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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor
Speaker 1: with you. Katherine Nadal is a author, retired Army colonel, nurse,
Speaker 1: psychic medium and clairvoyant. She served in the United States
Speaker 1: Army Reserve for thirty years and for more than three
Speaker 1: decades continues to serve as a registered nerth Catherine's gifts
Speaker 1: of spirit communication have been with her since she was
Speaker 1: a little girl. She's an ordained minister and Our Lord
Speaker 1: and Lady of the Trenacian Church in Salem, Massachusetts, trained
Speaker 1: at the Arthur Findley School and Stanstead, England. Additionally, she
Speaker 1: is a certified medium with the Forever Family Foundation, recently
Speaker 1: featured in the Netflix series Surviving Death. Catherine, you would
Speaker 1: do a great job. Welcome to the program. Thank you, George.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to be on your show. I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan for many years. How have you been. I'm
Speaker 1: very good. How are you good? I was in the
Speaker 1: Navy sometime and did not spend as much time as
Speaker 1: you did in your service of the United States Army.
Speaker 1: Thirty years is a long time. I know. I was
Speaker 1: lucky to do that much time. But thank you for
Speaker 1: your service. What rank did you finally achieve, Colonel full Burn,
Speaker 1: Good for you. I made full lieutenant in the Navy,
Speaker 1: which is like captain in the army. But yes, it's
Speaker 1: a great How did you get involved in psychic information?
Speaker 1: So my first book, sing More Than Clouds in Your
Speaker 1: Coffee describes exactly kind of the moment that I realized
Speaker 1: that I was different than the other kids. I was
Speaker 1: fishing with my dad and one day he said, we're
Speaker 1: not going to go fishing. I'm going to teach you
Speaker 1: how to go crabbing. And he took me out to
Speaker 1: this dock and there was all these little boys on
Speaker 1: the dock and I was the only girl. And he said,
Speaker 1: we're going to drop the net in, and he said,
Speaker 1: and don't pick up the rope. My dad was a
Speaker 1: twelve man. He was like six two and kind of
Speaker 1: stirring at times, and he wandered off to what the
Speaker 1: boys were fishing. And I heard pick it up, pick
Speaker 1: it up, and it was getting louder. So I reached
Speaker 1: down I started to pull the rope up, and my
Speaker 1: dad turned around and he started doing his kind of
Speaker 1: quick march back to me saying what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I pulled the net out of the water and
Speaker 1: there was the biggest blue crab on the dock that day.
Speaker 1: And the little boys came running over and they were like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know and my father was like,
Speaker 1: how did you know that? He kind of like looked
Speaker 1: at me. And then as I started to get a
Speaker 1: little bit older, I started having very visual dreams that
Speaker 1: were sometimes depicting things that were going to happen to people,
Speaker 1: and my father, being a very strict roarming cap like,
Speaker 1: he kind of told me like, don't share this information
Speaker 1: with people, do not entertain this. He shut it down
Speaker 1: very quickly. So but that was the actual pivotal moment
Speaker 1: that I knew that that voice that I was hearing,
Speaker 1: I needed to listen to it and pay attention to it. Now,
Speaker 1: this program, a book of course, Coast to Coast has
Speaker 1: connected you with a lot of people. Tell us about that. Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's amazing. My dad in his older years, he
Speaker 1: would stay up late at night and he would listen
Speaker 1: to your program and he knew I was going up
Speaker 1: and down to Salem every Halloween to work with Christian
Speaker 1: Day and Laurie Burnou and he would fill me in,
Speaker 1: as you know, on all the interviews that you did
Speaker 1: with them, and he was very fascinated with UFOs and
Speaker 1: the paranormals. So I talk about that in my book.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because during my military career, because of
Speaker 1: my rank, I had to travel and the Army reserve
Speaker 1: to get certain positions because of my rank, so they
Speaker 1: told me I'd have to go up to Newport, Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: and every time I went there, I had to pay
Speaker 1: for my own wadging. So I contacted a bed in
Speaker 1: breakfast and I got to talking to the owner and
Speaker 1: I told her, you know, do you do military rate?
