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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, it is your man if Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the NFL Fantasy Live podcast.

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Speaker 1: Joined behind the glass, I producer Pristine and interesting. How

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Speaker 1: you doing. Are you doing well? Good weekend? I presume

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Speaker 1: pretty good weekend? Always too short, always too short. But

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Speaker 1: we were in the training camp and UH just wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about So first off, I should probably address

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Speaker 1: the elephants in the room. Uh, this is a podcast

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Speaker 1: in transition. For a number of years, we had a

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Speaker 1: lot of really good stuff and a lot of really

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Speaker 1: fun stuff. Uh. But as all good things in life,

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Speaker 1: are all gonna do good and awful and awful not awful,

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Speaker 1: awesome things wherever they are. I love them. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: life moves on, and so do we. So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a different podcast, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little more stripped down streamlined than what you have been

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Speaker 1: used to. Hopefully, over the next weeks and months and

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe even years, you will hear some familiar voices,

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Speaker 1: you hopefully hear some new voices. And it's a show

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Speaker 1: that I hope retains the spirits of the one that

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Speaker 1: you all fell in love with, you know, however, or

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Speaker 1: whenever you did, Hopefully I continue to do it justice

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you enjoy listening to it. So that's it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: things I look out for today. You have a guest

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Speaker 1: coming on the Jake Seeley of Rhodo Experts and the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Sports Network will join me a little bit later,

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Speaker 1: but plenty to talk talk about. In fact, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start it with all the news you need to know,

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Speaker 1: all right. We will start in Buffalo. Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: taking first team reps in Bill's camp. The number seven

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Speaker 1: Friday that he started working with the Ones. Now head

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Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott says, the competition is open for the

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Speaker 1: McCarron as the other quarterbacks in camp. But whoever ends

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Speaker 1: up winning that job, the thing that you're gonna want

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Speaker 1: to look at is the wide receiving CORPS mean Kelvin

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Speaker 1: Last year split time between Carolina and Buffalo, forty eight catches,

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Speaker 1: on average. There Next up is Za Jones, who led

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Speaker 1: the Bills receivers and targets last year with seventy four

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Speaker 1: the non football injury list after shoulder and knee surgeries

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Speaker 1: in the off season, was seen running sprints on Sunday

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Speaker 1: per Joe Biscalia of w k b W. But right

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Speaker 1: now Jones is undrafted in plenty of fantasy leagues. Bills

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Speaker 1: to know who the Bills leader in targets and receptions was, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that starting quarterback job, whether it's Josh Allen or it's

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Speaker 1: In fact, making things even worse, Bill will face three

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Speaker 1: They're very optimistic for the Buffalo Bills. More quarterback news,

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes says the Cardinals starting quarterback job is Sam

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Speaker 1: Bradford's to lose. Bradford signed a two year, forty million

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Speaker 1: weeks later, the Cardinals drafted Josh rose and number ten overall,

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Speaker 1: So how you like them apples? But per Wilkes, the

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Speaker 1: current depth chart of Sam Bradford at the top, Mike Glennon,

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Speaker 1: USA Today, this could be a new wrinkle in the

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Speaker 1: of Dez Bryant. Of course, Bryant in the headlines over

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Speaker 1: falls back. And that's just if he drops some targets

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Speaker 1: because of the offensive Tyrod Taylor not throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: as much. Now you add in that next level as

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Speaker 1: you're saying with Tyrod Taylor's usage of his slot receivers,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we've heard some whispers of Jarvis

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Speaker 1: Landry moving outside more, which he only spent I think

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Speaker 1: it was. I think you've probably seen the number two

435
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Speaker 1: is sixty sixty percent of the time in the plot

436
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Speaker 1: last year, so he's outside more than people think. But

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Speaker 1: I am concerned about Jarvis Landry on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: Mar because I'm sure it's the same for you. If

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon does end up not playing, I think we

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Speaker 1: can throw that out the window. No. Absolutely, I mean

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Speaker 1: so much of this right now kind of banks on

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Speaker 1: on Josh Gordon. I still I keep still holding onto

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Speaker 1: the fact that I think I think this is I'm

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Speaker 1: taking it too face value. I think I think Josh

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Speaker 1: Gordon just needs a break, just the time to get

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Speaker 1: himself ready. I don't think there's anything serious. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to believe the Browns on this one. So I

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Speaker 1: think I think Gordon's gonna be there. Uh, and it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna have a major impact, uh, you know, on

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Speaker 1: on what Jarvis Landry and those guys do. Talking to

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Speaker 1: Jake Seeley from Ronto Experts and Fantasy Sports Network, you

452
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Speaker 1: back in early May wrote about Royce Freeman and Ronald Jones,

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Speaker 1: and at the time you had Royce Freeman ahead of

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Speaker 1: Rojoe in this one. Obviously, now that we're into camp,

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Speaker 1: are you still feeling that way? Less so because of

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Speaker 1: the usage, But I am still I'm a fan of both.

