1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are going to 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: be exposing some truths today that you may not have 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: heard about when it comes to China being involved in 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: things in the United States. And that is specifically, if 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: China is involved, you need to understand that the CCP 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: is involved, that the Chinese government is involved. So we 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: decided we had to find someone who was an expert 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: on this. I've got Philip Linziki with us. He is 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: a senior investigative reporter for the Daily Caller News Foundation 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: and one of the most fervent China watchers in the 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: media space. So tell us what is going on? What 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: is the truth about what is going on with China 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: in the United States. We've reported extensively on Ghoshen here 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: because I'm here in Michigan. But I know and I 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: know you did a great job of covering that. Tell 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what is actually going on 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: and the true dangers of it. 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me on today. 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: And it's not good. It's not good. We're under a 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: check We've been under attack now for decades, and you know, 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: the short of it is that our leaders more or 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: less don't want to acknowledge that there is this Cold 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: War occurring, or when they do, it seems that they've 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: got some you know, memory issues, because just a showpik 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: later they'll go back to their old ways. We are seeing, 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, time and again that within really any sector 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: you can, you know, look at in the United States, 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: whether it's academia or business or politics, there is this 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: specter of Chinese influenced intelligence operations that can be discovered 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: with Really, as much as I'd like to think that 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: my work is that great, really it's it's open source ultimately, 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: and anyone that has the inclination to look for it 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: will be able to find it. And so that's what's 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: really concerning is that it's out in the open. 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I think that's been something that in Michigan we have 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: been somewhat like shocked by time and time again, because 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: we had the Chinese nationals that were spying on the 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: military base, we had the Chinese national who voted in 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: our election. Obviously, the Goshen story of the Chinese company 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: coming in and buying farmland and there was a lot 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: of corruption in that, and then the idea that they 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: were going to build a factory here that was also 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: close to military base. And then the most recent one, 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: which I think has somewhat scared the entire country, is 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: these Chinese nationals that were studying at the University of Michigan. 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: They brought in a bio weapon or hazard biohazardous material 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: that could have been turned into a bioweapon to research 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: here in the United States. And this came to light, 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: people started saying, wait, how does that even happen? But 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: to your point, it's sort of like it's kind of 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: like an open secret. It's not very hard to find. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Indeed, and so you know, to your last point, after 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: that story broke about the individuals at the University of Michigan, 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: I believe, you know, I went on to try to 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: figure out, okay, what is known about these folks that's 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: you know, still on the website for their alma mater 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: back in China, which I believe is the University of 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: ju Jong, And so I went on there, and indeed 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: you can find that, you know, one of these individuals 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: the members of the Chinesecamis party, and another uh you 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: know individual on Twitter found even more just after it broke. 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: So it raised a lot of questions and they're uncomfortable ones, 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: given that they are not certainly not the only individuals 64 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: within their department or in their school who speak Chinese, 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: and you'd think that their colleagues would have been able 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: to look into their backgrounds, and you know, just heavially 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: come upon this. We don't hear a lot about that. 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to believe that individuals are you know, informing 69 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: when they find these type of things in their purview. 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: But my suspicion is it happens less frequently than we'd like. 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, and I hate to say it, but it sounds 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: like some of these folks that are authorized, I mean, 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: you're not coming to the United States unless you are 74 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: authorized by the Chinese government. If you are a Chinese 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: citizen and you are studying in the United States, they 76 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: authorized you to come here, they signed off on the visa, 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: they signed off on everything. They're allowing you to be here. 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: We've too often heard that there are folks that are 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: over here and they're loyal regardless of being here. They 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: are still loyal to the CCP, whether they are working 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: for them or not. To come out and kind of 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: tattle would be somewhat unheard of, wouldn't it be. 