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Speaker 2: after four o'clock. It seems like Elon Musk is the

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Speaker 2: only news story in America. Whatever he's doing, whatever he's saying,

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Speaker 2: because you know what, in most people's lifetimes, I think

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Speaker 2: virtually everyone's lifetime, we've never seen anybody seriously try to

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Speaker 2: cut all the wasteful government spending, all the criminal fraud

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Speaker 2: that goes on. We all know what goes on, and

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Speaker 2: everybody always promises to do something about it. And I've

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Speaker 2: been hearing a lot of numbers in these various news stories,

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Speaker 2: but you don't want that sticks in my mind. Every

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Speaker 2: three months, we add another trillion dollars in debt in

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Speaker 2: this country, federal debt, federal government a trillion dollars every

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Speaker 2: three months. And that's if everything's going right. There's no

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Speaker 2: economic recession that cuts tax revenues every three months. There's

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Speaker 2: no like COVID lockdown that that screws up the economy.

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Speaker 2: So that's four trillion dollars a year. At the moment,

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Speaker 2: we have thirty six trillion in debt, and then by

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Speaker 2: the end of the year it'll be forty trillion, and

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Speaker 2: then the year after that forty four trillion. And you know,

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Speaker 2: these things get bigger and bigger and bigger, and I

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Speaker 2: there's so much screaming going on over what Musk is doing.

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Speaker 2: Mostly it's the whack job progressives, but the media is

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Speaker 2: amplifying all the protests and very few are taking the

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Speaker 2: time to say, well, something's got to be done here, right.

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Speaker 2: Do you know twenty percent of our budget goes to

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Speaker 2: pay for the interest on the debt. It's over a

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Speaker 2: trillion dollars. Over a trillion dollars of our tax money

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Speaker 2: just pays the interest on what we borrowed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's astonishingly bad management. And it's been going on for

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Speaker 2: decades under both Republicans and Democrats, no matter who controlled Congress.

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Speaker 2: Or the Senate or the presidency. It's been, it's been.

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Speaker 2: They've all been just incompetent, irresponsible, stupid boobs. And now

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Speaker 2: we're finding out then nobody knows where the money went.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to do an audit.

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Speaker 2: But as Musk said yesterday, it's like you look at

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Speaker 2: the line items as to let's say, you know, there

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Speaker 2: went out to some agency, some program, whatever. There's there's

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Speaker 2: there's supposed to be a second box where you put

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Speaker 1: Type of spending it is.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly what the codes are and

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Speaker 2: and people in government know what the code means.

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Speaker 1: There's no code.

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Speaker 2: There's another box that's for a comment, and it's you

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Speaker 2: write down exactly what the what the check is for,

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Speaker 2: what the money transfer is for. Nobody wrote anything in

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Speaker 2: the comment. So here you have a million dollars out

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Speaker 2: the door, and they don't know who it went to

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Speaker 2: because it doesn't say they don't know what category of

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, now I understand when Gavin Newsen says, hey,

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Speaker 2: we spend twenty four billion dollars in homelessness, but we

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Speaker 2: don't know what it went for and whether it worked.

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Speaker 1: It's because nobody writes it down. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like, you know, you probably have some friends

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Speaker 2: They don't really track the income in the outflow, right,

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Speaker 2: nobody writes anything down and you ask them a word,

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Speaker 2: have to like physically track where money goes, especially when

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Speaker 2: you're spending I don't know, six seven trillion dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: somebody's got to write it down.

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Speaker 1: They literally don't write it down.

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Speaker 2: I found this hard to believe, but it's true because

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Speaker 2: Musk said the same thing, and so.

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Speaker 1: Did the auditors for high speed Rail.

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Speaker 2: They said the same thing that when they got to

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Speaker 2: which construction company got the micy just evaporate the same

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Speaker 2: people in foreign countries. And I thought, my god, every

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Speaker 2: how to access the websites, fill out the forms properly,

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Speaker 2: the country and outside the country knows how to access

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Speaker 1: Get and get.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's literally trillions of dollars that have been

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Speaker 2: Musk inexplicably a certain percentage of the country hates and

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Speaker 2: I really don't have no idea why. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: and he's making implants to hopefully make paralyzed people walk.

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Speaker 2: He's got a social media site that is extremely popular.

