1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Garen Moscow. Here are the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: We begin with a policy in China that has broad 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: implications for the global tech sector. Beijing plans to expand 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: its ban on Apple iPhone use in sensitive government departments 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: and state owned companies. Sources say several agencies are already 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: instructing staff not to bring iPhones to work. The restrictions 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: may broad into more firms and organizations. Bloomberg Chief Tech 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: correspondent Mark German says, this may just be a starting 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: point for the Chinese government. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: Is there something that's going to happen next in terms 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: of the Chinese consumer being able to buy the Apple devices? 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Are there going to be limits? There is the Chinese 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: government going to begin clamping down on Apple's ability to sell, 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: offer services, offer retail stores, offer Apple care and support. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: So there clearly is a potential domino effect that I 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: think investors are more afraid of, rather than just lost 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: sales to Chinese government workers. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: And Bloomberg's Mark German says the blockade coincides with China's 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: effort to reduce its reliance on American software. Apple is 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: popular in China. It gets about a fifth of its 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: revenue there. Checking Apple shares in the pre market, they 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: are down two point six percent. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: Well elsewhere in tank This morning, Nathan Google is making 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: a move aimed at protecting elections from artificial intelligence. In 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Aid Baxter has the story. 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: Google is saying it will soon require all election advertisers 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: disclosed when their messages have been altered or created by 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: AI tools. The policy update, which applies starting mid November, 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: requires election advertisers across Google's platforms to alert viewers when 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: their ads contain images, video, or audio from generative AI. 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: They will have to use prominent language like this audio 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: as computer generated or this image does not depict real events. 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: Google says it will improve transparency. In San Francisco, I'm 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Okay, ed, thank you. President Biden's headed to the G 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: twenty summit in India later this afternoon. He's aiming to 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: seize on the absence of two key adversaries. Russian President 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Shi Jinping both opted to 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: skip this year's gathering. President Biden will look to improve 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: ties with countries like Brazil, South Africa and India. They've 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: sought closer ties with China and declined to take sides 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: Well back here at home, Nathan, Texas is teetering on 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: the edge of blackout. It's the state's power grade operator 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: ERKAD issued its first emergency declaration in over two years 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: in response to shrinking power supplies. Spot power prices surged 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: to more than five thousand dollars a megawatt hour, quadruple 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: the cost of the average supply Urkatt had to draw 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: on reserves, and officials are urging customers to take conservation efforts. 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: Texas is also warning medically fragile residents who need oxygen 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: and similar aids to have backup plans in place. 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: In the nation's capital, Karen, the Justice Department plans to 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: file new charges against President Biden's son, Hunter Bloomberg's Nancy 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Lyons has that story. 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: An indictment of Hunter Biden is expected by the end 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 5: of the month. That's according to documents filed in a 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 5: Delaware court by Special counsel David Weiss. The son of 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: President Biden had agreed in principle to plead guilty to 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 5: federal tax charges and enter a pre trial diversion agreement 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 5: related to a gun charge, but that plea deal collapse 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: back in July. Prosecutors have not specified what charges they 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 5: intend to file against the President's son, Nancy lyons Bloomberg Radio. 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Right, Nancy, thanks for a strike warning from the head 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: of the United Auto Workers. Bloombergy. John Tucker joins us 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: with the latest. Good Morning, John Karen. 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 6: President Sean fains as the union plans to go on 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 6: strike against any Detroit automaker that hasn't reached a new 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 6: agreement by the time contracts expire next week. The contracts 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 6: with General Motors, Delantis, and Ford will all expire just 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 6: before midnight September fourteenth. All in, the union's proposals would 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: cost each of the big three automakers around eighty billion dollars. 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: The union will meet today with GM Forward made an 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 6: offer that includes nine percent wage increases plus payments. Those 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 6: talks are farthest along. An agreement with one automaker likely 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: would set the template for the others. Live in New York. 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: All right, John, Thanks, you got more company news this morning. 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Sources tell Bloomberg the online grocery delivery startup Instacart is 81 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: preparing to set a price range for its initial public offering. 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett has that the. 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 7: Sources say the company is considering pricing it's listing September nineteenth, 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 7: and then start trading the following day. They say the 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 7: company's plans are fluid and the timeline could still change 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 7: depending on market conditions. Instacart's listing could further energize an 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 7: IPO market that has been warming and fits and starts. 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 7: Semiconductor designer ARM Holding set a price range for its IPO, 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 7: which is expected to start trading in the biggest listing 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 7: of the year as early as next week in New York. 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 7: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: All right, Charlie, thanks to the Broader Economy Now. The 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: ism US Services Index rose to a six month high yesterday, 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: but stocks declined amid speculation the strong data will keep 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: rates higher for longer. Bloomberg Macros trateg just Mark Hudmore 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: says evidence from yesterday's Major Book suggests the Fed's rate 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: hike path remains uncertain. 