

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Speaker 3: as they don't stumble at Oregon State, then they should

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Speaker 3: be three and oh going at Texas. Can they beat

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Speaker 3: them a fifth straight time? That may be tough to do,

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Speaker 3: So basically, if it's would you say at seven and

544
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Speaker 3: a half? So basically, if you look at a three

545
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Speaker 3: and oh non conference, then can they go five and

546
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Speaker 3: form the league? That's that's what you're that's what you're

547
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Speaker 3: wagering on. I would say yes they can because I

548
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Speaker 3: think the only definite losses are Oklahoma, probably at Texas

549
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Speaker 3: they will be an underdog even though they beat them consistently,

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Speaker 3: and at Iowa State, and then after that, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think they will be either a prohibitive or small

552
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Speaker 3: favorite the rest of the way. So basically, you're looking

553
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Speaker 3: at three games they should win to start out, three

554
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Speaker 3: they should lose, and then they can they go you

555
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Speaker 3: know what, three and three and two the rest of

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Speaker 3: the way. I think they can, So I would probably

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Speaker 3: take the over on that.

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Speaker 2: I definitely would take the over on I mean I'm

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Speaker 2: still taking the over again. I think Jersey opened it

560
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Speaker 2: up five and a half and we got some money

561
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Speaker 2: down there, you know, finally had some six and a

562
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Speaker 2: half's pop up seven popped up and I've been buying

563
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Speaker 2: this ever since. And the whole thing about Texas is

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Speaker 2: I always kind of just count Texas as a win

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Speaker 2: because Herman has not beaten Company since he was an

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Speaker 2: assistant at Iowa State in two thousand and nine. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that game last year was a perfect example of what

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State's entire season was because they went into that

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Speaker 2: bye week with a lot of questions. They didn't know

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Speaker 2: what was going on. They had offensive linemen that were

571
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Speaker 2: missing assignments, pulling guards that were going the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: They had just all kinds of problems among the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: and they had two weeks to prepare in a bye

574
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Speaker 2: week to just get everybody on the same page, and

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Speaker 2: they came out and beat Texas. And I just listen,

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Speaker 2: if Tom Herman is going to be a favorite at

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Speaker 2: home against Oklahoma State, then I know I'm taking the

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Speaker 2: Polks as a dog in that spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the weirdest thing, because you know, O, you

580
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Speaker 3: in Texas obviously that so much is made about that

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Speaker 3: rivalry and those teams have played and those have been that,

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Speaker 3: you know, historically the two best teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: But then you look at the success Oklahoma States had

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Speaker 3: against Texas. I can't I can't explain it. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how it happens. You know, I know Oklahoma State

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Speaker 3: has you know Texas is that we're out of state schools.

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Speaker 3: I think Oklahoma State or I think they have more

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Speaker 3: than Oklahoma either either first or second for the most

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Speaker 3: Texas players on the roster. So maybe that's just maybe

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Speaker 3: that's part of the reason for the success.

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Speaker 1: These are guys.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't get recruited by Texas the cliche chip

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Speaker 3: on the shoulder and they come to play against the

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Speaker 3: long ones every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. We're speaking with Brett McMurphy College

596
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Speaker 1: Football Insider at Stadium. You can find them on Twitter

597
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: at Brett to tease underscore McMurphy. Let's go through some

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Speaker 1: rapid fire questions here. We can expand it outside of

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve two Kyle, and we can go back

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Speaker 1: and forth. I'll start just that Oklahoma is minus one

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Speaker 1: forty ish to win the Big Twelve they're going for

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Speaker 1: their fifth straight title. Do they get it done once

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Speaker 1: again this year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean I think over unders

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Speaker 3: ten and a half, I think you have to take

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma until somebody beats them. But you know, the big

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Speaker 3: question is what differences there are with Jalen Hurts. In

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Speaker 3: no way am I saying Jalen Hurts is Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: But I think what's funny is people knock his his

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Speaker 3: passing ability, and rightly so that's why he was benched.

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Speaker 3: But actually his freshman year at Alabama, he attempted three

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty two passes. That's five more than Murray

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Speaker 3: did last year when in the Heisman, So he can

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Speaker 3: sling it around, you know, hopefully he can hit some

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Speaker 3: wide open receivers. But until somebody beats Oklahoma, I got

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Speaker 3: to take the Sooners to repeat them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think the question that

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Speaker 1: I have with Oklahoma, and I would agree with you

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Speaker 1: that they are the primitive favorite, is that people are

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Speaker 1: talking about a little bit but maybe not enough, is

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Speaker 1: their offensive line. They've had the best offensive line in

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Speaker 1: college football, are one of the best the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. They lose four starters. So while they've had

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Speaker 1: back to back Heisman quarterbacks and you know that are

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and succeeding or will succeed, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of that has to be on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They had a ton of time to throw. So does that,

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Speaker 1: you know, do they take a step back because the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is down grade? Obviously they have a ton

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Speaker 1: of talent coming in to replace those guys. But that's

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Speaker 1: something to keep keep in mind that Oklahoma's success at

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Speaker 1: the quarter back position over the past two years, Yes,

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Speaker 1: was because of talented quarterbacks, but those guys up front,

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Speaker 1: they helped the ton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. And somebody asked Lincoln Riley, you know,

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Speaker 3: basically because of the offensive line losses and Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: Leaving basically said, you know, now that these guys are gone,

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Speaker 3: you know, you expect to dip on offense, do you hope?

