1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys tuning in. This is Off the Edge 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: with Cam Jordan me your host, So thank you for 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: tuning into our episode at twenty twenty three. It's now 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and tell your friends about us, you know, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: off the average. We got them guests, We got the 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: host with the most. Everything that we do, we do 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: real bib, we do, real loud. We do with everything 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: that we got. It's gotta be fully committed into this thing. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: So this episode, we're gonna get into the Saints beating 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks. We're gonna talk about our playoff hopes, our hopes, 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: our dreams are aspirations. We're gonna talk about you know 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: who we're interviewing this week, my former teammate, a dog, 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: a guy who's tied with the lead lead for sacks 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL defensive end edge rusher, Trey Henderson. And 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: we're also gonna get you know, just the thoughts on 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the New Year's resolutions. If you guys believe in a 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: great you know, we talk about it. I may bring 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: up a resolution or two. We'll see what happens. So 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: stick with us, stick with us. Thing that we do 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: we do a big This is Off the edge. Tune in, 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, so let's start it off. Look, Week seventeen, 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, our sixteenth game, we got we got to 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: five hundred. We had to beat the Bucks. We had 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: to go to Tampa Bay fly down. It was warm, 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: it was the weather was great. You know, Tampa Bay 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: treated us really well. Walked in, walked out with the 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: with the w It takes all eleven, you know, on 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and both sides of the ball. 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: Got it done, I mean judiciously, if you shout. We 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: started off on on offense, and offense scored on the 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: first drive. Car takes the snaff, middle of the pocket. 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Froze caught far side, touchdown, Joe Wann Johnson second straight 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Week four touchdown. That's the Saints converge on a third 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: and goal, and that's what you want to do. Take 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the ball, drive it right down their throats. Now I've 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: learned after the game. That was when you know, that 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: was the first time this season that office court on 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the opening drive, and I say, hey, seven points is 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot, and we can do a little with the 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: we can do a lot with the little. We do 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: the most with a lot. So you know, we took 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: the lead and really never looked back. Defense took over 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: and I think the first series was three and out. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: So you started fast on both sides of the ball. 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Been preaching this all year. Start fast, we can get strong, 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: We get strong. You finished strong, come on, you know, 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and had tattoo sacks, could have had four. Brian Mazee 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: somehow got a face mask penalty off of a sack, 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: but he grabbed the top of Baker Mayfield's head, pulled 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: a scout back, you know, and they said it was 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: a face mask. I was like, no face mask is 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, in front of the face, grab the mask, mask, 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: may have to shake, could possibly hurt the player's neck. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: That was not the case. He grabbed the top of 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the helmet, top of the dome, that's the top of 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the helmet. Anyways, they called a flag and that wouldn't 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: be the only you know, discrepancy we had for refs, 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: you know this past game because after the game they're 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: starting left tackle Wurfs had commented about a late hit 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: put on on Baker Mayfield took another late hit right 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: and you guys have had that against the Saints. Are 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: you tired of kind of what goes on after the 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: whistle there with them. 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am ninety three. Did it last first game? Right? 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: And tire Matthew did this game any striping of the refs? 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: And he didn't. But that's part of football. 67 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Bake's a tough, tough guy, tough bastard. 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, chuck it on. I don't know. I can't say 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: anything else. 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: And I'm confused on that because it's not a late hit. 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: It was a great hit. The tyre Matthews, you know, 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: in the in the red zone, comes down, hits Bacon 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: mill Mayfield in the chest as he's you know, after 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: right as he released the ball, Like that's what you're 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: supposed to do as a defensive player. You're supposed to 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: hit quarterbacks. So I'm just confused. You know, flag was 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: thrown and I'm not sure why other than to make 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: the game more exciting because you know, he had scored 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: on that play, but the receiver had already been out 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: of bounds, and if as receiver gets pushed out of bounds, 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: he can't be the guy the first guy to touch 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the ball. That's just is what it is. On a 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: scrambled play where Baker Mayfield had got out of the 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: pocket and was running towards pylon or and had to 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, settle for a great throw to a wide 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: receiver that had re established himself back in bounds. But 87 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: that's just it. You can't re establish yourself in bounds 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: on that type of play. You know, it was a 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: smart play by our defense. But when I talk about 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Abram, you know, he had sort of been inactive 91 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: for the most part of the year. I think he's 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: seen some playing time, but this game he made himself known. 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: He came in talking, talking heavy, and this is the 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: game that he wanted. You know, he wanted a chance 95 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: and opportunity to show what he could do. And he 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: got it on the field and showed out interception forrest fumble, 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: stunt coming seized his throat, intercepted. Jonathan Abram has it. 