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Speaker 1: I mean. Welcome to like a virgin. The show we

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Speaker 1: give yesterday's pop culture Today it's takes. I'm Rose damn you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm Fran to Rondo Fran What would you if

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Speaker 1: you had to guess, what do you think would be

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Speaker 1: the most fuckable pasta? I thought, I mean, my first

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Speaker 1: thought is like, um, you know, a fusili like a

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Speaker 1: kind of like a dense, chewy noodle that's PC so

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Speaker 1: it's easy to you know, fuck. Okay, So that's a

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Speaker 1: little more specific than than the question was intended to be.

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Speaker 1: Because virgins, if you're on a where UM a porn

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Speaker 1: creator UM by the name of I actually don't know

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Speaker 1: what their name is, as as if it matters, UM

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Speaker 1: unleashed a video onto the world and which he um

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Speaker 1: fucked flesh lights full of several different kinds of pasta,

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Speaker 1: each fleshlight with a different with a different kind of pasta,

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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about like types of noodles. I

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Speaker 1: think that's where you're you're getting very specific into that

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about like he he fucked like Bucatini

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Speaker 1: versus angel Hair. That's like he was fucking. He was

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Speaker 1: fucking pasta dishes. So he was like las Macaronian cheese,

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Speaker 1: um like bulonaise and um. So I did not subscribe

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Speaker 1: to his I did not buy the video so I

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Speaker 1: could find out which was the most fuckable pasta. But

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Speaker 1: I have watched the teaser clip that he released several

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Speaker 1: times and your review, Um, I mean it's weird. He

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Speaker 1: seems like a Weirdoh um, no surprise there. I think

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Speaker 1: of love him for this. And if I had to,

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Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I would say lasagna would

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Speaker 1: be the most fuckable pasta. There's something about it being

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Speaker 1: like a sort of pasta casserole that lends itself to

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Speaker 1: a certain softness. I that that that sounds wretched. I

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Speaker 1: really there are a lot of foods that I would fuck,

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Speaker 1: but pasta is just not one of them. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's because it's like cheesy, or if

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Speaker 1: it's because it's like kind of like pec and like

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Speaker 1: that like actually sends a shiver down my spine. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many foods that I would suck before.

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Speaker 1: I would suck pasta. Would you are there other foods

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Speaker 1: that you would fuck? No? I wouldn't suck any food

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Speaker 1: I would fuck like a pie, okay, Jason Biggs, or

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Speaker 1: do it for the TikTok. Yeah. The thing about the

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Speaker 1: video that did um disgusted me for a second until

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Speaker 1: I realized what the purpose of it was was that

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Speaker 1: you grow up. But then I thought about it and

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Speaker 1: it's food. And I don't really think you want tomato

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Speaker 1: sauce going up your urethra. No, you don't want You

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Speaker 1: don't want night shades on your dick, Mama, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't want some that acidic quality. Okay, that's like

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Speaker 1: too many tomatoes. No, no, no, um, yeah, I I

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Speaker 1: Theta talks about them the experienced poisoning effect of discourse

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Speaker 1: and how it's so much like this like subsect of

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Speaker 1: for shock value? Because like shock is like actually the pleasure,

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Speaker 1: Papa John's. I love Papa John's. Actually, um, I think

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Speaker 1: What have I been fucking? I did actually have sex

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Speaker 1: I mean all the this is all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I was searching for this past weekend because I was

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Speaker 1: Like it's like I feel like I have so much

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Speaker 1: I was very chill. You're making me realize right now

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Speaker 1: It's because you know what, I'm so fresh faced because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't in the trenches trying to get Beyonce tickets

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Girl. Okay, I've like I've been waitlisted, even

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Speaker 1: if if anybody wants to help me find a Beyonce

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Speaker 1: hook up. I need Beyonce tickets. This is Beyonce. If

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't go. You don't go to I would go

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Speaker 1: to it, you would. You don't even do auditorium shows

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Speaker 1: I'll i will actually do some unspeakable things to you.

