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Speaker 1: Restling fans, William Patrick Corgan here at the National Resting Alliance.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Battle Crown. Thanks so much for checking

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Speaker 4: out this episode today with Billy Corgan, President of the NWA.

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Speaker 4: Billy Corgan. What's up you guys. Welcome back to another

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Speaker 4: episode of the Battleground Podcast. Today is an exciting day

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Speaker 4: because we are bringing back a guest on the show.

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Speaker 4: But before we bring that guest on, let me bring

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Speaker 4: my co host Eli on. Look at that Eli, what's

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Speaker 4: up buddy?

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Speaker 5: Well, we're having some technical difficulties, but we're we're hanging

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Speaker 5: in there.

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Speaker 3: We're hanging in there.

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Speaker 4: And if you're watching this on YouTube right now, as

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Speaker 4: you can see on Eli's you kind of have a

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Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and bring in our guests.

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Speaker 4: The President of the NWA, mister Billy Corgan, is on

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Speaker 4: the show. Billy, thanks for being here with us, man,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, gentlemen. We are super excited. Last time we

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Speaker 4: of right as the NWA resurgence was happening. You had

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Speaker 4: the whole Ten Pounds of Gold thing was happening, which

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Speaker 4: was an amazing series by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it pretty much kicked us off in

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Speaker 1: terms of the new era of the NWA. So it's

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Speaker 4: Process for sure, and we were big fans of the

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, very much. Yeah. I I was trying to

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Speaker 1: I think for me it was more whether or not

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Speaker 1: Well, my initial reaction was I didn't want to run

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Speaker 1: Didn't necessarily want to be in a situation where I

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Speaker 5: the passing of Josephus. He was a friend of ours.

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Speaker 5: We actually met him the day we met you. He

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Speaker 1: you know this close friend of mine has just passed away.

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Speaker 1: You know, is this the right thing to do? Not

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Speaker 5: Right cash crab Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or or or just seemed kind of crass within

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Speaker 1: you know, we have his flag up on the wall

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Speaker 1: that's our way of honoring him because he was our

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Speaker 1: signed to contracts, I think it's a really really comfortable

438
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Speaker 1: fit for us.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is a shock, but it was a

440
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 5: good shock. That's a good change of pay. So one

441
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 5: of the big shocks for the NBA earlier share was

442
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Speaker 5: the signing of Kylie Ray and that also signaled her

443
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 5: coming out of retirement. How big of a signing was

444
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 5: that for you guys, and what are you looking forward

445
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 5: to from her in the future in the n W A.

446
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Sure incredibly talented young woman. You know, we were lucky

447
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: and that we were able to craft a deal with

448
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: Impact to acquire her contract. And yeah, she's you know

449
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: what they used to call a blue chip or whatever.

450
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, She's a She's a superstar

451
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: in the making. She'll go as far in this business

452
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: as she wants to go. She has every skill set

453
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: you can imagine. She has the innate charisma and the

454
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: in ring ability of a future legend. Now whether or

455
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: not she can, you know, persevere. You know, the business

456
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: has a lot of challenges. You know, I can speak

457
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: on both for wrestling and music. So I'm very, very

458
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: empathetic to how the business can put a person in

459
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of a particular corner and they might find hard

460
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: to persevere over those things. But I think she has

461
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: everything that you need and hopefully she's in a positive,

462
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: happy position, particularly with the NWA, or she'll want to

463
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: keep making that choice going forward with us. So we're

464
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: very excited she's part of our world. She's a total

465
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Speaker 1: pleasure to deal with, and she's one of those people

466
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: when she's in the ring, I truly pay another degree

467
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: of attention. Sheus has that extra ability that I can't

468
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 1: quite put my finger on what it was or is.

469
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: I saw the same thing with thunder Rosa, using another

470
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Speaker 1: an example, there's just something about the X factor charisma

471
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: that they have where you just pay that little bit

472
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: extra attention. She absolutely has that for sure.

473
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Speaker 4: And you know, Kylie's going to be a part of

474
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: the big weekend coming up, and let's let's kind of

475
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: dive into the big weekend NWA and Power in Wa

476
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 4: seventy three right around the corner next weekend, so it's

477
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: it's right upon us and it's taking place at the

478
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Speaker 4: Chase Park Plaza in historic Saint Louis. What are you

479
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: most excited about for these two big, huge events, Man.

480
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Speaker 1: That's a tough question. I'm in the car. I just

481
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: we're having some posters made and I just wrote the

482
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: cards out for both shows and I was like, man,

483
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: these shows are totally totally loaded. And by the way,

484
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: there are two pay per views back to back for

485
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Speaker 1: anybody that's interested, fights offering a special two day package.