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: He had the force fumbled before he's got the interception. Now, 99 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: could have had a sack, fell off of a sack, 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: you know, like could have had one, could have had 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: filled every stat line on the sheet, you know, five tackles, 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: TfL there was. He had a hell of a game. 103 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: My dog Jonathan Abram was out there eating or a 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: guy from the silp went to Mississi State. You know, 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: playing up the Raiders came over to us. You'd love 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to see a guy uh capture the potential of each 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: and every play and he lived. He lived that game 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: like I love. I love this type of success that 109 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: he had. And you think about the Bucks offense, I mean, 110 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: they're pretty much shut down the first the first let's 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: call it what it is, first forty five minutes, three 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: quarters of the game, and then that that last quarter 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: they were trying to sling you know, they're trying to 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: play catch up and threw some prayers up that were answered, 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: and that's just you know, the end of the game, 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: the Bucks. Bucks get left with the l and we 117 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: left with the w as we needed to to keep 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: our playoff hopes alive. That's what we needed. You know, 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: I wish I could sit here and say, you know, 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: we would have won the Rams game and then this 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: game and then the next game. We would have easily 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: had our destiny in our hands. We don't have that anymore, 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, we have we had to beat the Bucks. 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Beat the Bucks. We have to beat Atlanta to have 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: our playoff hopes some you know, be answered. We have 126 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: we have prayer, we have playoff prayers and I would 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: love them to be answered this year. You know, all 128 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: we need is a chance, a ticket to the dance. 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you can get a ticket to the playoffs, 130 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: you crazy things can happen. You know, we could turn this, 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: turn this into a phenomenal story. And you know, I 132 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: think as we sit currently, we beat Atlanta, green Bay 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: has to lose to Chicago, which Justin Fields is electric 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: right now. And then Seattle has to lose to the Cardinals, 135 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: which Kyler Murray just put you know, put a team 136 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: last week on his back end and carry him to 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: a victory. So you know, there's there's there's two possible 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: routes that we can go to win. I'm just saying. 139 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: But to be clear, we have to win. Bucks have 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: to lose, or we have to win Seattle and green 141 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Bay have to lose. It's that simple. We got two 142 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: we got two chances at this. I'm not sure. All 143 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: I know is we have to focus on what we 144 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: can focus on, and that is to win this game. 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: So going in the week eighteen versus Falcons hate Week, 146 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, hometown hate week, they got to come to 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: us and we gotta lock the doors behind us, put 148 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: our pads on and get get ready. You know, we 149 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: gotta go get ready to go to war, and we 150 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: have to play harder. We have to bring more intensity. 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: We have to bring the crowd with us, because when 152 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Saint's Nation is rocking with us, we are the loudest 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: stadium in this nation. And that's gonna affect the offense 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: in various ways. That's changes the snap count, changes up, 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the way they communicate that you know, can can get 156 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: office alignment offic the linemen like cattle like. It gets 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: some antsy where the crowd going crazy and the office 158 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: lineman can't see these checks and can't hear the quarterback 159 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: trying to talk to them. They could possibly jump off sides. 160 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: And if they jump off sides, it's a puzzle for us. Saintination, 161 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I need you this week. You have to be able 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: to be there. You have to be able to corral 163 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and love and be a part of this adventure that 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go on, This this battle that we're gonna 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: go on, it's gonna take all of us. I don't 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: need everybody from Saint Nation in the Dome on Sunday 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: screaming at the loudest. We need everybody. It's gonna take 168 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: not only the eleven on the field. It's gonna take 169 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: the sixty eight seventy thousand fans that are gonna be 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: in the Dome on Sunday. Let's get this win. Let's 171 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: do it together. MVP premarily a quarterback one position, like 172 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you see running back. I don't know if there's 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: ever been a defensive end edgresser. You know, it's just 174 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: it's just what is a receiver? 175 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: Maybe well, if you look at the history MVP, it 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: should just be QVP, MQVP, most mv QP. 177 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: There we go, and most valuable quarterback position because you know, 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Lamar is playing his behind off, his dairy are off, 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: probably gonna win his second MVP. But you say, who 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: else will be there? CMC And I hate to say 181 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: CMC because he's a Stanford guy. But he's a great kid, 182 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: great man, you know, great running back, he's a hell 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: of a player. Christian McCaffrey is doing his thing. But 184 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Lamar is the game changer the way he he's been 185 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: electric this year. Now unreal. He put up his years 186 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: from his year, his stats from his last MVP not 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: even the similar. They're probably better this year. Like, dude, 188 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: just is what it is. You know, he's the best 189 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: quarterback playing this year, hands down. Yeah, that's that's that 190 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: I blame. We're not gonna talk about anything anything else. 191 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: That's that's that we're in fact, we're gonna move on 192 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: and give a shout out to you know, Lamar being 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: in that uh in that AFC and that division over 194 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: there with with the Steelers. We got to give a 195 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: quick shout out to Mike Tomlin as well, just to 196 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: throw one out there, you know, for to give people 197 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: their flowers. That people need their flowers. You know, Mike 198 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: Tomlin clinched his seventeenth straight season without a losing record. 199 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: As long as he's been a head coach, he's never 200 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: had a losing record. I don't know if you know 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: what that means, but that's something to put your hat on. 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you're part of a fan 203 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: base and you want to root for your team and 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: you your team has a bad season or you know 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: your team is it's like, we need to find a 206 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: way to win. You do know one thing, if you're 207 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a Steelers fan, you don't even know what it's like 208 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: to have a losing season. You get you you have 209 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: a standard, and your standard is quite high. Win have 210 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: a winning season, be beyond five hundred. That gives you 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: a chance. So add a lot of things, playoffs, you'd 212 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: win your division. Sometimes you can win the division with 213 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: a winning season, just barely a winning season. You know, 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: the Saints have a chance to get to have a 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: winning season. Go nine and eight and go nine and eight, 216 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: have a possible chance in playoffs. That's a possible chance 217 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: to win the division. So that that just speaks for itself. 