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Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do hand stuff. I'll do I'll do

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Speaker 1: did you watch the Grammys yesterday? I did not. I

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Speaker 1: the Grammys are I think have the biggest flop energy

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Speaker 1: the winds and losses are very inconsistent, and it's just

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Speaker 1: Um you know, obviously I was on Twitter last night,

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Speaker 1: I know Beyonce I didn't win Album of the Year.

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Speaker 1: they still don't know what the funk they're doing, um

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Speaker 1: was dumb. But great gowns, beautiful gowns. Great gowns, beautiful gowns.

426
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. I'm definitely going. Rose, I

427
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: am honestly nervous for today's episode, Like I feel like

428
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot of I have. I feel like a lot

429
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: of pressure because today we're trying to cover you know,

430
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: like a patron saint of of culture, Like she is

431
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: like just an idol among us, Um, Dolly Parton, Like

432
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: could there be a better celebrity? Like she is the one?

433
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: To me? She is she is the one, She is

434
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: the dividual herself. She is mother. She's a mother of time,

435
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: mother of music, She's everything. She is she contains multitudes,

436
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: so many and I were not saying that, yes, yes, um, Rose,

437
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: do you do you have Like do you know what

438
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: your first memory of Dolly Parton was? Um? I don't

439
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: know about first memory is, but I can definitely say

440
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: that Dolly was not a huge afformative musical icon for me.

441
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: I was always aware of her, like in the background

442
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: of my cultural experience, but it really wasn't until probably

443
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: my mid to late twenties that I really started actively

444
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: searching out Dolly to listen to her music. And Um,

445
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: I didn't really do like any sort of deep investigation

446
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: into you know, the woman, the myth, the legend, until

447
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: I had to interview her a couple of years ago.

448
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: So I I came very late to the Dolly game.

449
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I think for this episode,

450
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm probably the virgin, even though like at this point

451
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: now I do have a much deeper understanding of Dolly

452
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Parton and her work and her impact. But you know not,

453
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: I think sort of the foundational knowledge that you have,

454
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: right I Okay, So just to like level set with you,

455
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I also honestly discovered Dolly. I feel in my adulthood,

456
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: like my mom's side of the family. As I've said before,

457
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: it's like all cattle ranchers, like true cowboys in like

458
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the West, and so obviously Dolly is like an omnipotent

459
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: presence in cowbey culture, definitely in the South, like because

460
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: you're in the West. Maybe I don't know, maybe like

461
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: it didn't like touch my family as much as like

462
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: other like country like singer songwriters did, but like, but

463
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: she is this like kind of god figure that was

464
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: still in the background of my childhood and I think

465
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: only until adulthood when you go back and you look

466
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: at her catalog and you look at like her cultural

467
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: moon meaning and like what she's accomplished for her with

468
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: her life. That was when I was just like, oh,

469
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: like I want a Dolly tattoo, like I Dolly, Like

470
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I want to embody Dolly, like she's a hero, Like

471
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: I just think she's incredible. I love her so much

472
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: as you do too, obviously. Um. One of the first

473
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: things I feel like I latched onto was just like

474
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: how she was a like pre eminent, like I kind

475
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: of like bimbo culture. Like before it was cool, like yeah,

476
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think I

477
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: understood until I really started going down the Dolly rabbit

478
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: hole that her bimbo nous was a joke that she

479
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: was in on. I think I always assumed it was

480
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: something that had been placed on her and that she

481
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: only sort of begrudgingly engaged with. And then like, once

482
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I started even paying like the remotest bit of attention,

483
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: I realized, like it wasn't even that she was in

484
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: on the joke. She was the one making the joke,

485
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, in in both her music, like the whole

486
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Backwoods Barbie persona, and also like a lot of her

487
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: like iconic late night interviews, like she's always the one

488
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: who's talking about how huge her tits are. And like

489
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: making these like you know, bimbo jokes and like she

490
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure part of that is like she wants

491
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: to make the joke first before someone else can make it.