486
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean, the shows are just it's loaded, man. I

487
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: mean there's there's there's no fluff and a lot of

488
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: big names. I mean, you know something I would point to,

489
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Speaker 1: like Diamante coming over from AW I'm really looking forward

490
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, obviously, you know, the Impact World Women's

491
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: Champions coming over. Uh, that's a big deal. I don't

492
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: know what that sound is. Is that that's somebody'sone?

493
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: Sorry, I was getting a phone call.

494
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: I think a CM punk calling you.

495
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Speaker 5: Eli, just.

496
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Speaker 3: Let you know tonight tonight.

497
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 5: He's checking in. Yeah, he's checking a.

498
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

499
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like asking you to pick which

500
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: one's your favorite kid, It's it's hard.

501
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, off the top of my head, Layla hirsh from

502
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: a w versus Camille. There's no mistake there that Layla

503
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: is a legit shooter.

504
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

505
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Speaker 1: I love Layla's attitude coming out of that, like I

506
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: don't care how big you are, I'm gonna kick your ass.

507
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 5: Right.

508
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: I love that. I want to see that.

509
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 5: The visual versus the goliath thing. Yeah.

510
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Speaker 1: And Camille's a jacked up crazy woman, let me tell you.

511
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: Well and studio Yeah, and her appearance on Dynamite not

512
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: too long ago. I mean Twitter was going crazy. They're like,

513
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 5: ohh the crap is that? Like, well, you need you

514
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 5: need to be watching a w A Clarksville.

515
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the world of Camille, you know, And

516
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: obviously at pri m w A fans Camille is very

517
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: familiar Nick nick All this versus Trevor Murdoch, Trevor putting

518
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: his career on the line. I thought that was crazy.

519
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: It's something he insisted on doing, even though he didn't

520
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: have to. I was not a fan of that. But

521
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: I think Trevor believes this is a this is a

522
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: defining moment for him.

523
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Speaker 5: That's been such an interesting story too, by the way.

524
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to talk about a contrast of personalities, right, Yeah,

525
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't be farther from I mean, talk about two

526
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: different rules clashing La Rebelle Jon from from Triple A

527
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: with Mecha back to from in the Chicago indies for

528
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: over a decade, but himself as a star in Mexico,

529
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: them coming in from Triple A to face Stevens and Kraados.

530
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Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I mean, I don't know. There's about

531
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: eight to ten matches on there. I think those are easy,

532
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: could steal the show type matches. And usually when you

533
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: look at a card and say maybe one or two,

534
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of matches. And I think the stakes,

535
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the pressure history with the chase. Of course, we're gonna

536
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: have Rick Flair in the building, seventy three. I mean,

537
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I think the intensity of those that

538
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: night will be world class. Having the nature Boy there

539
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: obviously a big deal with the power. I'm bringing the

540
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: Burke Belt, the original Mildred Burke belt, which I've purchased

541
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: into the ring for the first time probably since nineteen

542
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: fifty four.

543
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: So, by the way, seeing the photos that everybody's been

544
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: posting with you in that belt, that thing looks beautiful.

545
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.

546
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 5: You know.

547
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Miss Burke had it at one point because according to

548
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: her granddaughter, the gold was flaking off at the gold plating,

549
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: so she had it recast into kind of some type

550
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: of silver, and she changed some of the verbiage on

551
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: the belt. But underneath that plating and underneath some of

552
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: the plating that she had changed over the top is

553
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: the original, you know, because it was originally welterweight Women's Champion.

554
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: I think it was nineteen thirty six or something was

555
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: the original belt. You can see those photos. So I'm

556
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: going to try to have that belt restored to its

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: original form.

558
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: That's going to be great.

559
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: But just look just the history, just the history between

560
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: Rick Flair and the era that he brings into the

561
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: ring and then the history that the Mildred Burke represents

562
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: her belt. I mean you're talking about literally spending the

563
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 1: entire history of the NWA. So we're representing hard and

564
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: we want to give you know, I said to somebody

565
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: the other day, we want to give fans not only

566
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: something of value, but sort of define why we're different,

567
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you know what it is about the NWA. And I

568
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: think these shows sort of it's like a clear example,

569
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: like here's who we are. You know, we're not going

570
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: to change. We've been this way for seventy three years.

571
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: Uh and and our motto is, you know, tougher, bigger, better, faster,

572
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: and that's that's the way we're going to go up

573
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: or that's the way we're going to go down right well.

574
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 5: And you know, I think I think buying the Burk

575
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: was I mean, arguably that would have been enough news

576
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: headed into the weekend. I mean, that's a historical piece

577
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: of history, and you know, obviously it's been brought back

578
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 5: to prominence with Alison k thunder Rosa now Camille. But

579
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 5: you did mention a certain former champion that we'll be

580
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: making appearance, mister Rick Flair. I'm kind of surprised as

581
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: tending him this long to come back. I mean, it's

582
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: been probably what over thirty years since he's done anything

583
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: in the NWA related.