Speaker 1: And I started to tell her who I was and
Speaker 1: that I had just had this book out, and she
Speaker 1: told me she was a UFO researcher and that she
Speaker 1: really was very fascinated with all of the work. And
Speaker 1: we started talking about your show, and she gave me
Speaker 1: a military discount, and I stayed with her for many
Speaker 1: many years while I was working there at that unit,
Speaker 1: and then most recently, which was probably like the beginning
Speaker 1: of last summer, I m was sleeping and I listened
Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast kind of like on rewind kind
Speaker 1: of us saying you're older episodes. I just let them play.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, I woke up and
Speaker 1: I kept hearing my name and I leaped up and
Speaker 1: I turned the light on and I started looking at
Speaker 1: the name of the episode, and it was doctor Lori Niddel. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I jotted it down and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I got to look her up in the morning, and
Speaker 1: I looked her up and I thought, wow, it's really fascinating.
Speaker 1: And I sent her an email. And I didn't think
Speaker 1: she was going to contact me so quickly, and she
Speaker 1: she did contact me by email, and then we got
Speaker 1: to talking on the phone and I told her that
Speaker 1: over the past two years I've been struggling because from
Speaker 1: being in Iraq, I was diagnosed with the exposure injury
Speaker 1: which is now known as burn PET, so that I
Speaker 1: have troubled sleeping sometimes and that, you know. And she
Speaker 1: said that she could help me, you know, she could
Speaker 1: teach me how to do meditations, and so we had
Speaker 1: this face kind of friendship, you know, talking over zoom
Speaker 1: and you know, and she was really interested in my
Speaker 1: work because her first book was closed sixth Cents and
Speaker 1: that was before a lot of new age stores were open,
Speaker 1: you know, thirty thirty plus years ago, and even new
Speaker 1: age sections in you know, in stores and libraries didn't
Speaker 1: really exist. So she's probably one of the pioneers on
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of this stuff. So um, so
Speaker 1: she's just wonderful. You already know that. Oh yeah, how
Speaker 1: did you end up highlighting the other side? How did
Speaker 1: that happen for you? So it's interesting because a lot
Speaker 1: of my dreams were so vivid towards the end of
Speaker 1: my teens, and my family would have especial coffee and
Speaker 1: my friends when we were in college, we'd go down
Speaker 1: to the Bronx and have you know, Italian coffee, and
Speaker 1: I started to look in the cups and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could do a reading out of this. You know.
Speaker 1: So my friends in college I went to Mercy College
Speaker 1: for my bachelor's degree, and they were really fascinated by them.
Speaker 1: And we're like, oh, wow, you know, tell us more.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you know, the waitress was
Speaker 1: coming over and people started asking to do it, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I started to say, okay, well I
Speaker 1: can do this. So then you know, we'd go for
Speaker 1: Turkish food and we'd have Turkish coffee, and we'd go
Speaker 1: to a Greek restaurant and there's a Greek coffee and
Speaker 1: and it was all different. You know, all the different
Speaker 1: coffees provide different kind of images and the cups and
Speaker 1: different consistency. My grandmother used to read the leaves left
Speaker 1: in the coffee cups. Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's very similar.
Speaker 1: The coffee though, really sometimes has some dramatic images, you know,
Speaker 1: and for some people they're afraid to get a reading.
Speaker 1: For some people, for you to tell them just something
Speaker 1: that's coming out of your mind kind of you know,
Speaker 1: startles people. But if they can see an image and
Speaker 1: they could put the pieces together like a story, they
Speaker 1: kind of they get ignited into a conversation about it
Speaker 1: or they tell me what they think they see. So
Speaker 1: it's really kind of been good in a way. And
Speaker 1: then I went to Iraq. And when I was in Iraq,
Speaker 1: it was very dangerous there. It was two thousand and
Speaker 1: four to two thousand and five, the army with the army, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was we were getting bombed like on a
Speaker 1: daily basis of it there. And there was a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, they were you know, RPGs and all
Speaker 1: different sorts of injury that was happening while we were there.
Speaker 1: And so my battle buddy said, you know, hey, if
Speaker 1: you if we get out of here, you know you
Speaker 1: go home. You have to share this gift with people,
Speaker 1: because it's just too you know, it's uncanny, like the
Speaker 1: work that you do really should be shared with other
Speaker 1: people to help them. And I promised her. And she's
Speaker 1: from Rhode Island and I came home and very shortly
Speaker 1: after being home, one of the women in Machester County
Speaker 1: that was running psychic there as she contacted me and said,
Speaker 1: could you bring a coffee maker? And I said, my
Speaker 1: espresso coffee maker and she said, yeah, we're having the
Speaker 1: psychic fare and I said, no, one's going to drink that.
