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Speaker 1: I heart radio. Nick. So much has changed over the

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Speaker 1: they are all trying to take each other's power grids

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Speaker 1: and and all of us are involved. And when I

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Speaker 1: at figuring this stuff out. Because but it's what is

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Speaker 1: it driven by? Is driven by fear, you know, which

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Speaker 1: And that is somewhat contagious. And and I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: and he's condemning himself, right, He's talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, are you creating the image and likeness

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Speaker 1: of God? Do you believe that? It's in your book?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Oh? Yeah, I believe it. Then

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Speaker 1: why are you condemning yourself? That sounds like blasphemy to

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Speaker 1: And that began a twelve hour conversation that was quite interesting,

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Speaker 1: and it certainly changed him. Listen to more Coast to

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