98 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 8: I thought the most important dedies was actually the Beige 99 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 8: Book which says backward looking, there's been some good stuff 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 8: from the tourism and leisure sector, but the rest of 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 8: the report was presenting warning signs about the consumer. I 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 8: still believe that US softness is coming in the fourth quarter, 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 8: and I think we're going to have a recession still 104 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 8: starting around the end of the fourth quarter. Maybe a 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 8: dirty next year, but I still go for the end 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 8: of this year. 107 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: And it's time now for a look at some of 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: the other stories making news around the world. For that, 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: we're joined by Bloomberg. See Me, Morris, Save Me, Good morning. 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 9: Good morning, Karen. The Senate is going to start moving 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 9: a package of government funding bills next week, as Congress 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 9: is racing to avoid a shutdown at the end of 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 9: this month. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says he appreciates 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 9: the support that he's seen from President Biden. 115 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 7: He is supporting the uffard and I intend to continue 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 7: to support it. 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 6: I hope the majority of my colleagues will field the 118 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 6: same way. 119 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 9: Now, the President and congressional leaders are focused on a 120 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 9: passage of a stop gap funding measure to buy a 121 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 9: little time while lawmakers iron out a full budget. Time 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 9: is running short though the House is scheduled to meet 123 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 9: for only eleven days before the government's fiscal year ends 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 9: on September thirtieth. It was the first televised hearing in 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 9: former President Trump's election interference case in Georgia. Fulton County 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 9: Judge Scott McAfee laid out how these hearings involving the 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 9: nineteen co defendants are going to move forward. 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 10: The plan would be to try to resolve as many 129 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 10: of these issues as we can this week and to 130 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 10: begin entering scheduling orders for the remaining defendants by either 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 10: the end of this week or the early next week. 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 11: Now. 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 9: Judge McAfee denied a motion for one of Trump's co defendants, 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 9: lawyer Kenneth Cheesebro, to sever his case. He said he 135 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 9: would later decide on whether lawyer Sidney Powell would severhears. 136 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 9: Prosecutors expect a joint trial to take four months. Former 137 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 9: President Trump, meanwhile, says he's willing to take the witness 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 9: stand in his own defense if his criminal cases do 139 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 9: go to trial. He told a radio interview that he 140 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 9: would absolutely look forward to testifying, but he also said 141 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 9: he believes the cases are going. 142 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 12: To be dismissed. 143 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 9: The former president has pleaded not guilty in four cases 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 9: against him in New York, Georgia, Florida, and Washington, d C. 145 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 9: The oppressive heat still impacting millions of Americans, and schools 146 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 9: this week in New England to scramble to get air 147 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 9: conditioning in classrooms. In Philadelphia, officials announcing schools that don't 148 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 9: have air conditioning are going to be dismissed early for 149 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 9: the rest of this week. Englewood Health EMS medical director 150 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 9: doctor Barbara Streedman says children are among the most at 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 9: risk in the heat. Children have a different physiology than adults, 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 9: and the very young and the very old don't tolerate 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 9: heat as well, especially when the humidity is higher. More 154 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 9: than fifty million people have been under heat alerts all 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 9: week in the US, from Minnesota to Texas to Massachusetts. 156 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 9: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by more 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 9: than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in more than 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 9: one hundred twenty countries. I'm Amy Morris. This is Bloomberg. 159 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: Karen, all right, thank you. Now we get a look 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: at sports and they Brian John Stashauer. John, good morning, Karen. 161 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 12: It's opening night of the NFL. Not surprising. The Kansas 162 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 12: City Chiefs are in the spotlight of the defending Super 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 12: Bowl champions. They've won seven straight AFC West titles. They've 164 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 12: played the NFC Championship Game each of the last five years. 165 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 12: It is surprising for the Detroit Lions to be featured, 166 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 12: usually an NFL doormat, but they finished last season winning 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 12: eight of their last ten games. Chiefs may not have 168 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 12: their start tight end Travis Kelsey. He's questionable with a 169 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 12: knee injury. The forty nine ers have gotten their star 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 12: pass rusher Nick Bosa back in camp. He ended his 171 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 12: forty four day holdout agreed to a massive contract with 172 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 12: the Niners five years, one hundred and seventy million. Posta 173 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 12: becomes the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. At 174 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 12: the US Open Arena, Sablanki another easy victory. She has 175 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 12: yet to lose a set. She's advanced of the semifinals. 176 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 12: She's been in the semis of all four Grand Slam 177 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 12: this year. Coco Goff has her semifinal match in New 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 12: York today and the men's semis will be played tomorrow. 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 12: Danil Medvedev advanced with a straight set win over fellow 180 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 12: Russian Andre rub Levin. Last night, Carlos Alcarez, the top 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 12: seed independent champ, also won in straight sets. Baseball Red 182 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 12: Sox lost again at Tampa Bay, three to one. They've 183 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 12: lost fifteen of sixteen. At Tropiccanafield, the Nationals rally scored 184 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 12: nineteen ety to beat the Mets three to two. The 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 12: Orioles fifth straight win was ten to three over the Angels. 186 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 12: The Giants beaten by the Cubs eight to two. Rare 187 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 12: win for the Eights five to two over Toronto. John 188 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 12: stashaware of Bloomberg Sports. 189 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 13: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 13: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on siriusxam, the Bloomberg Business 191 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 13: app in Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 192 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 7: Good morning. 