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Speaker 1: And the breakdown of this article really came down to

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Speaker 1: try to explain the projections process and explain why Royce

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Speaker 1: Freeman had it was narrowly, I think it was one

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Speaker 1: or two spots at the time was beating out Ronald Jones.

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Speaker 1: And it came down to touchdowns. And we know this.

462
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Speaker 1: It's it's very difficult to predict touchdowns at fantasy football,

463
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Speaker 1: and if you try to only do so, it's a

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Speaker 1: fool there. And honestly, but what I did in this article,

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Speaker 1: and this is just a good picture for all situations,

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Speaker 1: not just Freeman versus Jones, is looking at the usage.

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Speaker 1: And this is what we do as a fantasy community,

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Speaker 1: as analysts and do, was look at the usage of

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Speaker 1: what the team does inside the twenty, inside the ten,

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Speaker 1: inside the five, and then look at their effective rate

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Speaker 1: of how many times are they scoring on those touches?

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Speaker 1: Are they passing more than their rushing? And what I

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Speaker 1: drove into and found is we already kind of knew

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Speaker 1: as much as we've watched football. Like like I said

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Speaker 1: at the top of the article, was I felt by

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Speaker 1: watching enough of the Buccaneers they were very good inside

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Speaker 1: the red zone and running the ball, and digging into this,

478
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Speaker 1: I found out that's exactly true. And the majority of

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Speaker 1: their success actually was Winston anyway, so when you pull

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Speaker 1: out Winston, it gets even worse. So despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that I had Freeman and Jones with the around the

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Speaker 1: same amount of yards total, the touchdown had a bigger

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Speaker 1: gap of almost three because despite the fact that Broncos

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Speaker 1: also struggled last year, there are reasons for that, including

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Speaker 1: they started four different guys on the right side of

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. They made a trade on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line this past season the belt here, so there are

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Speaker 1: reasons to expect them to get better, especially somebody who

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Speaker 1: compound the ball like Freeman does. Who I know that

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Speaker 1: you're a fan of two, So it's still neck and

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Speaker 1: neck for me. But it comes down to the fact

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Speaker 1: while Ronald Jones might have more yards, that the touchdowns

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Speaker 1: are more likely to come because of the style of

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Speaker 1: their offenses and Freeman's ability himself. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: like Royce Freeman. I don't think I ever jumped on

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Speaker 1: the way a lot of other fantasy analysts have. I

497
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Speaker 1: know there was a big Freeman bandwagon. I was sort

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Speaker 1: of hesitant. Which question is that do you see him

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Speaker 1: just kind of grabbing hold of this study, starting gig

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Speaker 1: in the backfield or do you think we're gonna end

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Speaker 1: up with some sort of committee with DeVante Booker. See,

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Speaker 1: I think this could turn out a lot like the

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Speaker 1: Titans version of their well, their version of Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: and Dan Lewis, where Booker might I'm as a today,

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Speaker 1: I still think Freeman is going to be the lead.

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Speaker 1: And I still think Freeman is going to lead in

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Speaker 1: yards and lead in production, lead on first and second down,

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Speaker 1: lead a short yeard. I mean, that's just you bring

509
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Speaker 1: in that kind of guy, and that's what he's there for.

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Speaker 1: He's to be the lead option DeVante book Or to

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Speaker 1: be the compliment and the past catching option. And as

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Speaker 1: we're talking today as training camp, so there's new flying

513
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Speaker 1: around everywhere and first team snaps people still think means

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Speaker 1: something at this point. So everything's like, oh, Booker is

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Speaker 1: getting all this work, and well, you know what, would

516
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Speaker 1: it surprise me if Booker forces this to be a situation.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Because I like Booker's talent coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: You can go back and read my write up of him.

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Speaker 1: He was inside my top five running backs that year.

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Speaker 1: I also like Freeman a lot, and I like Freeman's power.

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Speaker 1: I think they complement each other very well. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I say I could see this being a Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry and be On Lewis type of situation where they're

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Speaker 1: used in similar roles. And if we got to the

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Speaker 1: end of the season you told me that DeVante Booker

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Speaker 1: has more production, but the Rose Freeman end up with

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Speaker 1: more touches, it wouldn't surprise me. I still think Freeman's

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Speaker 1: got more to offer than Derrick Henry, especially in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, but that's where I lean as of today.

