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Speaker 1: The volume. The NFL version of this topic, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: I think he's wanted a handful of guy that have

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Speaker 1: They now they they resigned Brown, they resigned Uh uh

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. He understands he's not bigger than the program.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He understands that, yes, we're successful.

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Speaker 1: And I may be the person that everybody focuses on

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen it, We've seen it done.

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because Jalen understands as the faith of

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Speaker 2: I can get that money.

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Speaker 1: We can go get that money through sponsorship deals and

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Speaker 1: sneaking deals and all this stuff we can get. We

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Speaker 1: is not hurting for money. Nope, he's not hurting for

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Speaker 1: opportunities for money. He's seen what that check was before

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Speaker 2: So if we want more money, we got to win

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Speaker 1: If I want to have more money and be a

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Speaker 1: bigger force in this game, I've got to win more championships.

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Speaker 1: And in order to do that, there are certain pieces

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Speaker 1: That's the only way the NFL is is great at that,

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Speaker 1: But I've also been in a situation where I got

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Speaker 1: I don't go to award shows really anymore. Me and

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Speaker 1: because you got you got people that, like you say,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it's no allowed situation of protesting so

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Speaker 1: He was a larger than life personality. He was winning

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Speaker 2: It's not America's pastime. No, it's not you.

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Speaker 1: So this fascination because there's so many other things. You

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Speaker 1: I don't think he felt the need to run. He

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Speaker 1: but hey you evident up for everybody else? Hey, hey

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Speaker 1: sydey mclauchlin's and Lebron said, I don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Well if that think hold on, if that's the case, Hell,

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Speaker 1: Michael Felim should have got a shoot.

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Speaker 1: If we throwing our shoes.

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Speaker 2: This is true because they're more accomplished than you in

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Speaker 1: So the Olympics champions and more cost than you.

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Speaker 2: A two time Olympic champ. She's the world record holder.

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Speaker 1: She's what a two or three time I mean she

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Speaker 2: And see and what Michael did. What really put Michael.

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Speaker 2: I think he's phenomenal. I think he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: He's he's he's great, But Bro, just run get the

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Speaker 2: If you say gonna go villain, just go all out.

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Speaker 1: Tell him go race, I show speed, then I talk.

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Speaker 2: That's every four years, just imagine.

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Speaker 1: that's something something. Where where are you on? Where are

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Speaker 1: So that's not a threat. They don't do friends anyway,

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Speaker 1: That's a dangerous man. I'm not saying that's a man

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lose a meal, my family, not gonna

432
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: lose a quality of life. You be very careful when

433
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: you decide to go toe to told with somebody like that.

434
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: You be very careful because most of us do have

435
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: things to lose. Most of us do need public favor

436
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: in order to make money of it. Most of us

437
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: do need relationships and friends and not to burn bridges

438
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: with people in order to susain certain qualities of life.

439
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that brother operate like that. And when

440
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: somebody and there's a freedom that comes in writing when

441
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: you don't let me tell you something. There's a difference

442
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: when you make music because you have to, as opposed

443
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: because you won't to.

444
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: There's a difference. There's a freedom that comes with that.

445
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: There's a confident that comes with that because you're not thinking, ooh,

446
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: what if so and so, what if then what if

447
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: these people or if Pitchfork don't put me on the

448
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: list and all of this type of stuff. What if

449
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: Apple don't put me on the playlist, so I don't

450
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: get on the Spotify playlist all of these days.

451
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: Some people don't that that's not contingent on them.

452
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: Eating at night for most of us is absolutely a

453
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: part of It's an unavoidable part of it. But I

454
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: don't think he operating in that space. So I think

455
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: he is willing to just throw caution to the wind

456
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, I don't really fuck

457
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: with him anyway. And they not lose.

458
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: They don't.

459
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: It is not you don't see push that award show.

460
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: You don't see them at clubs and party. They don't

461
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: mix like that. They mix with their own and they're

462
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: pretty good in the streets as well. So it's it's

463
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: whatever that being said. Travis ain't about the back down.

464
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: Trafficks ain't about the back down. So you say traffick

465
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: coming back, traffic gonna come back with a person on

466
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: and own. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear seven

467
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: before the wig None.

468
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: It's neither.

469
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: It's neither to go into it or act like it

470
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: didn't happen. But the problem is is that the people

471
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: are going to demand a response. With these things happen,

472
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: you have to respond. You can you can't let you can't.

473
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: You can't that would be the biggest bad iubble let it.

474
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let it go blister like a water

475
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: off a duck's back. I'm just gonna let it roll down.

476
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 1: And not if that ain't been a part of your

477
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: character all this time. You know what I'm saying, You

478
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: can't be You can't be walking around with gloves on

479
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: the way for somebody to tie them up and then

480
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: turn it down the first fight you get.

481
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I'm saying.

482
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: So, And I've been around Travis enough to know that, No,

483
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna take that line down. He's absolutely not

484
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: going to allow his public perception to be played with

485
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: like that. But you gotta be careful when people try

486
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: to bait you in. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

487
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: You got very pusher if if if a this artist

488
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: we got he got he got one of the best

489
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: discy you know him, and he went at Drake. He

490
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: operates in his face. This is not new to him.

491
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: This is not a problem for him. And he don't

492
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: answer to people in that way. Not saying that Travis

493
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: answered to people. But Travis got a fan base that's huge,

494
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: like international, millions and millions of people around the world

495
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: who have bought into Travis Scott. You know what I'm saying.

496
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why he got him collambed with sneaker Nike.

497
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: And you know he's got the relationship with with Louis

498
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Vuitton as wellet. Absolutely, So this is going to happen,

499
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be Look, we've only heard two

500
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: songs and he did somebody on both songs. It's not over.

501
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: I don't. I think there's a couple of more targets down.