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Speaker 3: And I think what we haven't talked about yet is

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma's defense. I mean they were got offul last year.

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Speaker 3: Alex Grintch, I think is one of the best offseason highers.

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Speaker 3: That would be a huge difference. But he was asked,

643
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Speaker 3: you know, without you know, Kyler in your offensive line,

644
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: do you think the offense won't be as good, but

645
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: maybe the defense will compensate for whatever the offense doesn't

646
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: do compared to last year. And he said, look, we

647
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: don't plan on the offense dipping and we definitely expect

648
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: the defense to be better. So again, you know, is

649
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: this coach speaker, does he really believe it? But you're right, Stucky,

650
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: I think that gets overlooked a lot with the offensive line,

651
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: but their skill guys are just so so good, and

652
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: Jalen does have the ability to run around. He's certainly

653
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: not a scrambler like Kirk Kyler. Murray's more of a

654
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: back type runner. But yeah, they're still the most talented

655
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: team in the conference and one of the top talents

656
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: in the whole country.

657
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: I think the hiring of Alex Grinch cannot be stated enough.

658
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: And it's the reason that I've got money on OU

659
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: to make the playoff, and it's the reason why I've

660
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 2: got you know, money in various places to you know,

661
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: pro Oklahoma, and it's because he's going to get the

662
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: guys in the right place. He's not about scheme and

663
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: he's not about you know, stunts. He's more about getting

664
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: helmets to the football he wants every single helmet around

665
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: the football during the tackle. He's going to have them

666
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: lined up correctly. He's going to have them, you know,

667
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: ready to go. And the scheme that he actually does

668
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: run is very familiar with air raid offenses, which is

669
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: you know, prevalent through the Big Twelve. I mean, this

670
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: was Mike Leech's defensive coordinator up at Washington State, and

671
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Alex Grinch was able to just produce a great defense

672
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 2: up there. It was a havoc defense. I mean they

673
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: were causing fumbles and knocking the passes down, and you know,

674
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: I just don't think he ever was able to do

675
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: his own thing at Ohio State because there are too

676
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: many cooks in the kitchen on the defensive side of

677
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: the ball. This Alex Grinch hiring is just completely underrated.

678
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: It's not talked about enough.

679
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. And also you look

680
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: at the schedule. The toughest road game, it's hard to

681
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: pick one out At Baylor, maybe at Oklahoma State, they

682
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: get Iowa State and Norman. Obviously Iowa State upset and

683
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: last time at Norman, So yeah, I think it. You know, look,

684
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: if Oklahoma doesn't get to the College Football playoff and

685
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: win the Big Twelve championship. I'm not saying it's as

686
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: big a shock if Clemson and Alabama both don't make it,

687
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: but it would be fairly close based on what they

688
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: have coming back and the way the schedule sets up, I.

689
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: Would tend to agree. One of the teams you mentioned

690
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: is Iowa State. Now, if I'm going to pick a

691
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: team that wins the Big Twelve, that's not Oklahoma. A

692
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: lot of people might pick Texas. Colin is high on

693
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, but maybe you pick Oklahoma State. But Iowa

694
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: State is really interesting to me with Rock Party under center,

695
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell, great coach, They're great in the trenches, they

696
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: bring a ton back in the trenches, great at linebacker,

697
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: offensive line. The biggest question mark is you're replacing your

698
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: two best skill position players in Montgomery and Butler. But

699
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: if they can compensate for those losses get some production

700
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: in the backfield, I think they'll be okay at tight

701
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: ended receiver. Iowa State is a really interesting team, a

702
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: team that I think wins at least eight games. Again,

703
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: they're over under I think is at eight right now.

704
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Any any feel on Iowa State?

705
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked him a lot. I mean, you know,

706
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: I talked to Matt Campbell, he was there today and

707
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: I talked with some Iowa State folks and basically asked

708
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: him specifically, what you're talking about the loss of Montgomery keeen.

709
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: Butler was a beast at wide receiver. I think the

710
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: feeling is there, you know, the way college football is now,

711
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: you know, running backs or diam it does and not

712
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: to you know, downgrade what Montgomery did last year. But

713
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: certainly I think they can replace him. And I you know,

714
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: I think the Butler loss could be bigger, but the

715
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: Iowa State folks I talked to today think that they're

716
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 3: going to be fine. That you know, by just by committee.

717
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of people back that kind of

718
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: offset his loss. And you know, as long as party

719
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: does not have a sophomore slump and can do it

720
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: he did, you know the second half of last year. Man,

721
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: I really like them, you know the question. You know,

722
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: they've got Iowa the Syhawks series in Week three, their

723
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: second game they play in a lot of years that

724
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: they don't win that game, they do get him in

725
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: ames if they can take care of Iowa there this

726
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: you know, the schedule you know, we keep talking about

727
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: the schedule, but I think that's a big part. The

728
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: schedule sets up really nice for them. They get Oklahoma

729
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 3: State and Ames and then they have to go at

730
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and Norman and to get Texas and Ams back

731
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: to back weeks. So if they're going to have any

732
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: shot to get to the Big Twelve championship game, we're

733
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: going to have to split that Ou Texas back to

734
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: back setup. But yeah, I really like them, and you know,

735
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: the good news for Iowa State is you've got a

736
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: team that can possibly get to the Big twelve title game.

