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Speaker 1: this is a good thing if you're a great athlete.

431
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Speaker 1: Every every one of them has has a narrogance about him.

432
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Speaker 1: And that's why he's where he's at right now, is

433
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 1: because uh, no shots a bad shot. Uh, I can

434
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Speaker 1: get by anybody. And and you guys know this. To

435
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 1: to be at the level Zack's at, you have to

436
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: have that. And that's what kind of separates him from

437
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: a lot of different players is he believes he can

438
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 1: do everything. And that's a good thing. And at the

439
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: same time, as a coach, you've got to kind of

440
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 1: wrangle some of that in, but at the same time,

441
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to take it away because that's who

442
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: makes him who he is. I love that, coach. I'm

443
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: curious when we watch and studium and evaluate him. You know,

444
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 1: we used the word twitch a lot. He's just really

445
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: dynamic and explosive with his movement. I'm curious what type

446
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 1: of bounce did he have on the basketball court, What

447
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 1: kind of jumper was he? What type of finisher was he?

448
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: Same thing? He Zack's a phenomenal athlete. He everything he does,

449
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 1: he's very explosive. Uh, you know, I think you've covered everything.

450
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 1: The same beast which he has in football, he had

451
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: that on the basketball court. Coach, we were talking a

452
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Speaker 1: little bit before we came on, and Uh, do you

453
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: mention the fact that you're a big Packer fans, you

454
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 1: travel back to Wisconsin try and get a game at

455
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 1: Lambo each and every year. I thought that was fascinating

456
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: because we we've kind of used the comparison. Look, we're

457
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 1: not saying he's Aaron Rodgers, but there are some similarities

458
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: to him as an athlete. I'm curious to take your

459
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: coach hat on, just put your fan hat on a

460
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Speaker 1: little bit. You watch a lot of Aaron Rodgers over

461
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: the years, you follow Zack, you see any of those

462
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: similarities that we see. I do. I love Aaron Rodgers,

463
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: but I think Zach is a far superior athlete Taron Rodgers,

464
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: and and I think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback

465
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Speaker 1: in the NFL in my opinion, but I think Zack,

466
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: like I say that the accuracy in an NFL game

467
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: is still yet to be proven, but I think he

468
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: has all those intangibles that a lot of people that

469
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't care what sport it is, there's

470
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: intangibles there that some people have and some players don't,

471
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Speaker 1: and Zach has those intangibles. Those are things that can't

472
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Speaker 1: be coached. Those are things that that you have to

473
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Speaker 1: do on the fly to make something out of nothing.

474
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Speaker 1: And so I do think Zack has a lot of

475
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Speaker 1: tools in the bag that when he gets there, people

476
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: are gonna be very surpris heist. Yeah, last question, coach,

477
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: He's been very kind with your time today. We appreciate it.

478
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm just curious personality wise with act, like, do we

479
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: have a sense of humor here? Like he always looks

480
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: like when we've seen him, he's smiling and having a

481
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Speaker 1: good time. How would you describe his personality? That's how

482
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Speaker 1: he is. Zack's happy, Zach. Let's say Zack has his goals,

483
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: he knows what they are. Nobody's gonna deviate him, uh

484
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Speaker 1: from that. But at the same time, he's uh nice

485
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Speaker 1: and kind to people. Uh, you know, with all athletes.

486
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Speaker 1: Some people think that's uh that he has a little

487
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Speaker 1: ledge on his shoulder and they don't like that. But

488
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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, that's why Zach is where he's

489
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Speaker 1: at and those that's one of the intangibles I'm talking about,

490
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Speaker 1: you know, Uh, he's driven, motivated coach. Talking to somebody

491
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Speaker 1: who played the quarterback position who could only dunk a volleyball? Uh,

492
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Speaker 1: could Zach put it? Could he put it down on

493
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Speaker 1: the court? Hare could he dunk? He could dunk? Yes,

494
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Speaker 1: good athletes in my opinion, and I've been a head

495
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: coach for thirty three years in a game of basketball.

496
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Speaker 1: He is one of the top athletes I have ever coached.

497
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Speaker 1: And we've had a lot of success where we've been

498
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Speaker 1: and Uh, he is, he's just he's a great athlete. Well,

499
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Speaker 1: I know one thing, Coach LT loves the Packers and

500
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: I think he loves Zack Wilson. We can we can

501
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: confirm both those things. After that interview, we absolutely can't

502
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Speaker 1: confirm it. I mean, you talk about Zach Wilson and

503
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: he raped about his athleticism and what he saw from

504
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: obviously as a as a young athlete and playing basketball,

505
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Speaker 1: and then his love with the backers being able to

506
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: prepare UH, Zach Wilson favorably to Aaron Rodgers. It's something

507
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Speaker 1: that's a little stunning based on what we've seen from

508
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers uh a multiple time m v P. But

509
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Speaker 1: I think it speaks to what Zach Wilson brings to

510
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Speaker 1: the table. Just as a pure talent. You're talking about

511
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Speaker 1: a five star talent in terms of his potential and

512
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Speaker 1: capabilities as an athlete, and then you couple that with

513
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Speaker 1: his arm talent and the way he plays a position.