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Speaker 1: I think this is one of those situations where I

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Speaker 1: will probably not get any of Royce Freeman and get

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Speaker 1: a lot of Booker because he's going so much cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Right now, which which rookie running back are you most

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Speaker 1: hyped about this year? So if you just told me

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Speaker 1: rankings wise, if he Darius Guy's number two. But as

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Speaker 1: in the person that I'm going to apparently die on

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Speaker 1: the hill with and I planted my flag in and

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Speaker 1: every cliche you can throw out, it's Rashad Penny. I

539
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Speaker 1: was going into the draft, I said Rashad Penny was

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Speaker 1: going to be this year's Kareem Hunt because I was

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Speaker 1: expecting him to get overlooked by NFL teams too, and

542
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Speaker 1: then Seattle surprised me. The Seahawks jumped up into the

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Speaker 1: first round. I said, oh wow, somebody's respecting this dude

544
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Speaker 1: as much as I am. And you look at Rashad

545
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Speaker 1: Penny and I said, during this draft of us, elusive

546
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Speaker 1: is his middle name. This guy knows how to get

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Speaker 1: out of any potential threatening tackle situation. I think he had,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it was either number one or

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Speaker 1: number two most broken tackles at the at the level

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Speaker 1: of college last year. That's pretty easy to do when

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Speaker 1: you're putting up over two thousand yards. But you just

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Speaker 1: also and I think you'll understand this, and that the

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Speaker 1: people listening are smart that will understand this. Is what

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Speaker 1: I say. He can knows how to find the end zone. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, players know where the en zone is, but

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Speaker 1: just that that extra it's it's hard. You know what

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Speaker 1: it is that you want football and it's not really

558
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: anything you can measure. When you could just say this

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00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: guy knows how to get your turn a play into

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Speaker 1: yards and get to the end zone and score. And

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Speaker 1: then there're thing about Rashard Petty two is a lot

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00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: of people were saying, well, what about his pass blocking?

563
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: It's not very good. But if you look at it,

564
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: we didn't have a very good sample of him in college.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a huge amount of plays where because you

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Speaker 1: look at the offense he's coming from, it's not like

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Speaker 1: he was used in past blocking every single drive down

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Speaker 1: the field. And now we here Schottenheimer coming out and

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Speaker 1: saying he's an excellent pass blocking. So I think is

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Speaker 1: going to surprise a lot of people. I have been

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Speaker 1: taking him as early as the third round. You're not

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Speaker 1: worried about Chris Carson. H You know what, it's funny

573
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Speaker 1: you say that. I did. I say funny, But everybody

574
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Speaker 1: has got revisionist history on Chris Carson. The gut. The

575
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Speaker 1: guy had one good game. Look at look at the

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00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: four games he played. He had one good game. But

577
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Speaker 1: because that backfield is so miserable, people are like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson was amazing. No what your game, and credit

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Speaker 1: to him. It was a good game, it was, but

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Speaker 1: other three games were matt He scored a touchdown on

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Speaker 1: one of them. So maybe that's why excuse a little

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Speaker 1: bit for fantasy wise, it looks like he has two

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Speaker 1: good fantasy games. Chris Carson was almost undrafted. You don't

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Speaker 1: have a team going invest first round capital and running

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Speaker 1: back this day and age and not give him every

586
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to be the guy versus the seventh round running back.

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00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: Draft capital does matters to a certain degree at certain times.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Jake Seely from experts in the Fantasy Sports Network,

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00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: all right, why why aren't we talking more about Ricky

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00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Seals Jones. I don't know. And you told the article

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Speaker 1: that I have from May where I said Ricky Steelers

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Speaker 1: Jones is gonna be this year's breakout tight end. I

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Speaker 1: really don't get it. And I've been gobbling up right,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Seels Jones as and if I miss on the

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph or Trey Burton, that kind of second tier

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Speaker 1: of tight end, and I have to end up waiting

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Speaker 1: and double down on tight end and take guys later

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Speaker 1: liking and Joko. The one that I've been getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of is the Ricky Steelers Jones because if you

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Speaker 1: look at the way he finished last season was great.

