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Speaker 1: You better so subscribe. Look man, oh I see you?

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Speaker 1: Why why? And look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness?

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Speaker 1: Well lost culture? Just calling I fellow? This one under

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Speaker 1: a big day. This is a pretty big day. File

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Speaker 1: under a big day. And then put it in the cabinet,

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Speaker 1: cabinet of my heart, of your heart? Can I say something? Yes?

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Speaker 1: You remember? Do you recall? You recollect When we hosted

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Speaker 1: a show for our guests, and our guests gave a

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Speaker 1: so our guest put on this comedy show, brought champagne

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Speaker 1: like I've been to Epcot. Yeah, my culture is um,

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Speaker 1: eyes are very sweet. I'm gonna take you with me. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: we need to come. That's what this is about, is

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Speaker 1: we need to join you in your world to do um.

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Speaker 1: This is and and I just remember the moment too,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so excited to be here on this rainy,

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Speaker 1: debilitating um chronic pain. And it's just a really emotional book.

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Speaker 1: And I realized, like, as I've gotten older, I've gotten

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Speaker 1: much more sensitive where things affect me. And so like

428
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Speaker 1: put it away because it was driving me, like I'm

430
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Speaker 1: very sensitive and I'm not saying that stopped me from reading. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for something sad to read. You should read

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Speaker 1: this a little I'm serious though. I I this is

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Speaker 1: massage therapist set hand surgery. Anyway, so UM and I

436
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Speaker 1: have a little back things. So anyway, after she finished,

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Speaker 1: she said, I think you have a lot of sadness

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Speaker 1: to get out of you. And I said, um, yeah, probably,

439
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Speaker 1: and so she was saying, if you can't, you know,

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Speaker 1: get it out, you could just go watch just you know,

441
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Speaker 1: sad movie or something. And I went to watch at

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Speaker 1: ten am, the Julia Rharts movie. Then is Bad. I

443
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Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up. How was it? It's it's

444
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Speaker 1: what you think it is. You know, it is really heartbreaking,

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Speaker 1: and they both give great performances. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to spoil the ending, but I'll just say that it's

447
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Speaker 1: it's not a good ending, like it not as in anything.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it just stops, and you're like, no,

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Speaker 1: I want to know what happens, because I mean the

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Speaker 1: reality I kind of you know, and that's frustrating from

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Speaker 1: like a narrative standpoint because you're like, oh man, give

452
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Speaker 1: me this Catharsis of knowing what happens, good or bad.

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Speaker 1: But also I kind of like that kind of comment

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Speaker 1: in a movie like that, because that is something that

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Speaker 1: families all across our country. It's it's a true right now.

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Speaker 1: And it does end with an ellipsis, So I do

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Speaker 1: kind of love that. Do you know what Bad Is

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Speaker 1: Back is about? So Lucas how just plays Julia Roberts's son,

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Speaker 1: and he has in in drug rehab and he gets

460
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Speaker 1: hooked on drugs as a teenager, like fourteen, and we

461
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Speaker 1: learned that in the movie. And so he's done everything,

462
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Speaker 1: he's dealt. He's like broken into his own mother's house,

463
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Speaker 1: the neighbors houses, and I think, you know, he's he's

464
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Speaker 1: gone deep. And so like the whole community knows he's

465
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Speaker 1: an addict. And it's a rampant problem because throughout the

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Speaker 1: movie you meet other people who, you know, we're just

467
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Speaker 1: throwing a frisbee in a call to Sack a few

468
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Speaker 1: years ago, and now they're like these you know, heroin addicts,

469
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Speaker 1: and it's really dark. Did not shed a tear though?

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Speaker 1: Really I didn't. It was I am I'm normally sap.

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Speaker 1: So maybe she's sent or something. I don't know, Like

472
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Speaker 1: I just felt like I really wanted to. It's why

473
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Speaker 1: I went to go see didn't have a good cry

474
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Speaker 1: and I leave it behind. But no, because I just,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's because it's like not melodramatic. It

476
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Speaker 1: was very realistic. It was super slice of life. And

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Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, I like, you know, did

478
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Speaker 1: you cry to Stars Born? I cried more? Yeah, but

479
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Speaker 1: that was Yeah, it was, I mean, I kind of.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's such the subject is frough for me

481
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Speaker 1: because you know, I was in a movie with a

482
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Speaker 1: star the same story, right, Why Lady Gaga wanted to

483
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Speaker 1: be in a movie? Just let her be in a movie.

484
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Speaker 1: As you saw, she's a good actor, right, I think

485
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Speaker 1: she did a great job, you know, very nice and

486
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Speaker 1: kind of on, you know, and that was great. And

487
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Speaker 1: you also got to see the beauty of her voice

488
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Speaker 1: a cappella and really understand that, you know, under all

489
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Speaker 1: those me dresses there's this incredible talent. And it turns

490
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Speaker 1: it turns out she's a great actor too. And for

491
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Speaker 1: the first for the first part of the movie, Jeff

492
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Speaker 1: Bridges way of speaking, heally was distracting for me. I

493
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Speaker 1: was like, why is he speaking like the tall guy

494
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495
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Speaker 1: in a Western or Tommy Jones movie. And then he

496
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Speaker 1: comes on and I'm like, oh, he's playing his brother. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so Bradley Cooper as Jackson made aka Jeff Bridges is

498
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Speaker 1: doing it, doing it Jeff Bridges basically, I mean, basically,

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Speaker 1: why wasn't Jeff Bridges in it? That was jeffred is

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Speaker 1: crazy Heart it's crazy high. Yeah, and and so so

501
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: it's really that I have the same questions too. And

502
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Speaker 1: also the line of the script was like you stole

503
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Speaker 1: my voice. I was like, do we need this? It's so,

504
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Speaker 1: but you are dead on the ending of Glitter, that

505
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Speaker 1: is the ending of Stars Born. Yeah, they're the same.

506
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Speaker 1: It's the same story because the ending of Stars Born

507
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Speaker 1: is just her basically doing a Whitney Maria moment, like literally,

508
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Speaker 1: so sure, I feel like you've always had a sense

509
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Speaker 1: of humor about Glitter, but is this is it's still

510
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Speaker 1: a thing where you are, you are, you're you're watching

511
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Speaker 1: other media and you are sort of still sort of

512
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Speaker 1: seeing things through that lens of like, oh well I was,

513
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Speaker 1: I was in a version of this and like does

514
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Speaker 1: that how does that affect affect me at all? It

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Speaker 1: doesn't affect me at all. I mean, you know, I

516
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Speaker 1: think in defensive glitter like there, you know, it came

517
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Speaker 1: out ten days after nine eleven, right and came out

518
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Speaker 1: the day up, that's right, And it was really you know,

519
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Speaker 1: light popcorny movie. You know, do I think it would

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Speaker 1: have been considered this Citizen King anyway? Now? I don't,

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Speaker 1: But you know, whatever, it wasn't you know, the worst

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Speaker 1: thing out there. But um but I do think that

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Speaker 1: you know, when when when a performer who has reached

524
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Speaker 1: a height of Saint Mariah or Gaga, you know, wants

525
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Speaker 1: to get into movies, like, I think we should be

526
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Speaker 1: a little more creative about how we utilize them. Because

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Speaker 1: I thought the movie it was lovely. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: they both gave great performances. Um, I just wanted to

529
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Speaker 1: see more. Yeah, I get that you knew what was

530
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Speaker 1: going to happen, you did. I mean, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: very sort of mythic sort of thing where it's like

532
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534
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Speaker 1: you know it's a version of you know, there's that myth,

535
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Speaker 1: You know. It's Yeah, so you liked Venus Back despite

537
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Speaker 1: like I really liked it. I wish you wish satter

538
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Speaker 1: and darker. Is I know that's odd to say. I

539
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Speaker 1: was going in with a certain intention and destroy me film. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it takes a specific kind of film. I'm not a crier,

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Speaker 1: and it takes a very specific kind of I mean

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Speaker 1: I remember crying in Out of Africa. Yeah, okay, I

543
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544
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Speaker 1: you know, I call it happy things. Maybe try that,

545
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Speaker 1: Maybe try like you have, Maybe try this like I'm

546
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Speaker 1: it was a past leader, thank god, but I just

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00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: had this group of like rowdy asked children with like

635
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: some baby some caretaker type, like baby sitter type, just

636
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: like sitting there sort of letting them run them up

637
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: and like being on her phone totally, and I just

638
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: like I literally couldn't take in what was going on.