514
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Speaker 1: A lot to be excited about. I want to dig

515
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Speaker 1: in real quick on the on the erin Rogers comparison. Look,

516
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: this is his high school coach, obviously gonna be biased,

517
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna love him. Um. I think stylistically, and

518
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Speaker 1: I've said it with some of the video, just kind

519
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: of that loose, explosive motion that he has making throws

520
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: with his feet off the ground. Some of those things

521
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: remind you of Aaron coming out similar size. Um. But

522
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Speaker 1: by no means are we saying this is Aaron Rodgers, right,

523
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the best quarterback in the national Football

524
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Speaker 1: League in terms of coming off of an m v

525
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Speaker 1: P season. Um, so we're not saying that, but I

526
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Speaker 1: do think stylistically they do share some things. Yes, I listically,

527
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Speaker 1: they certainly share some things. And I think if you

528
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Speaker 1: go back and and we're honestly looking at Aaron Rodgers,

529
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wasn't necessarily as dynamic or as electric as

530
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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was at the same stages of their careers.

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Speaker 1: And so when you dig into the background and you

532
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Speaker 1: talk about the basketball and how basketball impacted him, how

533
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Speaker 1: he really was a baller um on the hardwood before

534
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: he really committed to being a football player, I think

535
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Speaker 1: you can see those skills and you can see those

536
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Speaker 1: skills pop on the football field. You can see that

537
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: he played all the sports and how it had to

538
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: impact and influence on his game. Well, let's let's take

539
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: the next step here. I'd love to get the reaction

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Speaker 1: from Jeff Grimes, who was uh Wilson's offensive coordinator a

541
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: b y U. He's currently the Baylor offensive coordinator. But Buck,

542
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: you had a chance to sit down and visit with him,

543
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Speaker 1: and more than anything else, I wanted to find out

544
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Speaker 1: kind of first impressions when Zack Wilson got to b

545
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Speaker 1: y U and you're able to land that answer. Here's

546
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Speaker 1: your conversation with Jeff Grimes, your former quarterback, Zach Wilson

547
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed a meteor rise of the charts. But can you

548
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your first impression is Zach

549
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Speaker 1: Wilson when you met him? Yeah, kind of a kind

550
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: of a confident little kid. Just he so he was

551
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Speaker 1: in high school when I first met him, and really

552
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: was just he came to b y UT the same

553
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Speaker 1: time I did, and what a blessing for me that

554
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: turned out to be. Uh. But when I when I

555
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: first started talking with Kalani about coming to b y

556
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: U as the OC, my first question was telling me

557
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks, and so we went down the roster

558
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: and then he said, but there's also this kid um

559
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: who's who's committed to Boise State. But I think we've

560
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: got a chance to get him to come here. And

561
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: he said, I've been talking to him, and you know,

562
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Speaker 1: if you take the job, I'd like for you to

563
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: get involved in that. And so that night I watched

564
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Speaker 1: his film and I said, yeah, this this guy can

565
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Speaker 1: play and was impressed with what I saw in the

566
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Speaker 1: film more than anything, just his um, his playmaking ability

567
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Speaker 1: and his moxie. I mean, you saw the arm and

568
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: you saw the overall athleticism, but I saw a guy

569
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Speaker 1: that I felt like was a winner. And so he

570
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: and I started talking. And then the day I actually

571
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Speaker 1: flew to U talk to be announced at as as

572
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Speaker 1: the O, c Zach and his parents were at the

573
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Speaker 1: y U on an official visit, and uh, you know,

574
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Speaker 1: he still looks the same. He looks like he's about

575
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Speaker 1: fifteen years old, but his body was a little bit

576
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: thinner than wasn't as developed as he is right now.

577
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: But that that same sort of confidence and and and

578
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: inner inner strength that that I think makes him who

579
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: he is was evident even even when he was in

580
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: high school. I always I think it's interesting when you

581
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: get that first impression story. Uh you hear about the

582
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: recruitment there of Zack Wilson. But also uh kind of

583
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: going back to that theme, right, the playmaking, the competitiveness

584
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: of Zack Wilson is what what b y U was

585
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: fired up about when they brought him in. Yeah, I

586
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: mean I think you certainly want to be fired up

587
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: about what he brings to the table. And I think

588
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: Grimes certainly had an opportunity to jump in the process

589
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: in recruiting, identifying see him and and kind of had

590
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: the imagination of, Ay, this is what this guy could

591
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: do in our offense. And then when you think about

592
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: building an offense around a unique talent like Zack Wilson,

593
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean I can understand why he was so ecstatic

594
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: to have him come on board. Yeah, well it definitely

595
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: worked out for all parties involved here. Um, Jeff Grimes,

596
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, talk about the recruiting, recruiting process and that

597
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: first impression there. Uh, that gets us into this transition

598
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: here as we lean more towards the b y U years,

599
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: the college years and the evaluation of Zach and his

600
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: skill set. Um, here's Jeff again, uh talking about that

601
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: development and then what took place there at b y U,

602
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, and thinking about that confidence. The one thing

603
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: that stands out to me when I watched him and say,

604
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: if he plays with such an unbelievable confidence in swagger,

605
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Wilson springing left, throws ends on and it's called touchdown.

606
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: That was a great throw. Um. Have you ever seen

607
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: it where he either loses that or his debt who

608
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: he is He's just a really confident competitor. That's who

609
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: he is. I've never seen him lose that. I've seen

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00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: him get frustrated like all great competitors, but I've never

611
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: seen him without his confidence. And you know, he had

612
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: a real, uh, a real challenging sophomore year. I'm sure

613
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: you're aware of that, and it's most people probably are

614
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, and you talked about his

615
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: meteoric rise and a lot of people say he kind

616
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere. Well, he did, and he didn't.

