1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Redly look at us now, timp. 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Jesus. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh do you want about using? Will be up to? 4 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: It's time to bed? 5 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, get fired up, get happy. It's Monday, 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: October seventh, two thousand and twenty four, and you've stumbled 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: in to hear these Manhattan studios metal Lark and how 8 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: about us Morning Combat, Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell. Your co 9 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: hostess is with the most, is with body for days 10 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: on that. But byes, she calls me on the phone. 11 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: That's such a great job. We were just saying in 12 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: that pocket of nineties alternative rock Shimmer by Fuel. 13 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: Consent Belave, it's a two thousand song. 14 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: If no, no, that's right. I remember that song being 15 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: and when I was pretty sure. I remember that song 16 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: being on when I was in high school and I 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: graduated in ninety eight. 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: You think it's more Nickelback era, Yeah, I think it's 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: that like for like two thousand. 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: Well, bet you a dollar. I'll bet you a single 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: solitary dollar. It's pre two thousand. 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: He won't pay up in my pocket. 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: All right, all righty, it's nineteen ninety six. 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Hey, suck on. 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: My balls, Suck on my big fat balls. 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Admitted every Saturday gets your bong hits in. All right, Hey, 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: we got a great show for you today UFC three 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: oh seven from Salt Lake City, full recap, coming in 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: your face, and then we will set the stage for 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: all things rices and on Saturday, Archer better Beef. 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: I am Dimitri Beef so excited for that light. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Have you wait? Four Belt Summit, undisputed Sisson two top 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: five pound for pounders, unbeaten champions. This is as Jack 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: Nicholson once starred in Luke, as good as it gets. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 4: Right, our friends at DraftKings have that fight. How often 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: do you hear this about a title fight main event 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: in boxing? Yeah, Arthur better be Butter Beev plus one 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 4: oh four Bivil minus one twenty. 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Damn imagine getting plus money on twenty and oh with 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty kost. 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: Three world titles, three of the world. 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Time I interviewed him, it'll be on my The Brian 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Campbell Experience this week. But Artur and I did ask 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: him because I'm like, I've been butchering your name definitely, 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: because I've been using three versions. 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 4: So how do you pronounce it? 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: He said? Because I was like, is it better Beev Butterbev? 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: What do we got here. He says, better beev, better beev. 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Better beev. 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: Okay, better beef Okay. 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Not not better beev. Now you better believe it. Better beev. 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: That's what he says. Okay, all right, Now do you 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: care because he's not letting you know. 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: I do care. I do want to do. I do 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: like him. 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I want to get that one right. It is. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: It is tricky, though, it's tricky. 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Yes, in Dmitri, I always say bevol. But that's probably 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: not right. People say Turkey says bivol. Does he Yeah, 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Turkey pronounces things just a little bit off, but it's 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a language. 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: You know, he's got an accent to give you. You 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: have a great want to curve. Sure, I've been saying bivol, 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: but then I hear a bunch of other people call 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: him Bevoll. 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you should just be able to 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: say it. 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: However, you know what Sanchez, how about that? He's Dmitri Sanchez. 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't going to go there. I 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: was just gonna instill the Cassraus rule. Just say it. However, 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: you want to be happy, and there is that that way. 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: There is that, there is that Hey, speaking of the 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: Brian Campbell Experience a little berdie and I actually don't 74 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: know if this is true. Actually don't know if this 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: is true because I asked him to like, I was like, 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: is this true? And he didn't. He didn't respond to 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: him with the email he sent me an email. Is 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: it true you have activated super chats on the Brian 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: Campbell Experience? 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: You know I have? And I and I was talking 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: along is Luke about this. I don't know if I 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: feel good about it, because it feels very grifter. 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: It feels very certainly hypocritical. 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Here by these candy bars from my son for a 85 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Little League teap It feels a lot like that. But 86 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the people are so nice and so genuine, and I 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: enjoy it. 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: Now, how do you reconcile that with five years of 89 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: mockery for me doing that and then you just doing 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: it later? 91 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't know if I'm ready to 92 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: call it hypocrisy. 93 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm still ready to many things. It is many things. 94 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: Hypocrisy is one of them. 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Well, I looked at it more as why I'm doing 96 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: this as an alternative to Uber It's apparently or I'm sorry, DoorDash, 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm door Dash loyal I'm doing it, I guess as 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: an alternative to there. 99 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: You gotta make it worth your while. 100 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: And I guess it's just I guess it justifies the 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: time in some ways. 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm not mad about it. I think it so you're. 103 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Just like, if you're gonna wore out announce to the 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: world who you are. 105 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: I just think it's worth reflecting that I got mocked 106 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: for something that you now participate in as I don't 107 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: know as actively, but you certainly aren't active participant in it. 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: And I think a passive participant, well, you turn them 109 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: all and that's pretty active. 110 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Hit a button, you know, or somebody else. 111 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's worth all this I got. 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if this is you just went 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: it anyway, or if this is a low moment. Luke, 114 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: will I you know, will I come back from this? Listen, 115 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: it's not stealing. 116 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: If you're you're you're giving people the option, tell them 117 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: what the value proposition is, be clear about it, and 118 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: then if people want to support you, which I'm sure 119 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: that they do, do it. Hey, you know your kids 120 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: got to go to college somehow, right. 121 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: To I always say, too, can need shoes somebody's got 122 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: to put these kids through college. We're all in it 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: for that for sure, But I wonder, Luke, will I 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: have the guts eventually to go full on only pipes 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: memberships on the YouTube, where like we're like, okay, come 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: on in. For all the bullshit in the storefront, the 127 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: real ship is what happens you know, offline there when 128 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: you get when you know. 129 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: We have to save that for the MK membership. Yes, yes, 130 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: which is hardcore right. 131 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: There you go. Hey, Speaking of MK, I believe there's 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: an announcement to be made today. There certainly is that, 133 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: after all these years, we hate each other enough that 134 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: this will be our final episode finally freedom. 135 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah that's good. 136 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Luke. We've teased or even threatened 137 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the idea of twice a week of doing Friday for pay. Babe. 138 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: I believe it's this week. We're gonna We're gonna kick 139 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: this off this Friday. Can you confirm that or deny it? 140 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: It is true. 141 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 4: It is true. In fact, this Friday, which will be 142 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: the eleventh of October, I believe that's right. The eleventh 143 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: of October, MK returns to its normal schedule of now 144 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: normal ish normal ish we to have Mondays and Fridays. 145 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: So Friday is an MK show live eleven am in 146 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 4: the East right here at YouTube dot com slash Morning 147 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: Combat of course wherever you get your podcasts. We'll have 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: it live, will preview of course this fight in more detail. 149 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna kind of set you up for the week 150 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: here today, but we'll do some other stuff. 151 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: They're a thrilling fight Night card with Roy Vall and 152 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Tatsuya Tira a main event. Yes, the rest of that 153 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: card is bala. 154 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: It's bollocks. However, it's also the day after the Fight 155 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: Pass Invitational. Kind of interesting. Nikki rod is back in 156 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: champion Gi Champ. So yes, we're back. We're back on Fridays, 157 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: and we're going to stick it out on Fridays from 158 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: here on out. 159 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: So the two dayful, what you're offering, I'm sticking that 160 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: thing out on the camera. 161 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the the goalposts, the Monday Friday show. We are 162 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: back this this Friday. This will be a full MK week. 163 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Things being you know, if I was CJI and I 164 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: wanted to take it to the next level, I'd hire 165 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: Luke Thomas to be an analyst. 166 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: That's just my listen. I'm not going to turn down 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: that check. I will take that check. I will take 168 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: that check. I will say I never I don't know 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: I've ever told this story on the air before. I 170 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: did have a promoter. One time I spoke nicely of. 171 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Them, the UWF and Washington No. 172 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: No, no, no. This was a relatively recent This was in 173 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: the last I want to say, two to three years. 174 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: I spoke nicely about them, and then all of a sudden, 175 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: I wake up the next day and there's a bunch 176 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: of money in my Venmo account. I was like, what 177 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: is this from? And then I was able to trace 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: it back. I gave the money back. I gave them. 179 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I kept that ch It's like a super chat. I 180 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: earned it, I grifted. That's my grift. 181 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: Hey, don't get in the way of my scam. Yes, no, 182 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: but no, I returned it. But I'll just say, there's 183 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: some thirsty people out there in the jiu jitsu world 184 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: who really wants some nice coverage. Apparently. All right, there 185 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: you go, and I'll give it to him. For a check, 186 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: a proper check. 187 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: For a price. For a price, go to Luke Thomas 188 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Solo channel dot com. There you go. Great to have 189 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: you folks here there we go, Please like and subscribe 190 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: everything we're doing. 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So one day, 200 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: one day indeed, So I think the table is set here, Luke, 201 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: it's read. You're ready to eat. 202 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: I just want to say one thing. Have you paid 203 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: attention to what's happening in the Gulf of Mexico with 204 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: this new hurricane that's coming. Yes, buddy of mine is 205 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: from Tampa. He was able to ride out Helene without 206 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: too much damage. And I texted him today and I 207 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: was like, are you gonna stick around for this one? No, 208 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: he's not. He's getting hell out of there. So all 209 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: the folks, I mean, there's a lot of terrible things 210 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: going on in the world. But for all the folks 211 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: in western North Carolina, I'll see parts of it Georgia 212 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: and South Carolina as well. But now Florida they have 213 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: to like bear down and take another back to back hurricane. 214 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Certainly my wife about that, I don't I couldn't live 215 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: in that stress. That's too much. 216 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: Half those homes, like on a half, I'm exaggerating, but 217 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: a lot of those homes don't have flood insurance or 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: hurricane you know, protections. 219 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Shout out to all UMK listeners if you. 220 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: If you're in Florida, help you helpe you guys, get out. 221 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Of there, bite down, get let's get through this, Okay, 222 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: then we'll figure out where we're going to move after that. 223 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: All Right, We got to go to our topics to 224 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: lead off here, and it was a big mm A 225 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: weekend UFC three oh seven in Salt Lake. Citey and 226 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: say what you will about the card coming in, and 227 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: say what you will about the card coming out. We 228 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: knew we were going to get something special in the 229 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: main event because the busiest champion and one of the 230 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: biggest stars in this entire sport, x Pereira, was back 231 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: to defend his light heavyweight title, and he outslugged Khalil 232 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Rountree Junior in a fight that I think ultimately was 233 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot closer than most people expected to defend the 234 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: title at three oh seven. So Luke Thomas Poeton breaks 235 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: Ronda Rousi's promotional record by defending a title three times 236 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: in one hundred and seventy six days. Wow. Does this 237 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: prove once and for all after hearing that stat that 238 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Pereira truly is the most valuable player right now on 239 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: the UFC. 240 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: Roster, Yes he is. Now. There are different roles that 241 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 4: different figures in the sport, and in particular different champions 242 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: can fill. Consider Max Holloway fought at UFC three hundred 243 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: and had the most exciting fight by the way. Polton 244 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: was on that card had a great result himself. But 245 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: what you take from that is Max Holloway at fifty 246 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: five betting justin gage you for the BMF title. He 247 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: now fights Ilo Taporia at the end of this month, 248 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: so he'll have been in two bouts of consequence. Also, 249 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: you can think about Ilia Taporia. He has the fight 250 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: against Volkanowsky, a super important fight for the Featherway division, 251 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: and now back to back he's going to be fighting 252 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: Max Holloway again about of extraordinary importance for that division, 253 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: but also for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, especially if Taporia wins, 254 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: for future star power. So different champions can do different things. 255 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: And because Poeton has been filling in on short notice, 256 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 4: it has impacted his ability to get a proper opponent 257 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: and a proper setup not so much. For all the 258 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: cards are not big because he was on three hundred. 259 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: But he was on MSG three hundred and International Fight 260 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Week all last minute, bang bang bang. 261 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: So he's on these relatively important places, but the opponents 262 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: or the fights themselves, there's something a little bit missing 263 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: with it, and this fight was really no different. Obviously, 264 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: we'll talk about how Roundtree rose to the occasion, but 265 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: I just want to point out guys like Taporia or 266 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 4: Holloway will have fought less this year, but I think 267 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: they're going to have been in bigger bouts ultimately by 268 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 4: the way their calendars worked and by the way these 269 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: particular matchups fell at this moment in time. But the 270 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: reason why to pour you excuse me, the reason why 271 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: Poeton is the most valuable fighter that they have is 272 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:17,119 Speaker 4: are his fights clearly the biggest, No, they are important. 273 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: They are amazing. He is must watch in every way, 274 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: but because of the late notice and because of how 275 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: rapidly he's turning around, they're not giving him. And he 276 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 4: also doesn't seem to have a clear two zero five 277 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: rival other than on Calive. But he's got to get 278 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: past rackets first, which is no easy task. But what 279 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: the UFC truly values the most is yes, star power, 280 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 4: Yes ability. Of course those are hugely important balls, all 281 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: that stuff, but the ability to say yes when the 282 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: call comes, when they throw the bat signal in the air, 283 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: they want to see Batman and he might be fighting 284 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: crime in this neighborhood, he might be fighting crime in 285 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: that neighborhood. But he answers the call, he gets the 286 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 4: job couch. He might be on Danny gaysk, but he delivers. 287 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: He wins, he wins spectacularly, he wins in memorable ways, 288 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: and he wins under and we'll talk more about this 289 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: typically not very advantageous conditions, even if the fan base 290 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: is on his side. That is so critical in this 291 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: year where remember BC twenty twenty four started out great 292 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: nine three hundred. This was like back to back to 293 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 4: back banger after banger. But it's been a bit of 294 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: a drop off since then. The guy who has kind 295 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: of kept consistency to the calendar is none other than Pooton. 296 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: His consistency you mentioned one hundred and seventy five days, 297 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: But for what he did in that one hundred and 298 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: seventy five days, what would you remember about it? Not 299 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: as much, not much at all. Pooton has saved a 300 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: gigantic chunk of this calendar in ways that no one 301 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: else has, even without necessarily a premium opponent. 302 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, that is what 303 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: the UFC would value most. Your ability to be the 304 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: strongest business brand for them possible and fight as quickly 305 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: a turnaround in as tough of a challenge, no questions asked. 306 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: But then when you deliver as emphatically, violently entertainingly as 307 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: Poton does, then it doesn't even matter the language gap 308 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: that he still, you know, fights a battle with to 309 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: some degree, He's going to become a star. Now, look, Luke, 310 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: he's not Connor level John Jones level even, but he's 311 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: when you look at that value, he's one of their 312 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: biggest brands. There's a price that comes with that, though, 313 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: with the wear and tear that you're willing to put 314 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: on yourself. But I think this almost makes this victory 315 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: even more impressive when you find out what Poton actually 316 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: went through physically because of these short turnarounds and seemingly 317 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: always being in Camp Long Island. Look can you throw 318 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: to the sound of his coach explaining this. 319 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: And looking back right now through everything that he did say, 320 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: he's very proud because I don't think somebody else will 321 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: have file on those conditions you have, Oh cam Bro. 322 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: He came here to adapt to the altitude and at 323 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: the same time have his camps was basically three week camp, 324 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: very sick, ribs are bad. He you don't want it 325 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: to go to the ground because of those conditions. 326 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: You know the rebel is going to pop for real 327 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: war now. So there's a lot of little things that. 328 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: Maybe other fighters don't have just say okay, I want 329 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: to fight the next card. 330 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: But we just pushed through. 331 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: And he's very proud of to have fight under these 332 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: conditions and still he'd be able to win. 333 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: Dude, he's built different. He's built different. 334 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: Let me see this though. It's amazing what he has accomplished, 335 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: and like all the credit in the world to him 336 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: his team, they were wise, if you're going to come 337 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: out here and do it, to do it for three 338 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: weeks in advance. But I will say this, he won't 339 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: do this forever. 340 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: This, Oh life, takes a lot out of you to fight. 341 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. 342 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: Enjoy it while he's doing it. Yeah, I hope everyone 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: appreciates this. I'm not saying he'll never take another short 344 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: notice fight, but this what he's did in the last 345 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: one seventy five he won't do that again. 346 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: And he saved them and maybe that's why they gave 347 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: him this matchup rather than Uncle, something we debated last week. 348 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: But Pooton delivers. So boy, his star is growing and 349 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: we will get into that. And it doesn't even matter 350 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: with the language barrier because he seems to be so 351 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: cool anytime he does a skit or interview or anything. 352 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: But Luke, what he had to do in this fight 353 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: was make real time adjustments. Let's give Roundtree a lot 354 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: of credit. We'll talk more about the chin and what 355 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: he was willing to go through. But he got up 356 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: to a two zero star on the scorecards against one 357 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: of the pomp for pound best in this game, and 358 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't seemingly by accident, he lowered the output of 359 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Perera in that second round specifically, and had him suddenly 360 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: not chasing as aggressively and looking to land one shot 361 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: rather than a barrage of them. What type of adjustments 362 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: did Pooton ultimately make to be able to get on 363 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the other side of that and begin that downhill really 364 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: violent beatdown that culminated in that fourth round. 