WEBVTT - The Business of Love 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.040 What's up? Family? Is your girl to make a d 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.360 Mallory and is your boy and we are your host 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.079 of street politicians, the place with the streets and politics. Me, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.360 what's going on my son Lennon? You had a rough 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:25.200 few days? Yeah, it's a man. Well, let me just 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.760 say to you that the entire Street Politicians and until 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.760 Freedom family, we want to send our deepest, deepest condolences 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.920 to you and the Lennon family in this time of loss. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.640 Your mother, Patricia Lennon a very very very special woman 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.800 who I had the privilege of calling a friend and 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.920 getting to meet her at all of your functions, especially 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:56.360 Miriam Day, where we all learned about feisty Patricia. Uh. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.560 And she really has taken so many of us on 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:05.440 as her children, friends, sisters, um, and so over time, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.920 you know, I've learned how beautiful she is as a 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.679 woman in just such a strong, worried spirit. And it 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.080 also helps to give me a real close understanding of 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.200 who you are and how you came to be the 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.759 feisty man that sometimes you are. That gets on my nerves, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.600 but you know that's for a different show, um, And 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.720 so just want to say that we love you, we 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.000 support you, uh, and I know that this is not 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.640 a time that you know, it's even you can't even 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.959 understand it. You know, I hear people talk all the 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.720 time about when they lose their um parents. It is 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.600 you know, most undescribable. UM. But we as your village 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.600 will continue to be here to walk you through what 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.440 this new life looks like without your mom. And and 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.840 I think the last thing I'll say is that we know, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.960 at until Freedom particularly and also the street politicians family, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.680 we've watched you leave meetings, rooms, adjust schedules, have to 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.520 try not travel at times, um, you know, change things 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.600 around so that your schedule would accommodate you being there 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.720 to take care of your mom, being there to walk 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:20.200 her through these last very difficult two years of her life. UM. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.960 And we know that you know, even if sometimes it 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.760 doesn't feel that way to you, that you really showed 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.320 the rest of us what it's like to take care 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:33.040 of a parent when they are in need. So shout 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.320 out to you and salute to you for being a 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.480 star wars in your family in terms of taking care 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.160 of your mother and mom Patricia Lynn, Thank you man. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.040 It's not allowed to say, you know, I don't want 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.160 to get really emotional, but that was my favorite girl 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:57.359 to energy. The strength and belief she gave me about 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.799 myself in life, it is un watched and you know, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.440 watching her fight for the last two years with a strength, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.600 with a smile looking at me, you know, looking in 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.840 my eyes, just wanted me to know that she was 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.360 fighting was just something that was phenomenon. And I was 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.120 dere with her on our final moments, you know, and 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.080 I told how proud I was, and you know, I 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.640 couldn't ask for anything. I'm just happy and honored to 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.280 have been to still be her son. You know, I 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.799 hope that you know I did something that made up proud. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.240 You are sleep in peace. You make us all proud. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.360 You still a scrub, but you make us all proud. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.640 We love you. You know, we're going one thing about 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.120 Patricia's She always had a laugh, and so we're gonna 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.360 continue to make sure we keep it light for for 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.760 for you and for all of us. You know it 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.320 depth that makes me think about this whole idea of 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.640 elder care man and how we also as a part 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:06.240 of um Street politicians, we really and and just our 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.760 organizational efforts, we really gotta get people our age and 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.720 before our age to start thinking about taking care of 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:22.880 their parents. Because I learned even before Patricia was, you know, 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.119 got sick. I learned from my mother's experience that WHOA, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.640 we're not prepared, you know, we're not really ready for 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:38.120 what it takes to care for and all the things financially, emotionally, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.880 what happens if they need to live with you or 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.279 you gotta figure out how to be with them, what 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.239 happens at night when they're sick. It's so many things 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.960 that goes into taking care of your older loved one, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.880 and not to your parents, because you become the parent, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.320 and not to mention, there are not a lot of 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.479 resources out there to help you take care of them, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.800 you know, And so I learned that with my family. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.560 Thank God, my father is still here and able to 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.479 take care of my mother every day, which means that 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.839 the burden of that work is not on my sister 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.600 and my brother, my siblings and me, But yet and 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.719 still it wears and tears on him, like we really 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.360 should probably be doing even more, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.599 So it is really just watching you looking at what 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.400 happened in my situation and what continues to happen there 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.800 and just our friends and others who are trying to 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.040 care for their parents. We have to be more educated. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.480 Nobody ever taught us that, you know, nobody told us 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.960 what to do. We always was were the ones being 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.480 taken care of. It's a lot, man, it's it's it's 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:50.440 it's a heavy you know, it's a heavy um cross 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.520 to bear, you know what I think. But you want 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.080 to you know, I think we have children. I think 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.040 they had us. They said, you take care or your 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.919 children so eventually that they can take care of you. 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.680 And it was an honor for me, man, just to 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.400 be able to be somebody that she needed to, you know, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.479 to feel that she needed me. And I had to 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.760 come through for her all the time and be able 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.560 to have a smile and and know that when she 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.880 seen me there she felt safe. You know. Every time 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.320 I would be with her doctor's appointments, anything, no matter 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.280 what it was, she wanted me to be there because 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.960 she felt that she was safe every time I was there. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.880 And I remember being a kid, and you know what, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.520 you don't care what you're going through. You just want 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.599 to hold your mommy's hand, you know, your daddy's hand, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.000 because it made you feel safe. She would do that 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.680 to me, So I was just I was blessed to 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.680 there and be there for Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.880 it is a blessing and you're right, you know when 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.240 when my mom was in the hospital, we just picked 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.120 up and just jumped into it. Even if nobody ever 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.480 taught you, which we do need those that information. What 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.240 do you do about their finances and you know all 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.080 of that. But at the same time, I think it 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.680 is natural because you have learned from your parents. It's 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.800 like a spirit that gets in you that you want 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.120 to help them. You're gonna fight, You're gonna make sure 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.880 people take care of them properly. But I do think 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.240 that there's so much more to uncover um and and 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.040 break down in terms of what other steps that people 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.120 need to know, like what documents need to be signed, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.640 power of attorneys, you know, paper and shoot, these are 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.240 things people are like, what is the PO I didn't 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.840 even know what that was. I had no idea that 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.320 I needed a form so I could have the ability 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.480 to speak on my mother's behalf. I had no idea. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:42.120 You I thought, I'm my mother's child, that's it. This 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.640 is my mother's husband, my sister, this is my mother's daughter. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.360 That's it. It doesn't actually work that way, It really not. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.120 It doesn't not that it doesn't actually working with it 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.840 does not work that way. There are literal documents that 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.680 people have to have so that they can have conversations 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:05.280 with doesn't otherwise on behalf of parents. So the elder care, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.000 we're gonna get into that and make sure that we 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.000 cover and you know, in in memory of Patricia Lennon, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.400 we want to make sure we cover that and and 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.720 help people to know what do they do when their 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.440 parents is in distress. So again, R I p to 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.480 your mom and we love and support you so much. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.040 So there's so many things that's happening in the midst 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.680 of you know, you dealing with your situation. There is 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.800 um you know, the news, it doesn't and nothing stops. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:38.640 The cycle doesn't stop of craziness going on around us. Um. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.280 Just a couple of days ago, I saw a video 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.080 of the young people or I don't even know if 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.800 they were young, but they had nask and whatnot. So 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.600 I'm not gonna put this on young people, but some 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.520 folks who look like our people because their skin look 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.680 dark running into the Louis Vutton store, which is in 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.800 the mall that I frequent and actually I've been in 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.640 that Louis Vuitton store a million times. It's been there 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.600 for years. And they were doing a smashing grab and 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.319 I'm like, wow, this is still happening. Maybe the media 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.960 is not covering it as much, but it's still happening. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.280 I'm trying, you know, and I know that we all minds. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.680 We want to say, well, you know the system and 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 it's the sign of the times and whatever. But I'm like, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.960 I'm trying to figure out, how do we make that 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:32.040 stop before somebody gets killed? Because I saw the the 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.439 people doing the smashing grab, but there was staff members, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.560 clerks or you know, salespeople excuse me, who chased the 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:48.079 security guard stepped back. I watched this video. The security 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.560 guard got out of the way, but the sales people 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.679 followed and chase these folks around them all. I just 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.520 feel like, what if somebody would have fell down to escalated? 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.000 Like what happens if somebody gets harm? And it makes 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.960 me so scared every time. I could care less about 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.880 the bags, the shoes, the clothes or whatever, but the 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.920 like the life, whether it's the robber or the salesperson 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.400 or whatever. I just don't know where this ends. And 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.920 and it's easy for us to say, well, you just 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.679 gotta you know, they need to do better as inflation, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.800 because it is inflation, which is very serious, like people 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.560 can't even afford groceries, clothes, anything. But is it enough 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.840 that because there is the problem of inflation, that people 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.680 are now going out just deciding they're going to take 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.360 what they want. I don't think it's just inflation. I 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:47.520 think it's glamorization, right. I think when you go on Instagram, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:52.840 when you're going YouTube and everybody who is a status symbol, right, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.560 when everybody has on Louis Vuitton and they're saying this 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.920 Louis course this much and I got the Louis Is 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.200 and every song is talking about that, right, And you 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.800 you're you're something. You're from a community and from a 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.000 household where you can't afford that, right, So you you 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.480 feel like you need these things to validate you. You 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.840 have these things, and you are in the end crowd. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600 You you can be accepted. You can put it on Instagram, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.240 you can say look what I got. You know what 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.200 I'm saying. And I say that about most of these brands. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.520 These brands are status symbols. They're not because most people 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.360 don't buy these brands, be like, oh this just look 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.040 so dope, right you I watched Loui some of the 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.840 ugliest Louis Vuitton should I've ever seen, you know, some 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.199 of the ugliest goodies. Like it's some of the stuff 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.079 that people wear. You know, those Blissia can sneakers, they 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.959 look like orthopedic shoes. I just would never wear them. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.440 But people say, oh, they course a thousand dollars. And 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.839 these they got jenes that be so ugly that they 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.720 course a thousand dollars And they say, oh, these are 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.080 your marries. You don't they don't care you're looking like, damn, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.080 I just don't really look good. Like you look at 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.360 those boots that shout out to fact Joe that he 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.600 had a right and you look it said, I'm just 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.360 not gonna wear those, right, But they but they kind 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.040 and of course this amount of money. Now, you know, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.080 since people can go into these stores and they've seen 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.679 it happen on YouTube, they've seen a little smashup rap. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.200 People are taking their trial. Man, so that it's so serious. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.000 It's not like funny like it's really serious. I don't know. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.120 I mean, it scares the hell out of me. And 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.560 I think you write Instagram and all of that, it 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.160 does make it and I don't And listen, I'm not 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.680 wanting to tell people that they shouldn't wear their their 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.200 Pucci Tucci and Louis. That's fine with me. I support 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.280 it because I wear some of it as well. But 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.240 like this right here was like twenty nine dollars. Like 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:43.800 if you don't have to always have the highest brands, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.760 and you either have, you got a phenomenon of either 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.320 people buying fake stuff trying to keep up, or people 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.280 buying or people stealing in order to keep up. And 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.480 I just you know, like I said, I hope nobody 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.559 gets hurt. So listen. The last thing in our little 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.680 news segments it because you know, we try to do 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.520 a little bit of news on on street. Politician. Mass 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.880 mandates are being lifted in a lot of places, and 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.880 there's certain people that are bugged out, um who are 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.800 okay with that. And I say that I was really 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.959 talking about you, But I'll give you opportunity to tell 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.120 me how you think on your own, because I think 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.400 we should be wearing masks twenty four seven. Sometimes you 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.719 catch me, I'll be having my mask on in my car, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.840 which is kind of crazy, but and I mean, I 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.280 know that's a little bit extra, but I kind of 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.480 find myself trying to wear my mask as much as possible. