1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hey, we've got North Side Territory host and the athletics 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mooney joining us right now to talk about the 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs trailing to nothing. Well, that's what Philly fans do. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Will Cubs fans do that? If they're in trouble in 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: this Game three against the Brewers? How do they fix this? Patrick? 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: I want to start with something like more glass half full, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Like how do the Cubs shock the world and come back? 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: I have a hard time coming on this show and 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: presenting like a credible path forward, Like, yeah, it's professional sports, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: it's unscripted. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: Crazy things happen. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: But sid If Sharman and I were talking about this 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: on North Side Territory, Like, you go back to the 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen World Series, the Cubs are down three to one. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: You got John Lester pitching Game five with a Roldis 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Chapman waiting to do, you know, superhuman things out of 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: the bullpen. 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Then you have a rating it's not. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Young Award winner and Jake Arieta lined up for Game six, 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: and then the Major League eer A leader that year, 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: Kyle Hendricks awaiting Game seven, and the Cubs pitching at 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: this point feels almost totally depleted. You saw it in 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: Matthew Boyd going on three days rest, showed it in 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Minaga clearly is off his game, giving. 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Up way too many home runs. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: Kate Horton is supposed to throw off a mound today 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: at Wrigley Field. They'll see if they can try and 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: push him, if they somehow find a way to advance. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: Brewers just totally outplayed the Cubs in every phase of 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: the game in Milwaukee. 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's okay. They don't need to pitch, they 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: just need to score. 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Too. Yeah, right, Can they out hit? 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: Can they out hit this? Milwaukee's as as I think 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: somebody said on one show this week, hitting Milwaukee lineup 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: that led the league and run scored. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just watching those games like where 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: like the Brewers just have the best players on the field, 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: the most dynamic pitchers on the mouth. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: And that's what the Brewers do, right. They make teams look. 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Bad, whether it's just their style of play, they're swinging 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: miss stuff. I think even you see it in you know, 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: players coming from other organizations like Andrew Vaughan or Quinn Priester, 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden something clicks and they're awesome. 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: I think you have fans and other small markets being like, well, 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: if the Brewers can do that, why can't. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: Our team do that? 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: And even in Chicago, I think there is some frustration 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: of like the payroll the Cubs have, it should be higher, 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: but it's still way more in the in the Brewers, 53 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: and there still is this huge gap. And then you 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: have obviously Craig Counsel leaving Milwaukee and the Brewers get better. 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: You have players like that. 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: And the Bruises have this amazing ability to sort of 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: like get rid of players at the right time and 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: kind of let someone else deal with the huge frage 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: and contract with the player to clients. 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Just just all of that. 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: Gives it makes it hard for me to imagine the 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: scenario in which the Cups advance. 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Here. 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 5: I want to talk about Jemison tie On. I mean, 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: I feel like he's been pretty good. I feel like 66 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: as the three guy or whatever you want to call him, 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: I feel like this is the guy right now that 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: can kind of kickstart this Cub's team to get gone. 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: Talk a little about him and how how good he's 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: been and how they're going to lean on him here 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: a little bit as they're moving forward. 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: No, you're right, Sad, I guess I could have started there. 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: Like Jamison is a really good starting point. He's outside 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: of Kate Horton was probably their best pitcher towards the 75 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: end of the season there as you guys know, just 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: a terrific teammate, leader by example, a very rational person. Teammates, 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: you know, just talk about the example. He sets it 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: in the room. So yeah, you start there. The bullpen, obviously, 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: with all these days off during the series, should be 80 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: pretty well rested, maybe getting back to Wrigley Field, sparks something, 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: and you know, you've seen these flashes of the club's offense. 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: That's what made these two games even harder to kind 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: of comprehend of, Like they landed the first punch in 84 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: the first inning, whether it's Michael Bush's lead off home 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: run or Saeya Suzuki's huge swing. I think it was 86 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: maybe sixteen pitches into Game two. But other than that, 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: it's just been really quiet on the offensive end, and 88 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: it's not really an anomaly, like this is an awesome 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: offense in the first half, and for a variety of reasons, 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: it just sort of faded in the second half, and 91 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: now against a higher level of pitching, when the stakes are. 92 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: Even higher, the offense just hasn't come through. 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: How did the Cubs and the Cubs fans and maybe 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: even the people on the bench feel about the pitcher 95 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: ploy that the Brewers pulled last night with Quinn Priester 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: and Aaron Ashby going out there and Priester never actually pitching. 97 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Ao Suzuki liked the matchup. I guess I don't like. 