1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: I'll see a lot of people try to make a video. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: When I say try to make it like, it's like 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: they sit down. 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: gonna be funny. 6 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's that's not how it works all the time. 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people 8 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: can tell when you try to do something, if something 9 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: is naturally funny, you can tell. In order to be 10 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game 12 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: and record it. That five minutes of me just having 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: fun change my life. I sat there for twenty five 14 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here. 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Let me Dang, that wasn't smooth. I didn't go how 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: you sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you 18 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: know what, man, let me just see how much time. 19 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: I don't even care. That message is just to say, 20 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna make content, please just be you. Do you, 21 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: and it's gonna come out great. But I promise I 22 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you. 23 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Bro, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Button Nomics podcast. 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brandon Butler, founding CEO of Butter atl 25 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: and today we got a tech Man in the building, 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: tech Man himself, mister Julius Slater, Julie, How you doing, bro? 27 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I am blessed, I'm amazing, I feel great. I'm honored 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: to be here. I appreciate you for having me on. 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh man, I appreciate you. I just I just saw 30 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: Get it clear. Now we're going by We're going by Juice, 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: We're going by tech Man. How would you like me 32 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: to refer to you during the rest of this commed? 33 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: You know what, Today I'm feeling a bit techy, So okay, 34 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: let's let's keep it tech Man. Let's keep it tech Man. 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, sir. Now, I'm sure 36 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: people will know who you are. I'm sure they've seen 37 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: some of the videos and stuff like that. You know, 38 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: the viral uh you know Star Wars video. You know 39 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the VR stuff. But just so, so, 40 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: who is tech Man? 41 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Tech Man is an anomaly. Tech Man is so much. 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Tech Man is an anime character, 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: a superhero anti hero. Tech Man is tech Man is 44 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: future me. Tech Man is everyone who I ever will be, 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: all into one personified into my content. 46 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: That that is the deepest answer I've ever heard anybody. Again, 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just gonna assume he just plugged into 48 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: the You know, I don't know. Lawnmower Man might be 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: before your time, Bro, but I'm just saying, go look 50 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: up lawnmower Man. But I feel like you were plugged 51 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: into the Internet the same way lawnmower Man was and 52 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: scared the hell out of us back in the day. 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: You just put me on. I'm gonna go look up. 54 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I've never seen lawnmar Bro. 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: It's crazy man. Like the short version of it, there's 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: this guy he's like developing VR and all this stuff. 57 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: This is like in the nineties lawnmower It's the movie 58 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: is called lawnmore Man. I think there's a there's definitely 59 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: a two. There might be a three. Also, the long 60 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: story short, there's this guy he works for this tech company. 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: He's developing like all these VR systems, and there's this 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: guy that's like the lawnmower man outside. He's like a 63 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: special needs dude, but he's like the lawnmower guy. So 64 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: the guy says, well, look, I think this stuff can 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: help anybody. So he basically gets the lawnmower guy to 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: gree to like start doing tests with the VR. Long 67 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: story short, lawnmower man like ends up becoming the Internet 68 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: like some kind of way. And this is in the nineties, bro, 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Like some kind of what. He uploads his whole consciousness 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: like into the Internet and begins becoming like scotting it 71 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: and like killing people and taking over the world and 72 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: all that. And they can't they can't destroy him, Like 73 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: you never seen this move before. 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: No, But I'm about to watch it tonight. Bro. 75 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: The graphics now, you know, like those nineties Internet graphics, 76 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It looks like aol on crack. 77 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you're fine. I'm telling you it's the concept. 78 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: For me, it's the storyline, the plot that's lawnmower Man. 79 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm surprised, Bro. You gotta see law more. Man. I'm 80 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: just telling you right now, you're gonna look at it 81 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be cracking up. But it's also when 82 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: you see it, a lot of the stuff they're talking 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: about is already starting to happen. To day with just 84 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: again they're talking about VR and the internet and again 85 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: this is like back during AOL days. 86 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I need that. I'm not sure. 87 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I have to look that up, see where I can 88 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: find it's streaming on it something. 89 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: It's the thing, man, But look bro like, so I 90 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: know you do all kinds of stuff in a tech 91 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: especially in the VR space though, right, Like, just for 92 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: those who don't know, man, explain kind of the state 93 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: of VR to day, because I think people know about 94 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: it at a high level. They think it's all just 95 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: about like throwing on the big oculus glasses and stuff 96 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: like that, but there's so much more beneath that's going on. Suggestion, 97 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: you are the VR expert, E've gonna bring our audience 98 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: up to you know, what's going on and what's happening 99 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: in the VR right now. 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: The crazy thing about virtual reality is I don't believe 101 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: it's in It's still in its infancy. But it's still young, right, 102 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: It's still like especially like as a content creator is 103 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: still a niche, so like it's one of It's one 104 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: of those things where me, I believe that VR is 105 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: a future wearable technology in general. Right, it's only so 106 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: much more. We can update our phones too, it's only 107 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: you know, so with virtual reality, it gives you access 108 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: to literally an entirely new world. Like so for me, 109 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: when I look at virtual reality, it's literally a second reality. 110 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: It's a second world, right. So there's so much that 111 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: you can do within virtual reality other than playing video games. 112 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Right now, they have like simulations where you can do 113 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: open heart surgery, or you can do simulations to improve 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: whatever career path you're on without anything hindering your learning process, 115 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, Like they have de escalation situations for police officers. 