737
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: The bad news for Iowa State is more and more

738
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: people are going to come after your coach because he

739
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: is that talented. And I think he is the next

740
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: star of the college ranks if and when he ever

741
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: decides to lead when maybe we you know, I talked

742
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: to him today about the NFL. He said that was

743
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: never really a goal of his, but certainly if the

744
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: NFL come snipping around, he would have to listen. At

745
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: some point.

746
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Well, it usually means he's gonna end up in the

747
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: SEC if he's going to move up to the big boys,

748
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: So switching to the SEC, Brett, while you while you've

749
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: been at Big twelve media day. Ed Ogeron today took

750
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the stage and wanted to tell everybody that he has

751
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: seen the playbook, uh and that the spread is in

752
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: the playbook. The wording was a little funky, but I

753
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: think you know what he's trying to say is is

754
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: they're going to have a different offensive philosophy this year.

755
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: And I think if anybody wants to watch tape or

756
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: you know, hop on YouTube, because generally I'll hop on

757
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: to watch Princeton's offense or I'll watch something from last year.

758
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: But that Bowl game against UCF last year, they lined

759
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: up four wides and let Joe Burrow just sling it

760
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: all day. I mean they threw that. They threw more

761
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: times in that game than they almost did the entire

762
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: rest of the season. So if LSU becomes this passing offense,

763
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: this this uh maybe up tempo spread, you know, what

764
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: does it look like for Joe Burrow's Heisman status? What

765
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: does it look like for LSU possibly beating Alabama? I mean,

766
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: does just change the landscape whatsoever in the SEC? If

767
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: LSU has a competent passing offense.

768
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, And that's the thing you look at

769
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: last year. Their first nine games, Burrow had six touchdown

770
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: passes in four interceptions in his first nine games. In

771
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: his last four games pm touchdown passes, one interception. LSU

772
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: average three hundred and sixty three yards their first nine

773
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: four ninety one their last four contests. Now, part of

774
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: that's probably competition decided to bring this up calling, but

775
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Arkansas was one of those final four games, obviously the

776
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: bowl game against JUCF. So did they figure things out

777
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: or was it the competition was easier? Probably? I think

778
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: it's probably a little bit of both. But I really

779
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: think if you ask me who are the best five

780
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: teams in the country, LSU would be in my top five.

781
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: If you ask me who's going to finish in the

782
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: top five, LSU's not in my top five because their

783
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: schedule is so unbelievably tough. They host Florida, Auburn, Texas

784
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: A and m oh yeah. They got to visit Texas

785
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: in week two. They also visit to Alabama. They lost

786
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: eight straight to the Crimson Tide, so they're gonna have

787
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: to pull off some major upsets. I don't think anyone's

788
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, kind of wish you wash you on at

789
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: oderon they either love the guy or they don't think

790
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: he's that good of a coach. I think I think

791
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: he's very underrated for the fact that you look at

792
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: the number of games he's been as a coach there

793
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: at LS shoot, thirty four games. Of those thirty four games,

794
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: they have played sixteen ranked opponents, So basically every other

795
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: week he's playing a ranked opponent. He's ten and six

796
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: against ranked teams, fifteen and three against unranked teams. He's

797
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: winning the games he's supposed to, and he's basically, you know,

798
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 3: a little bit over five hundred against ranked opponents. That's

799
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: pretty decent. But man, that schedule's so tough. But if

800
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: coach O's telling the truth and they're going to fling

801
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: it around, then maybe they will make some noise and

802
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: shake things up. Because the only the only thing that

803
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: has been holding back LSU and you look at all

804
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: the offensive talent they've had in the past, especially the

805
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: wide receivers, is the is their offensive scheme. So we'll

806
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: see if they can they can change things. And if so, man,

807
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: it's going to make a crazy se see West even

808
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: crazier because you've got Alabama obviously, you got Jimbo at

809
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: Texas A and M, et cetera, et cetera.

810
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about a tough schedule in Texas A and

811
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: M with Georgia, Clemston and Alabama. Crazy.

812
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to really jump on Missouri because I've kind

813
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: of been hot on the over the total with these guys.

814
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: They return so much and the schedule is just very

815
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: extremely It's gonna be easy to navigate when you have

816
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: teams like Southeast Missouri on the on the scene, Cimos

817
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: on your schedule, and you know, I think these guys

818
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of have a chip on the shoulder with a

819
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: whole bull band, but that could get lifted. Is there

820
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: any anything with the latest on Missouri whether they're going

821
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: to participate, because otherwise Arkansas turns in another bowl game

822
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, which could be important

823
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: to capping. No.

824
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: You know, I've asked some people about that. They're still

825
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: waiting for the NCAA. Even the biggest, most optimistic people

826
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: really don't think there's much of a shot that the

827
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: NCAA would reverse that, which is unfortunate. You know, we

828
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: could go down a rabbit hole of n c a A.