502
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: I think that I think target there's no there's no

503
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: telling who Pusher don't like for whatever reason, and there's

504
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: no telling if he's gonna decide to speak on him.

505
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he's not. He's not a

506
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: not a quiet guy. He's not a quiet guy. He's

507
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: not a scary guy, not easily pushed pushed around. You

508
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, No pun intended. So it's it's

509
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch out this play out. It's

510
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: really it really is. The traffics is either gonna have

511
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: to ignore it or go all in. Wow, that's that's

512
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: the only way these things work. Because I don't I

513
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: don't pushes a guy. I said what I said, and

514
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm done kind of a thing. So if there's more

515
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: slugs to be shot, it's gonna be at more rappers.

516
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: It won't be multiple shots at one or two people.

517
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: If he go, if he jumping off, if you drop

518
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: it off the porch, he's gonna jump all the way

519
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: off the porch, not two steps down. He's gonna be Yeah,

520
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: you'll get back home.

521
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: He's gonna stay off the porch.

522
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: He off you off. But I like this stuff, and

523
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: it keeps it keeps you wraps fun, It keeps you fresh,

524
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: and it reminds people to not get comfortable wax. That's fine,

525
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: that's fine. And I don't think these guys move in

526
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: the same social circles to where their camps would ever

527
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: really kind of be well, people don't wear these things right,

528
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: so to each other.

529
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even them.

530
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Promoters.

531
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: The smart promoters will try to avoid that.

532
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: Most people's teams won't allow them to be booked in

533
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: the same place anyway, because you'd have to be a

534
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: missive promoter to try to book uh, you know, like

535
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Drake and Kendrick at the same festival. Drake's people not

536
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: because only one can can close, right if both of

537
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: them feel they and so this promoter is not gonna

538
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: get into that or their representation. It's not gonna allow

539
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: them to be pulled then to that type of thing.

540
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how many people

541
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: he did on his album and those were people respond

542
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: because wrap and manage a response now, because like I

543
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: talked about, the equipment, you know, music equipment and all

544
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: that stuff is so much cheaper. The technology is cheaper,

545
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: so you ain't got to wait book no studio. Most

546
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: of these dudes among timean they got to studio at

547
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the crib YEP.

548
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: We can go in and make make something about this

549
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: right now? Or do you think hold it back?

550
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna see more of this because

551
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: of the success that Kendrick had with his shot that

552
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: he took at Drake and you look at what it

553
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: parlayed into. He got the super Bowl, he got what

554
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: five Grammys. He he's selling out the most I think

555
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars in one show.

556
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: All of his shows with Scissa is selling out.

557
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Are we are we hitting down a path where people

558
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: see that this is a way that Okay, we saw

559
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: what Kendrick did let's take this role too. You gotta

560
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: bring ass to kick ass. So I would not recommend

561
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: people think that that's how that goes. That if you did,

562
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: somebody jump out that No, no, no, that's not how

563
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: that works. First of all, you got to be more

564
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: talented than the other person. You know what I'm saying.

565
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Kendrick is one of the most single talented, single most

566
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: talented writers. We have one of the deepest thinkers that

567
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: we have. So going there against everybody ain't gonna be

568
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: your forte. You know what I'm saying. Everybody ain't built

569
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to be dissed. I don't know if people understand that.

570
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Everybody's not built for public humiliation, you know what I'm saying,

571
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Like some people will overthink those things, and.

572
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't.

573
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: I've never thought everybody that I knew I could beat them.

574
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: You get no satisfaction out of that. Yeah, I don't

575
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: get no points, I don't getting no credit. You know

576
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a weaker person, so punching down

577
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: is not gonna work. And everybody can't punch up, so

578
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: somebody's got to lose. So again, it all goes back to, yeah,

579
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: you can engage in this stuff and it'll be fun

580
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: and you'll get some streams or whatever, but somebody gonna lose.

581
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: They can you afford to lose in those spaces. I

582
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: feel like push you can. I don't think being popular

583
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: changes anything for him, you know what I'm saying. He's

584
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: always been a unique taste. Like he's made street music

585
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: and they've had commercial success, but they've never toured in

586
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: that way. Right, They aren't dependent on the other parts

587
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: of the machine that everyone else is solely dependent on.

588
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Because we don't have somebody like for real, who's you know,

589
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: always going to produce everything we do. So we know

590
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: we're getting a hit record who's always going to have

591
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: his hands into some major cultural happenings, you know what

592
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we'll always be a part of it.

593
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: It's always doing these huge deals, so we'll always be

594
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: in this position of financial benefit working with him. So

595
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: all this other shit ain't nothing. We just had fun.

596
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I believe this is very, very fun for Pushy because

597
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: there's no threat to an it. The Right Complex listed

598
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: the thirtieth thirty Corneus rapt Beasts of All Time. You

599
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: see that list. We're gonna put the lists up there

600
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: So if I have not seen this list, please put

601
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Speaker 1: this list up. We can't, Okay, I wanna name a

602
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Speaker 1: couple of them, Coolie O and Weird Al True Life

603
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604
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605
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606
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607
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609
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Speaker 1: Cannabis Joey badass Versus Little, Beat Charles hamilton Versus Soldier,

610
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Speaker 1: Boy Young la Versus Ali, Boy, Eminem Nick, CANNON, Pm

611
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Speaker 1: don Krs, One Terry, Kennedy, Loupe, Fiasco Common, DRAKE Mc,

612
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613
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614
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Speaker 1: JAY Z.

615
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616
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Boy you you thinking the same, Thing say he it

617
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: was somebody all the. Time you, know there was a

618
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of resentment for, him just on general. Principal people

619
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: thought that he hadn't sacrificed and worked hard enough to

620
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: get what he had. Gotten had, boy you know he

621
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Speaker 1: had the first, iPhone, Right, okay had the first ye

622
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: had the first microphone, too you know that he.