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: You'd think so Yeah, the situation, by my lights, appears 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: to be that individuals come here for a number of 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: different reasons. You know, Opportunity is obviously a big one. 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: If you have a chance to study at Harvard or 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: work in a great company, I'm sure that that's something 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: that you're chomping the bit to do. However, with that 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: comes an issue, which is that this is likely going 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: to become known through your you know, visa application process 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, to the Chinese government that you 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: are now at Harvard or wherever you are. And from 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: what I hear, even if let's say, before you leave, 94 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: you're not approached by state security, oftentimes maybe when you 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: return you might be invited to, as they say, have 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: a cup of tea, and so at that point they 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: might just you know, pick your brain and find out 98 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 2: what all you're involved in and then plant some ideas 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: about things that would, you know, please the state where 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: it to occur. And I think that it's sort of 101 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: we have to imagine it's it's very mafia esque the 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: way that they operate, and there are oftentimes just implications 103 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: of what is required of you, and folks go along 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: it out of fear or out of you know, sympathy interesting. 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: So I want to dig in a little bit to 106 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Tim Walls. And I want to do this because we 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: watched throughout the election while he was talking about China 108 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and there was questions over his Chinese ties, and you 109 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: reported on his Chinese ties because I think a lot 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: of people were concerned about, well, why did you choose 111 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: to honeymoon there? Why did you live there for so long? 112 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: But recently when we went over and attacked Iron and 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: there was a conversation about how to bring peace, Tim 114 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Walls when he was asked, well, how do we do 115 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: this now? He said, I think the only moral authority 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: is China. No, you just talked about them as mafia, 117 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: mafia ask you know, and he's saying they're the only 118 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: moral authority. 119 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: That was outrageous that I can't believe you said that. 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: But what does that mean about who he is? 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: It means a moron and he's compromised. I mean, I 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: don't really know how to sugarcoat that. There are so 123 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: many signs that point to him either being compromised or 124 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: just being you know, room temperature, I Q and I'm 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: not really sure what's going on. He's certainly a smooth 126 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: talker at times and then other times you can just 127 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: see that he's in over his head. And so when 128 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: we investigated him, we found a number of disturbing realities. 129 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: So these unfortunately go back, you know, to the beginning 130 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: of his relationship with China, where you know, he's making 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: these trips, and we found that reported in you know, 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: the local and Nebraska papers. Back then he had brought 133 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: officials from a Chinese university who we determined were uh, 134 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, members of the Chinese Thomas Party over and 135 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 2: had them meet the students and you know, like likely 136 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: you know ingratiate themselves with the town generally. And this 137 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: trend continued through his life where he made maintain relationships 138 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: with certain individuals who were in these sort of dubious 139 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: positions and he began to benefit from them greatly, where 140 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: he was receiving you know, votes and money for his campaign. 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: And then eventually, in one of our pieces, we found 142 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: that he had appointed to the you know, States Asian 143 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: Affairs Commission an individual who himself is a member of 144 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: a minor political party in China and has been reporting 145 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: back and writing papers for their you know, Department of 146 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: Justice justice equivalent, So not a good. Look it's happening 147 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: right under his nose again and again. 148 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I think with elected officials. Tim Mault. 149 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: He's an interesting one because I think that, like you said, 150 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: he is either involved or he's naive about this, but 151 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: he almost comes off as childlike. And that was the 152 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: weird thing about choosing him as a running mate is 153 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: that I think they thought that that was how to like, 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: he was a guys guy. But for people who are 155 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: around me, masculine guy. 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: He's masculine though you know, he's going to get those 157 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: those guys to really vote. 158 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: That's what they thought, That's what they I mean, that's 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: what I'm like, what do they think guys are like? 160 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Because I felt he was very childlike. 