617
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: He had a tremendous freshman year, became the starter force

618
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: midway through his freshman season, finished the season off with

619
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: a tremendous Bowl game when eighteen for eighteen was the

620
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: m v P of the game. And then he had

621
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery and everything changed for him because when he

622
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: came back for fall camp that year, his arm wasn't

623
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Speaker 1: what it was before, and he didn't have the same

624
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: strength and his shoulder and you know, he would probably

625
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: tell you he was I would guess seventy of his

626
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: full strength in terms of throwing the ball. But it

627
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: didn't keep him from practice, it didn't keep him from

628
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: working to be a leader, and and you know, we

629
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: made him like everybody or in his start in his

630
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: starting job, and he did, but he didn't have the

631
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: same zip on the ball. And then you know he

632
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: was He played UM four or five games there and

633
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: had a couple of big wins, you know, beat USC,

634
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: beat Tennessee early in the season. UM. Then he messes

635
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: up his hand, you know, tears some ligaments in his thumb,

636
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: breaks his thumb and has the missed most of the

637
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: rest of that season. Comes back towards the end, doesn't

638
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: quite have the same grip strength, but he plays through it.

639
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: And through all of that, I saw a guy who

640
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: was not physically certainly at his best, but still go

641
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: out there and play and believe that he could get

642
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: the job done and believe that he was the best

643
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: guy for the job. And so no, I've never seen

644
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: him loose his confidence. Uh, he's never met a throw

645
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: he didn't like UM and and he's never seen a

646
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: challenge that he was afraid to rise to. You know,

647
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: coach has an office coordinator and a play caller. It

648
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: has to be a challenge to take someone who's very

649
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: gifted like Zach, who has a gun sling of mentality

650
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: while also trying to harness it and rain it in.

651
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: So he plays a delicate balance between how risk how

652
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: reward those things. How do you harness his talents to

653
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: make sure he plays within the confines of the offense

654
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: while allowing him to also be creative with his talents. Yeah,

655
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: for us, it was it was really just more of

656
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: beginning to trust him and him, I think, becoming more

657
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: and more willing to play within the system. And then

658
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: the more the more he grew as as a man

659
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: and as a member of our team, I think the

660
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: more we were willing to trust him. When I say we,

661
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: because it certainly wasn't just me. It was our head coach,

662
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: and it was Aaron Roderick who was who was his

663
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: position coach and really should be credited more than anyone

664
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: for Zach's development. Um, But I really feel like, you know,

665
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: once once Za got comfortable within the offense, the more

666
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: we trusted him to go out there and play uh

667
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: care free. Once once we really um and we certainly

668
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: worked to develop an offense that would that would fit him.

669
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: But I think he's a guy that does care about

670
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the team. He'd love to throw the football every play,

671
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: but he wants to win, and so I think as

672
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: he grew and developed as a player, we trusted him

673
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: more and more. And this this past year in particular,

674
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: there weren't very many times where we were saying be careful,

675
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: and there were very very few times that we were saying, hey,

676
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: now remember this. It was more or less just calling

677
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: the play and then hey, Zach, go do your thing.

678
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: And we trusted him that that when we when we

679
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: didn't have the best the best play call, that he

680
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: could find a way to run around and still make

681
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: something out of it. You know, coach in thinking about that,

682
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: let's let's pass forward and let's just say that you

683
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: were an NFL head coach went offensive coordinator and you

684
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: have Zack Wilson and you have the opportunity to build

685
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: an offensive around him. What do you think the best

686
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: offense is for him to play in? Like what things

687
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: need to be in at offense to maximiz who is Well?

688
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I think, first he can do it all. There's not

689
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: there's not anything in the game that he can't do.

690
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: He can make all the throws. I know that's a

691
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: that's a thing that a lot of people say, but

692
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I think it's it's uh, it's really not that true

693
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: about that many guys. He really can make all the

694
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: throws UM. He has tremendous timing and touch on the

695
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: deep ball UM. And so I think throwing the football

696
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: down the field is something that really made a made

697
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: a huge impact on our team and on on him,

698
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: uh his his progress this year. And so I think

699
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I would I would start with that a willingness to

700
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field UM with the play

701
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: action game and and be willing to to to throw

702
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: it deep several times a game, you know, not just

703
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: not just say we're going to take a shot every

704
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: now and then, but really make a commitment to throwing

705
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: the ball down the field because he has the ability

706
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: to make you pay and put the ball right on

707
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: the money with that. But he also has the ability

708
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: to get the ball out quick and make quick quick

709
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: decisions and the r P O and UH in quick game. UM.

710
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: So really he can do all of that stuff and

711
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: he has the mental capacity to handle handle it all

712
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: as well. The one thing that that I think we

713
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: really uh tried to do especially this year, is just

714
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: trying to keep him protected, you know, and so we

715
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: did not run a lot of six man protection. We

716
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: were a lot of seven man protection or five man protection,

717
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: with the idea that if we were going to throw

718
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: the ball down the field and let's protect him and

719
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: let's make sure that that he's not getting blindsided, or

720
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: if we're gonna make some rhythm throws and some progression reads,

721
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: then let's get as many people out as we can

722
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: and trust him to get rid of the ball. So

723
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: he end up just taking his your hits as possible.