365 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: Stop, it's such an important question. I have a video 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: out now, as long as UFC doesn't become copyright bullies, 367 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: you can go check it out YouTube dot com slash 368 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: Luke Thomas. 369 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: Well, what they did on here the last two weeks. 370 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're quick with it, But let me let me 371 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: take this off for five minutes so I can think 372 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: a little more clear. Sometimes he's just gonna be distracting. 373 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: It's like turning the radio down when you need to 374 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: follow the direction. 375 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: I think, right, Yes, this to me was so impressive 376 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: by Pooton, in part because, as you mentioned, he was 377 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: down two rounds. Now. I did go back and watch 378 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: this fight a couple of times. I don't think that 379 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: the scoring is in any way off. I did think 380 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: Khalil Rountree deserved to win the first two. However, I 381 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: would I would say this before that he misses on 382 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: the head kick and then turns around and then Roundtree dexhim. 383 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: But for that I think that Poton was on his 384 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: way to winning the second round. That obviously lost it 385 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: because that was really bad, but it was close. But 386 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: like I thought, he was a little bit ahead, and 387 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: then that happened. 388 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rochy won both on damage ultimately. 389 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. But what the question is what was 390 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: Pooton trying to solve four? What was he up against 391 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: and what did he have to do to get around it? 392 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: And he was up against somebody who was doing these 393 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: blitzer You might recall the blitzing he was coming forward with. 394 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: He was not just blitzing for long distances, but putting 395 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: three four punch combinations together, and he was doing it 396 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: off of this galloping motion. Right, You've seen Poton kind 397 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: of gallop into place and it makes him jaron Nis 398 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: does the same thing, and it makes him kind of 399 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: heavy on the front foot, which makes retreating more difficult, 400 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: and so he would barrel in sometimes by the way 401 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: Rountree was moving and then pulling him in with his movement, 402 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: getting him to commit and then these long blitzes. Remember 403 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 4: he would throw these long left straights that would get 404 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: Poetson doing one of those numbers. So he had to 405 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: get the distance right, and he had to realize, this 406 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: guy is moving a lot, he's blitzing a lot. 407 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Let's go back to basics. 408 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: The jab was absolutely essential to this fight, to the 409 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: point where Poetson simply could not have won it. But 410 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: for the jab, the low kick and by the way, 411 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily like every shot was super hard, 412 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: but being as consistent as he could with it. But 413 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: for the low kick, he simply could not have won 414 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: this fight. So what he did was, if you notice 415 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: the first two rounds, you're getting three four punch combinations 416 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: as Rowntree blitzes. But as the jabs began to wear down, 417 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: as the leg kicks begin to wear him down, he 418 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 4: becomes more stationary, and the blitzing you start to get 419 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: two punch combinations one punch all together. So in the end, 420 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: what did he do. He went back to the basics. 421 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 4: He broke the guy down, so he was less mobile, 422 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 4: he couldn't use motion to get away. In short, he 423 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: became more stationary. And then the last big adjustment BC, 424 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: and you'll remember this a lot of times. What he 425 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: would do is he'd have the whole octagon behind him, 426 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: so he could do the Sean Strickland thing where you 427 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: just peel out with your head way back. You can't 428 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: fire back from there, but if I've got all this 429 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: room to go back to, it doesn't really matter. I 430 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: can just escape. Instead of doing that, what did he do. 431 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: He got off at the angle. And when he got 432 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 4: off at the angle, he didn't have to back up 433 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: in a straight line again. He was off at to decide. 434 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: But that's what opened up the right cross, and once 435 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: the heavy artillery began to land, it went downhill fast, 436 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 4: and if. 437 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: You're on the verge of you know, pouring out your 438 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: gas tank, which I think in hindsight and it was 439 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: probably the right strategy for Rountree. He seemed to use 440 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of energy in the first and second round 441 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: trying to land those big shots which want him down 442 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: like that. But that's going to catch up, and it's 443 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: especially going to catch up when you get rocked with 444 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: a big one and then you're right. Once those right 445 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: hands started to hit, the fight started to turn in 446 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: the other direction. And when you're seeing Poton going downhill. 447 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: It takes a herculean performance with the will and the 448 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: chin that round Tree put himself through to even have 449 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: a chance to linger. I mean the shots he was 450 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: taking from Pooton cleanly. Once that sort of changed, once 451 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: those adjustments were being made, I think it played into 452 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: that stamina just not being there for that style as well. 453 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: And you're right when it went downhill, went downhill fast, 454 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know, so you want to be an ultimate 455 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: fighter is always the great Goldie refrain. Here's the picture 456 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: of Roundtree's face after that Dana Quote tweeted to shout 457 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: him out there on Instagram. Whatever. 458 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: How about that wigger that came out of his nose 459 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 4: when he was talking to. 460 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Like brain matter. It was disgusting And like you know, 461 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I talked a lot about him being number eight and 462 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: getting this over Ankliav and it didn't make a lot 463 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: of sense. But you kind of see what the UFC 464 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: was doing. And he didn't need to do this to 465 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: win me over, because I've always respected Roundtree in his 466 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: story and if he would have pulled the upset here, 467 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: you would have been like, man, couldn't have happened to 468 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: a better guy. Seriously, But damn right, dude, he won 469 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: me over with this performance. It's like the willingness in 470 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: his one chance in his shot here to climb the mountain, 471 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: to take what he had to do and still keep 472 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: coming back and resetting himself and trying it was superhuman. 473 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: It was another level. 474 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: I want to say this, I certainly don't disagree with that. 475 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: I mean, Khalil Rowntree, if he didn't have your respect before, 476 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: I think he earned it. 477 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: Because people fall when Poton hits him with one of 478 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: those clean ones, and he's taken four or five. 479 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: How about towards the end of the fourth he's doing 480 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: guard peels, so like Roun Tree is like this, and 481 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: Pooton is literally the one's called a guard peel where 482 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: he takes the hand, rips it down and then comes 483 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: over to an unobstructed view of your face. 484 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: Just drilling it. And that wasn't even what dropped him. 485 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 4: It was the knee followed by the two body shots 486 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: and then the uppercut and that finally set him crashing 487 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 4: to the map, but even then he was still conscious. 488 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: But I just want to say, Khalil Rountree put on 489 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: like we always said, BC. We both said before the fight. 490 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: You go back and look at Demitrius Johnson versus Tim Elliott. 491 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: This was not a guy who you thought, oh, like, 492 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: that's the guy that's going to be Demetrius, and he didn't. 493 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 4: But he gave him a hell of a fight. These 494 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: guys ranked seven and eight, it's the biggest night of 495 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: their life. You have no idea how ready they can be. 496 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: And he really showed us something. But I really want 497 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: to go back to a point about Poeton if I may, 498 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: which is, did Khalil Rowntree have a great game plan 499 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: that he executed on early simply, no question about it. 500 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: Took the first two rounds. But once that game plan 501 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: got exhausted and you saw Poeton manage distance better. He 502 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: wasn't running into things. He was getting his jab cooking, 503 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: he was getting his low kick cooking. He didn't have 504 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: another place to go. The game just kind of evaporated 505 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: and then it fell apart. Pooton could not get his 506 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: left hook going. He landed it a couple times in 507 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: this fight, but was it a big factor. No, And 508 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 4: eventually he landed the right hand, but it was barely 509 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: a factor in the first two or three rounds, barely. 510 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: I love what Pooton did because parts of his game 511 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: the head kick, by the way, on the right hand 512 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: side got ended by the head Did. 513 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: You see how close he came and when they slowed 514 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: that down where the kicks turn directions and just. 515 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: But also like I mean, his head kick is what 516 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. I remember he threw it a couple 517 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: of times, vicious round tree caught it and then circle 518 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 4: parod and came over the top and drill he could. 519 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is the left hook, the right high kick. 520 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: Many of his best weapons were taken away. But what 521 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: does a championship quality guy do. He has a mastery 522 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: of the basics and we call them basic like they're easy, simple, 523 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: not easy. And he was able to go back to 524 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: the jab, back to the low kick and just break 525 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: this guy down so he was more manageable. 526 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: And then he turned on the afterburners. Does he not 527 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: have the right mentor in the corner and Glowe or 528 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: to share who carved out probably the best stretch of 529 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: his career at a time when we thought he was done, 530 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: by going back to the basics of his grappling and 531 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu and really focusing on control and trying not 532 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: to be in as many absolute wars, although Glover inevitably 533 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: always gets in those absolute wars. But Luke, so this 534 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: guy's just different Poeton, And I mentioned, you know, star wise, 535 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: he's he's I mean, he's not John or Connor, but like, 536 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: who the hell is very few in the history. Where 537 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: is he on the star value list right now? I mean, 538 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: I still you know, we did this exercise a couple 539 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, or you know we talked about it 540 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: on various shows when it was McGregor not McGregor, when 541 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: was O'Malley fighting out the sphere. It's like, if he 542 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: wins and if he knocks out Morob, could he be 543 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: the biggest star in the UFC? Is po Aton no 544 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: worse than number three on the list of biggest stars 545 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: in the UFC? Or do you think there's because of 546 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: that value overall that it that it could pull on 547 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: the top that at the moment because it's not like 548 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: Connor's active. 549 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: So are we are we discounting Connor? We make it 550 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: if we're making a list, are we coming it? 551 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: Connor still got to be number one because if he 552 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: walked to that door tomorrow against anybody, it's a million 553 00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: and a half page. 554 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 4: Right, not counting him. Who are the biggest stars? Poton 555 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: has to be on that list. If not, it's like 556 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: John Max, how much does he have? 557 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Oria is a star, but is Islam without a question? 558 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: Like Poton is actively headlining pay per views several times 559 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: in this calendar year. 560 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: So how far has it caught on with the mainstream 561 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: in your opinion? So that's what's interesting. This is this 562 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: is the issue that Poton does face. 563 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: For example, I can only use the traffic that I 564 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: received from let's say UFC three oh six to UFC 565 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: three oh seven, And of course UFC three oh six 566 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 4: was a much bigger deal if for no other reason 567 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: then the venue alone was part of the story. I 568 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: would say that it felt a lot bigger to me 569 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: in terms of the traffic that I received at threeoho 570 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: six versus three oh seven, especially now not three hundred. 571 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: Three hundred was obviously gigantic, but three oh three was 572 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: not necessarily all that big. This is the problem that 573 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 4: Poeton faces. He's so good for the UFC because he wins, 574 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: he shows up, he looks like a fucking serial killer. 575 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: He's got everything that they want. He doesn't have a rival. 576 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: We'll see what on CALIAV can do. 577 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he has his greatest rival, is one of 578 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: the greatest rivalries of all time. He has autisign yet 579 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: at fifth at eighty five a son you could fight 580 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: at two o five. Okay, he done it for the 581 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: title and didn't. 582 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not discounting that, but it seems like 583 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: that's on ice or not in their plans, or if is. 584 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: He said I'm gonna go to two o five, I 585 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: will completely is an argument that he needs that rival 586 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to lift him into like being the number one. 587 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is fighting Yearie is not nothing. It's 588 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: a lot. That's not That was on short notice and 589 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: that was like not that was really not the best 590 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: way to like, you're not setting him up with a 591 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: prime opponent like on a collision course. The Izzy one 592 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: was collision course, both of them, obviously, the two MMA ones. 593 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying, now at fifty and now at two o five, 594 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 4: you've got on callib but he still has to be 595 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 4: rockets and even if he does, he kind he's kind 596 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: of a fucking donk, Like this is why you want 597 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: to see him against a pain to his face, like 598 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: if for no other reason, This is why you want 599 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: to see him against Aspall. Do I think he can 600 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: be Aspital? Probably not because of the wrestling, but at 601 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: least you're giving him another A plus quality guy. 602 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get into in topic two what's next 603 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: specifically for Poeton, But before we do connected to that, 604 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the activity level. What you 605 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: said is right, is not going to fight three more 606 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: times than the next one hundred and seventy five days. 607 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. He's going to have to take 608 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: some time to rest off the brutality of this fight 609 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: and the injuries that he brought in on the short turnaround, 610 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: and just the overall grind. He is thirty eight, but 611 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: if he's scaling upwards potentially, and we'll talk about that, 612 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: heavyweight is still a topic he brings up. Will that 613 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: even matter? How quick should he come back? Luke in 614 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: your eyes knowing the UFC's gonna pick up that phone 615 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: value wise and be like, hey, you ready yet you are? 616 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 6: So? 617 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: I know he wants some time off and he definitely 618 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: needs it if I were, I mean, unless the UFC 619 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: tells him there's no way we're ever going to consider 620 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: using you as any kind of backup for the John 621 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: Jones Stipe fight, that he needs to take the rest 622 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: of the year off. Matter of factly needs to take 623 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: all of October, November, and December completely, like you could 624 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: train or whatever, but like not, no camp, you're not fighting. 625 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: And honestly, I would say first second quarter. I mean, 626 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: I would like to see him back first quarter twenty 627 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: twenty five, second quarter at the latest, because that's what 628 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: I feel. I mean, he's he's never gonna want to 629 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: be away that long anyway. It seems like I don't 630 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 4: think he likes just sitting around. He's thirty eight years old, 631 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: like he has to get to work. So I'm gonna 632 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: say first quarter twenty twenty five seems like a good time. 633 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not that much time in reality, 634 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: but it's for him, it's it. 635 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: But it could be. It could be if he fights, 636 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: let's say in February, late February, he would have, you know, 637 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 4: close to five months away. That's pretty good. 638 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna call him if shit goes Hey 639 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: wired MSG right. 640 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 4: Dude, that's the dude. They'll make a call to anybody 641 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: if shit goes. 642 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's get the topic number two, which is 643 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: about not just what's next for Poton but the impact 644 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: he's making with these performances in his own division. So 645 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: Poton moved into a third place tie with Daniel Korbet 646 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: with three title defenses in light heavyweight history. It seems 647 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: Luke like every three months when he returns and fights 648 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: and knocks somebody big out that we try to frame historically, 649 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: how to frame this possible Journey's not even been with 650 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: the UFC three full years, and look at everything he's accomplished. 651 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: What do you think now in totality when you add 652 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: the Roundtree win to everything he's accomplished in this very 653 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: short time since making the full time move to MMA, 654 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: How did this performance add or change the place that 655 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: he's at in UFC light heavyweight history, Because when you 656 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: look at the numbers and title defenses, he's making some 657 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: moves in a very quick amount of time. 658 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: Can you a set the context so that the folks know, 659 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: like what the leaderboard looks for, So the. 660 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: Leaderboard is like this, John Jones leads light heavyweight history 661 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: with eleven title defenses. Tito Ortiz is number two with five. 662 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: You have Frank Shamrock and Chuck Ledell and tied for 663 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: third with four, and then at three now is Daniel 664 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Cormier and Alex Pereira. 665 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: Okay, so there's two basic things you have to decide 666 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: if you want to rank this properly. One is how 667 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: you want to rank era, because Frank Shamrock and Tito 668 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: are obviously of a different era. They were very, very 669 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: dominant for their time. But some folks are going to 670 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: have difficulty ranking what somebody achieved in twenty twenty four 671 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: relative to two thousand and four. That's gonna be a problem. 672 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: The second problem you're gonna have to kind of reconcile 673 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: is that I personally believe, and I can't exactly prove this, 674 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: but I personally believe that Cormier in general beat better fighters. 675 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: That's what I kind of believe. I would agree with 676 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: that as good as Poeton is, Cormier as light heavyweight 677 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: champion beats him, and we should be very clear about that. 678 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: Not on the feet. I mean, I think Poeton wrecks 679 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: him and just about everybody else on the feet. But Poeton, 680 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at him for this, but he has 681 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: benefited from a historically relatively weak era of light heavyweights. 682 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: Overall, and it's not like they're running Ankleve into him 683 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: on purpose. 684 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: By that right, and also some favorable matchmaking, And I 685 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: don't mind the favorable matchmaking. Like we have said, it 686 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: was smart of the UFC to do it the way 687 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: they've done because look at his star power, Look how 688 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: it's grown, Look how much he's done for them. It 689 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: all worked like it was exactly the right call. But 690 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: when we're evaluating a resume, it's like, dude, like un 691 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: Calia is not even that good of a wrestler, and 692 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: he might boss him around. We don't know. We have 693 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: to see, But like, how would Prime Phil Davis do 694 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: against Pooton? Dude? I hate to tell you this, Prime 695 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: Davis would beat the shit. 696 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Out of him, all right, beat the ship out of 697 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: on the ground. He would not I'm not saying he 698 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't take him down and have great success there, but 699 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: to blankly say that he's going to beat the shit 700 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: out of him, He's still to get those takedowns. He's 701 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: got to walk through the hammer that's coming out of Okay. 702 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: Fine, Long Island, Luke. Prime Phil Davis, what does he do? 703 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: Prime Phil Davis? 