161 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: And something weird is going on with him. I can't 162 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: put my finger on it, and I can't read minds, 163 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: but you know, there were certainly, you know, some interesting 164 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: glimpses into his psyche during his debate with Jadie Vance. Yeah, 165 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: and there were also some ugly moments, you know, on 166 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: stage with his son at one point if you recall, 167 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a dark side appearing. I don't know, 168 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: it's like to be on the campaign trail myself. I'm 169 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: sure it's quite stressful, so I'd like to be gracious 170 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: about that, but you know, it's concerning and I don't 171 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: know exactly what the reason was for selecting him. 172 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: So I think that the point here wanted. Something I 173 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: want to get to with talking about him is that 174 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: he was You talked about him having someone in government. 175 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Gretchen Whitmer has been very close to 176 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: the people of Goshen, and there's been some concern over 177 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: how close and how involved the local people were with 178 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: the CCP, and then the people that came over who 179 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: were becoming local people that were from the CCP. There's 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: a trend across the country, it seems, where we have 181 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Chinese nationals connected to the CCP getting into local governments 182 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: and state governments. I want to talk about La because 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: you recently broke a story about the La mayor, Karen 184 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: Bass having a Chinese national that was like feeding intel 185 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: back in her camp and this, and they were highly 186 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: connected and even the father I believe was connected to 187 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: the CCP. So explain a little bit about that. And 188 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of it is important to know that 189 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: whether or not you're elected official is aware that oftentimes 190 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: they are inviting an adversary right into your state or 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: local government. 192 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Certainly, and there's a long, you know, pattern that we 193 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: can see going back to you know, Dianne Feinstein and 194 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: this individual Russell Lowe, who was. 195 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yes, driver. 196 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: There's Eric Swallow with Fang Fang Feng Fang knew this 197 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: Russell low individual, you know, And we can see this 198 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: going on with Eric Adams and Winnie Greco with the 199 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: governor of New York local and Linda Son and lind 200 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: the Sun was working for Grace Mung. I mean, it 201 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: goes on and on, and now there's so many different 202 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: individuals where we've seen this same type of thing play out. 203 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: In the case of Aaron Bass, what happened there is 204 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: that there's an individual his name is Derek mas Chinese 205 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: name is Mashu Rong, and he is a member of 206 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: multiple Chinese influence and intelligence organizations according to federal sources. 207 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: So this individual had held fundraisers and press events for 208 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Bass with Bass in attendance, and his son Adam was 209 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: present at at least one of these, and at Bass's inauguration, 210 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Derek Ma and his wife appeared that took photos with her, 211 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: and at that time Chinese media reported that he was 212 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: very happy, and he said one of the reasons he 213 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: was happy was that his son had gotten a position 214 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: in Karen Bass's administration. And so at the start he 215 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: was on sort of like I believe, in an advisory 216 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: capacity for over overseeing appointments. And then that position has 217 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: sort of morphed into things having to do with again 218 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: Asian liaison and LGBT liaison or something like that. But 219 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: there's photos and video of them, you know, together in 220 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: a way that is different than just some random person. 221 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: This is them in a parade as the only two 222 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: people in passengers in the parade float car minus the driver, 223 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: again and again, and this raised a lot of questions. 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: Adam Ma to be very clear, the song, we didn't 225 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: find that he is connected to an intelligence agency. However 226 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: his father is. And we found that Adam and the 227 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: son is attending events thereafter on behalf of Bass with 228 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: you know, personnel from the Chinese consulate who belonged to 229 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 2: these influenced you know, outfits, and he's awarding his father 230 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: on behalf of Bass and so it certainly smacks of corruption. 