639
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: And I was like and then by the end of

640
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: bad O Pair I walked out. I was like, I

641
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I don't think I understood what

642
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: was happening. In there because because all the chatter I was,

643
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have an opinion on the movie, and I

644
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: was like, I have to see this again just to

645
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: like not just clean, just to like know what this is.

646
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: And this sounds so crazy just talking about it now,

647
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: but literally walked out of that the first time not

648
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: having an idea of what it was, but then seeing

649
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: it again, like you, I also just picked up on

650
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: the things that like I had taken in the first time.

651
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: It's just an incredible movie. And that was one of

652
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: the most beautiful, powerful um scenes of the year I think,

653
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: which is you know, spoiler alert right now if you

654
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen Black Panther you have, but that scene where

655
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Michael b. Jordans dies at the end, and it's so beautiful,

656
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's it's just like wow, it's

657
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: just it's just so abuff and beyond. Because you could

658
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: have made you could have done the Superhero movie, but

659
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: they made that art that's better than any more of

660
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: a movie I've ever seen. And I mean also, the

661
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: women characters were not appendages. They were all different, had

662
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: all different personalities, you know, they were so um in

663
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: their own essential selves. Yeah, you know, had inner lives

664
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: and that's something we don't usually see. And I say, like,

665
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, people are talking about Michael B. Jordan's for

666
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: a Supporting Actor nomination, which you know, I think he's

667
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: one of the most famous, so that makes sense. But Nigeria,

668
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: she is stunned the movie as person, and I was like,

669
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: this is someone who's multi multitalented and the playwright she's

670
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was an as powerful as I watch.

671
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I saw her in Eclipse. Ye oh, and she was

672
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: isn't that the play? Yeah, she was amazing. And I

673
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: saw it when it was at Joe's Joseph pat Theater,

674
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: the public theater. I saw it there before it went

675
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: to Broadway. It was so powerful and everyone l Peto

676
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: and Yango was in that too. Everyone in that cast

677
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: was so fantastic. It was brilliant. I mean that's the thing,

678
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: like I want to hear other stories, which is why

679
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: I read, which is why you read. And you too

680
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: have to go see Slave play. Jeremy O. Harris. It's

681
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: at the New York Theater. We're going together. We're going together.

682
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I'll try to get a ticket. No, but seriously, it's

683
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp and I went we walked away from that

684
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: thinking and he's the guy who knows theater, our friend,

685
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: but we were both like, that's the best piece of

686
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: theater I've ever seen in my life. Truly, so smart

687
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: leaves no stone unturned when it comes to like there's

688
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: there's something that happens in the play that like just

689
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: blows your mind age and like that's all I can say.

690
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: But like, truly, I'm getting everyone at work like into it,

691
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: like you've been talking about. Colin came over to me,

692
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: he was like, I think I'm gonna go see Slave

693
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Play this weekend because like you, you're so into it

694
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: and you're so you're like its biggest cheerleader. The thing is,

695
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I can't. So it starts out with these vignettes of

696
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: like sexual sort of it's essentially like you, like you

697
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: think it's about like sexual sub subjugation in Antebellum times um,

698
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: and then it just like it becomes it becomes all

699
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: these other things, and truly such such such an inspired

700
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: piece of work by Jeremy O. Harris. Check him out.

701
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: He's he's he has a career. He's writing the show

702
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: that Alan Cumming is in called Daddy, that's off Broadway. Um,

703
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: it all takes place in a swimming pool on stage.

704
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: That's all people know about it so far. But everyone's

705
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: like losing their minds over there, like it's going to

706
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: be great, Like we don't know what it's gonna be,

707
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: but like it's gonna be something brilliant. So anyway, we

708
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: do need more pools on stage, and we need more

709
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: pools on stage. Um, But I think I just want

710
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: to I want to ask patn of this before we

711
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: get into the central question of the show, what you want.

712
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm just always stunned at just the way that you're

713
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: able to just not only talk about food like you

714
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: do on on Top Chef and like just in regular

715
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: sort of life, I guess, and the way you write

716
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: about it. But also I just feel like you're someone

717
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: who is so able and so adept at taking in

718
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: all different types of culture. And this is a culture show,

719
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: which is a very broad definition of like everything basically, like, yeah,

720
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: what we consume um in all forms is there? Are you?

721
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: What is your discerning element? And like picking out things

722
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: that you like or dislike or just like what you like?

723
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: How do you figure out what to give attention to?

724
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: Is what I'm asking basically it's hard. You know, things

725
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: go across our screens now that um at a velocity

726
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: that it's hard to really absorb them. But I think

727
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: something's always bubble up, whether that's an issue or a

728
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: new thing or lately, I think what there's been such

729
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: a lack of common sense, So I'm attracted to things

730
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: that are just like it's a stupid example, okay, but

731
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: in microcosm, very microcosm, Like I posted a picture of

732
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: this toast with peanut butter, I know, you know what

733
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and pome and pomegranate, like last minute,

734
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: late at night on a weekend, and you never know,

735
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: and that thing. We've had like hundreds of people posting

736
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: those pictures and sending them to us and we repost

737
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: them and every you know, I've just done Pressed for

738
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Top Chef because it just premiered um last week, right

739
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: and um, every single interview I did from from Busy

740
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: to like BuzzFeed, I mean everything. I mean, I was

741
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: on Access Hollywood. I got there, they greeted me, it

742
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: was we made this okay, so lust and it's just

743
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: become this random thing because as I think, it tapped

744
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: into something that was so familiar put in a different

745
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: way together, and I think, you know, and I think

746
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: that's what attracts people to to you know, anything I

747
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: say or do, I don't. I don't discriminate between um,

748
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, the importance of tradition or what's better or

749
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, food and politics, I think, and womanhood and

750
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: parenting and family and all of that. I don't think

751
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: it's any different. I treat everything with the same interest

752
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: because if I'm not interested in it, then I leave

753
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: it behind. But you know, I was. It's funny to

754
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: hear you say that you were a drama student. I

755
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: was a theater major in college as well. And so

756
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: I think when you when you think, you know, leaving

757
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: aside the performance aspect of it, when you try to

758
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: find a key into someone you look at you know,

759
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: what are the things they're drawn to, what are things

760
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: they like? And that collection of opinions forms who they

761
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: are because it's informed by what they've gone through. Um,

762
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's very important. And you know, social

763
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: media is really bad and evil. However, however, for me

764
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: it's been a way to control my narrative and talk

765
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: about things that I don't get to talk about on

766
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: top Chef because the show is so formatic, and you know,

767
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: in order to do my job well and make sure

768
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: everybody gets heard and the business of the show gets through,

769
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, you don't really see a lot of me.

770
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you see my opinions about food in an

771
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: analytical way. But um, so it's been great for me

772
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: to UM. I used to write. I used to I

773
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: had a syndicated column for for a bit and then

774
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: for the New York Times. You know, I also um

775
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: due to Style Column and Harper's Bizarre And so I

776
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: come at everything as a writer mostly like whether it

777
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's plays, I'm always or movies I'm always

778
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: listening for the script and and I think, what the

779
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: hell was my point is that is, oh well, just

780
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: controlling my own narrative. And I think, like it's it's

781
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: more interesting to see what a full person is like.