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: You'll get in virtual virtual reality and try to de 117 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: escalate a situation. Right now, the state of VR is 118 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: in such a I think it's having a boom right now, Like, 119 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: especially in the gaming side, this is a first year 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: where in a long time where there are a lot 121 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: of people excited about the games coming out, Like this fall, 122 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: you got games like Batman, Arkham Shadow. You've got major 123 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: ips coming to virtual reality like Metro. These are things 124 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: that like people who aren't really used to VR, they're 125 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: now able to find a reason to get in because 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: usually people will look at VR as a gimmick, like 127 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: why would I want to put this on my head, 128 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: to like be by myself doing something somewhere, which isn't 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't look at it for the 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: adventure or what you can do inside of virtual reality. 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: They don't look at the imagination or how much you 132 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: can actually do in virtual reality. So now in twenty 133 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: twenty four, I believe we're taking the steps to make 134 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: it more mainstream, but it in the hands of more people, 135 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: like especially with like the Metaquest three is coming out. 136 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: That headset is only two hundred ninety nine dollars, right, 137 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and for me to say only two ninety nine Back 138 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, in order to even get into virtual reality, 139 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: you needed an eight hundred dollars VR headset along with 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: a two thousand dollars computer. So now that you can 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: get a high level of virtual reality with high graphics, 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: good fidelity for three hundred dollars, it's like we're literally 143 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: stepping into the future right now. 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think and just for those folks that 145 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, you know, we talk, we're gonna 146 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: talk about a lot about VR. But also there's what 147 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: we call AR, right, so RS augmented reality. We're almost 148 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: kind of like laying a tech layer or something visual 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: on top of the real world in front of you. 150 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: So for example, I mean, I know you got the 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: glasses on right now. They're not fully ar but hypothetically, 152 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: you know, if they were, you could be looking at 153 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: me and it could be literally in your lenses like 154 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: show you like my social profile, like information about me 155 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: versus VR. Is you actually putting on the glasses themselves 156 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: and being from completely immersed in the experience. 157 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think people even understand the possibilities of 158 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: augmented reality, right, Like you say, I have these glasses on, 159 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: and you want to create the clothing brand that interacts 160 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: with augmented reality glasses. Say, right now you have on 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: this black hoodie, but then you have a three M 162 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: logo or something on it, right, the glasses interact with it. 163 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Now you have on whatever your virtual avatar once yeah 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: in my eyes right, Say, for instance, you have Pokemon Go. 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: When that craze came out and everybody was on their 166 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: phones running around, imagine now you don't have to be 167 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: distracted holding your phone up. Now you can just walk around, 168 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: turn the app on in the background, you go for 169 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: a walk or a jog. You see a Pokemon run 170 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: across you, you can just catch it. Now with augmented reality, 171 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: the virtual world is seamlessly connected with the real world. 172 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm excited for. Virtual reality is amazing, yes, 173 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: but once we're able to seamlessly connect both the virtual 174 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: world and the real world together with good fidelity, occlusion 175 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and everything like that is going to be a different 176 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: type of world. 177 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, It's going to bring a whole new layer 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: to just everything you interact with. I mean, I remember 179 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: being at the park and seeing groups of people playing 180 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Pokemon Go, and it's like, what are they doing? They're 181 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: all holding their phones and kind of running around, you know, 182 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: it's almost getting hit by cars they go down to 183 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: the street. But again that's because you're you're interacting with this, 184 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: but you're looking down at the screen, and that screen 185 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: is showing you the world, and all of a sudden, 186 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: that stuff is literally overlaid right in front of your eyes. 187 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: It becomes, you know, fully seenless and fully integrated. What 188 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I want to know is how did you even get 189 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: started in this stuff? 190 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Man? Man? You know what's so funny? I okay, I'm 191 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: not going to tell the whole story, but I'm gonna 192 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: take it back. So I was pretty I was pretty 193 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: good in high school. 194 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Right. 195 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I graduated thirty six GPA. Right. I went to college, 196 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: but college ironically was not for me. Went for like 197 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: one year, but I personally feel that one year is 198 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: literally why I'm here now because on campus, AT and 199 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: T pulled up and they just had these little cardboard 200 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: boxes that you fold into a VR head cardboard. Yeah right, 201 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that that moment literally changed my life because when I 202 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: put it on my face and you could touch a 203 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: button to have your character move on your phone. But 204 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: with me, I was like, as I pressed the button, 205 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: what if I walk with it? Let me see how 206 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: that feels. Right, So I was like, oh wow, Like 207 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm here then, bro I just locked in, did research, research, research, 208 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: started working. I really didn't wasn't able to afford or 209 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: get into VR because I was a broke college kid 210 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: until the could goal came out. That was like two 211 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, but it had one controller and you only 212 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: had three directions of movement. You only could move your 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: head up and the right to left, up and down right, 214 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: So that was cool. Started playing with that, but then 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I got into I did a focus group, which is ironic, 216 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and they sent me the Medoquest one. I was gonna 217 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: get it anyway, but they sent it to me for free. Right. 218 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like, ray, I can just make content and 219 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: do stuff and get stuff for free. So I started 220 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: making a little content. It was doing decent. But then 221 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I said, I was listening to Gary 222 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Vee and I had a few friends just saying, bro, 223 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: just why are gonna get on TikTok. I said, you 224 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna try it out. March ninth, twenty 225 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: twenty one, I posted my first TikTok on VR content 226 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: viral already, Right in a year, I was at one 227 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: million followers on. 