Speaker 1: She said, just bring it. She says it'll be fun,
Speaker 1: it'll be a novelty. And I said, well, I have
Speaker 1: cups like I used China cups, and she said, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe one or two people to do it. And I
Speaker 1: was I couldn't believe that day. I was running back
Speaker 1: and forth trying to wash all these cups. I had
Speaker 1: a long line and it was as you don't see
Speaker 1: it very often, and a lot of the women online
Speaker 1: started to tell me something that I didn't realize is
Speaker 1: then certain cultures they don't want the coffee read by
Speaker 1: someone in their own culture, so they feel it's to superstition.
Speaker 1: So they were very eager to get a coffee cup
Speaker 1: done with me. They want an outsider to do. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting. And then you know, from doing
Speaker 1: those readings, you know, it's I tell people I see
Speaker 1: more than the cop you know, I see beyond the cup.
Speaker 1: And I would start talking to someone and say, are
Speaker 1: you open to hearing from you know, the afterlife, those
Speaker 1: that are passed on in your family and friends. And
Speaker 1: they would say yes, and everything that I was saying
Speaker 1: they said was correct. So you know, I started getting
Speaker 1: a lot of feedback. And I was talking to my
Speaker 1: dad and my dad was like strict Roman Catholic, again
Speaker 1: and again and again, and he said, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to to be called a charlatan.
Speaker 1: And I talked about it very a lot in my book,
Speaker 1: but there's a big piece of that conversation in the
Speaker 1: book with my dad because he really felt strongly about that.
Speaker 1: He was a big fan of Houdini, and Houdini was,
Speaker 1: you know, on a journey. You know, a mission, wasn't
Speaker 1: he Yeah, sure, yeah, amazing. And my dad worked at
Speaker 1: the Reader's Digest magazine and in nineteen eighty one they
Speaker 1: published an article about Houdini and I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: My dad started to tell me all these facts about
Speaker 1: Houdini and Houdini's life, and I had no idea that
Speaker 1: he followed him so much, you know. So my dad
Speaker 1: said like, is there any way you could be tested?
Speaker 1: And I said that I had heard about Arthur Finley,
Speaker 1: and my dad said, well, if you can go, you
Speaker 1: should go, because you should really know if they think
Speaker 1: you can do this, not just you know people in
Speaker 1: Westchester that are at a psychic there. So I went
Speaker 1: over to Arthurt Finlay and I worked with the British
Speaker 1: tutor Simonkey, and she validated it. She I actually was
Speaker 1: in the smallest class, nine students, and I thought, jeez,
Speaker 1: I'm just a beginner. It turned out it was the
Speaker 1: top class. And I came home and I said, Dad,
Speaker 1: they said that I can do this. And I became
Speaker 1: friends with Suzanne Nouthrop. I'm sure you know her very well,
Speaker 1: and she's one of the pioneers. She goes back many
Speaker 1: many years ago and she was doing a workshop at
Speaker 1: Omega and then going to her workshop, she told me
Speaker 1: that she was certified through the Forever Family Foundation, and
Speaker 1: she encouraged me to try, you know, to be certified there.
Speaker 1: And they're very strict. They have very high standards and
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful organization and it was started by Bob
Speaker 1: and Fran Ginsberg after their daughter passed away. The book
Speaker 1: you have and she danced by the light of the moon.
Speaker 1: You've got a little You have cats all around you.
Speaker 1: I know, it's amazing. I know. So I got certified
Speaker 1: by Forever Family and they were just recently, like you said,
Speaker 1: featured in Netfoot special Why Cats all around You? So
Speaker 1: cats are very very healing. They're my favorite pet. I've
Speaker 1: had a few pets in my life. My current pet,
Speaker 1: she's very popular in social media. Her name is Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1: I got her during COVID. She was from a shelter.
Speaker 1: Her name is Meg Ryan, Meg Ryan. I know, I
Speaker 1: got her through a shelter because some family during COVID
Speaker 1: dropped her off. And it turns out they dropped her
Speaker 1: off because she wasn't wow. She has a chronic illness.