218 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I don't know if I've ever given a 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: clap on camera, but you know, a clap on the podcast. 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: But we're gonna give a clap to Mike Tomlin for 221 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: his accomplishments. And now, you know, we'll talk about uh, 222 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about MVP. Let's talk about dp 223 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: O Y and who should be a Defensive Player of 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: the Year candidate Trey Hendrickson. I'm not gonna get out 225 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: his birth name because I know his birth name, but 226 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: it's not Trey, but Trey Hendrickson, anything is possible. When 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: you guys come back, we're gonna start talking to my guy, 228 00:11:52,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson. I appreciate it. We're back on 229 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: off the edge with me, Cam Jordan, your host. I'm 230 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: just so excited I get to bring in one of 231 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: my favorite teammates of all times, a guy that then 232 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: left me and went to the Cincinnati Bengals is now 233 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: seventeen sacks and with the chance to get to twenty sacks. 234 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: I hope he goes for it. I hope he gets it. 235 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: He's it's doable. You know what three saton game, it 236 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: is all it takes. We're talking about a pro bowler. 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Should be an All first team All Pro this year. 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: There's nobody playing better than him. Should be a Defensive 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: Player of the Year selected winner. But you know what, 240 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: we'll get there. My guy Trey Henderson sitting that Bro, 241 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: I looked it up. I was like, fifty nine sacks. 242 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: I feel like in the next couple of years, can 243 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: we talk about that hunting sack talk? Bro? Seventeen sacks 244 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: this year? Nobody. I feel like nobody's talking about it enough. 245 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: And I'm always gonna give flowers to my guy, Bro, 246 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: how did you get here this fast? 247 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Like? 248 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: You know, seventeen, we talked, we talked about thresholds. You're 249 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: right there, bro. 250 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: Uh seventeen you know I'm in it's it's you know, 251 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: it's a team game more than anybody. Good coverage and 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: good rush equals sacks. If I could do it by myself, 253 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: I think I'd be in a tough spot. Uh, it 254 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: takes all eleven. So I'm blessed to be around a good, 255 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: good culture guys, Uh, guys that want to win, and 256 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: you know. 257 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: The personal success is a byproduct of that. 258 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: MM. Yeah, I see what you did there. A nice 259 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: side step there, side set, double side swipe. Some would say, 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, bro, you came into the league. When you 261 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: came into the league, road was it was me you, 262 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, alex okafor you know, and guys were like, 263 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, a couple years later, they're like, guys, where 264 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: the trade hits come from? You've always been that dude, 265 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: bro so on pass rush, you know. Any anytime we 266 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: used to practice againstach other, we used to give ourselves hell. 267 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Like we would give each other better looks than sometimes 268 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: we would see in games from offensive linemen. You know, 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: we would clean each other's clocks for like, no lie, like, 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, like we would go after it. 271 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: Evidual with Ryan was definitely a It's definitely physical, you know, 272 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: and that was something that we both kind of embraced 273 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: early on, and getting better was something that we did 274 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: every day. 275 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: So I mean, it was it's something that I look 276 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: back on. I'm blessed to have happened. You know. I 277 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: got to learn a lot of. 278 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: Things early that I think guys had to figure out 279 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: on their own. I was also healthy being in the bullpen. 280 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: You know, that's a product of you know, Sean Payton 281 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: bringing in the right guys. It was just always talented, 282 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: like you said, Alex before Marcus Davenport, you obviously, and 283 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: then even George my rookie year. 284 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: You know, there was guys that have been in that league, 285 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: in the league for. 286 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: A long time, and you know, savvy vets that knew 287 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: they were doing well. 288 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I remember when we first drafted you, Bro, I had 289 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: no idea what I was getting into with you. We 290 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: drafted you, and before I even met you, we heard 291 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: about you rookie count your rookie camp. You're going against 292 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: some vet was like eight or nine years in the league, 293 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, what do you even doing? Like you 294 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: I heard the story about you, Bro, Like got in 295 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: a fight with him and was like, what have you 296 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: been doing here? You won't even be here by time 297 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: season begins. This dude was like eighty nine years. I'm like, 298 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm hearing about this in the locker room. I'm like, oh, oh, 299 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: this kid, this kid guy, Okay, we got a fighter. 300 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: And then that that first. 301 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: I made the roster. Yeah, so I mean he proved 302 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: me wrong. I showed I didn't really know much. But yeah, 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: it was always scrappy. You know, you gotta you gotta 304 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: fund for yourself. Looking back, it was it. It's something 305 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: that you have to have that chip on your shoulder, 306 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: you know. I I embraced people that like want to 307 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: kind of get after it. I've seen it my fair share. 308 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: You know. 309 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: Year seven, I was still scrapping with Orlando and OTAs, 310 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: So it's. 311 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: That's who it was. Yeah, football, big offensive tackle. But 312 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: he's like three forty. 313 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: My great guy by the way. You know, it's like 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: you don't know that two weeks into camp. Yeah, you 315 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: say a couple of things to him. 316 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: It's like, man, you know, week seventeen, great guy, great 317 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: football player, Orlando Brown, great person. 