782
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: And I'm I can be that um in Instagram or

783
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever, especially because you know, like when when

784
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I would imagine that when you are Pod Malakshmi and

785
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: you are like put up on this pedestal of being

786
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: like the top chef host who has this like cultured

787
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: opinion about food and all these things it's like you

788
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: know you do you there would be a part of

789
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: you that wants to express everyone like get to know

790
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: the real me. I also have like I'm interested in comedy,

791
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm interested in these things. I like these films like yeah, yeah,

792
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: it's true. I mean, look, I'm very proud of of

793
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: the show. And I'm you know, like I I am

794
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: genuinely an egghead about food, Like I published an encyclopedia

795
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: for God's sake, you know, you know what you're talking about. Ever,

796
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the spices and book. I was like,

797
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: there's a whole book about this. Yeah, well I wanted

798
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: one to exist, and I really couldn't find a good one.

799
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: So I was like, darn it, I'm gonna write one. Yeah,

800
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and now now everyone knows about green mango powder, everyone truly.

801
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: That was that was crazy for me. That really blew

802
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: it up. Green mango powder, especially in fried chicken crust.

803
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: It delicious because you have this sourness already in should

804
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: we put it into basically like whatever mix and I

805
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: put like rice crispies in there and coin flakes and

806
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: bread crumbs and all that, so you like dredge it

807
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: and in that you season that. You season that with

808
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: salt and cayenne and green mango powders that secret ingredient

809
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: in there. So you're this this season takes place in Kentucky,

810
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: and obviously you think, like every year it gets influenced

811
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: by this city or so here you are, like in Kentucky?

812
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: Does that mean a lot of fried stuff? Are you?

813
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: And are you eating all of it? I'm not eating

814
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: all of it. I ate a good fair amount. Yeah,

815
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I ate my share of it the first half of filming.

816
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: And then I was like, girl, you were eating so much.

817
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Like I always eat a lot on on set, but

818
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: I do want to try the local specialties of wherever

819
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm going. So I did. I had all these pork

820
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: pies and banana croquettes and I was having mint julip

821
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: s lush, She's bourbon and the like. The second week,

822
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel so well right between

823
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: you and Tom, Like you're you're eating much more than

824
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: he does. I eat double what he does. That's crazy

825
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: that there. I mean, he's there for the first quick

826
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: fire at the season, but I'm there for every quick fire. Yeah.

827
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: He just breezes in every other day and gals out

828
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the whole season. Yeah, yeah, she's actually saw our Last night,

829
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: I was at Andy's holiday party and she looked great. Um,

830
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: she you know, she was very pregnant. And the second

831
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: was the quick fire was for her, was like her

832
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: craving did you see? I was like, this is a

833
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: joke for two days after that to was it was

834
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: it twins that that was a he has a beautiful

835
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: boy to do. So do you feel like, Okay, so

836
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: obviously you can't like have favoritism, but every season, are

837
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: you like, oh, I'm definitely pulling for that person or

838
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: do you stay pretty removed? Are you like a route

839
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: Paul about I'm very RuPaul about it, you know, I am,

840
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: because like I just honestly, I just judge them on

841
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: their food, and then when they make a stupid mistake,

842
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're so capable of more than this.

843
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're rooting for all of them in a

844
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: sense to get out of their own way. You know. No,

845
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: and again there's the annoying person. You're like, all right, yeah,

846
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: but you know, like for the most part, I luckily

847
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: stand by all the decisions that we've made at the

848
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: time we made that, So, um, I think this season

849
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: is no different, Like you wind up rooting for the

850
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: three or four it at like mid season, you know,

851
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: aren't doing consistently well, and it's interesting to see their

852
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: cooking styles and how they differ and how they interpret

853
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: the local ingredients or whatever. I don't know, I'm I

854
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: get super into the weeds about stuff like that, like

855
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: I love you know, and when it's at that level,

856
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: especially the later episodes, it really is like, oh, well,

857
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: if there was only one more leaf of Parsley, because

858
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: you have nothing else to judge it on, you know,

859
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: in the whatever. Just in the first quick fire off

860
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: this season, it was just like everyone was pretty solid

861
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, what do you when you

862
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: realize like it's the true Like you also slayed your

863
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: episode of RuPaul's Dragons, Yeah, you were so good and

864
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: also well I wanted to be constructed. I'm not doing

865
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: any of them a favor if I'm just like, wow,

866
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: you makeup was a little you know, and I got

867
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: it really into that ship because I'm already deep into

868
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: that ship at home badly. I was away filming something,

869
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: so I had bought tickets, but I couldn't go, So

870
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: I made Chrishna's dad take her to dragon Oh my god, yes,

871
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: in New York. And she's like, mom, that was great,

872
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: But next year you're going. I'm like, listen, that start

873
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: just for just for braving that whole braving it. But

874
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, so many people, it's families. It's so many

875
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: families tournament right exactly. Oh my god, my god. Everyone

876
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: would have been a gag to see you there. I

877
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: do you golf dragon girl. We are already planning our outfits. Yes,

878
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: we just we we have a punch for uh, we

879
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: have a punch on for dressing up at home. Yes,

880
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: we start planning on Halloween colastumes at like I don't

881
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: know Easter, literally, like we go to M and J. Jerming's.

882
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: We have our blu guns on. We have like we

883
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: only have four packets of clear glue sticks versus fabric

884
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: glue sticks. I think we're better get some more challenge.

885
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. It's so much was that the

886
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: first or second episode of All Stars that you were on,

887
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: it was like you were on I was on season

888
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: ten but it was early Yeah, and you know, I

889
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: he's so funny and I got to know him really

890
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: well because it was a really long day and he

891
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: was so great. We became friends from that. I had

892
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: known him a little bit again for a long time

893
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: because I would see him at Emmy things or you know,

894
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: just see in l A or whatever. And through that

895
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: filming we became friends and and he's really cool, you know,

896
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: he he was very Sweetie said he drove to all

897
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: the Max stores in the Los Angeles area. He bought

898
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: everyone out of my brown eyeliner because I was like

899
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: a girl, it's really hard to find a brown that

900
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: turns up on I was like, I know, that's why, Yes,

901
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: your brown works on him really well. Yeah, my round,

902
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: I had a I did. I designed a makeup lind

903
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: for mac Um earlier this year, and um he you know,

904
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: he just loved it, because you know, I love makeup.

905
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, this step away from being a drag queen

906
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: if you let me go. It's really they were going

907
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: to have a full contour, honestly, wage contouring. Okay, So

908
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: let's ask the question that we ask every every guest,

909
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to hear Padma's answer. So this

910
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: is the question of our show, which is what is

911
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say? Culture is for me

912
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: the pop culture that was defining in your life that

913
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: from a young age, like still as a touchstone that

914
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: you can call back to. You know. I didn't want

915
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: to go to college until I watched a Different World. Wow.

916
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: You know my parents were always like steady heart study.

917
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, whatever, you know. I saw a

918
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Different World and I was like, wait, you get to

919
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: live away from your parents? Interesting what I do? Wow,

920
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I've never seen. A Different World

921
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: is a classic. It is the spinoff when Lisa Bone

922
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: got kicked off of Cosby being sexually to Cosby the

923
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: irony and for doing Angel Heart with Milosh you directed

924
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: by Milosh Foreman with what's his name Mickey Roy. Yeah,

925
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: that was a sexy They did not get along. They

926
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: did Lisa and Bill Cosby and so basically they knew Lisa.

927
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: It was a star, and they said, well we're going

928
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: to do this other show was good for her. Yeah,

929
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: and so and so you watched a Different World and

930
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, this is I want to be Lisa. Yes, totally.

931
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: But like my culture, all my cultural touchstones start from TV.

