WEBVTT - The Big Ticket with Kevin Garnett 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.480 From the King of sports Books comes the Key sports 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:18.880 podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Jerry 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:32.800 Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome to Unleashed, where Today 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:38.200 Thursday is the ever Sports Equinox, which means all four 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.199 of the major sports leagues have games today. There's so 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.720 much to bet, so little time. Jerry, are you a 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.600 bit overwhelmed with the Sports Equinox? You know, I am. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.840 Typically I'm well prepared for this, but I think it's because, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.200 like usually, the Giants are almost out of it already, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.400 and you know, I'm not really as excited about them. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.760 I'm excited about the Knicks, but no, I'm um, there's 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.680 too much going on. The Yankees are in the plant. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.440 It's catching me off guard. I'm not fully prepared. But 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.679 oh what a wonderful time to be alive. Oh what 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.760 a wonderful time of year. And the NBA obviously started 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.119 on Tuesday night, and we've got a pretty cool guy 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.120 to break it down today, Kevin Garnett. The big ticket 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.200 is here and Jerry, last week I tea s the 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.959 end of the show with that I knew the story 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.040 and the guy who named him the big tickets. Are 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.440 you ready to hear it? Are you going to give 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.759 that to the audience and me right now, because yes, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.920 I've been waiting for this. Yeah. So, my dad Kevin 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.360 Harlan to play by play announcer and he kind of 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.960 got his big break in the industry being the Timberwolves 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.319 play by play announcer when he was like twenty nine 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.920 something like that. He was super young and I'm sorry, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.680 and KG was a rookie and their names are both Kevin, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.600 and they were both young guys. Obviously KG much younger, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.080 and they kind of became quick friends and have a 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.000 lot of history together, and I'll kind of bring that 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.760 up when KG gets on here. But you know, the 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.200 Wolves were so bad, and my dad was young and 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.680 at all this energy and was kind of crazy. And 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.399 if you YouTube Kevin Harlm Timberwolves, you will hear the 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.560 funniest play by play calls. It's rich. But yeah, one 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.760 night he just names in the big ticket and it 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.520 has stuck ever since. And my dad laughs, He's like, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.880 I never thought in a million years that one would 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.440 catch on, Like it was just kind of pulled it 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.720 out one night. And what a great nickname though, right, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.400 it's a great nickname, and it really does suit him 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.799 because he played in the place where before he came 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:39.400 there in Minnesota, attendance was not record setting, but the minute, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.080 you know, he came on the scene, that arena was 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.679 filling up. It did feel like a big ticket. And 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.960 then when he goes on throughout his career, you know, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.640 all the playoff games with the Celtics and that style 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.239 and battles with the Lakers. Any game that Kevin Garnett 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.160 was involved in, it was in fact a big ticket, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.200 great nickname. I mean, I just love that. And yeah, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.400 my dad talks about when he was a teenager obviously 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.160 he went straight to the league, that the team brought 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.720 some of his friends, like on the charter, playing with 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.800 them on the buses, let him travel with them to 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.480 make the transition easier because he was a kid. And 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.120 even said one night that they brought McDonald's on the 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.200 plane after a game for him one night. You know, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.880 he's just he's a teenager. He just wanted to McDonald's. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.840 So totally unique situation. Obviously, there have been few guys 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.480 as successful to go right out of high school into 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.880 the NBA. And I'm curious now if he thinks that 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.320 should still be a thing. Now the world is so 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.560 different than when he was a rookie, and there are 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.960 so many different paths going pro and that's a few 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.080 skip college, which we've seen that now, So it's it's 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.400 a it's a totally different time in the NBA, and 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.160 I'm very curious what he thinks about this generation. Yeah, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.240 you know, I just remember too, come when he came 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.920 into the league being excited because you know, something I 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.240 never really thought about was high school players coming in, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.960 you know, and then obviously being a big New York 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.920 fan and the Knicks were good during this time period 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.720 when KG was a rookie coming in and stuff like that. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.320 But then when he got to play with Marbury, which 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.160 every Knicks fan in New York fan was gonna root 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.680 for Marbury no matter where he went. So that's kind 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.640 of one of the greatest like almost like unanswerable questions, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.560 like what would have happened if those two could have 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.200 really worked it out, because they were starting to get 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.320 that pick and roll going, you know, players now years 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.200 later after the facts say that that pick and roll 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.920 was starting to get scary. So but yeah, I love KG. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.760 Very excited to talk to him, and he's like a 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:38.080 great actor, nizing one of my favorite movies Uncut Gems, which, yeah, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.240 and he's great in the movies, So I want to 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.360 talk to him about some of that stuff too. No, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.600 I know, industry man. Now you guys are in the 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.159 same industry. You can pick his brain on that. But no, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.599 this is great. What were your takeaways though from Tuesday 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.359 night opening NBA? Look, it's it's so easy to overreact. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.279 It's a lot of fun to overreact because we have 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.640 nothing to react to other than you know, these everyone's 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:03.560 game one from it really is scary. If I'm a 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.520 Laker fan, I'm not jumping the gun yet. I know 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.000 their playoff odds are kind of decreasing and that's becoming 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.599 a popular bet. But it really Anthony Davis looked great. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.800 So if you're gonna focus on something positive, you gotta 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.760 focus on the fact that A d looks great, he 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.039 looks fit, He's got to stay healthy. So but I 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.240 do think it's a play in tight situation for them 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.880 and they got to just survive and get there. So 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.040 very worried. From a Lake fan, I'm a Warrior fan, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.520 it's like, just make it through the season. Healthy, and 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.000 you'll be fine. It's to me, it's gonna be like 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.600 a whole hum Warriors year. Make it through the year healthy, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.960 developed the younger guys further, and just get ready for 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.200 your run because they look great. Warriors look great. You're 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.919 so right, especially after the Draymond Pool punch and the 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.120 video leak and all the drama that we were talking 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.360 about just last week, and the team looks great. I I, 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.120 like everyone else was watching. Okay, Draymond and Pool are 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.480 going to be like, buddy, buddy, are they going to 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.479 try to make a point that all is well? And 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.039 I think that was underwhelming. We didn't get any confirmation 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.120 that all was well, and they played together fine an 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.840 eleven man rotation. I like this with the Warriors. Steve 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.960 Carr was mentioning that they're really deep this year and 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.240 he wants to go deep in the bag and he did, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.440 and then obviously Steph Curry thirty three points. He was fantastic. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.800 The Lakers, let's elaborate on that because I was following 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.000 the story of who's the starting lineup and one of 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.680 their preseason games, Westbrook came off the bench and then 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.240 he hurt his hamstring and he blamed it on coming 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.480 off the bench. He said, my whole career I started, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.159 I didn't even know what to do with my body 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.599 to how to stay warm. And he was pretty vocal 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.360 that he didn't like that experimental lineup change from new 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.880 coach Darvin Ham. Darvin Ham said he's not sure what 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:50.000 group he'll consistently start moving forward, so it's interesting. At 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.919 halftime of that game, Charles Barkley was very candid that 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.920 he thinks Russell needs to move, he needs a change 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.320 of sceneries, not happy Lakers don't need them. He's kind 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.560 of lost his mojo, his exuberance, and since they're not 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.599 a championship contender, you know, let's just move on. Let's 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.000 let's get him out of here. So I'm curious your 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.240 thoughts on that and how the Lakers are going to 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.160 probably ultimately blow this thing up, Like I would not 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.240 be surprised if they tried to trade a D by 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:22.560 trade deadline and get rid of Lebron obviously the summer. Yeah, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.760 it's so complicated because I do love Russell Westbrook the 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.600 way he's played the game. I think that that's always 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.800 what you want out of one of your best players. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.640 I would have even said years ago, someone would maybe 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.720 you would have a hard time transitioning to a different role, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.800 would be Russ because he's just played the same way 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.040 and he's been very one of the most successful players 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.120 doing it on a personal level. So they get him 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.720 the change, it's gonna be hard. It never quite fit. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.320 Even when that acquisition happened. I wondered, okay, because him 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.560 and Lebron sort of do the same things. They need 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.960 the ball to be effective, and I'm sorry, if you 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.680 have to give the ball to someone, gonna give it 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.679 to Lebron James to have eight percent of the time, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.360 So it's always a question mark. Yeah, maybe new scenery 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.080 helps him change with the role he might have to 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.320 be faced with. I do think, you know, his presence 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.680 on the young team could be good. I don't know, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.440 but he just wants to win, So I don't know 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.640 what You're gonna send them to the Detroit so he could, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.760 you know, what's gonna help usher in the young guys. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.440 I don't know if that works. But if I'm the Lakers, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.640 to me, I don't know. They know. I'm just a 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.920 fan talking here. There's only one out, and I really 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.480 do think it's to trade a d and it's probably 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.920 not this year, and you can't trade Lebron this year. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.439 But I mean, god, if I really was thinking about 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.920 this in context to even like the Russell Wilson trade, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.800 and we'll talk about that later if you want, But 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.520 if you are the New Orleans Pelicans, I cannot think 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.520 of a team that's been better position maybe since the 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.240 Celtics fleeced the Nets with like no offense. I don't 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.120 we're talking about KG, but you know they got all 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.280 the all Brooklyn's picks for you know, years and years, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.200 and they ended up turning into Tatum and Brown. You know, well, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.200 part of that was the Sixers deal. The Pelicans they 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.719 have the Lakers picks and like a swap, like they 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.320 are so set up people wanted David Griffin's job like 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.040 a year ago. I can't think of a team that's 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.440 better set up for the future than the Pelicans other 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.880 than that name that I think needs to change. It 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.199 just shows you the NBA is so exciting because year 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.800 to year can have a quick change, where I feel 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.400 like in football it takes a touch longer, you know. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.080 Here I say that, and now the Jets are like 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.880 actually doing well and I mean, there are clearly teams 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.720 who can have almost a one year turnaround. You could 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.839 argue Jets has been two years in the making, But 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.040 I don't know. I feel like the n b A 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.960 is give him next year. You only need a couple 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.760 of guys, and you only need a couple of stars. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.080 Well yeah, and with those with those one and two 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.200 picks coming in this year, you know, I'm not saying 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.720 that that's going to end up being the Laker pick, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.439 but if you're the Pelicans, you know you might be 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:59.440 one Anthony Davis injury away from that Laker pick lottery odds. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.040 Just being he's like, having a swing at the top 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.840 two picks would be insane. If you have Zion Ingram McCollum, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.160 you know, herb Jones and that young Core, it would 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.959 be insane. So gosh, the Pelican wasn't just can't think 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.800 of a situation working out better then the situation has 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.240 for the Pelicans. You mentioned the Celtics. No, we're gonna 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.040 talk about the Pelicans today. Sorry, Yeah, no, I'm glad 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:23.920 you brought him up because it's the start of the 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.080 season and we talked about parody so much this season 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.800 in the NFL, which is really fun, especially for people 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.200 who talk about it like we do in the NBA. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.080 From a betting angle, this is the most wide open 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.520 the odds have ever been. And Tuesday night didn't really 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.680 change anything. The Celtics and Warriors. They both win. They're 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.120 still the favorite side edge to the Celtics. That plus 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.280 five hundred when I checked this morning, plus six hundred 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.640 Warriors and the longest that's the longest odds for a 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.400 favorite in thirty five years, thirty five years. Jerry, like, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.680 the favorites are five to one, six to one. And 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.480 also it's the first time since two thousand nine that 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.040 preseason favorites it doesn't have Katie or Lebron on the roster. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.480 Like that blow your mind. A lot of things have 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.160 blown my mind this year. That tells me, though. One 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.920 thing with basketball is we might be getting a touch 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.800 of the parody the NFL has, like just a touch. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.880 I mean, NBA is always gonna be top heavy and 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.360 superstar driven for sure, but now that we're seeing the 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.280 I don't there's no more like super teams. But now 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.840 we're seeing players want to pair up to give themselves 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.280 the best chance. There's more of that going on. Yeah, 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.040 we're getting a little bit of parity, but it's elite parody. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.240 Every team now is going to have. If you're not 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.199 sort of in the tanking, you know, blow it up phase, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.840 you're gonna have like two great players. So it's great. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.760 I mean, there's so many that I don't know, if 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.040 you pay attention much to John Ewing's Twitter account, you 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.720 fire today that six or Celtics game, because I know 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.360 a lot of people were talking about, you know, this 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.920 might be the Sixers year, and Beid's gotten a lot 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.120 of m v P hype. He definitely did some pads 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.720 that some stat padding in that end of that game, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.960 which was already over. I don't know what you saw 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.960 from that game. I can tell you my takeaway is 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.120 and thin one game we know, but having fun with it. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.520 It's almost like that the Dooka situation as bad as 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.240 it was, Like it seems like the players are rising 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.320 though totally and not sort of being like free like 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.000 you know, Dylon Brown sticking up for Marcus Smart waving 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.560 a finger at and bead and and Marcus Smart not 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.560 carrying that flopping routine like he didn't go even further 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.320 with it, Like it just showed a lot of point 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.840 or maybe that's just a team we went to the 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:41.360 finals that they had such a great chance. But that's 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.040 what I got from. I mean, the Sixers are gonna 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.400 win a lot of games, but I think I think 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.520 there's a move that has to happen with the Sixers 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.240 to really be one of those finals teams. Well, this 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.000 was definitely a mismatch, right, I mean, the Celtics without 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.560 their center, who that's gonna be months Robert Williams the 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.160 third So now they're small, they're fast, that's the way 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.000 they're playing in they have to use that to their advantage, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.079 which they did on Tuesday night, and it did not 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.000 work out for the SEVENTI is especially defensively when you 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.520 look at like James Harden, he's worthless on defense. And 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.440 they outscored the seventy two in fast break points, so 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.720 that that kind of tells you the game, right And 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.760 then of course the stars Jalen Brown Jason Tatum combined 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.960 for seventy they each got thirty five points. That's that's wild. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.800 With those two star wing players, you can do a 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.240 lot of damage in this league. And I like the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.120 Celtics to win the East and I'm kind of sticking 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.720 with that. Yeah, I do too. And when those two 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.679 unbelievable wings Tatum and Brown out on the offensive end, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.320 but then they played defense. They do at a very 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:47.360 very high level, and to boot their third player one 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.520 defensive player of the year. So I just think they're 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.400 set up so nice. I'm envious of the way they're 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.280 set up. Obviously the coaching situation. I'm happy, you know 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.360 that Missoula got you know, you guys first and he's 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.480 on the board. I think it's gonna wark. I mean, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.480 it's a hard team not to have success with, so 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.360 but this is a good opportunity for sure for him. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.120 I think they're gonna win. Yeah, they're the team in 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.400 the East. To me, still, that's the team to beat. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.600 And like you said, it's it's a good fire lit now, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.680 you know, for this team. And they give him the 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.720 game ball. They did the you know, a water the 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.120 water bottle shower, I want to say a gatorade shower 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.720 for you know, to visualize what the players did with 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.760 Joe Missoula after the game. But you get it. They 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.920 clearly are hyped for their coach and that means a 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.400 lot too. So like kind of same thing that you 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.800 see with the Warriors and the Celtics, I feel like, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.200 is they're cool with sharing the love, Like obviously we 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:45.160 have major scorers, but not all teams would so casually 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.320 share the love, like when I mentioned the Warriors went 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.200 in eleven deep and on Tuesday night and and uh, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.360 Celtics really seem like all for one, one for all. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.200 And I don't know, is it so lame to just say, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.760 like that's our finals, Like it's that's so chalk, But 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.080 after what we saw an opening week, it seems to 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:08.880 really solidify why Vegas has them as the favorites. Yeah, yes, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.400 chalk is not always great for a for a podcast conversation, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.880 but there's a reason why we call that. So yeah, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.920 your Pelicans, that's your pick. Oh my Pelican I just 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.080 what a what a like just a masterpiece of how 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.120 things working out in your favor and just so well pointed. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.000 I just wish, because I'm talking as a Knicks fans, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.320 like we could have just got that kind of break 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.080 for that. I was gonna say, your Pelicans are kind 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.200 of the team you're going to be rooting for and 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.840 keeping us informed on throughout the NBA season. But it's 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.320 another bird. Your Seahawks that are in a three way 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.600 tie top the NFC West at three and three. You're right, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.320 tell me you're holding this ticket. Can they actually pull 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.200 it off? You've been calling this one. I get they 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:59.280 are a Tray Lance non injury away from I think 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.360 they might even win that game against the Niners if 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.200 Trey Lance doesn't go out now. And look, this is 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.280 not knock on Trey Lance. I just think he's a 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.800 young quarterback who needs time to figure it out. I 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.520 hate that he got injured. Injuries are the worst part 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.160 of any sport. That being said, I think if he 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.600 stays in that game, Seahawks had a good chance of winning. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.320 The Seahawks are getting better each in every week. Go 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.440 look at their their numbers, go look at whatever analytics 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.400 you want to. Look at. Their defense not so good, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.040 but the offense is moving the ball, genio is getting better. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.800 They still have weapons everywhere. And I'm just again, I 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.520 don't feel confident about the Rams. I definitely don't feel 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.560 confident about the Cardinals. Uh, the Niners. I guess I 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.320 still feel confident. They've lost so many players on defense 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.840 that I'm whole. I'm loving this ticket. It's not gonna happen. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.280 But what a fun I told everyone, this will be 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.320 your fun lottery ticket for the year, and everything I 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.120 said is holding up on that. I mean that just 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.040 it's so crazy that we were sitting here laughing at you. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.800 Can you believe that we laughed at you? But the 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.120 NCS is just a dumpster fire. And hey, look for 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.880 the forty niners sake, if there is a time to 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.679 have injuries, it's now. When those starters come back, I 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.000 think they're scary. I think tip to tail they're an 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.160 elite team. So Kyle Shanahan has to get creative. He's 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.800 getting creative to score. He cannot rely on that defense. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.600 And I mean, there's there's a lot to like about 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.680 San Francisco when they come back, But for your sake, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.040 I hope the Seahawks can can stay at top. What 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.320 makes Seattle even more interesting is that they hold Denver's 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.919 first and second round picks for the next two years, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:35.320 which look Denver's look, it's very high pick. So at 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.639 what point does Denver to say, you know, Russ, let's 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.240 shut this down, get healthy, and we're going to figure 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.399 it out this offseason because this is ugly. Well, I 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.320 don't think they can look depending on what his health 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.600 actually is. Right Like, if you have some kind of 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.960 injury that's not going to get better without real time 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.240 off for surgery, you know Russ is gonna do whatever 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.040 he has to do in the offseason to get healthy. 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.560 So you know he's gonna take care of it. But 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.520 when you don't have those draft picks, you're not in 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.159 the business of shutting anything down. You're in the business 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.240 of going forward and doing whatever you can to win. 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.320 Um one of the worst situations to be Now, look, 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.600 there's still very much in the thick of things. It's 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.240 not like their seasons over. They're they're winning ugly games 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.280 when they have to. The a f C West certainly 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.320 is not the juggernaut that we thought they would be. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.960 And we could talk about your Chiefs for three weeks 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.640 in a row now absolutely looking horrendous when you think 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.919 about what the Chiefs should look like, you know, and 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.720 I know they stole one of those games. I think 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.880 I think horrendous is a good word for the Chiefs, 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.960 the team that we're expecting the role losing to the Cults, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.520 top three team in the league, I mean, okay, last 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.679 interception have them as a top three team in the 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.520 league right now, you wouldn't say the top three teams 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.840 in the NFL are Billy Buffalo in Kansas City. I 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.680 have Kansas top five I could make again, we're going 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.640 off of what we've seen so far. I have other 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.800 teams that I've liked the look of things way more 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.439 than I like what the Chiefs are doing, like the 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.240 Dallas Cowboys, who are about to get Dak Prescott back 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.359 and have an elite defense that's for real. Say what 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.760 you want about Minnesota. I like the Vikings weapons way 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.879 more than I like the Chiefs weapons. Now. Defensively, yeah, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.520 you got me there, but I just look, I'm sure 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.480 they'll get it together and figure it out. But we're 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.280 seeing the post Tyree kill offense, and yeah, Kelsey is 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.680 amazing and can carry you with four touchdowns. But I 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.880 don't know. I got three weeks now where it has 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.760 not looked good to me, he said, like you've gotten 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.840 burned in fantasy. Who who was on your fantasy team 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.080 this week? I don't want to discuss fan I'm one 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.000 in five and two leagues, Like it's it's over for me. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.919 But no, seriously, that Raider game they stay stole that 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.480 game and they it was it was my homes and 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.400 Kelsey the whole way. So I don't I don't feel 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.480 good about the Chiefs. I don't know how I got 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.080 to them. But oh Denver, I don't know if they 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.639 unless the injury is really bad with Ross or something 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.119 going on. I saw some grumblings on Twitter about like 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.960 a Giants may try to trade for Jerry Judy. Why 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.159 on Earth with Denver trade Jerry Judy. That's just a 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.480 bad Twitter rumor. Yeah, I love it because I'm a 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.199