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: That went to me seemed a little bit overthinking it 99 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: on the Brewer's end. Obviously it worked out and the 100 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: Cubs kind of let them off the hook there. But 101 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: it's been kind of funny covering the playoffs here where 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: it seems like the managers from one night to the 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: next or one game to the next go from like genius, 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: idiot genius, like if it works, it was a great call, 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: and if it doesn't, it was a dumb move. 106 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: Tucker, Kyle Tucker, what does what does this version of 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker look like somebody that got rushed back after 108 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: an injury? Does it look like the struggling Kyle Tucker 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: that was pre injury and is their hope that he 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: can be the aircraft carrier that they brought him in 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 4: to be, and he was for two thirds three quarters 112 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 4: of the season. 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, I mean, he was that guy. It 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: is hard to see the Cubs. 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: Making the playoffs without him, or maybe they squeak in, 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: but just all the momentum that was created in the 117 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: first half really was a huge product of his production, 118 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: his presence, his sense of calm, the example he set 119 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: in the batter's box. 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Is all around play. 121 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: And we just have not seen that here really for 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: a couple months now in Part two due to whatever 123 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: happened with his hand, whether it was a subconscious thing 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: or not of just kind of messing with his mechanics 125 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: or just something was slightly off. And then with a 126 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: kaff here he's been a dh I don't think there's 127 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: any expectation that he's going to play the field this series. 128 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: Stay Suzuki has been more than passable in right field, 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: but obviously that kind of limits you. And I think 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: part of the appeal of Kyle Tucker was that base running, 131 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: that speed, just the all around contributions he could make 132 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: to the game. 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: And right now he is limited. 134 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: And you saw in the San Diego series a Cubs 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: thought he was getting that timing back and was making 136 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: good decisions and was kind of just seeing the ball 137 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: hitting line drives again. That impact, though, just hasn't been 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: here against Milwaukee. And obviously the Brewers have a terrific 139 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: pitching staff, a very good game planning system, but without 140 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: Tucker and when picrow Armstrong struggling, it's just it's just 141 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: a thin lineup. 142 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Hey, shout out to Fox one. 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Anyway, stream all your 161 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: Fox favorites together in one place at the Fox one app. 162 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: Is there a giveaway or something at Wrigley Field tomorrow, 163 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: because at the end of the Brewers game it wasn't 164 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: even over. There was a ton of Cubs fans taking 165 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: the quick trip across the bridge. Is there something that 166 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: they're rushing too? And does it feel like for Cubs 167 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: fans that they've been the bigger brother the older brother, 168 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: and little brother is now gotten taller than them. Does 169 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: it feel like there's no coming back from this or 170 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: does it feel like, in a more of a macro sense, 171 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 4: not just this series, but no coming back from it 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: and there needs to be wholesale changes in Chicago. 173 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: I would guess that Cubs fans are still probably gonna 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: be skeptical of the Brewers no matter what. Like if 175 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: the Brewers get rocked against the Dodgers in the NLCS, 176 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you know, whatever they played a 177 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: week longer but there's no doubt that the Brewers, under 178 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 3: Council's leadership, and you were there, Eric hastened the demise 179 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: of the post twenty sixteen Cubs. They were irritating, they 180 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: were frustrating. I think Theopsky and Jed Hoyer constantly looked 181 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: at their roster, Milwaukee's roster and was like, why is 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: Craig Counsel ringing more out of their group than we 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: are out of ours? And you know, it hasn't been 184 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: just one person or one player. They've been relentless. And 185 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: I asked Jed Hoyr this before the playoffs started towards 186 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: end of the season, of like, it does this sort 187 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: of take you back to your Al East days when 188 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: you're with the Red Sox and the Rays were coming up. 189 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: You just kind of have to assume that they're going 190 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: to win ninety games a year. And I think that's 191 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: kind of the parallel here for the Cubs. And I think, 192 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, widespread changes, I don't, I don't think so. 193 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: I mean that first half earned Jed Hoyer contracts extension 194 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: and sort of solidified the future of this front office. 195 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: Craig Council isn't going anywhere, and I think mostly you 196 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: look at this Cub's team and I think they've sort 197 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: of gotten what they deserve. Do They haven't really overachieved 198 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: to a great extent, They certainly haven't underachieved. I think 199 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: this is a team built to like make the playoffs 200 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: and be back in the mix next year. And then 201 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: that's the broader questions are kind of what you're getting 202 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: at is, you know, sort of like payroll and the 203 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: willingness to kind of go all in for one season. 204 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: And obviously this wasn't it. You trade for Kyle Tucker, 205 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: but you don't sign Alex Bregman. You upgrade the team 206 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, but you don't make that one 207 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: huge splashy move. And you know they'll whenever this season ends, 208 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: they'll do their kind of deep dive. But I don't 209 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: expect them to look at this body of work and 210 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: be like, we have to make huge changes or totally 211 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: overhaul our philosophy right or wrong? 