932
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: So really I am the generation of MTV. Yes, MTV

933
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: started right at the time I was hitting puberty and

934
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: I was like, what I remember like watching Cindi lauper

935
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I am Member when we didn't know who was going

936
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: to be the bigger star Cyndy Lauperta. Yeah, yes, yes,

937
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: but I mean Michael Jackson. I remember being scared at

938
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: watching Thriller, like really like, oh, maybe I shouldn't watch it,

939
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: and then fall asleep after I know. Now, you know,

940
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: like I grew up with music videos. I remember Annie

941
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Lennox all that stuff, but it was always TV, like

942
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up. I say that Oprah was

943
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: a second mother because you know, I would come home

944
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: from school and watch Oprah. We all did. We all

945
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: watched Oprah and baked potatoes in our new microwaves, right,

946
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: that's so funny. Microwaves really came out around the time

947
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: of m Culture number fourteen, but I actually know it's

948
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: and I think it's literally like their articles about this

949
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: about how Velvita came out the same time that MTV did,

950
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: and like making helpmade nachos was like wet hand and

951
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: now Velvito was before. So I may be wrong, but

952
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: you can make Velvita at home without movie with real cheese,

953
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: like you can eat as long as you add sour salt, like,

954
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, to um cheese, gray cheese. It'll melt better,

955
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: isn't it. Isn't there some irony in a way where

956
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 1: it's like you're making cheese and like actual cheese into

957
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: something sort of worse than I mean, here's here's a

958
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: real true confession. Please. I like this nasty movie theater

959
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: nachos like hot cheese because it's so creamy. I love it,

960
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: but I won't get it unless they have the pickled

961
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: halapenos like more, no more. You know I'm gonna get

962
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: through half these chips. Oh my god, palapenos are going

963
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: to be gone. This is the beginning of it. I

964
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The halapenos have to be because

965
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: otherwise it's just sodium on its very basic. It's very

966
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: basic without very basic without them. But I love it

967
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: that hot cheese. Did you almost burn your fingers sticking

968
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: into Do you have a favorite music video from that time? Yes, um,

969
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: hungry like the Wolf. They filmed it in Sri Lanka.

970
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: I think Duran durand years later, I um, I mean,

971
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't like the biggest freak. I didn't have posters

972
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: and stuff that was so teenage. I was already like

973
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: in my mid twenties when I was a freshman, like

974
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally, but I did I did love Duran Durance.

975
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: So later, when I actually was twenty two or twenty

976
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: four something, I was a model, I met Duran Duran

977
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: and I became friends with them because I don't even

978
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: remember how, and I don't think I could speak full

979
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: sentences for like the first couple of times that I

980
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: was around that because I was so start struck. What

981
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: is is there? What is is there some quality about

982
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Diranda in that like makes them stand out above What's

983
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I mean they were pretty sad. They

984
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: were the only they were the first ones who weren't

985
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: afraid of being beautiful as men like you you know,

986
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: you had all these rock stars and if there were

987
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: guys that you know, yes, Michael Jackson, but he was

988
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: the whole different thing. Prince and Michael Jackson. Yes, I

989
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: remember when we thought Prince was the weird one. Michael, yeah,

990
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: he was. He was like bracing the Yeah. So like

991
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: these were the first white men that were actually like

992
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: we're going to address like really fabulous and we're eyeliner

993
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: and everything. But we're straight. And you know, I I

994
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: my best friend was gay in high school and so no,

995
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean I I knew he was gay, and he

996
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: knew he was gay, but you know, he came out

997
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: to me like on the phone in college and I

998
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I knew that, but I'm glad you

999
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: told me. You know. But then you were a huge

1000
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: part of life then, which is yeah, yeah, I mean

1001
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: we wound up moving in together and then you know,

1002
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: and then other stuff happened and whatever. But when I

1003
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: moved back after modeling in the nineties, I used to

1004
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: live in Milan in Paris, and then I moved back

1005
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: to the States at the end of my late twenties

1006
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: and so um, I had an apart with apartment with

1007
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: him again for a bit. But I mean, most of

1008
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: my I'm so embedded in the culture. You know, I'm

1009
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: just gay without the sex icon and like, so is

1010
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: that do gay men like literally throw themselves at you,

1011
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm so happy that they do. I think

1012
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: my pollen is what every gay b needs, what every

1013
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: that's a title of every gay, every gay being gorgeous

1014
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: and poetic. You get the sense to some people like

1015
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: it takes them a minute to adjust to being a

1016
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: gay icon, like even back in the they like share, yeah,

1017
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she I think it

1018
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: took a second because even remember she had to calibrate

1019
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: and adjust to that. Well when Chaz first came out

1020
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: as a lean, when was chasted, like it was this

1021
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: moment and shares on the record of saying like I

1022
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: felt that I had failed as a parent. And that's right, right,

1023
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: So she's seventy something years old. That's why. Yeah, I know, No,

1024
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have to adjust. I mean I was I

1025
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: was praying on Ben Didney for the crown, like what

1026
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean with on my gays, like I openly invited it,

1027
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: like when I was living in Laws. I'm from New

1028
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: York and I grew up, you know, my early childhood

1029
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: here because I came here when I was four. But

1030
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: I was in high school in a suburb of Los

1031
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: Angeles and in Santa Monica. People who were you know,

1032
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: around in the eighties and l A, We'll remember this.

1033
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: There was a gay club on Santa Monica Boulevard where

1034
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: the French market still stands, called Peanuts. Peanuts that and

1035
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: I used to sneak into Peanuts when I was in

1036
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: high school. Wow. But it was a really sexy crowd,

1037
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like now I find that you go

1038
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: to gay bars, which I do, and it's mostly men

1039
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: and a few of the chosen few like me, or

1040
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: or you go to the covey hole that is it,

1041
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: and yes, which is fine, but um um, you know,

1042
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: my boyfriend doesn't like to go there with me anymore

1043
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: because you said it's like worse than fighting off men.

1044
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: But like it's I I love going everywhere, like I

1045
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: want to meet everyone, but they don't. I want. I

1046
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: want peanuts in New York again. Let me tell you.

1047
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: Let me set the scene. So there it's a mixed crowd.

1048
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: Everyone smells good and is fashionable. And I'm there and

1049
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: they are like these very European elegant um women women,

1050
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: lesbians women at the bar. They were probably lesbians, but

1051
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: like very you know, lipstick lesbians, like you know, picture

1052
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: like Jane Fonda. You know. Yeah, so like you know,

1053
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it was just cool. And then

1054
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: there were gay men obviously, but then there were straight

1055
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: couples there. It was the I mean, put it for you.

1056
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: It was the era when Madonna was dating but really

1057
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: close to Sandra Bernhardt, three would show up at Peanuts

1058
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: so extended there, howord I love that And they would

1059
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: have these like balls and dances. And there was one

1060
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: woman named Paula that you know, I think she was transgendered.

1061
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: But I was like, there's no way that's a guy.

1062
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: But I didn't really know about Tucking then, you know,

1063
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: so maybe it was a guy. You know, I didn't know.

1064
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: So I was really around that a lot, like at fourteen,

1065
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: at fifteen sixteen, so you know, I I'm very comfortable

1066
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: in that element because it was a part of your culture.

1067
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: It is it is really a part of my culture.

1068
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I um, I remember also New York in

1069
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: the seventies, you know, because my we didn't know any better.

1070
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: My mom would let me run around, like I skated

1071
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: all over the city when I was in fourth grade alone,

1072
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, you couldn't do that now, but

1073
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, we all and people would, you know, the

1074
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: kids were carded to these parties, you know what I mean. No, no, no, no,

1075
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: not that bad. But I did go to the I

1076
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: mean I would have been seven, but but I did

1077
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: sneak into Peanuts and I remember it was so sexy

1078
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: and you know, like I thought, maybe I'm a little gay. Yeah,

1079
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: I think everyone's a little gay. Everyone's on the kinzie. Yes,

1080
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 1: I agree, but um, you know, I just I feel

1081
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: at home there. Wow. I mean this is start. A

1082
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: lot of our crew on Top Chef is actually really love.

1083
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Do you only get different crews in different seasons. No.

