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Speaker 3: How much.

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Speaker 4: The escalation as well? And that you are the key

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Speaker 3: That's and here I am and here you are, sails Sa.

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Speaker 4: Have you spoken to promister Messia?

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Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 5: When might you speak to us?

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Speaker 1: Well? Everybody, what will you say?

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Speaker 6: And I think Iran is foolish not to sign.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think this I think around basically is at

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Speaker 1: But I have to leave here. I have you know,

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Speaker 6: Who if I'm more effective on bud that?

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Speaker 6: We're very long time partners and allies and friends, and

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Speaker 6: We confected from any people tourists. The UK is very

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Speaker 6: And say it so that people listening quickly before your violence.

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Speaker 8: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 3: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 8: It's Monday, sixteen June, in the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five, President United States, showing a document right there.

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Speaker 8: They've signed the deal This is not an agreement to agree.

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Speaker 8: The one and only Liz Collin of Alpha News. Ma'am,

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Speaker 8: the whole world is actually focused on Minneapolis to day.

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Speaker 8: Walk us through that you found the assassin. Our guests

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Speaker 8: Walk us through what is going on, ma'am.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of developments here, Steve, certainly within the

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Speaker 7: you're right, Steve, it was really more of a hit list.

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Speaker 8: Steve, do we have any idea since there's not a manifesto,

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Speaker 8: Liz, where do people go for Alpha News and where

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Speaker 7: Alphaanews dot org is the website you'll find us Alpha

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Speaker 8: Hazani joins is now from Jerusalem, ur thank you, particularly

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, we are reaching the climax of

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Speaker 8: But his goal was to do it by negotiations, right,

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Speaker 4: Israel. I think his popularity is thirty percent.

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Speaker 8: He has a problem home his coalition together, and this

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Speaker 8: was this was a blatant political move to try to

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Speaker 8: to try to save himself politically, and if he has

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Speaker 8: to throw the region into a shooting war in these

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Speaker 8: the United States to come in, then he'll do it, sir.

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Speaker 3: Look Steve, part of what's different looking You've known me

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Speaker 3: for a while. Nat Con is my movement, Maga is

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Speaker 3: my movement. I'm a nash list conservative. I'm not one

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Speaker 3: of these people who is out there pounding the pavement

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Speaker 3: for America to be involved in this war or in

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Speaker 3: any war. But I do think that over the last

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Speaker 3: few months there's been a change in the sources of

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Speaker 3: information that people are using on the right in order

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Speaker 3: to discuss them. Middle least I don't fully understand it,

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Speaker 3: but I do know that at least one of our

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Speaker 3: mutual friends said publicly on social media that he reads

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Speaker 3: how Arts every day, and reading how Arts how Arts

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Speaker 3: is a it's literally reading the Israeli communists and the

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Speaker 3: distortions that you get from information, if that's the sources

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Speaker 3: of information or problematic. So let's take this example that

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Speaker 3: Tucker brought up the supposed thirty percent popularity rating of

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Speaker 3: Biba Nathanielle. So I heard that this evening, and I

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Speaker 3: went and I checked it, and the most recent polls

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Speaker 3: put Bib Natanie at fifty four percent with any thirty

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Speaker 3: points ahead of Naftali Bennett, who is the number two

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Speaker 3: contender for the prime ministership thirty points spread. So he

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Speaker 3: Bb And by the way, if you go back a

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Speaker 3: month or two and take a look at the same

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Speaker 3: poll before the war, you'll see that it was almost

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Speaker 3: exactly the same. There has been nobody anywhere near Bibi

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Speaker 3: Nataniell in terms of popularity as far as appropriateness to

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Speaker 3: be the prime Minister of the State of Israel for

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Speaker 3: years and so, look, we have to get back to

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Speaker 3: the point where all of us nat con nationalist, conservative people.

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Speaker 3: We have different views on different things, but we've got

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Speaker 3: to get back to the point where we're having a

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Speaker 3: reasonable conversation where the information that we're using is information

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Speaker 3: that's based on facts. That's unfortunately not what's happening the

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Speaker 3: last couple of months.

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Speaker 8: What is the facts, This was proposed, this was put

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Speaker 8: forward that it had to happen, and last Thursday and Friday, right,

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Speaker 8: there's something come up that it had to go. This

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Speaker 8: is why this emergency meeting all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 8: had to go.