318 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: You know like that back it's like, eh, but it happened, bro. 319 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: I to this day, I don't think i've seen anybody 320 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: getting more fights. In one training camp, it was it 321 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: was you like a top tier alone every other day 322 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: until like even the coaches were like, all right, Trey, relaxed. 323 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: The truth hurts and somebody's got to tell the truth. 324 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: No doubt. He used to say, send them people like, Bro, 325 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: send it, and I'm like, oh, he's going for today. 326 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: But I used to I used to love love it, 327 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna remember those like for the rest of 328 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: my life. There's a few fights that you always remember 329 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: them like yours, and call Mete is gonna be one 330 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: of them, you know, Siel Mete is gonna be top tier. 331 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: A guy named r Johnson. 332 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: You know that was for shadowing the. 333 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Brown Steelers situation in our. 334 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Whole Uh yeah, in the north. 335 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: But hey, you've you've grown so much from there, Bro, 336 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Now you know now you like you're you're a leader 337 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: in your own right. 338 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: Bro. 339 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: I love just watching even though you know from afar, Bro, 340 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: you hear me texting like go get the twenty, bro, 341 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Like I want you, like I went to all the 342 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: success for you. The way you're pass rushing, the way 343 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: you get after it, like I have nothing but the 344 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: highest respects for everything that you do. I love it, 345 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: like you're like you're like a real edge rusher, like 346 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: you talked it into the two existence. Bro. Yeah, I 347 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: just anyways, that's just I'd love to give you flowers 348 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: any chance I can get. But how would you describe 349 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: Let's let's get into the football so we can get 350 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: that part over so I can ask the questions I 351 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: want to ask. But how would you how would describe 352 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: this season? Like I've through through ups and downs, so 353 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: you know your years in the league. Now, how would 354 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: how would you describe this one compared to others? 355 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 4: Well, this season's special because you know, you know, when 356 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: you have a guy like Joe Burrow go down, I 357 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: think it's something that he puts a little bit more 358 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: emphasis on the players around and you know, puts emphasis 359 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: on the guys that need to step up. 360 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: You know, the DJ Reader. 361 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: Is the same and Hubbards, you know, the guys in 362 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: the back end, Logan Wilson. You know a lot of 363 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: those guys took it upon themselves to be that. You know, 364 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: you're never going to fill those shoes. It's it's Joe Burrow, 365 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: but you know it was something that was a big 366 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: emphasis on the team to come together and rally behind 367 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: Jake Browning to kind of make something out of the 368 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: season and we have a fighting chance to have a 369 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: winning season this week. So it's big, but it's full 370 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: of adversity. You know, football is. If everybody was healthy 371 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: and everybody was you know, if it wouldn't be the 372 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: game it is. It's a game of adversity and how 373 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: you overcome it. So I think it's just one of 374 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 4: those years. It's tough. You know, six years I've been 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: playing before this, six years, six years I won the division, 376 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: So this is unfamiliar territory for me. But I'm blessed 377 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: to experience it. You know, it's a it's a humbling thing. Uh, 378 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: you know, not only making. 379 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: The playoffs, but I've hosted the first game every year. 380 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: So yeah, it definitely it's definitely gonna drive that hunger 381 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 4: and fire inside me for next year, for sure, no doubt. 382 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm right there with you. Like in 383 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: terms of just as a personal success, you know, like 384 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: used to a standard like never have I ever not 385 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: had seven sacks you know in the season since like 386 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: my rookie year, sitting at two. I'm like I'm a 387 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: run stopper, this last six weeks. Like I've never been 388 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: injured to the point where it had affected play, and 389 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: so it's yeah, it's humbling for sure. Well like everybody, 390 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: whether you like to or not football and can be 391 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: very humbling, you know. 392 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: But I remember you talking when I first came in 393 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: the league. 394 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: You know, you were you probably hit the quarterback one 395 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: hundred times and you're at seven sacks. It's like people 396 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: look at it seven, but I mean there was you know, 397 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: you're so many times twenty five. 398 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's a different season. If he holds the 399 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: ball for half a second longer. 400 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, bro, Like what I tell you, like, this all 401 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: comes full circle. The ones you miss, they come back, 402 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: you know. The ones you get close to you'll finish, 403 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: like you know, just come full circle. Like take it easy. 404 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Like this year, I've had two taken away from penalties. 405 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: I've had you know, one they gave to Carl Grandison 406 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's not mine. I was like okay, 407 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, it's like the other 408 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: four that I've fallen off off. I'm like, and that's 409 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: a ten sax season, or that's on a good year, 410 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: that's a ten sax season. And on a bad year 411 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: apparently two Okay. 412 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: You know, injuries are a huge part of it, battling 413 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: through that. I broke my wrist. Last year, I had 414 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: eight sacks. You know, it's one of those things that 415 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: not everybody reads into the seasons. They just see the 416 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 4: statistics at the end. But you know, it's half a 417 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: second longer. That's an eternity in football. 418 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: So absolutely, you know that you got to make it count. 419 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: That's the final bind and reach that could make it happen. 420 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's why ed rushers are are 421 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: a premium. You know, that's why you're one of the 422 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: best there is. You know, you're sitting at seventeen. Who 423 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: just think about if you'd be like, oh, those ones 424 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: that I was close on, if I would have finished, 425 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: I'd be sitting at twenty three the one I fell 426 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: off of that, you know, like you always think about 427 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: the ones you miss. But you you gotta, you gotta, 428 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be accepting towards how to get better. 