1084
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: In fact, we're like a very tight knit family. We

1085
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: do hire a lot of locals in each city, but

1086
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: there's a group, a core group of us. Like my

1087
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: stylist is gay, my makeup artist is gay, My um

1088
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: assistant on the show is gay, you know, And that's

1089
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: just like my little mini tribe with the larger structure

1090
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I get that from the show. It's weird,

1091
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: but I get like a gay thing from the show.

1092
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: A lot of the a lot of the chefs are

1093
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: come in in the require order and then and there's

1094
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: no What I think Top Chef has done that a

1095
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: lot of other reality competition shows I didn't used to

1096
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: do was that it didn't make They wouldn't make the

1097
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: queerness or the sexuality of its of its contestants like central.

1098
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't a central thing, yes, which I think is

1099
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: refreshing and even on Project Right, it doesn't matter, it

1100
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It matters, but not when cooking doesn't matter

1101
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: if you're a man or a woman. Yes, exactly when

1102
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: you're watching Project One Way two when you find out

1103
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: one of the designers is straight, and it's like, whoa,

1104
01:02:54,120 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: what you had to do that with the impedi men

1105
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: of like missing. In fact, I think one of the winners,

1106
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: one of the one one of the finalists, was like

1107
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: a straight man who was just like very European and shot.

1108
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: I did not realize he was until the end, and

1109
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: I was like Dmitri or something, but like I was like,

1110
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: but like he was like so talented, and I was like, okay,

1111
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: well you cantinue to open your mind. Man. Actually I

1112
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: three years later, but I'm almost like within pages of

1113
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: finishing um tinny easy between the world and me. It's

1114
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: so good, it's so I've inhaled it like I started yesterday,

1115
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: and it's great. It makes me want to have a kid.

1116
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: But also it's it's the suffused and tragedy and racial.

1117
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: It's so right, it's so succinctly and poetically beautiful, really

1118
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: renders the situation palpable. You know, I read all kinds

1119
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: of funky things. The other thing I read was The

1120
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: Year of Yes, Yes, Yes. I love a celebrity autobiography

1121
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: and even if they're like, oh my god, I roll.

1122
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: Like when I read Lena Dunham's a lot of page

1123
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: to page, I had a different opinion on it, but

1124
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: I love it because you get it. It's a true

1125
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: slice of life. It's true and like what I like

1126
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: about it is like it's someone telling their own story

1127
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: which speaks volumes. Yes you know what I mean, Yes, yes,

1128
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: it's true. It's like how important they think they are,

1129
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: like you know, definitely, how their take on the situations.

1130
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: Like I think that some of these different though Lena's

1131
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: book is a book of essays, and you know, it's

1132
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: different than a memoir looking back. The best memoir, one

1133
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: of the best memoirs I think ever written, is called

1134
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: The Liars Club by Mary Carr. She's a poet. I mean,

1135
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: you will, you'll love it. It feels like um Laura

1136
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: during movie like wild at Heart, Like it's just it's

1137
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: beautiful and it actually I think, you know, sent this

1138
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: kind of rebirth or this renaissance and memoir writing in

1139
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: this country like ten years ago whatever she's very talented.

1140
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: I I was. I love that book. It's one of

1141
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: my favorite books. Yeah. I like memoirs too, I really do.

1142
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: I there's if I know something's coming out, I'll always like,

1143
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: you know which one I really want to read? Which

1144
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: is old now? But I really want to read it

1145
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: because what Nia Ferris is great too. I'm sure. Oh,

1146
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure that one is rich. It's so rich. So

1147
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: is Jane Fondas. Did you based on the memoir just Talk?

1148
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was only me who like Sonic of

1149
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: my life in periods of the men I've hated. That

1150
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: was so phenomenal. We all do that. I mean after

1151
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: you get out of school, Like, what are the measure

1152
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: do you have? Structure? Just sor I'm a Dave, my Carlos,

1153
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: a Teddy. I'm I'm in my post Hansel phase right now.

1154
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,959
Speaker 1: Oh my God spoke his name whatever, Hancil. He's great.

1155
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting dinner with him on Thursday. We're going to

1156
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: hang still friends. No, we like. He Literally the day

1157
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: that he broke up with me, he was like, well,

1158
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm giving a talk tomorrow about transgender health. You should come.

1159
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that's too soon. Yeah, you

1160
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: have to just be you know, sometimes you just have

1161
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: to cut the finger off the sod my eye lived

1162
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: with my X after we broke up for seven more months.

1163
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking back and I was like, oh, I should

1164
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: have gotten out of there. Matt and Matt nurse to

1165
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: the finger, Matt polished, I put a new nail on

1166
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: the thing. Yes, yes, no, but yeah, you gotta. I'm

1167
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm taking my dating advice from Pad. Absolutely. Yeah, it's great.

1168
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: She's lived so many, so many and I love the hair,

1169
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: the different hairstyles. It wasn't that amazing? Amazing? The clute

1170
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: hairstyle is beyond and then the Barbarella. Yes, can we talk? Yes,

1171
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: we do? Forget how many, how how much icononography there

1172
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: is with Jane found in the Vietnam War, the Aerobic

1173
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: That was probably one of my first touchstones really, and

1174
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I was very very young, and I remember my mom

1175
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: buying it. Yeah, the Bunch of Steel, Yes, I think

1176
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: so we had that. Did you watch soap operas? Yes,

1177
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: all my children children, Erica Kane, Erica Caine. This is

1178
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: the first time, my first like touchstones of like womenhood, celebrity, idol, worship, fashion, hair.

1179
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean when I started watching Erica Caine. She had

1180
01:07:55,040 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: a full on bouffant. She was, but she was the

1181
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,959
Speaker 1: bitch goddess she was. She was the first, like fun

1182
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: to watch diva's And I think, like people like Susan

1183
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: Lucci is like a punchline now because of it, and

1184
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: was going to say, Susan Lucci is a part of culture.

1185
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: She was, yeah, well, Susan Lucci Eric but my mother one.

1186
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, she's nice. But other than the fact that

1187
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: she's a nice person, they're the same person in my mind.

1188
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: I met her, I thought I was going to shoot.

1189
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, she is even the

1190
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: fact that my immigrant mother kept up with all my children,

1191
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: like just says it was. I don't know what it

1192
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: was because and I don't know when the how I

1193
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: watched it except because I went to it. No, but

1194
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: it was on at one right even though I guess

1195
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: everyone or like you know, Columbus or whatever, because like

1196
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: I got sent to India every summer and my mother

1197
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: worked full time, so I don't know like when you could,

1198
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: but I knew enough like I would watch it, you know,

1199
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: every few weeks or months that I knew what the

1200
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: hell was going on, and husband seven or eight she

1201
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: ends up with husbands. It was fucking crazy. Yeah, there's

1202
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: just something. She had so many different lots and she

1203
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: was always want to watch and Susan she always played

1204
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: it for everything. It was worse. It was camp in

1205
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: the best way and just on and off the screen.

1206
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: It's like you keep up with the marriages. It's it's

1207
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: it's the Liz Taylor of it all. I also miss

1208
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, I missed the camp of television, right,

1209
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of it looked like it was

1210
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: going to come back with Empire, yes, and it kind

1211
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: of didn't didn't. It feels like it's still on and

1212
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: I like people still watch it, but it's not as

1213
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: like culturally powerful as it was the first reason she

1214
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: was fully doing that was such a juicy juice. Well

1215
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: that's what I saw glitter as. I saw it as camp,

1216
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: But I think we were all in a different movie,

1217
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: like I saw it as care But you know you

1218
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: were greatly that you singing, Yeah, it's so good, and

1219
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: I was actually because it's hard to sing bad. I

1220
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: mean I sing that normally, but it's hard to like

1221
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 1: trying to behind my mind, I was in a comedy.