704 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 7: What does he do to pull shit out of him 705 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 7: and then come on, yeah, I don't know, it's probably 706 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 7: somewhat competitive where on the we're not We're not like 707 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 7: disputing on the feet. 708 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: Pooton's going to smoke him. That's really not the point 709 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: we're talking about. Like, once he gets a hold of him, what's. 710 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Going to happen. 711 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: It's going to take him down. 712 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: What about Cormier? What is corny crime? Is going to 713 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: take him down? I mean, that's what's gonna happen. 714 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cormier is going to take him down. 715 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: All right, We'll have to see how he does against Uncle. 716 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: I have to get a better sense. 717 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not fighting what you're trying to say ultimately, 718 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: which is he can only fight who's available to him 719 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: in his era right now. They're not comparable in our 720 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: into DC and he's it's not like he's knocking down 721 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: the door to break the record of the title defenses anyway. 722 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's unreachable at this moment. So I think 723 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: it's still too early because he's only been in the 724 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: late heavyweight division for that much and I know that 725 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: it's been a string of all current or former champions 726 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: that he's walking through, but his you know, so much 727 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: of his legacy is middleweight, just the same in the 728 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: short less than three year. 729 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: W Yeah, the question is that you have to ask, 730 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: is is he a top five all time light heavyweight. 731 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: Now? 732 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: Because here's what's noteworthy. Kator is not on that list. 733 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: A two time he deetor belfour is not on that list, 734 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: Bender lay Silva is not on that list. Dan Henderson 735 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: is not on that list. Do you have to ask yourself? 736 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: What is what Poeton's done, as impressive as it has been, 737 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: does it put him above names like that now? I 738 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: think uncomfortably, it does put him ahead of some of 739 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: these guys that we revere. I do think it. I 740 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: do think it puts him ahead of well, Dan Henderson's. 741 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to know how much you can 742 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: count for some of these guys of what they did 743 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: in Pride or what they did out elsewhere. 744 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 4: With Dan Henderson being the middleweight and basically the light 745 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: heavyweight champion. Again it was well to weight midweight for them, 746 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: but essentially those two weight classes, it's pretty remarkable. But 747 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: like in terms of what Poton has done, like what 748 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five day stretch does Dan Henderson 749 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: have at this weight class, and this weight class alone 750 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: that's as good as Potons. I don't know what it is. 751 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Well. I think that's part of what makes Potons so unique, 752 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: not just that it's hard to compare anyone having this 753 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: type of success in such a short window of time, 754 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about the less than three year two 755 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: division champion run or the one hundred and seventy six 756 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: day three title defense run. I mean, just walk through 757 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: these people. It's ridiculous. But Luke, I think his legacy 758 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: is so unique that it has to be his great 759 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: argument is on a totality, like the idea of what 760 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: is he going to do next and will he ever 761 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: get that chance at the three becoming the first three 762 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: division champion. I think his greatest argument is going to 763 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: be not in a specific division. It's kind of like Bjpenn, 764 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: where yes, he made most of his bones at lightweight, 765 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: but it's always debated between the lightweight and welterweight sides 766 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: of his legacy. When trying to rank in just one division, 767 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: it's harder when somebody's built their legacy across two divisions 768 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: in some degree, So. 769 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, impounded more than just those two divisions. 770 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I don't like him even at this point 771 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: in this discussion, because when you look at those title 772 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: defense lists, he's not close, Right. You got to give 773 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: respect to what arties did in that era and what Shamrock. 774 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: And Shamrock one is interesting for me, Like Shamrock was 775 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 4: a was an unbelievable athlete, but like you think. 776 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: The pioneering element takes away from the comparing of greatness. 777 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: Because I think that, I mean, he was dealing with 778 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: light heavyweight and middleweight, like when the differentiator was like 779 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: versus two hundred. 780 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: Pounds in just such a different time for the game. 781 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: It's such a different time for the game. So the 782 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 4: question I ask again, like what one hundred and seventy 783 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: five day stretch do they have that's as comparable as 784 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: this one? Like this is what I mean, Like can 785 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: you say Poeton has passed like a teeto Ortiz That 786 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: seems a lot. On the other hand, what he's doing 787 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: already in these compoun actor amounts of times, like how 788 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 4: much he's putting into it. Almost none of these other 789 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: guys John Jones have four fights in twenty eleven, if 790 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 4: I recall, But most of these other guys don't have 791 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 4: anything on the resume that looks like that particular moment 792 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: in time. 793 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: Look at this stat in terms of days as UFC 794 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Light Heavyweight champion. Jones obviously first over two reigns with 795 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninety eight days as champion, Purty eighth over thirteen 796 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: hundred days, teto Ortiz over twelve hundred days, Ladell seven 797 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy days, Shamrock seven hundred days, Pereira three 798 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty years. And he's already on got three defenses, 799 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: and you could argue he's headlined the last three most 800 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: important cards, like I mentioned International Fight Week when Connor 801 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: fell out three hundred at the last minute, and then 802 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: replacing Jones and Miocic in the msg Man event a 803 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: year ago. Crazy, that's insane. So he's a gamer unlike 804 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: any other. It's it's when we talk, I mean, we 805 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: have to continue to talk about what he's doing. It's incredible, 806 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: but look, let's talk about what he could be doing next. 807 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: Let's go to the quote board here. This is the 808 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: quote he gave in the cage afterwards to Joe Rogan 809 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: about his future. He says, we saw that Drikis is 810 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: going to be fighting Sean Strickland, he is a training 811 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: partner of mine. I don't want to get in Shawn's way. 812 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I can move up to heavyweight, but light heavyweight is great. 813 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: I feel great with this weight cut. So Luke, he's 814 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: been going on and on about going to eighty five 815 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: and fighting DDP. Before that it was I want to 816 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: go to heavyweight and potentially fight John Jones or Aspenhaal 817 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: or whoever's there. What does this tell you? That is 818 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: that he's more comfortable now staying home knowing that it's 819 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: probably in Klaif next. Let's continue to build what he's 820 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: doing it two five. 821 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: Once you get past on Calive, I know Jaanblohovich is 822 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 4: probably still out there and wants another crack, But I 823 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: don't know how exactly. 824 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: What's a split decision there? 825 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 4: First fight fair enough, but I don't know exactly how 826 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 4: close he is to getting another one. I guess he 827 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: could be. Also, he's getting a lot older, so his 828 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of times stops for nobody. It's 829 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 4: a smart call because what he's basically saying, it's, first 830 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: of all, I don't like clear Rowntree is not a 831 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: soft puncher, but Poeton seemed to be able to withstand 832 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: the vast majority of it pretty well. The head kick 833 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: obviously or excuse me, the hook he didn't see, sure off. 834 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: The failed head kick was a lot. 835 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: He also doesn't sell when he's hurt, though you have 836 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: to remember. 837 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 4: Right, very good. So but I'm saying, like you know, 838 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 4: Khalil obviously can thump, and it didn't like crazy beat 839 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: up Poeton, but it probably had him. It clearly observably 840 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 4: had him measuring himself at eighty five against DDP. I 841 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 4: just don't like that. I just it's too much of 842 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 4: a drain. We'll talk about Kayla a little bit later. 843 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: So I think he and his team probably know that 844 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 4: as well, which makes okay. So what are options two 845 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: o five and heavyweight? He'll take a he'll take He'll 846 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: go big game hunting at heavyweight if it's there. But 847 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: like you, look at these guys at two oh five. 848 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: If Rackage, excuse me, if if I'm Caliath can't get 849 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 4: past Rackage, who is the other person in this division 850 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 4: who's gonna wrestle him into the dirt right now? I mean, 851 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 4: I'm not saying it can't be done, but there's no 852 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: obvious candidate. There's no Phil Davis out there waiting to 853 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 4: drive him this way, So it's like, why not? 854 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: What do you think about my three five plan for her? 855 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it has to be three in 856 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: the done because I think at thirty eight he's showing 857 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: he's not showing signs of slippage as long as he 858 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: takes enough rest from the grind of these How about 859 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: this comes back against ank alve provided ankle Ive beats wrackage. 860 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: So you got to take your your true style test 861 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: there you passed that one number three against Adasnya to 862 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: defend your light heavyweight title, because you can kind of 863 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: argue as Ado Sonya played his way out of the 864 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: title picture at middleweight for now. It's a lot of 865 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: losses in yes right now, yes, I could see that. 866 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: And then the third you move up to heavyweight and 867 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: take your swing. Whoever's there probably going to be aspinall. 868 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: But you'll have to wait and see. What do you 869 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: think about that three fight plane. 870 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 4: I don't hate it at all. I don't really know, 871 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 4: aside from Unclelive with a win this later this month, 872 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: I don't know who has some kind of mandate for 873 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: a title shot. Well hoo, which thinks he's got one. 874 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm less convinced, and so you could bring up Izzy easily. 875 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 4: You could sell that one. You're gonna give ancle Ive 876 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 4: who shot, provided he earns it, and then you go 877 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: big game hunting at heavyweight. I mean, okay, would they 878 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 4: it would be a problem. 879 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: Let's say he lost to Anklive. Would they do an 880 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Izzy trilogy without a title? 881 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, if they needed one, sure, but it would need 882 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 4: to be five rounds. So would the worst case scenario 883 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 4: have to be some kind of Comaine somewhere that they 884 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 4: could just bump. 885 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: To five, make that a paper ifew man event without 886 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: a title. It's just rivalry alone. 887 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 4: I don't think you can. 888 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know if you'd waste that without a 889 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: title and try to wait to see what happens if 890 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: he gets I don't know. There's a lot of what if. 891 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 4: I'm with I'm with you, that they could do that. 892 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 4: I don't know that they would do that. 893 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: So you want I got some early offshore odds of 894 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: what they think Poton would be against other opponents, Okay, 895 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: plus one twenty versus Ankliev, I could buy that, plus 896 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: three hundred versus aspinall, I could definitely buy that plus 897 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: one fifty five against at Asania at what wait, there's 898 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: no no, no preference on that. I don't I don't believe. 899 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: In those two of five. I don't buy that. 900 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then plus four fifty against Jones. 901 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably fair. 902 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: One name we're not mentioning in terms of who's next 903 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: is former champion Jamal Hill. But Jamal Hill had this 904 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: reaction in the crowd after Poton delivered the ko luke, 905 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: did you see it? It looks like Tyron Woodley? 906 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean who yawns like that? 907 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: I thought he was getting after something right there. 908 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: He was doing the like like, uh, you know how 909 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 4: Anderson Silva used to like he would blow a kiss 910 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 4: by kissing his palm and then like like you know 911 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 4: what's the one of those things an alien that like 912 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 4: they latch onto your face? 913 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: I know exactly, Like don't most people do like this? 914 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 4: Like oh like that he was like he was like 915 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: trying to like. 916 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't impressed by it. So this information was 917 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: passed on to Poet. 918 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 8: At the postfight press coff, Jamal Hill was seen yawning 919 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 8: after the fight. Looks like he's implying that the fight 920 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 8: was boring. 921 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 9: I'm just curious if you can respond to that. 922 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he just woke up from three hundred. Dude, 923 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: he can't miss. Seriously, like you're waiting for him to 924 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: be super cringe on camera one day and he can't miss. 925 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: He just is I mean, he couldn't have been less 926 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 4: bothered by that. 927 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's the response on IG in the comments section 928 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: from Jamal Hill, who said, you said that, but you 929 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: will see me soon and we will see when you 930 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 1: wake up. The Internet does not like Jamal Hill's attack here. 931 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance he gets in the 932 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: sweepstakes without coming back. 933 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 4: I think it's possible. He has history with him and listen. 934 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's the history. I mean, he's trying to 935 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: claim that that the referee distraction led to the KO 936 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: but you rewatch the tape and that's not true. 937 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, But like dude, Squeaky Wheel gets the grease. 938 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter like he has Okay. 939 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: What if he shows up an attacks him, that changes 940 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the equation. You show up. 941 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he can do the whole Shannon the Cannon Briggs. Yes, 942 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 4: let's go Chack. 943 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: I eat where you eat, Champ because he can. 944 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 4: He'll find him in Brazil paddle boarding stand up paddle 945 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 4: board dude. People get annoyed by the Jamal Hill thing. 946 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: I'm fine that you can be annoyed by it, but 947 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 4: like he's actively trying to create a reason for you 948 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: to either. He thinks he's like lobbying, I think for 949 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: a title shot, but what he's actually doing is making 950 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 4: people hate him enough where if they booked the fight, 951 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: you would really want to see Jamal Hill get I 952 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 4: think a lot of fans would see him get like 953 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 4: crushed again. But that's incentive for the UFC to make 954 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 4: it like he wins. 955 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: You want to see that fight? I mean, can a 956 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: long Caliov get his chance and he's got to go 957 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: through a guy who just lost by t KO two 958 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: consecutive times. 959 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 4: Alexander Rakich is a big dude. He was he was 960 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 4: beating the ship out of Potchka before he gets kick 961 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 4: making this. 962 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: Guy run through hurles Man, give him a shot. 963 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: Uncleliav finds himself in this position because he has donked 964 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 4: it up. 965 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: He is a dog multiple times. 966 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 4: How the fuck do you have a draw with five 967 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: rounds with Blohovich when it was your turn, Like you 968 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 4: could have just taken the fucking guy down, and you 969 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 4: were just out here dicking around for three rounds. 970 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: Around and got a triple double. I think is what happened. Hey, 971 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: we got to keep going here. Let's go to topic 972 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: number three. Wow. The bantamweight division women's side in UFC 973 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: was put on full showcase at three oh seven on Saturday. 974 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: Juliana became a two time champion at one thirty five 975 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: with a very disputed split decision win over rock Heelle 976 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: Rocky Pennington and number one contender status seemed to be 977 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: locked up and cemented by Kayla Harrison and her tougher 978 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: than expected decision when against Kaitlyn Vieira. So, Luke, we're 979 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: not gonna pull any punches here, Okay, you ready for this? 980 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 4: Okay? 981 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: What did UFC three oh seven in totality illustrate about 982 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: the current status of the UFC women's ban in white division. 983 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 4: It's sorry, sorry, I mean, I hate to be so 984 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: blunt about it. It's just not great. Listen. Can we 985 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 4: be honest. 986 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: You're not here to like come on them in my 987 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Twitter and say that, like, you know, we need to 988 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: shut down all the women's divisions and money will go 989 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: up and let's keep the fans. 990 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 4: No, I don't believe. 991 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't. 992 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 4: I don't hate women. Okay, that's the difference. I do 993 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 4: think that this division is not great, but I don't 994 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 4: hate women more generally, and so I'm not encumbered by 995 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 4: these like very difficult feelings that certain people have to reconcile. 996 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: I will say this. Let me, let me, let me 997 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: just have a small question to you. What kind of 998 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: grade would you give the fight itself. 999 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: A letter of? In a letter grade, yeah. 1000 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 4: ABCD and D minus F. What do you think D plus? 1001 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 4: I think it's a little strong. I'd give it A. 1002 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 4: I'd give it a C maybe at worst. 1003 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: I said before, Yeah, I think it's about right. 1004 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 4: I think she's about it. It wasn't terrible. It wasn't good, 1005 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 4: but it wasn't terrible. 1006 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean it was better than the Buenos Silva Pennington 1007 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: Vacant title fight. 1008 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 4: That's not saying much. 1009 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: There was like intensity and people. 1010 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: I want to be for. First of all, I thought 1011 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 4: Rocky Pennington won. I thought that she deserved to win. 1012 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 4: In real time, I've not gone back and watched it 1013 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 4: like you did, so perhaps don't have a different perspective. 1014 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: And I didn't hate the fight. But when I watched this, 1015 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 4: it did not occur to me that these were two 1016 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: transcendent athletes who were clearly better than the rest of 1017 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: their peers, fighting over a very coveted prize. It's a 1018 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 4: coveted prize, and it was a fine fight, but it 1019 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 4: didn't seem superb or excellent, or different or batter than 1020 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 4: what you would get for Run of the Milk contenders. Anyway, 1021 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 4: it was. 1022 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you feel like elite mma. 1023 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: It did not in any way feel like elite mma, 1024 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: and I think that's really the kind of problem. Of course, 1025 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 4: it was for the title, and to the point that 1026 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 4: you raise, like Rocky Pennington has kind of had these 1027 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 4: wins where she's put together absent Saturday, a good win streak, 1028 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 4: but a lot of them were like nickel and diming 1029 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 4: her way here, and then she loses one on the 1030 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 4: other end of nickel and diming because round one was 1031 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 4: essentially the swing round. 1032 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: At least the one definitely was. So two of three 1033 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: judges gave round one to Payna. 1034 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 4: Which I didn't see in real time, but I can 1035 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 4: sort of understand. 1036 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: You agree though, that two and three definitely rounds, and 1037 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: then four and five you got to give Rocky credit 1038 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: if you're scoring it Pride Vision, just look at the fight. 1039 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: Who won it. Rocky landed the bigger shots. 1040 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 4: And also paint a guest dude, like the memorable offense 1041 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 4: is what the backticking by Paynes and then the big 1042 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 4: right hand that dropped Payne by Pennington. Those are the 1043 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 4: things you really remember. And because like there wasn't like 1044 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 4: a really tight submission or there wasn't it was just 1045 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 4: good back control. It was good back control. This is 1046 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 4: sort of what I'm it just felt like you're not 1047 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 4: watching like it wasn't in any way must see. It 1048 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: wasn't better than a lot of what you see from 1049 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: the other peer divisions, even to Women's MMA. It felt 1050 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: like a fight that had to happen to move the 1051 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 4: chains forward. 