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: TikTok million one year. 229 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in exactly one year. So March nine, twenty 230 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: twenty one to March nine, twenty twenty two, I had 231 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: a million followers cause I was just locked in, like 232 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, I was posting three tiktoks a day 233 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: like cause I was like, oh, it's thirty second videos. 234 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm funny, let me just And I was even trying, 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, I was just making gameplay and 236 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I naturally play the game good. I 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: posted them and they was going viral. One video got 238 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: four million likes m and then from there, I like 239 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that same video I reposted like once or twice a 240 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: year and it go viral every time. 241 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: Now we'll get into that a second, but I just 242 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: want to know what's what's the experience like of going 243 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: from zero to one million in a year? Like, how 244 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: does that? How does your life change over the over 245 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: the course of that process. 246 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Man, that's a deep question, because look, I ain't gonna 247 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: lie to you. It's a lot of ups and downs mentally, because, 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: like one, because it's so easy. At first, I didn't 249 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: know how to really place my value because I was like, man, 250 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: it was so easy. I'm pretty sure everybody can do it, 251 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: even me. But then everybody was like, bro, you're inspiring me. 252 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it and it couldn't be replicated, right, 253 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: So then I'm like, okay, how do I like? It's 254 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the mental part is trying to figure out your value 255 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to business, And at first I wasn't 256 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: a businessman. If I'm being honest, I was getting into 257 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: it just like, Okay, it's a thirty second video. This 258 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: amount of money is cool. I'm just take it. Right, Yeah, 259 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm living like I don't got to work, you know 260 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So mentally it's like you really get 261 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you got to learn a lot. You gotta learn a lot, 262 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and then could you with the fast growth comes people 263 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: and businesses that want to work with you, and a 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the times for me, a 265 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: few of the times they didn't have good intentions at 266 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Right, So it's the it's hard, 267 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird. It's a weird place because you 268 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: grow in a year and you like, dang, bro, like 269 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm him, like I kind of made it. You feel me, 270 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: feel like you made it, got the condo in Miami, 271 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: even me in a year, you feel me. So I'm like, okay, 272 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: the ups and down. So it's really it takes like 273 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: it's a loaded question, bro, because it feels great, but 274 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: then it's like what comes with it? 275 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: No, Look, look now you know I've I've grown a platform. 276 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean we haven't grown into a million, but I 277 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: can definitely understand the point of what comes with growing 278 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: something and kind of becoming a person and all of 279 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: a sudden everybody kind of coming at you and he 280 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what their intentions are, what they want, 281 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: because it ain't like they just coming at you for 282 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: their health. 283 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because y'all wasn't messing with you, 284 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: y'all messing with tech man. 285 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying. 286 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: You know. 287 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: So it's like it's like you start wondering, like what 288 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: the objective is on top of that, you're trying to 289 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: figure out, Yeah, how do you value yourself in the market? 290 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Like am I undervalue myself? My overvalue myself? Like getting 291 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: more comfortable asking for certain things? 292 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Right? 293 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 2: You know again just for the context, right, like when 294 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: you start start happening, like are we talking three figure deil? 295 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: Like six figure deils? Two figures? You gotta be specific 296 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: just so there's some broad specifics man, Like what happens? 297 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna lie tell you 298 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: around like twenty two I was touching like six figures. Wow, yeah, 299 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna because like I ain't gonna lie to 300 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: tell you like I got twelve on my neck, but 301 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: like I was. But that's what I'm saying. That's what 302 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: a mental Because you're young, you start making money, you 303 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: start and then you got to balance it out right, 304 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: and you gotta it's the maturity that comes with it. 305 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: And then it's like spreading yourself in the market. Yeah, 306 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna lie. I was doing so great 307 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: on TikTok. I didn't really I didn't really spread myself 308 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: too far on everything else, right, but yeah, it was 309 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: it was a it was some good because I'm like, 310 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna cap like for thirty second video. At 311 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: times you definitely was getting four figures per thirty second video. 312 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, cause 313 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: you it was. It was at a point where like, 314 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, bro. It was at a point 315 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: where on TikTok you thought you saw VR. You literally 316 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: just saw tech man. Literally that's all you saw. It 317 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: was a point where VR just tech man, tech man, 318 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: tech man. Now it's like, I'm at the driver is 319 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: to make that everywhere YouTube, Twitch, Instagram like tech man, 320 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: tech man, tech man. My what's funny. Back in I 321 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: had a esports team had picked me up and our 322 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: slogan for me was like the face of VR. And 323 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: that's still the goal, you feel me, that's still we're 324 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: still working on it because ain't gonna lie. It was 325 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: so back in like my heyday, back when I was like, 326 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I was like ignorant back but I was like I 327 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: was the face of VRE I'm talking about, and I 328 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: was moving like it too. I'm talking about. I was 329 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: at events I'm talking about. You can't think of VR 330 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: if I seen tech ma I' talking about. I was 331 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: on ESPN Lebron James like my post. You know what 332 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm on ESPN Fox, I'm on Bleacher Report 333 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: reposting me. I'm like, bro, I thought I was gonna 334 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: be on ESPN for football. I'm on ESPN for VR. 335 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: You feel me? So? Look, of course my head got 336 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: a little big at one point. But it's like you, 337 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: you you go through it and you understand how you 338 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: gotta how you gotta navigate it. 339 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask too, 340 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, just understanding how you manage that? 341 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Right? 342 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: Did you start looking for, you know, a team or 343 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: like mentors and people around you just to kind of 344 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: give you some con because again, at that point, you 345 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: got to start asking yourself like who can I trust? 