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.760 And I don't always do it when I should, but 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.520 I try so. Now that the mandates are being lifted, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.439 people are gonna get even more laxed. Hopefully we have 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.000 passed the point of COVID being this big bad thing, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.199 and now we're getting to a point where we understand 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.120 we gotta live with it. We need to be healthy, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.120 we need to eat right, take care of ourselves. You've 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.839 got many people, especially but who are vulnerable, who are 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.800 vaccinated um and and hopefully that's the direction we're traveling in. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.920 But I can't lie and say that I don't feel 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.600 a little concerned that you've got people out here, a 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.640 lot of them nasty asses anyway, who won't have their 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.120 masks on. I think for me, the word man that 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.840 has always been the issue for me. Right, I think 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.320 people such as yourself who don't like to be around Germans. Right, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.640 you can get you can get a in ninety five mass, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.040 you can wear two mans, right, you can protect yourself. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.560 They have things that actually protect any level anybody else's 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.120 breath from getting to you. And that's that's something that 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.200 you shouldn't be able to do, right, and and and 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.640 those things. Just like when you walk in a restaurant, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.560 if you don't want somebody next to you, you can 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.680 move places. Right. There are people who have been traumatized 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.800 so much by the pandemic that they never want to 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.480 be around other people. Right, They're never going not wear 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.160 their masks. It's just a reality that we deal with. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.600 You know. For me personally, I don't see. I don't think. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.400 I think there are so many different you know, viruses 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.160 and diseases that that are as contagious and have can 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.240 have addive adverse effects that we've been living with without 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.600 mass for a long time. Everybody doesn't agree with that, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.960 And I understand some people think that they wanted They 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.120 feel that the mass is the most safest thing for them. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.000 And I think you can still wear masks. It's just 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.600 that it's not mandated, right. You know, everybody doesn't want 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.760 to wear masks. Everyone doesn't feel that they were quietly 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.440 wear masks. That's an individual's choice. I think when you 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.320 start when we live in America and you start taking 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.240 away individual's choice. You know, when the science and the 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:46.680 numbers show you that COVID is just as effective as 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.840 pretty much what do you mean? I mean, I don't 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.840 know what that means. Well, it affects people in a 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.480 manner that just about any other virus that we've ever had. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.760 It has the same It has the same, isn't I'm 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.560 just trying. I'm trying to explain something to you. At 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.240 the same mortality rate, it actually has lower mortality rates 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.000 than most viruses. What what are you talking about? Six 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920 hundred people died in months. But that's what I'm trying 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.480 to tell you. And if you look at more the 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.800 rate of mortality, right in the rate of something is 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.080 the amount of people who have been affected by something 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.360 in comparison to the amount of people who have recovered 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.160 and people who have actually died. Right, So, if you 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:38.560 look throughout any historical any virus that we've had, the 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:43.920 rate of mortality, the rate of recovery is pretty much 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.480 even to all of the viruses we had. This is 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.240 not so that I'm thinking, this is what the CDC says, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.440 This is what this the thing says you can challenge it. 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.840 So what I'm trying to say is the reason, and 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.920 that's the reason why the mandates are coming off, because 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.320 the science shows that it's safe enough to do so. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.920 And if you director said, she don't think we out 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.000 of the woods. But you know what, I don't even 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.159 know why I said that, because I don't even know 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.160 why I said that, because what they say every two days. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.719 So the situation is nobody knows. And you gotta make 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.920 yourself as safe as you you feel that you need 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.000 to be. You need to wear three masks. With three masks, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.200 you feel like you need to stay home and don't 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:31.080 go to indoor dining, don't do it. You know, people 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.640 just you make sure that you're comfortable in your safe anyway. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.920 So moving on, let me tell you about how we're 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.760 about to be done. We have talked way too long 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.880 already because our guests are ready to join, and we're 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.760 gonna have to go to them. My little thought of 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:52.320 the day was gonna be about Black Lives Matter donations, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.679 and I really wanted to talk about whether or not 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.800 all black people look the same. That was gonna be 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.640 my thought of the day, Like do people really think 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.679 that all of us are the same exact uh person right, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.680 because that's the ba all. Everybody looks the same. So 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.439 I wanted to break that down, but we don't have 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.760 time today because our guests are already waiting. I'm super excited. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.760 Let's go to this great conversation, um, and it's gonna 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.679 be actually two different conversations today with people that we 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:25.400 love that are just super dope. So mine we've got 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.720 friends as usual on on Street Politicians is a very 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.920 friendly place because we have such great friends that do 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.200 such incredible, incredible work and it's just super super super 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.600 super dope in the two individuals that we have today 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:48.480 are our friends, our dear dear brother and brother and sister. Um. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.399 I think you know as we it seems like we 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.080 try to do our one Valentine's Day show, and then 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.639 it was just so much more that we talked about 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.560 that needs to be covered about, not just people in 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.200 relations and ships. From a love perspective. We've been talking 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.119 about polyamorous relationship, We've been talking about traditional relationships, but 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.480 there's so much to be said about folks just working 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.000 together and being in a relationship. How much is too much? 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.040 How much time is too much? Time? To spend together. Uh, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.399 you know, how much is not enough? Like, you know, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.760 how do you really be a great helpmate? And I 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.080 think one of the things that um, Derek grades excuse me, 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:29.240 Derek Grace said in his interview was that his helpmate 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.160 has helped to really change his reality and helped him 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.679 to grow his business and his potential. That's one of 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.400 the things that you know, as I as I try 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.119 to find my husband, my king, that is one of 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.520 the things that I really want to make sure is 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.240 that we have we're invested in one another's growth from 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.960 a business perspective as well, because that's what I like 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:53.840 to do. I like to get my hands in and 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.160 I like to, you know, help to in any situation, 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.919 make whoever I'm working with, whoever I'm even with, loving 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.320 and or just good friends with help them to be better. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.160 And you helped me to be better. And I don't 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.560 know if enough people are invested in that. And so 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.879 I think that our next our guest, that they exemplify 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.399 what it is to support one another and to be 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:22.080 helpmates but also still carrying on a very very successful relationship. 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:27.719 So we are talking to Jay Morrison and Ernestine Johnson 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.600 Morrison the great. Um, let me just tell y'all quickly 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:40.399 about these two individuals separately, are really dynamic individuals. Um, Ernestine, 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.920 you are an actress, you are a filmmaker. You are 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.760 an incredible poet, which is how I was introduced to 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.640 your amazing talents. You're an entrepreneur, you're a mom, You're 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.399 so many things. You are so many different titles, your fashionista. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.760 And then Ja, who I've known for a long time. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.000 J and I have sort of grown over these lasts 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.199 I don't know, maybe ten years together, trying to find 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:14.440 our space in this quest to make our communities better, 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.320 to build, you know, a future for our children and 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.440 for generations to come. And so Jay is an educator. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.920 That's how I met Jay, teaching classes with a white boy. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.760 Give j a white boy, he could do anything. Um, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:34.240 a business mogul, a real estate expert. Uh, the founder 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.760 of the Tulsa Real Estate Fund, of which I am 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.679 also and you, my son, Um, we are invested in, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.080 we're partners of. Look, I always say it wrong and 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.240 Jay gets me right every time. So he's gonna fix 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.720 it when it's time for him to speak. A dad 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:56.199 of three beautiful beautiful women, their women and the baby 0:21:56.240 --> 0:22:00.240 girl because the big girls are women now from when 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.479 we first met to now, these are you know, our 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:07.280 our women. So you guys separately are amazing, but together 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:13.520 y'all are the dynamic duo, the powerhouse couple. So listen, guys, y'all, 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.520 these are our friends and we're ready to kick it 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:20.240 with y'all about the doing business as a couple. Yes, well, 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.920 thank you for having us, Thank you for that grand introduction, 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.800 Thank you sis, thank you street politicians. Man. We uh, 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.840 we're happy to be here. Yeah, I'm happy. So what's 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.960 the secrete? This is the secret to your success as 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.359 a couple of success as business people? Like what what 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.600 do you think is the core thing, like the major 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.959 things that you have to look for to have that 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.560 level of success. In both theories, I start by saying, 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.800 purpose alignment I think is really the secret and also 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.160 what we found as we're now going without a third year, 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.440 going our fourth year married, I think July four years 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:08.800 already four years wow. So um, also knowing that we 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.520 don't know everything, but we don't got it all figured 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.840 out and understand accepting that it is a journey, right, 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.399 and so we're constantly evolving as individuals, like spiritually and 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:21.520 business professionally. Um, obviously I'm a visionary, so I always 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.040 got different ideas and I want to be the best 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.800 CEO of our last name right, leader and visionary of 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.159 the family. I think just understand that we don't got 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.160 it all figured out, and that we're doing this thing 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.840 called life together and we're UM, so it's important for 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.359 me to make sure that I'm cleaving to her and 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.200 being patient as she's being patient with me. Is I'm 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.679 figuring myself out, still still growing as a person, as 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.199 a man, I don't even know fully what I'm supposed 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.159 to be all the way right, So I'm still figuring 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.159 that out. But she's still figuring herself out and momhood 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.040 for the first time and all that which is being 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.240 patient with each other as we figured out together. To 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.840 piggyback off what King Jay said, UM and my son, 0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.639 I don't think that there are any short set, So 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.600 if anyone out there things that there is a short cut, 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.159 there's not. Like I think that on top of what 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.400 King j said, the shortcut is the secret really is work, 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.760 Like it's really putting in the work, Like everything that 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.000 you want to do whether it's business, whether it's relationship, 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.439 it all takes work. There are no shortcuts. There is 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.639 no like secret mac magic potion that you can drink 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.720 and it just your blossom and you arrive. I think 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.080 everything takes work. And Jay and I are both very 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.320 intentional about we're working on ourselves individually. We're very intentional 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.560 about working on our marriage. We read books together, we 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.040 do marriage counseling together. Even when it's challenging, when it hurts, 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.439 when it's icky and sticky, um, we face it and 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.480 we've dissected and we do the work like we do 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.640 the work necessary to be the best versions of ourselves, 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.160 which in turns makes us the best version for each other. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.679 So I think the secret sauce, the short the shortcut 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.080 is just putting in the work, putting in the work. So, 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:53.560 you know what, I want to go backwards because I 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:58.040 remember when you talked about purpose alignment, Jay, that struck 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.320 for me and just reminded me of how you guys started. 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.520 Um where it seemed and I may be wrong, but 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.520 it seemed that Jay was you know, he was out 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.000 there like you know, the corner classes, the whole thing. 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.560 He was out traveling with his white board around with 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:20.600 the vision, and you seem to be very supportive of 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.920 that earnest scene, like as if you know, and and 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.159 then I would watch as we would be, you know, 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.840 out on the streets or watching you guys out around 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.959 the country, and you would come and and do poetry 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.560 during the middle of a street, you know, gathering of 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.800 people learning about financial security and what and and really 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.679 how we go from the block and the corner to 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.960 like sustainable communities, um and and you know, and you 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.480 found your your messaging was into twined. So it's that 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.160 kind of like what made y'all say, okay, this can 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.160 work because you guys were able to mess so well 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.800 in the very beginning when you were trying to like 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:03.720 figure out how to expand yes, I would absolutely say 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.159 that the connectivity in the beginning, that our purposes were 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.480 so aligned, the vision, the messaging was so aligned that 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.800 it made it easier for us to work together. It 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.080 made it easy for us to ligne because the vision 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.199 was the same, The vision was the same, the purpose 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.200 was the same. And although Jake may have had um 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.000 and his individual walk and I had my individual walk, 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.840 it was like when God brought us together, it was 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.840 like this is how you can take your individual vision 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.400 and purpose and your individual vision and purpose and combined 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.360 the two because they were almost like in the game, 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.240 and they went, they went hand in hand with each other. 