492
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: But like that means that she's always had all the power,

493
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Like she she controls her own narrative and she monetizes it.

494
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I felt like it just it clues

495
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: you into like how shrewd and like smart and strategic

496
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: she is as a person with all the while making

497
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: it seems so effortless like Dolly's like it costs a

498
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: lot of money to look this cheap. Is like like

499
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: everyone everyone says that now you know what I mean.

500
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: It's like this kind of um these words to live

501
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: by where in you like don't take yourself too seriously

502
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: and I think, like live in your power in that moment,

503
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Like it's just so incredible and like she's like so

504
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: whipped smart, Like her jokes are so fucking fast and

505
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: so quick talking to her as I have gotten a

506
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: couple of times, like she is absolutely like in control

507
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: on it at all times, like so funny, so like sharp. Yeah,

508
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: and like in those late night interviews you're talking about,

509
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: like she would be on the receiving end of a

510
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: boob joke and then she would knock a joke back

511
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: that was like five times funnier, like every time she

512
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: was funnier than the late night host And like that

513
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: to me is like part of like her magnanimous and

514
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: why she's like transcendent time and space for decades, right, Like,

515
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: um so wait, how much do you know about like

516
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the Dolly like history, like you know, like I'm sure

517
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: by going to Dollywood you kind of get a little

518
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: bit of a history. Yes, I I know a little bit.

519
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: I know sort I know, like the you know, Tennessee

520
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: Mountain Home version of Dolly's Story, which incidentally, that is

521
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: my favorite Dolly partner song. I love in Materna Theme Mountain.

522
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Um so good. Can't wait to get fined for that,

523
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: but I do. Yeah, Like as we as, I talked

524
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: about um on our theme park episode with Matt Rogers,

525
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: which if you haven't listened to it, definitely go listen

526
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: to the episode. It's very fun. Um I at Dollywood

527
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: there it is a theme park that like part of

528
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: part like uh, you know at Disney MGM is like

529
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: a theme park about movies, and like Animal Kingdom is

530
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: a theme park about animals, and Dollywood is a theme

531
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: park about Dolly Parton, and part of it is about

532
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: creating this like magical, like folk tale mythology of Dolly's life.

533
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: And there is a recreation of the Tennessee Mountain home

534
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: in the theme park that you can go and look at,

535
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: so you and you know, I'm sure it's like somewhat

536
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: true to life, and I'm sure there's some of it

537
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: that's like theme park. Iised, but yeah, so I have

538
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: like a basic understanding of the legend of Dolly Parton

539
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: and like how poor she was like growing up and

540
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, her true rags to riches story. I okay, yes,

541
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I need to go to Dollywood, by the way, Like

542
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: I want to go so bad now I really want

543
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: to go back. So let's go because it it truly

544
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: is like a gay mecca. Maybe someone can bring us,

545
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: maybe we can get like Dolly tourism borders. Yeah. And

546
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: the town it's in, Pigeon Forge so beautiful. I was

547
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: there in October and it was just like the leaves

548
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: were changing. It was gorgeous and like it is very

549
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: cool to see this town that Dolly, you know, by

550
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: um buying this theme park and turning it into this

551
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: like destination, um, this travel destination. She totally created this um,

552
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, like self sustaining economy in this very poor

553
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: town that she grew up in and like created so

554
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: many jobs for people. Um. And it's just like she is.

555
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: She's a fucking superhero. She is like over and over again,

556
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: time and time again, she's proven that she is so

557
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: fucking consistent and what she believes in and what she

558
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: stands for and what she wants to accomplish with her life.

559
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, the Tennessee Mountain Home mythology, yes,

560
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: is a mythology, but like her story really is like magical.

561
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know anybody who is even remotely interested

562
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: in the life of Dolly Parton. Please go listen to

563
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: Jada boom Rad's Dolly Parton's America, which is a podcast

564
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: series that, to me, is one of the best, if

565
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: not the best, portrait of a celebrity I'd ever seen

566
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: in any medium. It's like listened to in any medium.