724
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: And and then we asked him to do a little

725
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: bit of his own reading, a little bit of to

726
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: be run game, to be draw, that sort of thing.

727
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: But when I did, for the most part, it was

728
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna be close enough that he could score a touchdown.

729
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to get voice out of it, hopefully hopefully

730
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: not get him hit man. That's that's that's great. I'm

731
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: really impressed because all of the things that you described

732
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: are things that I saw on the tay when I

733
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: watched him at b by you he did a lot

734
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to run um a very

735
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: diverse and multiple offense. Can you walk us through a

736
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: little bit in terms of you talked about his mental capacity.

737
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: Always curious when he comes to quarterbacks about their preparation process. Um,

738
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: is he one of those guys comes in early, stays

739
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: late because he wants to know everything and kind of

740
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: dig into it. Talk a little bit about his process

741
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to getting ready to play. Yeah, he

742
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: probably watches more film than than any player that I've

743
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: ever been around. And with a lot of guys, it's

744
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: the film that you watch him that day. You know.

745
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: So a guy say, you're you have a Tuesday practice,

746
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: and so a guy goes home and he watches that

747
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: Tuesday practice before you even get back to the meetings

748
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: the next day. That's what you would hope as a

749
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: coach that a guy would do. And he does that,

750
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: But then he's also watching the opponent. Um if if

751
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: that Tuesday practiced entailed say all of our base down

752
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: run play action game and quit throws r p O s,

753
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: he's watching the opponent by formation. But then the next

754
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: day on Wednesday, he also knows we're gonna go to

755
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: third downs and red zone, so he's gonna be watching

756
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: that as well, which is a step beyond what most

757
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: guys do. But then also, um, on January, uh, when

758
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys aren't watching football at all, and

759
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: their coaches are on the road recruiting. He's watching film

760
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: and you know he's texting saying, Hey, coach, did you

761
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: see the Rams do the US this year? Did you

762
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: see this concept? I really like that. I think we

763
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: could do that. You know, he truly is a football

764
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: junkie and loves the game, loves the mental challenge of it.

765
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: And there are times I just I saw him do

766
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: things and and uh and was shocked by it. But

767
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't just his arm strength. That wasn't just a

768
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: guy out there free wheelling it and just throwing the

769
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: ball down the field in a in a certain spot

770
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: for no reason. That came from from a lot of

771
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: time and energy that that he put into it the

772
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: past few years. You know, it's funny. Um. Last question,

773
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: because I think with quarterbacks it's always unique in terms

774
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: of their leadership ability and those things. Um, when Zach

775
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: Wilson steps into the huddle, how does his leadership ability?

776
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Has his leadership ability conveyed to his teammates? I would

777
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: start by saying that he's done the work ahead of

778
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: time so that when he does step into the huddle,

779
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: he's already got their respect because they know no one

780
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: knows more about that opponent than he does. They know

781
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: that no one has thrown more balls than he has,

782
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: no one has spent more time with them, saying hey,

783
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: come on and come up here, you know, on June

784
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: in the summer at eight thirty pm. Because he's not

785
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: doing anything, he's going, hey, let's go up to the

786
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: field and throw for a little bit, you know. So

787
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I think they respect him the moment that he steps

788
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: into the huddle. Then he's got a real firm command

789
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: of the offense. He knows what he's doing. He reads

790
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: the play with confidence. And I would say the last

791
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: thing is he's got this um, this gleam in his eye,

792
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, this excitement for the game, uh, in which

793
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: people see that and go all right, I think I

794
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: think something really cool is about to happen because of

795
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: that twinkle I see in this guy's eye. He's got

796
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: a he's got an excitement about the game that I

797
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: think will spill over into his teammates. Buck. I think

798
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the Jets have done a pretty good job of trying

799
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: to put that fortress in front of Zach Wilson. When

800
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: you look at the trade up there for Elijah vera

801
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: Tucker guy we thought was the best interior alignment of

802
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: the draft to put him next to McKay backed and

803
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: that left sides in pretty good shape. Also getting him

804
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: some playmakers. When you look at what the Jets have

805
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: done in the offseason, you go out and you get

806
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, Um, you go out and your draft and

807
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: Elijah More. These are guys that can that can make plays.

808
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: You had them with Denzel Mims from last year and

809
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, you know, maybe a big

810
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: time tight end is something that they lack at this

811
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: point in time. I got some ability at the position,

812
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: but nobody's really established. So that's maybe on the to

813
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: do list. But overall, not a bad not a bad

814
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: group there for Zach to work with. No not a

815
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: big group to grow together, and I think that's a

816
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: big thing. When you have so many young players, they

817
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: have opportunity to grow together the next three or four

818
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: years and who knows what they can complish as they

819
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: continue to change the culture. You have a new coaching

820
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: staff putting a new offense and the defense in I

821
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: think this is a new start for the Jets and

822
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: so um. I think Joe d has done a really

823
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: good job of putting together a squad around Zack Wilson.

824
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Now it's about them growing up together and hopefully they

825
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: can work quickly there. Yeah, it'll be fun. It's gonna

826
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: be fun to watch that Jets offense. All right, let's

827
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: keep the theme going here at b y U and

828
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: let's go all the way up the ladder here to

829
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: the head coach. We had a chance to visit with

830
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: Kalani Sataki about his talented signal caller. Now thirty four

831
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Wilson going deep, Wilson towards the end zone and it

832
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: is good mill touchdown. Thinking about Wilson, he has grown

833
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: so much over three years as a starter. You always

834
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: talk about toughness when it comes to your program. What

835
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: kind of toughness does he exhibit? When you're able to

836
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: identify the toughness that you feel like it's necessary to

837
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback for your program. I think toughness

838
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: is a relative term, so it's using so many different ways.