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.960 M yeah, yeah. And I would say, like, um, we 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.120 often say and I grew up the same way you said, 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.920 used the term help me, right, And I've always thought 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:44.879 of it like that till a few years ago. Actually, 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.240 Ernestine's grandfather rest in Peace, Uh explained to us that 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.520 the Bible actually says help me. You read it, it 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.520 says if I to help meet because she used to 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.760 help you meet your vision and as I've been studying later, 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.800 and help you achieve your goals. Right. So God created 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.520 me and right depending on this perspective. But this term 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.280 helped me or helped me comes from the Bible really, 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.240 and it's is God created man, and he created a woman, 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.280 so the man was not alone, and God gave man 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.800 a purpose and a woman was help help that man 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.960 meet his purpose, right, and that man was to love 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.080 and sacrifice for that woman. And so I think like 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.919 as I was out when the corner classes, um, you know, 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:28.800 on your tail at protests and demonstrations all over the 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.960 country and just trying to offer myself of service to 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.480 our community. Um. You know, I was like in the 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.600 dating game, it was all about like what looks pretty 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.640 and what's fly and you know, all the physical attraction 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.960 and those things. And when I'm at Earnesty and it 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.000 was like great energy, great vibes. Um. And when I 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:47.920 did a corner class here in Atlanta, and I've seen 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.240 her like perform a Black Love and Dear Black Man, 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.280 and it was just something magical because it was like 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.440 she was in her own element and space. She wasn't 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.000 like trying to like be in my space, but with 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.560 her own talents and give they just complimented the exact 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.960 community repair that I want to try to you know, 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:09.600 contribute to or achieve. Um. And so yeah, I think 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.680 we have the alignment of purpose. As she said, it 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:14.119 just made it easier. I was like, look this so 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.600 right here that can in a different way, helped me 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.160 meet what I believe is my purpose and my goals. MS. 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.199 You know, I've been along this road with you guys, 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.840 you know, both of you my good friends. And you 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.879 know I've watched you when you started this relationship, watched 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.280 the evolution, was at your wedding, you know, seeing Yeah, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:42.320 bring forth a beautiful child together. Is there anything about 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:47.080 marriage that you thought before that has changed? Like how 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.880 long have you been married? Now? It will be four 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:54.320 years in July. Is there any ideologies of things or 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.520 just visions about marriage that you thought prior to being 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.760 married that have changed evolved? You were like, you know 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.080 they evolved? Was just changed, like, well, I thought this 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.760 was marriage? Was I thought this? So I thought that 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:12.120 has has a change for you anyway? Yeah, absolutely, I 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.560 can definitely say marriage is ever changing. I think it's 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.440 ever evolving. Um, I think I had an idea of 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.880 marriage in my head as a woman, like a little 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.280 bit of the fairy tale, not all the way, because 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.280 I'm not a fairytale person. I'm very realistic, but I 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.280 think there was a sector of the fairy tale marriage 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.320 and married life. What it what it looked like in 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.800 a little piece of it in my heart. And then 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.120 I think when you get into it, you realize these 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.200 are two different people from two different walks of life, 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.480 with different habits and kinks and corks and personality traits 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.760 that have now combined into one. And you don't think 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.360 about it that way. You're like, wow, like you have 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.680 to learn to live with this person in their behavior 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.440 and their traits in there and their their little habits, 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.200 and like get to learn this person. It's like it's 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.760 like becoming family. It's almost like if you were a 0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.280 brother or sister who had a sibling and then a 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:00.800 new sibling and at the home, it's like you have 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.600 to get to know this this person in your atmosphere. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.160 So I think you don't really think about it like 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.360 that when you when you think about marriage, But I 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.000 think now that I'm in it, I'm like, Okay, well 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.600 you have to learn this person. You have to grow 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.800 with this person, you have to evolve with this person. 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.720 This person has to evolve with you. And you know, 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.680 they say you change every seven years, but I feel 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.160 like we're always ever changing. I think we're changing daily. 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.160 So I think it's a it's a very serious commitment 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.800 to say I want to be on this journey with 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.080 you through the evolution, through the changes, through the personality changes, 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.520 through the behavioral traits. I want to be on this 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.680 journey with you. Yeah. And I think when I heard 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.840 Jane talking about, you know, because I was on the 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.360 dating uh whatever, on that trail with Jay two, we 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:46.160 watched a few no stuff happened, right, And you know 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.120 you talked about being attracted to a certain thing. It 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.240 was what the person looked like. But I'm sure that 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.320 it helped that when you saw Ernest and it was like, 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.200 she's dope, she's the poet, she got all this going on. 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.080 But that thing also be thinging back there because you 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.840 can't if not see it. It didn't just it doesn't 0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:21.600 disappear things. So so Mike don't know because my brothers 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.120 don't look right, man, I wouldn't. That's my sister. I've 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.520 never seen. All I ever seen was ernestin is facing 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:34.840 a smile to listen. Yeah, right. What y'all always say 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.160 is nobody wants the person that no one else wants. 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.520 Everybody want to look at their person and say, I know, 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.560 y'all know, I got a bad woman. So I'm sure 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.640 that was also a part of how you were like, Okay, 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.320 I found you. It seemed like at some point you 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.320 kind of find everything, like if you get satisfied in 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.200 so many different ways, it's almost like God's way of 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.840 being like I can give you what you need if 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:07.120 you would be open to receive it. Mhm, right, I 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.920 do agree with that, and I think like the beauty part. 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.960 I agree, Right, that's a foundational we all like you know, 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.800 I mean you want Tobo you attracted to, right, So 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.920 that's a foundational thing. That this thing. There's so much 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.080 of that out there, right, there's so much you know, 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.000 like it's going through the gram. It's like it's a 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.960 million girls that look good. But now we get the substance. 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.080 It's like I'm a substance person, so I can't do 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.200 shallow right. And then I come from the old school. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.040 I'm not like this new school thing of like we 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.920 just passed them around and everybody got who everybody's been with. 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.240 That's the cool thing, Like I don't want somebody to 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.840 everybody been like yo, that was that was a girl 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.120 last week and that was my girl, but she got 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.520 a bigger followers will be cool. Like I'm from, Like 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.600 I want somebody that everybody can't talk about, you know 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.280 what I'm saying. So a virtuous movement. So um, all 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:59.360 those things did like compiled to like, Okay, what does 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.840 like what do I need? What do I want? Like 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.280 to your point, what do I want? And then what 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.840 do I need? We're really kind of combination like for 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.240 for me, so it's like a lot of times as men, 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.560 we just said of what we want. I'm like, I said, 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.320 be thanking, and that's what I want and that's good enough, 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:16.959 but did not get down to like what do you 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:21.240 need though, so and and saying that right and correct 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:25.240 me of go wrong. But I remember that y'all well 0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:29.120 on this abstaining from having sex with each other? Right? 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.280 And how long was this process? Because I remember he 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.840 was like, well, we don't even that's you know, that's 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.960 not what we're doing. And I was like yeah, really, 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:39.960 Like I was really like, this is what I knew 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.720 that he was in love because I'm like, what ain't No, 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.920 this is spiritual. We love each other and we building 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.880 So tell me about that question. A lot of people, 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.600 I'm not done that. Yeah. I think that we were 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.640 both very adamant about you know, if you want something, 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.800 you never had to gonna do something you haven't done, 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:02.040 and I didn't. We both didn't want our relationship to 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.280 the basis the foundation to be based on sex because 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:06.800 like Jay said, you can get that anywhere and we 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.040 can all have sex, um. But I think we were 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.600 very intentional coming out of relationships. We wanted to find 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.680 something of substance and we were said, hey, let's substain 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.359 for ninety days and we did ninety days. We were 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:24.080 like like ninety days was a long day, long long time. 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:29.800 It was allowed, like they still doing that that last 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:34.440 like three days, like two more days were like. But 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.600 it was times cool because it was like, Okay, I 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.680 know you like if if sex fell off or you know, 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.640 God forbidden one of us can have sex anymore, would 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.279 we still have a connection And we do because the 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.759 spiritual connection to friendship connection. We got to know each 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.680 other without you know, sex um influencing our our whole 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.960 our whole relationships. I think it was a pretty cool thing. Uh. 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.719 And I know, like four men like to me, that 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.480 just seemed the whack of face value right like and 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.719 probably most of us in the culture right now. But 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.080 I don't think for me, like I don't want to 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.360 cut you up. You don't see what it just seems 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.560 like wow, like you know what I'm saying, Like why 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.000 because to come to that ideology, to come to that 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.239 point in your mind, like, it has to be a 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.279 lot of different factors, right, You gotta challenge yourself, You 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.160 gotta look at this person, you gotta actually like this person. 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.200 You gotta want to build, you gotta want to do 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.920 something that's so outside the norm. So when you when 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:35.839 you said that, I was like, okay, none, this is serious. Yeah, 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.440 maybe I think like it's easy to fall in lost 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.720 mm hmm. You feel me and so a lot of times. 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.000 And I know myself right, like I'm a scorpio, like 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.040 I can falling less quick, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.279 So it's easy to fall in us and thank you 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.279 in love. And I just was at such a high 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.120 frequency in my life at that time. It was like 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.879 I just I don't even want to risk that because 0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.600 you could have a lot of fun with somebody and 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.640 they know that's just your lock then, because y'all just 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.000 have so much fun, Like actually, actually it should cut buddy, 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.759 But like I just wanted to bring some different to 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.279 the table. It's like, so to your point, it was 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.040 like a wild thing. It's like, Yo, can I like 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.880 this person? And can I not get bored of this person? 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:19.440 If sex ain't will entertain us? M hm hm. But 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.120 so let me just ask this question as we go 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:26.680 to the business part. But bright reported, do you think 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:33.759 y'all were ready ready for what to get married? Yeah, 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.000 I do you were ready? Yeah, I think so. I 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:45.439 think that I think that having been married now, um, 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.480 I appreciate all accounts and that we did and like 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.959 the pre marrit work that we did. Um, I think 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.319 that we also could have dug deeper at the same time. 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.080 So is it is marriage hard or is it easy? 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:01.480 Be honest, it is marriage easy or hard? Because understand 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:05.040 is she got let me let me just see something. 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.480 Because being married, I understand that the dynamics of it, 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.040 and a lot of people will look at relationships right 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.960 and and and and since we live in the social 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.359 media error, right, they only see Jay and Ernestine when 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.560 they're perfect and they're loving each other and they're kissing 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.480 and they're hugging and they got the African golf and 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.120 then they're doing something like this is what the relationship is. Right, 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.359 So when they can see that, and then you if 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.040 you were able to tell them something that makes them realize, like, really, 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.440 we've gotta work because if this person is saying that, 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.239 then it gives me a different understanding of what I 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.880 have to do, how you have to go through marriage 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.920 and with the processes. So can you tell me what 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.600 do you do you think marriage is hard. I think 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.400 marriage is absolutely hard, but I think it's also like 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.920 any relationship I was talking about. I was talking with 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.279 this with my girlfriends having a girlfriend. It's a regular 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.239 batonic girlfriend. It's hard. So a marriage is definitely hard. 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.400 I think any too, humans to designed to be connected. 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.319 Any type of relationship is hard because it came you 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.840 have two different people from two different walks of life 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.120 aligning together and joining to build a ship, during to 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.479 build a relationship. So I definitely think marriage is hard. 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.400 I do agree with jay Um. I still I still 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.399 know that I was ready. I think we were ready, 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.239 and I know we were ready. I do agree with 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.080 Jay though we did a lot of work, like we 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.920 read this book his needs, her needs before we got married. 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.960 I read it together. We did it with our marriage coach, 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.120 We did all the marriage coaching and all that. But 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.440 I do agree that you could go deeper. But I 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.480 think you could always go deeper. Even if we went deeper, 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.319 there was still another layer of paper we could have 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.640 went from there, because again, you meet someone at thirty forty, 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.520 that's thirty or forty years of layers that you have 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.440 to break through. So I don't think the work is 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.359 ever deep enough. I think you need to go deep. 