567
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: It's so fucking good. It is very good. I didn't

568
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: listen to it. I didn't listen to the whole thing,

569
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: but I listened to most of it because I think

570
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: it was coming out around the time that I went

571
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: to interviewed her. So I was very intrigued. Right, it's okay,

572
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: it's so good. But like, yeah, she you know, she

573
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: grew up in this little bunk house and she like

574
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: shared a bed with like nine people or whatever, and like,

575
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, was like barely feeding herself through the first

576
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: years of like her music career. And then uh found

577
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: a kind of like pairing with what is his name,

578
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Porter Wagner. It's I love that we don't even know,

579
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: Like I don't even remember remember his fucking name. Now

580
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: I need to Porter Wagner. Okay, So she finds she

581
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: finds this kind of like um creative partnership with Porter

582
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Wagner that at the time, at the beginning, was not

583
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: a creative partnership. Right. It was like Porter was this

584
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: country star, and at the time, country stars had you know,

585
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: singing gals that came on and sing a song, but

586
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: they were like an accessory on the stage, right, like

587
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: you have this little countrywoman. There was this woman named

588
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: Norma Jean who had sang with him for a while.

589
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: She quit, I think because of an affair or something.

590
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Enter Dolly. He scouts her and he's like, you're gonna

591
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: be my singing girl now. And then she, you know,

592
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: over the course of years, starts to outshine him and

593
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: becomes kind of the true star of their like duet

594
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: act that becomes like renowned and had a show. It

595
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: was a TV show. They had a show. They had right,

596
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: were right, they had exactly exactly sorry, so they were

597
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: on TV all the time, and then became like the

598
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: patron saints of the country music world in the very

599
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: beginning when they like started the Country Music Awards and

600
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So like Dolly has been a part

601
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: of like institutional country music since the beginning in a

602
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: way that like most stars and music stars can't claim

603
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: right like she really and yet she's so humble about it.

604
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: And the way that she I think this is like

605
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: very evident with the thing we were talking about with

606
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: like the boob jokes or like um or just like

607
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the way. So what I'm trying to say is the

608
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: way she um overcomes adversity is with so much grace,

609
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: Like she will never prioritize, like you know, she will

610
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: never like want to seem like mean or cruel to anyone,

611
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Like she knows her own worth and I think that's evident.

612
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: But like with the Porter Wagner thing, like she was

613
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: just like, look, Porter, like you made me who I

614
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: am and I, you know, maybe have you to think

615
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: for a lot of my success, but like I'm a

616
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: star and this is my goodbye. And she famously wrote

617
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: like I will always love you about saying goodbye to

618
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Porter Wagner and wait for him and he cried, right story, yes,

619
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: famously office. And I think it's I think if you

620
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: think about who Dolly is, I think it's absolutely true

621
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: because she has written, you know, three thousand songs or whatever.

622
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: So it's giving Glee a little bit that she wanted

623
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: to his office and saying in this song that made

624
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: him like decide to let her go. But that's the

625
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: thing that I love about Dolly is she is kind

626
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: of Glee, Like she is like magic like this like

627
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: magical thinking where in like you can break out into

628
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: song and express your feelings that way. And then at

629
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: the Antiquechrist And says, okay, sure, like you gotta go

630
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: um your own kid. You're on your own kid. Yeah,

631
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: and she still gave him. I think she gave him

632
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: the song, like she gave him the right or like

633
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: she gave him a million dollars. There was a settlement.

634
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: He sued her, she gave him a million dollars. And

635
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: then when Whitney re recorded the song, she like made

636
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: that back three times in like one year or something

637
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: like that, just on the rights alone. So anyways, we

638
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: should talk a little bit about like Dolly Parton the

639
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: movie star, because she is a phenomenal movie star. Rose

640
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: You've seen, You've seen Best Little her House in Texas,

641
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: and I love I love Best Little Horhouse in Texas.