623
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: Tried he had the first Trip.

624
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Berbon, now the only one of those that weren't, corny

625
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: the only one of those out of all those you,

626
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: named that was actually a situation which that it didn't

627
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: have anything in, music was a true Life Jim jones.

628
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Situation that was something that was was not, music that

629
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: was something that filled into music from some street things going.

630
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: On so that one was actually that wasn't going that

631
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: people could have really gotten hurt with that in that.

632
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Situation but the.

633
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Rest of, themself, folks people would argue with or not

634
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: though some of those people are even considered rap legitimate,

635
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: rappers like we'd we'd aw come, on, bro why why

636
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: are we even coolier? On and we'd Recipes coolie on

637
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: first ball to THE O. G, yeah but yeah we're.

638
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Rapping we'd al don't even go, together and the Same Bad,

639
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Speaker 1: Barbie Bad Bad barbie And Alabama. Barker really that's what we're.

640
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Doing are they really even Considered like And i've Known

641
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: alabama's since she was a little. Girl i've had a

642
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: relationship With travis for many many years. NOW i just

643
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Speaker 1: don't they just playing on the. Internet, Bro they're Not

644
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: these people are not. Rappers they make rap. Music and

645
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: that's the. Problem like we live in an age now

646
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: where people make rap music who aren't rappers but may

647
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: have a.

648
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Following you know What i'm. Saying you got a lot of, streamers.

649
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: Right these guys stream for you, know their content is fairly,

650
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: long so a lot of them they're streaming for hours

651
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and they can only get you, know that one, person

652
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: that one view during that. Stream but if they make

653
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: a song and the song's only three minutes long as

654
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: opposed to one hour, stream they could get replays on that.

655
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Stream so you have guys LIKE i met the guy

656
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Rices gum he's from he's with The phase clan and

657
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: all those guys the. Streamers, right he's one of the

658
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: top streamers in the world and he made a record

659
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: just because he, could and it got like eight million

660
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: views in like no time because he's already got the.

661
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Audience so views Don't views don't don't mean views don't equal.

662
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Talent And i'm not saying that rights have hapen to.

663
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Talent the st streamer he. Was he was a decent

664
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: enough rapp or, whatever but that don't mean talent and

665
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: that shit don't translate into real. World you have a

666
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: lot of, people they get a lot of attention, online

667
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: they get a lot of streams and all of, that

668
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: but they couldn't book a show to same day like

669
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: because nobody really wants to see an extended version of

670
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: that in the.

671
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: World LIKE i ain't got time to really.

672
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: Go you're not watch, it But i'm not gonna pay

673
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: no money to go watch right right, exactly you know

674
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: What i'm. Saying so a lot of these people they just,

675
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: trying they playing that, rap you know What i'm. Saying,

676
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: now you know the J, coles The commons and all

677
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: of those people are, RIGHT a lot of that tother

678
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: is just, misunderstanding you know What i'm. SAYING a lot

679
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: of those were just really, misunderstandings and people like LIKE

680
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: i don't like why this guy's, here and they don't

681
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: really even know these, people you, Know Third, BASE mc

682
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: hammer and all of that type of stufwhere to be,

683
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: honest no beef when hammer was coined Because hamil was

684
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: really about them. Streets hammilo was really. Outside but people

685
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: think they can shoot at no hanging. Fruit that's everything

686
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: you talk. About one of those people thought they was

687
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: really rapping and they thought the other person really wasn't

688
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: even gonna be able to hang in the. Competition but

689
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: we live in The internet age, now this this one

690
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: has very little to do with the. Music it's always

691
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: about the content and go and live and rocking shit

692
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: on people and calling people out their name and pulling

693
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: up and, yeah, man we will pull up an old

694
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: block and we donn pull up over, here and ain't

695
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: nobody outside where y'all?

696
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: At we out here and all of. That it goes

697
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: beyond the.

698
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Music the music gonna be one video, post but the

699
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: beef gonna be twenty five.

700
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Because we're not buying Any we're not just buying.

701
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: Music no. Motion AND i don't think people realize that

702
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: we're not buying. Music we buyding any. Personality we're buind the.

703
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Person you know What i'm. Saying the music is, Cool

704
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: but as far as the average consumer, feels everybody can,

705
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: rap everybody can make, song my, doorman the boy at

706
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: the larger. Back they can make a, rhyme the guy

707
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: that that that brought my dinner to me at the,

708
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: restaurant he can rhyme making all. Rap but who are

709
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: you as a? Person you know What i'm. Saying people

710
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: can't just like they want to feel like they're a

711
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: part of. You they want to feel like they really know.

712
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: You they want to go on that walk with. YOU

713
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: i tell all up and coming artists film, everything put

714
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: every shoot everything you, do and shoot it all because

715
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: you don't know what part of your life people don't

716
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: actually connect. TO i was doing music for.

717
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: YEARS i put a post and all of that AND

718
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: i get a reasonable.

719
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Response but we started doing food videos a couple of

720
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: years ago with my, granddaughter me and my. Wife my

721
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: granddaughter started doing food. VIDEOS i started a YouTube. PAGE

722
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: i got one hundred and thirty seven thousand followers on

723
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: my YouTube page BECAUSE i was doing like sixty Second

724
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: instagram video and that started the, blog which Started. TREILBURGERS

725
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: i had no idea people were interested in WHAT i

726
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: was eating for, dinner, right you know What i'm.

727
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Saying so you share all of these things and you

728
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: find out what.

729
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Clicks you know What i'm, Saying you got a bigger

730
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: relationship with the public now as a as a podcast

731
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: or as an interviewer than you probably ever had as

732
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: an athlete. Ever you know What i'm. Saying now that

733
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: you're really and now that you realize that gives you a,

734
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: stronger deeper connection with, People now we can really play with.