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Speaker 1: If you look at this scenario, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: there's a potential that Josh Rosen starts Week one and

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Speaker 1: then you have the the narratives that rookie tight ends

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Speaker 1: or not. Rookie quarterbacks always love tight ends all but

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Speaker 1: let's just say that he doesn't. Let's say saying Bradford

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Speaker 1: somehow stays healthy. Sam Bradford has statistical backup of loving

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00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: this tight end. And granted he's played with some really

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Speaker 1: good ones, but he is very efficient, very uh of

609
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Speaker 1: productive going to the tight end. And I look at

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Speaker 1: that type of situation. If nothing else, Ricky Seals Jones

611
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: should get off to a hot start, and you who

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Speaker 1: look at him size and skills wise, he's a matchup

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Speaker 1: problem and we saw that at the end of last year. Now,

614
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Speaker 1: do I think he's gonna average that much in the

615
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: yards for catch basis? Absolutely not. But if you get

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Speaker 1: a more production and game to game basis, and you

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00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: look at this team and you say, Larry Fitzgerald, all right,

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Speaker 1: who's up next? Chad Williams, maybe Christian Kirk to rookie

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Speaker 1: who they want right now? Behind Larry Fitzgerald. We know

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Speaker 1: what David Johnson is coming out of the backfield for

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00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: probably about ninety targets himself. But you know who else

622
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Speaker 1: is your Bryce Butler in J. J. Nelson, You can

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Speaker 1: go down the line. Honestly, right now, Ricky Steels Jones,

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Speaker 1: it might be their second best, if not their best,

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Speaker 1: red zone threat. And nothing changes for you if Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen ends up as a starter over Sam Bradford. Huh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Josh Rosen to me, was the

628
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: most NFL ready quarterback of this draft class. I think

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Speaker 1: there's some that have a higher ceiling, obviously with Baker

630
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Speaker 1: Mayfield and Mark Jackson, especially fantasy wise with Mark Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But he told me Josh Rosen was starting week one.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll see the same rapport that you would

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Speaker 1: and if that's happening, that's because Josh Rosen has proven

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Speaker 1: that he's ready, all right, Jake, uh Switching gears away

635
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: from football. You mentioned at the top here something about Vultron,

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Speaker 1: and you and I are are sort of Vultron. There's

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Speaker 1: I guess, and this whole thing. I gotta ask if

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Speaker 1: there's if there is one piece of current pop culture, movie, TV, music, whatever,

639
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: that that everybody needs to experience, what is it and why?

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Speaker 1: I think you know the answer, And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you because you stay unless you've done something since the

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Speaker 1: last time we've talked. I'm gonna hammered over your head.

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Speaker 1: I I if I if it is what I think

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Speaker 1: is Final Space. This was I went into this show.

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Speaker 1: I saw commercials for it for the longest time on

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Speaker 1: commercials and stuff like that. And I saw this and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, whatever, I'll check that show out.

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Speaker 1: I like Futurama, still watch that Vulturo and I still

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Speaker 1: watched plenty of my own cartoons for Adult Wise, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'll give it a try.

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Speaker 1: And man, was I hooked from day one. This show

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Speaker 1: took me by surprise because for the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: not just hilarious. The animation is amazing. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, if you just started the episode one,

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Speaker 1: by the time you get to a round episode three,

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Speaker 1: it really hits the stride animation wise. But there's so

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Speaker 1: much character development and emotion and depth, and like the

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Speaker 1: fact it just I was surprised at how good this

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Speaker 1: show is. I told actually had Owen Rodgers on the

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Speaker 1: podcast because I actually connected with him on Twitter. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: your show was flipping awesome. I watched on the show

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Speaker 1: and he came on and I told him this. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's probably one of the best compliments he's ever received.

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Speaker 1: I said, it was like New Adventures movie. To me,

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Speaker 1: it was just action, entertaining, and then the emotion catches

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Speaker 1: you that you weren't expecting to have watching the show.

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Speaker 1: I would tell you that first episode it packs a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot of story that it introduce you to a

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Speaker 1: lot of characters. Is a lot going on in that

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Speaker 1: first episodes. Like I said, I am on episode two,

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Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to it. I appreciate the recommendation. Um,

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Speaker 1: please please do that last thing for you? Uh what

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Speaker 1: what drives you crazier right now? Ranking kickers or being

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Speaker 1: a Mets fan. Well, so I don't have the rank kickers,

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Speaker 1: so I don't do it. I refused. I have refused

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Speaker 1: my entire career. You can go to my ranking and

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Speaker 1: then you'll go through and scroll to the right, and

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Speaker 1: when you get the defenses, it stops because there's no kickers.