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.440 You need to ask each other the hard questions, the 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.480 religious questions, of spiritual questions, of finance questions, all your 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.200 sexual desire questions, like all of those things. I think 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:56.880 you have to dissect and break down when you were 0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.280 deciding you want to marry someone, because all these things 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.560 come up. Stuff comes up, and you don't even think 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.600 about you like, oh wow, I didn't I didn't even 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.439 think to even ask about this. So I definitely think, 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.839 I definitely know marriage is hard. It is. It is work. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.960 It is it's like a job. It's but it's a career. 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.600 It's not a job, but you clock in and clock 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.560 out his career and it's like you're an entrepreneur. You know, 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.200 entrepreneurs You never stopped. There is no clock out. So 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.360 married is like entrepreneurship at the at the highest level. 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.560 That's real. That's I was saying that when I called you, 0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.959 I said, I want to specifically know what it's like 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.520 when Jay decides that he's gonna do something and makes 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.319 decisions and then all of a sudden, you have to 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.960 become a part of trying to help deal with whatever 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:49.400 has happened, because lifting it ain't just they're like, hey, 0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.880 we're going to the story. No, it's listen, we're about 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.400 to start this and we're gonna be invested in this 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.120 for the lext ten years, so let's get it gone gone. 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.719 Let me tell you guys something. This is how I 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:01.719 know I meant to be Jay's wife. And j could 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.560 be crazy all he wants to, but there is not 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:09.759 many women who could stand here unwavering the way I 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.320 stand here unwavering because my husband is one. He's a 0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:18.719 Scorpio two. He is a freaking large visionary. When I 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.360 say the biggest efficient Jay has, and he knows that 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:22.839 he can do it, he's like, yeah, we're gonna we're 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.759 just gonna do this. It could be something astronomical. He's like, yeah, 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.120 we're just gonna go do it. We're gonna we're gonna 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.160 do it tomorrow. And everyone will be like, wait, wait 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.239 a minute, tomorrow, like we hold on, wait, we gotta 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.040 we gotta grab stuff we needs to and he's like, no, 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:34.680 we're doing it tomorrow. We're doing it next week. And 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.839 I'm like, okay, but we all just said we've all 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.720 been working diligently to go left. Now of a sudden 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.000 out of the clear blue. You want to go right, 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.759 but we've been working for the last eight months to 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.360 go left. I got all the preparation, the road map, everything, 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.319 and then he'd like, mom my spirit, God just told 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.359 me we're supposed to pull it right now. And I'm like, God, 0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.640 she I'll be telling you a lot because it's all 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:03.560 got told him. But I think that I know that 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.840 I'm equipped to stand with Ja because we have we 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.240 have been through so much already, positive things, negative things. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.239 We have been so much to where he Ja is 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.080 ever changing, and I think that's what comes. Like I've 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:17.960 been studying it late because I'm like, why is this 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.920 my huskin and saying or see a genius? And I 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.399 think if you study most geniuses and most visionaries, I mean, 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.400 if you maybe look at the ditties with Tyler Perry's, 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.400 I mean they're they're always getting broad ideas, big ideas, 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.239 and it's up to the team around them to either 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.239 to be on board with it or not. Because one 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.640 thing about Jay and true visionaries and leaders are gonna 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:39.960 do it anyway, and it is hard. We have literally 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.680 gotten to arguments and almost fights, Like, dude, you said 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:45.799 we were going left now, it's not going right. I 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.920 put my whole lot, I put my whole being and 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:52.239 body and and ingenuity and resources and relationship to going left, 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.000 and now you want to go right. And it's There's 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.320 been times where I'm like, oh my god, am I 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.840 cut out for this man in this big huge mind 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.080 and his big huge brain. And I remind myself, like, yes, 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.160 God put you here for a reason. There was a 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.680 very very specific assignment on this man's life. And there's 0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.799 a very specific assignment on your life. So you have 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.960 to run the storm, baby girl. And it always, it 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.600 always works out, but it's not always easy. Sometimes I 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.359 wanted this come upside the dog. Sometimes I just want 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.319 to oh, you know so? And in marriage, right, like 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.520 what I realized with people, it's hard, like being honest, 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.000 Like is it do you do you find the times 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.040 that you want to say things or you're thinking about things, 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.440 either sexual, just the way you things that have changed, 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.319 you don't like this anymore? Do you find it hard 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.759 to like have those conversations with each other because you 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.560 don't want to offend, you don't want to make them 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.759 feel bad? Is that a hard space for you, you you 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.080 guys to do? I would honestly say, I would give 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.160 us a nine and a half on the scale. Often 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.000 you know we've had we probably will discuss it year, 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.640 but you've had some of the toughest conversations of honesty 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:08.319 of like, yo, I'm here right now, I'm on this 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.799 right now, I'm believing that right We've had some very 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:16.480 very honest, tough, like real friend type conversations like y'all 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.239 need you know I mean, like, I don't need you 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.240 to be my cliche wife, I don't need the princess 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.560 fairy tale group Cinderella like, no, I need you to 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.759 be my friend right now. And I want to be 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.800 able to tell you what I would tell my homeboy, 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.720 like the same that conversation I would tell my man's 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.319 and then I want to be able to tell you 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.880 and you accept it as my truth as opposed to 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.200 me living in a lie and left vice versus for her. 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.440 So I think we've done an excellent job. And it's challenging, right, 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.279 you don't mean that work to come behind it and 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.560 all that, But I think we've done a pretty good 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.600 job out of all of our different components of marriage. 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.080 I think we like constantly bringing our truth and our 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.960 honesty to the table. And this seems like from the 0:43:56.000 --> 0:44:02.239 conversation with Derek Grayson his beautiful woman Elsie Um, what 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.440 we learned and what we keep hearing, at least me, 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.320 is that that honesty component is what actually is keeping 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.080 people going like it's the it is the work. It's 0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.439 deep digging enough to say, I have to be able 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.520 to tell you your idea is crazy. I don't like it. 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.839 It doesn't feel like this is gonna work. It's gonna 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.800 get us in this problem that we already were in before. 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.719 I'm not trying to break you down or you know. 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.279 And and that's difficult because when I think for us 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.560 as women, I don't know if you shared this earnest scene, 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:39.320 But for me in in in in my past relationship, 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.359 I wanted to just be supportive all the time. I 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.040 never wanted it to feel like I didn't believe in 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.279 whatever idea or whatever it was that um he came 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.040 up with. But then there was some stuff that just 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.959 felt like it was unrealistic. And one of the things 0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.880 that my mom told me one day is never wait 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.239 to say it until you blurt it out in the 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.200 moment of anger, sit down and have the conversation. But 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.080 that's hard because you you you need the anger is 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.399 your courage. You sometimes what I mean, so you can 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.279 so you can say, but but doing it calm and 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.560 when somebody isn't expecting it and feeling like, wow, you're 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.600 hitting me from left field, it's it's difficult. And I 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.840 another thing I'll say is that I also have felt 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:32.359 that my word wasn't value either because oh, I've done 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.360 this before and you don't know what you're doing. You 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.840 don't you know, I'm more experienced in this area. But 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:43.400 yet I could see a disaster coming. And sometimes I 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:47.840 feel like our men don't necessarily listen to us or 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:52.799 or or value what it is that we feel, or 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.120 the or the insight that we have. Do you think 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.120 the day that you do value what I mean? Know 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.880 you value what earnest and says, But you have there 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:02.480 been moments when you sat back and said, damn, I 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:05.799 really should have listened to her. A ton of moments, right. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.200 I think that's probably one of the one of the 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.440 large argument the largest argument points of our relationship is 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:16.960 has been that I and I still do what they understanding, like, um, 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.680 as a man, the head of the household, UM, you know, 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:25.280 my job is to uh, you know, protect and provide 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.440 and to make sure that like I'm leaving the family 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.520 forward and I'm responsible, accountable to God right for what 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:35.240 happens within the family. And so like I hear my 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:39.040 my wife, um, and I've tried to remind her that 0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.200 and am most people have all made right now just 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.400 because we don't do what y'all say does not mainly 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.879 don't hear y'all or don't value your advice. We take 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:52.120 the information, we assess the information, and then we do 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.560 what we feel that is the best thing to do. 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.239 Sometimes it's a whole run. Sometimes do what you want 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:03.480 to do, regard the day, what we feel is the 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.879 best thing to do right, which is the thing that 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.040 right we weren't doing that situation that we're guided to 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:13.200 do that situation. So we have to as family units 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.799 and a couple of units is understand Like it's like, 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.800 for instance, you can't put your best your best baseball 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.439 batter up and celebrating when we hit the home run 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.279 and a triple with a double, but then when you 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.759 strike out or you know what I mean, when you 0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:27.919 say your curdball coming, current ball coming, but he don't 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.160 think so he go with his gut and now he 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:31.840 strike out, and I was like, oh, I told you so, 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:41.200 right he I don't know han hand ray hand raid. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.640 Well we let the woman speak, Let the woman speak, 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:52.560 but yeah, but you know, just no, sorry, because here's 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:56.920 the thing we're saying that we can see that didn't 0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.799 work before either, Like we know, we're like, listen, this 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.319 is not the best swing for you. I have watched you. 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.759 I've studied your games. I've watched your moves. Like I 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.120 put it, I'm watching the tapes right so you you're 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.640 playing the game, you're moving, but I'm studying what's happening. 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.920 I'm watching out every time you go up to bed 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.080 and you get in that position. I'm the one that 0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.200 can see what the other team is saying and doing 0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:29.920 because they're preparing to create the same ship this time 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:39.480 that was that happened last time. So this is okay, okay, okay, 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.480 I want to pick you back off. Qing Toka. Yes, 0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.840 everything that she said, it is true. We either study 0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.640 the playbook, we know your moves. However, there's also something 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.920 else called discernment. Just like you know that you are 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:54.360 blessed with certain Hanily powers, women, we are blessed with discernment, 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.520 and I am blessed with triple discerpment and just passed 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.560 out for my mother if I get so, I've jay 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.239 those this and I've explained to him several times I 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.480 have been less with the gift up the sermons. So 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.160 sometimes I gives you the curveball coming, even if it's 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.360 not in the playbook. Even if I didn't study the 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.640 other team, I did, God or showed me that the 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.960 curveball was coming. So I think when you get to 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.239 a level of trust what your partner and understand your 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:19.680 partner's gift up the sermon, we should probably start following 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:26.560 that gift, just like I followed your gifts. M At 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.239 the end of the day, that is wonderful. I know 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.279 you have the sermon, I know you started to playbook. 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.440 I get all that, and I processed all that information. 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.640 And you have to ask yourself, is is my man 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.560 the the despite if he hits his head multiple times 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:46.960 or whatever, is he capable? Is he smart? Is he wise? 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.840 Even if he screws up and he's hard headed or 0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.080 doesn't listen to me or my discernment or my gifts 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.960 or whatever whatever whatever. At the end of the day 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.920 he preserves the right. He's earned the right because the 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.560 same man that will get up in the middle of 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.480 the night if there's somebody coming to the house and 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.960 sacrifice his life in the family, it's the same man 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:06.359 that to get up and go outside and make sure 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.799 everything's okay. It's the same man that I stand up 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.640 that he has earned the right to be able to 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.600 make that call and make a decision on regardless of 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.200 what the outcome is. Now, as men, we want to 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.960 always become more wiser and pay attention and look at 0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.759 that best counsel. We're always growing and evolving. But it 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:27.840 doesn't mean that we get some kind of like uh, 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:31.239 tarnish or some kind of blemish or some kind of 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:35.560 months of I told you so because you're right about 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.040 something to be decide to do opposite, Like you gotta 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.440 be in a trust your leader. It's it's a it's 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:46.360 a very slippery slope, you know, being in relationship, especially 0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:50.880 being in marriages, especially as men, we look for a 0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.360 level of belief from our wife, our wilds. Right, you 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.319 want your wife to believe in you. You want your 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:59.920 wife to give you this energy that that you can't lose. Right, 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.040 I remember when I used to watch Rocky and I 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.600 always say I would have never married Adrian. Adrian would 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.640 just never have been my wife. But every time Rocky 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.239 is about to fight, she like, you can't win. You 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.840 see you can't win you And that used to be like, 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.600 what kind of wife is that? But I don't want that. 0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.719 Right as man, we want to look at our wife 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.920 and said, listen, I'm about to go climbing that hill, 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.200 and you like you got it baby? What you need? 