735
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: This that's what y'all wanted from, me was to. Talk

736
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: y'all must not know how Much i'd like to talk.

737
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Anyway let's get to. It let's get to. It timberland

738
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: got blasted on social media for using a producer's beat

739
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: at a producer's tag to train HIS ai platform. Souno

740
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: tim previewed a demo record which utilized the beat tag

741
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: from K fresh and lyrics from TikTok. Creator he sought

742
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: to make a new version of the, song but users

743
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: quickly noticed they were a bit too. Similar they called

744
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: out The virginia producer using real music made by human

745
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: beings to TRAIN ai without crediting or paying. Them bun

746
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: AND i REMEMBER i remember having a conversation With tim

747
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i had him on the, pod and he said

748
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: he was nervous about. This bun do you think about the.

749
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: Controversy what do you think is going on with tim

750
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: and this NEW ai. CREATION i THINK i, think for,

751
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: one it's uncharted, territory AND i think it's still in

752
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: a very early stages of the. TECHNOLOGY i think it's

753
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: going to grow over leaps and bounds over the next

754
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: couple of years because they covered so much ground in

755
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: the last ten years WITH ai.

756
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: Technology you know What i'm.

757
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: SAYING ai companies are starting to pop up more and,

758
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: more and they're all billion dollar. Companies people are flooding

759
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: these companies with all kinds of. MONEY i think IT'S

760
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: i think this is the. PROBLEM i think that we're

761
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: not thinking about this what they're doing now. All the

762
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: only way THAT ai can do these things is if

763
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: you feed it. Information you have to feed it. INFORMATION i,

764
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: know on a very small, level on the introductory, level

765
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: there are musicians who are FEEDING ai machines their, voices their,

766
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: cadences their, tones some of them the way they play.

767
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: Instrumentation and now THE ai program can replicate what a

768
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: rhyme from you would sound like without you having to write,

769
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: it what cords being played would sound like without you

770
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: having to play of you know What i'm saying that's very.

771
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Dangerous here's the real danger.

772
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: Thought WHAT i. Believe we live in the digital, world,

773
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: right all these everything digital has what they call watermarks, yep,

774
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: right and watermarks and what they use to track the

775
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: technology as it goes out into the. World so companies

776
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: can be, like, oh that's what they, do that's our.

777
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: TECHNOLOGY i bet we can find it in the, code,

778
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: right that kind of a. THING i think everybody that's

779
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: utilizing this stuff right, NOW i feel like one day

780
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: CHAT gpt can wake up one day and, say everybody

781
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: that's ever made music using my, technology you on the

782
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: piece of, it and there's nothing you can. SAY i

783
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: don't believe that anybody's read their, agreement. Right i'm sure

784
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: if somebody got through these CHAT gpt and all these

785
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT ai companies agreements where you agree to utilize the

786
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: technology or download the app and all of, THAT i

787
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: guarantee that they are going to go back find out

788
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: everything that was created using their, technology that profited that

789
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: will sit out into the world.

790
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: As commerce and people spend money on.

791
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: It they gonna come back the same way that older

792
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: artists are coming back because somebody sampled their. Music. Right

793
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: i've created that you took my creation and manipulated it

794
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: without paying. Me you owe me. MONEY i believe these

795
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: people are giving this technology out to people for free

796
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: and the hopes that they utilize it, unknowingly giving these

797
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: companies a piece of this intellectual, property because it's all intellectual, property, absolutely.

798
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: You know What i'm.

799
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Saying SO i THINK i won't touch, IT i won't

800
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: download it, nothing because not That i'm against, it you,

801
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: know for recreational, USE i guess that's fine if it

802
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: helps organized things and put things.

803
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: Together you, know, however THAT i.

804
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: Understand but when we're talking about utilizing this technology to

805
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: manipulate intellectual, properties, bro we're playing the dangerous ass. Game

806
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: because somebody could just start Feeding Ai timberlin's beat, structures

807
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. Saying they can start utilizing his

808
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: drum patterns and put that in and they a trembling

809
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: record without, him you, know. Wow and you're opening yourself,

810
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: up quite frankly with the way he's doing, it to

811
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot of litigation and a whole lot of. Trouble,

812
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: PERSONALLY i don't Think america is the market for. That

813
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: japan And china's been doing it for, years, right you

814
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying but that's a cultural. Thing they're

815
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: they're so they socialize different in certain. Countries so having

816
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: a relationship with someone that, THAT i, know this shit sounds,

817
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: crazy but having a relationship with a, machine for some

818
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: people fits their lifestyle a lot. Better it doesn't work

819
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: like because they don't have they don't have the social

820
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: graces to go out and meet people and and commune

821
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: with people in that. Way so this is a, healthy

822
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: in their minds. Alternative but here, now at some, point

823
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: we don't want to see somebody get on stage and

824
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: sing this, shit you know What i'm. Saying and you

825
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: know it's it's the it's the a, llure, Right it's

826
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: still allure like making The stallion is a famous person

827
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: because men find her, attractive women find her, attractive you

828
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: know What i'm.

829
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Saying there's an allure to.

830
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: It japan And china has that very strange relationship with

831
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: technology in that way where they they don't just make,

832
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: robots they have relationships with robots and pillows and all

833
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: of that type of shit is. DIFFERENT i don't think

834
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: that he can break a star like, that because at

835
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: some point somebody got to get on the, stage somebody

836
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: got to sign an, autograph somebody got to take a,

837
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: picture you. Know AND i don't think we want to

838
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: see a robot and a computer do that to the

839
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: point of touring right. Today but you, know you, know

840
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: ten YEARS i might be. Different, Look i'm an analog.