1222
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: You know like I don't know. I think I think

1223
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: you were. So the moment that you walk into that

1224
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: dressing room, like that first scene, I was just like, well,

1225
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: like the way that you just back up, They're just

1226
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: back up. Yes, they won't matter, like like turn Soak down,

1227
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: turn Billy away, Oh my god, it's my life. But

1228
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: just the way that Patton walks into the dressing room

1229
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: with the manager, I'm just like that Howard. Of course,

1230
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that person knows the whole thing for me.

1231
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: Here's why I played that role the way I did.

1232
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: I think because you know I have I have lived

1233
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: my life until very recently very like in fear, not

1234
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: in fear, but I was really like insecure and felt

1235
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't belong and in timidated by everyone else

1236
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: in the room. And so I know how I perceived

1237
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: those people, and that's what I was playing. I was

1238
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: playing one of those people who had all the power.

1239
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: And it was so fun to experience what that was like,

1240
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, and to pretend at that can I ask

1241
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: you a character think about Silk? Yeah, do you think

1242
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: that Silk knew that Terrence Howard was using Maria's voice

1243
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: over her? And then she was in on it. She

1244
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we'll use this ghost voice. And I

1245
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: don't think she cared. She didn't care. She was just out.

1246
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: She didn't want to know the details. Just make me

1247
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: a fucking start. You heard it from the source herself.

1248
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: We've all been asking about what silk motivations. Honestly, that's

1249
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: how I played it. You know, there's another scene in

1250
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: there which sadly gets cut where you know, there's a

1251
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: fight that happens between Mariah and Max Beasley's actor. Yeah,

1252
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing in that movie either.

1253
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you couldn't find somebody from America within Like

1254
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: I love Maxi's you know, I used to live in London,

1255
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: so I know him a little bit. Great actor and

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: a great guy. But I was like, this is such

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: weird gasting. It's weird. They couldn't get like, yeah, it's weird.

1258
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: They couldn't get someone like like a McConaughey. It's actually

1259
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: he's doing Mary Mark drag, but the character was British.

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: The character was literally Mark. He came in and did

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: the whole mocky mock thing like they had a dialog

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: coach on there. I think, So I don't know if

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: it was for him, and there were a lot of

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01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: people on set, but I mean, and this was when

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: Maria was dating Louis Luis Miguel and you would see

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: there this is when people still use limousines. And maybe

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: I can tell you from having just seen her in

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: Goanas she uses it's like a black Okay, Well, these

1269
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: were the days of like those really long and they're

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: limousines like parked right next to each other. And then

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01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: he would go visit her in her trailer and they

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01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: would deliver pizza boxes to it, and then like half

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01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: an hour later, the pizza boxes would get thrown out

1274
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: of the door for like like whatever the ones that

1275
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: hadn't eaten here, you guys going to have the rest.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: She had the craziest boyfriends there and then Derek J. Jeter.

1277
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Did she go out with Derek Jeeter during the like

1278
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: butterfly eraw my all when that was a single, she was, well,

1279
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: Mariah and that's been in was my number one. They're

1280
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: all these holes in my popular And when I was

1281
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: not only working, but you know, I was sent back

1282
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: to India evere summer, so like when hair came out,

1283
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: I was not there for certain like Star Wars movies.

1284
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't like Star Wars. I mean, I don't not

1285
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: like Star Wars. Actually just come for you. Well my

1286
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: prerequisite white mail over there. But you know, like it's

1287
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: just it's weird, like you know, so they're all these

1288
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: holes in pockets. So I must have missed Derek Jeter

1289
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: and everyone was the fact that they were both bi racial.

1290
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: That was like a story in the news. But I

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: think they and then maybe even it was like something

1292
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: for one of them said like we understand each other

1293
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: because they're both super famous and also bi racial. But

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: that was like a thing or at least that my

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01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: ten year old brain to this day. Um, maybe it

1296
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: was just some disc jockey talking about it. But Mariah

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: was my number one. Like when I was a little kid,

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: I would play the Butterfly album out and so did

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01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: say You've got me feeling emotion. That was so that

1300
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: was But this was like once I started to actually

1301
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: like music. It was like nineties seven and I I

1302
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: love that Butterfly album and so she was like at

1303
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: the height for me when later came out. So literally PANDMA.

1304
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: On the day of nine eleven, my mother pulled me

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01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: out of school because of what was happening. We lived

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: in Long Island, and I was like and I was like,

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: are you taking me out? Because you know how excited

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: I am to get the Glitter album. My mom was like, no, um,

1309
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: something happened in the city and I don't want you

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 1: in school. I want you home with me. And I

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: was like, well, we have to go get the Glitter album.

1312
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm so I've been so excited for September eleven one

1313
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: because that's the day that Glitter is coming out. And

1314
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: she was like, I think it's going to be closed, babe,

1315
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: and I was like no, and I freaked out. I

1316
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: said we have to go to the Tower Records and

1317
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: literally four literally, so I was like, I was like whatever.

1318
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: I was like, we must go. She was like, you

1319
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: don't understand. It's not going to be open. I was like,

1320
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: if you don't take me, I'm gonna freak out. So

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01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: then she took me to the store. The workers at

1322
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: the store were like, we are not We're gonna go home?

1323
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? My mom was like, just give me

1324
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: because like it's just gonna make anything for everyone. And

1325
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: we got it. And so, while like everyone was dealing

1326
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: with that day, I was listening to like you that

1327
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: freaking thing. It's a it's very good front to back.

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: I love that ship. Yes, just like just like how

1329
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: my coming to New York story has pad mr fused

1330
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: in it. You're nine eleven story, but I'm deep in

1331
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: it in it, let me tell you. And I actually

1332
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw them in theaters just because eleven,

1333
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: but I had the album and I still think hashtag

1334
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: Justice for Glitter just like it's true. Like I you know,

1335
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: one of my most proud things. There's this ice cream place,

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: um called the Big a ice Cream Yeah we know, okay, well, um,

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: one year for Balance, I say, they asked if they

1338
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: could do my recipe and all of their soft serve

1339
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: machine Oh my god, Rose pedal and they did a

1340
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: card of him one it's your recipe. Yeah, yeah, from

1341
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: one of my books. It was such a huge thing

1342
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: that I told like all my family. They were like

1343
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: all my friends. I think I sent like a general

1344
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: email like hey everybody, I don't even tell them when

1345
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm like on the Today Shop, I was like, there's

1346
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: this ice cream store in the village and I made

1347
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: them make I was like, you don't need have to

1348
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: pay me, just give me, like make me a cake

1349
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: for Christiana's birthday, because her birthday February. And I was

1350
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: so happy because the only other person they have done

1351
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: that with at the time was be Arthur, because they

1352
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: do the Golden Girls stuff. They have all the Golden

1353
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: Girl's characters, and I have made it. Now. Maybe that's

1354
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: the title of m I can't let go of this

1355
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: thing that hadn't I said earlier where she was like,

1356
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: because like what the culture that you take in defines

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01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: who you are. It's how you express yourself. And I

1358
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: think that is like, I think that is why you

1359
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: are so so well liked, well respected, is because you

1360
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 1: take in so much. You've you've processed so many different

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01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: things from different areas and fields, and that that just

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01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: makes you a complete person in other people's eyes. I mean,

1363
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: people come at you with respect but also re relatability

1364
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: in this way that is so balanced and so so

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: comforting and so wonderful. UM, so thank you for coming on.

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't think so hunt Yes, which is

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01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: our segment. That's UM Birth Many a live show. We

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01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: are going on tour and you can buy tickets UM online.

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: We're on sale now. We're going to be in Portland, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Vancouver for JFL, Dallas, Austin, fer Moon Tower, Houston,

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Speaker 1: d C, Boston, and Philly. So all those city used

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: and probably more going to be added. We're very excited.