346 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: Man? 347 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: Who's got my best interest in mind? Right, I'm sure 348 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: kind of comes up. So how did you kind of 349 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: manage on that side to make sure you were taking 350 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: care of the business of tech man also so that 351 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: you could be sustainable. 352 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Row row Row, I don't even know where acting that is, 353 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: but brow when it comes to business and trust, bro literally, 354 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I just got comfortable with business and 355 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: trusts like three four five months ago when I signed 356 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: with my current manager, because now it's like I have 357 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: a manager specifically for me, right, because at first, like 358 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I said, VR is a niche, So at first it 359 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: was like people from like development teams are like different 360 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: places in the industry trying to make like an agency 361 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: or something and try to get other companies like, hey, 362 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: we have these creators. But that's not what they did, 363 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's not what you do. 364 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: But you're trying to do. I understand you're trying to 365 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: figure out a place in the market because of the 366 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: growing market, there's so many possibilities of VR. But on 367 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: a business standpoint, bro, like, because the industry is new, 368 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: and like entertainment in the industry especially is new with VR, 369 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm just not feeling like business wise because my manager 370 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: now has done worked with creators other than like virtual 371 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: reality stuff, right, and that's really my whole goal. Like, yeah, 372 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: being at the top of a niche is cool, but 373 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to be at the 374 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: top of like everything, if you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah, 375 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: it's cool to be the top VR gamer, but it's 376 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: also way better to be the top gamer. 377 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: So it's like business wise, bro, going through so much. 379 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I doesn't been in my time. I've been ft over 380 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: you feel me, yeah, by like a few companies. But 381 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: right now, yeah, this is the first time I kind 382 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: of feel comfortable, like business wise doing this. And I've 383 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: been doing this full time really since I bro, it 384 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: was ironic. I've been doing this four times since the 385 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: day I started it. But but yeah, well about three 386 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: four yeah, about three years, four years. I'm just now 387 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: starting to feel comfortable business wise. 388 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: That's dope. Man. Well, I mean it's a process, bro, 389 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: But like, tell me about these VR worlds, right, So, 390 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: like we talk, you talk about VR, like where is 391 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: all this stuff being built at? Like where do these 392 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: where do these places exist? That for those that don't. 393 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Know what's crazy? Okay, first, I mean, what's crazy. Right now, 394 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: you actually can build a world in VR. You can 395 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: get in there and physically be there, build it, mold it, 396 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: see the side you want it like we done took 397 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: steps so far into the future. And my well, actually yeah, 398 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: because if you knew about VR since twenty sixteen and 399 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: you like see the steps is how far we can 400 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: be Like dang, a lot of people just look at 401 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: it now if you just get interested in VR. I 402 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: was like, that's a cool look give me but bro 403 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: long way, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Originally, well 404 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: even right now, still you can build worlds in Blender, 405 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: transform the unity, put in assets like that, build them 406 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: on a computer. A lot of these things are it's 407 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: really complete imagination. It's like, in my eyes, it's like 408 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: building Legos. I get in Blender, like because I'm working 409 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: on some VR projects right now, I get in Blender. 410 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: It's literally like Legos because you can download asset packs 411 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: community to for VR hands if you weren't hand tracking. 412 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: For me personally, from what I've been seeing, I personally 413 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: don't have to do a lot of coding because a 414 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: lot of things are like in there for you for 415 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: plug and play. Yeah, so on my end, it's pretty simple. 416 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: It's really just imagination and how much time you want 417 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: to put into it and. 418 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: When you build these worlds out, like you know, we've 419 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: talked about, you know, creating assets and things exist in 420 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: these worlds, right, Like how do you monetize these worlds? 421 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: And like how do you make it? How do you 422 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: get people in there? And how do you monetize on 423 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: top of you know, having an audience inside that VR 424 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: world because you look, you was talking about some crazy 425 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: stuff you will be doing in VR. 426 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, okay, okay. If I'm going to be 427 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: blunt specifically with if I'm going to build something or 428 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: like a freelancer that's not going to build like a 429 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: game to put on a platform. If you want to 430 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: build like your own world to put in like a 431 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: social platform like VR Chatter Horizon, it's unlimited, like if 432 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: you you can monetize it however you want to, Like 433 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: however you would think to monetize in real life, you 434 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: can monetize that way in VR. So the project I'm 435 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: working on started off as a one to one replica 436 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: of my apartment bucket. Right, I was like, bro, I 437 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: can just build the whole building. So because it's pretty 438 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: simple once you get like the tools and Blender and 439 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you understand how to make your workflow easier. So I 440 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: just got a copy of my of the floor plan 441 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: of the building and literally just make it one to 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: one and then you put in all the assets you want. 443 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: So once the bases built, the floor plan and the walls, 444 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: the everything is like that, you can design to have 445 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: you want to. So if we want to make it futuristic, 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: we just overlay futuristic materials. We add in some objects 447 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: that will give you the feel of a dystopian or 448 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: futuristic feel, however you want to do it. So that 449 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: being said, now that I've built the whole building with 450 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: my community, if I want to, if I have a 451 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Patreon or something, someone could literally rent out one of 452 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: those apartment buildings to do and live their virtual life 453 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: in because it's a whole community and it's literally like 454 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: a second life. In VR. There are virtual bars where 455 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: you can literally your character will literally get drunk when 456 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: you drink. It's hilarious, like you can and you have 457 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: to watch it because if you get too drunk you'll 458 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: black out. It's you're laughing. But like when you pop 459 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: up to this world. You know it starts, it starts 460 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: getting but like no, but like you literally have to 461 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: walk up to the door if you don't have your 462 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: idea or tell them your birthday. If you're a child, 463 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: you cannot get in in VR. Yeah, like it's policed. 