839
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the people think tough is beating

840
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: your chests and and uh and and trying to fight,

841
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, And I think the toughest man in the

842
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: fight is the one wanting to walk away. So I'm

843
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: trying to talk about to toughness and things like that

844
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: that that I think really matter the most for these

845
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: young men and that this time and in their life,

846
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: and for for me, it's toughness is showing up on time,

847
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: being responsible and accountable for what you say, you know,

848
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: holding onto your word when you tell someone you're gonna

849
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: be there. Um, Letting know people that they can count

850
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: on you when when times are rough for them, being

851
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: a good friend. That's what toughness is to me. And

852
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: I've seen him do all those things. I've seen him

853
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: when he's struggling with his own injuries, look out to

854
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: serve others. And so you know, we do a lot

855
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: of service here as a team. But it's awesome when

856
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: you see guys that are reaching out to to other

857
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: people even when they're hurting um. And so to me,

858
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: I think it's important that we define toughness for these

859
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: young men and in the way that I see it,

860
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: in the way that I think could be the most

861
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: beneficial in the way they can grow. He is a

862
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: tough man because he does all the things that you

863
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: you asked of him and then more. And and sometimes

864
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: you don't even have to remind guys, and you know,

865
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: when you're thinking something as a coach and you're about

866
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: to say and then you hear your leaders say it,

867
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: like your quarterback, and you're like, all right, well, I

868
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: don't have to say anymore. That's to me, that's toughness

869
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: because you're being aware of what's going on and they're

870
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: not just all about you, it's about everyone else that's included.

871
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with that from him, But I

872
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: think toughness was kind of the theme there from that

873
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: conversation Buck, which is a character trait you have to

874
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: have at that position. You absolutely have to have it. Yeah,

875
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: you can't win or be successful at quarterback if you're

876
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: not a tough guy. And toughness is not only physical,

877
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: but your mental toughness. How do you respond to poor plays?

878
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: How do you respond when your team isn't really getting

879
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: it going when you're down? Can you dig yourself out

880
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: of a rut? Do you have those things? And then

881
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: the physical toughness is a big part of it, because

882
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: how do you respond after you've been hit? Does it

883
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: change the way that you perform? Can you play when

884
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: it's a little muddy in the pocket? And those things

885
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: and nor a lot about b y U, particularly Kina

886
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: Sataki and how they built this program at by U.

887
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: The only way Zack Wilson could have ever become the

888
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: QB one is he had to exhibit those qualities. I

889
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: think those qualities are also what um will allow him

890
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: to be successful at the next level. Yeah, I look,

891
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: I think we we start to see these things kind

892
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: of carry through these interviews, and I think you get

893
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: a sense for his passion. He definitely has a passion

894
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: for the game and that shows up in the work

895
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: that he does, the preparation that he has. All Right,

896
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: we talked to coaches, Let's get to a teammate, and

897
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: then why not a roommate as well. Uh, here is

898
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: the conversation you had buck with Dax Milne. Very talented

899
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: wide Receiver's gonna hear his name called in the NFL

900
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: draft as well. Okay, so you mentioned Zach Wilson was

901
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: your roommate. Talk a little bit about him. How is

902
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: he as a leader? Um? When you guys are on

903
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, he did a great job becoming a leader. Um.

904
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I think he really grew into it because you know,

905
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: he was a he was my quarterback freshman some year.

906
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: But um, you know, with injury and and being young. Um,

907
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: you know he kind of had the really grow into

908
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the leadership role. And and but this last season he

909
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: did a great job, you know, getting the team together

910
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: and um, you know, coming off the field after after

911
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: a series and and bringing us together and um, you know,

912
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: figuring out what what we could do differently or what

913
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: looks good, um talking to the coaches. So UM, pretty

914
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: proud of him and the way he handled him. So

915
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, so it's funny. So we get a chance

916
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: to watch you guys at your pro day and we're

917
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: watching all these seemingly imprompt two throws running all over,

918
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: throwing across his body or whatever. What is it like

919
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: to play with the guy who can man just leaning

920
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: to rock from any platform in any level? Like what

921
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: does that do for you as a wide receiver? Yeah,

922
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: it's it's really fun. There's a wide receiver to play

923
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: for someone like that that can just make frils like

924
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: that look easy. Um. And I to be honest, I

925
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: think I started to take that stuff for grant. Uh,

926
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: you know as my career went on. Um, I mean

927
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: you guys saw the pro day. Um, just the pure

928
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: arm talent he has, I just can't even It's just

929
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: it's weird. Um but I just it's it's it's good.

930
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: It's good that you are recognizing the the talent he has.

931
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Wilson's gonna haven't put pretty fuck it beautifully. It's a

932
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: little ball on a touchdown. Do you have a favorite,

933
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: uh throw, like a favorite memory of a throw that

934
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: happened in the game that you're just like, Wow, that

935
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: is one remarkable throw that my man just put up. Yes,

936
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: yes it was. He he rolled out right. I was

937
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: on a go route um on their sideline, and he

938
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: rolled out opposite of me, and I thought he was

939
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: now just kind of count me out. Um so, but

940
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: I just stayed running on the opposite sideline, and all

941
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he turned and I've seen the ball

942
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: go up in the air and I was like, oh

943
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: my gosh, that is the farthest or I've ever seen.