841
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: DUDE i come up on eight tracks and putting forty

842
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: five's on the. Record i'm not knocking, it BUT i

843
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: think we don't understand it enough to utilize it than

844
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: the way that we try to utilize. IT i think

845
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: that's the real problem With. TIM i don't think he's

846
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: really thinking of the Cons everybody USES ai for what

847
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: they think they can make it work, for but nobody's

848
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: thinking about how this could set Back And timing is

849
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: such a major impactful player in the entertainment industry that

850
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: that shit could really people would follow suit if he became,

851
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: Successful if he and his artist becomes, successful this will

852
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: be a. Thing it will be a whole. Thing Will

853
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: smith is reflecting on Raising jaden And willow and revealed

854
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: that honesty isn't always the best when parenting your. Children

855
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: we made a very very very very terrible mistake with our,

856
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: children and we went radical, honesty but don't do. It

857
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: i'm not advocating for. It i'm not advocating for. It

858
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: we made a deal from really young with our. Kids

859
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: the deal was you tell the, truth you won't get in.

860
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Trouble he explained that the parenting style backfired with the

861
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: two youngest. Kids the only way you can get in

862
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: trouble in this house that if we find out you

863
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: did something and you didn't tell the, truth it was a.

864
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: Mistake it was terrible because they do whatever they want

865
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: and then they come tell you it's. Awful don't try.

866
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: It you want your kids to, lie, definitely you. Don't

867
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: don't do, don't don't want to know stuff your kids

868
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: are thinking of. Doing. Bun you got, kids you got,

869
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: grandkids and a lot of, times you, know the thing,

870
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: is if you're not, Careful, bun you kind of raise

871
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: your kids kind of the way you was, raised because

872
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: that's what you. Know you, know you see the way

873
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: you might yell and the least little thing might sit you.

874
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: Off but you, gotta you, know especially if you know

875
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: you got you gotta try to break that. Cycle he

876
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: said that if he tell us the, truth you won't

877
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: get in. Trouble bull.

878
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: JYE i. DON'T i don't know how they kept that, up.

879
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: To be, honest because, yeah your parents will say, that

880
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: but you when you really started telling what you really.

881
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Do we don't have some problems in, this oh, yeah you.

882
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Know AND i don't understand this idea of being raised

883
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: a certain, way constantly telling people that the way you

884
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: was raised made you how you, were and then you

885
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: refuse to insteal any of that into your. CHILDREN i

886
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: don't understand these people, that for, example the coaches that

887
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: WHEN i was in, school the coaches was built a certain. Way,

888
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: absolutely coaches were built a certain. Way and the players

889
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: they didn't like, running they ain't like the, drills they

890
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: ain't like none of that. Stuff and those are the coaches,

891
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: now you know What i'm. Saying so we're getting a

892
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: lesser version of what we. HAD i don't understand why

893
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: people whose life trajectory were determined based on the fact

894
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: of the discipline that was asserting into their life and

895
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: to deny their children that same discipline were the only.

896
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Generations we're the only generate that they sacrifice quality their,

897
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: life aren't.

898
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: You we won't.

899
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Joke we want our kids In, george and we won't.

900
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Jokes we want our kids and nice, folks and we

901
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: want nice. Vokes my man didn't EVEN i remember that

902
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: man ain't used, lotion Bro, like his life was not

903
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: about modern convenience for.

904
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Him it was about convenience for the.

905
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: Family.

906
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Correct but when you don't have to struggle like, that it's.

907
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Different the house my kids grew in is different from

908
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: the house that my grandkids, visit, Right, like we had

909
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: to work up to this. House but they were born

910
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: into this, house, correct you know What i'm. Saying so

911
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: they just think that's how it's supposed to. Go somebody

912
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: Like Will smithing THAT i know for a, Fact will

913
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: smith came up, Harder. PHILLY i know for a Fact

914
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Jada pinkett came up, harder. Right AND i know they

915
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: are strong willed as they are because of the discipline

916
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: that was, instilled because they could have very easily been

917
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: taken way by the community that they lived. In we

918
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: understand those things that still exists in rich neighborhoods, too

919
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: because it's bad rich kids, too.

920
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: You know What i'm.

921
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: Saying those kids tend to get away with more because

922
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: the parents can get him out of the most. Shit

923
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: so the idea of letting your children live a free

924
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: life as ever they tell you the. Truth this, SHIP

925
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: i still can't even to my, MAMA i, DID i

926
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: might still get popped up side by. Here and there's

927
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: things that my mama told me she knew THAT i

928
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: didn't even know she. KNEW i did you just take

929
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: to your, grave. BUN i JUST i just. DON'T i

930
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: have a. NEPHEW i won't get too deep into my

931
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: have a. Nephew and his daddy was a certain way

932
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: when he was. Young his daddy was a very very

933
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: well known person in the, city and his mama tried

934
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: tried everything to not let him know who his. Daddy

935
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: his daddy really really got that. Man once that boy

936
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: found that, out that you he was old enough to

937
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: deal with the reality it is trouble went out there

938
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: trying to be like, that trying to live up to

939
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: a life that was never meant for, him that he

940
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: was never a part. Of to never, say just to

941
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: see if it was in it. Me he end up

942
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: in the, Penitatia he end up in, jail and all this.

943
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: Stuff now, retrospect you realize you chase not to sudden Should,

944
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: yeah that's not. True that was his life that's not,

945
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: yours right, Right but you know, what, bun that's how

946
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: you have to. Be AND i told my, KIDS i

947
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: don't you. KNOW i live my.

948
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: LIFE i say playing in THE nfl was my, dream

949
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: that's not.

950
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Yours you live your, dream, Yes so when you try,

951
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: to when you start trying to live somebody else's, dream

952
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: that's where you're running the. PROBLEMS i didn't push you

953
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: back to well, MAN i got a, Son, bro you

954
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna play, football you ain't gonna play, Basketball you're

955
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: not gonna DO, X y AND.

956
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: Z but that's not his. Dream that was.

957
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: MINE i want you to be whatever you choose to.