584
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Well, I've heard, I've heard different dates. Some person said, uh,

585
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine maybe because that was the end of

586
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: him working with Crockett, and then maybe WCW. So I

587
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: guess it's hard to say because obviously some people consider

588
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: the wc W lineage to be part of the n

589
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: w A story. Yeah, so I'm not here to debated.

590
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I think it's look to even have to debate. It

591
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: is awesome because right, there's so much history there.

592
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, how did that appearance come about? I mean,

593
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 5: did he reach out to you guys? Did you guys

594
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: reach out to him? Like? I mean that that's a

595
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: that's a massive you know, Yet I think especially prior

596
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: to the root, you know, you're you being in control

597
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: of an NBA. I think he's really synonymous with that brand,

598
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: you know.

599
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: Uh sure, well I know that. I know that anyway,

600
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: World's heavyweight Champion Nick All this had had lunched not

601
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: too long ago with Conrad Thompson, who, of course everybody

602
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: knows Conrad from his success in podcasting.

603
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: If somebody doesn't know Conrad, I don't know what they.

604
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh God bless but but Conrad's also you know, he's

605
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: a member of the Flair family be a marriage, and

606
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: so I believe it was right around the time that

607
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: mister Flair had left his relationship with the WWE. So

608
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I think maybe there was some poking around during that

609
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: lunch about do you think this is something Rick might

610
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: be interested in? And so I think that opened up

611
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: the channel to talking behind the scenes about whether or

612
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: not we could put together and obviously it did happen,

613
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited. You know, there's lots of things

614
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: you do in wrestling where you kind of cross your

615
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: fingers and you hope for the best. Yeah, And it's

616
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: an awesome responsibility to run the NWA with history, you know.

617
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's no mistake that I care about the

618
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: history of the business, not just the NWA's history. And

619
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: there are only certain moments in life where you can

620
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: put those pieces together, where you connect all those dots.

621
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: And mister Flair coming back to the NWA specifically in

622
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: the chase, specifically on the seventy third anniversary show, I mean,

623
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: that is an awesome thing to be able to sign

624
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: off on, and then to bring the Burke Belt back

625
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: into an NWA ring probably the first time in what seventy,

626
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, sixty something years. Yeah, those that again awesome

627
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: things to sign off on. And I hope this is

628
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: just the beginning of a thousand awesome things for sure.

629
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Speaker 4: And speaking of the Burke Belt, we had some fellow

630
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: friends of ours that submitted a question that wanted to

631
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: ask you, and they submitted it via video, So I'm

632
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: going to play that for you, and they just want

633
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: to ask you a quick question about the Burke Belt.

634
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Speaker 7: So, Hey, Billy, this is Keith White from Mixed Tag Recording,

635
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 7: apparently in Stuhart's Dungeon. And I was curious you just

636
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: brought back the title that Mildred Burke held and are

637
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 7: giving her some long overdue respect and recognition. And I

638
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 7: was just curious what other NWA star from the past

639
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 7: do you feel like is overdue for some recognition.

640
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: Thanks, Well, that's a question. I don't even know where

641
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I would start. You know, I think it's a shame

642
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: that that the some of the early legends of the

643
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: NWA have kind of been, you know, erased due to

644
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: time and that's not because they weren't accomplished, it's because

645
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: they don't sort of fit in the ww's particular narrative

646
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: because of the way that the WW you know, wwwf

647
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: left and you know, became their own entity outside the NWA.

648
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: So that narrative, you know, the narrative of professional wrestling

649
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: over the last seventy years, tends to be dominated by

650
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: the WWE narrative as is there, as is their desire,

651
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and I can't blame them, but when you look at

652
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: some of the early champions, particularly of the fifties, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I consider in rattle names for ten minutes. So it's

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Speaker 1: my hope that through documentaries and some historical perspectives, maybe

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Speaker 1: even some podcasting, we can explore that era and help

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Speaker 1: people really appreciate how the NWE not only came into being,

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Speaker 1: but the stars that were part of the NWA, whether

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Speaker 1: Brazil or I mean, it just goes on and on

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Speaker 1: and on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. W CW actually and this this might have been

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Speaker 5: like right before the WCWNWA thing into I'm not sure,

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Speaker 5: but they actually had the Paddle Connor Tournament in about

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Speaker 5: ninety or ninety one, and uh, paddle Connor obviously was

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Speaker 5: an NWA World champion. He actually held the NWA World

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Speaker 5: Champion and the aw A World Champion at the exact

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Speaker 5: same time, which is pretty crazy. And uh, I just

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Speaker 5: remember that tournament. I want to say that Steiner Brothers

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Speaker 5: won that tag team tournament. So it was always kind

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Speaker 5: of cool to you know. You guys are obviously with

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Speaker 5: the Crocket, you kind of already have something that kind

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Speaker 5: of goes back to your past. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: I think a little you know, thirty minute documentary or

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Speaker 5: like a podcast where you could really deep dive into

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Speaker 5: that stuff. I mean, us fans, we love stuff. We

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Speaker 5: love hearing about the history. And I think you just

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Speaker 5: mentioned about Flair coming in it kind of represents, you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of past president and future you know, kind of

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Speaker 5: that one event is going to kind of tie every together,

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Speaker 5: you know, for one event.