642
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: Um love hard Canny Christmas. Oh my god, that song

643
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: is fucking It's a deep cut. It's actually like a

644
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: deep deep cut from Dolly, and it's it's not even

645
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: really a Christmas song. I love five. I actually only

646
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: watch the first time New Year's Eve going into the

647
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: New Year's that I spent alone at home, you know,

648
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: when we were in like the deepest darkest pits of

649
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: of like COVID fear in l a um. So thanks

650
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: Dolly for getting me through that. And also after a

651
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: full year of like understanding crystal clearly that every job

652
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: sucks and that we as a society should move on

653
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: from nine to five jobs, which was the America that

654
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: Dolly imagine for all all of us, Yes, and nine

655
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: to five. I mean, you know, like the thing about

656
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: anything having to do with Dolly and what I love

657
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: about her is there's always some story that's like been

658
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: extracted from that that like gets paired with it. So

659
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: like when you think about nine to five, you think

660
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: about like Dolly with her nails, like nas like in

661
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: the nails, and like there's always something like that because

662
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: she's had this long career in which she's been so

663
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: deeply intertwined with her own work, and like Dolly is

664
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: a woman who tells her own story. Uh so there's

665
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: you can always like remember some like cute or funny

666
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: or moving little anecdote about anything she's done. And I

667
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: think that's beautiful. I feel like Dolly has always been

668
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: ahead of her time, and it's like rarely credited to that,

669
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, like you said, like

670
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: our first impression of Dolly's like huge tits big wig,

671
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: And if we don't know anything else about her, we

672
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know anything else about her. But if you do,

673
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: you know that like she was writing these kind of

674
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: um stories about like women with pregnancy who ruin their lives,

675
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: like she was writing songs about suicide and like with

676
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: nine to five, like this was this was like a

677
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: kind of feminist like feminist anti capitalists. Yes, like that was. Yes,

678
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: that was so like on exactly the cusp of like feminism.

679
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: And she was also like third wave feminism before third

680
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: wave feminism, where she was just like, yeah, I have

681
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: tits and also I can like exercise like any any

682
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: right I want as like a woman. God, she's just

683
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: like always been like that, Like I fucking love it is.

684
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's hyper femininity as power, um as strength.

685
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Do you do you remember the plot of Best Little

686
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: Horhouse of Texas? No, okay, let me tell you. The

687
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: plot of this movie is Dolly Parton has the best

688
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: little horhouse in Texas. She has the best horrors. Everyone

689
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: in town comes to this horhouse because she provides the

690
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: best service, the best experience, and there are no pimps here.

691
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Like the men don't control the money. She controls the money,

692
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's so beautiful. The plot is basically

693
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: like she's sleeping with the sheriff, which is why the

694
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: whole house is protected in Texas, and all of a sudden,

695
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: this kind of like radical gay purist starts coming for

696
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: the Horehouse and it's like this is like, you know,

697
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: desecrating our town and it can't be here, and the

698
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: cops fight this radical purist to protect these sex workers.

699
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Is that whild Like it's like it's like cops like

700
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: finding corruption in a way that protects sex workers. Like

701
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: it's actually so whackadoodle to watch an experience because you're like,

702
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: this is a fantasy, um. But it also made me

703
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: wonder like what a modern day Best Little hore House

704
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: in Texas adaptation would look? Like I don't know that

705
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: it could exist today. No, no, I I think I

706
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: think one maybe something in the eighties, Like I would

707
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: love to watch the Best Little Horhouse, but it's like

708
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: in the eighties, you know what I mean, like set

709
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: in the eighties, set in the eighties. Yeah, instead of

710
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: like the like the I don't know when it takes

711
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: ye old ye yeah, ye old have you? I mean,

712
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Best Little Horhouse in Texas is basically West World. Wait, yeah,

713
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: we should we need it. We actually need a West World.