231 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so, So how do you how do you 232 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: think that getting into cities like this is I mean, 233 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: what is the end game? Obviously LA is a massive 234 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: city in the United States and and a highly populated 235 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: city where you could do a lot of damage if 236 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to. But what is the endgame if you 237 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: are trying to do that. 238 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: It's a great question I to speculate. I would imagine 239 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: that based on their methods thus far, they are hoping 240 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: and I think unfortunately maybe right to hope that they 241 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: can destabilize us and defeat us without having to actually 242 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: go into a kinetic fight. And so given our system, 243 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: and as we're seeing with the mayor's race in New York, 244 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: you can have an individual who came to our country 245 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: six years ago who then runs the largest city in 246 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: the United States. And this is something that well sufficed 247 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: to say doesn't occur in China. And that is an 248 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: opportunity that is too good to pass up. So I 249 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: believe that there's evidence that they've made a calculated decision 250 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: to infiltrate our system through this process. And you know, 251 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: there's multiple components to it. There's legal immigration in order 252 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: to get you know, uh, you know, high census numbers 253 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: so that they can have additional representatives in certain areas. 254 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: There's efforts to have individuals you know, became become community 255 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: liaisons and then gain certain types of you know, government positions, 256 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: and then their efforts now underway to get individuals just 257 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: straight up elected into whatever positions that they can win. 258 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: And so, you know, the endgame, to put it into 259 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: one word, is colonization. They are colonizing US, as as 260 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: are many other nations and and factions. And so I 261 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: would encourage your viewers to think about China towns and 262 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: and things of that nature, not as China towns, but 263 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: rather as colonies they have. They have a foothold here 264 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:04,119 Speaker 2: and they're going to expand that and impose their rules 265 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: and systems on our soil. 266 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: There's no America towns in China. 267 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: No, not so much. 268 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: No, No, that would not be allowed. And I think 269 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: that's that was the message that we kept talking to 270 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: people about in Michigan and what's happening here. This is 271 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: not actually allowed in China. We can't go and have 272 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: our corporation, we can't buy land, we can't own land 273 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: in China. We can't have we can't own a building 274 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: in China. The United States can't own anything there. We 275 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: can work there, we can ship product here, but it 276 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: can't be owned by an American company, and I think 277 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: that's hard for people to wrap their heads around. Also 278 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: in China, they it's interesting that you mentioned that the 279 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: sun was his name, Adam Ma the son, that he 280 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: was involved in the LGBTQ community and working with that 281 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: community on behalf of the mayor, because that is also 282 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: not allowed in China. 283 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: True, and I don't know what his you know, sexual 284 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: persuasion is, but it's possible he might be of that community. 285 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: And you're absolutely right that it is frowned upon, we 286 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: might say, in China, they certainly don't allow it on 287 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: their you know, television. So interesting that that's occurring. But 288 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: the way that it works, I think generally is that 289 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: the their operatives here and I'm not suggesting that Adam 290 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: is one, but their operatives here are given a lot 291 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: more latitude than you know, we might imagine. And so 292 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: while the consulates are sort of the first or maybe 293 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: second layer of oversight, the first being sort of the 294 00:17:53,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: local civic associations, they are operate and I believe probably 295 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: even encouraged to maybe even compete against each other. For 296 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: you know, you know, influence in this area. So you 297 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: might have an individual who comes from a certain province 298 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: or you know, city in China who wants to succeed 299 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 2: in a in a given part of the United States 300 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: and then re benefits back for his home province or territory, 301 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: and he's competing against an individual from another part of China, 302 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: and they're both vying for that in the city of 303 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: New York or something like that. And whoever can ultimately, 304 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, get more selfies next to Eric Adams or 305 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: whatever it is and prove that he's got the closer 306 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: connection will be the one that ultimately gets favor from 307 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: the powers that be back there, and then they'll give 308 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: that person another you know, feather in their cap and say, okay, 309 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: well now we're going to have you do this next operation. 310 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of the way it works. 311 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: There is sort of an expectation that these organizations and 312 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: individuals will also ultimately fund their own operations and find 313 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: ways to make it work. 314 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 315 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I mean, there has been some 316 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: evidence that some of these groups have come in and 317 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: they have worked toward destabilization of the country. And I 318 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: think that even with the LGBTQ message, there's been a 319 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of fighting within that community and the conservative community. 320 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: So I feel like there has been an unnatural push 321 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: in certain areas to create a destabilization in the country. 