464 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: It's real life. Bro. I had a birthday party in 465 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: VR and people would think like, oh real, but no, Bro, 466 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: I had a birthday part in VR. They like cleared 467 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: out a whole world, like nobody could get in, not 468 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: a whole world. Yeah, they cleared out a whole world. Yeah, 469 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: it's hilarious, bro, it was a whole world. It was 470 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: like a club world, so like you couldn't get in 471 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: unless Like I said, it was cool because at first 472 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: we had this one guy get in and he started 473 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: like just yelling racial slurs because knew it was tag 474 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: Man's birthday. But it's funny because they put a bomb 475 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: on him and he blew up and kicked him out. 476 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it's policing in here, bro, 477 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: Like we got security. Bro, it's strip clubs in here. Bro. 478 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Look bro, look there's Look when you look at VR 479 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: and you look at the commercials, you just see people 480 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: with the head sit on and the controllers moving their 481 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: head in their hands. Right, there's levels. Bro, you got 482 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: full body tracking. You put the trackers on your hips 483 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: and your ankles. Right now, you can move your entire 484 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: body in VR. You can kick if you're in a 485 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: fighting game, you can kick somebody, punch somebody, step on 486 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: somebody when you're in a social VR game. Right. They 487 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: have strip clubs that they build out that you cannot 488 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: get in unless you are I got whatever age some 489 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: of them eighteen and twenty one. But they really check 490 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: like you cannot get in here if you're not of 491 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: age because they are a real woman in full body 492 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: tracking dancing to get paid in virtual reality. 493 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: Let me get this straight. So I go in the 494 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: virtual reality world. Yeah, I can go to VR Magic City. Yeah, right, 495 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: but I can't get in because it's got a bouncer 496 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: at the front. 497 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: You gottach my, I d Yeah, no, you can look. 498 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a portal. Go in the portal. 499 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the world. Once you're in the world, 500 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: there'll be a door with the bouncer, and so. 501 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: You gotta show up and then you go in and 502 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: there literally because yeah, I think people think that just 503 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: VR is just the headsets. But to your point, there's like, 504 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: you know, what you call haptic suits and like the 505 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: gloves and you said pen ankle things right where you 506 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: can feel and move right. 507 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: Don't get me started on the haptic suits at the 508 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: strip club. Oh but my bad, bad. I'm let you finish. 509 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: I let you finish, my bad. 510 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: But it's just interesting to me, man, Like, I think 511 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: that like people really you don't understand that these this 512 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: world kind of exists, and they think that it's maybe 513 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: just like some small, little niche community, right, but there 514 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: are millions of people that are interacting with he thinks 515 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: from across the world. 516 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Yes, there are love stories of people who I've never met. 517 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: Physically married in VR or something like run. 518 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: Literally proposed married in VR, and I'm like, bo, you 519 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: know what, it's each his own. 520 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: But no, man, no, it's yeah. I think people don't understand, like, 521 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: you know, again, like how how big this really is? 522 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Like with the scale, it's also possible to your point, 523 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, you're talking about how you can create you know, 524 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: assets and jewelry and things that people actually buy, you know, 525 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: in VR, they you know, have to customize their avatars 526 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: and all this stuff. But then even though it's VR money, 527 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: that money has got that's real money too. 528 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh bo bo bo bo, What do you mean VR money? 529 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: All of this is USD. What you mean you can like? Okay, 530 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: So I know a guy named Hardy, he makes worlds 531 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: in Horizon. He made he made a Hardy coin that 532 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: if you want to go inside of his world and 533 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: buy some assets or something, go buy Go purchase some 534 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: Hardy coins. So now you have your Indian coins that 535 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: were converted from USD. So it's hilarious because it's like 536 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: all you got to do is build the popularity of 537 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, because like if I tell you right now, 538 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: hey brother, look, I'm selling some tech coins if you 539 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: want to buy like a bundle for ten dollars and 540 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: come to my world and like do some stuff. But 541 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: I'd be dope. You'll be like why would I do that? 542 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: Because like I don't know the world, Like I don't 543 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. So it's the marketing behind it. 544 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: So it's building out the world, doing the content behind it. 545 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: Doing like so even with the world I'm doing, everything 546 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm building is a part of marketing, right, So tech 547 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: Man is going to have a comic book. I'm working 548 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: on a comic book. When I get to the point, 549 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to have it animated. Some stuff I'm building 550 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: is like stuff that's going to be inside of the 551 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: world of the tech Men world. So even when I 552 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: do merch, when I make like clothing, it'll be clothing 553 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: that's worn from the characters in the comics. It's not 554 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: going to be like a picture of tech Man on 555 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: a shirt. It's going to be like the brand. For example, marketing. 556 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: If you watch Narbito, you see they wear the headbands 557 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: all the time. If I go to the storm by 558 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: a headband, I'm with them. I'm a part of the Klan. 559 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Now you feel me. I'm there, I have the nostalgia. 560 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: So with me, the marketing is different. It's like everything 561 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: isn't calculated, it's together. So like if you get in 562 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: VR and go to this world, you're going to be 563 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: in the world that you had read in the comic 564 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: book or seen in the tech Man show. So now 565 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: you get to actually be there with tech Man. 566 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: And just again just to again give context for the 567 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: folks that understand, like when you say worlds like again, 568 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: these are just completely immersive experiences. So a world could 569 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: be anything from to your point, a replication of your 570 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: apartment building, right, you know, and that is the world. 