1052 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: I know, but it's like any moment they tried to create, 1053 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: from the split screen with Kayla to everything like it 1054 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: just kind of fell flat. Even Kayla's performance, which I 1055 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: want to get into and I was impressed by it, 1056 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: it didn't have that minus nine hundred running through your screen, 1057 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: big finish, like finally you know she's here to save 1058 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: the bantamweight division. I'm not really sure, but quickly on 1059 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: the scoring. I rewatched the first round. For whatever it's worth, 1060 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a robbery in real time. 1061 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: I did score it for Pena. I rewatched it almost 1062 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: expecting that I would go back and score it for Pennington, 1063 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: and I just think it's that close. Pennington had the 1064 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: flashier shots with when you consider the right uppercut that 1065 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: she caught it on a perfect angle with, and she 1066 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: had also a big right hand. But I thought Penya 1067 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: landed more shots. I thought her jab was more consistent, 1068 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: and she did have three big right hands in the 1069 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: final five seconds that I think was enough to just 1070 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: sway slightly. Ultimately, it's a ten ten round where not 1071 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: much happened that ultimately decided to fight, though, so I 1072 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: think there's layers and we'll get into the undercard. In 1073 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: some of the debates between robberies and stuff, there's levels 1074 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: and layers to This wasn't a robbery. It was just 1075 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: a really close round that could have gone either way 1076 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: in my opinion, although obviously with your eyes are telling you, 1077 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: Pennington fought the better fight overall, and she peeked in 1078 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: the championship browns, which is what you want. 1079 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 4: Definitely not a robbery that would be totally unfair. It 1080 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 4: was close, and as a rule, as a rule, if 1081 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 4: a fight is close in the ten point must system, 1082 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 4: it can go to either person. You have to live 1083 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 4: with that, even if you sort of more clearly favor 1084 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 4: one person over the other. Right, But I mean, this 1085 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 4: is the thing for me. It's like, dude, why did 1086 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 4: they bring in Painya? They brought her in not because 1087 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: she was on a hot wind streak. She hadn't fought 1088 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: in two years, but that held. 1089 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: Her back, I thought guessed out in the championship rounds well. 1090 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 4: More to the point, they brought her in because yes, 1091 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 4: she has an action oriented style for the most part, 1092 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: but really it's because she would sell the fight, and 1093 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: in fact, during fight week she sold the rivalry with 1094 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: Kayla Harrison. We're kind of jibber jabbering at the presser. 1095 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 4: She does a lot of media interviews where if she 1096 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 4: goes after them, and then in the post fight moment 1097 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 4: with Joe Rogan whether asking her like, what's next to 1098 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 4: your point with this? They had a split screen and 1099 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 4: she calls out Amanda Newness. There is no mandate for 1100 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 4: that third fight at all. Nobody wants to see it, 1101 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: nobody was asking for it. 1102 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: The first fight was affected by Amanda's lack of performance, 1103 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: and the right was wrong did the rematch she. 1104 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 4: Won, being is, if you're brought in for a purpose, 1105 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 4: which is to energize the rivalry, don't deflate the rivalry 1106 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 4: by fucking it up when it's your turn to energize. 1107 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Even though I'm trying to tell you that there's an 1108 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: argument for Paenya and I scored it just by you know, 1109 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: ten point must system round by round, it was almost 1110 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario that she won in the manner 1111 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 1: she did kind of fading late and then the crowd's booing, 1112 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 1: and then they're just sort of like, we're not accepting 1113 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: this division necessarily, and we're not even accepting this champion. 1114 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: And then she doesn't even build the rivalry with Kayla. 1115 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: She goes into into business for her to the Newness fight, 1116 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: and she's not gonna be able to get that Newness 1117 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: fight unless she goes through Kayla first. And that should 1118 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: be rightfully so it would seem like, obviously because Kyla 1119 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: versus Amanda's the much bigger fight with the bigger storyline 1120 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: that they would be building to. But luke I didn't 1121 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: see enough improvement from Payne on the two year gap, Like, 1122 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: was her boxing as poor technically as it was in 1123 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: the in the Amanda rematch. No, but I didn't see 1124 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: as much of a physical threat that you know. She Yes, 1125 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: she took her back in that one point, but it 1126 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like the threat of the takedown was constantly there. 1127 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: It was just sort of two competitive people going for 1128 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: a title. 1129 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 4: That is it, No more, no less. 1130 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: So not only did Payania not allow the moment to 1131 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: try to build to the Kayla fight, This is her 1132 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: afterwards at the press conference, continuing the theme that she 1133 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: just wasn't impressed with Kayla at all. 1134 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 10: I was, to be honest, I'll tell you I was 1135 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 10: warming up and focusing on my own fight. But with 1136 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 10: that being said, I had my coaches there watching the 1137 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 10: fight and kind of giving me the four one one 1138 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 10: on what was going down. We're not impressed. She said 1139 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 10: she was going to to put an elbow through her 1140 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 10: skull and she was gonna, you know, do all this damage. 1141 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 10: Like the girl didn't have a scratch on her. It 1142 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 10: was boring and she didn't do anything that you know, 1143 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 10: jumped off the pages like oooh, the boogeyman, you know 1144 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 10: what I mean. So I was definitely, you know, especially 1145 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 10: with you know, hearing from my team not impressed. 1146 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 1: Well, look, the counter to that statement might have come 1147 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: from Kayla after the fight when she said, ultimately, I 1148 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: think Kaitlyn Vieira, who she had to not rally but 1149 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: make adjustments and win a victory despite being swollen and 1150 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: cut from the damage. She said she thinks she's tougher 1151 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: than both Pennington or Pinion in terms of a tougher opponent. 1152 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: After hearing what Juliana said, do you agree or are 1153 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: you more impressed than you are not with how Kayla 1154 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: ultimately got it done in this Number one contender fight. 1155 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 4: I actually felt like Painya's assessment of Harrison's performance was 1156 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 4: actually quite fair. 1157 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: I was also not super impressed. 1158 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: Okay, why so, okay, listen, how do I say this exactly? 1159 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 4: Harrison's ground game is terrifying. It's terrifying, especially with elbows, right, 1160 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 4: She's ridiculous in that regard, So you really have to 1161 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 4: respect that, and I do. I think that's the part 1162 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 4: of her game that is electric. But I just don't 1163 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 4: think people really understand exactly how much weight she's losing 1164 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 4: like people talk about the weightcut, the weight cut is 1165 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 4: actually the least of my concerns with her. It's the 1166 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 4: amount of she is going to in order to make 1167 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five pounds. The length of the 1168 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 4: caloric deficit that she has to be in has to 1169 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 4: be fucking her up big time. I made this point 1170 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 4: to Long Island Luke before the show. Whenever she moves, 1171 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 4: not in judo, where she was one hundred and seventy 1172 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 4: six pounds when she competed, understand forty more pounds naturally 1173 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 4: than where she is ultimately to get down to one 1174 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 4: thirty five. When she was doing that, she was fleet 1175 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 4: of foot and quick. I mean she wasn't like you know, 1176 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 4: like Tyreek Hill or something. She's exposed explosive period. Looks 1177 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 4: like she's moving in quicksand like she almost as one 1178 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 4: of you haven't seen those guys on the track and 1179 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 4: they're running and they've got the parachute attached to themselves. 1180 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 4: It feels like she can barely move the way she 1181 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 4: is actually capable of moving. 1182 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: And do you think it wasn't as much as Kaitlyn 1183 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: Via showing really good takedown defense, And maybe it was 1184 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: just Kayla not having that extra gear that she would normally. 1185 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 4: So that's so I'm glad you asked that because I 1186 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 4: think that's one part of the equation what I've mentioned 1187 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 4: in terms of I don't really think folks appreciate how 1188 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 4: much not the weight cut per se, but the entire 1189 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 4: caloric deficit she has to be. 1190 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: On at one fifty five in PFL, she's fighting at one. 1191 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 4: Thirty again at judoh one seventy six. Yes, I don't 1192 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 4: think folks really appreciate that she. 1193 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: Had one fight at one forty five and made this 1194 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: huge leap down and they made her It's well, they 1195 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: made her go through a second hurdle of Vieira, but 1196 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: like she did, show toughness, calmness, poise, made the adjustments, 1197 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: found out the way to win the fight. But even 1198 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: in my white belt eyes, Luke, she's got to have 1199 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: more opportunities to bring the fight to the ground. It 1200 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: feels like she has that one entry so of trying 1201 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: to get the trip in the clinch and that's it. 1202 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 4: You know what's kind of interesting to me about this 1203 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 4: is if you look at Habib. Habib was interesting to me, 1204 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 4: and I know there's some folks being like you know 1205 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 4: who who is who has a better record, Habib or Poeton? 1206 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 4: Like who deserves the better placement on the goat ranking? 1207 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 4: And the answer is Sabib. Although what Poton is doing 1208 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 4: is obviously very, very impressive and special. 1209 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: We don't hold the one title defense against Tabibe. 1210 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 4: I think it's two title defenses if I'm not mistaken, No, 1211 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 4: you do. You have to hold it against him like 1212 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 4: he bowed out early. That's going to cost him. But 1213 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 4: Habib was a guy who. 1214 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: Three He got Connor Justin and Dustin Connor Justin. 1215 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 4: Maybe three was to win it, though, wasn't it. 1216 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember now it was all Quinta to win it. 1217 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 4: That's right. But the point I want to make is 1218 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 4: I forgot what. Oh yes, Habib has the ability to 1219 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 4: get those trips in the clinch, But if that doesn't work, 1220 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 4: he'll just go back to traditional single and double leg 1221 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 4: wrestling or then mix that into bodylock wrestling, and he 1222 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 4: could put all of them together. Habib, by the way, 1223 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 4: like why he wins over the Poton argument is because 1224 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 4: he leveled up the game, right, The game got better, 1225 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 4: The entire game got better by virtue of what guys 1226 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 4: like him and he was the vanguard of it. We're 1227 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 4: doing like a poton hasn't had that effect on the game, 1228 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 4: And I don't think, folks, well you appreciate that. What 1229 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 4: I'm trying to point out to you is what you're right. 1230 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 4: Half of it is, we're just draining this dynamic athlete 1231 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 4: down to dust and you're not getting a very good 1232 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 4: version of her, at least relative to what we know 1233 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 4: it could be. The other component is when she had 1234 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 4: that one body lock up against the cage, it was 1235 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 4: kind of harassing the balance of Vietna. Like, go back 1236 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 4: and watch what I've said about Habib. What does Habib 1237 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 4: do when he has someone up against the fence like that? 1238 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 4: He is moving them left to right board and back 1239 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 4: to get them to balance, and then from that he 1240 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 4: can change levels, he can pick up a leg, he 1241 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 4: can do whatever he needs to do to harass them 1242 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 4: to take them off balance. She was just kind of 1243 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 4: standing there, and again it's like, I appreciate how much 1244 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 4: this cut is so insane, but if all you can 1245 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: do is off a bodylock, the course is easy for 1246 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 4: me to say, but all you can do with body 1247 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 4: lock is kind of harassed the balance. Are we supposed 1248 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 4: to rate that highly. I don't think we're supposed to 1249 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,479 Speaker 4: rain that highly. 1250 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: She didn't have a lot of success striking on the 1251 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: feet against Viera, and that's the other problem. Via might 1252 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: have been the toughest challenge available to her in this division. 1253 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 4: It might be true, yeah, and I'm sure she punches 1254 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 4: hard and it's not no simple thing, But like you're 1255 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 4: almost twenty fights in. This is what I think. I 1256 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 4: think it's hard to understand how much that cut is 1257 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 4: killing her because it just looks like it's very hard 1258 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 4: for her to move in a dynamic way on the feet, 1259 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 4: and I have to believe she's getting drained to a 1260 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 4: point where she's not not recognizable as an athlete. 1261 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: Well, you wonder, can she do the five rounds championship? 1262 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: And that's the necessity at this weight class. 1263 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 4: She can get the takedown. Yes, if she has to 1264 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 4: stand on the feet and someone's like forcing her to engage, 1265 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1266 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: I don't know how to Offshore odds have minus seven 1267 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: hundred Harrison plus five hundred Pana, which surprised me that 1268 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: it would be that that big big surprise you. That's 1269 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: that suggests absolute domination from what you saw in the 1270 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 1: two matchups. Do you still think absolute domination for person 1271 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: is in the cards? I think at the you know, Painia, 1272 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: like Pennington, is good enough to be stubborn and to 1273 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: really make it a close, grinding fight if kyles plan 1274 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: A doesn't go her way. Do you believe KALs plan 1275 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: A would go her way in a matchup with Pinia 1276 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: fairly easily. 1277 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 4: The only thing I can say is that Pania is 1278 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: going to bring the fight to her in a way 1279 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 4: where Vieira was a little bit more reluctant. Sure, and 1280 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 4: that's going to open up. That's going to open up 1281 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 4: all opportunities. And by the way, once Kayla gets someone down, 1282 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not gonna say it's curtains, but it's 1283 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 4: real ugly for their opponents. Like she's been on the ground. 1284 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 4: She's better than everyone else in that division quite obviously, right. 1285 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 4: It's just that the transition and then the space before 1286 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 4: it's like twenty fights in, you're a double gold medal winner, 1287 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 4: like there has to be more so for. 1288 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,479 Speaker 1: Everything we said about this division to start this point, 1289 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: and maybe you know it's at a very low moment, 1290 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: but the best case scenario did happen for the promotion 1291 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: that these two are going to now build to the 1292 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,479 Speaker 1: title fight Penia versus Harrison, because they're the biggest sort 1293 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: of talk and brands. And if we think the winner 1294 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: gets potentially amanded new is coming out of retirement, that's 1295 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: not awful for a division that is pretty awful right now, 1296 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm going through an awful stretch. 1297 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 4: That is the best way for it to be played. Again, 1298 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 4: I think Penya kind of shot the bed a little bit, 1299 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 4: being like, I'm going to find a man in Nuna 1300 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 4: is like, okay, you're not, You're not. But I would 1301 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 4: agree they clearly wanted to milk a little bit a 1302 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 4: Panya and Harrison rivalry. And again, I think Penya will 1303 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 4: sell the shit out of this fight when it finally 1304 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 4: can talk. Kayla's gotten a lot better with it as well. 1305 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 4: But in terms of like my long term projections for 1306 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 4: the interview for the division, it's not like I walked 1307 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 4: away from three oh seven being like, you know what, 1308 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 4: there's a renewed sense of life for here. 1309 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: I didn't get that since five there's not here. One 1310 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: more piece of business connected to this was the smart 1311 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: cage during three oh seven. Thought it was smart to 1312 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: qi smart some highlights of Larissa Pateko in the third 1313 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 1: meeting with Kayla Harrison that happened under the PFL banner 1314 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: and she got the decision upset win. That information was 1315 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: shared with Dana at the post fight press conference to 1316 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: give them a chance to dunk all over Don Davis 1317 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: and the boys in Luke Double Old Double D's He 1318 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: did that, Let's. 1319 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 8: Listen posted a video about a few hours before her fight, 1320 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 8: kind of putting her down and using that as a 1321 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 8: way to promote their upcoming fight with Larissa. What do 1322 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 8: you think as a promoter do you think that's the right. 1323 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 9: Kind of play to go. 1324 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 2: I think when you're losing as much money as they are, 1325 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: fucking go for it. Throw fucking throw the kitchen sink 1326 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: at it. 1327 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 4: These guys. 1328 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 2: This guy just came out recently said, you know, we're 1329 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: gonna spend more money than they did on the sphere. 1330 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 2: That sounds fucking brilliant. How many tickets you're gonna sell? 1331 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: They're not very many. If I were them, I would 1332 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: do it. Listen, it's all fair. Knock yourself out there. 1333 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: They're drowning, drowning, They suck. I mean that they're not 1334 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 2: good at what they do, so I guess you would 1335 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 2: just keep trying anything you can to make something stick. 1336 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 4: All good. 1337 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: Wow, he seemed to enjoy that that session. 1338 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 4: I mean, here's the problem. Can you really say he's 1339 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 4: wrong about anything? 1340 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: You Canna? I wish it was different. I wish I 1341 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: could beg the differ, Luke. But I am excited for 1342 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: this paper of you coming up with Donald. There's matchups 1343 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: on there. But hey, we got to keep it going. 1344 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number four. It's elsewhere at UFC 1345 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: three oh seven, which featured a cacophony of bad judging, 1346 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: worse referee. Can we talk about that, Anna, Carla, as 1347 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: far as a retirement? So, Luke, I'm gonna ask you, 1348 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: what do you think the biggest storyline is coming out 1349 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: of the three oh seven undercard? Pick whatever you want 1350 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: right now? All right? 1351 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 4: So I will say this you can complain about I 1352 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 4: can't pronounce his name, said just dad, say his dad 1353 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 4: the referee. 1354 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: I call him local referee. Yeah, local referee. 1355 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 4: And they sayzar El madea ehor Potieria by the way, 1356 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 4: Ehorp Potieria. Is he the guy? Like there's always one 1357 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 4: guy on the roster and they win and lose but 1358 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 4: they lose their balance more than anybody else. I feel 1359 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 4: like Potieria is like always has vertigo or some shit 1360 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 4: like he can't stay on his feet for fucking anything. 1361 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: So you're saying it's not he's not actually always in 1362 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: action wars. He just can't. He has no balance and 1363 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: he's always fine like. 1364 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 4: It does he have a busted ear drum or something 1365 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 4: like what's wrong with him? Also, he does have very 1366 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 4: good tattoos. I don't want his tattoos. 1367 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: But that's very aggressive representation of crisis. 1368 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 4: It's a very aggressive one. But hey, it works for him. 1369 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 4: Let me say this and credit to the MMA draw 1370 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 4: in particular Zach Arnold previously or I think he still 1371 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 4: might have fight opinion. He has made a point for 1372 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 4: quite some time and it's really worth taking seriously. Which 1373 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 4: is and it's not just with UFC, it's almost in 1374 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 4: sports more generally, depending on where you look, which is 1375 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 4: that who is one of the biggest customers the UFC 1376 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 4: serves is. 1377 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: You read that piece on the train this morning? 