322 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: There also, I mean, if you look at this biopotential 323 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: bioweapon that comes in, what that would do would cause 324 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: there to be a food shortage. So if you have 325 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: a few a food shortage, you also have destabilization. Then 326 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: suddenly you have chaos, you have fighting. What is this 327 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: situation where we have this shadow justice system in US city, 328 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: So tell us about a little bit about that. 329 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: And so what we found is that similar to and 330 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: connected to, in fact, the New York overseas Chinese Police 331 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: station that was housed within the America Chang Law Association. 332 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Connected to that, there is a system where the Supreme 333 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: People's procuratorret and its regional counterparts will use SCIA cific 334 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: associations around the world, partner with them more or less 335 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: deputize their leaders to serve as overseas mediators and liaisons 336 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: for the court. And so we found that there are 337 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 2: actively current on, you know, within the United States multiple 338 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: China civic associations that have set up you know, internal 339 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: courts and that they are actually you know, conducting hearings 340 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: through you know, Chinese encrypted platforms. And so the America 341 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: Chang Law Association, the organization that was running the overseas 342 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: police station in New York, we found that that organization 343 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: was also involved in this. So on top of running 344 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: a police station, they also had a court. So this 345 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: is really concerning given that individuals who have come here 346 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: and they might be seeking to just you know, more 347 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: or less make their own way and not have to 348 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: deal with China anymore, they might be suckered into sort 349 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: of participating in this. If should they have some type 350 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: of business relationship, you know, continuing to import or something 351 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: like that from China, their finances might be tied up, 352 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: and their family members might also be sort of under 353 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: the purview of the system. And so it's not impossible 354 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: to think that, given that the America Chungal Association was 355 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: apparently hunting dissidents on behalf of the Ministry of Public Security, 356 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: that it could be the case that in the past 357 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: or in the future, they might whisk you away from 358 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: you know, the street one day and the next minute, 359 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: you're who knows, in a warehouse face to face with 360 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: a large monitor, and on the other side of the 361 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: monitor is a couple judges and your brother and they're 362 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: asking me to do something or else. So that those 363 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: are certainly the concerns. 364 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, and I think that is that's a concern for 365 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: American people that wow, there could be somebody who is 366 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: living in the US legitimately who is then manipulated by 367 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a foreign entity. But also if you're setting these up, 368 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: then why not be for us? Why not be concerned 369 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: that there would be you talked about a Cold war? 370 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: At what point does this just become a takeover if 371 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: we're not careful And then they're like, oh, we've already 372 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: got this set up. It's perfect, this can expect to 373 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: the home country. 374 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of shocking to me that when it came 375 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: to you know, the War on Terror and you know 376 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: recent reports about certain things occurring in Texas, there was 377 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: I think a pretty uniform uproar concerning like sharia courts. 378 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: Folks all were like, we don't want that whatever's going 379 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: on in Dearborn, Michigan or whatever else, like, we don't 380 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: want to be a part of that. In the South, 381 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: the American way. But for this story, I think that 382 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: while there was some you know, understandable concern about overseas 383 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: police stations the courts, you know, more broadly, there wasn't 384 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: that same type of reaction that the Sharia courts are received. 385 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: And I think it's likely that the Chinese dr propaganda 386 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: is just better, you know, and then you just have 387 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: more money and the people are on board, and so 388 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: it's a shame to see, but they're difficult to actually 389 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: find what the difference is when it gets right down 390 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: to it. 391 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: So I let's get into farmland, because the Secretary of 392 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: agricult Culture has come out and said she's going to 393 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: crack down on the CCP coming in in buying up farmland, 394 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: and I think that there has been also some confusion 395 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: among Americans about what this exactly means. And sometimes the 396 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Chinese are coming in and they're buying farmland and they're 397 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: actually farming it. But there's a weird scenario. She recently 398 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: held up a map of the United States and said 399 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: for the media, I want to be clear, these are 400 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: where the farms are owned that are CCP owned farms 401 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: in the United States, and then the red dots are 402 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: actually US army bases or US military bases that these 403 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: farms seems to surround. And oftentimes they will buy plots 404 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: of land all around that army base or that military 405 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: base so that they completely surround the base. That seems 406 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: a little suspicious. 