429 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: What what can I do to improve the game? And 430 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: speaking of that, what what can you do to improve 431 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: your game? Because this point, bro, you're you're I'm gonna 432 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: say the best edge rusher in the game right now. 433 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's very that's kind, you know, that's very kind. 434 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: But I mean there's a lot of guys that you know, 435 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: you watch tape on other players, you pick up things 436 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. 437 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: But uh, for me personally, you know, I think there's 438 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: room for improvement. 439 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: Every year there's plays that I left out there, there's 440 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: close ones that I had. That's the that's the thrill 441 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 4: of the hunt for the next one. Always kind of 442 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: motivated for the next one. And uh, it's kind of 443 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: one of those crazy things. Sacks are the greatest stat 444 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: in football, and I'm chasing them. 445 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Facts, So you so you're you're not really chasing this 446 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: sack title. 447 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 4: This is I've never been one to really, like I've 448 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: said it for three years, I don't look at stats 449 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: where I'm at because you know, if if you know 450 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: Robert Quinn was rushing the way he was a couple 451 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: of years ago, he'd be at twenty. You know, there's 452 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: there's guys that have been in that I'm personally having 453 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: a race with myself. You know, I have I leave 454 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: it all out on the field and then I can 455 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: say last year eight sacks was the best I had 456 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: in me, And after this Browns game, I'll look in 457 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 4: the mirror and say, that was the most I had 458 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: in me. And if if it's the league lead, if 459 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 4: it's third, if it's fifth, if it's thirty second, it 460 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 4: really doesn't. It's the best I did. And I can 461 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 4: hang my hand on that season in and out. So 462 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 4: it's always nice to be, you know, considered in the 463 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: best or first place. All those things are nice, but 464 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: those are a by product of wanting to win and 465 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: the intensity that I've had. 466 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: You know, I've played with for a long time. 467 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: It won't it won't affect your process. That's a part 468 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: of a hunt. He's like, just I don't want more. 469 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: I said, you boy, you talked about Jake Browning, and 470 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I clearly don't know much about Jake Browning, But what 471 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: is it like, you know, him keeping the season alive 472 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: and sort of step into that role because you know, 473 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: I took for I didn't take for granted, but having 474 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Drew brees my entire career. Until you didn't, you didn't realize, 475 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: like when you're playing with the great, you don't know 476 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: what it's like. And then the next you know, one 477 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: of those years we had like three quarterbacks. You're like day, 478 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: consistency is key and greatness is greatness, and consistency equals elite. 479 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: So Jake Browning steps to that roll with guys. So 480 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: having to get to custom to a new quarterback not 481 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: named Joe Borrow after having so much success, I haveter 482 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: been to a super Bowl. After winning ac you know, 483 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: titles year after year after year, and now you got 484 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: Jake Browning? How do rally? How how is it possible 485 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to rally? And now that you've got you know, kept 486 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: the season alive, how does that happen? 487 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: Well? 488 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: I think what's special about Jake that not a lot 489 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 4: of people know is he had highs and votes you 490 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: know back in college. You know, he led Washington's has 491 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 4: some pretty special seasons, you know, and that being your 492 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: conference in college, you know, it's a isn't that right? 493 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: Is that yours? And yeah? 494 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Well good the good old yeah, the good old pack, 495 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: which will be no more after Yeah. 496 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was always you know, I mean I had 497 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: competend this. 498 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: I didn't really I didn't dabble in the power of 499 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: five schools, but uh but yeah, no, he was. 500 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: He's led an impressive charge. 501 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: You know those statistics spoke for himself, and I got 502 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: to see a different side of Jake than not a 503 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: lot of people saw. He was my scout team quarterback 504 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: for three years or two and a half, and you know, 505 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: seeing his process, the way he talked to our defensive coordinator, 506 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: going through what this quarterback looks like and being able 507 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: to emulate them at a high level, giving us the 508 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: best look possible. And you know there was sometimes he 509 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 4: dice us up and you'd kind of look at it. 510 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: It's like this is our one defense, you know, and it's, uh, 511 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: it's one of those things that we. 512 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: Knew he could play. We knew he could play at 513 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: a high level. 514 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: We were happy for him when he made the fifty 515 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 4: three this year and no way were we thinking we 516 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: were losing Joe. 517 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: But you know, it's football. 518 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: But you know, when we got we could rally behind 519 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: him because we knew, we knew his process, we knew 520 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: how hard he wanted, he wanted it, how hard he works, 521 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: you know, and him going in there into Jacksonville winning 522 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: that game, Uh, you know, beating the Vikings and overtime 523 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: coming back, those are special things, special things that I 524 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: think he'll remember forever. We have a chance for a 525 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: winning season, which is something I don't take for granted either. 526 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: So you know, there's a lot to play for this week. 527 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: But good dude, he's definitely a leader of men. 528 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 4: Uh He's somebody that not a lot of people knew about. 529 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: But a couple of years people be talking about him. 530 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean probably not a couple of years because these 531 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrows coming back and then you know. 532 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: No, I know that's a couple of years. Yeah, he's 533 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: gonna even be back like he's our guy. Like, but 534 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: you know he's gonna get a chance. 