714
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: We need a dystopian Best Little Horhouse in Texas. We

715
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: need the last of Us. I mean that's just West World.

716
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: That's just west World. Yeah it is. Oh wait, yeah,

717
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen west World, so like I actually wasn't

718
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: connecting the dots there ye old ye old yew times.

719
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, have you seen um stee Magnolias. So

720
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: this has become a point of contention between my mother

721
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: and I. I have never seen still magnoli Is in totality. Um,

722
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I have seen parts of it. I'm surprised this didn't

723
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: come up during our Julia Roberts episode. But I've never

724
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: watched the whole film. I am shook. I'm shook arena.

725
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I am legend of Zelda, shook Arena of time. I

726
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: am literally like I have no I literally like it

727
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: does feel like such another like canonically Rose movie and

728
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: I but Robert, I don't like like a I don't

729
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: like a sad movie like that. You know it is

730
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: too sad. Yeah, Julia Roberts having a seizure and she does.

731
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I think she dies at the end spoiler alert. I

732
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: actually don't even remember. But the ensemble like a cost

733
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: cast Dolly, Julia Um, God, Sally Field, Shirley McClain god. Um.

734
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I I think that like what

735
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: Dolly injects into I think the thing about Reboots actually

736
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: is like what Dolly injects into all three of those

737
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: movies we talked about, like cannot be replicated. Like there's

738
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: no woman, man, anyone that can bring what Dolly brings

739
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: to any sort of project, because she is a once

740
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: in a lifetime person um not just as not just

741
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: as this kind of like charismatic, like larger than life,

742
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: like most memorable person in the room way, but also

743
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: like she's a genius like I can't remember who said this,

744
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: but like but it's like if she was writing classical music, right,

745
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: if she had written three thousand classical songs, like we

746
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: would be calling her Mozart, like she is mention level genius.

747
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: Well and not. And not only is she and an

748
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: INCREDI an incredible, brilliant, show stopping, never never, never done

749
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: before artist, she's incredible at branding and marketing. Like yes,

750
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: she she literally has a theme park, like she has

751
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: created the mythology of herself so incredibly that it has

752
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: endured through multiple generations. And she is known from you know,

753
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: my grandparents too, kids who just saw her on Miley's

754
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Rock and New Year's Eve or whatever the funk it

755
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: was called. Like It's not even that she's necessarily had

756
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: all these different eras in her career. She just like

757
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: has always been there. So even when I, like I said,

758
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: like as a child, as a teenager, like whatever, was

759
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: not really like searching her out, I still had a

760
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: basic awareness of who she was, Like I still always

761
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: knew that I Will Always Love You was a Dolly

762
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Parton song like that. It's just sort of part of

763
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: our like shared cultural unconsciousness, like who Dolly Parton is

764
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: because she's omnipotent. I also think that she was able

765
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: to represent God. I hate this sounds so stupid out

766
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: of context, but like the Deep South is an underrepresented community,

767
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: like they we don't have stories from the Deep South

768
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: the way we do of other parts of this country.

769
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like what she brought to the culture

770
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: was something that was based in this like extremely hidden

771
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: part of the world and was able to take that

772
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: and take and make her story the most beloved story

773
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: in the world. Right Like when we right before we

774
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: were recorded, we were talking about like, while we were

775
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: talking about and Roles is like, are you going to

776
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: talk about the Q score? I was like, fun, So

777
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: like if you haven't, I've always talked about the fucking

778
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Q score, which is this thing that's mentioned in the

779
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's America podcast, which is about this weird valuation

780
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: of celebrities and like how like they are on the world,

781
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: or rather how much negative sentiment is around them, and

782
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: who has the least amount of negative sentiment around them,

783
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: and like the two at the top are always like

784
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton and Adele Um And and I think that that.

785
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: I think, as you said, her ability to brand herself

786
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: both strategically and a politically right because she straddles these

787
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: two halves of the culture. I think it's why she's

788
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: like always going to be relevant like forever and ever.