829
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: You know, penalties and all the difference as penalties they

830
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: dish out. I think it's probably unlikely, but you're you're right.

831
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: I really like Missouri too. I think Kelly Bryance it

832
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: got something to prove. He's I think he's gonna He's

833
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: a perfect fit to come in there. And yeah, their

834
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: schedule is is cut cake city. I mean they if

835
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: they don't get upset, they should be eight to o

836
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: when they visit Georgia on November ninth, and then they

837
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: get Florida and Columbia the next the next week. But

838
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: you wonder if again, we've seen teams that haven't been

839
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: able to go to bowl games. Ohio State, Auburn, they

840
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: went undefeated. You know, they had something to prove. Will

841
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: they be able to do that? Or if you do

842
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: have that motivation and you get tripped up and you

843
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: lose a game, does the ceiling just or does the

844
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: floor just drop out and you know, and you just

845
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: you just tail spin the rest of the way. But

846
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: I've got all my pre spent spring top twenty five

847
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: at Missouri at number twenty two. I think they are

848
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: a top twenty five program, and I think it's all

849
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: going to boil down to how they deal with this

850
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: Bowl ban. If it doesn't get lifted.

851
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting for sure. Bred you mentioned top five who

852
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: finish this top five? Let me ask you a two

853
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: part question. It's again this is preliminary. You can change it.

854
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Do you have, as of right now a college ball playoff?

855
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: And the second part of the question is do you

856
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: have a preference if you could start it over, how

857
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: we do this, whether it's fourteen two team, go back

858
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: to BCS eighteen whatever. Do you think to the system

859
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: right now as we have it is perfect? Or would

860
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: you change it? So two part question there, who are

861
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: you four as of right now? And would you change

862
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: the system? If so, how would.

863
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: You well, if we have to say at four teams,

864
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: if that's my I mean, I would you know. I'm

865
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: one of the guys that want an eighteen playoffs too,

866
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: But bottom line is we're not going to see one

867
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: until the current contract is up. We got seven more years,

868
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: so you gotta wait. I don't care what anybody says.

869
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: I don't care who says, oh there's a look in

870
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: clause and all that stuff. It ain't gonna happen. So

871
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: we got to wait till that's done. With that said,

872
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: you know what, I have no problem with the way

873
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: the BCS was done. I think the reason the BCS failed,

874
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: or was beauty failure, is it because they only had

875
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: two teams. Because when you look at the you know

876
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: there's somebody out there a Twitter account or somebody who

877
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: looks at the BCS rankings compared with the College Football

878
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: Playoff rankings, and I think they've been identical on their

879
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: on their top four since the playoff has started. So

880
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't had any problem with doing the BCS at least,

881
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, with the computer rankings what is being graded

882
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: on as opposed to something subjective where it's just somebody's opinion.

883
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: So I would I would actually stick with the BCS

884
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: because you're gonna end up with the same teams anyway.

885
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: My four teams, I've got Clemson number one. I think

886
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: they'll repeat. I've actually got too Orgit number two. I

887
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: think you know they have. They would turn a ton

888
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: of people back Jake fromm Obviously, they've got fifteen starters,

889
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: eleven of which were freshmen or sophomores last year, So

890
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: I think they'll really make a big jump. And I

891
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: think that that grease fire against Texas will be a

892
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: big motivation for them. Alabama much dip slightly when I

893
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: rank them third, you thought, according to Alabama fans, I

894
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: ranked them thirty third. There's some regression there because they

895
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: had so much turnover. And this is a crazy this

896
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: sound probably the dumbest thing you'll hear out of my mouth.

897
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: I think Saban is vastly underrated for what he's done,

898
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 3: and I don't think people will appreciate it until he's

899
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: until he's done at Alabama. But what he's done every

900
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: year has been remarkable. But how how can he continue

901
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: being in the top two. I think they regress slightly

902
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: because they had a record seven early entrants in the

903
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: NFL Draft. They've lost seven assistants for the third consecutive year.

904
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: They're replacing an offensive and defensive coordinator. Look, they're going

905
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: to skate through the regular season. They're going to be twelve.

906
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: And oh then they played Georgia. I think Georgia finally

907
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: gets past them. I'll put bamat three, and then I've

908
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: got Oklahoma at four. Win in the Big twelve, so

909
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, here we go again, another Alabama, Georgia Clemson

910
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Oklahoma shake up, and you know, just Clemson and Alabama

911
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: playing the semiser in the final, but I like Clemson

912
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: over Georgia in.

913
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: The right now. Yeah, that's a similar final four to Colin,

914
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: although he doesn't have Alabama. The interesting thing we'll get

915
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: to this later in the season, but is if Michigan

916
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: wins the Big Ten, Oklahoma wins the Big Twelve with

917
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: one loss each, and you assume Clemson, Alabama and Georgia.

918
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: But that's for a much later discussion before we let

919
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: you go, Brett, I feel like we talked a lot

920
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: about the Big Twelve and Texas fans will be mad

921
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: as we don't mention Texas. Colin, I know that you're

922
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: probably lower than anyone in the world on Texas. I'll

923
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: let you ask any question you want about Texas. Yeah.