535 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: He's you know, I see a lot of guys that 536 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: have similar walks as he did. 537 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Garner Minshew. You know, he's made made a name for himself. 538 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 4: You know, I can see that being a very similar 539 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: road as he kind of has to earn it. We 540 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: played another guy, uh case Keenum, you know, very similar, 541 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: gets an opportunity, makes the most of it. Uh So 542 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: they'll be once he becomes a free agent, they'll be 543 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: people calling his name. 544 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, that bro. Okay, So just look at 545 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: your career, bro. The way the way you took off, Bro, 546 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: there was there was you know when you started off, 547 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: you you came in like Bro, if he just lets 548 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: me get on the edge, I'm gonna win. And then 549 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, you had your your your year of I'm 550 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: just gonna get on this treadmill, run my ass off 551 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: and got skinny on us, and then you came back 552 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: and put yourself on the map your third year and 553 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: took off your fourth year for the tune of what 554 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: what was it? Thirteen sacks? Thirteen and half sacks? Your 555 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: fourth year? Bro, how did you like, how did you 556 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: know or when did you know that you were going 557 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: to be a force to be reckoned with in the NFL, Because, 558 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: I mean we had those talks youngers. You're like, bro, 559 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I could just do this if they just let me, 560 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: and then you get your opportunity and shine. But when 561 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: did you really know that? You're like, I'm yeah, I'm 562 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: CON's work. 563 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm uh possible. 564 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: I've been blessed. I've been blessed to the whole situation. 565 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: You know, I've had good people in my corner. But 566 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: I always looked in the mirror and knew I could 567 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: do it. You know, there were things I think Ryan 568 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 4: made us write it down. I wanted to be a 569 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: multi ten sack, you know, guy, I wanted to be 570 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: a pro bowler. 571 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to do great things. I wanted to play 572 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. 573 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 4: You know, there's things that you know you have to 574 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: you have to believe it to achieve it. I'm a 575 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: firm believer in that, and even when I was drafted, 576 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 4: I knew I'd be a starter in this league. It 577 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 4: was just a little bleak playing behind great defensive ends 578 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: like you Alex starting and then next year drafting Marcus 579 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: in the first. 580 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: Round, first round. 581 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: I don't know why. Yeah, and were my best friends, 582 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: so I love him. But it was one of those 583 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: things you kind of have to look in the mirror 584 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: and you don't know how, you don't know when, you 585 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: don't know why, but you just believe it. 586 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: And I would write it down. 587 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: I have notes on my phone in twenty eighteen that 588 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 4: was going to be a pro bowler when I was 589 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: wearing a hat and on the treadmill. 590 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer. If you don't have faith in it, 591 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, And. 592 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 4: I put my faith in the Lord and Savior Jesus 593 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: Christviously you know that, but you know it's something special, 594 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: that belief. 595 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: No matter what, it's just something good to have. 596 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 4: And I think every player should believe in themselves to 597 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: the max and uh go get it. 598 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: No doubt. Well, I just love to see that transformation 599 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: because I remember you having like like bro, you and 600 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: Manti tal was out there having those those like deep talks. 601 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, don't lose this weight, tray 602 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: this defense movie, in our defense, in our sans defense 603 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: back in what was that twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, It's 604 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: like you got to stop the run first. You got 605 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to stop the like the Moniker, the Moniker of our 606 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: team was like, stop to run and have some fun. 607 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: So if like if you didn't play off for a second, 608 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: like you had to earn third, like third was never given. 609 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,239 Speaker 1: It was like the earned privilege, which was now. 610 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: And that was one of those things. 611 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: You know, went from two hundred and eighty pounds drinking 612 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: milk at night because Ryan said mask kicks, but you know, 613 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: and UH bought that looked in the mirror at two eighty, 614 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: I was like, man, I'll be playing three technique here 615 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: pretty soon if I don't so then I just started running. 616 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: So that whole off season I was running. 617 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen came around, I weighed two fifty five So 618 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: I lost thirty thirty pounds, thirty five pounds, and I 619 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: remember going into Sean Payton's office and he's like, you 620 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: know he played defensive end in this league, right, I was, 621 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: I guess, sir, He's like, our defensive ends weighed two 622 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: seventy and yes, sir. He's like, I don't know how 623 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: you're gonna put fifteen pounds on. But he's like, good 624 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: luck and walked out of the room. 625 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it wasn't my smartest idea. I 626 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: looked great, I felt great. 627 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: So it was one of those things where I was like, 628 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: these things are trending nicely. But got to meet my 629 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: wife that off season, so at least something worked. So 630 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: Alisa was a huge help, and you know, getting the 631 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: weight back on, she cooked for me, and you know, inevitably, 632 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, I got to get back in the rotation. 633 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: And uh, you know restless history. 634 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: You know, look in New Orleans defense would go to 635 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: dinner every Thursday. Do you guys have that over there 636 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: in Sincy? 637 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 4: So I brought that kind of over here in some ways, 638 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: you know, it was more like the defensive line. We 639 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: couldn't get everybody on board, you know, Vaughn had his dinner. 640 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: That he brought over with the DVS. 641 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: So it was more a position specific thing, but uh, 642 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: you know it's we wanted to make it our own things. 