Speaker 1: She has some you know she has chronic pincreatitis. For
Speaker 1: a cat, it's sometimes common in older cats. And so
Speaker 1: I took her and I I made her well, and
Speaker 1: I continued to make her well every day. But cats
Speaker 1: are very healing. My best friend Cookie, she was living
Speaker 1: in Connecticut and she and I dedicated ourselves to help
Speaker 1: her mother during hospice care. And the cat kept running
Speaker 1: in the room and sitting underneath the hospice bed. And
Speaker 1: you know a few hours before her mom was condition
Speaker 1: was changing, the cat left the room and that's when
Speaker 1: the family knew that it was probably coming closer to
Speaker 1: that time. And another wonderful story about how intuitive cats
Speaker 1: are is my cousin Tommy. He was a patient as
Speaker 1: a New Jersey BA and he was going back and
Speaker 1: forth and getting radiation treatment and he would come home
Speaker 1: and lay on his couch and he'd call me on
Speaker 1: the phone. And one day he'd called me. He called
Speaker 1: me on the phone and said, I can't believe it,
Speaker 1: he goes. I thought it was just, you know, like
Speaker 1: a flue, he said, But every time I lay on
Speaker 1: this couchy if the radiation, the cat climbs up and
Speaker 1: lays right where they give me radiation. And that was
Speaker 1: like one of my last great conversations with him because
Speaker 1: he used to always tease me and say, oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you see now, Kath. You know, he was
Speaker 1: like a healthy skeptic, you know. So cats really are
Speaker 1: very intuitive. There's a long history of cats, as you know,
Speaker 1: with you know, they can see the other side. They
Speaker 1: can I know, they're amazing and my cat is really amazing.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to incorporate them on this particular cover.
Speaker 1: The cover of the artwork was done by Um Squidino
Speaker 1: and he's actually a very well known artist in the
Speaker 1: music business. He designs a lot of work from Metallica
Speaker 1: and Paul Stanley, I mean Paul McCartney, excuse me. And
Speaker 1: he asked me what do you want for your cover?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I would like to be dancing
Speaker 1: with the cats. And then he said, what do you
Speaker 1: want for the back? The back is weird, by the way,
Speaker 1: did you see the back? It's amazing. It's got an
Speaker 1: eyeball floating around that's got Yeah. So I said everything
Speaker 1: that I've said in my life that I would do
Speaker 1: should come out of my mouth like whisping in a cloud.
Speaker 1: And it is Tower Cards and the coffee cup, readings
Speaker 1: and writing book and the Intuitive Eye, and even the military.
Speaker 1: There's a soldier an automatic rifle up there. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: there's dog tags floating in the air. Yes see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every time you look at you see something even more
Speaker 1: with your name on the dog tags. Yes, so much detail.
Speaker 1: I know, he really he took a lot of time
Speaker 1: on it. And what is the other side? What are
Speaker 1: you convinced of on the other side? So um, through
Speaker 1: all my readings, um, and it's very interesting. I stid
Speaker 1: a live event recently. We talked to Nidel and another medium,
Speaker 1: Connie Fasula from Fore Our Family. We did a live
Speaker 1: event in Florida, and I recently spoke about this because
Speaker 1: there was members in the audience that had asked that
Speaker 1: same question. And when we connect, we connect through evidence.
Speaker 1: So they explain, you know, who they were, kind of
Speaker 1: how their life was, They validate kind of their passing
Speaker 1: and in sometimes remarkable detail, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: is giving messages about things that are happening now in
Speaker 1: current time. And that piece, to me is so important
Speaker 1: as a medium because it relays the information that our
Speaker 1: loved ones are not being around in an unknown space,
Speaker 1: but they still have vision on how our lives are
Speaker 1: going and how we're doing, and they know that we missed.
Speaker 1: And so many messages come through with things that they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have known about, like a baby that's born that
Speaker 1: you know when they passed, the couple wasn't pregnant yet,
Speaker 1: and big events that happen in a family. But also
Speaker 1: they'll be very siscific, George, and they'll say someone passed recently,
Speaker 1: or that person passed before me, or this person met
Speaker 1: me on the other side. And it's interesting when I
Speaker 1: relay the information to the families because they do validate that,
Speaker 1: and they do say, my mom was you know, my
Speaker 1: mom passed before my dad. You know, they validate that piece.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they'll give me like because I'm clairvoyant, they'll
Speaker 1: stretch it looks like they're taking like a piece of
Speaker 1: gum and stretching it out for me, and it means
Speaker 1: that there's a long period of time between the mother
Speaker 1: and the father's passing, and for me, that's a decade
Speaker 1: or more. And I did a reading about a week
Speaker 1: or two ago when that was actually shown and they
Speaker 1: validated that was true, and it was actually like fifteen
Speaker 1: years between the person's mother and father passing, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of detailed in a way, but it's also important
Speaker 1: because in that span of time between the two parents passing,
Speaker 1: a lot happened in the family, A lot of changes
Speaker 1: happened in the family that somehow impacted the person I
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