924
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: So, I don't know if I want to go win

925
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: total or how much money should I put on Texas

926
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: not making the playoff or I think I think the

927
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: biggest fear is, you know, is Texas. I've had a

928
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: lot of Texas fans hop in my DMS and they've said,

929
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: are we back?

930
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: Are why are we not back?

931
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: We beat Georgia, we should be back. You should be

932
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: giving us more credit. And I really just go back

933
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: to how many turnovers they had how many close games

934
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: they won, including you know, games like against Kansas and

935
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: the ability to fall apart against like Oklahoma State. That's

936
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: a game that they should have won last year. I

937
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: think when it comes down to it, I just don't

938
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: like the brand of football they played with no running

939
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: back and then Sam Elger tries to just force his

940
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: way to get first downs. They're going to try to

941
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: rely on the long ball. I don't think they had

942
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: a play that went over fifty yards last year.

943
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: They were one of only two teams in the country

944
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: that didn't have a offensive play over fifty yards last year. Unfortunately,

945
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: I don't know who the other team was, maybe Army.

946
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: No, they played Houston. They're still scoring against Houston. Those

947
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: were all over fifty. I think we should start off

948
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: with this. The question should be Texas LSU. It was

949
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: at the Westgate Game of the Year as a pick.

950
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Who do you think wins that game?

951
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: Brett?

952
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm biased because I talked to you about this,

953
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: and you know, I think I was drinking the kool

954
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: aid like everyone else, and you kind of got me

955
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: to look at look a little deeper into things, and yeah,

956
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean I'm going to go with the LSU, and

957
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: you're to blame. So if you're wrong, you know I'll

958
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: send you the bill. But basically Texas, let's look at

959
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: why Texas only has three defensive starters back. They've got

960
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: Cayden Stearns and Brandon Jones are two safeties and linebacker

961
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: Malcolm Roach. They lost a ton of senior leadership on

962
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, and offensively only five

963
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: returning starters. So yeah, everyone's looking at the overall win

964
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: loss record, and you're right when you look at the

965
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: stats and the numbers if you take their name of

966
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: the off of the status sheet and look at the

967
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 3: stats at the team that probably should have went seven

968
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: and five last year and instead they went ten and four.

969
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: And as you guys know, that's stuff themes to even

970
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: out the next year. And I think that's what's going

971
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: to happen. I think the LSU games huge because you

972
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: look again, LSU Oklahoma at Iowa State, they're underdogs in

973
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: those three games. They could be an underdog at Baylor.

974
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: I think Baylor isn't It could be an eight maybe

975
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: nine win team. Matt Rules got to go in there.

976
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: And then they play Oklahoma State, which they've lost four

977
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: straight too. They get him in Austin. So there's there's

978
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: three definite underdog roles and then two toss up games

979
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: and then it's funny. Today I was talking with a

980
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: lot of the beat guys at Texas and they were

981
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: actually they were putting an over under on how many

982
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: games Sam Ellenser misses with an injury, and they were

983
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: like two two and a half. So now you take

984
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Ellens out of the offense against any of those five opponents,

985
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: it's going to be tough to win those games. And

986
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, last year, they you know, they struggled

987
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: against Kansas. The Baylor game came down to, you know,

988
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: hail Mary in the end zone in the in the

989
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: final minute or whatever. So basically every break went their way.

990
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: Certainly they dominated as Georgia team. I don't want to

991
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: I don't care how unmotivated they were. They still they

992
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: lined up and they beat their ass. But I think

993
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: this year, I think there is going to be some

994
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: regression there. I even asked Sam Ellinger today, I said,

995
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: when you said Texas is back, what exactly did you mean?

996
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: And he said, well, I was basically celebrating. I really

997
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: wasn't specifically saying, you know anything that were at this

998
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: point or whatever. But I think a lot of people

999
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: are bought just blindly. Look at Texas ten wins last year.

1000
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: They beat Georgia, so now they're going to improve on that.

1001
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm drinking Collins kool aid, and I think they're gonna

1002
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna regress to you know, eight wins, maybe maybe nine.

1003
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: Texas is a simple team. People. They beat the teams

1004
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: that no one thinks they're going to beat, and then

1005
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna watch They'll be down at the half of

1006
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: the week one to lot Tech. Okay, So I was.

1007
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Going to bring that up because La Tech. Everybody asked me,

1008
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: you know, isn't Texas back? And here's what I think

1009
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: that Texas has to do to impress me, and what

1010
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: sam Ellnger has to do to impress me, is that

1011
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: he starts off with two of the best defensive backs

1012
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: on the schedule in the entire nation. He gets a

1013
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Mick Robertson at Louisiana tack who's gonna play in the

1014
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: NFL and probably be a high round draft pick. And

1015
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: then after that he gets Grant delpit over at LSU.

1016
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: So beat those two teams have an impressive passing game,

1017
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: have a clean box score. I don't want you to

1018
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: beat LSU by three, but be given four turnovers and

1019
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: then we'll finally say Texas is back. But other than that,

1020
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 2: you know, until then, my money's going to be against them.

1021
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: Well, Herman talked about today literally that about we have

1022
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: an NFL system, we run you know, NFL routes, we

1023
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: use NFL packages, so basically saying we're not going to

1024
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: be a chuck and duck type team. So he is

1025
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: gonna again if you're playing playing in game totals, it

1026
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: sounds like he would prefer a lower scoring type game.