958
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: BE i just want you to be the best you

959
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: can at. It i'd rather you be a good you

960
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: than a bad. Need absolutely there it. Is that's. IT

961
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: i would much rather you be the best for you

962
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: than a bad version of. Me smith recently dropped an,

963
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: album his first album in twenty. Years his new song

964
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: got Killed. Online but why do you think we'll refocused on?

965
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Music because he's the first guy that With people don't

966
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: realize some, dude But will was the first artist to

967
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: win A Rap. Grammy absolutely, Now will's always been ahead

968
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: of the. CURVE i think this is a new way

969
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: of him re engaging with the. Public you, Know Will

970
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: will jumped on social media with a. Splash, yeah because

971
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: no one that had ever been that famous in that,

972
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: world that ever opened up their life like, that right,

973
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: Right and it started with His instagram. Page will was

974
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: going all over the world all this crazy shit On,

975
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: instagram and we were drawn to. It at the same

976
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: Time Red Table, talk we get to, look you, know

977
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: pull the curtains back on The wizard to see this

978
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: very to see these people have this very vulnerable. Conversation

979
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. SAYING i think we'll JUST i

980
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: think this is a lot easier for him to do right.

981
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: NOW i don't think movies is a big thing for

982
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: him right. NOW i think this is just a different

983
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: way for him to engage with. People AND i can

984
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: understand that because you see a lot of other actors

985
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that stuff, now trying to go

986
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: Out Tom, cruise going at you, know all the movie

987
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: theaters and hanging out with the people and stuff like.

988
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: That you, Know BUT i think With, will you can't

989
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: you can't chase the drag Like will has all the

990
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: resources that you need to release an album to have impact.

991
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: Internationally but, again you got.

992
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: To read the.

993
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: Room just because you can do some things don't mean you.

994
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: Should just because you can go, SOMEWHERE i don't mean

995
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 1: you need to be, there, Right and But Will smith

996
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: can do, this and this don't really change. Nothing nobody's

997
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: gonna stop seeing the movie because Of Will smith did

998
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: an album that they didn't care. For, Correct nobody's gonna

999
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely and we don't expect everybody to be great at,

1000
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: everything ain't they?

1001
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: DO i KNOW i.

1002
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't take everybody to be great at everything they.

1003
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: DO i expect you to be good at what you

1004
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: don't to be good, at because BECAUSE i might Like

1005
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Will smith the movie, star but not Like Will smith the.

1006
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: ACTOR i mean some people like the. Rapper some people

1007
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: may not even know who it. Is, Right let's let's

1008
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: you can look at it in two. Ways, right you

1009
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: can look at it the hip, hop the hip hop

1010
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: fans who may not be all the way with him

1011
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: in the movies because some of his movies might be.

1012
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: Different and then you may have some movie fans that

1013
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: may not be all the way in on the. Music

1014
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: LIKE i, SAID i got people that come and eat The.

1015
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: Burger they don't even know Who bunna, be the rapper

1016
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: His so you may have a lot Of Will smith,

1017
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: fans particularly in the nationally who some of them may not,

1018
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: know although he's so tied in with The Fresh prince

1019
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: and THE tv, showing everybody knows that song right.

1020
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: Right BUT i don't think THERE'S i don't think there's

1021
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 2: a high level of.

1022
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: EXPECTATION i don't think anybody expects more out of his

1023
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: record than he. Does you know, Much and it could

1024
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: be this could be marketed, right it couldn't be just

1025
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: a way too because if you, notice everything he's doing is,

1026
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: internationally like the, videos the concerts and, performances all the street,

1027
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: shit everything he's doing to engage with people is. Internationally

1028
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Because i'm almost certain he's a bigger star internationally than

1029
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: he is. Here so this is just probably we Love Will.

1030
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Smith we grew up With Will, Smith we've been on

1031
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: him for. Years we don't go See Will, SMITH i

1032
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: think because he's not doing a multitude of action movies

1033
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: and shit right now like he normally. Do this just

1034
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: a way of keep keeping itself on people's minds like

1035
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: home make albums. NOW i hope don't make an album

1036
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: to make to make to make money off of. Music

1037
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: hope uses it to keep his public profile at a

1038
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: high level to perpetuate other income revenue streams that he

1039
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: got coming. In how much you think is from the

1040
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: blowback because of what happened with him And Chris? Rock

1041
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: do you think he's still suffering from, that. BUN i

1042
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't say, suffering, RIGHT i THINK i think the people

1043
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: that don't like him for that don't like him for.

1044
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: That but there's the people that are, famous Like Will.

1045
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: Smith will all always have not just, fans they don't

1046
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: have psycho, fans, Right so there's always going to be

1047
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: a contingency of people that Want Will smith's, entertainment, Right

1048
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna want, that there's no way around. It he's

1049
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: a bigger force in that space Than Chris. Rock and

1050
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: it's not like they get Less Chris rock because of what.

1051
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: Happened they get pretty much the same amount Of Chris.

1052
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Rock SO i don't. THINK i don't think it's pushed

1053
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: back on that. Professionally now personally he may be going

1054
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: through something where he feels like he's got to reinvigorate the,

1055
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: image go out there and make himself likable and lovable

1056
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: again to. People that could be happening because it can't

1057
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: be for, money, right it can't be making his music for.

1058
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: Money so it's got to be a way that he

1059
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: thinks he can better rebuild the relationship with people that

1060
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: may be looking at him a certain. BOY i don't

1061
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: think it's, necessary but he may think it's necessary, because

1062
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: like we talked About, lebron he's one of those people

1063
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: that like to be like that's for goddamn. Sure that's

1064
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: the big thing About Will. Smith he always come with

1065
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: that big. Smile he's very, engaging very, entertaining very, likable very,

1066
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: approaching very. Personable those kinds of people don't like it

1067
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: when they're. Not they're. Not, YEAH i love in the public.