1378 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Is it you? 1379 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: And is it me? 1380 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 4: To an extent, but it is also government contracts that 1381 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: they have to serve, and that's actually who many. 1382 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Of that that's when you sign with a big city 1383 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: for a multimillion dollar deal. Three events in the year. 1384 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 4: So why were they in Utah? Why were they? Why 1385 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 4: was the UFC in Utah? Were they in Utah because 1386 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 4: they have the best commission? No? Were they because they 1387 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 4: had the best fans. They had some decent fans, yeah, 1388 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 4: but nothing like like super special about it. They were fine, 1389 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 4: they were good. But I wasn't downtown in Salt Lake City. 1390 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 4: I did like I do like Salt Lake City. However, 1391 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 4: my point I'm trying to make is they were there 1392 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 4: because basically, the government of Utah and through VISA Vasalt 1393 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 4: Lake City and the commission there, they had essentially paid 1394 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 4: them the tourism board excuse me, they had paid them 1395 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:17,439 Speaker 4: to be there. 1396 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: That's why they were Ryan Smith, Oh yeah, yeah, oh 1397 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: the guy. 1398 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. But I'm just trying to I'm trying to make 1399 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 4: a bigger argument. This is why it's relevant. Why do 1400 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 4: you have dumb fuck judges and terrible referees? Because when 1401 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 4: the UFC goes to a new state, they will bring 1402 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 4: a Herb Dean or a Mark Goddard or more established referees, 1403 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 4: and then they'll also just sample the local population for 1404 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 4: what they have. Well, Utah's commission is not great. It's 1405 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 4: not it's not a fight city. 1406 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: They don't have a great history outside of those two 1407 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: big UFC cards where they were head kick knock out. 1408 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 4: So this is the point I'm trying to make. The 1409 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 4: UFCS is in a business where they want to get 1410 01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 4: maximum revenue from tourism boards in Australia, tourism entities in 1411 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 4: the Middle East, tourism boards here even Stateside, and to 1412 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 4: do that that means they have to go to places 1413 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 4: that would ordinarily never get these fights, which means you're 1414 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 4: getting judges and referees who suck balls, who are not 1415 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 4: good at their job. And by the way, I want 1416 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 4: to say this, you are fucking up fighters, careers, and 1417 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 4: you are fucking up You're right, Okay. So my point 1418 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 4: I'm trying to make here is it's nice to go 1419 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 4: and take the UFC machine to all different places. 1420 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: I've had enough of Utah. 1421 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 4: And if the. 1422 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Whole point is, if the whole point. 1423 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 4: Is the only reason why we're really there is because 1424 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 4: we're just maximum bidding essentially government contracts. The people who 1425 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 4: end up suffering the most is actually not even you 1426 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 4: and me it's the fighters who get screwed with bad 1427 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 4: judges or referees who watch four to five ipokes and 1428 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 4: don't even give a fucking warning. 1429 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: So it's unforgivable that performance in the Potiera Fright that 1430 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about. I think, unfortunately a lot of the 1431 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: other black eyes on this card began to all like 1432 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: another moment where I don't even think all of these 1433 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: were actually robberies, but it all got thrown in of 1434 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: just another incompetence. You're right on a larger point. I 1435 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: don't like when you go to a new place in 1436 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: local referee or judge you know, screws the pooch. I 1437 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: hate that feeling. It does mess with people's careers. But like, 1438 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: how about specifically the Mario Bautista Jose al Tho fight, 1439 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: because I do think that that the judging on that 1440 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: ends up getting tossed into the corruption. You know, they're 1441 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: inept when I'm not sure that actually was. Couldn't you 1442 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: argue that Mario Bautista just played the system of the 1443 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: rules of the scoring, knowing it and strategically won the 1444 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: fight in the manner that he did, particularly in that 1445 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 1: third round, just constantly after he had built a tiny, 1446 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: a tiny lead in the striking early in round three, 1447 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 1: was just content to constantly push Jose to the cage. Yes, 1448 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: referee would break once in a while, but he'd dive 1449 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: back in and do it. You can boo him, yes, 1450 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think him getting a close decision when 1451 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: in that instance is a robbery or completely inept judging. 1452 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: It all goes back to the scoring system. 1453 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 4: Okay, put the camera on me. Please, here we go, 1454 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 4: put the camera on me. This one goes out to 1455 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 4: all of the fucking idiots who when I tried to 1456 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,479 Speaker 4: explain in my videos that I'm in we talked about 1457 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 4: on the show as well. In conversation with referee Herb Dean, 1458 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: I asked a very basic question, which is what do 1459 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 4: you want MMA to look like? And the argument that 1460 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 4: I have made very consistently is, of course there is 1461 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,919 Speaker 4: going to be a way to do this too over 1462 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 4: the top, too aggressively, but you want somebody to not 1463 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 4: allow fighters to maintain control positions by just essentially busy work, 1464 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 4: you know, throwing shots that don't really do anything and 1465 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 4: no one is able to extricate them, and then the 1466 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 4: fight stalls out there. It's two of the most downvoted 1467 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 4: videos I've ever posted on my channel. Well, a bunch 1468 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 4: of people be saying no, no, no, and now some 1469 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 4: of you have the balls to be like Mario Bautista 1470 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 4: ruin this bout. 1471 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: This is the payment for. 1472 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 4: Everybody who said no, I don't want a system with 1473 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 4: the referees enforce the action. Yes, the fuck you do. 1474 01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 4: Look exactly what happened. This is a new era where 1475 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 4: people can use control positions with busy work to hold it. 1476 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 4: It makes fighting boring a shit unpalatable and nobody wants it. 1477 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 4: So for everyone who said, oh, that's not what I want, 1478 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 4: that's ridiculous, I wouldn't want that Marob was working. No, 1479 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 4: he wasn't. 1480 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: In parts, he was absolutely not working in that fifth round, 1481 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: wars actively with different people. 1482 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 4: I just want to point out it is so fucking 1483 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 4: dishonest for people one week ago to say no, no, no, 1484 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 4: Morob was working. This is ridiculous when clearly, observably in 1485 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 4: the fifth round was not working. Then you get somebody 1486 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 4: who beats a guy that you love and adore in 1487 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 4: a way that I agree sucked. 1488 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: It was not a great way, but he's a great 1489 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: way to win them. 1490 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 4: Exactly he's fighting by the fucking rules that everyone out 1491 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 4: there was like, these are the rules that we want, Well, 1492 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 4: welcome to the rules that you want. 1493 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Well. I also think there's not I don't think all 1494 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the fighters can be as active as Bautista was. A 1495 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: big part of his game is his motor that has 1496 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: led to this very very under the radar six fight 1497 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: win stream. Again, there's a risk in doing that. You're 1498 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: gonna risk the booze of the crowd, You're going to 1499 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: risk getting lower placement in the car, You're going to 1500 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: risk pissing off data. But I don't think the issue 1501 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: here was the judges. It was the scoring system or 1502 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: in your case, the referee, who could have I. 1503 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 4: Don't blame my lord even more, but Mike Boutron did 1504 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 4: separate them. 1505 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: But within the scoring system. Though, as long as in 1506 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: this instance that that Bautista thinks he's ahead on the cards, 1507 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: isn't what he's doing to Jose at least taxing him 1508 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 1: out and taking him away from his game. Isn't there 1509 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: some level of like controlling the terms of the bout 1510 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: in there that I guess I get. There wasn't damage, 1511 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: so we're not really comparing damage here. But what he's 1512 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: doing is also on Jose to get your ass off 1513 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the cage. That's also what I got to add in 1514 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: there to that. 1515 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I certainly agree that Jose. I mean, Bautista did 1516 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 4: make a good point by the way people are killing 1517 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 4: Bautista online, and I'm like, you can look at other 1518 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 4: fights like he's not a he's not a dynamic finisher, 1519 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 4: but he definitely has like an all action style. I 1520 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 4: can say that for sure. But the point I want 1521 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 4: to make was, yes, there is some blame to go 1522 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 4: on Jose, but Jose is not up against the cage 1523 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 4: because he's choosing to be. He's up against the cage 1524 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 4: because Bautis is pressing him there without advancing the fight. 1525 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 4: That's the problem. Can you look at that scenario and 1526 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 4: say reasonably that the guy who's in the control position, 1527 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 4: which is Bautista, is he working to advance the fight 1528 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 4: towards a finish observably? 1529 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: No, But tell me if I'm wrong. Isn't he trying 1530 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to take Jose down the entire time? It's just that 1531 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Aldough is such a has such great takedown sixteen for 1532 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: sixteen against Morob that it becomes that scenario. 1533 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 4: Fine, I'm okay with saying that he was the one 1534 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 4: trying to take him down if after and again, everyone's 1535 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 4: gonna have a different sense of things. I'm not gonna 1536 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 4: say shot clock, but after about a minute, if you 1537 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 4: can't do it, this position has fulfilled its usefulness on 1538 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 4: the ref and now to me. But again, I'm not 1539 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 4: killing Mike Biltron in part because we haven't made a 1540 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 4: turn as a community in MMA to say we need 1541 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 4: to empower the referees to stop this ship. And I'm 1542 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 4: saying now we need to empower the referees to stop. 1543 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Doing pole rough stop in that ship, local ref in 1544 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: the Potier. But they touched each other in the clinch. 1545 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: He's like, let's stop, let's get back there. 1546 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 4: So I counted there was one time where he stopped 1547 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 4: it after eight seconds. This is also insane. This is 1548 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 4: the other side of it where you're like no, no, no, no, 1549 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 4: no no. 1550 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 7: No. 1551 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 4: One is saying if because I think it was actually, 1552 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 4: you know what, Joe Rogan didn't have his best call, 1553 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 4: but he did make one point that I thought was 1554 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 4: super good about that. He was like, dude, the referee 1555 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 4: is looking at it like it's a boxing contest. If 1556 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 4: you clinch for eight seconds in boxing, for sure they're 1557 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 4: going to separate you. 1558 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right on that. Further on down that card, 1559 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Luke Well, Kevin Holland popped a room against the Leeds 1560 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 1: in and it was kind of just played into like 1561 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 1: the fights we thought we were going to be bangers didn't 1562 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 1: turn out to be, but we did get what we 1563 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: were looking for. I thought, in joking, Buckley versus wonder 1564 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: Boy Thompson, wonder Boy Thompson looks like there's no age 1565 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 1: limit here and he's controlling the action, and then you 1566 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: get that late finish, that late surge, and even before 1567 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Buckley landed that shot, you felt like he was getting 1568 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: closer and closer, and that Thompson was fighting so well 1569 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: but always that close to danger. Well, that danger caught 1570 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: up with him. How big is this actually for Buckley? 1571 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Because this is now six straight wins since the official 1572 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: cut down to Wilterway. 1573 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 4: This is the kind of fight where it's like, can 1574 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 4: he win a title? I don't know, I don't do it, 1575 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 4: can't tell you that one way or the other, but like, 1576 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 4: is he now a verifiable guy who should be fighting 1577 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 4: other top content? No question about it? That's to me 1578 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 4: what this win provided. It was the kind of proof 1579 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 4: that's like, Okay, he has earned the right to fight 1580 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 4: other top guys in this division from here on out. 1581 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,719 Speaker 4: I mean not forever obviously, but for the next little while. 1582 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 4: I want to see him up against number seven, number 1583 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 4: eight ranked guys like that's kind of where we're at, 1584 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 4: maybe even high wonder War ranked I think like six, 1585 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 4: write something like that. 1586 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I think he was a little closer to where was he. 1587 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,560 Speaker 4: Oh look right now, you might be right, But in 1588 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 4: any case, somewhere in that six to ten range I 1589 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 4: think is an appropriate challenge depending on where Thompson was ranked. 1590 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 4: You know what, now I want to see No, now, 1591 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 4: Luke's going to check it out, hold on, because I 1592 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,759 Speaker 4: want to. It's ess central to the point. 1593 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait to find these people that have been 1594 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: arguing you about this. 1595 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 4: So they have they have violate them. Thompson was at nine, 1596 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 4: so yes, that's about right. So but here's who's here's 1597 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 4: who's at five. Five is Colby Covington, Six is Sean Brady, 1598 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 4: Seven is Ian mashade o' gary, eight is Gilbert Burns. 1599 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 4: This is exactly what I mean. He should be fighting 1600 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 4: the Colby's, the Brady's, or the Gary's of the world. 1601 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 4: Next he has. 1602 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: Earned Gary would be something, and. 1603 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 4: It would be it would be very very fine because Buckley, 1604 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 4: by the way, is very athletic, very talented, very strong, 1605 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 4: but still not quite all the way put together. I 1606 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 4: think with his game he's always absolutely get in there. 1607 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 4: But like what I'm saying is is their territory for 1608 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 4: Gary if they fought to exploit that and potentially get 1609 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 4: a win. Absolutely, And in fact, he called out kamar Usman, 1610 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 4: which to me is a very winnable fight for Buckley, 1611 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 4: big name. 1612 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 1: So he got ripped for Colin o' connor. This is 1613 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: a great call. 1614 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 4: This was a much better call out looked that he 1615 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 4: actually learned is like, this is what I mean. Things 1616 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 4: are starting to come together for Buckley in a way 1617 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 4: you cannot ignore. 1618 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: He did go to our three Margarita show. It was 1619 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: after it ended, but he did show up. Okay, he did. 1620 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 4: No I think I saw him there while we were 1621 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 4: still on the air. Someone pointed him out to me, 1622 01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 4: but I was too drunk too. 1623 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were an old manza in that moment. There's 1624 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: no doubt. Before we close on this undercard I did 1625 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 1: want to give props to Carla A Sparza. Do you 1626 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 1: think she got robbed against Tsha Pennington because it looked 1627 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: in TSA's eyes like she thought she was headed toward 1628 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: a defeat after that late rally from the Cookie Monster. 1629 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,600 Speaker 4: I thought it was close. I think I had a 1630 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 4: Sparsa as like slightly ahead. 1631 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 1: Those rounds were close, and that's what I say about it. 1632 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 4: We just said it, if a fight is close, you 1633 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 4: might as well treat it like a coin flip, and 1634 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 4: you cannot. You have to accept that that was I mean, 1635 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna. 1636 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Say it was coin flippy for me, but can you 1637 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: show the video there Luke of her son who was 1638 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: dressed like cookie monsters. It was a nice, holesome moment. 1639 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: To see tears in Rogan's eyes was like, what did 1640 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: you think about this? Because some people were like, yeah, 1641 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: she's a two division champion, but so is paining you? Now, 1642 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 1: why do we get these moments? Come on? Give her 1643 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: the balls. 1644 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 4: Sparsa to me is the fact that she did it 1645 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 4: so far apart is a little bit different. But again, dude, 1646 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 4: like I hate it because there's just so many people 1647 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 4: who hate women because they won't fuck fuck them in MMA. 1648 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, well that's aggressive, but oh. 1649 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 4: It's absolutely true. It's absolutely true. It's absolutely true. It's like, 1650 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, women won't fuck you, but that's a you problem. 1651 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 4: But nevertheless, we're talking about mixed martial arts. But nevertheless, 1652 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 4: like dude, the fact that Panya is a two time 1653 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 4: champ does undercut like it does undercut what that means, 1654 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it just does. 1655 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: As far as it coming back and never giving up 1656 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: and having the run she had that led to the 1657 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: title not her fault that Rose fought weird and now 1658 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: she walks away in her own terms, like I applaud 1659 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 1: her on the way out, and she fought. 1660 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,640 Speaker 4: She had a very good career. She fought fucking hammers. 1661 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 4: She did the whole way through it. 1662 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 1: We gave it to her in that title fight. I 1663 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: thought that was gonna be it. After that she I 1664 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 1: do it. 1665 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 4: That's the kind of loss too, that'd be like that 1666 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 4: would sap your confidence. Yes, but she was a resilient 1667 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 4: she came back. She obviously had some great wins after 1668 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 4: the fact. By the way, one of the women who 1669 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,600 Speaker 4: I think was ahead of her era in terms of 1670 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 4: having good, solid wrestling fundamentals. You didn't see a lot 1671 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 4: of like, you know, bullshit hip tosses from her. You 1672 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 4: saw double legs, like she had good wrestling. I think 1673 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 4: that obviously was why she had such an relative of 1674 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 4: some of her peers. Dude, Carla had a great career, 1675 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 4: make no mistake about it. Was never in any drama 1676 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 4: or any like you know, stupid ass beef. 1677 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 1: And she just gave birth and she was back at it. 1678 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 4: So I have a lot of respect for her career. 1679 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like, oh, two time champ. 1680 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to dismiss that, all. 1681 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: Right, but can we have the strawweights get their moments 1682 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 1: where I come from? But Luke, what do you think 1683 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: about their moments? 1684 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 4: All right? 1685 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Tsha Pennington getting booed by the Salt Lake City crowd 1686 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 1: while shouting out her late grandmother and aunt for dying 1687 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: for breast cancer, like, oh my man. 1688 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 4: The Utah crowd ended up being pretty good in the 1689 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 4: end because when the fight was over, they waited for 1690 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 4: Khalil Rountree to speak and they gave him a like 1691 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 4: in the end, they were better. But they started out 1692 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 4: wooing like fucking low level primates, you know, I mean, look, 1693 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 4: what did you. 1694 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,559 Speaker 1: Have in your cherios this morning? Oh you got up 1695 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: at three thirty? 1696 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,480 Speaker 4: That I did get up a three thirty this morning? Yes, yeah, Hey, listen. 1697 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: You're in a rare mode today. It's great. Hey, let's 1698 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: go to before we go to topic number five. 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It's 1729 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:28,639 Speaker 1: the first four belt undisputed summit in light heavyweight history, 1730 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and it just so happens to feature a pair of unbeaten, 1731 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 1: established in future Hall of Fame champions, both of whom 1732 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: reside in the top five of the poundful pound list. 1733 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Good lord, this is as good as it gets. Ar 1734 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: turb Better Bv versus Dimitri Bevall. Bevall with the BA 1735 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: strap Bitter better Bev excuse me brings the other three. So, 1736 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, this is the big one and I'm fired up, 1737 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: so fire it up. Here we go. I got my 1738 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: place here outside of crowning that first four belt champion 1739 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: here at one seventy five. What do you think is 1740 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,839 Speaker 1: really at stake in this battle of unbeatens come Saturday. 1741 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 4: Oh Jesus, that's a really tough question. I mean, as 1742 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 4: you mentioned, you've got two pounds for pound, guys, this 1743 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 4: is a full on unification right in terms of this 1744 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 4: is every single title at light have aweight one hundred 1745 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,440 Speaker 4: and seventy five pounds. As you mentioned, two undefeated records. 