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Speaker 1: So sure, and just just think of you know, Rick

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Speaker 1: Flair's namesake, you know, the original nature Boy, Buddy Rogers,

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Speaker 1: you know, argue arguably arguably the most influential wrestling star

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Speaker 1: of the twentieth.

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Speaker 5: Century, especially concerning heels. I mean, people are still following

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Speaker 5: his playbug.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you look at Buddy Rogers in ring style,

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Speaker 1: his promos, the way he carried himself, I mean you're

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Speaker 1: still seeing Buddy Rogers. Yeah, absolutely, and and and there

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Speaker 1: really wasn't a Buddy Rogers before Buddy Rogers. Yeah so

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Speaker 1: so yeah, So that's that's what I'm saying. If you're

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Speaker 1: a wrestling fan and you're those names, don't roll off

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Speaker 1: your tongue. That's not that's not your fault. That means

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Speaker 1: people like me have not educated you to make you

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Speaker 1: on understand how rich this history is and why it's

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Speaker 1: really important.

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Speaker 4: Right, so real quick, before we let you go, where

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Speaker 4: is the best place people could keep up with you

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Speaker 4: or the nw A. Where would you like for everybody

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Speaker 4: to find for more information?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's always best to follow us on Instagram or Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You know, we update those multiple times a day. That's

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Speaker 1: where you're going to find any kind of breaking news

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Speaker 1: and you know, everything from merch discounts and programming updates

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So you follow us obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: come with us on fight. You know, we have a

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Speaker 1: very modest subscription model. M w A power fans are

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Speaker 1: if you if you're wondering where the product is, maybe

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Speaker 1: you saw it before when we were free on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: We just put a free show up on YouTube not

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Speaker 1: too long ago. It's done a pretty good view count,

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Speaker 1: which tells me people are still interested beyond what we're

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Speaker 1: doing on Fight, which is great because we want people

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Speaker 1: coming to with us to Fight. You know, there's no

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Speaker 1: secret we're in a we're in an interesting model for

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Speaker 1: trying to build the company, working with Fight and working

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Speaker 1: you know, on pay per view. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're probably the only major company that's out there that's

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Speaker 1: not owned by one hundred mili plus millionaire. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not begging. We want to We want to outpace

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Speaker 1: any expectation that a fan would have. And I think again,

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Speaker 1: if you look at this weekend in Saint Louis, the

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Speaker 1: Fan Fast both days ten ten am to one pm

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Speaker 1: at the Chase, you know we're we're we're over delivering.

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Speaker 1: We're over delivering. As Nick always pointed out to me

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Speaker 1: yesterday when we announced mister Flair being part of n

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Speaker 1: W A seventy three he said, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing. They're adding Rick Flair to a show that's

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Speaker 1: already sold out for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you didn't even need the star power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, god bless But but my point, I hadn't even

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Speaker 1: thought of it, because all I could think of was

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Speaker 1: I just want to give the best, best show for

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Speaker 1: for the fans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I got to say, have Bush sponsor the

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Speaker 4: show is the best thing ever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We just we found out today we have another sponsor

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Speaker 1: coming on board. I can't announce that yet, so it's

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Speaker 1: really exciting. For first time we've ever had sponsorship opportunities.

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Speaker 1: So things are really clicking. And thanks you guys. You

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Speaker 1: guys are there in the beginning, and you know, hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll talk many more times as this thing continues to grow.

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Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, and once again, thank you for coming

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Speaker 4: on the show today, and we look forward to you know,

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Speaker 4: the big shows coming up on August twenty eighth and

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Speaker 4: twenty ninth, which by the way, you can watch on

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Speaker 4: Fight And thanks to Fight, which by the way, we

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Speaker 4: are really good friends with them as well as you are.

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Speaker 4: We actually have a code for our listeners that are

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Speaker 4: watching this that they can win to watch the NWA

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Speaker 4: this weekend, so definitely check us out on Twitter Battleground

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Speaker 4: IHR and if you don't win, by because.

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Speaker 3: I can't buy tickets because it's old back.

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