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Speaker 1: I don't I refused. I will not do it. So

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Speaker 1: it is a Mets fan. Although I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: I've kind of boycotted the Mets. Now. Look, I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: So it's so funny you asked that, Marcus, because I

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Speaker 1: went through my phone and like through my apps where

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Speaker 1: it's like save your favorites. I deleted the Mets. I

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Speaker 1: was tired of looking at they're off my favorites. I

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Speaker 1: am done with the Mets. Ah, that's that's that's really funny. Actually,

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Speaker 1: so I can appreciate it. Good, Look, I can appreciate

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Speaker 1: I spent a couple of years. I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: been a forty Niners fan, but there were a few

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Speaker 1: years and they were really bad. I made the decision

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Speaker 1: to sort of emotionally divorce myself from them because I

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Speaker 1: just I didn't want to be angry every Sunday. So

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Speaker 1: I understand exactly, like, what are you gonna do? It's

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Speaker 1: all got the Wilpons are in power. I can't. You

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Speaker 1: can't can't, you can't. You can't act like if three

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Speaker 1: million dollars matters to you, just not as a baseball franchise,

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Speaker 1: but also a baseball franchise in New York, you have

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Speaker 1: no business on it, but you know what it gave

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Speaker 1: us Bobby Boni a day, which is is pretty would

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Speaker 1: we get to celebrated for another fifteen years something like that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's awesome. Hey, great stuff. Jake as always

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Speaker 1: be good man. Huh oh, you do the same. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on thanks to Jake Celia. Of

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Speaker 1: course you can check him out at Rhotal Experts and

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Speaker 1: on the Fantasy sport It's Network. Always a good guy

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Speaker 1: to talk to, always a good guy to follow. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you are checking up on what he is doing there.

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Speaker 1: But so before we get out of here, it is

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Speaker 1: time I would like to call the b s o

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Speaker 1: h L Chronicles. Please give me that beat, if you will.

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Speaker 1: All right, at the start of every training camp, no

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Speaker 1: matter the sport, he always guys who have guys who

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Speaker 1: show up. They want to show off what their training

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Speaker 1: regimen was in the off season. They always tell us

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Speaker 1: about how they are in the best shape of their lives.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's a phenomenon that started mostly with

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. But you know what, why should we

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Speaker 1: let baseball guys have all the fun? Right? There are

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Speaker 1: plenty of guys in the National Football League who claimed

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Speaker 1: to be I like to call it hashtag b s

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Speaker 1: O h L. We'll start in Arizona. David Johnson, who

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Speaker 1: Mr know the all the last season where a risk injury,

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Speaker 1: says he is in the best shape of his life

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Speaker 1: because all he did was run, and all I did

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Speaker 1: was work out. You may need to be in the

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Speaker 1: best shape of your life. The uere David Johnson, because

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Speaker 1: there's not much in that Cardinals offense, and you're going

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Speaker 1: to get an extremely heavy workload. Speaking of heavy w

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Speaker 1: it's not quite as heavy as he was last year.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars running back says he's down to two dree

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Speaker 1: or two hundred and twenty four pounds. That's the way

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Speaker 1: he played at when he was trucking defenders at L

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Speaker 1: s U. The Jaguars likely to lean on their running

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Speaker 1: back a little bit more this year, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: if having a slimmer figure helps keep him healthy and

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Speaker 1: fresh for the entirety of sixteen games over the Chargers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams didn't exactly say he was in the best

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Speaker 1: shape of his life. He talked about his back and

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Speaker 1: saying that it limited him from doing some things. But

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Speaker 1: he says, now my back is right, I'm healthy and

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. I hope so, because with no Hunter

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Speaker 1: Henry that means Mike Williams can be on the field

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Speaker 1: more this year. Chargers may have to lean on him

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Speaker 1: in their passing game. Finally, Ben Roethlisburger, since this isn't

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Speaker 1: the best shape of his fifteen year career. I always

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Speaker 1: thought that tackling Ben Roethlisberger was sort of like tackling

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Speaker 1: a building. This is probably even worse news for defenders.

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Speaker 1: The question is son keep him healthy for an entire season.

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Speaker 1: You've seen any best always tell examples? Please tweet him

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Speaker 1: at me at Marcus G. Please include the hashtag b

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Speaker 1: s O h L so that will do it. For

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Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast, big thanks

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Speaker 1: to Jake Seely from the Proto Experts and Fantasy Sports

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Speaker 1: death stopping him. Course, thanks to you for being producer

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Speaker 1: Christina as well. And always remember your lost column be

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Speaker 1: empty or your waiver wire be full for the fantasy stronghold.

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Speaker 1: There forever see y'all Thursday. I don't know