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Speaker 4: This intelligence was shared.

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Speaker 8: And did he not say, I'm brettbhar that this would

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Speaker 8: come to fruition a potential bomb with a ballistic missile

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Speaker 8: twelve to thirteen months from now.

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Speaker 4: There's just this huge disconnect.

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Speaker 8: There's a huge disconnect between what's being said one time

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Speaker 8: and then kind of a reverse course.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear the Brettbahar interview, and I also don't

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Speaker 3: think that it's my job. I look, I'm not an

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Speaker 3: employee of the Israeli government, and I don't feel the

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Speaker 3: need to defend absolutely everything that Prime Minister and Atenio says.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what happened in the particular meeting that

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Speaker 3: we're talking about, and I don't know how the decision

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Speaker 3: was made. But I do know something that I think,

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Speaker 3: to my mind, is much more important, which is that

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Speaker 3: seventy five percent of Israeli support this war. And the

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Speaker 3: reason that's of last night, the reason that seventy five

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Speaker 3: percent of Israeli support this war is because for twenty

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Speaker 3: years we've been living with the threat of the development

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Speaker 3: of nuclear weapons by the Iranian regime. For the Israeli public,

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Speaker 3: the Israeli public doesn't know and frankly doesn't care, whether

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Speaker 3: the breakout was supposed to be in four or five days,

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Speaker 3: or in four or five weeks, or in four or

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Speaker 3: five months. What nobody argues about at all is that

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Speaker 3: the Iranians want a nuclear weapon, that they were working

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Speaker 3: on building it as hard as they could for all

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Speaker 3: of these years, and for Israelis, that's an existential threat. Now,

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Speaker 3: it may be that there are people in the United

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Speaker 3: States who, at this point have something of a revisionist view.

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Speaker 3: They've been reading hearts and they don't remember that just

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Speaker 3: a few months ago it was a matter of consensus

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Speaker 3: between nationalist conservatives, you know, America, Europe, India, Israel. Everybody

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Speaker 3: knew that Iran was seeking to become the hedgemon, the

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Speaker 3: dominant player in the Middle East, that it was supplying

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Speaker 3: proxy terrorist organizations, and that it was seeking a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't any kind of secret about this. This has

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Speaker 3: been discussed for fifteen years openly. So if Natanielle made

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Speaker 3: a decision that it was now or never because Trump

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Speaker 3: had said this, this is what the Israeli public is hearing.

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Speaker 3: In any case, Trump said that the Iranians had sixty

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Speaker 3: days to come to a deal. After sixty one, something

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Speaker 3: terrible was going to happen. If you get to day

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Speaker 3: sixty one. It's entirely possible that nataniel says and his

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Speaker 3: cabinet they say, look, it's now or never. We don't

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Speaker 3: have another opportunity.

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Speaker 8: So as far as second, where just going to hold

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Speaker 8: you do a commercial break You're a Maazani joins us

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Speaker 8: from jerusym show commercial break back in.

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Speaker 1: Here's your host, Stephen k bat.

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Speaker 8: So you tell me, is it Haretz harettes? Why is

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Speaker 8: that a suboptimal news source?

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Speaker 3: Aretz Aretz is the the represents the left most five

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Speaker 3: percent of the Jewish population in the State of Israel.

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Speaker 3: It's a It's a a newspaper with a very small

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Speaker 3: circulation and has a great deal of prestige because it's

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Speaker 3: it's read by our left, lefty elite classes. But look

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Speaker 3: into it. Not only is historically Aretz a newspaper that

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Speaker 3: opposed suppose, opposed the establishment of the state State of Israel.

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Speaker 3: The Schokun family that founded it, they were anti Zionists.

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Speaker 3: They were against the establishment of the State of Israel.