944
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: And the ball stayed in there for forever and finally

945
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: came down to me and I scored. All Right, Black,

946
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I'll get to you on this one. What was your

947
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway there from your conversation? You know, look,

948
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: the actually just talked about being his roommate and how

949
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: they just always were in rhythm they always understood it

950
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: because they spent so much time together. And how Zach

951
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Wilson is is a hard work. He just knows and

952
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: processes everything. But once again, and it always comes back

953
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: to the confidence and the swagger that he he brings

954
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: to the hall and he brings to the field. And

955
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: so I just think about um Wilson and the the

956
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: energy change that he potentially could bring to a team

957
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: like the Jets, Uh if he's selected. He has all

958
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: of the talent in the world, and he has the

959
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: confidence and I think guys feed off of that. And

960
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: so Dax just provided plenty of examples of how confidence,

961
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: how confident, and how self assured Zach Wilson is every

962
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: time he steps between the lines. Well, I thought, it's

963
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: interesting just growing into being a leader, you know, like

964
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: he that's not something that just takes place right away.

965
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: You kind of gotta earn that, you gotta kind of

966
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: grow into that. And it sounds like that really started

967
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: to develop and take place over his last year there

968
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: at b y U. Well, if we're gonna talk b

969
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: y U quarterbacks, this is a good person to visit with.

970
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: A guy that you and I both evaluated when he

971
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: was coming out of b y U and that's John Beck.

972
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: And and John not only is a a former b

973
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: y U quarterback, which would be reason enough to talk

974
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: to him for this piece, but he's also one of

975
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: the premier trainers working with these young quarterbacks, including the

976
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: quarterback we're discussing, Zack Wilson's working with him for a while. Um,

977
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: and you had a chance to sit down with John

978
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: and really kind of go through this entire process, uh,

979
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: and his understanding and knowledge of Zach, which I think

980
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: is fantastic. So here is your visit with John Beck.

981
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because you played at b BY

982
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: you had a terrific career by you, I played with

983
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: some b y U players, Todd Depmer and Jim McMahon

984
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: both we spent time together in Green Bay, and it's

985
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: always been a thing where by you developed quarterbacks. What

986
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: is it about your experience is at b y U

987
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: that enabled you to not only play in the National

988
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Football League, but to now pass on that knowledge to

989
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: others who as prior to play at that high level. Yeah,

990
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: it is a special group there. There's been a lot

991
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: of great quarterbacks that have come through. And I know

992
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: in my time there with that legacy of quarterbacks that

993
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: have gone before me. You want to be a part

994
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, there's a high expectation that's

995
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: there when you're the quarterback of that university. But it's

996
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: exciting to be a part of it. It's a great challenge,

997
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: and when things are good, it's usually because the quarterback

998
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: position is rolling there the rassle to hussle facts. It

999
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: also fills We saw this last year with Zack Wilson

1000
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: and the great job that he did, and now it's

1001
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: an exciting thing for him to come out of b

1002
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: y U and be another one of those guys. And

1003
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: and then in terms of how I helped the other quarterbacks,

1004
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: I think every quarterback has to be able to deal

1005
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: with expectations. They have to be able to do with

1006
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: that pressure and that standard. So some of those lessons

1007
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: that I've learned of coming from a place like that

1008
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: playing for some organizations in the NFL that have had

1009
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks as well, it's just being able to recognize

1010
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: how special it is to be a part of that

1011
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: legacy of quarterbacks. And then also just there is always

1012
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: an expectation. There's an expectation of performance, of efficiency, and

1013
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: it's part of the job that you have to be

1014
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: able to just handle each and every day you go

1015
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: out there. But it's exciting. It's a part that I

1016
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: quite frankly miss, but it's exciting that I get to

1017
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: help these guys, uh take on that challenge themselves. Well,

1018
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: it has to be extra exciting when you're able to

1019
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: see someone really blossom right in front of your eyes

1020
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: at your alma mater. Zack Wilson really had a breakthrough

1021
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: season in Talk a little bit about your relationship with him.

1022
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: Where you guys first met and how do you kind

1023
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: of have developed this relationship over the past few years. Yeah.

1024
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I had a chance to meet Zack during his freshman year.

1025
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: He graduated high school early. He was one of those

1026
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: early graduates in the rolls in January. The way I

1027
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: met Zack was his uncle was actually bringing his son out,

1028
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Zack's cousin doing some work with us, and he just said, Hey,

1029
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: I really think that my nephew needs to come out

1030
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: here and take a look at this. And so I

1031
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: got to meet him right after spring balls freshman year

1032
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: and he's been training with us for I think it's

1033
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: coming up on three years now. Uh, and it's been great.

1034
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: It's been great to see his development as a player.

1035
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: He's always been really special in terms of athleticism and

1036
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: how much he loves the game, his approach and his

1037
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: drive towards becoming the best he can be. But it's

1038
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: been cool to see that maturation process in terms of

1039
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: decision making, also in terms of just rising to even

1040
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: becoming a better player. Each year he always set out

1041
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: with I want to improve in these areas and how

1042
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: to kind of tie in his athleticism and all those

1043
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: things and his arm talent, and each year see how

1044
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of like jumped the level, jumped the level.