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:24.600 You need me to get some water, what you need 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.680 to do? You need to get on my shoulder, My 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.799 my man, gonna do it. And it's because when you 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.440 speak that energy into us, we can do anything. When 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.319 we look in your face and we see that you 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.200 believe in us, there's nothing in this world we're not 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.359 going to accomplish. So when when that, I think, when 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.960 you when you give you a man that and one 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.640 or two times you might come and say we'll be 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.880 maybe we shouldn't. I don't you know, I believe in anything, 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.680 you anything, but maybe we should try to not do 0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.040 this because something about this doesn't look right to me. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.440 It ain't about you but to me. So when you 0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.919 once you poured in him, to him that way he's 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:05.200 able to receive that, or hold hold on. Wife must 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.640 also hit some game for the queens, or say, Babe, 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.799 my discernment, my spirit I saw on the playbook. I 0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.520 don't think you should go with it, and we should 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.400 go with it that way, but it's your choice however 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.480 you rock. I'm rocking with you anyway, but I just 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.000 don't think that we should go that way because of 0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:22.399 how I feel inside or whatever you do. Baby, don't 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.239 rocking with you, because that's gonna make us feel like 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.040 you believe in me. But you've given me some just 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.799 it don't make us feel like you just don't believe, right, 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.120 And I gotta prove because the world don't believe in us. 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.239 We've we've we've been told by everybody in the world 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.359 that you're gonna lose. I came from jail. They said 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.239 you ain't gonna be nothing, You're gonna do this, and 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.279 I had to prove them wrong every time. So when 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.200 I start to sense a little bit of that in 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.759 my own home, it makes me feel like I gotta 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.239 prove to you too, like I gotta prove to everybody else. 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.120 And we don't want that. We always want to feel 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.239 like this is my favorite, my best seeming right. I 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.160 always want to feel like you. It's like when Jordan 0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.680 was on the court, it wasn't nobody like you don't 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:01.680 give one in the boat. That's why he was able 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.759 with every shots. Which when you see teams like watch 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:06.960 your Westbrook right, it's his confidence right now and in 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.200 his game, his confidence in media that made him feel 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.439 like he can't hear the shot. His team is looking 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.160 a little crazy when he does something wrong. Once that 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.680 confidence goes from you, it's a lot harder. So we 0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.319 know that we can't let our confidence be taken. So 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:25.520 have the have the ability and discernment to say this 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.080 message that I gotta give it to my husband. I 0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.080 just gotta give it to him in a way that 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.960 I know he's gonna know that I still believe in him. 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.399 But I just have a feeling in me, and then 0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.440 he's gonna want to trust me a little more. This 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.000 is a little bit of game. It's a little bit 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.600 I understand because that sounds it's it's a lot of work. 0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.759 That's as you said, it's a lot of work. And 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:53.400 I'm not sure that our brothers always understand our King's 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:58.399 always understand how much work it is because also were 0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:03.560 out of time. Um, I next, because I what I 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:06.120 wanted to also get into because I know you guys 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.239 are so vulnerable and transparent and everything that you are, 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:10.919 because it is what it is. If we can't learn 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.239 from one another, and what are we doing? And I 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.560 was gonna ask you to two questions, so maybe we'll 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.320 wrap this up this way, y'all talk about these two things. 0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:21.799 Number one is earnest and do you think that Jay 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.799 is as supportive of your career and your goals as 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.840 you are of his ideas, his goals and his things 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.520 like or is he so busy he can't always focus? 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:32.960 Because that's the thing too, write like it doesn't mean 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.439 you're a bad person, but if you've got a lot 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.200 going on, it's kind of hard. And often times I 0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.200 find that because I've been in relationship with a very 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:45.959 busy man who was extremely supportive financially and everything else. 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.480 But when I was trying to explain the whole story, 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:53.880 he was like, huh, like what happened? I lost you somewhere? 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:58.319 So that's one. And then too, the public critique that 0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:00.920 we are all like we deal at you day with 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.040 people attacking us, and this and that and the third 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.799 and it hurts, you know, to walk into a situation 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:12.279 anybody that gets in a relationship with my son Jay me. 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:17.279 Then the list goes on with all of us, right 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:21.719 of those people who are out here, Shaun King, you know, 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:25.640 you go on with the list, Ben crimp Lee, merit 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:30.080 the partner, y'all's wives and husband, they are going to 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:35.240 experience the pain of the brutal abuse that goes along 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.759 with that. So what has that been like? And then 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.000 I'm done? And then I got one more questions we 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.480 gotta go. I feel like I feel like we're gonna 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:45.319 need a part two for this, but I will start 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.720 with the first question you asked, is Jay as support 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:51.239 of my career as I am his? And I would 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.080 say this, So the answer is yes. But there's there, 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.560 there's there's two parts. So in the love languages, in 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.279 the Book of the Five Love of Laguatism, sure we're 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.120 all familiar worth of our thread. You know, people have 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:06.239 different love languages, and my love language is quality time 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:09.040 and words for words of affirmation. I knew that before 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.200 the book. I've always this that I've always known that 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:15.920 I'm attracted to so Jay is absolutely one percent supportive, um, 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.200 financially supportive, making sure stuff is lined up for me. 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.600 Like there have been times where I just want him 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.640 to be there, Like the entertainment seeing the acting world 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:27.319 is not really his world. So like he'll show up 0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.160 if he finds with that forever. I really want him to. 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:30.840 But like there have been times Whe'm like, I just 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.680 want you to be there, like, yeah, when you paid 0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:34.200 for it, I when you sent the driver. I know 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.560 we I'm straight, but like, I just want you to 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.000 be there. So there have been times so I'm like, 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.680 I just want you to present um in the moment 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.000 with me, but in his love languages, acts of servers. 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:45.400 So he's like, I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna serve 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.560 and make sure the stuff has done. So Ja's one 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.239 supportive of my career. Um, I just produced my own show, 0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.480 Petty Planes Court. He was there, he showed up, he 0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:55.920 was an extra in the audience. I don't know, I 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.560 don't know if you guys watched Petty Planes Court, but yes, 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.600 he was there in the courtroom. He's totally there and 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.640 showed up. So that made me really happy that he 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.520 was there. And yeah, he's he's extremely supportive of what 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.359 I of what I do. I think that I um, 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.960 as a woman, I'm so career driven, and I think 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.479 I wanted to add this to my answer earlier about 0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.919 what changes in marriage. Um, I am a very career 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:21.560 driven woman, and I didn't know how being married as 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:23.680 a woman and you when you're married to a powerful man, 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.919 it makes you getting your bad a little bit even more, 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.000 like it makes you like, okay, like I definitely gotta 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:30.840 go hard for my career because I worked so hard 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.080 to build this, whereas you know, I probably should have 0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:38.960 been thinking, okay, let me, let me, let me focus 0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:42.200 on being married instead of just focusing on the career. 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:45.320 Like I'm not focused because I've always been focused but prioritizing, 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.320 let me prioritize the family, let me prioritize my marriage. 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:51.800 But career driven women, we were always constantly thinking about 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.400 our our career and how to incorporate it into the 0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:56.959 family and everything else. So that's that's a whole another 0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:01.720 part two, um, part of your second question in the scrutiny, 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:06.440 the negativity, the comments, the and I know we all 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:10.240 have gone through it, but I think that what Jay 0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.920 and I have been through was a level I I 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.959 never really witnessed or seen and it was very hard 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:18.840 for me. I'll let Jane answer for himself, and I 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.200 think it was a little bit easier for him, but 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:22.200 it was very hard for me because I've never been 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.840 through anything like that. I mean, we we had attack 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.920 after attack after attack after and still do and I 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:30.200 had to go through the run of it pregnant, which 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.280 being pregnant already you feel like you're under atacked. Your 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.640 whole body is under attacked. You're birthing something really big 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.840 um as you know your mother Tomita. But going through 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.400 that pregnant, it made me fall into a very deep 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.360 depression and made me fall into a very deep depression 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.400 to where j and I purpose or what I thought 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:48.840 was my purpose started to disalign because I was like, 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.720 f this, F black people. I'm done with everybody. I 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.240 don't even want to do it. They can do what 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.280 they want to do, leave me alone. Like that's the 0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.480 mentality that was growing into because I was just like 0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.200 the same people that we are fighting for are the 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.160 people are the same people who were fighting us. I 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:06.640 was like, I'm gonna admit myself from the equation f everybody, 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:08.320 Like I'm out of here, I'm not dealing with this. 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.400 I was in a very very dark, dark, dark place 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.520 over all of the all the scrutiny that we went 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.040 through it, and God, thank you God that I made 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.480 it out of that and I burned my baby and 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:23.160 she was healthy. And because it was times during the 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:24.840 brunt of all of it, the height of all of it, 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:26.320 where I thought I wasn't gonna make it. I don't 0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:28.680 think my baby was gonna make it. I cried myself 0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.600 to sleep. I was depressed. I deleted my Instagram page 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.320 and turned off my comments. I'm just like, yo, like 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.040 these people are crazy, Like these are the same people 0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:40.600 that we are pulling love into and resources and education into, 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.520 and the same people who will put you on damn 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:45.880 crucifi like crucify you. And so that was very hard. 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.640 It's still very hard. And I think it also made 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.520 me just get more into my career. I'm like, a, alright, 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:53.640 col I'm gonna this acting thing and my my career, 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.360 my poetry, my speaking. I'm gonna pour all of that 0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.120 I was pouring into y'all. I'm gonna pour it into 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.320 my into me because I know that this is not 1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.760 going to fight me it's not gonna fight me back. 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.240 This loves me over here. You guys are not loving me. 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.520 So I'm gonna go over here where there's love being served. 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.680 Still and that Yeah, that was very hard. Go with 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:15.240 the love is being served. Go with the love is 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:22.120 being served. Yes, m hm ja. Yeah, I mean there's 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:28.000 something honestly answered it. Well. I mean my my perspective, um, 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:32.520 is my new perspective. It's really simple as a sinct 1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.439 is when we go through these attacks abuse you called 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:38.800 it right, Um, it's just confirmation at you in a 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:43.120 good company like I mean, you could go back through history, 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:49.160 every revolutionary person, every person that was a change agent 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:53.120 and all that, um have been through it. There's not 1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:56.120 been you know, we could go down names right from 1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:59.560 from recent day to President Obama to Malcolm X m 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:04.760 okay r V right, you chunk everybody. So Moses, uh, 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:07.240 you know what I'm saying, Joseph Jacob Aarond like Jesus 1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:09.760 call it so to me, it just means like you're 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:13.000 just a good company like you just got to accept that. Um, 1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:14.920 you know, that's the calling got put on your life 1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:17.280 and had you not been walking that call and you 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:19.640 took an easier route. You know, you wouldn't have been obedient, 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:22.400 and you know you would be in different kind of companies. 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:26.280 So I just I've learned and involved to to to 1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:28.280 to embrace it. And where does it write to passage 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:32.400 and a badger hunter? You said you have another question. 1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:34.440 Now I don't really have no other questions. Man, I 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:38.000 think you have pretty much summed it up. It was amazing. 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:40.920 You know, I've always be to your alone and we 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.200 and we and we build all the time. And I 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:45.880 love both of you. I love which you are, all 1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.480 of what you're grown into, I love what you represent, 1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:53.160 and we just appreciate you. Man. It's good to be 1:01:53.160 --> 1:01:55.840 able to talk talk to people who are all align 1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.560 the same purpose that you are. Man, you know because 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:01.240 we know that I've people with some people hard and 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.880 fightful and they trying, they're trying to shoot you while 1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:06.880 you trying to take the knife of the back. So 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:10.600 you know this is our calling, you know, Let's keep 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:14.320 me keep on winning man. The Morrison's yeah, one of 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:22.840 the couples do to the motto Morrison's thank you, thank 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:26.520 you guys for joining Street Politicians. Today's your first time 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:29.200 on the show together that you guys have to come 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.960 back separately because there's so much more that I think 1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:35.640 you can contribute to all of the conversations that we 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.320 have on this show. We love y'all, appreciate you all, 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:42.480 and kill babies the whole all of the children that 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:50.080 for me, I love you for having us. So I 1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:52.320 think you know that was a really good interview. I 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.400 knew that though, and I think we both know it. 