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Speaker 3: It is a a newspaper that has over the years

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Speaker 3: fought tooth and nail for what we in Israel called

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Speaker 3: post Zionism, for the elimination of the Jewish character of

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Speaker 3: the state, for the elimination of the writer of return

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Speaker 3: to Jews to the State of Israel, and on political issues,

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Speaker 3: like I say something, something on the order of up

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Speaker 3: to half of their writers and editors are members of

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Speaker 3: the Israel Communist Party. You're reading, you're reading party line

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Speaker 3: when you're reading arts. It makes no sense that any

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Speaker 3: conservative of any kind, nationalist traditionalist Christian Jewish, anybody with

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Speaker 3: any kind of a feeling for the Jewish and Christian

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Speaker 3: inheritance of the West would soak their brain daily in

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Speaker 3: a propaganda sheet of that kind. I mean, imagine somebody,

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Speaker 3: somebody from another country coming to the United States and saying, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I read I read the New York Times. That's not

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Speaker 3: a fair analogy, because the New York Times is far

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Speaker 3: to the right of Arts. But if somebody said to you,

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Speaker 3: I know America because I read the New York Times

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Speaker 3: every day, you'd say, come on, give me a break,

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with you? Arts is far far to the

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Speaker 3: left and always has been of the New York Times.

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Speaker 3: Arts teaches the New York Times how to be leftist.

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Speaker 8: I know, you get a bounce in the middle of

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Speaker 8: the night, and we've got sam fatis a bunch of

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Speaker 8: people I do the maga right. I think a lot

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Speaker 8: of people would say, hey, we have no problem at all.

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Speaker 4: Israel's a nation.

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Speaker 8: It's got as sovereignty whatever it's got to do, obviously,

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Speaker 8: and they have this war right now against some Muslim

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Speaker 8: brotherhood in Gaza. If they feel that they're threatened, immediately

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Speaker 8: with some sort of breakout and their intelligence tells them

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Speaker 8: that that they have no problem with Israel doing what

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Speaker 8: a sovereign nation can do do. The issue is is

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Speaker 8: that that is predicated upon at least air defense by

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Speaker 8: the United States and now tremendous pressure on President Trump

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Speaker 8: to actually go onto air offensive sorties combat sorties. The

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Speaker 8: Limits Battle Group is en route from the South China Sea.

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Speaker 8: We're for deploying a bunch of tank er refueling assets,

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Speaker 8: air refueling assets. What is your response to people say, hey, look,

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Speaker 8: whatever you guys do, go do it? Just like in

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Speaker 8: God's we said, hey, if you've got to go through Hell,

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Speaker 8: go through as quickly as possible. What's your answer to people,

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Speaker 8: but we want absolutely no involvement with it?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 3: First, my first first answers, like I said before, is gratitude,

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Speaker 3: thank God that we have President Trump instead of a

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Speaker 3: President Biden or Obama, who is allowing Israel to take

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Speaker 3: care of very basic security security needs that for decades

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Speaker 3: have been put off to American involvement. I'm aware as

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Speaker 3: you are that you know, lots of people are saying

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Speaker 3: lots of different things. I would like to repeat the

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Speaker 3: official position of the Israeli government I'll quote to people

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Speaker 3: who are old friends, Giton Tsar, the Foreign Minister, and

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Speaker 3: Safia a Egbi, the National Security Advisor, both people who

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Speaker 3: have known for many years and they're good men. And

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Speaker 3: in the last couple of days they've said clearly and repeatedly,

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Speaker 3: this operation was designed to be blue and white. That's

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Speaker 3: how an egg be putting. It's designed to be an

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Speaker 3: operation that Israel can pull off by itself. Now, we're

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Speaker 3: all anybody who's following this a little bit understands that

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Speaker 3: there are some things that would be easier for the

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Speaker 3: Americans to do than for the Israelis. Okay, but that

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that the Americans have to do it. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that they have any kind of obligation. Israel

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Speaker 3: believes and I I before I got on this evening,

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Speaker 3: I called a military officer friend of mine just to

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Speaker 3: make sure that I'm updated on what people are thinking.

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Speaker 3: What people are thinking is you take that underground nuclear

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Speaker 3: facility in Fardao, which is you know, the subject that

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Speaker 3: everybody's been talking about, that it's a deep underground and

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Speaker 3: there's no way that Israel can do it. And the

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Speaker 3: Israelis know that the Americans are going to have to

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Speaker 3: do it. Look, obviously the B two can can take

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Speaker 3: it out better than Israel can, but that's that's entirely

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Speaker 3: not the point. What's going to happen If Americans say no,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to do it, Israel's going to go

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Speaker 3: after it. And I went through a number of scenarios

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Speaker 3: with him. I don't think it makes sense to detail

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Speaker 3: them here, but let's just say there are aerial scenarios

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Speaker 3: where Israel has techniques that it believes it can use

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Speaker 3: to get through to to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: that Mounta and eliminate that nuclear base. There are also

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Speaker 3: of scenarios that involve ground forces, and I won't go

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Speaker 3: into this further. Israel has the ability to take out

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Speaker 3: every single facility that we need to take out. The

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Speaker 3: only question is how risky, how hard is it going

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Speaker 3: to be? And if and as I told you in

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Speaker 3: the break, nobody has ever heard me calling for American

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Speaker 3: troops to be sent not into Iraq and not into Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: not into Serbia.