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01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be February through April and we're gonna be

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: doing I don't think so honey live. So now it's

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey for one minute to rant

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: against something in culture. Can I ask you when you're

1377
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna be oh April nineteen for south By South but

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: not for south By But things could happen when we

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: happen where we go. Um yeah, if work, let's up,

1380
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: I will definitely if work, let's up, let's up, let's up. Yeah, yeah,

1381
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: you know how they let up? It was this thing

1382
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: after I did our comedy show at ascat TV. Yeah.

1383
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: I loved it so much. I love them so much

1384
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: the last time because I did improv with them years

1385
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: and years ago. I remember them, yes, and as part

1386
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: of this like you know thing because they were on

1387
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: because they did show that. This was like way back

1388
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant and I had a car toon

1389
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: on my way there, so like CV since then, but

1390
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, it was so cool. Yeah. They

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: had to do storytelling you monologues and stuff, and then

1392
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: they improvised so fun. You're the perfect estra that I

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: wanted to improvise with them, he liked. Of him, Oh

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: my god, an improp star. Yeah. Okay, so Matt, Matt

1395
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: and I will go first that we have pad Matt,

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01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: and then we'll close out. I have a good one,

1397
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: you have a good one. Here. This is Matt Rodgers

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: is I don't think so, honey, and his time starts

1399
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: and now I don't think so honey. Anyone who says, oh,

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't know celebrities, like that's supposed to be a

1401
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: good thing to impress me that you don't care about

1402
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: pop culture. I'm specifically talking honey to my lift driver

1403
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 1: in l A, who was the chattiest of them all,

1404
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: and you know they get chatty on the lifts, and

1405
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: l A, who said to me after I got out

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: of a podcast, said what were you doing? I said,

1407
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: I was on a podcast where I talked about pop culture.

1408
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,879
Speaker 1: He says, oh, I don't know celebrities. And then somehow

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck gets brought up and he all of a

1410
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: sudden has a big opinion on Casey Afflet and Manchester

1411
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: by the Sea. And I'm like, okay, so if you

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01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: don't know celebrities, why the hell well do you have

1413
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: an opinion on Casey Affleck and this niche ass movie.

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01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. It's because you only said

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01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: that to try to impress, because it's the straight male

1416
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: thing that's like heater thing, like, wow, we're too cool

1417
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: for pop culture. If you think you're too cool to

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the world, I have another

1419
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: thing coming for you, honey. I don't think so, Honey,

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: you know about Casey Affleck, you know about culture. Stop

1421
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: lying to me bit and oh my god, spirited. I

1422
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do this is I don't

1423
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: think when you were talking about what were you talking about?

1424
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: Just you got fired up about nachos, about the movie

1425
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: theater Nachos? I did, But I think I have something better. So,

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: but but can you believe I can't believe you think

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01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: it's like cool. Celebrities doesn't mean pop cultures exactly. Pop

1428
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: culture is so much more than celebrities to do with people.

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: I hate that word celebrity too, because everyone's a celebrity,

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, everyone is. That's the problem. That's like five

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: minutes and their celebrity. I mean, Matt. I like to

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: say people of note people, but I will say Twitter

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01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: and Instagram, thank you for my new blue check. Got

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: you got blue check on Twitter too? Yes, congrats, thank

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: you thing. You probably been verified since the age of one,

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01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: so you don't even care started started last. I was

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: born before Twitter. My fame was born before Twitter and

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: the verified life. Okay, so this is Bowen Yanks. I

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And as time starts now, I

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01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. White elephant, honey, this is the

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Christmas season, do not Yes, white elephants are structurally flawed.

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: It's for the fact that other people can steal. Is

1443
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: just crushes people's dreams. And I am all for a

1444
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: secret Santa with no cap, with no price cap. It

1445
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: just means as long as everyone's coming in with the

1446
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: understanding that it's not about the price of the gift,

1447
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: it's about what, you know what, the sentimentality of it,

1448
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: the feeling of it. Whatever. I think white elephant is

1449
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: study sexually insane. I was just part of the New

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: York Magazine strategist Celebrity White elephant gift exchange. I got

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: gorgeous a bars locks um from someone. It was great.

1452
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's locks so I'll eat it vacuum

1453
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: had they'll ship it to me in a box. I

1454
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: just think gift exchanges should be I think, I think

1455
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: out with white elephant just Secret Santa's Only. White elephant

1456
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: is crazy. It's not personal, it's randomized five seconds not personal.

1457
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: It's literally impersonal and therefore Secret Santas only. I'm a

1458
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 1: purist at heart. That's my minute, and that's one minute.

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01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you. The white elephant thing is crazy

1460
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: because if I if I was given a gift, I like,

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: the gift is support and I didn't know if I

1462
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 1: have too much champagne for the mind, A grateful for

1463
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: the ground, so grateful for the champions, I don't know.

1464
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't like white elephants. I don't like Secret Santa's either.

1465
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, gifts should only be given when

1466
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: really felt like there's a reason to give a gift.

1467
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: We don't. In my family. We only give gifts to

1468
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,799
Speaker 1: the kids. And everyone wants to know, you know, Christian

1469
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: wants and I'm like, she doesn't need anything about their

1470
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:28,839
Speaker 1: pants which she keeps looking. And she's a New Yorker.

1471
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: She wants to become a pop star. She does, and

1472
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: she will become when yet Yes, all right, listen, this

1473
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: is Poma. I don't think so, honey. And your time

1474
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: starts now. Okay, did you steal that from me when

1475
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: time starts now? Because that's what I mean. Sure, let's

1476
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: say we did. We still your time starts now, we'll

1477
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: say let's say, yes, we still love from you. But

1478
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: all you have to do is say I don't think so, honey,

1479
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: and go for you steal this from us? Ready, and

1480
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: your time starts now? I don't think so, honey. I

1481
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: have to tell you what I really get upset about is, um,

1482
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: I've been getting a little bit of slut shamming fan mail,

1483
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: which I guess is not I almost posted one of

1484
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: these letters, but then I was like, you know what,

1485
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to but I got three. You know,

1486
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: the show started two weeks ago, so we've had two

1487
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: episodes on air, and after the first episode I got

1488
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: a letter about you know how I was wearing something

1489
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: too provocative and I was like, what the hell. First

1490
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: of all, they're like, you know, the show is not

1491
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: about you it's about the chefs. I'm like, well, then,

1492
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: why are you talking about my nipples? I don't think. Yes,

1493
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: it's just like you're the one fixated on them. I

1494
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: am not. And I like to dress the way I

1495
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: like to dress. And by the way, I thought everybody

1496
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: had nipples seconds, Okay, I really don't understand that. And

1497
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I can be a

1498
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: feminist and show my nipples too, And I don't think

1499
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: it's fair that you boys get to show your nipples

1500
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and I'm not showing my nipples anyway. And I don't

1501
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: think one minute quote unquote fan mail unbelievable. And also there,

1502
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not about the look, but the hat

1503
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:19,879
Speaker 1: that you were Television is a visual medium and otherwise

1504
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: it's a stainless steel kitchen, and most people in coats

1505
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: chef coats, you know what I mean. Like, I like

1506
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: to dress the way I like to dress. Like like,

1507
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: it's not about your clothes. I'm like, that's right, So

1508
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: I can dress how I want. I'm at in the

1509
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: kitchen cooking, but that fascinator was happulous. I was going

1510
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: to say, I was going to compliment the fascinator that

1511
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: look so chic. That was such a good triumph. Albert

1512
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: did a great job that day. That was a Brandon

1513
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 1: Maxwell Maxwell Designer jumpsuit. And you know, we tried everything.

1514
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: We tried band aids, we tried silicone. Also, our friend

1515
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Dave wants us to tell you it was important to

1516
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: him that we tell you that you were a ponytail.

1517
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: That fucking slay it for him. Thank you want. The

1518
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: only thing I could think of was like, oh, I

1519
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: have great hair this season. I have like yeah, yeah,

1520
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: my girlfriend Genie Genie who is my hairdresser on the show,

1521
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: she also does me, you know in New York. Whenever

1522
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I've read carpet or what if she's fantastic, we just

1523
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: get bored. Yes, I'm like, I don't know, funck it.