1746 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 4: Again you go through the odds, it was a minus 1747 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 4: or plus one hundred in either direction. Yeah. 1748 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Better bv currently the underdog Undraftkings, which is just wild. 1749 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 1: You've never been in this spot. 1750 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 4: Well, because he is so he was supposed to fight 1751 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 4: earlier this year and then he fell out of that 1752 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 4: contest with a meniscus tear. Yeah, so he had a 1753 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 4: surgery on his knee and he's nearly forty years old. Meanwhile, 1754 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 4: bif All took on a guy I forget his name. 1755 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 4: He was no good and he wiped the floor with him. 1756 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 4: But like I go back to Tank taking the Hector 1757 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 4: Garcia fight before the Ryan Garcia fight, and I think 1758 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 4: that that tune up really helped him. So in the end, 1759 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 4: I understand why the odds are where they are. I 1760 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 4: think it's quite reasonable. I will just say this, this 1761 01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,120 Speaker 4: is one of those fights where Paul Malinaji was talking 1762 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 4: about this, like, if we're going to pay attention to 1763 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 4: all the crap, you have to make time for the best. 1764 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 4: This is the best of what boxing has to offer. 1765 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 4: It is all the titles one face, one man in 1766 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 4: a important weight class. Given who is there, by the way, 1767 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 4: who's like the third or fourth best guy in this division. 1768 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 4: Nobody even cares because it's one in two by a 1769 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 4: million miles. It's arguably the most important fight of the year. 1770 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 4: It's arguably one of the best best fights that can 1771 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 4: be made irrespective of weight class this year or any year, 1772 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 4: frankly in boxing, and it's an important style contrast. It's 1773 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 4: important for either guy's career. I don't know if there's 1774 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 4: a grander narrative, and certainly you can tell. 1775 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that they're both so established as well. 1776 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: It's like maybe Mayweather versus Packiea. They were two established. 1777 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: They were thirty eight and thirty six years old, right, 1778 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: so it's like it was too late. At least we 1779 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 1: still got one versus two pounds for pound. This on 1780 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 1: my list on cbssports dot com is number four better 1781 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 1: BV versus number five Bevil and Luke. I mean better. 1782 01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: BV is twenty in zher with twenty knockouts. Although he 1783 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: hasn't talked about whether this has the potential to be 1784 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 1: his last fight, that hasn't been a piece of conversation. 1785 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if he did knock out Bevall to 1786 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 1: go twenty one to no with twenty one KOs and 1787 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 1: then was like, check, you lator accomplished everything I was 1788 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,919 Speaker 1: here to do. It would be one of those Habib 1789 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: like andre Ward like resumes where it's like, could you 1790 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: have done it any more perfect than that? No, how 1791 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 1: do you put this in historical terms? It's going to 1792 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: be hard to figure out, not that that's necessarily where 1793 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 1: he's headed, but it shows you that they're so far 1794 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 1: established where if they didn't end up fighting each other, 1795 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 1: they'd probably still go in the Hall of Fame. Yet 1796 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: we get to find out the supremacy not just right 1797 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 1: now in the light heavyweight division in the respective eras. 1798 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: But luke the idea that we're already in like this 1799 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: historically awesomely unique pound for pound era, where right now 1800 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 1: you've got three guys with a like legitimate claim right 1801 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 1: in a way, Bud Crawford, Alexander Usik, you can make 1802 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 1: the claim for either three and we have to go. 1803 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: You know what, You're probably right, it's your depindent, it's 1804 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,559 Speaker 1: your opinion. What if the winner here and there's no 1805 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: rematch clause, according to Eddie Hurn and the promoter of Bevall, 1806 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 1: by the way, what if the winner here does it solidly, spectacularly, convincingly, 1807 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 1: how are we not going to put them in consideration 1808 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: for the number one pick pound pound, especially. 1809 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 4: If it's better beev better beev right exactly and he 1810 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,799 Speaker 4: gets to your point, he gets to finish, You're finishing 1811 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 4: off another pound for pound guy to unify. 1812 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 1: It was the fighter of the year two years ago. 1813 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: He ran through Canelo and Zerto Vermera. 1814 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, and to get all the titles in the weight class. 1815 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 4: I mean that is that is such a I mean again, 1816 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 4: no one else on that pound for pound list we'd 1817 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 4: be able to say such a thing Now, great, they 1818 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 4: might have more good wins than what better be Better 1819 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 4: BF has, But this one win in conjunction with all 1820 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 4: of the other stoppages such that that happens, this is 1821 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:49,679 Speaker 4: insanely unique. This is one KO rate through other pound 1822 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 4: for pound guys. 1823 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Holy shit. And if you're talking about like there's no 1824 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 1: rematch clause, you know who knows where the winner would go. 1825 01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 1: But if they're one and two in this division, just 1826 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 1: to remind you even been a Vitaz is number three, 1827 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: David Merrell Junior's number four, Joshua Buwazzi is number five, 1828 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: and Canelo wants the winner if it's bevil. So like, 1829 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: this is not just one fight that we finally got 1830 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 1: and we all swim out to the island and enjoy it. 1831 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: This could you know, trigger and continue a run. Here 1832 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: At one seventy five, let's go to the face off 1833 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 1: from the kickoff introductory press conference and you can finally 1834 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: see them together and look at all of the hardware 1835 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: around them. 1836 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 4: Are we going to talk about Bivol's ex wife? 1837 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Dude, she is just going ham on social media. 1838 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 4: Her accusation Take her for what it's worth. Her accusation 1839 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 4: is that he's a deadbeat dad, yes, and. 1840 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 1: That he like broke her phone and pushed. 1841 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,639 Speaker 4: Her, doesn't pay child support and all kinds of shit. 1842 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: So so she's putting out like his injury history of. 1843 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was this better be of his tight with 1844 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 4: Robson Cadierov. Now he probably has to because he's chuching. 1845 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 4: I know he lives in Canada, but you know he's 1846 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 4: tight with him. So you know that part's not great. 1847 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 4: You know, you don't get it. You don't get a 1848 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 4: lot of heroes in combat sports. But but as a fight, 1849 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 4: as a fight, by the way, I tell you what 1850 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 4: I love, can I tell what I love about this 1851 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 4: fight is again odds are close one versus two all 1852 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 4: the both undefeated time on Fridays. Way, But I also 1853 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 4: love it, which was not exactly what you asked, Like 1854 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 4: what the steaks are. I love the style contrast, Yes, 1855 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 4: bivall master boxer, just phenomenal footwork, phenomenal use of space, 1856 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 4: luid style and keeps good range. And then you have 1857 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 4: betterbev who is a fucking terminator. A terminating by the way, 1858 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 4: by the way, has been dropped before, gotten off the 1859 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 4: canvas and then polished that dude off. 1860 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: He's looked as human. I think as he ever has 1861 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 1: post pandemic because he took two years off for the pandemic. 1862 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: He came back against I think was Adam Denis and 1863 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 1: he didn't look great, but he repaired that in the 1864 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: next few fights. But he's looked a little bit human. 1865 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 1: Whether it was uh, I. 1866 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 4: Didn't think the Yard fight was that bad. 1867 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Yard at times against Calm Smith, even it was 1868 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 1: close before, but he always will outlast you with his 1869 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 1: technique and then put you away with that power. 1870 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 4: Late Chris Aljerry was talking about this. He's like, it's 1871 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 4: I mean, if you had to ask me, like, is 1872 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 4: Bivoll bev All going to win rounds against this guy? 1873 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 4: It seems like inevitable rens. He might win enough of them. 1874 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 4: But he's like, dude, you just look, he said the 1875 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 4: first time he saw him in person, and how every 1876 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 4: like sinew of muscle and tissue just looked primed for fighting. 1877 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 4: And like you ever watch all the kettlebell stuff he 1878 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 4: does with his wrist and hands and everything, and like 1879 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 4: how he does push ups on boards that like. 1880 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, shit, he was saying. 1881 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 4: He's like, dude, twelve rounds, there's a lot of time 1882 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 4: to spend with that guy. To me, the most exciting 1883 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 4: part of this is the best part of that fight 1884 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 4: will be at the end. Yes, and when Better Bev 1885 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 4: is finally in a groove, what is beev All going 1886 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 4: to do then? And the answer is he might. 1887 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 1: Win when the opponent slows down just a bit, he 1888 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,599 Speaker 1: is the parl catches up with them. That's what I's 1889 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Like, is it ideal that this is 1890 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: that this is happening when Better beev is thirty nine? No, 1891 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: it's not ideal. This fight did get pushed off a 1892 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,639 Speaker 1: little bit. You can make the argument that this fight 1893 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 1: does not happen without Turkey Alischkinsaudi Arabia, so we can 1894 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 1: say what we say about them, But this was a 1895 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,879 Speaker 1: fight that Turkey circled early on want to make, committed 1896 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 1: to making. There were injury delays, there was all that 1897 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 1: we're finally getting it. But Luke, I think in recent 1898 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 1: history at very least you know we're still getting a 1899 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 1: better BF that can win this. No question. We're getting 1900 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: him as a slight betting underdog, which is wild. So 1901 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: could not be more fired up for this six pm 1902 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,719 Speaker 1: Eastern time as the expected main event. 1903 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,560 Speaker 4: You tell the folks how the card works. 1904 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the full pay per view is available on the Zone. 1905 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 4: I think it's free now. I'm Dan Rayfield reported over 1906 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,440 Speaker 4: the weekend. So the main event was always free. 1907 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the main event. There was now a contractual tie 1908 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 1: that Bob Aaron got for ESPN Plus to air the 1909 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 1: main event. 1910 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,600 Speaker 4: I think now in the US, I'm not sure this 1911 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 4: is true in that you can anywhere else. I believe 1912 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 4: that now the main card is also free if you're 1913 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 4: a de Zone some decent undercard. 1914 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't have SHIRCKR. Stevenson like an originally planned to 1915 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 1: but cared about that. 1916 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,640 Speaker 4: I guess Cordina really. 1917 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Well, there were things we needed to learn in that fight. 1918 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,680 Speaker 1: It didn't happen, what have you. Whatever. We'll get more 1919 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: into this fight as the week progresses. But get fired 1920 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 1: up if you're if you're the kind of MMA fan 1921 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 1: that does trust to when we tell you about these 1922 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 1: big boxing ones, this is this is one of those. 1923 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 1: And I was going to say, Luke, I think it 1924 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 1: really fits. It's not as create, it's not as commercially 1925 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 1: wanted or or longed for, because look, these guys have 1926 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 1: language barriers. Even though they both have committed to speaking English, 1927 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,880 Speaker 1: and they don't. They are gentlemen and sportsmen. They're not 1928 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 1: out there trying to sell themselves in ways that they're 1929 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 1: going to become household names. But from the standpoint of 1930 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,679 Speaker 1: like critical and stakes, this is up there in my opinion, 1931 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 1: with Mayweather, Pracchiao, andre Ward versus Cove level when they 1932 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 1: were one and two, Usik Fury recently Spence Crawford. I 1933 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,719 Speaker 1: think it's on that level of the steaks, the value 1934 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 1: of the fighters, their critics, their historical value, everything. This is. 1935 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 1: This is a big one, So don't miss that one 1936 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: this week. 1937 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 4: By the way, we're going to do a preview on Friday. Yes, 1938 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,680 Speaker 4: go into your head right now. You have the right 1939 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 4: to change your opinion. Done to your head. Who wins? 1940 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, I had been this is what I love 1941 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: about this fight because so God, I had been Beavall 1942 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 1: for months, and I think I'm back on Artur. 1943 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 4: I just switched. 1944 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,679 Speaker 1: I was on transitioning. 1945 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 4: Let me clear, I want Artur to win because I 1946 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 4: like his style better, even though I really like Bivall style, 1947 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 4: but just just one hundred percent ko rate. I'm never 1948 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 4: gonna cheer against someone w's got one hundred percent KO rate. 1949 01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,360 Speaker 4: But the fact that he is thirty nine coming off 1950 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 4: of knee surgery and he's been inactive, and Beval is 1951 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 4: younger and has been active. It's like, I think, if 1952 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 4: it goes to the scorecards, Bivall will win. I'll say 1953 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 4: that that's a fair assessment. 1954 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 1: But save a little for Friday. 1955 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 4: But I have to say, like, I can't wait to 1956 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,679 Speaker 4: see what rounds nine through twelve. 1957 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna crush a lot of tape this week 1958 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 1: and get fired up for that. Those are your five 1959 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 1: topics of the week. Thank you for ingesting them. But 1960 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: before you see my fecal variety, we have a segment 1961 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: where we answer the questions from you, the donkers. You 1962 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 1: send us questions on social media on Sunday nights at 1963 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: X and Instagram at morning combat is it X is 1964 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,639 Speaker 1: it and we respond to them here and if they're 1965 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 1: not good questions, Luke will definitely make fun of you. 1966 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 1: This one's called DMS from Dogs. 1967 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,679 Speaker 4: By the way, I have to tell you this so somebody, 1968 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,639 Speaker 4: fuck where did I see this? I can't remember. Somebody 1969 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 4: wrote me a note being like I hope you guys 1970 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 4: understand that like donkeys are fucking awesome, and the braying 1971 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 4: is just a communication style of these like very splendid. 1972 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 4: Like they were like not exactly bitter, but they felt 1973 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 4: like they had to correct the record. I want to 1974 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,760 Speaker 4: be clear that like I don't care if donkeys liver 1975 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 4: or die. You know what I'm saying. 1976 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, being bitter and correcting the record. 1977 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: That sounds like Luke Thomas. 1978 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like in this particular case, it's just about 1979 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 4: a subject matter. I just can't yes, I just can't care. Yeah. 1980 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 1: Well, the first donker here, his name, his handle Doukie 1981 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 1: mcpoopy sting. 1982 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 4: I mean, why did we pick this? I mean, who 1983 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 4: picked this fucking ship? 1984 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Alex so by the way, Alex dropping a padata regularly 1985 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: and he's the pronunciation guy. Okay, but listen or is 1986 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,679 Speaker 1: he rolling the R into a D where I'm going? 1987 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 4: Because the way it was explained again by a Brazilian person, 1988 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,680 Speaker 4: the way it was explained to me was there's no 1989 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 4: D in there at all, no nothing. It's but you 1990 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 4: have to flick the tongue on the on the reakreta 1991 01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 4: pareta preta. 1992 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: All right, someone's kind of linguistic of you, Okay, Hey, uh, 1993 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,960 Speaker 1: he wants to know. Is Alex on the mount rushmore 1994 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 1: of the most powerful punchers in m M A history 1995 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 1: That would have to include Mark Hunt, correct, Shane Carwin, Hell, Yeah, 1996 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 1: Derrek Lewis, Dan Henderson with the damn h bond h 1997 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 1: bomb is up there? 1998 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,759 Speaker 4: Uh long Islandluke, come to the microphone, please. Heaviest punchers 1999 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 4: in MMA history. Who do you think I'm going? 2000 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,719 Speaker 3: Smaller weightlasses? He just fought this weekend, John Lenny. 2001 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,639 Speaker 4: Yes, Lineker is just fucking He is such a great 2002 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 4: fit for that four ounce boy TI ship that they 2003 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 4: do sometimes. 2004 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Will did you put Rampage in that or no? 2005 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 4: He was a dynamic puncher, but not one of the 2006 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:43,639 Speaker 4: biggest ones in the history. Chuck, I mean Rampage beat him. Uh, Derek, 2007 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:44,719 Speaker 4: we already added. 2008 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Jessica Androdge. 2009 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 4: On the women's side, yeah, definitely a Liz Carmusch was 2010 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 4: a dynamic puncher for a while. You know, she wasn't Cyborg. 2011 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 1: Yes, thank got it. 2012 01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 4: Okay, there's gonna be one more. We're not thinking that. 2013 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:04,640 Speaker 1: On the men's side, who is just i Oh Melvin manhuff. 2014 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 4: Rumble, rumble, Anthony Johnson, god rip, dynamic puncher. 2015 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,559 Speaker 1: Yes, wow, there you go. There you have it. Okay, 2016 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 1: thank you. 2017 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,599 Speaker 4: Yes, Photon's on that list. 2018 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Nick, so he's on the mounta rushmore officially, is he 2019 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 1: top four power punchs No, might be, dude. He just 2020 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,679 Speaker 1: touches people and they go away. 2021 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,839 Speaker 4: He touched Khalil a lot, like who did Julian Jackson 2022 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 4: beat up? Like Poton beat up Khalil? That they survived, 2023 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 4: You're right, they didn't get to that point like Julian 2024 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 4: Jackson would touch you and it would just you're just done. 2025 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 1: Hey, let's go to ad Levi dot brink. He says, four, 2026 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,799 Speaker 1: I pokes in one groin strike with no official warning. 2027 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 1: I know this has been talked about ad nauseum, but 2028 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't there be an established baseline of an enforcement point? 2029 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: Deduction four should be more than reasonable. We've talked about 2030 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: this before, Luke. I think the answer is one warning 2031 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 1: at the first foul of all fouls, yep, and then 2032 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 1: you take a point from there on that. But you 2033 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: can always argue, what if it's such a light foul, 2034 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: what if it's like a tapping nutshot, and then the 2035 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: next one is like a you know, I poked that 2036 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,679 Speaker 1: wasn't deep, big f and deal. You got to set 2037 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 1: that baseline that you got to control your weapons. You 2038 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: can't be reckless from here on out, or it's a problem. 2039 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 4: I could tolerate a rule that by third you have 2040 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 4: to take a point I could tolerate. 2041 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 1: So you're gonna give him two warning, two strikes, I'm. 2042 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 4: Saying I could tolerate that. Like if they made that 2043 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,679 Speaker 4: the baseline, I wouldn't hate it. But at the same time, 2044 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 4: I feel like the best place would be two. 2045 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,720 Speaker 1: So you get one warning is not even warning for 2046 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,880 Speaker 1: repeated stoppages. 2047 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,520 Speaker 4: And action and not letting Poltyia have time to recover. 2048 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 1: It, like what is happening in his mind? 2049 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 4: Like like you had to fight two opponents that night. 2050 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it was right when like 2051 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Anakin DC did not hold back. They were dunking on 2052 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 1: that guid. 2053 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 4: Which they should have. That was I think it was 2054 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 4: very justified. I mean, listen, sometimes they can like dog 2055 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 4: pile somebody who I don't think deserves it as much, 2056 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:52,880 Speaker 4: and so maybe you can say, should they be dog 2057 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 4: piling anybody? 2058 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,519 Speaker 1: That's maybe somebody should jump in and be like, I'm 2059 01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: sure Keith Peterson doesn't smell like cold cuts and hoots, 2060 01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 1: like at. 2061 01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 4: Least one of the two, right, But what I was 2062 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 4: gonna to say was this was such an egregious case 2063 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 4: it deserved it. Like he was terrible. He should never 2064 01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 4: ref a UFC fight anytime soon. 2065 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 1: Well, we'll have another question here from World's worst hero, 2066 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: who wants to know what was your letter grade A 2067 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 1: through F for UFC three oh seven before Saturday? And 2068 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 1: what is it after? So as a pay per view 2069 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 1: card on paper is from minus, Luke Long, I'll look 2070 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,639 Speaker 1: C minus on paper. 2071 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 7: See, I actually thought it was decent on paper. I'll 2072 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 7: give it a B on paper. I'm giving in a 2073 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,120 Speaker 7: C and execution. 2074 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 4: Dude, what the fuck grade were you giving the Komaine 2075 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 4: pre fight? 