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Speaker 11: Never.

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Speaker 3: I've never called for.

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Speaker 4: Any of these.

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Speaker 3: I'm a tremendous skeptic just like you are. But Israel,

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Speaker 3: as you say, Israel has things that it's got to do,

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Speaker 3: and America needs to make its own decisions. It's a

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Speaker 3: sovereign country. I completely understand my MAGA friends who don't

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Speaker 3: want to get involved in another Middle Eastern war, one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent understand it. It's going to make it a

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Speaker 3: little bit harder for Israel, but the Israelis are ready

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Speaker 3: to do it. It's our war. We know what we

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Speaker 3: need to do. Everybody agrees on what we need to do,

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Speaker 3: and I think that we also have We also have

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Speaker 3: what we need to be able to do it, even

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Speaker 3: if it will be a little bit harder to do

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Speaker 3: it our way.

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Speaker 8: You're where do people get your writings, where they keep

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Speaker 8: up with you on social media?

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Speaker 3: You can follow me on Twitter at why fazzoni y

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Speaker 3: h A z O n why. Please take a look

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Speaker 3: at the new second edition of The Virtue of Nationalism,

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Speaker 3: which I think will have a lot to say. We'll

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Speaker 3: speak to a lot of your viewers.

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Speaker 8: By the way, it's a Mussery, one of the foundational

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Speaker 8: text in the nationalist movement. Uram, thank you so much

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Speaker 8: for staying up in the middle of the night in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed.

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Speaker 4: Sam Fattis.

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Speaker 8: We always call and said, Sam, you've got a piece

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Speaker 8: on substack that got my attention, and help me out here,

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Speaker 8: brother Tulsa Gabbert is because this gets down as a

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Speaker 8: very confusing situationcy even with Rum, we don't agree on

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Speaker 8: certain basic facts. But that's okay about the intel here,

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Speaker 8: Telsea Gabert testified, I think on twenty five March that

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Speaker 8: there was no program that hadn't reinitiated a program, and

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Speaker 8: that was kind of the official intelligence party line of

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Speaker 8: the Trump administration. You're saying there's been a breakdown of

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Speaker 8: intelligence in your substack piece, which is quite brilliant. You're

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Speaker 8: saying your money right now is on Israelis. Can you

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Speaker 8: walk us through what the breakdown you think is and

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Speaker 8: why do you think their intelligence may be better than ours?

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, I mean, let's start with this upfront. You know,

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Speaker 15: I'm not trashing Telsea Gabbert, who I don't know. She's

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Speaker 15: the DCI, she's the head of the intelligence community. But

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Speaker 15: what she doing she's presenting to Congress and official report

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Speaker 15: that is a joint product of all the intelligence agencies.

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Speaker 5: So she's reading a document that was written for her.

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Speaker 15: But this is Ciadia NSA. Everybody in the world comes

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Speaker 15: together and she delivers this presentation the end of March.

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Speaker 15: It's a required product, and it says there is no

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Speaker 15: Iranian nuclear weapons program, and in effect short version, there

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Speaker 15: hasn't been one since two thousand and three. So that's

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Speaker 15: that's what that's two and a half months ago, and

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Speaker 15: now we have the Israeli's bomb and everything in Iran

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Speaker 15: in the Israeli line is not just as is there

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Speaker 15: a nuclear weapons program, but there has been a nuclear

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Speaker 15: weapons program, and it's really close to fruition. Now I

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Speaker 15: take your point that they're their definition of how close

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Speaker 15: it is to fruition seems to have danced around recently.

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Speaker 15: But even taking that into account, these it'd be pretty

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Speaker 15: hard to imagine two conclusions that are more diametrically opposed.

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Speaker 15: I mean, we're saying, as an intel.