571 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: That could be the whole world and within itself, now 572 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: in each one of those rooms there could be a 573 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: totally different experience. 574 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Well, my specific world is going to literally be a 575 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: world like the building is. 576 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: In the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too, right, 577 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: But I mean I'm just saying like, on one level, 578 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 2: a world could literally just be a building but all 579 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: these things in it, right, Or it could be literally 580 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: a world in which there are many buildings in many 581 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: places and many things you could do. 582 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: Right. 583 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: What are some just like really unique worlds again, because 584 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I think people think about you know, we talked about 585 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: the Strip club, like, what's like a unique world that 586 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: you've seen, or it's just really interesting that somebody put together. 587 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: One of the dopest worlds is there's this world you 588 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: teleport in and it's just like a vast ocean like 589 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: beyond where you can see, right, but it's only up 590 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: to like ankle level, so it kind of feels like 591 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: you're I guess it would feel like an afterlifeish type 592 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: of feel. But then there's a giant tree in the middle. 593 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: It's a treehouse. You go into treehouse and then you 594 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: can press like a there's a screen you can choose 595 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: from and then the space around you will turn to 596 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: whatever ambient a visual you choose. So it feels very 597 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: like psychedelic, and it can like put you on like 598 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: such a level of peace because it's like calm, binurobeats, 599 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: frequencies and things like that, where it's like you put 600 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: you in such a space of zen and meditation. And 601 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: then there are different worlds where you can literally go 602 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: on like scuba dive or you'll just sit there and 603 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: ride and you'll go underwater see giant wells or sharks 604 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. A lot of worlds are like 605 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: very I guess I would say trippy, dystopian futuristic, make 606 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: you feel like you're in a movie. Everything like Ready 607 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: Player one, everything Ready Player one. Yeah, Like it's really 608 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: hard to say because you see so much like what 609 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: can you pull out? It's like I really want people 610 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: to just go and see, you know, like one day 611 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: I might see if I might get like headsets and 612 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: just have like a little tour, like y'all come with me, 613 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: let's all go on a virtual for a tour in VR. 614 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: And then look, we need we need to do a 615 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 2: butter VR tour. Man, let's go hook it up bring 616 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: some people. Now, that's but that's a good point though. 617 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: Like so, say somebody's listening to this conversation right now 618 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: and they're like, man, you know what tech man is Dope, 619 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: I want to do that too. How do they go 620 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: from zero to one? They want to get started? They 621 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: don't have no VR stuff. All they got is a 622 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: laptop and a nice internet connection at home. What's what's 623 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: the first thing they should do? 624 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Zero one, zero to one to VR content creation. 625 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: Or just even just experience in VR. But then I'll 626 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: also be a content creational tone. 627 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Man, first, if you just want to experience a VR. Look, 628 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: this isn't even because you can go in the link 629 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: in my bio and then get a discount. This isn't 630 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: even why I'm expressing that. I'm not even going to 631 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: say this because you can get a thirty dollars gift 632 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: card when you use the link in my bio. You 633 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Sure, that's not why I'm saying this. 634 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna say is because it's affordable it's only 635 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: two ninety nine, and then like, literally the graphics in 636 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: the Metaquest three are amazing. I'm not gonna lie, like 637 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not even joking. Like if I was going 638 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: to recommend a headset, it would be the meda Quest 639 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: three because of the process and power. It has a 640 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: headphone jack, YadA YadA. But if you just want to 641 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: get into VR, the medic Quest three s is two 642 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: ninety nine and it's literally as almost as strong as 643 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: the Quest three. It literally it just has different lenses. 644 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, I would I recommend, I tell everyone 645 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: get the medic Quest three. Yes, it's the best entry 646 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: level VR. You don't need a PC because everything comes 647 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: on the headset. But if you do have a PC headset, 648 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: you can stream your PC games wirelessly to the Quest three, 649 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: So then you'll be able to experience like very high 650 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: quality virtual reality games wirelessly, because my biggest thing is 651 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't like wires when I play VR. 652 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to be able to move around like 653 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: I've seen you even have like the thing you can walk. 654 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: On and all that. Yeah, that's one of my sponsors 655 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: to the catwalk. Yeah, and I'm not saying like, if 656 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: you want one. You can hit the link in my 657 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: bio and get one hundred and thirty dollars off. But 658 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: just theoretically, if you did want one, could get a 659 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: discount by using the link in my body. 660 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: I like, how you just see this what I'm talking about. This, 661 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: this is the influential aspect of it coming in and 662 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm one here for One of the things we were 663 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: talking about too, was representation VR. Yes, right, Like, what's 664 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: your perspective on that? Because I know, again I've seen 665 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: stuff and again you look down and you're like, man, 666 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: these hands all like my hands, But like you're working 667 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: on that stuff too, aren't you. 668 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to. Well, one, just being a voice. 669 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: My biggest thing is being a voice because you know, 670 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: some people in the VR content creative community, the people 671 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: have someone called me the Jackie Robinson of VR. But 672 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: do you know how much pressure that is? I'm like, bro, 673 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm just making content. They're like, man, we don't see 674 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: no brothers doing it like you, thank you, bro, but no, Like, 675 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to see more representation, not only in 676 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 1: the games, like as far as how I look as 677 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: a character and character creation, but even in the space 678 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: in general. Like content creators. Bro. It used to be 679 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: a point where I'll go to these events with these 680 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: VR companies and Bro's literally the only black person there. 