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:57.800 And I think what happened was while we were talking 1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:02.680 to on Derek Grayson Elsie, in my mind, I was thinking, Wow, 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:05.760 there's so much more to explore, but we didn't have 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:08.080 two hours because we talked to them for a long time. 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.000 We didn't have two hours to stay in that conversation, 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:14.760 and it was really coming to me that, um, there 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:17.680 are other couples that we know that that working together 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:21.960 component is so important. I do think that this idea 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:27.200 of love and relationships, like everything else in our society, 1:03:27.440 --> 1:03:31.720 is evolving. That is also just the ideology and and 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:36.000 the path forward for like sustainable relationships. I don't know 1:03:36.240 --> 1:03:38.960 if I want to say it's changing, because I do 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:42.480 think the traditional ideas of marriage and love works for 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:47.320 a lot of people, but there has to be something more, uh, 1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:49.760 that we can do, like to be more honest or 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:52.200 whatever about where we are, so that we could keep 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:54.400 more black families together. And I know there are people 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.320 who probably say, why are they talking about this? But 1:03:57.360 --> 1:03:59.080 you know, first of all, we stay current. It is 1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:03.200 the love see is in um Black Love Black History Month. 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:08.520 But I see so many of my friends any as 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:12.120 single women out here trying to sort of navigate and 1:04:12.160 --> 1:04:16.000 figure it out. And I think oftentimes it's because we 1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:19.919 have been told something is supposed to be a certain way, 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:24.120 and when it's not that way, it throws off our 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.760 ability to be able to see a broader picture. So 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:30.480 I think you know understands saying Yo, it's hard, but 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:34.360 it's a career and it is work, you know. I 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:38.240 think that for me was probably the most powerful point. 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:42.960 I think, you know, just being married to understanding the dynamics, 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:47.800 understanding the ups, the downs and everything. I think when 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:50.000 you when you look at marriage, you have to view 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:55.080 it as a business, right like love can be a foundation, 1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:57.320 can be one of the foundations that is built on 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:00.080 It has to be built on communication, that has to 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:03.120 be built on respect. I think you have to have 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:06.800 a friendship, right and I think when you see real 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:10.680 friends do business properly, they're they're very they're able to 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:14.400 build together. Right, you can build on your own right, 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.360 and you can and you can meet business partners outside 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:20.880 of your own that once you've already established your building out, 1:05:20.920 --> 1:05:24.040 your business model and your structure, that you're able to 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:28.160 be successful. But it's almost impossible to be in a 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:31.600 marriage with someone where you're not equally yoked and you're 1:05:31.600 --> 1:05:34.640 not moving and you're not you're not building on a 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:38.240 business model and structure, like everything that we do is 1:05:38.280 --> 1:05:42.000 going to build and give our foundation stronger. Right, it's 1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:45.960 almost impossible to do that. Separate, you know, it's it's 1:05:46.000 --> 1:05:48.720 it's not so if you don't see that your marriage 1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:51.160 is a business and the mind state that your your 1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:55.040 spouse has, you know, you have to continue to encourage them. 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:58.960 You've got to support them emotionally, physically, financially. They've got 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:00.560 to be able to sleep good cause they've gotta be 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:02.960 able to think. They gotta be able to eat so 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:04.640 they can go to work so they can come back 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:07.720 in these bills. If you don't view your marriage as 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:10.160 in that manner, then there's no way for it to 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.000 actually prosper and so when you when you listen to 1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:16.160 both of those couples, even though one was polyamorous and 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:20.160 one was traditional, it's it's basically just the same thing, 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:24.680 right They both they both view understand how important it 1:06:24.720 --> 1:06:28.520 is for us to support each other, value each other, 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:32.040 and to build Jayson's all time. You know, we we 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:35.480 this is for our family's last name. Everything's gonna do 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:38.040 it for my family's last name. And if both people 1:06:38.120 --> 1:06:41.960 don't see that, then it's it's almost impossible to grow. Yeah, 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:46.080 So that's that, Um, you know, until next year. I mean, 1:06:46.120 --> 1:06:48.400 I'm sure because now it seems that this is such 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.840 a popular topic. We're gonna be talking to couples and 1:06:52.200 --> 1:06:55.479 people throughout the course of of you know, the year 1:06:55.880 --> 1:06:58.920 that come from different perspectives on how to keep maintaining 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:01.920 all types of relations ships. So that's a good thing. 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:07.400 But we're gonna shift gears and invite a yet another friend. 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:12.480 Tory actually has been with us before. Um My brother, 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:17.400 our brother, Tory Russell for the International Black Freedom Alliance 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:22.840 in Missouri and St. Louis where real black blackly black 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:28.400 black black people fight and do business and organizing everyday. 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.720 Tor is a freedom fighter. Um. He is one of 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:35.440 the leaders of the Ferguson movement that stood tall continues 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:39.520 to stand tall for um our falling brother, falling soldier, 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:44.480 Mike Brown Jr. And um And Also, you know, I 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:47.480 think the thing that that for Tori, that that is 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:52.200 most significant in my life is he is you, Tori, 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:57.040 because you're already here being an incredible strategist um And 1:07:57.040 --> 1:08:00.080 And how so many in the movement don't give you 1:08:00.200 --> 1:08:04.320 credit for being the think tank and the brains behind 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:07.200 a lot of things that we see out there. Because 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:09.680 if I say, oh, you know, I want to do this, 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.760 I want to move to Kentucky for Brianna Taylor, I 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:16.320 want to do these other things. It's really the conversations 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:19.679 with you where we process how it's gonna work, what's 1:08:19.720 --> 1:08:23.439 the pros and cons that helps to advance us forward. So, 1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:25.880 Tori Russell, we want to say thank you for joining 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:28.680 the Street Politicians for your second time. You are one 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.880 of the only people, maybe you and maybe two other 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:35.360 people who've been on our show more than once. So 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:42.120 there you go. Flavors. Yeah, feel feel privileged, King Black King. 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:49.639 So Tory, we want to talk about this whole crack 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:53.840 pipe pipe issue that we've been hearing about. And I 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:55.759 was thinking, I was like, Mice, who do you think 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.880 is the right person to come on to talk through? 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:04.240 Because it's it's not funny. It's not funny at all. 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:07.799 It's not funny, but it's hilarious. Like it's it's not funny, 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:12.800 but it's hilarious. How like everything we've been fight we 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:16.920 say we want right were don't said. We want voting 1:09:17.000 --> 1:09:22.400 rights to be secured. We want reparations, we want marijuana 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:26.840 legislation pass. We want people to free from prison. We 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:30.800 want political prisoners freed. We want our abortion rights. We 1:09:30.840 --> 1:09:33.920 want George Floyd Justice Police and Act. We want all 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:39.920 that in the racial justice context. But somehow what ends 1:09:40.000 --> 1:09:44.720 up coming to us is June Team holiday, and I 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:47.040 don't know some stuff. I'm not gonna say nothing because 1:09:47.600 --> 1:09:49.680 you know, somebody showed me the other day. The administration 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:52.240 done a few things here and then, and whether you 1:09:52.280 --> 1:09:55.360 want to I know, but if whether you want to 1:09:55.360 --> 1:09:58.240 believe it or not, the Infrastructure Bill has some important 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.639 things in it terms of people get back to work. 1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:06.280 And now you have the drug or the what is 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:10.320 it harm reduction strategy, which is an important thing. But 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:13.880 like my son said, what did you say, Mike, It 1:10:13.920 --> 1:10:20.800 ain't what we asked for. Joe. When you go, come on, Joe, 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:27.200 it's like Tory tell me, like you you're watching you 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:30.439 to you on the internet. You're scrolling down, you know, 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:35.960 and you see the Joe Boden approves the distribution of 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:41.400 crack pipes and paraphernalia and drug paraphernalia for racial equity 1:10:41.439 --> 1:10:45.360 and any any say it in the interests of racial equity. 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:53.120 Like what do you think at that moment he playing 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:57.080 in our face, he keeps planing our face. Fam It's like, 1:10:57.360 --> 1:11:00.720 you know, let my people go. You know how you're 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:03.960 gonna give us the crack pipe without freeing the crack dealer. 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:06.760 You know what I'm saying. You know, my cousin, I'm 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:08.960 still locked up behind some loss that you put in 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:12.360 place where they at um if you can give out 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:15.960 crack pipes or paraphernalia or horm reduction because you know, 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:19.760 Neil Liberal's like to talk about horm reduction, why are 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:22.519 you being horn you know, like less harm is okay, 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:25.280 I want all the horn gone you So it's like 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:29.240 you can have sent a big mama, uh, some free 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:32.200 incident for that kind of budget there's a lot of 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:34.639 people come on out now if you're gonna give that out, 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:37.200 And what about the incident? What about some things that 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:40.519 I know in my community we need um. And even 1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:43.080 when we talk about like Junior Team, you know, before 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:46.760 Junior Team they came kneeling with KNTE cloths. UM. So 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:49.760 all we get a symbolism and not substance um. You know, 1:11:49.880 --> 1:11:52.080 And that's the problem. You know, what's the point of 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:54.599 putting Harry telling on my engine or on some dollars 1:11:54.920 --> 1:11:57.920 and they ain't gonna be in black people pockets? You 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:01.240 know what's interesting if we you say, the insulin and 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:05.439 other things like that, what immediately hit me is, first 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.240 of all, I do believe in harm reduction. I do 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:13.360 believe that. I understand that there are people who use 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:17.120 drugs who are out here spreading disease, and there is 1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:20.599 a need to have safe housing where once you get them. 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:23.200 I guess the point of safe housing this if we 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:26.599 can draw them here and letting them know that there's 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:28.880 a safe place, we can keep them cleaned up and 1:12:29.000 --> 1:12:31.439 hopefully get them the help that they need and get 1:12:31.479 --> 1:12:34.240 them back into society. I'm with all of that, but 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:38.800 yet and still that's a small segment of the population. 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:42.760 I not walk in my family. There are not ten 1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:46.960 people on crack and you know in one one, one 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:50.080 area or whatever. Right, it's not That's just not my 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:53.559 that's not our situation. So why do I need more 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:56.280 focus on that than I do the fact that I 1:12:56.400 --> 1:12:59.920 know I have at least twenty people who have diabetes 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:08.360 heart issues, and yeah, and I think for me, you know, 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:11.040 just going through this situation that I just went through 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:16.519 with my mother and just watching how resources are so 1:13:16.800 --> 1:13:20.360 scarce for people who are actually dying, like from diseases 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:24.040 like cancer, Like you know, medication was CosIng like three 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:28.600 hundred dollars and immediately when she was sick, they was 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.640 trying to take away her insurance, you know, so I 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:35.840 had to physically by medication that she needed for three 1:13:35.960 --> 1:13:38.760 hundred dollars every time I was going to the doctor. Right. 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:41.200 But you can give out crack pipes, but you can't 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:44.880 give this medication to people who are eternally ill, this this, 1:13:45.120 --> 1:13:48.040 and all they need is certain things to just to 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:50.439 make them comfortable. You don't want to you you don't 1:13:50.479 --> 1:13:53.040 want to make people that you know eternally ill comfortable, 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:54.920 But you want to give us crack pipes, and you 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:57.040 want to give us safe havens place that you can 1:13:57.120 --> 1:14:01.240 go and and and put insulin and put them heroinness 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:03.360 side veins and all these things. And it's just like 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:05.960 what do you what are you actually trying to say 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.320 to us? Like what what what are we thinking that 1:14:08.479 --> 1:14:11.200 we don't see that when people are not outraged by this, 1:14:11.360 --> 1:14:14.000 when we're not sitting here saying yo, this has gotta stop. 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:17.559 When when our voices are not loud at these times, 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.759 what is it actually saying? What are we saying? Mhm? 1:14:22.400 --> 1:14:24.640 You know, as I look at I said, was like 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:29.240 like I get harm reduction too, you know, but you 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:36.840 know what more addictive um than crack sugar? Right? Food? 1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:40.920 So harm reduction would look like putting some grocery stores 1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:44.400 in the hood, look like gardens and forms in the hood, 1:14:44.800 --> 1:14:47.439 look like some healthy food choices. I mean, if we're 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:51.680 gonna talk about horm reduction UM and being healthier, then 1:14:52.000 --> 1:14:54.960 you know, the school launcher should look like something UM 1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.479 that I would actually buy on with my own money. 1:14:57.479 --> 1:15:00.800 And that's the problem. It's like they don't think about that. 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:02.560 I don't know who in the White House, you know, 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:05.000 we might wanna Uh, you know, I don't know what 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:07.400 Samone doing in the back that Simone might want to 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:10.960 tap him on the shoulder and be like, yeah, Simon 1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:16.719 is no longer the white Okay. So you know that's 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:21.040 the thing. Maybe it ain't enough connected to the struggle. 1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:25.280 Maybe maybe that's the biggest problem. I think it's that too. 1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:28.200 And I think a lot of them got in these 1:15:28.320 --> 1:15:31.439 rooms and realize, oh, these people ain't trying to change nothing, 1:15:32.040 --> 1:15:34.160 you know what I'm saying me standing next to him. Eventually, 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:37.360 I'm just I'm just a token black, you know. So 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:42.240 I think our our approach to the system has to 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:45.640 be different, right, I approached to it has to be 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:53.960 very intentional. Like everything that we do have to be intentional. 1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:57.599 We gotta say this is exactly what we want. We're 1:15:57.640 --> 1:16:01.599 not doing nothing else until we get this, and if 1:16:01.640 --> 1:16:03.920 we don't get this, we're willing to do this like 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:07.120 this has it has to be very serious because I think, 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:10.120 you know, watching playing this political game that they're playing, 1:16:10.200 --> 1:16:12.400 all the Damns want to do this, but the Republicans 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:14.960 don't want to do it. Okay, the Republicans aren't gonna 1:16:15.000 --> 1:16:17.599 do it. One mom boom, then we get a republican thing, 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:19.720 and then they give you one tempt for what you do. 1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:22.120 And then they say, look we did we tried to 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.240 help you. Look the damns they want to do nothing, 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:25.880 but no, the damn's wanted to get this done. And 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:27.960 you knew they wasn't. You wasn't trying to free us. 1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:30.200 So you said, we're gonna let three people go and 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:32.120 we're still gonna keep the million people. And the three 1:16:32.160 --> 1:16:34.640 people gonna say, well, he let me go. You know 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:36.360 what I'm saying, Look look what he did for me, 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:41.320 the three people. What I'm saying, But you ignore that 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:44.160 Obama was trying to give retroactive laws that would have 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.280 freed all the people. And then y'all said absolutely not. 1:16:47.680 --> 1:16:49.840 And then y'all let ten people go, and they said, look, Trump, 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:52.320 let the people go. Oh why mayn't let nobody go? 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:55.840 Because they play this game. It's a game that everybody's 1:16:55.880 --> 1:16:58.200 playing it, and we gotta be tired of playing the game. 1:16:59.280 --> 1:17:01.720 I think ain't the only solutions. And this go back 1:17:01.760 --> 1:17:05.559 from Fergus and the Baltimore to us pulling up in Louisville, 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:09.519 Kentucky kind of chopping it up, seeing um with Daniel 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:14.520 Cameron and something, even the white so called Allied Democrats 1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:18.040 and people on the City Council. It's like for black people, 1:17:18.120 --> 1:17:21.040 we need three full steps and it ain't it ain't 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:26.040 there this first and foremost, the activists, advocates organizes, the 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:30.240 community leaders, and those people who are reluctant leaders. We 1:17:30.360 --> 1:17:32.920 need to band together and get them to run. We 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:36.760 need um, you know, we need less really and I'm 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:38.640 just you know, I gotta call it like it is. 