789
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: Um She's able to at least like becoming like Miley's godmother.

790
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: She was able to take her like you know, base

791
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: of like fifty something people that grew up with her

792
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: in the country to go to millennials and people even

793
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: younger and all of us understand like her cultural impact

794
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: and meaning and so now it's like the whitest s

795
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: base possible. Oh God, I love her and Miley. I

796
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: love that song rainbow Land, I have no shame. I

797
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: love the Malibu album. I think it's so good you

798
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: famously don't like Younger Younger Now is not Miley's best effort,

799
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: but there are some good moments on it, and that

800
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: is one of the better ones that some will make

801
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: me cry, like we really we have to get you

802
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: to Dollywood, because not only is Dollywood incredible, but when

803
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: I was there, I stayed at the Dollywood Hotel. And Um,

804
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: in at the Dollywood Hotel, so like in in the

805
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: lobby or something, there is a song there that's locked

806
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: up in a box that Dolly wrote that will be

807
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: released on her hundredth birthday, whether she's alive or dead.

808
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: And I stood and looked at the little box through

809
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: the window. Oh my god, I have goose bumps. I

810
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: know it's so it's so fucking cool. And there's just

811
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: like the hotel, there's like butterflies everywhere. There's a Dolly Spa,

812
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: there's a like everything is Dolly themed. There's a gift

813
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: shop where you can buy Dolly stuff. I think I

814
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: have like a fridge magnet that has Dolly on it.

815
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: Um I have. I Also when I was there, I

816
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: was gifted um by not Dolly herself, by her team

817
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: or maybe she did hand it to me. Um. I

818
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: have my I have a signed copy of Jolene. I'm

819
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: so jealous, Oh my god. And I got to interview her,

820
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: not once, but twice. Yes, Wait, tell me what was

821
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: your experience, Like what did you I mean to the

822
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: effect that you can even describe Dolly Parton like it was?

823
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible. It was really nice that so

824
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: so for context, I interviewed her. Um. She had a

825
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: a limited Netflix series UM called Dolly Parton's called Dolly

826
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Parton's heart Strings, which will discuss all these little shows

827
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: that are each each episode is based on a different

828
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton song. Like it's not very good, but because

829
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: of it, I got to meet Dolly and it was

830
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: a it was a pretty long press trip. Um. It

831
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: was a couple of days, and the first thing we

832
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: did was interview Dolly, which was kind of nice because

833
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: it was the thing that I was the most stressed

834
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: out about, see a lot of the way and um,

835
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I asked her. I don't even remember what to ask her,

836
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe like on I'll post the interview on our on

837
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: the like a virgin Instagram. But she was like very warm,

838
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: very sweet, like put me right at ease. She you know,

839
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: sometimes like of course, I asked questions that were like

840
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: a little gay, a little like pushing the envelope a bit,

841
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: and she just like was right there with me. Shouldn't

842
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: answer her everything. Um. And then the second time I

843
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: interviewed her was they were having a premiere for the

844
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: show at the theater at Dollywood, UM, and there was

845
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: a red carpet, and so we got to interview her

846
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: on the red carpet and what um? I went to

847
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: interview her. And so at Dollywood there's a museum. There's

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Speaker 1: a Dolly museum that has a hologram of Dolly, and

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Speaker 1: she like comes in like a fairy and it's like hey, y'all.

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Speaker 1: But they also have all of her looks at the museum,

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Speaker 1: like all of her iconic looks, like looks she's worn

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Speaker 1: in movies. They had costumes from best Little her house

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Speaker 1: in Texas, UM, all of her concert looks like Hi.

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Speaker 1: I would physically cry. So when I was interviewing her

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Speaker 1: on the carpet, I was like, Dolly, we got to

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Speaker 1: go to the museum today. And she was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you would have loved all those clothes. Like she classed

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Speaker 1: me right away. She knew, I mean, she knows she

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Speaker 1: surrounded my bags and day one. Um. Um, but she was.