2076 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 7: I mean, dude, I've just been like you guys said, 2077 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 7: I'm used to these shitty cards now where I'm like, oh, 2078 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 7: I know all these names. 2079 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Saoul showed up on the main card minute. 2080 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out? 2081 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 1: Did he really? 2082 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:45,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2083 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 4: Hell yeah? 2084 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 3: Gave me a dono too. 2085 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,840 Speaker 1: That's that's that's young guys speak for a hingeob. That's 2086 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:55,720 Speaker 1: what he walked you to your truck, uh, Luke. All 2087 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: the skits to fifty, very minimal. These days on the 2088 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 1: old skit and bits look but post or a card 2089 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 1: look at short of the main event. It sucked right 2090 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:06,679 Speaker 1: short of the main event, and then the main. 2091 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 4: Event was well, the Kevin Hollan fights. 2092 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 1: That's not his fault, right, I'm not saying as people's fault. 2093 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying how it played out. Buckley fight was a 2094 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,720 Speaker 1: good was a good or you know, early moment. 2095 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 4: But the Aldo fight sucked. The Buckley fight sucked, and 2096 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:21,880 Speaker 4: then what was what I was saying, the sorry, the 2097 01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,120 Speaker 4: Aldi fight sucked, the Kevin Holland fight sucked because of 2098 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,479 Speaker 4: the injury, and then what was the opener on that 2099 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,599 Speaker 4: card of the Kid Harrison fight also sucked? 2100 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Kind of sucked. 2101 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I gave that fight I got I thought maybe 2102 01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 4: C plus on paper and ended up being like a 2103 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 4: C in reality because the main event was great, was 2104 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,600 Speaker 4: really good, and then everything else was kind of just 2105 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,800 Speaker 4: either like standard or bad. 2106 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: We have a question from uh oh, yeah, so I'll 2107 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 1: give it a I'll give it a C minus on 2108 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 1: the way out too. Okay, take that looke, take that right, 2109 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: get back okay From at Nate the great looks the 2110 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:56,120 Speaker 1: community rightfully keeps making the claims that Poeton saves fight cards. 2111 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 1: Aside from John Jones and Connor McGregor, who else would 2112 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 1: you say is one of the best card savers for 2113 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: the UFC? Is who has that reputation? 2114 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,640 Speaker 4: Sony did a lot of that. I feel like like. 2115 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 1: A consistent card a card saver at one point. 2116 01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 4: You did two fights back to back in two different weeks. Yep, 2117 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 4: mm hmm. But like who was like a consistent card saver? 2118 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't who knows which star? Volkanovsky is always ready 2119 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 1: to weigh in as a backup, You're always ready to 2120 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,559 Speaker 1: do this thing about card saving. 2121 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it has happened throughout the course of 2122 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,800 Speaker 4: the UFC, but it's more common now right where they 2123 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 4: go to people last minute and like you know, Danny 2124 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 4: Gays in there with like four hours notice. That's a 2125 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 4: relatively new thing in terms of how much you see it. 2126 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,000 Speaker 4: So like it's a little bit harder to compare eras 2127 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,639 Speaker 4: because they just didn't do this like this before. 2128 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 1: I still have a lot of respect to give to 2129 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 1: Anderson Silva for UFC two hundred and another fight with 2130 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,759 Speaker 1: DC didn't end up being awesome to hear the stomach 2131 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 1: kick with the toes and the third, but like the 2132 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,200 Speaker 1: balls on that man not in shape to just get 2133 01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:56,759 Speaker 1: on the plane. 2134 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's weird to call John Jones a card saver. 2135 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 4: I mean he could have saved two. 2136 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like what am I thinking. 2137 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,559 Speaker 4: I could. I don't blame him for not saving the card, 2138 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:10,880 Speaker 4: but like it's just weird to be like why he 2139 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,960 Speaker 4: saves cards? Like, no, the fuck he doesn't? 2140 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Connor. 2141 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,600 Speaker 4: Connor is the best example because he was what he 2142 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 4: saves card that run he was on before he became 2143 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 4: champion where he was like completely fucked up half the time. 2144 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 4: It's it's reminiscent of what Poeton is doing now, very. 2145 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: True in that same type of feel. We have one more, 2146 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 1: I believe one. Look, I haven't pre read it from 2147 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 1: at Elvis f Flexley. Elvis Flexley, who is the best 2148 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 1: fighter turned act? 2149 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 4: Now are we talking pornography or wow? 2150 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: We're no, we're talking traditional because. 2151 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 4: Because I haven't watched enough only fans pornography to really 2152 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:43,120 Speaker 4: judge on. 2153 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,679 Speaker 1: The wrestling side. Despite Dwayne the Rock Johnson's consistent box 2154 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: offic success, Dave Batista is a better act, is it? 2155 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 4: Dave Batista is a much better act? So by the 2156 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 4: way Dave Bautista Washington, DC guy. I don't think he's 2157 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 4: not is he? At one time saw him downtown at 2158 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 4: in Chinatown crossing the street and uh, this was before 2159 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,639 Speaker 4: Guardians of the Galaxy, So this is some some years 2160 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 4: ago and one and two. I didn't know he. I 2161 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 4: was like, why is Baltista in fucking DC? And then 2162 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 4: I looked it up. Sure enough, he's from the area. 2163 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 1: You should get him on your your thing. He was 2164 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 1: on uh he was on MMn censored live one time 2165 01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 1: with us. 2166 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2167 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,320 Speaker 1: He was a nice guy, all right, So who in 2168 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,880 Speaker 1: the fight game now? Because what what's the history here? 2169 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,640 Speaker 1: You have Connor and Roadhouse, You've got Valentina in that 2170 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 1: halle Bury Mma movie. You've got a lot of like 2171 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 1: B level ship like touchy feely. He was in Mister 2172 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:30,760 Speaker 1: Fabers Weed thriller that you. 2173 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,479 Speaker 4: Were also that I got paid nothing for. 2174 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: I've seen Donald Serony in a lot of like very 2175 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: fourth rate h straight to DVD action movie. 2176 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,759 Speaker 4: How about Tito's movie Operation Black Houses, which literally stands 2177 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 4: for Operation Black Operations, So like, whoever fucking named that 2178 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,080 Speaker 4: movie is the dumbest motherfucker right now? 2179 01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:48,360 Speaker 8: Is there? 2180 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,639 Speaker 1: Are we forgetting a rat. 2181 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 4: Randy Cotur he was in all of the Uh. 2182 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,760 Speaker 1: It's Randy Cooter, isn't it Long Island? 2183 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,200 Speaker 3: We're leaving out a Bisping too. 2184 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 4: He was in like Oh, he was in Gang. 2185 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh he actually had You're right, I watched it on 2186 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 1: a plane. He was he actually had a legitimate speaking right. 2187 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 4: Oh. 2188 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 3: And Kamara Usman was in Black Pant. 2189 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 1: That's dude, this you say something publicly? How good? I 2190 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,519 Speaker 1: mean he's an absolute dirty bag. But how good is 2191 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,000 Speaker 1: Long Island Luke for this show? 2192 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 4: I'd say for being high half the time? He does 2193 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:16,639 Speaker 4: a decent job. 2194 01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. A big part of this fan 2195 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: which I need to charge my my my weed fight 2196 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 1: before we leave. He speaking of. Look that'll wrap up 2197 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,320 Speaker 1: our d ms from Donks for the day, for the week. 2198 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,479 Speaker 4: But who's the best professional wrestler turned actor? 2199 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 1: Batista? We just talked about that. Better than Hogan, better 2200 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 1: than see seems better than he should be to. 2201 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,560 Speaker 4: Be fair, Actually gonna say I think Sena might be 2202 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 4: the best pure actor. Did you see what's the show? 2203 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,799 Speaker 4: He you did? He's not the best peacemaker. 2204 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 1: Batista is the best actor. Let's come on, have you. 2205 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,559 Speaker 4: Seen the Peacemaker. I have not seen dude, John Cena Johnson. Okay, 2206 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 4: I'll say this, John Cena is a better comedy actor. 2207 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,200 Speaker 4: Now Bautista is a good comedy actor. And Guardians of 2208 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 4: the Galaxy is very good as like Drax that's his 2209 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 4: character's name. But like John Cena and the Peacemaker, I 2210 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 4: was like, I could believe how good that? 2211 01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:01,680 Speaker 6: You know? 2212 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:01,920 Speaker 7: You know. 2213 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,160 Speaker 4: My wife was also like, who is this guy? I'm like, 2214 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:05,200 Speaker 4: he's a professional wrestler. 2215 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 1: What do you have you ever watched? Like WW has 2216 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,880 Speaker 1: a whole movie studio of those like straight to DVD 2217 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 1: action movies involving like The Miz and Randy Orton and Ship. 2218 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:13,800 Speaker 1: You don't get into the. 2219 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 4: I'd rather get fucked to death by an eight dick Walrus. 2220 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's aggressive. That's that's that. Now, let's close with 2221 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,960 Speaker 1: this segment every Monday, right, I mean, some people would 2222 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,360 Speaker 1: say it's the best segment going in martial arts shows, 2223 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, right, crowned or not? Right? There you go, Hey, 2224 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,600 Speaker 1: the un Crown's coming, Luke, They're coming, They're coming. So 2225 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 1: who's coming this uncrowned movement? Eamhlwanie in the back room? 2226 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,599 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh you mean, they're they're think they're launching soon. 2227 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 1: So good good for that for them. What I do though, 2228 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 1: every Sunday is I go through my ship and find 2229 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 1: the colonels in there for you, right, viral videos, the good, 2230 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,280 Speaker 1: the bad, the other is there not too. 2231 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,280 Speaker 4: They're not super self congratulatory, you know what I mean. 2232 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 4: They really restrain it. 2233 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,920 Speaker 1: They are very restraining on that, the highs and lows, 2234 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 1: all that bs in between. Hey, this is called have 2235 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: you seen this EU? 2236 01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,519 Speaker 4: Hold on now before before you do this Long Island? Luke, 2237 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,479 Speaker 4: you have seen this batch? 2238 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 1: Have you not? 2239 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:10,560 Speaker 4: I have not? 2240 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I like to be surprised with you in 2241 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 3: the moment. 2242 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,400 Speaker 1: He gets such a kick out of your reactions. He 2243 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,320 Speaker 1: told me that that, like he stays virgin. 2244 01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:20,720 Speaker 4: What am I? What am I in for? 2245 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 1: Here? 2246 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 6: She at? 2247 01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 1: Let's go with you FC three oh seven in Salt 2248 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 1: Lake City, Luke, if Team Poeton's breaking out this dance 2249 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,760 Speaker 1: before the fights, you're gonna get knocked out and you're 2250 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,599 Speaker 1: gonna lose. Okay, I mean, I love dude. How good 2251 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: is his personality? Seriously, the character he portrays in MMA, 2252 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, we can get caught up in 2253 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,680 Speaker 1: the Guru versus Nina rivalry and waste a lot of 2254 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 1: hours and time. But this guy's the best personality in MMA, 2255 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,240 Speaker 1: which is weird because. 2256 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,640 Speaker 4: He doesn't have super like in your face personality at all. 2257 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,599 Speaker 1: He's like opposite charisma. He gets his spots. He's hilarious. 2258 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 1: Look I mean, look at this dance, look at this stuff. 2259 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 4: He he he is happy at all the right times. 2260 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 4: He is he is, folks, guess all the right he 2261 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 4: just seems to know what the moment is and then 2262 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 4: rides it perfectly. 2263 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: You know, Luke, I don't want to be the person 2264 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,439 Speaker 1: on the show that that the pot that calls the 2265 01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,519 Speaker 1: kettle high. But let's go to this Connor McGregor tweet 2266 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,840 Speaker 1: that was deleted after after Kevin Holland was unable to 2267 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,599 Speaker 1: continue with what we think was a broken didn't even 2268 01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,200 Speaker 1: fucking try. Nah, that is ridiculous. Go out again and 2269 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,040 Speaker 1: see how it is. If it folds up again, then 2270 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 1: you end it with a towel. Nah, that's not it 2271 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,680 Speaker 1: for me, folks. Holland is a solid veteran. He well 2272 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,560 Speaker 1: should have went out and gave it a shot and 2273 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 1: see how he was wrong. Move. This is the same 2274 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: McGregor who pulled out of International Fight Week in June 2275 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:34,200 Speaker 1: with a broken tone. 2276 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Chutzpo. 2277 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 1: You know htzpo is defined No, I don't. 2278 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 4: It's uh. It's defined as a child killing their parents 2279 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 4: and then begging for mercy because they're an orphan that 2280 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,719 Speaker 4: got dark. Luke, that's that's hutzbah. 2281 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of hutzpot in that guy right there. 2282 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 1: Let's go to Dana responding to the report of doctors 2283 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,080 Speaker 1: finding that power slap is about ninety percent and causing 2284 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 1: brain injuries or something like that. 2285 01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,599 Speaker 4: It's I think eighty. But yeah. 2286 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,400 Speaker 8: There was also a power slap study that came out 2287 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:08,800 Speaker 8: by a medical journal. Doctors watched the first episode of 2288 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 8: Power Slab and determined from just watching the first episode 2289 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 8: that there was concussions. 2290 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 2: Sounds legit. I'm wondering at what kind of you watched 2291 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,519 Speaker 2: one episode of the show, know nothing about medicals or 2292 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,599 Speaker 2: what we do or any of the studies we've done. 2293 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,479 Speaker 2: Sounds like these typical doctors that look for attention. 2294 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 1: To me, that's what I thought. Ye, thank you you 2295 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: have it. 2296 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 4: What studies have they done? What studies have they done? 2297 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,559 Speaker 4: Am I not aware of something that they don't. 2298 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,200 Speaker 1: Wish they would take all those resources and put it 2299 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 1: into ZUFA boxing and let's go full let's go full 2300 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 1: speed ahead. 2301 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 4: It's like these doctors and their agenda trying to protect 2302 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 4: your brain. 2303 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,680 Speaker 1: This is nothing, is a dead end road. Let's just 2304 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 1: let's just close shop. 2305 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,599 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it one more time. Nobody actually likes 2306 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 4: power slap. Dana likes it because he thinks he can 2307 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,200 Speaker 4: probably make money from it, and the people who commentate 2308 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 4: it and whatnot, they do it because they're trying to 2309 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,680 Speaker 4: actually advance their UFC careers. And this is a you're 2310 01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,800 Speaker 4: talking about the count Well he's not Dan Helly, who 2311 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,559 Speaker 4: I like a lot, does it too. I mean Dan's 2312 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 4: the man shouting Helly's in our next clip. Okay, But 2313 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 4: like you know, they don't do it because they think 2314 01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,800 Speaker 4: power Slap's awesome. They do it because they have to 2315 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:08,840 Speaker 4: declaim the corporate ladder. 2316 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Right. Helly also the voice of DWCS. He does a 2317 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: great job. 2318 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 4: So Dan Helly DC guy. 2319 01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:14,599 Speaker 1: Wow, big big weekend for DC. 2320 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 4: Here. 2321 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 1: Here's Dan Helly on the way in show Luke, I'm 2322 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,960 Speaker 1: not going to show the clip of Chris Widman explaining 2323 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 1: how on his first day, ship in his girlfriend's garbage 2324 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 1: can because she was showering and then made a big mess. 2325 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 4: I find that the less I learned about the lives 2326 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 4: of fighters, the more I enjoy the sun. 2327 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to play that clip, but let's play this clip. 2328 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,360 Speaker 1: In reaction to the new name of the Utah Professional 2329 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 1: Hockey team. 2330 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,680 Speaker 4: What's your team name? 2331 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 1: Please tell me it's better than elk No. I feel 2332 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 1: like it's pretty good. 2333 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,360 Speaker 9: I didn't go far for inspiration. 2334 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 6: I was in the space I was in, and I 2335 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,240 Speaker 6: looked around me, and I felt the moment, and I said, 2336 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:51,599 Speaker 6: the Utah Apex, the Utah Apex living but like it's 2337 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 6: like a mountain. It's like the Top you were the Apex? 2338 01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 4: Are they going to Are they gonna play the Summit? Wait? 2339 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:02,960 Speaker 1: What did he say? 2340 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,519 Speaker 4: I'm sorry I talked over it like an asshole. 2341 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: It's like the Top you were the Apex? Are they gonna? 2342 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,719 Speaker 4: Are they gonna play in front of five hundred people 2343 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:10,080 Speaker 4: at most? 2344 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,040 Speaker 1: Dan Helly is awesome? Soko was actually like, are you 2345 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna shoot on the Apex? So good on the air, 2346 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: Well well done, Dan Helly, tip of the cap. Let's 2347 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 1: keep it going here? Where are we at here? It's 2348 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 1: time for MMA fighters in the wild, Luke. You know 2349 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 1: I get fired up to see if what if? What 2350 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 1: if they are like six Highlight? What if they're like 2351 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 1: one of us? Luke, Let's go to the highlight just 2352 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 1: to get che Wow, look at that long Luke, that's 2353 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 1: about to blast off, right, Bro, he's about to get 2354 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,960 Speaker 1: booted and zoted up in suit riot grow back an 2355 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 1: ounce of wow. 2356 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 4: Okay, you don't have to have all the weed, Justine. 2357 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 4: You can share some with the rest of the planet Earth. 2358 01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 1: I really like Justin Gatche like I wouldn't go with 2359 01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,880 Speaker 1: him to katirrov Sun's party, and I like him outside. 2360 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 4: I would also skip that party, all right. 2361 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 1: Also in the wild, is Morob going back to Georgia, Luke, 2362 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,679 Speaker 1: your home state only this is the country in Asia, 2363 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,760 Speaker 1: And you know I get fired up for homecomings. First 2364 01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 1: of all, I love Morob. Second of all, look at 2365 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,760 Speaker 1: the humanity around him as this little man celebrates. 2366 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 4: He and by the way back in Utah for the fights. Yeah, 2367 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 4: he is at all the fights. 2368 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I think he. I think he's on like a 2369 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,599 Speaker 1: full time travel salary like Nina Drama. 2370 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 4: Just go everywhere right, A lot of Nina comments today. 2371 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 1: It's a big weekend for on the Young, on the socials. 2372 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 4: There I mercifully missed every bit of it. 2373 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Good for you, good for you. I hope I missed 2374 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,240 Speaker 1: the future. That shout out to Marob Morob's name, though 2375 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,760 Speaker 1: not easy for everyone to say, as we found out 2376 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,480 Speaker 1: from Teddy Allis's podcast. 2377 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 11: You know, O'Malley got set back in with Mamadorff. Great, 2378 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,600 Speaker 11: great fight by Mama Doff, tremendous. 2379 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 4: So wait a second, did Sean Mally fight Islam Mama Dog? 2380 01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, It's like mak a job. That is a wait, 2381 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,080 Speaker 1: who we're talking about? Oh, Morob davalis Veli? 2382 01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 4: That guy, isn't it, I'll say? But in fairness, isn't 2383 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 4: it Dawallash Wheeley? 2384 01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 1: Yes it is? Okay, all right, let's go over to 2385 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 1: your hat of the week, Luke of I don't know 2386 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,720 Speaker 1: who your parents voted for in the sixties, but I 2387 01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,040 Speaker 1: wonder if it was that ticket. Luke, remember what was 2388 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,480 Speaker 1: called Eating. 2389 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 4: Bush sixty nine? This guy, I guarantee you, is the 2390 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:24,879 Speaker 4: worst first date in the country. 2391 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, definitely, big week for Dana White Contender series. 2392 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,840 Speaker 1: Luke here is doc you know about the Torres finny story. 2393 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, third times a try for Contender series. 2394 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 1: Third time turned out to be the try, as Dana 2395 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,639 Speaker 1: finally liked what he saw. Could smell what Thereza's cooking? 2396 01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 4: First first team all titties? 2397 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,960 Speaker 1: Ye yes him a big ee shout out to the 2398 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,320 Speaker 1: first team chesticles right there. Dana also had a Peter 2399 01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 1: Brady moment during the show, What can't you do? 2400 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 4: Kid? 2401 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited to find out. 2402 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,479 Speaker 4: Welcome to the ufc keby Smith. 2403 01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:02,280 Speaker 1: When it's time, dude, guys to the UFA Luke. Almost 2404 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: time for Halloween, but I've already found my costume for 2405 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,479 Speaker 1: twenty four I'm a genie in a bottle. Baby. 2406 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,200 Speaker 4: Do you okay now that your kids are in high 2407 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,479 Speaker 4: school and nothing is cool anymore? 2408 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:14,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 2409 01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,879 Speaker 4: What do you guys do on Halloween? 