1068
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: Shit so it could just be for him because the

1069
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: career don't need. It but maybe internationally it might be

1070
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: some shit he got to do because maybe that translated

1071
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: different over that when he did. That Mariah carey still

1072
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in birthdays or the passage of. TIME i

1073
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: just don't believe in. TIME i don't have a. Birthday anniversaries,

1074
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: yes but birthday.

1075
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: No you gotta Love, Mariah you gotta Love mariah.

1076
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Care the more the OLDER i get and the more

1077
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: we sarn start to know About mariah care because she

1078
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: was very private for a long. Time, yes she was

1079
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: very very private about a lot of things for for

1080
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: a long. TIME i don't think we realize And i'm

1081
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, THIS i don't think you realize how Black

1082
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: Mariah carey. IS i THINK I i don't think we

1083
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: realize that's a real, sister right compared to what the

1084
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: public perception might. Be AND i heard she's a fool,

1085
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Too like she's a very, funny, like very very down

1086
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: to earth. Person this is part for the. COURSE i

1087
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: remember all the shit with J, lo LIKE i don't

1088
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: know this person and all That Maria carrey is a whole,

1089
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: fool like real and for her to want to marry

1090
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: and many kids and do all of these things With

1091
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: Nick cannon really tells, me like you a fool like.

1092
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: YOU i don't mean, CRAZY i mean like, you like

1093
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: you got a real personality like You you've subject to

1094
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: say from wild. Shit that's who Where riah. Carry that's

1095
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: Why Mariah carey don't do a lot in public because

1096
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: she knows she's prone it Sh, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i love

1097
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: it because she bit. Consistent she is who she. Is

1098
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: she don't do shit for Cap she don't do shit

1099
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: for the. Cameras she only come out when she's. Comfortable

1100
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: this whole thing With Anderson pack is very interesting BECAUSE

1101
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: i love this new. Song she got a new single

1102
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: that's written and produced By Anderson, pack who's an amazing.

1103
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Artist and they're also saying that they're a couple now,

1104
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: too you know What i'm. Saying so those things are

1105
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: always good for. Music when, artists you, know get in

1106
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody they can create, together that's always

1107
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: a good and fun.

1108
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: Thing and she looked. Happy, yes she looks happy as.

1109
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Hell she's always had this very awkward energy in public

1110
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing BECAUSE i feel like she knows she

1111
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: can't be herself. Correct the image has been presented a

1112
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: certain way as to How Mariah carey moved and don't he.

1113
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: Wrong she's just, classic she presents. Herself she's all of.

1114
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: That but soon as that soon as the camera cut,

1115
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: off you could tell she who, shit, girl what's? Up?

1116
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Like, yes you know What i'm, saying ready to. Release

1117
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: So i'm happy For.

1118
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: Mariah Then mariah and not celebrating, birthday that's that's Very

1119
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: mariah of Her. Bun let me know what you. Think

1120
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: jadakiss is still upset about not making the top five

1121
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: On Complex top Fifty New york. Lists if we were

1122
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: to do a top Fifty houston, List, bun If bun

1123
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna be in the top, ten there's an argument to,

1124
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: that And i'm gonna tell you, why because Technically i'm

1125
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: From Port. Arthur that's the way That I'm i've been

1126
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: put in this. Lexicon uh ugk typically is taken out

1127
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: of that conversation For houston taking Now. Texas oh, no

1128
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have hell try to be better than that's. Text,

1129
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: okay so we're gonna since It's New, york we're gonna make.

1130
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: It we're gonna make It. Texas, then, no you can't

1131
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: even have that. Conversation you can't even have that. Conversation

1132
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: WHAT i, Mean i'm Not i'm Not i'm not trying

1133
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: to toot my own. Horn but there's a certain style

1134
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: of rapping that didn't even really exist In houston BEFORE

1135
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: i started. RAPPING a certain way like being a lyricist

1136
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily a, requirement you know What i'm. Saying it

1137
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily something you had to do to be successful

1138
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: here because it wasn't a demand. Primary BUT i never

1139
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: felt LIKE i felt LIKE i was already way past

1140
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: my competition, Here SO i was compete with, everybody you

1141
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying, so, yeah there's no way you.

1142
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: Could the only way you take me out of it

1143
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: is that it's like, now but we don't mean, You

1144
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: we don't mean like you in face or. Whatever but

1145
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: if we talking about everybody top five From, texas, MAN

1146
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: i gotta wash my mouth on, this really try to

1147
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: be cool about. IT i honestly don't think there's five

1148
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: people From houston that can rap better than. Me that's

1149
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: just from the state Of texas that's better than. ME

1150
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: i give A dlc and Star. FACE i give A

1151
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: dlc And Scarf. Ace that's. It that's. It maybe three,

1152
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: two maybe recipes three. Two but yeah they Got, Yeah

1153
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: i'm looking at this. List yeah they got they they

1154
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: do got they Got. Jada damn they Got jada at.

1155
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: Sixteen.

1156
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no they're wrong for. That they very wrong for.

1157
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: That and, LOOK i understand because you have to understand

1158
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: that some of the greatest rappers of all time came

1159
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: From New. York Absolutely that's What i'm. Saying so IT'S

1160
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: i understand why they would want to honor other people

1161
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: before they Honored Jada. Kiss you know What i'm. SAYING

1162
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: i get, That and but all of shit is, relative

1163
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: right because in the early, days wasn't nobody hunted IN,

1164
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: lll didn want nobody hand Than Rock kim Then Carroll,

1165
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: reds you, know like these things are. Subjected, yeah you

1166
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying but if somebody that lives in

1167
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: the modern time In New York city is Raising New

1168
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: york rappers and they don't Put Jady kins into his top, ten,

1169
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: right for, SURE i can understand people wanting to argue

1170
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: about whether or not these top five if you look

1171
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: at the whole. Scheme but you gotta, again you gotta

1172
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: put the Rock kims in The Big Daddy, kanes and

1173
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: you got you. Crazy you know the man they Got

1174
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: Big Daddy cane for far out man that people don't

1175
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: realize how Good Big Daddy cane.