407 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: Indeed, and you know, I think that this conversation needs 408 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: to be you know, prefaced with a reminder about what 409 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: has just occurred in both Russia and in Iran where 410 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: attacks were launched, you know, from within their countries against 411 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: their military assets by drones and other you know, weaponry. 412 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: So that that could occur here in the United States. 413 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: That it's some type of you know, company with Chinese 414 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: owned or property could launch an attack is not science fiction. 415 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: That is you know what the next Pearl Harbor would 416 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: likely look like, you know, in my own opinion, And 417 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: so yes, certainly there is you know, I believe when 418 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: I I had to tabulate it before, over five hundred 419 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: thousand acres likely that is US land on by Chinese entities, 420 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: which is higher than what the US government was reporting 421 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: at the time. One of the factors for that was 422 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: we discovered that an individual named ten Tanshao CCP member 423 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: we found was you know, the owner of a one 424 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety eight thousand acres or something like that, 425 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: I believe. And so when you start adding these things up, 426 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: you come to that same of picture that I believe 427 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: that that map is showing. And it's a it's an 428 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: ugly one because you know, when we saw the recent 429 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: military strike in Iran, those bombers took off, they were 430 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: we were told multiple times, and it was, you know, 431 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: something something to be proud of that these bombers took 432 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: off from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. Well, guess 433 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: what Whiteman Air Force Base is, you know, one of 434 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: those things on that map, and there is land right 435 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: around there. We reported on the companies that are that 436 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: have been trying to uh set up right near Kansas City, 437 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: and you know, found that they have all these all 438 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: the wrong type of ties. We'll just put that way. 439 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: And so it is occurring and in your own state, 440 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: uh and in Illinois as well, this company of Gooshin. 441 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, really it's just you keep pulling on that 442 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: string and just keep finding more and more and more 443 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: nefarious connections that they have that they just pretend like, 444 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, don't exist. 445 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what that is certainly what we found, 446 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's very scary being in the state 447 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: of Michigan, but also, like you said, Illinois and other 448 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: states and everywhere this land is being purchased. We've heard 449 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: about this for years. I have to say that I'm 450 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: impressed that we're four or five six months. Well, what 451 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: we're almost six months into the Trump administration and now 452 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: we already have cabinet secretaries that are looking into this, 453 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: We're already having announcements on this. This is something that 454 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: for years we had people saying, we're very concerned about 455 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: what's going on with these Chinese being able to come 456 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: in and purchase And again I say that because you 457 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: can't do that in China. You can't go purchase farmland 458 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: in China. So why don't we protect our own farmland, 459 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: especially when we are seeing this surrounding our military basis. 460 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: But I know you've been out there and you have 461 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: been really, really on top of this, really forcing the issue, 462 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: making people look at what's actually going on in China. 463 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: I know people are going to want to follow you. 464 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Where do they follow you. 465 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Well, you can find me on x and my handle 466 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: is Lenziki Philip such should be easy for you to spell. 467 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, that's where I can be found. Or 468 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: head on over to the Daily Call, the Daily Call 469 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: on news Foundation and it hype and Philip, I'm sure 470 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: you'll find me. 471 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: So okay, it is not easy to spell it is 472 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: ellie and c z y c ki. 473 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: Wow. That was like a test for girls if they were, 474 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: you know, dating material, if they could spell them that 475 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: they liked you. So I like you, Tutor. 476 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: That's it. Well I have to learn how to say it. So, 477 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Philip Linziki, thank you so much. 478 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 479 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much. 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