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Speaker 8: Community, this is not a this is not a this

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Speaker 8: is not it's either one of them. I mean, ours

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Speaker 8: is pretty adamant and it hasn't been updated by anybody publicly.

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Speaker 8: The other is that and this is where it came

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Speaker 8: out of nowhere, Like on Thursday. I may have been

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Speaker 8: rumored and people have been talking, I know there's been

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Speaker 8: means in the White House and others, we all sudden

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Speaker 8: Thursday night, we're going for an early Friday morning bombing

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Speaker 8: because something's happening this weekend.

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Speaker 4: So how do we have that? I mean, how can.

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Speaker 8: Those both be absorbed by decision makers at the National

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Speaker 8: Security Council and people that are advising the president on

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Speaker 8: matters of war and peace.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean that's the question, right.

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Speaker 15: I mean, we were just told they don't have a program,

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Speaker 15: not just they're further away from it than the Israelis

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Speaker 15: clam they don't have a program, and in effect, our

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Speaker 15: assessment was they haven't had a program since two thousand

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Speaker 15: and three. Now the Israelis are saying we got to

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Speaker 15: bomb the hell out of them right now because they're

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Speaker 15: about to pop one off and have an active arsenal. Again,

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Speaker 15: pretty hard to imagine two more diametrically opposed assessments. Now,

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Speaker 15: based on the totality of what I know in my experience,

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Speaker 15: I unfortunately think the Israelis are closer to the truth,

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Speaker 15: but maybe more to the point, it seems pretty clear

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Speaker 15: that even though our intelligence community said there wasn't a

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Speaker 15: nuclear weapons program, that all of a sudden our entire

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Speaker 15: national security apparatus is acting like there is one right.

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Speaker 15: We didn't respond to this by saying, you guys are

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Speaker 15: a bunch of crazy people. What the heck are you bombing?

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Speaker 15: There is no program. And as you noted, you know

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Speaker 15: there's been all sorts of reports that we're moving aerial

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Speaker 15: refueling assets by the dozens in toward the Middle East,

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Speaker 15: as if we're prepping ourselves to potentially jump into this thing,

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Speaker 15: which I am not a fan of. But all of

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Speaker 15: that suggests that we think the Israelis are a heck

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Speaker 15: of a lot closer to the truth than we are,

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Speaker 15: And frankly, it scares the hell out me, because intelligence

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Speaker 15: is power, right, if we're relying upon the Israelis to

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Speaker 15: be the ones who tell us what's going on and

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Speaker 15: we don't have a clue, and we're effectively held hostage

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Speaker 15: to them. And look, I've worked with the Israelis, their allies.

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Speaker 15: I support the State of Israel, but I support the

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Speaker 15: United States more. And we shouldn't be in a position

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Speaker 15: of basically being blind and having to trust that the

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Speaker 15: Israelis are telling us the truth all the time and

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Speaker 15: that we can rely upon. And we should also keep

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Speaker 15: in mind, by the way, they are human too. They're

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Speaker 15: not ten feet tall. They somehow managed to miss a

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Speaker 15: hamas offensive. It was put together on the other side

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Speaker 15: of a wall, right next to their country.

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Speaker 5: So it would be a really good idea if we had.

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Speaker 15: Our own intelligence and we didn't have to just have

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Speaker 15: them tell us what's going on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, real quickly, we get about a minute. I know

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Speaker 8: your other thing you do in your spare moment. You're

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Speaker 8: one of the leaders of the MAGA America first Patriot

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Speaker 8: Movie movement in to come with a Pennsylvania. When bb

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Speaker 8: Netanyahu tells Jonathan Carl ABC News, this is not about

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Speaker 8: America first, is about America dead. Give me thirty seconds.

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Speaker 8: How's that sit with you, Sam Fattus.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't sit. It doesn't sit well.

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Speaker 15: Man. We don't need a foreign leader telling us when

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Speaker 15: we get to stand up for ourselves. And I live

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Speaker 15: in a part of the country where that has given

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Speaker 15: a lot of blood over the last twenty years to

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Speaker 15: foreign wars.

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Speaker 5: So that we're prepared to fight.

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Speaker 15: But we would really like to know why we're fighting

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Speaker 15: and what are we fighting for?