1045
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: And then this year, I mean quite frankly, he went

1046
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: out there and put together an amazing year. And it's

1047
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: been cool to see because it's been three years. It's

1048
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: not something where in years past I meet a guy

1049
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: in January where they play their final bowl game or

1050
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: playoff game. I meet them in January and we start working.

1051
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: This has been different. This has been knowing him since

1052
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: he was eighteen years old, and to to see that

1053
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of dream come to life and now he's going

1054
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: to be a top draft pick has been really cool.

1055
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's really cool ohmayah in as an evaluator

1056
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: is to really see the light come on for him

1057
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: when you watch him this season, you see him make

1058
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: remarkable plays and you also see his confidence bill week

1059
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: after week after week. How have you seen him mature

1060
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: since you guys have worked together and how did it

1061
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: really come together this year? I think some things really

1062
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: fell in place in terms of alignment there at the university.

1063
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Right it's the same offense. He was able to have

1064
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Grimes and Aaron Roderick as offensive coordinators, wide receiver

1065
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: coach Uh Fessie. That was there that really keeping that

1066
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: system in place allowed him to grow within the same system.

1067
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't needing to relearn an offense or have new

1068
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: philosophies or concepts. So it was this continual let me

1069
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: put something out during the season, and then he's the

1070
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: type of guy that's gonna go back and watch every

1071
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: single game three times, and he's gonna go and take

1072
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: notes every single time of all right, here's what I did,

1073
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: then what can I do now? And to see that

1074
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: coupled with every day he came out here and with us,

1075
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: it was always about what can I do to improve

1076
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: my game? To take myself to the elite level. He

1077
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: wasn't just trying to be better than average. He wanted

1078
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: to be elite and he was the same way when

1079
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: he was a freshman and softcore. But you know, he

1080
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: had to battle through some things. He had a surgery

1081
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: that he had to kind of work through, and that

1082
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: makes it tough when when you're trying to improve as

1083
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: a player and you have to either learn a new offense,

1084
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: overcome some type of injury through rehabilitation, it's just not

1085
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: the same as when you get an offseason to kind

1086
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: of come in and really just focus on improving as

1087
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: a player in the same system. And I think that

1088
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: coupled with the fact of having some really good players

1089
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: around him. He had a really good group of wide receivers.

1090
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: The running backs did a great job. He had a

1091
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: great offensive line. Any quarterback knows if I want to

1092
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: play well, I depend so much on the guys around me.

1093
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot of areas that you

1094
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: can point a finger and say it's because of this,

1095
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: it's because of this, it's because of that, and it's

1096
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: the guys around him, it's the coaches around him, and

1097
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: then right in the nucleus of all that is how

1098
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Zach approached everything. He has a great approach to the game,

1099
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: and things really came together for him this last year. Man,

1100
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: did it ever come together? The form? When I wrote

1101
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: in my notes while I was evaluated, I wrote down

1102
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: the natural because when I look at him, I think

1103
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: he plays a game in a very natural fashion, meaning

1104
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: he could play on script or off the script. He

1105
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: can make big boy throws, but he also has the

1106
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: discipline to kind of take things underneath. How hard is

1107
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: it to be a very talented player but harness it

1108
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: and just take what the defense gives you. How hard

1109
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: did you work with him on that part of the game. Well,

1110
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in my in my job, there

1111
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: were some conversations, but I'm sure that his coaching staff, they're,

1112
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: like I said, the coordinators, they probably spent far more

1113
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: time discussing decision making within a play. You know, there

1114
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: were times in the off season that we would talk

1115
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: or sometimes even in season, about just being smart. Sometimes

1116
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: very talented guys when they're young, they want to do

1117
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: so much. They have such a confidence in themselves and

1118
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: they haven't really had those scars yet of you know,

1119
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: trying to do too much and so they're always willing

1120
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: to like go for it, to push to to try

1121
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: to make the great play. And I love that about Zack.

1122
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: And that's where you when you talk about acturation as

1123
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you see that that I'm learning how to

1124
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: be smart. I'm learning how to play within the downs.

1125
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm learning what can pay. I don't need to take

1126
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: that chance right now because I know I can still

1127
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: do this. And then when you couple that with his athleticism,

1128
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: at any time, he can make that game breaking play.

1129
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to force that ball on second down

1130
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: play to live another down, because you never know within

1131
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: the game when that opportunity is to come, is is

1132
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: going to come to just capitalize. And he's got all

1133
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: the tools to capitalize in those big play moments. He's

1134
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: got the mobility, he's got the arm strength. Like you said,

1135
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: he's a natural player when it comes to throwing and

1136
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: playing off platform. Opportunities will arise for him to make

1137
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: great plays during a game. And you could see that

1138
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: throughout his freshman and sophomore years. Just at times there

1139
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: were those decisions of trying to do too much. And

1140
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: I think as I look at this last year man,

1141
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: he just seemed like in such control of managing games,

1142
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: of knowing when to take those opportunities and knowing when

1143
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: to just let me live to play another down. You know,

1144
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: it's funny because you mentioned his confidence um when your

1145
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: work with them on Like what is that? What is

1146
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: this confidence level? Like when you watch him practice and

1147
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: then when you watch him perform. Yeah, you know, I

1148
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: get to see him an environment here during his off seasons.

1149
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: I watch all the games, but I don't get to

1150
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: be around him during the week in preparation for the season.