1524
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 1: Let's you know, like all the way to the floor. Yeah, yeah,

1525
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: we have done like you're going to see there's the

1526
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: twenties episode like episode it's a great Bellman dress and

1527
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: a real like Louise Brooks BG. Yeah, it's beautiful and

1528
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: it's just like it gets you know, we've been doing

1529
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: the show for a long time. Like I said, it's

1530
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: like an old marriage. So this woman was like, I

1531
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: know it really affected me. I was honestly, like really

1532
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: upset for two days because she said I'm ashamed to

1533
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: watch the show with my teenage and I was like,

1534
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: I really took it her personally because you know, I

1535
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: have a daughter, so and i find myself on top

1536
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: Shop being one of the few things you can watch

1537
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: with all your family, and I'm just like, you know,

1538
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: we're going over no no, And I just felt like,

1539
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think I've done my share for for

1540
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: the ladies, you know, as far as fighting, Like I

1541
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: was like, I was so mad. You know, I think

1542
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: we also we have such a weird relationship to sexuality

1543
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and naturalness. You know that we've forgotten, we've forgotten that

1544
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a normal part of life. But also but

1545
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: not not that, not that the conversation should even be

1546
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: about sexuality in that moment, because it's not. I watched

1547
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: those I've watched episodes where I'm like, oh, Padma looks nice,

1548
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: great and what about the food. I mean, it can

1549
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: coexist in this space way. People are not just one thing.

1550
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: We're all layered, complicated, multifaceted, dimensional human being, multitudinous people.

1551
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: And it's what Matt said that speaks more that's her

1552
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: issue and has nothing to do with you. And also

1553
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but there probably is something to do with

1554
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: the fact that, like, like, but when when certain women

1555
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: wear certain things, people are outraged and if Taylor Swift,

1556
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: where is that ship all the time? And it is

1557
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: about women of color, and it is about women with

1558
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: certain body types when they were certain things, like when

1559
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: they were alter tops, etcetera. It's a fucking scandal. Meanwhile, literally,

1560
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: they're not wearing anything different than a lot of other women.

1561
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: So it's like, seriously, sit and spin and I don't

1562
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 1: think so honey, that woman and she's not sending a

1563
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: good example for her daughter. Also, I think I'm judged

1564
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: much more harshly now than I was when I was

1565
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: younger because I have spoken out about women's issues. It's like,

1566
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, for certain people, I can't be a serious

1567
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: thinker or somebody who you know stands for these things

1568
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: but also likes to look good in a bikini, like

1569
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, can coexist and do coexist, and they will

1570
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: continue to exist. They are This was the episode. I

1571
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: had so much fun and this is so great. I

1572
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: feel like if I'm oh, wait, what we have to

1573
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: ask you? What did you do Union Square last. Oh

1574
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god, Yes, thank you for asking.

1575
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I I got the biggest sugar rush of my life.

1576
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: I felt like Daffy Deaf for the rest of the day.

1577
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I hosted and judged this holiday bake off Kellogg's. So

1578
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I go to the Union Square green Market and I

1579
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: go there like twice a week to buy whatever vegetables

1580
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: and brand and stuff. And I always saw this little

1581
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: Kellogg's logo across the street by Barnes and No when

1582
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is that? And I

1583
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: actually thought it was like their corporate headquarters. It's actually

1584
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: a cafe you go into and it has like a

1585
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: cereal bar, like sixteen handles like all of that. That's

1586
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: my dreams, WiFi and their couches. It's like, you know

1587
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Central Perk from friends. That's really a cereal bar. It's

1588
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: really funny. Anyway, they reached out to me and they

1589
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: asked me to do this, and I was like, yeah, sure, okay,

1590
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: And so these four finalists had to make a dessert

1591
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: using any Kellogg's product cereal at least Kellogg's cereal in

1592
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 1: their holiday dessert. And so I did that just a

1593
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: couple of days ago and the winning dish was this

1594
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: amazing pear and very frosted flakes tart, and she won

1595
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: because she did this genius thing. First of all, she

1596
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: ground up the frosted flakes and use them in the

1597
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 1: crust of the tart. And also like these short red

1598
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: star cookies that she used to decorate powdered sugar. But

1599
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: she also made the cream custard with um Kellogg's frosted

1600
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: flakes soaked in the heavy cream until they got super

1601
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: soggy for twenty minutes, then strained it, then use that

1602
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: so you have cereal milk flavored custard under the fruit,

1603
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: which is sliced razor thin with nothing but a pairing knife.

1604
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: She didn't Madaline. No Mandoline, I asked her because I

1605
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 1: was like these you are really o c D. And

1606
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. That's amazing beautiful. You can you

1607
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: go on the red side if you want to. If

1608
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: you have a death bullish and want to reproduce this,

1609
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: we have to go to this. I think we gotta go.

1610
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: I will meet you there on Monday. When's your Friday? Now?

1611
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: The market isn't on Tuesday and Thursday. Usually they're between

1612
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: eleven thirty and twelve thirty love that will buy Our

1613
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: preserves are bread and then well, oh my god, there's

1614
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: such good preserves. They have a chili jam, which is

1615
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: the hottest fire hell have an arrow jam. It loves

1616
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: so delicious. Try chili jam on toast with peanut butter.

1617
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: You will die A spice spicy queen. I mean different

1618
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: than hot hot. No, no, no, I like it hot.

1619
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean now, I like like. I can't take it

1620
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: as hot because my digestive tech has really taken a

1621
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: beating from from sixteen seasons, so I have to be,

1622
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, a little mindful of that. But I still

1623
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I love making hot sauces at home. I love making chutney's.

1624
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm a big condiment girl, because if you have good

1625
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: condiments in the first you can just fling a dollar

1626
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: something in a frying pan, grilled some fish or chicken thigh,

1627
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, will some spinach in the pan, juices. And

1628
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I actually am so thrilled that we did not do

1629
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 1: the grilled cheese thing, because I don't want you to

1630
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: judge me making food. It is not up to tell

1631
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: you something. I don't want to talk about that first lady, badly,

1632
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: but I don't want to. I don't want to do

1633
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama because I love her and worship the girl

1634
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and she walks on. But I read the preface of

1635
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: her autobiography, Becoming, and I almost it was like nails

1636
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: on a chalkboard that I was reading that Michelle Obama

1637
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: microwave to grilled cheese, and I was like, no, I

1638
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: just care about her image. Just fine. But I was

1639
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: just like, no, girl, let me show you the way.

1640
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: This is an opportunity. It's an opportunity for you to

1641
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: just to just strike up a relationship with her where

1642
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: you show her the way. Oh. I do have to

1643
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: ask Patma, have you seen this video that's this old

1644
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: clip from Oprah speaking of Oprah where this woman. Yes,

1645
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: I posted it. I know what you're talking about. The

1646
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: million dollars million dollar chicken thing. I think it's so funny.

1647
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I used it as a meme's so because I would

1648
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: have been I think the same thing so many times

1649
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: in a day. And the thing is, I thank God

1650
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: and we have to end on that now. Oh my god, Padma,

1651
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. The show is

1652
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 1: top chef. I mean, you know what, you love it

1653
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: and you know Padma, you love Padma, Um. I want

1654
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: you to listen to my memoir. I really do. I

1655
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 1: mean I'm going to. And you said becoming And actually

1656
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that my mother got me

1657
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: becoming for Christmas, but I would imagine she is. Um. Well, anyway,

1658
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: we'll close out with the song as we all is?

1659
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Do you know you will? Here we go? Here, we

1660
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 1: got myself a lover come every times, good daddy, There's

1661
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: wherever where we go with Delirium Sime. This has been

1662
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Bahum, Joe Cilio,

1663
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit Forever

1664
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows on

1665
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:46,160
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