1027
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: But you know, with all those defensive losses, I think

1028
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to get in some shootouts. And the

1029
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: question is, you know, can Ellenser do it again? And

1030
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: certainly it's with as much as he runs the ball,

1031
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: can he stay healthy all season? I think that's the biggest,

1032
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: biggest factor which determines if Texas is back or if

1033
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: they you know, kind of stumble stumble this year.

1034
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I think that's a great point. If Texa,

1035
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: If Texas beats LSU, Texas fans, send your hate to

1036
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Colin and then send your hate to Brett, who will

1037
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: forward it to Colin because Colin is spreading his Texas

1038
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: hate all across the globe. Thanks for joining us, Brett.

1039
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: We'll have you on later in the summer. If you

1040
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: would like to join us. We'll talk some Big ten

1041
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan. We can talk some updated Big twelve

1042
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: because we're gonna have some updated quarterback battles and we're

1043
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot more information as the summer goes on.

1044
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: So again, Brett McMurphy, Collegeable inside of a stadium. You

1045
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: can catch them on Twitter at Brett Underscore McMurphy. Thanks

1046
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: again for joining us. Brett.

1047
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks guys, Let's do it again. I really enjoyed it.

1048
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Brett for joining us. Before we get

1049
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: out of here, let's just spend a couple of minutes

1050
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: on some Big twelve teams and win totals of teams

1051
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about. I'll start with one we

1052
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: talked about, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Iowa State. They'll even

1053
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: touch on some Kansas, and there's a couple teams left

1054
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: there that we didn't really get into as far as

1055
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: their win totals are concerned. I'll start with probably my

1056
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: favorite win total. Look, every single year, I have an opinion,

1057
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: and I'm invested in West Virginia. It was all about

1058
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: the under two years ago than the over last year.

1059
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm back to the under look. I know it's low

1060
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: at five, and everyone is low in West Virginia, but

1061
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: I can't find five wins on the schedule, and that's

1062
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: if I even give them a win in Week one.

1063
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: So Jo was gonna mention FCS team over JMU, who

1064
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: is absolutely loaded. I mean they have a defensive starter

1065
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: back at every single position, and you know they bring

1066
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: back a ton of talent on offense. They're number one

1067
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: I believe they're number one preseason JMU in FCS. So

1068
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: I think they could beat West Virginia, especially with that defense.

1069
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I have a whole new staff they have. You know,

1070
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a new quarterback. There's you know, between

1071
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: Allison and the other kid. They just lost a ton

1072
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: and a bunch of transfers. I can't find five wins

1073
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: on the schedule, even if they beat James Madison. West

1074
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: Virginia under five might be my favorite big twelve win total.

1075
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: What say you about that? And where do you want

1076
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: to touch on Max.

1077
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: It's definitely the way to go because we tried not

1078
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: to invest in teams that have a new coach, new schemes,

1079
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 2: new quarterback, and in this case, missing your top three

1080
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: wide receivers. I think you've lost lost three of your

1081
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: five offensive linemens. So there's gonna be a learning curve

1082
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: here all over, because you know what Holgerson was running

1083
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: versus what Neil Brown was running at Troy or two

1084
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: completely different things. Now, Action Network mathematically we had this

1085
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: at five point seven. Caesars just opened this up at

1086
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: five and a half with a little bit of juice

1087
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: to the under, but you're right, fading them and going

1088
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: under five and a half is the only way to go.

1089
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. A couple of teams we didn't talk about. Baylor.

1090
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: You know they have Charlie Brewer back. Interesting team. I mean,

1091
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, over under, I think it's seven and a half.

1092
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: There's sixteen to one to be Big twelve. I don't

1093
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: really want any part of this half. I mean, I think,

1094
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: you know it might come down to they play Oklahoma

1095
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: and Texas and back to back weeks at home towards

1096
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: the end of the year, and then a potential letdown

1097
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: spot after that at Kansas. So I think that I

1098
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: might be able to just bet them as a home

1099
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: dog in one of those spots, and it's going to

1100
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: be close. That's seven and a half. You know, I

1101
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: love Rule, I love Brewer, but seven and half looks

1102
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: right to many any feel in Baylor.

1103
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you that they're going to

1104
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: be a team that we play, we look to play

1105
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: on week to week, and not a team that we

1106
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: want to invest in a lot. Preseason. I think they

1107
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: opened up thirty to one to win the Big Twelve,

1108
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: but I mean that it takes a lot of things

1109
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: for that to happen. When your win total seven and

1110
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: a half, you're gonna have to overachieve and get to

1111
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: nine or ten to get into that game. So we

1112
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: have them at seven point seven on the Action Network,

1113
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: and so seven and a half is completely correct. But

1114
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 2: you're right this November schedule, they go to TCU, then

1115
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: they have Oklahoma Texas, and they end up with Kansas.

1116
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: But they're going to upset one of those two, Oklahoma

1117
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: or Texas and really ruin one of their seasons. Hopefully

1118
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: it's Texas and not Oklahoma. But you're right, Baylor's gonna

1119
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: snatch up, but they're gonna get somebody and it's going

1120
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: to be you know, in November, and that will be

1121
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: there to play them.