193 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hagar. Apple's business in China is getting a 194 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: lot more complicated. We've reported this week that the Chinese 195 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: government is barring its workers from using their iPhones while 196 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they're on the job. Now, sources tell Bloomberg News that 197 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: band could be extended to state owned businesses and other 198 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: government controlled enterprises. It's a move that could erode Apple's 199 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: position in its biggest market outside the US and for 200 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: more on this, we're joined by Alex Webb, who covers 201 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: the tech sector for US here on Bloomberg Radio. Alex, 202 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: good morning. Why this push now to crack down on 203 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: iPhones specifically in China. I mean, it wasn't that long 204 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: ago that the CEO of Apple, Tim Cook, was praising 205 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: his company's relationship with Beijing. 206 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, and of course you know Apple employs millions of 207 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 11: people both directly and indirectly, well Indre Lismos through Fox 208 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 11: Gone another contract manufacturers in that part of the world, 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 11: So there is a real kind of symbiotic relationship between 210 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 11: the country and the company. But it sort of looks 211 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 11: like we don't entirely know the rationale for this. It 212 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 11: is based on sources reporting. It looks like there could 213 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 11: be two reasons for it versus the sort of tit 214 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 11: for tap. We've seen obviously a crackdown on the supply 215 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 11: of some important components into the Chinese market. We've also 216 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 11: seen the US ban the use of TikTok in government agencies. 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 11: This is on a state level at the moment, but 218 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 11: it's been the case in many states where TikTok is 219 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 11: not allowed to operate on government networks. But at the 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 11: same time you also want to well, maybe they can 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 11: justify it through security reasons that actually in state controlled 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 11: or state agencies, we have started to see a pushback 223 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 11: on the role of for instance, consultants, and do they 224 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 11: have an outsized role because of their proximity to foreign groupings. 225 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 11: There are many reasons why this might be the case. 226 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 11: That doesn't necessarily mean that it's significant for Apple itself. 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: And it is interesting to think about it potentially as 228 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: a national security rationale for China when we've heard US 229 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: government officials use that same rationale to try to limit 230 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: China's access to cutting edge technology, how is China doing 231 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to its own development of some of 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: that higher end technology despite US sanctions. 233 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 11: So we did see some really interesting news in the 234 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 11: past week or so that Huawei, which is the biggest 235 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 11: Chinese hardware maker technology hardware maker, has released a new 236 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 11: phone called the Mate sixty Pro, which includes a chip 237 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 11: that can operate very close to the cutting edge. It's 238 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 11: built on the advanced seven nanometer, an advanced nanometer processor, which, 239 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 11: it seems, according to Bloomberg tear Down, has been manufactured 240 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 11: by China's domestic chip making giant Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 11: Which is their equivalent of TSMC, is not quite as big, 242 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 11: but that's their effort to really on shore and more 243 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 11: of that. CORTEC themselves and many people didn't think that 244 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 11: China have these capabilities. The fact that it seems they 245 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 11: do is a turn up for the books. Now it's 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 11: a caveat to this. We don't know where they're able 247 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 11: to do it at scale, where they can do it 248 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 11: with the sort of it's getting to make the economics 249 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 11: work in the same way that TSMC can, but it 250 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 11: shows they're a bit closer to the cutting edge than 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 11: many had anticipated. 252 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Well, if China does continue to get closer to the 253 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: cutting edge and keep up this crackdown on Apple devices, 254 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: what could it mean for Apple's position in the Chinese market. 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 11: Well, I mean, it clearly doesn't help, but you just 256 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 11: put it in a bit of context. Right, So Apple 257 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 11: had has trailing twelve month revenue in the order of 258 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 11: seventy three billion dollars in Greater China, which also includes Taiwan. 259 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 11: But when we've looked at what has happened with say 260 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 11: TikTok in the US and the crackdown and using that 261 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 11: in government agencies doesn't really seem to have had any 262 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 11: meaningful impact on TikTok's trajectories. So yes, these government controlled companies, 263 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 11: the likes of Petro China, they do employ millions of people. 264 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 11: Let's wait and see when we get to earn his 265 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 11: schools to see if that actually has any meaningful impact. 266 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 11: If you judge it by the TikTok experience, the implication 267 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 11: would be it may not be significant. 268 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Our last minute, we're waiting and seeing for Apple's next 269 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: product launch as well. I think it's coming up next week? 270 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 13: Right? 271 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Does that put more pressure on Apple to deliver when 272 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: it comes to what's coming next? 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 11: Look, there's always pressure on Apple in terms of what 274 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 11: comes next. The thing they have managed to do we 275 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 11: are going to see you, So they are going to 276 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 11: We're going to see new iPhones lightly next week and 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 11: probably in new Apple Watch as well. But the big 278 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 11: story of Apple is how they have managed to diversify 279 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 11: away from the hardware into services, which not only is 280 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 11: higher margin, but it also ties people more tightly to 281 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 11: their hardware, and that is why people still keep buying 282 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 11: these things even without major upgrades. 283 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak today. 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