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:42.559 We need less Corey Booker Democrats, and we need more 1:17:43.280 --> 1:17:46.879 Gary Chamber of Democrats. I mean, we need some centators 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:50.200 that's gonna speak their mind. You did it wrong, you 1:17:50.320 --> 1:17:55.720 did it wrong. We need less Corey Book of Democrats. 1:17:56.080 --> 1:18:03.240 And listen, the thing is, the thing is and Corey 1:18:03.520 --> 1:18:07.320 Corey my my, you know, see my congresswoman. So you 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:10.479 know one is Gary going to he want to go 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:13.240 to the Senate and Corey is in the in the House. 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.800 So we need both. It's not good enough to have 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:20.360 them just one and the other. Because you know, it's 1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:23.080 a thing about the Congressional Black Caucus for black people. 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:25.800 We have to you know, not flip people and flip 1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:29.519 seats from Democratic Republican or its move people. We need 1:18:29.640 --> 1:18:32.000 to remove some of these House negros in the Congressional 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:35.639 Black Caucus. And so that's our first issue. Our second 1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:38.320 issue is a black agenda. And so what my sign 1:18:38.439 --> 1:18:41.200 is talking about is, yeah, you know, it's it's not 1:18:41.439 --> 1:18:45.400 enough to have you know, simone of Karen Pierre and 1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:48.160 other people going there and being one black person in 1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:51.559 the room talking to Kamala talking to Biden. We need 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:53.439 some black people to say, look, this is what the 1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:55.920 agenda is, and we have to shout it out. Shout 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:59.280 out to ice Q for being more politically correct than 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:03.679 most Apple political leaders and pundence on TV while everyone's 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:06.040 shotting them down, he was saying, let's sit down with 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:08.120 both sides and see who can get the best deal 1:19:08.520 --> 1:19:10.840 from ice Q to kill a Mike. And then third, 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:13.840 if if, if we can't get our people in, UM, 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:15.559 if they want to kind of go against like they 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:18.000 did Charles Booker at hand, the right white girl run 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:20.000 against him in the primary, and now he can't get 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:22.640 in and we can't get our black agenda, listen to 1:19:22.760 --> 1:19:26.160 the black people locally, UM in districts all across the country. 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:28.720 We need our own political party. So I see the 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:30.760 things that West talking about and see the things that 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:34.800 did he doing. But we need our own black political party, 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:38.200 funded by everybody, on our one agenda and run this thing, 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:41.000 not only not when it shiny. Now when we're talking 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:43.519 about the president or the Senate of the Congress, we're 1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:45.960 talking about mayors, we're talking about governors, we're talking about 1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:48.439 attorney generals. But we also talking about city councils and 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:52.160 school boards. And so we can debate about critical race 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.320 theory is this and that, But if we run the 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:57.680 school board, we can teach the real history. And it 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:01.000 ain't gonna be um that it started um in eighteen 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:03.519 sixty or that black people didn't do this. We're gonna 1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:07.040 see the whole history from Africa all the way to today. Yeah. No, 1:20:07.240 --> 1:20:11.360 I agree with you, and I think that there is 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:16.360 a need for um an entire shift in focus that 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:19.880 in terms of where our movement is in general, I 1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:23.720 think we've gotten so caught up in who got what, 1:20:24.200 --> 1:20:29.919 who looked like this, you know who, who's close to Biden, 1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:33.599 who can get a meeting, who can't, that we sort 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:36.880 of have lost the point that all of us are 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:39.439 in the same struggle, even if you got a little 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:42.360 extra few dollars in your pocket. You still can be 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:46.439 a rich dead negro. Your child can be killed on 1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:51.840 the way to the basketball game at Harvard or wherever else. 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:58.680 And guess what, what is even more likely and frequently 1:20:58.840 --> 1:21:02.160 happening is that while you may not be shot down 1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:08.599 by a bullet, there is a a destruction of our 1:21:08.880 --> 1:21:12.559 minds based upon the aggression that we have to deal 1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:16.000 with every day. Uh, the idea that you have to 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:19.360 go to work and be something that you are not 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:24.280 just so that you can make master happy, right, make 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:27.960 masters stay off your back. That is killing us, probably 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:31.840 at a far more a far higher rate than just 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:35.600 being shot and killed by a police officer or you know, 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:40.240 or something so graphic. And so I agree that at 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:42.720 this point there has to be a refocus, and I 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:47.599 support a thousand percent what West and Um and uh 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:51.160 Ditty and others are doing to try to put the 1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:54.280 pieces together of what our own party would look like. 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:56.960 And I've been saying over and over it may not 1:21:57.120 --> 1:22:00.600 start with us having our own can' the dits and 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:04.400 and leaving the system. It may start with us, of course, 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:06.120 having our own candice. But you know what I mean, 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:10.559 We're not running totally on a separate political line right 1:22:10.640 --> 1:22:15.920 on one ticket like an independent situation. Right, we may 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:18.840 have to grow to that, but when we start out 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:22.439 with the basic agenda where again to your point about 1:22:22.439 --> 1:22:24.200 ice Cube, because I've been saying it over and over, 1:22:24.479 --> 1:22:27.719 I don't think that ice Cube was wrong at all, period, 1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:30.720 not at all. We all support and agree with what 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:33.400 he was saying and what needs to be done. What 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:37.800 we said was the timing of this is off because 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:41.360 we are now talking to Lucifer and his cousin. Right, 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:44.720 We're in a situation here where this is a very 1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:47.439 it's a very difficult thing because no matter what you 1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:50.120 could say, Trump, I don't care, you know, we we 1:22:50.280 --> 1:22:54.040 want Trump, we want well, we'll take Trump. That's what somebody. 1:22:54.080 --> 1:22:56.240 People say. They don't say they want them. Most people 1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:58.559 they say, we'll take it. It all looks the same. 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:02.280 It actually doesn't of the same because the policies that 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:07.240 are being presenting by this administration, whether it actually gets done, 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:10.200 whether we which we don't with half the ship that 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:13.720 they do. But nonetheless it looks very different. What the 1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:17.600 Democrats are, their agenda is and what they're fighting for, 1:23:18.080 --> 1:23:21.200 then what they are doing on the conservative side, on 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:24.040 the Republican side, if you look at what just happened 1:23:24.040 --> 1:23:28.000 in Alabama with the regis districting laws, where the Supreme 1:23:28.080 --> 1:23:32.880 Court has upheld their right to go and redraw the 1:23:33.040 --> 1:23:36.840 districts in Alabama which will draw out black folds. Those 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:41.439 are conservative strategies that will ultimately allow them to take 1:23:41.520 --> 1:23:44.720 over this nation and do and fascism become at its 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.800 at its strongest right. So we know that. So my 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:51.280 position with ice Cube was, my brother, let me help 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:55.200 you first of all. And now when we got twenty 1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:59.720 nine eleven people running for Democratic nomination, this is the 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:03.439 perfect time to slam them all and say what you got? 1:24:04.360 --> 1:24:06.600 What's her name? Mary? And Williamson? Because that's who I like. 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:09.920 But but I was, I was, I was, I was, 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:14.320 you know obviously with um what's her name? Elizabeth Warren? 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:16.519 A little bit, Burnie a little bit. You know, we 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:23.160 was up and there, but we were, we was courting. 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:27.000 We need it. We need to just not nothing's wrong 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:33.520 with ice Cube, anybody happen. We have to up our strategy. 1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:38.160 We gotta up our strategic game. Yes, we know now 1:24:38.320 --> 1:24:40.760 what we want to demand, we know how to make 1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:44.000 the demand. We know our power. But now we gotta 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:45.920 get focused, like they are so we can get on 1:24:46.000 --> 1:24:50.160 a real timeline of when to strike, and the time 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:53.439 to strike is when we can actually scare even the 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.600 Republican side because now they know we got options and 1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.040 our people are focused on the fact that we're gonna 1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:02.000 choose not just Joe Biden who thinks he's our friend. 1:25:02.479 --> 1:25:06.000 Fuck Joe Biden. Fuck Clyburne telling us that we gotta 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.880 go with Joe Biden. Were the people decided we were 1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:11.599 Boom boom boom, boom boom. So I'm just saying all 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:14.000 of that. I know I'm talking long, but it's so 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:19.280 much too undressed in order to get us to where 1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:22.400 we're going. And I personally think we're actually getting there 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:25.160 because people are now sitting back saying, wait, what the 1:25:25.200 --> 1:25:29.840 hell happens? Yeah, how do we get here? How we 1:25:29.960 --> 1:25:35.480 how we get to Biden and Climb Brown talking about uh, well, reparations, 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.000 who need that? Like you know, like what you black, sir, 1:25:38.439 --> 1:25:41.519 You ain't gonna answer. You're in the deep south of 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:44.280 you in South Carolina. You're in a corridor, shame family. 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:48.160 So it's it's it's pragmatic, but at the same time, 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:50.640 you know me, I'm for I'm for black people are 1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:54.240 coming together when gotta breathe. We gotta have different tactics 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:57.000 and strategies, but we gotta come together and have some 1:25:57.280 --> 1:26:00.599 unification on what we're gonna do and how we're gonna 1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:03.880 operate with one enough if some people, I'm probably more 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.519 you know, wrap and then I like it that, but 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.000 other people might not take it that way. But we 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:12.240 do have agreement on that. Big Mama should have our instant. 1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:15.479 We have agreement on it. Everybody should have mass. We 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:18.559 do have agreement on the the curriculum in my school 1:26:18.800 --> 1:26:22.000 be an early childhood K through twelve or the HPCU 1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:24.640 should be fully funded and they should be teaching us 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:27.800 the truth right. And we have some unified ways that 1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:31.120 we can connect. But this secular thing or like you said, 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:33.600 if ice you would have you know, when we was 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:35.479 trying to hit him up, if you would have hit 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:37.280 us up and say, hey, look, I said, bro, you 1:26:37.320 --> 1:26:41.360 about five or six months off, okay, but love it 1:26:41.479 --> 1:26:43.280 you're a little off, sir. I don't know if he 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:45.519 was in the back on the yard or making another 1:26:45.720 --> 1:26:51.360 you know, movie or something out. Yeah, and then us 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:53.960 and so this the thing is, like you said, I'm 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:56.679 not really a classes person in that way, I understand 1:26:56.720 --> 1:26:59.559 that any Negro from any class can sell you out. 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.280 I didn't poor negro sell you out. I've seen rich 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:05.280 Niggas sell you out. But I've seen Richard Niggas get 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:07.240 me out of jail, and I've seen Richard Niggas come 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:09.759 down to the ground. So we just need to unify 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:14.160 effort between the rappers, the actors, um, the techies, the educators, 1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:17.080 the activists and advocates, and the lobbyists to come together, 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:20.840 have one conference, bang this out, spread the money around 1:27:21.000 --> 1:27:23.920 so people can get everybody in our community. Because we're 1:27:23.960 --> 1:27:26.760 building black agymnas and I get it. But unless we 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:30.000 have the resources and the platform shure to take it 1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:32.840 to the people in the projects and and you know, 1:27:32.920 --> 1:27:35.200 in the public housing and why they're working at the 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.920 at the at the job, then we are never gonna 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:39.640 get it to the masters of people to even get 1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:42.160 a voting block to do what we did in Georgia. 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:45.840 Just imagine what Georgia could be if we was moving 1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:49.760 that block for Stacy Aprims or for candidate they say, look, 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:52.519 my number one thing I'm running for is reparations for 1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:54.960 black people. All My number one thing is I'm not 1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:57.240 gonna go for tip, you know, tip for tattle, go 1:27:57.360 --> 1:28:01.120 for symbolism. I need some concrete we get done. It's 1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:03.880 some districts that's doing some of that, but I think 1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:06.400 the connections are not doing So I think that's our 1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:08.640 job is moving leaders, and we're not to do that. 1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:12.920 The phone for well, I know, I know we're doing this. 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:19.000 The National black On Political Convention in Newark. This cream 1:28:19.120 --> 1:28:21.920 coming up. So it's it's it's geared towards that. It's 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:25.280 um gonna be Chokeway is gonna be one of the 1:28:25.360 --> 1:28:30.879 sponsors of it, him and maybe Rock So it's it's Baca, 1:28:31.000 --> 1:28:34.120 I apologize, Ma Brocka. So well, I'm gonna I wanna 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:36.960 complain a committee for that now. So I think that's 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:39.160 gonna be something that everybody. I think that's one of 1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:41.680 the major discussions, like how do we move forward, how 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.160 do we unify, how do we get one agenda, how 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:47.000 do we get one motion, how do we get like 1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:50.720 this like the ocean, move like the ocean to get 1:28:50.720 --> 1:28:54.040 where we need to go. Man, So these conversations are needed. Man, 1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:57.519 we definitely not think I feel like these conversations in 1:28:57.640 --> 1:29:02.000 public and many black On from BNC, from Revoked TV 1:29:02.200 --> 1:29:07.240 to to everybody from breakfast club, everybody having these conversations. 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:09.559 If we have the conversations in the back room when 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:11.720 we come out in public, then that's the only thing 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.000 that we can talk about is what we're talking about 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:16.840 in our agenda. And I cele bring anybody to try 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:21.160 to hold the Democrats or Republicans responsible because both of them, 1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:23.840 you know, they're just two different brands and white supremacy. 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:27.800 Most of them are not Corey Bush. They ain't gonna 1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:31.080 be Ayana Presley, They're not gonna be Gary Chamber. And 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:33.800 so until we get the majority of the Congressional Black 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:38.040 Caucus to do with uh, you know, mansion and cinema 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:42.840 doing for for white supremacists, When the Congressional Black Caucus 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:46.240 want to set down the country for reparations for health care, 1:29:46.320 --> 1:29:49.360 for education and h C for the so and so forth, 1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:51.880 then we have something strong. And until the end, we're 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:54.599 gonna use our platforms, we're gonna use our social media, 1:29:54.600 --> 1:29:56.719 and we're gonna door knock and get to the people. 1:29:58.000 --> 1:30:01.160 Well that's all there is to be said. So I am. 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:04.120 I just want to say I appreciate your perspective. I 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:07.400 think you definitely. As you said, you're much more radical, 1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:13.920 um and you you you have helped to even sort 1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:17.639 of stretch the bounds of what we as leaders are 1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:21.519 capable of, just because we're able to see sort of 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:24.439 outside of the framework. So you know, we can all 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.400 sometimes get the playing inside of a box and it's 1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:30.840 time to move outside of it. And I appreciate the reason. 