1151
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: But out here you get this sense that he just

1152
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: always is so willing to push through, Like give me

1153
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: the next challenge, give me that tough throw, because even

1154
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: if I don't get it today, I'm gonna work on

1155
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: it and I'm going to be aware of what I

1156
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: need to do, and when I come back, I'm gonna

1157
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: want to show you that I can make that throw.

1158
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I really loved about the way

1159
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: that Zack approached things. It was just this, uh, this

1160
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: excitement for give me that challenging throw, because he has

1161
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: that confidence of believing that, hey, I think I can

1162
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: do it, and he's got that little bit of swagger,

1163
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: right He's got that little bit of like that that

1164
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: fine line between cocky and confident, and I love that,

1165
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: and I think anyone that's played in the NFL knows that, Like,

1166
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: you gotta have that. So I loved in our opportunities

1167
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: to work together to be able to push him like

1168
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: I push a lot of the pros. Sometimes you get

1169
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: collegiate guys in there trying to figure it out, and

1170
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: then you get that cool opportunity to work with guys

1171
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: that you see so much of what you see in

1172
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: the pros, where those guys that are succeeding at the

1173
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: next level they want that same challenge, Like I have

1174
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: so many cool opportunities to work with guys, and I

1175
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: just I see that in their workouts. Push me, push me,

1176
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: push me. They want it. They want to be pushed

1177
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: to be that best. And Zack demonstrated that from a

1178
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: young player all these years he's been with us. But

1179
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: John does a wonderful job there Buck at the three

1180
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: DQB Training Company. Um, they are really cutting edge in

1181
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: terms of the stuff that they're doing, Uh, working with

1182
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and making the better players. I thought, man,

1183
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: coming out of that, you get a sense for why

1184
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: people are flocking to work out with John Beck. Yeah,

1185
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you you certainly understand that. I think the thing that

1186
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: is unique because John obviously has a unique perspective on Zack,

1187
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: not only from training him, but from playing at b

1188
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 1: y U. So he understands how that marriage has to work.

1189
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: And when you think about how Zack had to kind

1190
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: of work himself into the point of being an elite prospect,

1191
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: and how he always wants more and just a competitive

1192
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: nature that he also brings to the position. I just

1193
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: think you want your quarterbacks to be wired the right way,

1194
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: and so we can talk about like the intelligence and

1195
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: those things, but the toughness and the competitiveness may matter

1196
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: even more than that stuff. And Zach has that, and

1197
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I think anyone who is listening understands that he is

1198
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: a very very special player. And the special quality stem

1199
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: from the inside, not necessarily the outside stuff in terms

1200
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: of the athleticism in the arm talent. All right, buck Well,

1201
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I mean, Zack Wilson has got a lot

1202
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: of energy. It's gonna bring a lot of excitement here

1203
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: to the Jets. Expectations I guess here early on from

1204
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: you are what I expected them to hit the ground running. Um,

1205
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: this offense. This system has worked, and it's worked everywhere

1206
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: that has been I think obviously the Jets to kind

1207
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: of spoon feed him a little bit when it comes

1208
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: to responsibility, but I think the running game should pop

1209
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: right away, and they can get the running game going.

1210
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: I think it makes it very easy for Zack Wilson

1211
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: to show off some of the spectacular ability that he

1212
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: has um. But it's all about the guys up front.

1213
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he's going to work. I expect didn't have

1214
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: some wild moments during his rookie season that kind of

1215
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: reminds us why he was the second overall pick. Yeah.

1216
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: To me, the biggest thing is just gonna be protect

1217
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: the football. You know, try and protect the football. Don't

1218
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: try and do too much. I think that would be

1219
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: the only concern is that he's so gifted and so talented.

1220
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna learn. He's gonna probably take a little bit

1221
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: of a learning curve here to learn some of these throws.

1222
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be able to make that maybe in

1223
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: his mind he thinks he can make. It's just a

1224
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: different level. Um, So we'll see how that adjustment goes.

1225
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised he did see some

1226
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: turnovers early, but hopefully he'll figure that out as he

1227
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: goes along. All right, this has been a it's been

1228
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: a fun episode. I hope you guys have learned a

1229
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: lot about Zack Wilson and uh, I know the Jets

1230
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: are fired up about him. I know he's fired up

1231
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: and and we're fired up. And see how it all

1232
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: comes together and see how it all works out. Would

1233
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: encourage you guys to check out the other three sixty

1234
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: episodes we have, which are on the other quarterbacks in

1235
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: justin Fields as well as an excellent one on Trevor Lawrence,

1236
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: so you can be on the lookout for those. Uh.

1237
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: And again we'll have all your all your needs covered,

1238
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: all your football needs covered here on Move the Six.

1239
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: As we were in the off season post draft, we've

1240
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: got plenty still to discuss as we marched towards the campaign. Buck,

1241
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: have you wrapped your mind around the fact that we

1242
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: are going to be discussing a seventeen game schedule next year?

1243
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: So when you see a team that you think is

1244
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: just okay, you're gonna have to say this is probably

1245
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: an eight and nine team. Yeah, yeah, No more five

1246
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: squads it would be different, but I'm excited about it. Man.

1247
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm just got one more game, more opportunities, more opportunity.

1248
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 1: Guess by there you go. All right, Well that's gonna

1249
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: do it for us. I hope you guys have enjoyed

1250
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: this Zach Wilson three sixty episode, and we'll catch you

1251
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: next time. Right here on, move the sticks.