681 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about not just content creators. I'm talking about 682 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: the developers, the cameramen, the I'm like, Okay, it feels 683 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: it felt a little off right now, being able to 684 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: motivate others to make VR content bring them in. It 685 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: feels good because now we have a little bit more 686 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: representation in the space as far as like people to look 687 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: up to for content streamers and VR content, Like shout 688 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: out to my boy Turbo Man. Me and Turbo tried 689 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: to make like build a team of content creators, right 690 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: but unfortunately they weren't originally content creators, so they didn't 691 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: take it as seriously. Yeah, we even gave them like 692 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: VR headsss and so, like we gave them the tools. 693 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: But shout out to Turbo because Turbo is the only 694 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: one who locked in and like Bro, I'm talking about 695 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: Turbo's live streams of NFL Pro Era. He would get 696 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: like thousands of people watching his live streams right now. 697 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: He's the only one with me from the group that 698 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: we made that like gets flown out to these events 699 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: like to meta to Bro was in the NBA All 700 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Star Like he went to the NBA All Star Game 701 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: to host it. 702 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 2: Like the Hi. 703 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Telling people make some content. The v our space where 704 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: so many opportunities, Like it's like, Bro, just do it. 705 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Why not? 706 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: We'll talk about opportunities for a second. For creators that 707 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: are looking to get started. I mean, you know, one 708 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: of the things I hear people talking about is, you 709 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: know GG six is coming out, Like there's all these 710 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: moments that are going to start happening. But for creators 711 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: that are getting started, like where should they focus that? 712 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: Are there certain types of games or should they focus 713 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: on building worlds? 714 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: Like oh man, if you're if you're talking about creators 715 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: for virtual reality, Bro, my background is I'm an actor, 716 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Like that's what Actually, that's my main thing. Like I 717 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: love virtual reality but one day and pop off on 718 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: the big screen cap and be a live actor superhero. 719 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: So everybody listening, just make sure y'all manifest that. But okay, 720 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: so honestly, it's really just get in there, have fun. 721 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is for me is quality. But 722 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: if you have like if you set that up and 723 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: just have a system that will already be there and 724 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: all you really have to focus on is having fun 725 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: and like being in the moment and proving right. I'll 726 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: see a lot of people try to make a video 727 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: like try. When I say try to make it like. 728 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: It's like they sit down like, Okay, I'm gonna make 729 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: a video and it's gonna be funny. 730 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's not how it works all the time, 731 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because a lot of people 732 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: can tell when you try to do something, if something 733 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: is naturally funny, you're gonna you can tell if you 734 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: try to make a joke, you have to it's a 735 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: certain finesse you gotta do to make it seem like 736 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't scripted right, because a lot of people don't 737 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: have that finesse. So I feel like in order to 738 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. 739 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play 740 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: the game and record it. 741 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just you know, show you again. Just make 742 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: it all that because you never know. I could tell 743 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: you you never know what's gonna be the thing exactly right, 744 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: and like you know, to that point, you know you're 745 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: one of your biggest pieces of content ever the whole 746 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: Star Wars thing, right, Like that just was something you 747 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: were playing around with. 748 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Bro. Do you know I filmed for okay, my camera 749 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Mike Canon, the os and fifty films for thirty minutes 750 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: every time, right, and then it stops for recording. So 751 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: I'll be like, okay, I got thirty minutes to record, 752 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop. I know I got thirty minutes, so 753 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: I'll check it. Bro. I had twenty five minutes left 754 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: on the camera, and I say, you know what, Bro, 755 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: And it's exactly why I say, do not try just 756 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: play the game. That video that got four million likes. Bro, 757 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I spent twenty five minutes trying to film a video 758 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: playing the game. I looked at the camera. I said, 759 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: I got five more minutes. You know what, Bro, I'm 760 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: not it. I don't feel nothing I did, and none 761 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: of this cool, none of it viral. B. I hopped 762 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: in there and just played for five minutes, since I'm 763 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: just have fun. That video happened in that five minutes. 764 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. Wow, 765 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: because look, Bro, I sat there for twenty five minutes 766 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here. 767 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: Let me dang. That wasn't smooth. I didn't go how 768 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white 769 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man, 770 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: let me just see how much time? Like I don't 771 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: even care. And that's literally why my face was so 772 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: like there was no emotion on my face because I 773 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: literally was mad. I filmed for twenty five minutes, and 774 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: so many comments on that video were like, bro, you 775 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: did it so heartless. Bro, you don't know how mad 776 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: I was when I had twenty five minutes of nothing. 777 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: So I was like, literally, what's funny? It's just like, 778 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: I think the anger of me not getting nothing that 779 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes is the reason I was able to 780 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: smoothly decapitate that woman so easily, because that was the 781 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: smoothest you would think I practiced that. When you looked 782 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: at that, people are like, bro, put him in the 783 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: next Star Wars movie. They kept tagging Disney. I ain't 784 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I thought my life was gonna 785 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: change with that video. You know what I mean? People 786 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: tag Disney. I said, oh snap, bro, it's over with 787 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, but that message is just to say if 788 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna make content. Please just be you, do you, 789 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: and it's gonna come out great. By I promise, I 790 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you. Bro. 791 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: If somebody that's deep in the space, what are you 792 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: excited about that's coming around the corner for. 793 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: R neuralink and I'm just. 794 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: Completely I just want to be the computer. I just 795 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: want to blink and you know, something happens. 