2410 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I work the door the kids go wherever they go. 2411 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: Barely anybody comes to our door, and it's kind of okay. 2412 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 1: So I live. My wife keeps the dogs from mauling on. 2413 01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,480 Speaker 4: I live in a place where I get absolutely avalanches 2414 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,679 Speaker 4: of children, and I'm in the thick of it. Because 2415 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 4: Tuckster is going as Princess Peach this year. 2416 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:35,920 Speaker 1: Should work out shirtless in your front yard during that. 2417 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:40,200 Speaker 4: I just might. And she's going as Princess Peach. I 2418 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,679 Speaker 4: told her I wanted to go as Chewbacca. She didn't 2419 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:44,360 Speaker 4: like that idea. 2420 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,719 Speaker 1: Why BEA's loyal as shit? 2421 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 4: Chewbacca's scary to her? Yes, watched we saw a seven 2422 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:52,960 Speaker 4: foot or we went to one of those comic cons. 2423 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,080 Speaker 4: I came through the city. It's not like the real one. 2424 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,519 Speaker 4: They call it awesome con. And there was a guy 2425 01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,360 Speaker 4: like in a full sized Chewbacca cost him as a 2426 01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:03,320 Speaker 4: well over seven feet and I said to Tuch Stars, 2427 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 4: like Tuchstar, it's Chewbacca. And then she screamed and cried, 2428 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,439 Speaker 4: oh wow because he was so big. Yeah, and he 2429 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:09,760 Speaker 4: was like you all that shit. 2430 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,519 Speaker 1: They only follow up I could come up with is 2431 01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:18,599 Speaker 1: what's her favorite expired food? I don't know, Luke. I've 2432 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,120 Speaker 1: got your t shirt of the week right here if 2433 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 1: you're looking to get a double XL. 2434 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 4: I'm fat because every time I fuck your dad, he 2435 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:30,559 Speaker 4: pours bacon grease down my throat. Well that's a completely uh, 2436 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 4: that's just a heinous bitch. 2437 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:33,160 Speaker 6: I know. 2438 01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,559 Speaker 1: We transitioned out of that. But this week in boxing, 2439 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,519 Speaker 1: Luke nick Ball successfully defended his featherweight title by knocking 2440 01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,519 Speaker 1: veteran Ronnie Rios through the ropes. 2441 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,560 Speaker 4: Look at these uppercuts, Jesus. 2442 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,080 Speaker 1: Nick Ball's a little pocket rocket, Luke, look at. 2443 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:52,720 Speaker 4: Him, He's got some balls. Take that, OAF, Get the 2444 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 4: fuck about my ring Ho and Luke. 2445 01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, the only name at middleweight at the moment 2446 01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 1: is janebec I always put your last name Alm Canoe. Yeah, 2447 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to say either. But he's a beast dude. 2448 01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 1: He beat the bags off of Andre Mihailovich and did 2449 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,080 Speaker 1: this little like spin around while stalking him to defend 2450 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 1: his middleweight titles. I think only one of his two 2451 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:10,920 Speaker 1: belts are on the line. 2452 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 4: Due to do to shit, and he is just fucking 2453 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,320 Speaker 4: styling on this guy. 2454 01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:20,000 Speaker 1: Dead division. But you'll love to see this Kazakh thunder 2455 01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 1: right here. 2456 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what if you're one of those guys 2457 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:24,680 Speaker 4: in a dead division. I like what he did when 2458 01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,680 Speaker 4: he fought like on Thursday or Friday, whatever it was, 2459 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,120 Speaker 4: or you know there's no competition on Saturday, an do 2460 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:29,800 Speaker 4: it that shit. 2461 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to one championship. The afore mentioned John Lenneker 2462 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,200 Speaker 1: throws bombs, and he threw bombs again against Balco. 2463 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:41,000 Speaker 4: Here do he just there's nothing technical about his punching. 2464 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 4: It's just wide as shit, but it's so heavy. 2465 01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I love that he keeps the like 2466 01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 1: hair around his head so you can see the bald spot. 2467 01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 1: He's just a bad asshole and dude, he just throws 2468 01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 1: absolute grenades. Look, let's look at the weather plans for 2469 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,400 Speaker 1: the week. Let's see if they coincide with your recreational plans. 2470 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,000 Speaker 4: Dude, that's I don't need that to be my weekend plans. 2471 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:05,679 Speaker 4: That's gonna be my plans in about thirty minutes. 2472 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my life plan, Thank you very much. Let's 2473 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,519 Speaker 1: go to driveway basketball. You ever imitate your heroes through 2474 01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: the years on the on the air, of course, Like 2475 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,439 Speaker 1: here's Larry Bird, Here's Dominique, let's watch Kimba rest in Peace. Yeah, 2476 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:16,640 Speaker 1: Larry Bird. 2477 01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 3: Jordan hit the Second Tower. 2478 01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 1: Very relatable video there, Luke, we've all been through that. Wow. 2479 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,560 Speaker 4: Again, I didn't know nine to eleven humor was the 2480 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 4: thing until I met you. 2481 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,320 Speaker 1: There we go, time for a dance break, Luke. You 2482 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 1: ever got over to somebody's house for a you know, 2483 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 1: outdoor barbecue and they're. 2484 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,599 Speaker 4: Line dancing, and yes, I've been to my in law's 2485 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 4: place before. 2486 01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,720 Speaker 1: Okay, but did this ever happen at your in law's place, Luke? Oh? 2487 01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 1: For okay, we're staying there just you know, everyone's just 2488 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:55,479 Speaker 1: having a moment. 2489 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 4: Everyone's okay, right, Oh. 2490 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh shit, raise the roof reversed. Wow that is something 2491 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: right there? Yeah, okay, Luke. John Annick got into a 2492 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,840 Speaker 1: fistfight with his twin brother on their podcast. 2493 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 4: That's What's This? 2494 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 1: And So Scott Hastings asked, who's the first to throw 2495 01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:18,560 Speaker 1: a jab in a squabble? John or Jay? Is that 2496 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 1: your answer? 2497 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:19,560 Speaker 7: Me? 2498 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,599 Speaker 1: You know, Scott, I love you, Scott, But I mean 2499 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,120 Speaker 1: that's on you a little bit, Scotty. That's is that 2500 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:25,479 Speaker 1: what you know? 2501 01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,840 Speaker 4: I just be honest. John Annick's brother sounds like John 2502 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,560 Speaker 4: Annick after inhaling a helium balloon. 2503 01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 1: Pretty much pretty much? Right? Are you and your brother 2504 01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,680 Speaker 1: still like that today? Uh? 2505 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,200 Speaker 4: No, I think if I touched him he'd have a meltdown. 2506 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,080 Speaker 1: Oh you don't like double leg hum? 2507 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,040 Speaker 4: Just to prove your you think I'm salty and ornery, 2508 01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 4: I mean you don't. I'm like, dude, I'm fucking happy, 2509 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,519 Speaker 4: go lucky. Compared to the other men in my family. 2510 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 1: Check out this high school football referee. Luke said, you know, 2511 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,160 Speaker 1: if you can be discreet, you can do whatever you 2512 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 1: want out of Oh yeah, what dude, what the fuck 2513 01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,840 Speaker 1: is that? I mean, there's kids around there, sir, I mean, 2514 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:06,120 Speaker 1: come on there you go. Hey, look, you know we 2515 01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:06,799 Speaker 1: haven't played. 2516 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,240 Speaker 4: In a while. High school football in the South is different. 2517 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,360 Speaker 4: Oh different. 2518 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,560 Speaker 1: We haven't played rate that tat Can I get a 2519 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 1: score one to ten on these? 2520 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:18,760 Speaker 4: All right? Let's see a lot of horror on that 2521 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,400 Speaker 4: back Again, I wouldn't really want it. But if we're 2522 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:31,720 Speaker 4: just talking about tattoo quality, yes, the eight. 2523 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay, the number to beat here is eight. Let's see 2524 01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,000 Speaker 1: who can top it. Let's keep it going. A lot 2525 01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,840 Speaker 1: of aerial Hawane fans out there, Luke. This man got 2526 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,719 Speaker 1: the uncrowned logo tatt. 2527 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,599 Speaker 4: That's just a zero? Be serious, all right? 2528 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,120 Speaker 1: You ever hear of a power rangers? 2529 01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 8: Luke? 2530 01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 4: Of course? 2531 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:52,960 Speaker 1: What about powder rangers? Give it a solid six? Okay, 2532 01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,680 Speaker 1: there you go, And I got a phone related tatt here. 2533 01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what this looks like. Oh there 2534 01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,479 Speaker 1: you go. Look that's exactly what he was looking for. 2535 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,120 Speaker 1: That picture, right, there, that's a two. Yes, and uh, 2536 01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,720 Speaker 1: you know I like glizzies. But first let's check out 2537 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,479 Speaker 1: these many glizzies here. Look, what do you think about 2538 01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:07,760 Speaker 1: this tat? 2539 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:16,760 Speaker 4: Okay? Is that even legal to show? Is that even 2540 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 4: legal to show? 2541 01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 1: Uh? Speaking of the double glizzies, I would consider this tat. 2542 01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,600 Speaker 1: Look artistically, what are you going to rate? This? 2543 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:24,280 Speaker 4: Not that bad? 2544 01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 6: Right? 2545 01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,880 Speaker 4: So as a tattoo, that's a well done tattoo, yes, 2546 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,599 Speaker 4: but as a art concept it's a negative eight. 2547 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 1: Allien. I think we got one more for you? Oh 2548 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,800 Speaker 1: popcorn related yes, okay. 2549 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 4: Once again as a tattoo, that's a well done tattoo, 2550 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,599 Speaker 4: all right, but that's disturbing. I'll give that a four. 2551 01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, Let's see some malk here, got a bag 2552 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:54,800 Speaker 1: of milk? 2553 01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,000 Speaker 4: What the fuck are you doing that to grandpa? 2554 01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,519 Speaker 1: For what you do? Like elder abuse, and that was 2555 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: very abusive. 2556 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 4: Look at those. 2557 01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,800 Speaker 1: Look you have barbers. Ever get the con of shame? 2558 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,439 Speaker 1: After ay a step back? How about you? You ever 2559 01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:12,800 Speaker 1: get it? I don't lick my ball, so no, it's 2560 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,080 Speaker 1: about time we put the cone of shame where it 2561 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:17,760 Speaker 1: belongs on you, Luke on the road. You know what 2562 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh, that's awesome. 2563 01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one got me. That was good. 2564 01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 1: You do you enjoy in this segment when white people 2565 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:24,680 Speaker 1: get hurt? 2566 01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:24,840 Speaker 6: Right? 2567 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Hailey back again. 2568 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 6: We are now on the river, but I'm gonna go 2569 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 6: off the river and see what everybody around the shop 2570 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:33,600 Speaker 6: is up to. 2571 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:44,719 Speaker 4: Let's go check it out. Oh sorry, have a drink, bitch. 2572 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,960 Speaker 1: We got one more for you. Remember I told you 2573 01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 1: I was forklift certified back in two thousand and five. 2574 01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:51,240 Speaker 4: Because I mean you dated fed girls. 2575 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:58,719 Speaker 1: Oh shit, Oh my god, that's You're ko of the week, Luke, dude. 2576 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:03,400 Speaker 4: You our next video is just some bitch getting to capitated. 2577 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,240 Speaker 1: What there's your ship? I hope you enjoyed it. Wow, 2578 01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 1: we came in under two hours. I don't think we'd 2579 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:09,519 Speaker 1: land this plane. 2580 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you rushed through the topics. 2581 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2582 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,200 Speaker 4: How was your weekend? And what did you do? I 2583 01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 4: besides watch the fights. 2584 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,080 Speaker 1: I went for a bunch of walks and hikes. I'm 2585 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,200 Speaker 1: becoming that old person that realizes if I walk four 2586 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,880 Speaker 1: to five miles a day with my wife and dogs, 2587 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,559 Speaker 1: then you know, improve the quality of my life. 2588 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:28,840 Speaker 4: What if it's a lot of miles, you don't really 2589 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 4: need to walk that much? 2590 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:31,880 Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. Okay, that's what I did with 2591 01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 1: my weekend. You know, got a little take out, little 2592 01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:36,200 Speaker 1: Tai food, you know, we got Thai food. Yeah yeah, 2593 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 1: and watched the fights. You know. I'm a big, big 2594 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,160 Speaker 1: pad tie guy, basic ship. 2595 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:40,240 Speaker 6: You know. 2596 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what about yourself? Luke takes to the splash Pat. 2597 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,000 Speaker 4: No, it's too cold for that. But we did Halloween. 2598 01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,960 Speaker 4: We decorated the house on the outside, the so what. 2599 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,599 Speaker 1: Type of like if you're if you're doing giant spiders, 2600 01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:54,240 Speaker 1: you're a weirdo. 2601 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,840 Speaker 4: We put spider webs on the front fence and then 2602 01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,560 Speaker 4: these little spiders that just kind of attached to it 2603 01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:00,240 Speaker 4: wherever you want. 2604 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,040 Speaker 1: And then spiders are awful. 2605 01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,200 Speaker 4: Luke, Uh, well, it's Halloween. I mean, ghosts are all 2606 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,800 Speaker 4: the pumpkins. We put two skulls that glow in the dark, 2607 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,400 Speaker 4: and the front steps we put we did some witches 2608 01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,360 Speaker 4: hanging up and some ghosts and adached stuff to the 2609 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 4: bird feeder. I'm a bird guy. I've become. This is 2610 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,240 Speaker 4: all like real nerdy with like the book where you 2611 01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 4: don't I haven't got I have a book, I haven't 2612 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:22,720 Speaker 4: I don't really use it. I just kind of sit 2613 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:23,800 Speaker 4: in my yard and watch birds. 2614 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, you are full of unpredictable turns, not just 2615 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,880 Speaker 1: your love of like abortion, death rock, yeah, which is 2616 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:30,599 Speaker 1: just wild. 2617 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a bird guy. I have turned into a 2618 01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:36,880 Speaker 4: bird guy. I have absolutely turned into a bird guy. 2619 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,519 Speaker 4: A cardinal. I was sitting in the front yard and 2620 01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,560 Speaker 4: a cardinal landed in the bird feeder, which is like 2621 01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 4: for me to like this camera, And it was the 2622 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,120 Speaker 4: happiest I was all day watching this cardinal eat at 2623 01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 4: the bird feeder. Yeah, I'm pathetic, but I know that 2624 01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:51,200 Speaker 4: about myself and I accept. 2625 01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,840 Speaker 1: Okay. I wanted to remind the great people that this 2626 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,840 Speaker 1: Morning Combat train. We'll have another stop on the tour 2627 01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 1: this week, and that is Friday, Friday, eleven a Eastern. 2628 01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 4: Where's the horn face? 2629 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:06,080 Speaker 1: There we go on the Morning Combat YouTube channel. We 2630 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,120 Speaker 1: will be back from home. This is the beginning every 2631 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,720 Speaker 1: Monday here in studio metal Ark and Manhattan. Every Now, 2632 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:12,360 Speaker 1: let's let's. 2633 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,080 Speaker 4: Remind folks we can be reached that Morning Combat at 2634 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,519 Speaker 4: gmail dot com, that website, that email address is active. 2635 01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,400 Speaker 4: There's been some questions that I've gotten from the fans, 2636 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 4: being like, hey, are you going to bring back some 2637 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,639 Speaker 4: of the old features for Friday show. So fan subs 2638 01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,080 Speaker 4: is a very polarized So glad you brought that up. 2639 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 4: People don't really want fan subs that much. 2640 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,200 Speaker 1: I still argue and I do to you over text 2641 01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,800 Speaker 1: that I think fan subs is the greatest connection to community, 2642 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,480 Speaker 1: and I'm proud of the community we built with this show. 2643 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,840 Speaker 1: You have to deal with weird people in tight tank 2644 01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,920 Speaker 1: and tight T shirts to show that their love for 2645 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,520 Speaker 1: the show. Yes, but we get artwork, we get skits 2646 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,360 Speaker 1: and bits, we get love. 2647 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 4: Why can't we do Why can't we keep that segment? 2648 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,000 Speaker 1: But doesn't have to be weekly if we don't have 2649 01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:57,360 Speaker 1: the cast. 2650 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,320 Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking is I'm more like monthly, I'm. 2651 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:00,880 Speaker 1: A bi weekly. 2652 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:02,040 Speaker 4: That's a lot. 2653 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:04,600 Speaker 1: What do you think? But it'll be dictated by the 2654 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: content level. 2655 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,640 Speaker 7: I was just going to say what PC just said. 2656 01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 7: Depending on how much we get and the quality of it, 2657 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,360 Speaker 7: we'll just do it as often as we have a 2658 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 7: good batch. 2659 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,080 Speaker 4: What what do you have a favorite segment? 2660 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:16,200 Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit? 2661 01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean, okay, well he's barely here, all right, Okay? 2662 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,160 Speaker 1: Bet is also like up there because because. 2663 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,200 Speaker 4: You are, you're gonna you're gonna trade away your mortgage. 2664 01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,400 Speaker 1: For jokes on you. 2665 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 4: You think I have a mortgage? 2666 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,400 Speaker 1: He drives like an eighty nine citation? Right, was that 2667 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:32,960 Speaker 1: what you drive? 2668 01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:33,920 Speaker 4: Twenty ten? 2669 01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:34,600 Speaker 1: We talked about. 2670 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that already twenty fifteen. I've barely got any miles 2671 01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,800 Speaker 4: on the fucking thing. Yeah, my wife wants a new car. 2672 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,080 Speaker 4: But I don't know what the point is. I'm like, 2673 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,720 Speaker 4: why what cars are expensive? And this thing has forty 2674 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,200 Speaker 4: two thousand miles and it's twenty fifteen. 2675 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,160 Speaker 1: Eller, huh, stay, I did I did the castle. 2676 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,920 Speaker 4: We paid it off. I did my mortgage. Five months left, 2677 01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,080 Speaker 4: all right, five months left on my mortgage. 2678 01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,760 Speaker 1: That's well done. That is a feeling that, look, I'm here. 2679 01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm in life for you to have feelings that make 2680 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:03,280 Speaker 1: you feel happy. Apparently birds provide that. 2681 01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that doesn't mean this. 2682 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't mean that. 2683 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:08,720 Speaker 4: But birds, bro I went to that. I went to 2684 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,160 Speaker 4: the Aviary in Columbia, the National Aviary of columb It 2685 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:11,760 Speaker 4: blew me away. 2686 01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:13,320 Speaker 1: I guess there's worse things. You could become, Like an 2687 01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 1: opera guy, I'd make fun of you, or like, if 2688 01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:15,720 Speaker 1: you become. 2689 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,200 Speaker 4: I'm not an opera guy, no, or a dance guy. 2690 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,480 Speaker 4: I'm not a dance guy. I can't just want to dance, No, 2691 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:22,560 Speaker 4: I want to look at birds. 2692 01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,840 Speaker 1: All right, that's weird. Well, I guess that's a show. 2693 01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:27,520 Speaker 1: If you want to wear this great merch that we've 2694 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,840 Speaker 1: got going on, please head on over to Morningcombat dot 2695 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,040 Speaker 1: store and if you want even ten percent off the price, 2696 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,920 Speaker 1: use our code live ten l I V one zero. 2697 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know who's working the store anymore, but 2698 01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:41,000 Speaker 1: somebody will say it. 2699 01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 4: In theory, it's still operational. 2700 01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in theory, but changes are coming, things are happening. 2701 01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,960 Speaker 1: Would you would argue, you would go as far as 2702 01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:50,680 Speaker 1: arguing that things are happening. 2703 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,920 Speaker 4: Behind Again, my rule has been there's nothing to say 2704 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,280 Speaker 4: until there's actually something to say. 2705 01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,400 Speaker 1: And you're like, don't show me the baby talk, don't 2706 01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:00,880 Speaker 1: tell me about their movement, show me the head. You're 2707 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:01,520 Speaker 1: a big head guy. 2708 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:06,160 Speaker 4: Uh, depends who's given it, depends who's given it. But yes, 2709 01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:07,800 Speaker 4: in general I find it preferable. 2710 01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that is the show for this week. 2711 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure they can check us out this week on 2712 01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,400 Speaker 1: our own solo channels at Luke Thomas Right. 2713 01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,000 Speaker 4: YouTube dot com, Slash Luke Thomas YouTube dot com. Slash 2714 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:18,880 Speaker 4: is it the Brian I think it is. 2715 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it is. 2716 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:22,720 Speaker 4: Did you make it longer? It's not long enough. 2717 01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably be longer and less original, but that's 2718 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,080 Speaker 1: what we do here. Shout out to Long Island, Luke 2719 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 1: nosda government name. 2720 01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,160 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for putting that out there. 2721 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, people get mad at me, people get sore at me. 2722 01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 1: Manich is big on that. Don't don't be telling the 2723 01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:38,160 Speaker 1: people my real name. 2724 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:40,280 Speaker 4: It's a good idea, not too Yeah. 2725 01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,120 Speaker 1: All right, well that's all we got for this week. 2726 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in and watching it. 2727 01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:46,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday. Check us out on our 2728 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,920 Speaker 1: solo tubes there if you want to join my Only 2729 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,320 Speaker 1: Pipes Club. I'm still figuring it out, but you know, 2730 01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,720 Speaker 1: one of these days, right, one of these days finally, well, 2731 01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,720 Speaker 1: you guys will get your chance to check that out 2732 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 1: and and see what I got going on my ass 2733 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,280 Speaker 1: itches weir, Yeah, that's weird, all right for Luke Thomas, 2734 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm BC. Take care of your head. Okay, you got this. 2735 01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:07,560 Speaker 1: You're going to get through this. We love you, and 2736 01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:08,160 Speaker 1: we're out of here.