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Speaker 8: Sam Fattus, Where do people go get your amazing analysis sir.

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Speaker 15: And magazine at Substack so Andmagazine dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 8: Sam Fattis, you're a patriot and a hero, Sir, thank

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Speaker 8: you for joining us today. Short commercial break Natalie Winters on.

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Speaker 4: We'll go through all of it.

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Speaker 8: Natalie, the rumble Chat nominated you to come forward, and

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Speaker 8: you have one or two things you have to make

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Speaker 8: as observations to my to my friend and colleague Uram

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Speaker 8: in Jerusalem, your thoughts, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Sure, well, first and foremost you and Tucker this morning.

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Speaker 2: That was absolutely wonderful programming.

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Speaker 5: I've watched it.

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Speaker 2: So many times, but I would like to, I think, respectfully,

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Speaker 2: push back on what Uramzoni was trying to pitch to

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Speaker 2: our audience. I think, frankly, you lose the argument when

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Speaker 2: your first line of attack is sort of in line

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Speaker 2: with the left wings idea that the sourcing of your information,

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Speaker 2: whether it's misinformation or disinformation, or it's just some you know,

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Speaker 2: far left news outlet that that's why American they're so

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Speaker 2: misguided on this sort of Iranian I think, which has

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Speaker 2: become a flash point for what is a.

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Speaker 9: Broader discussion about where our.

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Speaker 2: Priorities, whether it's financial or otherwise, or other regions when

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Speaker 2: it comes down to Israel in the Middle East. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: I think what is going on with Israel, it's not

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Speaker 2: rooted and misinformation or some far left is really narrative

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Speaker 2: being spun. What you're talking about right now is President

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Speaker 2: Trump having the opportunity and the ability to, I think,

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Speaker 2: really push through the kinetic codification of what he has

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Speaker 2: done in terms of burden sharing and the idea of

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Speaker 2: getting European countries, whether it's to pay their fair share

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Speaker 2: via NATO, to actually pitch in to defense with Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: to actually have these countries follow through on what very well,

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Speaker 2: maybe flimsy or hyperbolic rhetoric right like you've been alluding

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Speaker 2: to Tulsei Gabbert talking about sort of the weird, you know,

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Speaker 2: struck up out of nowhere idea that now suddenly we've

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Speaker 2: hit the you know, point of no return when it

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Speaker 2: comes to Rania and nuclear capabilities. But what is I

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Speaker 2: think so different is that this is the Trump administration's

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Speaker 2: ability to, I think, actually put America first and sort

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Speaker 2: of triumph and prevail over these forces and realizing that

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Speaker 2: there are different geographic definitions of what nationalism is. You're

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Speaker 2: in the Zoni who's done wonderful work through Natcon, But

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Speaker 2: he is Israeli, and I don't say that pejoratively. It's

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, and what he thinks America's response

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Speaker 2: should be through the paradigm of what suits Israel is

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Speaker 2: going to be different from what you and I think

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Speaker 2: because we're American, and that's the core idea of what

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Speaker 2: it means to be a member of the MAGA movement, right,

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Speaker 2: that your citizenship means something. It's why we're so opposed

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Speaker 2: to H one B visas. And to link this to

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Speaker 2: the story that I know you want to get into

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Speaker 2: talking about who's been funding a lot of these left

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Speaker 2: wing protesters and rioters in LA particularly one group, the

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Speaker 2: Immigrant Legal Resource Center. We can toss the picture up

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Speaker 2: on screen, right, this is a group that now how

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Speaker 2: hang out.

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Speaker 8: But hang on, hang on second, hang one second. I

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Speaker 8: think that was tremendous and the rumble chat. I appreciate

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Speaker 8: you being the stepping forward what we should be focused

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Speaker 8: on is I said with Tucker today, and I said

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Speaker 8: when I did Tugos podcast, which should be up in

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Speaker 8: a while, is that of all these things we're working on,

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Speaker 8: the main battlefront here is our sovereignty, citizenship, sealing the border,

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Speaker 8: and mass deportations of these illegal alien evaders. And you're

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Speaker 8: seeing this fight all across the next three people. And

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Speaker 8: I've been saying we need to pivot away from this

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Speaker 8: because part of this whole thing with Iran or Persia

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Speaker 8: is to distract us, is to get us off this.