796 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like when I'm excited for a man, 797 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: it's like I just want to see what's gonna come. 798 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm anticipating anything anymore. It's 799 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: to the point where I like, ah, it's a blessing 800 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: a curse, right, so I kind of get everything when 801 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: it comes out. So it's hard to like anticipate something like, man, 802 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait because I know it's gonna come. Yeah. 803 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: But if I'm talking about technology wise, it would have 804 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: to be like augmented reality. It would have to be 805 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: the Orion glasses that just were announced, like, it would 806 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: have to be seamlessly mixing both the reality. Like I 807 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: love VR, but if I do, if I would need 808 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: more from VR, maybe a better full body haptic suit. 809 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I need y'all VR to send me my motion 810 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: simulator that I pay Bro. Bro, I'm not gonna lie. 811 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: I'll never do a Kickstarter again. Bro. I paid twenty 812 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars for a motion simulator. It's a chair 813 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: you sit in when you drive, is swing you around, 814 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: you can jumps and stuff. You know all this. I'm like, man, 815 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: I just want more immersive things like that, Like I 816 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: feel like a motion simulator or like things to make 817 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: me feel more immersed, Like do you know what location 818 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: based for VR is? Location based VR is where you 819 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: do not use artificial low commotion. Artificial low commotions when 820 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: you use a joystick to move around, most people get 821 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: motion sick because when they use a joystick to move 822 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: around the in game body is moving, but their body 823 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: is staying still. So location based VR is where you're 824 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: in a big room or a room with enough space, 825 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: but you have markers or things relaying information to your headset, 826 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: so you just walk around the space freely. Then you 827 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: don't have to use artificial commotion. Now you feel like 828 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent in the game. The treadmill, you 829 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: see me on the catwalk. That's cool, But if you 830 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: use art if you use location based VR, like if 831 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: you're in a big space bro, I was playing the 832 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: zombie game with a team. We half the team was 833 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: split up to two elevators. We're on the Physically, we're 834 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: on the same floor right the first elevator went up, 835 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: second elevator went down. Do you know how that feels 836 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: in your mind? We're physically right here, but in VR 837 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: we're on two different floors. But because the way the 838 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: game is communicating with each other, we're never going to 839 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: run into each other, so you really feel like you're 840 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent in that world. So more for me 841 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: for VR, what I need is more location based games, 842 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: like even if it's for my apartment, if I want 843 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: to map my apartment out and then everything turns into 844 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: a game, because they do have games with simulated environments. 845 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: If you map out your bed, it'll turn the bed 846 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: to like a something in game, you know what I'm saying, 847 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: relative to that game. So that's gonna be the most 848 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: immersive things for VR, Like if you can incorporate your 849 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: environment with VR, moving around freely and having the VR 850 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: interact with your environment, that's gonna be more immersive because, 851 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: like imagine we're in here right now, that window turns 852 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: into a window. You and me are now in the 853 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse and we can shoot the zombies as they 854 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: come into the window. It turns your environment into the 855 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: virtual game. That's gonna be what I'm excited for. 856 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: This is this is crazy, man. Before we before we 857 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: get out of here, man, just what's what's one piece 858 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 2: of advice you would just give people about getting started 859 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: in the VR space or like a creator that wants 860 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: to create in the VR space. 861 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: If I'm going to give one piece of advice, it's 862 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: literally my motto is just do it like you Literally, 863 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: you can't overthink it. You can't the wall in a day, 864 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: but you can't lay a brick break by brick. Just 865 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: do it. Literally, just do it, don't overthink it. If 866 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: you already have a VR headset, just learn the recording settings. 867 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: You don't got to do there's any uh, there's recording 868 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: settings in the headset. You don't even have to learn 869 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: OBS or a separate broadcasting software. All the tools are 870 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: right there. Even if you don't have a camera. If 871 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: you have a phone, use your phone. If you're a webcam, 872 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: he's a webcam. Just do it. Just get started, because 873 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: eventually you will have all the tools you need because 874 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: you started, because you learned and made mistakes on the way, 875 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: you'll learn how to perfect it. So just start, Just 876 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: do it, No man, I love it. 877 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: And tech Man before we get out of here. How 878 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: can they find a link in bio? How can they 879 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: How can they support you? How can they follow you 880 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: where they where they find you? You're not a hard 881 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: man to find, but I'm just saying you don't know. 882 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: How can they find you? 883 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: On every platform? It is now tech Man Prime, tech Man. 884 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: Prime, tech Man Prime on all platforms. 885 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: Yes, well T E C H M A N P 886 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: are I am E juice. 887 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 2: The tech Man tech Man Prime. 888 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: Bro. 889 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: This's been an amazing conversation. I've learned a lot. I'm 890 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: sure people have and I'm getting you because I need 891 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 2: when I'm head. 892 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: Says brother. Now, I got you. This was dope. I'm 893 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: not gonna lie man. I felt like this was a 894 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: real conversation. You feel me. 895 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: Hey man, there's a lot more that we could get into, 896 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: and we don't get into, man, but you know, for 897 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: right now, y'all, that's the pods and we out. Yes, sir, peas, 898 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 2: you've been listening the button Nomics and I'm your host, 899 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Butler, comments feedback. Want to be a part of 900 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: the show, Send us an email today at Hello at 901 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: butterdomics dot com. Butter Nomics is produced in Atlanta, Georgia 902 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 2: at iHeartMedia by Ramsey, with marketing support from Queen and Nike. 903 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 2: Music provided by mister Hanky. 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