643 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: So starters absolutely started starters and it's trinkled down so 644 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: it's been I've adapted some things. 645 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, get the group together, bro. I feel like 646 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: even even like now we've we've as a Saints team, 647 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: we've transformed from like defensive dinner every week to now 648 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: defense dinner every other week. Defensive line position whatever hangs 649 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: out in between those weeks on Thursdays. But like the 650 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: defensive line is, it's sort of fun now, Like you know, 651 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you play credit card roulette to finish these dinners off, 652 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: and that's always intriguing. You know, brings a little bit 653 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: more fun to the game when you don't have to pay, 654 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: Like a steak steak dinner hits better when it's not 655 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: your money. 656 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: You know, it hurt when you get caught though, Hey. 657 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I got lucky, I got I got cut on on 658 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: a text Mex night. I got caught with like you know, 659 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: like you know, you gotta steak dinners. Absolutely, you gotta 660 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you go to sushi. You know, sushi nights, Sushi Knight's 661 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: gett expensive and like I got caught on a text Mexic. 662 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: I was like, this is it? No, no, no, I take that, 663 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: thank you, like hopefully this is the only one for 664 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: your things. 665 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: And then that's. 666 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Such. 667 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: It's different. 668 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: You're upset, but you're like you weighing it against each other. 669 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I did, Okay, do you guys do rookie dinners because 670 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, we got our rookie dinner coming up, and 671 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 672 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't we do rookie dinners. 673 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: Uh, Miles has been great, so it's gonna be pretty 674 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: easy for him. It's gonna just have the guys together. Yeah, 675 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: it's a camaraderie thing. It's not gonna be more of 676 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: the you know. So it's something that he's done great. 677 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: He's been on everything. You get snacks for everybody, bringing 678 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: waters for everybody. You know, he's a good dude, bought in, 679 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: you know, he's a team guy. 680 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: You know, he came from a great program. 681 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: Clemson has been at the top of the food chain 682 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: his whole life, top recruit So yeah, he knows. 683 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Bro I try and tell people like locker rooms run 684 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: on like camaraderie on being built in, Like they're like, oh, 685 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: what do you guys do to your rookies. We don't 686 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: do anything to rookies. We passed. We pass on tradition, 687 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and a good rookie enhances the room. Like you like, hey, 688 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: oh you make the you make rookies pick up pads. 689 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't make him do anything, you know, 690 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 1: but like did I pick up pads when I was 691 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: when I was a rookie? Absolutely? You know, does does 692 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: it help? I think in the long run when you 693 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: have a guy who wants to buy into tradition, wants 694 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to buy into the program, Yeah, it's like it's like 695 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: on our defense and when we do forty updowns before 696 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: before the season, you buy in. There's a buy it 697 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't really know you, so you're sort of 698 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: building trust as we go, you know. So our rookie 699 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: dinner is gonna happen and it's gonna be great. We're 700 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna have a good time and nobody's gonna be overly excessive. 701 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: You're not gonna see one of those like you know, 702 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: what is it on on on Twitter or whatever? I 703 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: saw like the Niners where they like fake the kid 704 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: out with a fifty thousand dollars bill and like, yeah, 705 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: like come on, like even if the bill, if the 706 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: bill is fifty, I would probably eat that. I'm like, nah, bro, Like, 707 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: you're not doing that to my guy. We've had, you know, 708 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Brian Raze from Clemson as well as another Clemson guy. 709 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: He's been great this year. So we're gonna have a 710 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: df beef his dinner and like you know, we're gonna 711 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: order a bottle and he's gonna sign it, just like 712 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: all my rookies have in the past. 713 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: It's just a tradition, bro. 714 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 4: You know, no, and it's you know, it's good to 715 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: trust those guys, you know, to build that trust, and 716 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 4: you know, if you're taking care of us and like 717 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: with snacks and stuff, it's not the end of the world. 718 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: It's something that just goes to show that you're on it. 719 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: You know, you want your guys to be taken care of. 720 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: And then when we run a text and he comes 721 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: free and he gets a sack, you know, it's earned. 722 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's like something I'm happy for him. It's 723 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: not like he's out there doing it selfishly. So he's 724 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: been amazing. I think most rookies are great. You very 725 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 4: rarely get somebody who's super entitled. So if there's a 726 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: process to everything, it's not something where it's like, you know, 727 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: you have to like you're saying, it's something that they 728 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: should want to to take care of the guys that 729 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 4: have been here, and we've all been rookies. I mean 730 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: I probably tried to fight it as hard as I could, 731 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: but it didn't work out for me. 732 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: So no, no, if Peyton Turner was the worst rookie 733 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life, no, you you were, 734 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: You were fine. Al Kadeem was al Kadeem probably no doubt. 735 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: Al KaDee Mohammed gave gave me and you some some 736 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: some some times sometimes. And I love Al I saw 737 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: how this off season love al h. But I was 738 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: like as a rookie, like he came in like knowing 739 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: he was a bet or something. But I think that's 740 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: just you know, you just deal with those personalities, but 741 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: that's just it, like the person. So now these makes 742 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: it sort of fun, you know, like when you when 743 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: you have guys come together and building that camaraderie, nobody's 744 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: going to just be mess Like you know, you were 745 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: my first you were my first defensive end that like 746 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: put me in a position of like made me think 747 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: about things like, hey, bro, nah me or him? No, 748 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: not as all as you try. Just hey, hands up here, 749 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: you're my guy, bro. But hey, life, there's decisions to 750 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: be made, and every decision has waked on them. But 751 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean from from from the beginning of your career 752 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: till till now and the next seven years that you're 753 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: in continue playing eight years you can continue playing. You know, 754 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I just got the highest highest respect for you, and 755 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: I just love the way that you're like you're flying now. Bro. 756 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I look, I look on TV, like we 757 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: watch the Sack reels whatever every week, and you're on there. 