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:32.800 One of the things that I think makes me a 1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:36.600 greater leader is being around people like my son and 1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:39.479 yourself who and a lot of people they probably look 1:30:39.520 --> 1:30:40.640 at me and they're like, you know, why are you 1:30:40.800 --> 1:30:44.120 doing that? Like why don't you go and be around 1:30:44.360 --> 1:30:48.760 some of our other brothers that are super polished, you know, 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:53.120 super dope educated, they got all the things. You guys 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:58.720 have the exact same attribute, but the additional component is 1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:05.200 actually experiencing the issues, like really experiencing it, but living 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:08.760 it every day, and also working very closely with those 1:31:08.840 --> 1:31:13.360 people who are still experiencing these issues. So that's what 1:31:13.479 --> 1:31:15.960 I'm attracted to. And I just want to say to 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:18.240 both of y'all, love y'all, and you guys really do 1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:23.600 make me better. Okay, Okay, I got my flowers and 1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:25.679 there you hear that. Mine a little bit your little 1:31:25.720 --> 1:31:29.360 flower of that little flower. We got our flowers and 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:33.240 appreciate you know, that was nice. I would say the 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:36.160 same back to you to make it because what happens 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:40.240 is is we before the movement or in the beginning, 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:43.160 people would say things like, would have Malcolm and more 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:45.760 than could work together? What if the Black Panthers could 1:31:45.800 --> 1:31:48.720 work with nig and the s c l C. And 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:51.320 what I see more times than not is that's what 1:31:51.479 --> 1:31:54.920 we do. So you know, from you know, from the 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:58.400 boulevard to the Borough Um to Capitol Hill back to 1:31:58.479 --> 1:32:00.960 the Hood to the college campus, if you can have 1:32:01.280 --> 1:32:04.560 all these people from us, from me to Tamika and 1:32:04.720 --> 1:32:07.960 Linda with my sign to Tina, Tiffany befaul like, we 1:32:08.080 --> 1:32:11.840 can go get people that's not traditionally ever gonna be 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:15.360 in the room, come out in the room, slug it out, 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:19.080 debate because go all up, no, no, Nigga, this ain't 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:21.560 Glenna not And then we come out unified and we 1:32:21.680 --> 1:32:25.000 still get things done from Brianna Taylor to Mike Brown 1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:27.439 and Song and so forth, and we're doing our job. 1:32:28.080 --> 1:32:30.040 And I think we just have to kind of figure 1:32:30.040 --> 1:32:32.800 out how we can duplicate this, how we can find 1:32:32.840 --> 1:32:36.479 our younger sales, older sales, and and and the people 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:39.479 in the grassroots and kind of you know, solidify this 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:43.439 process so people can know in history that in our 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:46.960 real time and our generation, we're doing things like they did, 1:32:47.080 --> 1:32:50.240 but we're doing something different because we expect something different, 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:56.160 because it's our time. We need some different. We appreciate you. 1:32:56.360 --> 1:32:58.599 Can't keep doing the work. You know, we're gonna call 1:32:58.640 --> 1:33:01.800 you when we need you. A good Trump. Good Trump 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:04.160 always caused love rugge and hit me up on them 1:33:04.400 --> 1:33:06.880 on the Black Political Convention. I can plug you into 1:33:07.000 --> 1:33:09.960 some people and some things that people working on. UM 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:12.439 can't wait till y'all come back up. If not, I'll 1:33:12.439 --> 1:33:16.880 probably pull up on y'all. Yeah, you know, drinks on y'all. Right. 1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:22.679 Thank you, Thank you for joining street politicians today, Tori Russell, 1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:26.840 our brother, Thank you for being with us. Appreciate you. 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:31.320 Peace to and shout out to your brother. Tory Man 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:36.240 always giving us a perspective from you know, people don't 1:33:36.280 --> 1:33:38.960 know that Tory is an educator. He's not just a strategy. 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:41.760 He's actually a teacher, you know, and I didn't know that. 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:45.920 So when he was he always has historic facts that 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:48.280 I never even knew though he will be talking about something. 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:52.639 But you know, in sixteen fifty two, out of nowhere, 1:33:52.680 --> 1:33:54.720 he was like, we'll be talking about walking down to 1:33:54.760 --> 1:33:56.439 black You know what this building right here, it was 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:59.759 built in and it was about these people. He breaks 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:03.519 it way down and you know, he's very very astute 1:34:03.560 --> 1:34:08.040 in that manner. So his perspective, in his perspective on politics, 1:34:08.680 --> 1:34:12.320 it's coupled with his knowledge of history and understanding where 1:34:12.360 --> 1:34:15.240 we are in this time and him just being from 1:34:15.280 --> 1:34:17.240 the hood you can buy and all of that. Man, 1:34:17.320 --> 1:34:19.519 you got you got real education. So I always like 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:23.200 to hear tories perspectives, and you know, he always gives 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:26.680 me more of some fuel to continue to do what 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:29.400 I'm doing because I know I'm on the right road. Man. 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:32.439 So appreciate Tory and I And we didn't even get 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:34.960 a chance to talk about how you know, I've also 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:38.040 had the challenge story like, it doesn't mean that any 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:40.600 one of us has it all figured out. You know, 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:44.120 we all are if every day we're trying to be 1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:46.679 sort of like where you say, dog dodging and weaving, 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:50.639 and sometimes we have to pull one another's coattails and say, hey, 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:54.320 how you're approaching this thing. Let me give you all 1:34:54.400 --> 1:34:57.559 the ways in which this is going through impact our 1:34:57.640 --> 1:35:01.000 people and impact our community. So anyway, it's good to 1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:05.320 have Torrey on today. I think it's been uh an 1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:10.200 insightful conversation in general, and that kind of brings me 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:17.960 to my I don't get it, you know, as I 1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:20.640 know it's a topic that's a little old. You know, 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:25.120 I've been a little back off of social media for 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:27.640 a few days, you know, in light of what's going 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:33.880 on my mom. But this whole Joe Rogan situation, you know, 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:40.799 and in comparison to Woopy situation, and it's just crazy 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:44.439 to me, you know. I hear how Indie Iria Um 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:47.679 originally wanted to pull her mood her music from Spotify 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:51.400 based on, you know, the comments that Joe Rogan made, 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:56.000 you know, with the nigger comments and also the monkeys 1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:59.120 and plane of the Apes comments they made. And and 1:35:59.200 --> 1:36:01.880 did I hear recent the league that she accepts his 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.400 apology and and no longer wants to do that. And 1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:11.560 it's just like, I don't understand that, you know, I 1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:14.639 don't understand how people don't see the difference. I've heard 1:36:14.720 --> 1:36:17.240 a lot of different people speaking up and saying that 1:36:17.320 --> 1:36:20.479 Joe Joe Rogan is not racist. You know what I'm saying, 1:36:20.479 --> 1:36:23.200 He's not racist. I don't understand why people are calling 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:26.160 racist this and that, and he's spoken up, But I 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:29.760 haven't heard those same people who spoken and said those 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:32.760 things about Joe Rogan say that, Well, what he said, 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:37.920 there's nowhere near racist. It's actually just somebody who has 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:41.400 has a different perspective or understanding itself. Even if she 1:36:41.560 --> 1:36:44.920 was wrong or right of what she thought race meant 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:48.200 to her and how she expressed it, there was no 1:36:48.520 --> 1:36:52.920 ill intentions, There was no intentional harm. There was nobody 1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:55.640 making fun of anybody. There was no one trying to 1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:58.360 make light of something that happened to somebody. There was 1:36:58.439 --> 1:37:02.439 no one using the right thetory names that historically have 1:37:02.600 --> 1:37:07.599 been you know, derogatory and used to harm someone. Nobody 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:10.840 did that. You know, Joe Rogan used the word nigga 1:37:10.960 --> 1:37:14.120 that historically has been used to harm black people by 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:17.160 white people. That every time it's been said by white 1:37:17.200 --> 1:37:19.280 people has been said that it's not to be said 1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:24.439 by white people called black people monkeys. Plan of the apes, 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:27.439 he he said that, you know, they laughed about it. 1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:29.880 They thought it was a joke. You know what I'm saying. 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:32.479 And we we know that the reference from black white 1:37:32.520 --> 1:37:35.439 people to black people call them apes and monkeys is 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:39.080 a racist comment. There's no nothing to say about it. 1:37:39.160 --> 1:37:41.160 You like Joe Rogan, you like a lot of things 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:44.160 you do there. They are right, racist white people that 1:37:44.320 --> 1:37:47.320 you would like. Right there are racist white people who 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:50.320 they don't they don't do something to harm you, but 1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:52.960 they just see you as a monkey. They just see 1:37:53.000 --> 1:37:55.120 you as a nigger because that's what they've been taught, 1:37:55.240 --> 1:37:57.320 that's what they've learned. They don't see you as the 1:37:57.400 --> 1:38:00.280 same level value in statue that they have. And you 1:38:00.439 --> 1:38:03.400 might actually like that person because everything else they do 1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:06.320 outside of that, it's cool with you. They say a 1:38:06.400 --> 1:38:08.720 bunch of other good ship that you like, and you 1:38:08.760 --> 1:38:11.120 go to anybody, Oh this person is dope. But they 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:13.719 say some racist ship and you might have your racist friend. 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:17.920 That's okay with you. But if you but you can't 1:38:18.000 --> 1:38:21.320 say that it ain't racist. Don't say that it ain't racist. 1:38:21.360 --> 1:38:23.880 Don't say that what that the sky ain't blue where 1:38:23.920 --> 1:38:26.599 we can see the skies, say that you don't mind 1:38:26.720 --> 1:38:29.400 that the skies blue? You would rather be purple or 1:38:29.479 --> 1:38:33.200 something else, but acknowledge that is blue. Right. So when 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:36.800 we look at Whoopie situation, black people say, she ain't 1:38:36.840 --> 1:38:40.280 said nothing wrong, Say she ain't intentionally say something to 1:38:40.360 --> 1:38:43.200 harm somebody, Say that even if she was missing from 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:46.560 or she wasn't educated properly, or you don't agree with 1:38:46.680 --> 1:38:49.200 she said, you know that there was no intent to 1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:52.719 harm someone, right? Do she You know that she didn't 1:38:52.760 --> 1:38:55.400 think that when she said that, that someone would feel 1:38:55.439 --> 1:38:57.920 like they were harmed, and that she intensely tried to 1:38:58.040 --> 1:39:01.240 disrespect somebody. Right, When we know when the world is 1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:03.760 nigger as used every time it is used by a 1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:08.400 black white person, black people are disrespected. We know when 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:11.240 you refer to black people as monkeys and apes, they 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:16.559 are disrespected. I don't get, however, anyone because see something 1:39:16.640 --> 1:39:19.120 wrong with one and not seeing them something wrong with 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:22.080 the other. Right, and and and not had the same 1:39:22.200 --> 1:39:25.720 figor to utilize their platforms or their voices to say, hey, 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:28.439 this ship that's happening. We don't even make sense to me. 1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:30.800 I don't understand how we're doing this. But you could 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:33.040 say something about Joe Rogan and I'm saying that about 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:36.000 black people. I'm saying black people who know the historic 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:40.080 context of apes and monkeys used by black used by 1:39:40.120 --> 1:39:42.760 white people, and nigga used by black people, I mean 1:39:42.840 --> 1:39:46.480 by white people. So I just don't get how we constantly, 1:39:47.080 --> 1:39:50.560 you know, we get on our our horse and we 1:39:50.720 --> 1:39:53.200 we cat for white people, but we don't utilize to 1:39:53.240 --> 1:39:56.519 save the same energy to save and speak up on 1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:58.680 behalf of our black people. And I don't think I'm 1:39:58.720 --> 1:40:00.960 never gonna get it. I know that it happens, I 1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:03.240 see it happened every day, But I don't think I'm 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:05.160 never gonna get it, and I'm never gonna be okay 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:07.160 with it. If we don't think nothing should happen to 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:09.800 Joe Rogan and we think that it's okay, then we 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:12.040 should have made sure that there's no way that will 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:14.960 be got no suspension for two weeks for saying something 1:40:15.000 --> 1:40:18.160 about race in a perspective that she thought not something 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:20.920 that was negative, not something that was harmful. She didn't 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:24.200 say what happened to the Jewish community was right. She 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:27.800 didn't say oh, she didn't use derogatory terms to talk 1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:30.960 about Jews. She said it wasn't racist. She didn't think 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:34.760 that she thought color blacks and white schools race like 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:38.960 most people do. Most people are not aware. Most people see, oh, 1:40:39.040 --> 1:40:41.000 we thought that Jewish was a religion. We didn't know 1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:43.920 that it was a race, right, so it's not. It's 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:47.160 not it's not a race. And I think that what 1:40:47.320 --> 1:40:53.840 we learned together, the educational component, was that the what 1:40:54.160 --> 1:41:01.360 happened to the Jewish people was based upon other individuals 1:41:01.560 --> 1:41:05.640 who want to be, or wanted to be, the more dominant, 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:11.560 powerful race. So therefore you understand why racism plays a 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:16.479 role because the social construct struct and the mental um, 1:41:17.320 --> 1:41:22.479 the dominance of one group over another is what we 1:41:22.640 --> 1:41:26.240 see happen with white supremacy all the time. So we 1:41:26.439 --> 1:41:30.960 learned the issue, and I think with Whoop we also 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:36.160 learned the issue. Nonetheless, the way in which she was 1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:41.679 chastised for her comments, which I agree with you were 1:41:41.760 --> 1:41:45.120 not there was no in intent. I don't think there. 1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:49.799 I don't think anybody really has said there was ill intent, however, 1:41:50.200 --> 1:41:52.920 and there was an immediate apology, right, and there was 1:41:53.000 --> 1:41:56.400 an apology. Well, one thing I will say that I've 1:41:56.439 --> 1:41:59.920 also heard many people, not just Jewish people, but black 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:02.880 folks and others say, is that what you may not 1:42:03.600 --> 1:42:07.840 mean to be harmful can still hurt other people. Right, 1:42:08.080 --> 1:42:11.599 So that's why an apology is necessary, and that's why 1:42:11.720 --> 1:42:15.679 she did what she did to apologize immediately, because whoa, 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:19.759 I didn't know, I was educated. I apologize. I'm sorry, 1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:23.839 that wasn't it wasn't my intention to harm her whatever, Okay, 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:29.560 cool to me? To me, right? That was very sincere 1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:34.680 because she immediately corrected herself for making a statement and 1:42:34.760 --> 1:42:38.320 then being educated that actually the way you're seeing it 1:42:38.479 --> 1:42:41.599 is from a very narrow perspective and less broadened your 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:45.560 understanding so you could see it from a different perspective. 1:42:46.120 --> 1:42:49.559 I think that was very important. But I do see 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:53.240 the disparity in the way in which a corporation can 1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:56.760 listen to a man using language that, as you said, 1:42:56.800 --> 1:43:03.560 has been identified one to be offensive, to be disrespectful, 1:43:03.720 --> 1:43:09.400 to be all the harmful everything else intentionally right, How 1:43:09.560 --> 1:43:14.400 they could see that behavior and not find reason to, 1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:17.559 at least, if nothing else, suspend him for two weeks. 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:21.960 You know what I think is it is interesting and 1:43:22.120 --> 1:43:27.160 I'll really leave this here. It's interesting to me that 1:43:27.680 --> 1:43:33.439 even even though this happens in the same exact time 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:39.439 period as whoopee, this is just days of heart. If 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:43.960 if it were the other way around, just because Joe 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:50.599 Rogan was um um, excuse me, just because Joe Rogan 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:53.200 would have been like suspended if it was the other 1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:56.639 way around, same scenario the other way around. Just because 1:43:56.720 --> 1:44:00.200 he was suspended, that would have set the tone for 1:44:00.439 --> 1:44:02.840 Whoopie coming behind him. She would have had to be 1:44:02.960 --> 1:44:07.360 suspended just because it already happened as Spotify with a 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:10.639 white man. But it did not go that way, based 1:44:10.720 --> 1:44:13.600 upon the fact that a black woman at ABC was 1:44:13.800 --> 1:44:19.800 just chastised and reprimanded for what she did, and then 1:44:19.840 --> 1:44:23.480 a couple of days later something that was way more blatant. 1:44:23.520 --> 1:44:26.599 I'm not trying to be clear, because you know they'll 1:44:26.680 --> 1:44:30.519 go and say and recreate what we're saying. I'm not 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:32.680 saying that they are not folks that hold heard what 1:44:32.920 --> 1:44:35.559 be speaking and said, oh my god, like she doesn't 1:44:35.600 --> 1:44:38.400 get it. Just hurt me. She raised my experience or 1:44:38.479 --> 1:44:41.760 my understanding. We're not saying that. We're saying that in 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:46.920 these two situations, you had someone who was clearly ignorant 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:51.400 to what we have now learned to be different right 1:44:51.560 --> 1:44:55.800 from what some people knew or what Whoopie understood. Now 1:44:55.960 --> 1:44:59.360 you go to a situation where We know that Joe 1:44:59.520 --> 1:45:03.880 Rogan was not ignorant because he said when he made 1:45:03.920 --> 1:45:06.320 the statement about the planet of the eggs, that's real. 1:45:07.080 --> 1:45:09.000 He said that, so he knew what he was saying 1:45:09.439 --> 1:45:12.200 was wrong, but he did it anywhere, and you can't 1:45:12.200 --> 1:45:15.479 tell me he didn't think. He even challenged whoever his 1:45:15.640 --> 1:45:18.040 co host store, the other person to guess that was 1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:20.720 on the show with him. He challenged that person, I 1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:22.720 bet you won't say nigga. You don't want to say it. 1:45:22.840 --> 1:45:25.160 You don't want to say it, Say nigga, say nigga. 1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:27.880 He did that, He challenged him. So he was there 1:45:28.720 --> 1:45:34.439 playing a game. And even though Whoopee was reprimanded, he 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:38.880 has not been He's his apology. The white man's apology 1:45:39.520 --> 1:45:43.320 was accepted with no further concert. Black people came with 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:49.920 the kid just like this, Yeah, rescued, he ain't that's 1:45:50.040 --> 1:45:53.679 my ain't so what he said nigga and called his monkey. 1:45:53.720 --> 1:45:58.479 He ain't racist. He works with black people. Black people 1:45:59.400 --> 1:46:03.320 don't ever could you listen, he can call us monkeys 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:08.479 and plans the apes. It's not racist. Moving right along 1:46:09.560 --> 1:46:13.400 and with that said, another Dope episode. Shout out to 1:46:13.600 --> 1:46:18.599 King Jay and King Queen. Understand on their Dope interview. UM, 1:46:19.120 --> 1:46:21.800 I just want to say to my angel, to my queen, 1:46:21.920 --> 1:46:24.679 to my mom, I love you. You know you thought 1:46:24.760 --> 1:46:26.640 one of the biggest fights I've ever seen. And I 1:46:26.760 --> 1:46:29.519 know why I am the King because you are a Queen. 1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:32.080 And I will continue to live on this earth and 1:46:32.160 --> 1:46:37.960 make you proud. A ipy to the Great Patricia Lennon. 1:46:40.120 --> 1:46:43.200 Listen to Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network on 1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:46.600 I Heart Radio, and catch us every single Wednesday for 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:49.559 the video version of Street Politicians on I Women Dot Tv.