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Speaker 8: And so I've got you, I've got John lont has

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Speaker 8: an amazing story, and Steve Cortez has some incredible polling that

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Speaker 8: he is his organization have done. So as a peace

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Speaker 8: I want to go through this. I want to start.

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Speaker 8: We got a couple of minutes here. I'm gonna hold

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Speaker 8: you through the break the financial that we have a

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Speaker 8: war we have to win. Stephen Miller says this in

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Speaker 8: the streets of Los Angeles and President Trump last night,

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Speaker 8: as you said, as you know Natalie double and triple down,

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Speaker 8: say we're going to increase the ice raids in these

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Speaker 8: big sanctuary city centers. We're not going to stop, and

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Speaker 8: we're going to be quite public about it. There is

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Speaker 8: a counter narrative of who's actually financing this and funding this?

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Speaker 8: Take it away because I think people are going to

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Speaker 8: be shocked about who's actually because we're in a civil

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Speaker 8: war here, are near a civil war level of intensity

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Speaker 8: when we go into these major cities, who's actually a

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Speaker 8: guinness ma'am?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think your use of the word of war,

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Speaker 2: that's sort of where I was going. We are letting

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Speaker 2: the same people who are funding these left wing NGOs,

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Speaker 2: the groups that orchestrated the invasion of the southern border,

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Speaker 2: now determine again, people who don't believe in sovereignty, don't

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Speaker 2: believe in borders, tell us that we should be at

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Speaker 2: war and that Iran is our new enemy, and that

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Speaker 2: we need to just blindly support escalation into kinetic conflict

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Speaker 2: right in that region. And I think in the same

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Speaker 2: way that all of these whether it's the left wing

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Speaker 2: sort of NGO groups that have been funding, whether it's

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Speaker 2: groups like the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, all the far

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Speaker 2: left groups, the Tides Foundation, the Tide Center, the Open

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Speaker 2: Society foundations, those people don't care about sovereignty, and now

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden. They're the same people who are

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Speaker 2: funding the experts that are saying that the United States

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Speaker 2: somehow to defend Israeli sovereignty needs to get dragged into

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Speaker 2: another conflict in the Middle East. I mean, I'm old

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Speaker 2: enough to remember when what was it the Biden regime

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Speaker 2: over at the Pentagon was busy ramming through Iranian spies

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Speaker 2: and then once they were outed, they were busy working

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Speaker 2: overtime to ensure that they could keep their clearances.

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Speaker 5: So all of these.

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Speaker 2: People who are making up the rules of what kinetic

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Speaker 2: conflict looks like. It's not altruism. It's not rooted in

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Speaker 2: defending the nation state. It's about profit, it's about power.

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Speaker 2: Case and point what Iran has done, read the nuclear program.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to introduce them to the Chinese Communist Party,

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Speaker 2: which they're all in business with. They have no problem

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Speaker 2: taking money from them, right, and it's totally hypocritical. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, the PRC is far more advanced in

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Speaker 2: that realm. They effectively own Iranian airspace. We want to

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Speaker 2: talk about what happened if we actually got involved in

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Speaker 2: the shooting war there and shot down a Chinese plane.

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Speaker 5: These people don't care.

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Speaker 9: They should be focusing on the rare earth.

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Speaker 2: They should be focusing on the actual economic warfare, infiltration,

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Speaker 2: not invasion.

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Speaker 5: But these people don't care.

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Speaker 2: The same people who orchestrated the invasion of the Southern

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Speaker 2: border now want your children and grandchildren to die and

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Speaker 2: battlefields abroad and battlefields galore in the name of It's

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Speaker 2: not even just profited. That's reductive, but it's disgusting and

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Speaker 2: it's tired, and I wish these people would stop shilling

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Speaker 2: and pushing these narratives that are just insulting to my

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Speaker 2: intelligence into our audience's intelligence.

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Speaker 4: Natalie stick around.

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Speaker 8: We got Natalie Winners John Lott about what deportations are

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Speaker 8: doing to murder Raser aughout the country. You're going to

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Speaker 8: be quite surprised, Steve Cortez with amazing polling. Also, we're

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Speaker 8: going to talk to one of the world's top experts

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Speaker 8: on my favorite topic, artificial intelligence, Joe Allen will jop

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Speaker 8: By two short commercial break back in the Warm in

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Speaker 8: a Moment