758 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm like like, look at him, like he like he 759 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: told me, he told me year three, Like he's like, Bro, 760 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to go get it, Like I'm 761 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: going to be a ten sack guy. Like it's going 762 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: to happen. And you've proved everybody wrong or right who's 763 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: ever had anything, you know, negative to say about you. 764 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: You'd be like, hey, if there's anything negative, you've proved 765 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: them wrong. And everybody who was like hey, he's got 766 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: tremendous upside, You've proved them exactly what you what you 767 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: knew about yourself. So again, appreciate you tapping in on 768 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. I appreciate you for being my guy. You 769 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I owe you a fishing trip 770 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: because we didn't get one in last last all season. 771 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: It's happening now. Does it have to happen immediately after season? Yes, yes, 772 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: I'll be in a boot suit. But you know, it 773 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: just is what it is. So appreciate you tapping in 774 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: on off the edge with me, my guy Trey Henderson. 775 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: One game left. Hopefully it ends up in it at 776 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: least a three piece. I'ma I'm gonna call four out there. 777 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: He's gonna finish with like twenty one and maybe even 778 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: go stupid and get like a six SAT game and 779 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: break a record. You know, like I'm just gonna I'm 780 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: just gonna throw things out there. But love you, Bro, 781 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you for for everything you do for the game, 782 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: for the intensity that you bring, uh, the energy that 783 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: you've always had. A big salute to you, bro. 784 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you. To you, brother, and thank you 785 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: God bless you and the family. 786 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: And yes, sir, I now would talk about our New 787 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Year's resolutions. Man New Year's resolutions are never lose again 788 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: and never get injured again. I don't know if it's feasible, 789 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: So let's give you a feasible, you know, unattainable new 790 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: Year's resolution for me this year. This year, I would 791 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: like to take swearing off the table, not all of swearing, 792 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: but the hard ones, you know, like that the mforts, 793 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the F bomb, the maybe even the B word. You know, 794 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: so you know that I'm gonna start off with new 795 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: year's New Year's resolutions, but just hinting at it, you know, 796 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: because if I say it, then the year's resolution is 797 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: is over. Then, you know, wife, you will probably be 798 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: super excited that I'm gonna stop swearing, because like in 799 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: the locker room, sometimes you bring the locker room home 800 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: and then you get you get chewed out, and then 801 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: you just be like that S word, you know, I 802 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: feel like it's like it is not really a curse word, 803 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: like it's a swear word, but like it's just the heart. 804 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna start off with the hard curse words 805 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: and then move on from there. You know, maybe maybe 806 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: it's a bastard, might be a harshurst curse word. You know, 807 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: if you look up dictionary. That might be I'm on 808 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: offense about that one, but it's just another word for 809 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, when somebody defecates. You know, it just is 810 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: what it is. I'm yeah, I'm gonna say I'm say 811 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: the hard, the hard, curse words gone this year. I'm 812 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a better man. I got kids. Oh oh 813 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: in fact, no, no, I can't do it. I was 814 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: gonna say give up red meat, but that's just a lie. 815 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't turn down lamb chops. It will never happen. 816 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: I am who I am. I could almost get rid 817 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: of steak, Like I'm at this point like steak is 818 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: not appeasing to me, but I don't turn down like 819 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: wag you and like you know when somebody hits me 820 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: like an elite. Oh, this is the you gotta try it, 821 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, a beautiful burger. You have to try it, 822 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: like it's just what it is. I could almost give 823 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: up red meat. I might. I'm gonna take a sabbatical 824 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: from red meat this year. Won't be won't be eradicated 825 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: with a sabbatical. Let's go for that one, hopefully, you know. 826 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: So this year, this year's resolution, give up, the give up, 827 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: the rough, hard, curse words, and test out giving up 828 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: beef red meat. Yeah. So anyways, that's that's my newest resolutions. 829 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: What's yours, guys. I appreciate you for tuning in to 830 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: Off the Edge with me on my podcast. I appreciate 831 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: you guys allowing me to be the host spinning with 832 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: my guy Trey Hendrickson. I appreciate my dog, Trey Henderson 833 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: for the edge rusher that he has become an edgerencher 834 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: he is and in the way he's going hopefully a 835 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: dp O Y this year. In fact, I'm gonna put 836 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: out there I want to give him an award. M all right, 837 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: So thank you Trey for for for hopping on the show, because, 838 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys know my guy, Trey is 839 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: a private guy. You know, he loves he loves his wife, 840 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: he loves God, and he loves football and you know 841 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: the rest of his family and he sticks to that 842 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: phenomenal dude through and through. Appreciate you guys for listening. 843 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: Thank you tune in, Tell your friends about it, tell 844 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: your cousins about twenty twenty four. It's gonna be a 845 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: year Off the Edge of the podcast with Cam Jordan. 846 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: Give us a five star rating, leave a review, tell 847 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: all your friends about his follow us on the Apple Podcast, 848 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just know 849 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Off the Edge is here to stay. Twenty twenty four. 850 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: We don't play, We're gonna participate. Thank you for being here.