1122
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Aready see myself after that upset? I forget who they

1123
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: played second, Oklahoma or Texas. I can already see myself

1124
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: playing Kansas. God in the final week of the year.

1125
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: They're playing Texas before Thanksgiving and then Kansas the weekend

1126
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving. So can you imagine having a Kansas bet

1127
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: against West Virginia while you're having turkey leftovers?

1128
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be rough. And then another team that we

1129
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't talk about a lot, Kansas State. Obviously, Bill Snyder

1130
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: is out. Climbing is in, by the way. Over the

1131
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: last five years Division one obviously different levels of competition,

1132
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: but Climbon had the most wins over the last five years,

1133
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: had sixty nine nice wins and Saban was next with

1134
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: sixty seven. But the guy knows how to win. He's

1135
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: gone on the road and beating FBS teams. The Kansas

1136
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: State over five and a half. I think juice plus

1137
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: money on the over. There's a lot of questions on offense.

1138
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean Skylar Thompson is going to be presumed the quarterback.

1139
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of running back. James Gilbert, the

1140
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: ball State transfer might get a lot of carries there.

1141
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some other guys in play the skill

1142
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: position players. There's a lot of questions also, question on defense,

1143
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: new system, it's you know, it's it's a tough team

1144
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: to read at five and a half. I think I'm

1145
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: going to learn a lot about them early on a team.

1146
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: I don't really want to wager on the wind total.

1147
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: Any feel on Kansas State.

1148
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're going to play Nichols to start off,

1149
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: so you know, we're going back to claiming as a

1150
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: shot against an FCS.

1151
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Team, Nichols going for back to back Kansas win to

1152
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: start the year.

1153
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that should be about a twenty five point spread.

1154
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: And then after that they're going to play Bowling Greed,

1155
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: which is the next step up, you know for FCS.

1156
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: That should be about a twenty five point spread. So

1157
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: we'll learn a lot about how much organization he has

1158
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: with the team, because you know, he wants to get

1159
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: them on his system and his way of approaching games,

1160
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, for the week of practice and how to

1161
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: handle you know, film afterwards, and that's going to be

1162
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: a you know, it's going to be a real culture

1163
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: shock for a lot of the players there, and there's

1164
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: just too many questions in a lot of places. I

1165
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: will say that our projection is higher than the listed number.

1166
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's opened up at five and

1167
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: a half and I think we have it around six.

1168
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: So but you know, then again, I don't play first

1169
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: year coach, which is I generally try to stay away

1170
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: from taking the over and a coach in a new place.

1171
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have them circled as a potential under

1172
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: team early on. They're probably gonna run it a ton,

1173
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I do have some questions about their defense,

1174
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: but just the skill positions, A lot of questions on

1175
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: offense there. Texas Tech talk about changes. They're going to

1176
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: move to a three three five on defense. They have

1177
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: a new head coach and Matt Wells that you'd consider

1178
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: a defensive coach and you know, kind of likes to

1179
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: run it a little bit. It doesn't play as an

1180
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: offense couinner of lakes tempo. But this is a whole

1181
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: change from Cliff Kingsbury and what Texas Tech has been

1182
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: to bring in Matt Wells, who I really like Alan

1183
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: Bowman is obviously back over under six and a half,

1184
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have a new scheme on offense, new

1185
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: scheme on defense, a lot of changes with Texas Tech.

1186
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, six and a half looks about right to

1187
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: me a team. I don't want to guess that there's

1188
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns here, would you agree there?

1189
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few unknowns there. We actually have this mathematically

1190
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: they should go over their total of six, so I

1191
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: would guess if they're going to get to a bowl.

1192
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: But you know, again with the first year coach, it's

1193
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: a little, you know, a little questionable. But Bowman's back,

1194
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: and as long as he hasn't got a punctured lung,

1195
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, he does lose his top two receiving targets.

1196
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: He does get TJ.

1197
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: Vasherback, who had eighty targets last year, and he has

1198
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: a transfer from Nevada, which you know should know the

1199
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: system really well for Wells. So we definitely liked the

1200
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: offense there. But it's a huge change from Cliff Kingsbury

1201
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: and what was going on last year. I think defensively,

1202
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: we need to pay attention to what's going on that

1203
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: side of the ball because as much as I hyped

1204
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: them up last year. They just didn't produce any havoc whatsoever.

1205
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: So for me, they're an off season no play and

1206
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: during the season will learn a lot throughout the first

1207
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: couple of games, you know, against Montana State and then

1208
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: our boys UTEP and we too UTEP.

1209
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about UTEP. You know, before

1210
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: we signed off one last team to get to and look,

1211
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: I said before the theme of kind of the big

1212
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: twelve new coaches, Okay State, West Virginia, Texas Tech, Kansas,

1213
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: all new coaches. QB battles. I mean Kansas, I don't

1214
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: even know who their quarterback is going to be. West

1215
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Virginia quarterback battle, Oklahoma State, even Oklahoma likekeod Riley said

1216
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: that there is a competition right now, and I think

1217
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: the culmination of that, while there's no coaching change at TCU,

1218
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: if Gary Patterson back the quarterback battle that I think

1219
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: there's four guys in the running at the k State

1220
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: transfer a bunch of other guys. I don't know who

1221
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: is in the lead right now for the TCU quarterback.