1176
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: Was Big Daddy cane was is still like.

1177
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: That, look, man we are we sit there all The,

1178
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: jeordan we Argue jordan And lebron all over. Again that

1179
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: that that's all this. Is different times speak to, different different.

1180
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: Sensitivities you're, right you know What i'm, saying and that's

1181
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: how people draw these. LISTS i can understand him being,

1182
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: upset but at the same, time it's all, subjective you

1183
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: know What i'm.

1184
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: Saying and when you meet the people that typically make these,

1185
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: lists they aren't.

1186
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: Legit ain't know a The they not seeped enough in

1187
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: the culture that really have these conversations with much less

1188
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: give any validity then that. SHIP i don't get these

1189
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: people no, way just because they say they listen to

1190
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of music, shit a bunch OF r AND b.

1191
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: TOO i.

1192
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: CAN'T i ain't finishing the act LIKE i can sing

1193
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: or judge people who can't. SING i can't even home.

1194
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: Shit all, Right, bud we better close it out on.

1195
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: This we got our final segment of the. Day it's

1196
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: time FOR q AND. A, okay here we, GO q

1197
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: AND a. Baby Uh Joe Bombo's appalon's, Playbook, Bun this

1198
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: was for, You. Bun B when are we going to

1199
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: get A KENDRICK ugk? Collapse that's a good. Question i've

1200
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: not been able to really have a relationship With. Kendrick

1201
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: that's for somebody THAT i literally have not bumped. Into

1202
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: of all the people in hip, Hop i've never bumped into.

1203
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: Him but that's not surprising Because kindred don't really socialize

1204
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: like that outside of you, know his homeboys IN la

1205
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: and people that he records. With it's not somebody that

1206
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: you'll see At Rolling loud or Or coachella or something like,

1207
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: that or at somebody's release party or you, know A

1208
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: New jordan release or something like. That you just don't

1209
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: socialize like, that you know What i'm. Saying so there's

1210
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: no relationship to even extending the. AWFUL i wouldn't even

1211
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: know how to got the email an amazing, RAPPER i love.

1212
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: IT i always want to rap with the best, people

1213
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: you know What i'm, Saying so anybody that's considered one

1214
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: of the best that the studio is always. Open hugs

1215
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: nine seven three, Said, bun do you think they'll bring

1216
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: the comments back? Then, well they are. Now they are

1217
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: looking to bring a W nba team back To. HOUSTON

1218
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: i know they're thinking of, that BUT i don't know

1219
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: if they would call that team the. Comments i'm not

1220
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: sure who owns that name in that. Way i'm not

1221
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: sure The rockets ownership if that's something that transfers from

1222
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: owner to owner or how that. Works BUT i, MEAN

1223
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: i think it would be great for the. CITY i

1224
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: think the city would come all the way. Out but

1225
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: you got to, understand if you decide to call a

1226
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: W nba team the, comments you got to have the

1227
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: best of the best on that, team cause y'all have

1228
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: arguably the best lords ever n W nba. Bass, yeah

1229
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: you Had, coop you Had Sheryl, swoops you Had Tina. Thompson,

1230
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: oh y'all would. Loaded that's why you won four. Straight

1231
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: that's was the hometown Hero. God, yes the recipes we now,

1232
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: had we had that. Squad it's never been as dominated

1233
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: team as that team. Was four p, right yep four.

1234
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: The first four.

1235
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: Pray Farz New jersey, said let's bring In Mike jones

1236
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: From houston for His houston. Opinion anyone got his? Number

1237
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: mike is going to come on in the very near

1238
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: future and guess what come back and we'll ask.

1239
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: Him and his number ain't. Changed he still got that.

1240
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: Number Kipper Norwood junior, SAID unc and bun be my,

1241
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: question how Many Super bowls Would Peyton manning have if

1242
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: he was quarterback for The patriots And Tom brady was

1243
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback for The. Coats that's a good question because

1244
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: you've got to think of the drive That tim came in. With.

1245
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: Correct there's a big difference between getting drafted here at

1246
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: the top and getting drafted at the.

1247
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: Bottom both of those put a fire under, you but

1248
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: for different.

1249
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Reasons. Correct and, ALSO i think Initially peyton might have

1250
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: had a little bit more knowledge of the game and

1251
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: naturally fell into that leadership, quality WHEREAS i, don't you,

1252
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Know tom was the leader of the locker, room but

1253
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: never the leader of the. Team peyton had power in

1254
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: his early. Years tom gradually gained that power and knew

1255
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: how to utilize it a little bit. Different and then

1256
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: he Had belichick, too, right and that's a whole different

1257
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: type of, distance that's a whole different. Animal But peyton

1258
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: never had a coach like that that had been kind

1259
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: of control Because peyton really had to. Control peyton ran,

1260
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: Practice crayton ran the two, Minutes payton ran, everything and so.

1261
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: Different was Never brady never had you, know LIKE i,

1262
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: Know i'm, sharing and different responsibilities create different. People, absolutely

1263
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: there's a big difference of what's expected from the big

1264
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: brother than the little.

1265
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: Brother. Correct you know What i'm Saying, YEP i absolutely

1266
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: know what you're.

1267
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Saying. BULL i was fun, There. BROT i enjoyed. It

1268
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: look you called me up. Anytime i'll be the co

1269
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: host permanentator over. Here, guys thank you for joining us

1270
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: for another episode Of nightcap with me your favorite on

1271
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: shouting sharp and filling in FOR O joe who's having

1272
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: fun over there In. Paris bun Beat. Bun we can't

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