212 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: Justin steel still in this rotation. How much does it change? 213 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: I know there's what ifs and whatever's, And that's to 214 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: me why they didn't go in on a Max Free. 215 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: They didn't go in on a Corbyn Burns because they 216 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: had Justin Steele, they didn't know they had Kate Horton. 217 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: But if Justin Steele is here for this series, does 218 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: he make enough of an impact that it could have 219 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: changed this series? 220 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, the Steel injury was so. 221 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: Long ago that I think the Cubs moved on pretty quickly. 222 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: I think the Horton coming up when Shoda got hurt 223 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: was huge. But like, clearly the Cubs are an organization 224 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: that's obsessed with pitch depth and they are constantly acquiring it. Uh, 225 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: but even that has its limits. And like they went 226 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: all out to beat the Padres. They pitched, not flawlessly, 227 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: but they pitched at an extremely high level. 228 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: I think that took something. 229 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: Out of them, and I realized that expectations are lower 230 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 3: for starting pitchers now in the playoffs. 231 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: But like, it's just not sustainable. 232 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: If you're getting like, you know, two and two thirds innings, 233 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: you know, every playoff game, that's just not going to work, 234 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: especially when you're facing a team that was coming off 235 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: of buy and has Freddy Peralta pitching game one and 236 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: lined up if necessary deeper in the series. 237 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Patrick, if they are able to truck through and 238 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: pull off a win or two here, how do you 239 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: think the team sets up for these next couple games 240 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: right after Game three with ty On if they're able 241 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: to pull that off and be priest who never loses. 242 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: But if they're able to beat him, then what does 243 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: it look like going forward? Because I think we can 244 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: all agree at this point the risk to go with 245 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: Matt Boyd on the short rest was not the right move. 246 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Quinn Priester grew up a Cups fan. 247 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: I think he went to some of those twenty sixteen 248 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: World Series games, so it'll be fun to see him 249 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: pitch in that environment. I think it comes down to here, 250 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: like your best players have to be your best players, 251 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: and you've seen it with the Brewers. I mean, I mean, 252 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: I need to get Wilson Contreras's breakdown of Williams's home 253 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: run celebration last night, because that was awesome. I've been 254 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: to games that American Family Field maybe it's called Miller 255 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: Park back then, but where like Wilson would blow kisses 256 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: to the crowd and stuff. 257 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Like that awesome. 258 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: So, like, I don't know if if Kyle Tucker hits 259 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: a three run home run, if Pekrow Armstrong hits a 260 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: three run home run, like it's it's not totally out 261 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: of the question. 262 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: The Cubs have not. I think their longest losing streak. 263 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: Was three games and then they clinched a playoff spot 264 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: and went on like a five game losing streak. So 265 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 3: this team has been able to like manage series and 266 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: minimize those down periods. 267 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: I just think like. 268 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: This Brewers team is at another level, and like if 269 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: they were wearing Yankees or Dodgers uniforms, like we'd be 270 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: talking would have been talking about them in a totally 271 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: different context for most of this year. 272 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: Last one, here is the specific pitching setup for Games 273 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: four and five, just bullpenning chaos. 274 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's kind of been like that since 275 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: first pitch of Game one of this NLDS. 276 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: I think you kind of see see where they're at. 277 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: Like the comes to their credit have been like so 278 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: good at this It's like what Eric was saying earlier 279 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: of all right, justin steel all star pitcher goes down 280 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: in April, they just keep progressing. Showa goes down, Kate 281 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Horton comes up like they had. Colin Ray was awesome 282 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: for them on balance this year, Javer Sad gets hurt 283 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: like maybe the first day of spring training or even 284 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: before camp officially opens, and you know, they don't really 285 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: miss him, but when it's so condensed like this, when 286 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: every pitch matters, it just feels like they're pitching plans 287 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: are sort. 288 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: Of shredded here. 289 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: I think it's just try and win Wednesday and then 290 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: worry about Thursday immediately after game three, assuming you have 291 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: another tomorrow. 292 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, just thinking even if they're able to slay 293 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the Brewers, and for example, they the Dodgers and they're like, 294 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: we're not really sure with half of our starters for 295 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: this seven game series, and the Dodgers are like glass now, Snell, 296 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm as honey, Okay, so yeah, I mean I get it. 297 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: They're they're missing two guys who are top end starters 298 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: right now. But that's that's part of the song and 299 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: dance here, and while they'll continue to build up pitching depth, well, 300 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Patrick. You did your best to 301 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: bring a little positivity to the vibes here. But it 302 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: will be fun. It'll be a fun, raucous Game three 303 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: at Brickley caotalking you of course, we'll listen to all 304 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: that you're bringing at the table on North Side Territory too, 305 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: but have fun out there. 306 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: Thanks, guys appreciate it.