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Speaker 1: She was amazing. She was very generous with her time

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Speaker 1: to all the journalists that were there. She's super sweet.

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Speaker 1: She's like, looks exactly how you expect her to look.

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Speaker 1: She's very tiny, her tits are huge, her hair is huge,

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Speaker 1: she has like crazy long nails. She is covered up

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Speaker 1: from top to bottom everything. She wears this fucking rhind

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Speaker 1: stone because she famously has has like people say she

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Speaker 1: has like a sleeve of tattoos or whatever, but I

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Speaker 1: know that she is like she doesn't like her tattoos

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Speaker 1: and she covers them up. She probably just doesn't like

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Speaker 1: her arms. Oh yeah, are you going full to ally?

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Speaker 1: Are you like long sleeve only from here? No? No, no,

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Speaker 1: but um, I also don't like my tattoos. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do feel like that is like a life goal

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Speaker 1: mischief managed. I have met Dolly not once, but twice,

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Speaker 1: and I got to like touch her, you know. She Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have touched Dolly Parton. That's crazy to think about,

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Speaker 1: like she Oh god, I okay, wait, since you brought

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Speaker 1: it up, since you brought up heart strings, we you're

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Speaker 1: now reminding me that Dolly Parton and who gave us

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Speaker 1: heart Strings also gave the culture the whole halways smells

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Speaker 1: like come, which was uttered via one Tricksie Mattel. I

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Speaker 1: was in the room for that moment. Were you in

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Speaker 1: the room for that moment? I don't remember. Back in

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Speaker 1: the Netflix days, if you haven't seen Tricksie and Katya,

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Speaker 1: watch this episode of Heartstrings. It's like the funniest fucking

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Speaker 1: that episod is no longer on the official Netflix. You're

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Speaker 1: two right, you have to take it down because of

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Speaker 1: like copyright stuff. Yeah, you have to. You have to

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Speaker 1: watch the you have to watch the bootleg version. But

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Speaker 1: it is definitely the most iconic. Um. I like to

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Speaker 1: watch episode for sure. Oh yeah, Trixie sells pillows. Now

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Speaker 1: that's say the whole hallway smells like like um, which

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Speaker 1: it does. Um Wait, did you see um I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to bring Did you see Dolly parton Christmas? Her Christmas

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Speaker 1: in the Square? The Square? Yes? I did watch it.

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Speaker 1: Um you know what is it about? It's like it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's about Christine Baranski's is like a mean, high

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Speaker 1: powered businesswoman who who um like, owns most of the

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Speaker 1: town she grew up in and she goes back over

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Speaker 1: Christmas and Dolly Parton's her fairy godmother. I want to say, um,

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Speaker 1: And you know, Christine Baranski like learns life lessons and

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Speaker 1: learns to love again and saves the town. And it

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Speaker 1: is a musical. The music is fine. Christine, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: is amazing. It's Christine is great. Dolly is great. She's

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Speaker 1: like at one point she's very tiny. She's like in

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Speaker 1: the cup holder and Christine Brandci's call her. That's sounds amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's actually rose that That wasn't movie magic. That's actually

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Speaker 1: how big Dolly Parton is in real life. Like that

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Speaker 1: was that is actually when I interviewed her, I held

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Speaker 1: her in my hand. Yeah, in your palm. You're like,

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Speaker 1: hello Dolly, Dolly. Yeah, like Julie Roberts Tinkerbell. Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: I I honestly now want to watch that. Maybe next Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe I'll get stone and watch it. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like that's a solo journey for you. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I'll be watching it again. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's something that ever needs to be revisited. Slide into

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Speaker 1: our d m s and let us know what's your

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Speaker 1: favorite Dolly Parton song. What's your favorite Dolly Parton movie? Um,

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Speaker 1: do you identify as um Backwoods Barbie or do you

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Speaker 1: identify as the Backwoods barb? Um Backwoods barb Next week

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Speaker 1: what as yet, Stay tuned UM until then, connect with

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