1222
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: That position all year long is going to make or

1223
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: break TCU season. They lost a lot on defense, but

1224
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: you think that Patterson might be able to figure it out.

1225
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, the offense, it comes down to that quarterback position.

1226
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: TCU is a tough team to figure out because you

1227
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: want to trust Patterson, but there's a lot of question

1228
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: marks with this team over under. What I believe is

1229
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: it's seven and a half. Any do you have any

1230
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: news on the quarterback there and your thoughts on TCU.

1231
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: Patterson showed up to Big Til media days and was

1232
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: talking about, you know how there's a five man race.

1233
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: There's another one in there, but you know, everybody come

1234
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: on down to Fort Worth. Everybody gets a shot to

1235
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: put on the purple and play for the horn Frogs

1236
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: and take a snap under center. But it's gonna be

1237
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: really hard to figure out here who is going to be,

1238
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: you know. I mean when the odds come out about

1239
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: who's gonna be playing quarterback here, I would assume that

1240
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: justin Rodgers. He was the most highly ranked recruit that

1241
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: got into TCU, so I would assume he's the one

1242
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: that had the drop foot injury last year. Even though

1243
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Alex Delton in Kansas State has a ton of you know,

1244
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: more experience than anybody else. You know, Mike Collins ran

1245
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: it last year, but just wasn't explosive at all. He's

1246
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: just kind of a guy to you know, hold the ball,

1247
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: not make any mistakes. So it's tough. I have no

1248
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: clue who who's going to win the quarterback battle, and

1249
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: until you know that you have quarterback efficiency, you definitely

1250
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: don't want to lay money on the on the over.

1251
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Now.

1252
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: I talked about this on our last podcast that Vegas

1253
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: had TCU come out at seven and a half. Phil

1254
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: Steele does have influence on the market. He had them

1255
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: as their number three surprise team. But at the Action Network,

1256
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: I've got this calculated at five point seven. So this

1257
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: is an underplay for me all the way. You know,

1258
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: even though the defense and people were rant and raven

1259
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: about the defense, and I understand the Patterson is a

1260
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: defensive guy and he's had it in the past, and

1261
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: and they're projected to be a top twenty defense, but

1262
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, they still had some problems last year, big plays,

1263
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: and so until the quarterback efficiency gets figured out, who's

1264
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: going to play quarterback? To me, it's just a complete

1265
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: stay away until I see what we got on the field.

1266
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that you know you Yeah,

1267
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: I just had no idea of who is going to

1268
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: win that job. I mean, Delton could potentially win it.

1269
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, and that's there's just too much unknown

1270
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: with TCU. But if you make the projection five point seven,

1271
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: that's a clear like. Look, there comes a point in

1272
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: time when the deviation is big enough that you have

1273
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: to play it. Yeah, you know, if it's close. You know,

1274
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: we said West Virginia five point seven. If even if

1275
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Speaker 1: the over unders five, you can say, well, I still

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Speaker 1: kind of like the under. But when it's almost two

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Speaker 1: full wins, you play the under.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I like the under with this

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Speaker 2: team also is remember with the Big Twelve, they have

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Speaker 2: nine conference games, so TCU only has four home games,

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Speaker 2: and those home games, two of them are against Kansas

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Speaker 2: and West Virginia, so they don't get to take road

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Speaker 2: games in Big twelve play against the bottom featers and

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Speaker 2: the conference. They have to have them come to Fort Worth,

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Speaker 2: which means TCU has the toughest schedule in the in

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Speaker 2: terms of Big Twelve conference play, TCU's got it the toughest.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they don't get burn a nice road

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Speaker 2: So definitely the under on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yep. All right, Well that'll wrap it up for us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. It is good to be back

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Speaker 1: talking college football. We'll have plenty more preview podcasts of

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Speaker 1: leading up to the season, and then once we get

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Speaker 1: into season. Like I mentioned before, we'll have two weekly

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Speaker 1: episodes when it comes out on Monday, one that comes

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Speaker 1: to this, what'll be down to thirty eight days, only

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Speaker 1: five more Saturdays without college football. We are getting close.

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Speaker 1: We will talk more in depth on the SEC, the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, the Pac twelve, we'll get into group of five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have a lot more to cover Heisman,

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Speaker 1: more in futures, and just we're going to be learning

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Speaker 1: you listening. If you have questions, we want to bitch

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Speaker 1: about baseball betting during the summer, again, our voicemail is

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Speaker 1: always open. We'll be doing them maybe throughout the summer,

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Speaker 1: but definitely during the season. For those aren't outfamiliar people

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Speaker 1: beats or great wins. We recap them as part as

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Speaker 1: the recap episode of Monday Mornings. That number you can

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Speaker 1: find it on my Twitter at Stucky too, but it's

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Speaker 1: five seven five six five five zero six sixty four.

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Speaker 1: The louder you scream, the more likely you'll get on

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Speaker 1: our recap. So thanks for joining me, Colin, and we

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Speaker 1: look forward to doing many more of these previews before

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Speaker 1: the season starts. Cheers, peace Out,