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Speaker 2: I really do not understand except their you know, this

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Speaker 2: resentful of the successful, they get angry and hateful of

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Speaker 2: He doesn't need to do this. There's no point him

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Speaker 2: stealing any of this money because he's got five hundred

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Speaker 2: Since he's got to run several public companies, it bugs

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Speaker 2: him that there's so much waste going on. He is

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Speaker 2: seen in his companies what waste and fraud can do,

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Speaker 2: and so he's doing They're just doing audits, by the way,

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Speaker 2: and if you find something, he presents it to Trump

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Speaker 2: and Trump's team and Trump will say, Okay, no more

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Speaker 1: Well that's rational, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: If we're wasting trillions of dollars every year and you

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Speaker 2: find specifically what some of the fraud and waste is about, Well,

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Speaker 2: then yeah, you hold them accountable and you fire him

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Speaker 2: or you demote them whatever. Well, why is this so terrible?

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Speaker 2: They're screaming, there's look, I heard today that there are

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, well, no, wonder they're out screaling, because

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Speaker 2: if they investigate all this stuff deep enough, we're going

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Speaker 2: to find out that a significant number of people in office,

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Speaker 2: in the House and in the Senate were part of

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Speaker 2: these criminal operations, stealing money, having money, if not diverted

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Speaker 1: That's what the game is.

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Speaker 2: And so now they're setting their hair on fire because

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Speaker 2: to prison. Wouldn't that be great? So I anybody who

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Speaker 2: objects the latter they squeal, the more I suspect they're

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Speaker 1: We come back.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play you a clip of exactly what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about here. Musk was in the Trump's office yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He probably saw him. He's standing next to Trump. Trump's

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Speaker 2: at the desk. It's the longest I've ever seen Trump

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Speaker 2: than you'd think they'd be worth, considering their salaries.

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Speaker 1: So play that for you next.

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Speaker 3: six forty.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me get to this.

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk standing in Trump's office yesterday in the Oval office,

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Speaker 2: speaks to a suspicion that I think most intelligent, rational

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Speaker 2: people have about this mess. Plate cut number four and

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Speaker 2: you mentioned some of the things that your team has found,

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Speaker 4: Right. Well, we often we do find it's sort of

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Speaker 4: rather odd that, you know, there are quite a few

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Speaker 4: to usaid, we're just curious as to where it came from.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're very good at investing, birch case, we should

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Speaker 4: take their investment advice, perhaps, but just there seems to

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Speaker 1: Truth of it.

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Speaker 2: How does somebody working in government who is making six

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Speaker 2: My taxes are really high, and no matter how much

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Speaker 2: and I don't get anything back for it. I don't

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Speaker 2: think most people here in California get much back for

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Speaker 2: all their taxes. Right, You're in La. The school district

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Speaker 2: really danks. The roads are disgusting. LA only has half

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Speaker 2: a fire department. They're thousands of officers short. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, you go back to the basics. What do

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Speaker 2: you want from a government here in California? You want police, fire, schools, roads,

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Speaker 2: and a few other things. And yet we've got trillions

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Speaker 2: of dollars being spent in Washington, hundreds of billions here

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Speaker 1: Where'd the money go?

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Speaker 2: And you know, I used to think that since I

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Speaker 2: was probably a teenager, I thought, are they stealing it?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they are, They're stealing it.

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Speaker 2: There's no way if you have a salary of a

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Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: There's no investment that gives you that unless you just

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Speaker 1: think it off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: Steer money to a nonprofit that your family members are running,

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Speaker 2: and you make sure that every year a million dollars

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Speaker 2: or two million or five million gets allocated to this nonprofit.

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Speaker 1: And this nonprofit can you know, address.

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Speaker 2: Poverty, sick children, homeless people, drug addicts, you know any

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Speaker 2: of that, right, and the money never helps anyone. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's going on in La right. We got seventy

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Speaker 2: thousand people living in the streets in La County, forty

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Speaker 2: This story about the latest thing Musk and his doge

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Speaker 2: So they apparently what the setup is. It's a limestone

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Speaker 2: then after the processing, they're stored in manila envelopes and

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Speaker 2: The aisle goes off into eternity, and it's cardboard boxes

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Speaker 2: Do you know how long, how slow, how inefficient that

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Speaker 1: And at the time, we were.

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Speaker 2: Spending fifty five million dollars a year on this limestone mine.

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Speaker 2: They have tried, You're not gonna believe this for almost

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Speaker 1: They never have.

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Speaker 2: Every attempt digitizing failed and was eventually scrapped. They spent

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Speaker 1: How could this be?

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Speaker 2: Musk says, the facility was opened in nineteen fifty five,

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Speaker 2: So this is the way they did business seventy years ago,

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Speaker 1: Because it's so slow.

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Speaker 2: If you retire, it can take any number of months

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Speaker 2: And how fast the mind shaft elevator moves determines how

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Speaker 2: And the elevator breaks down sometimes and then nobody can retire. Seriously,

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Speaker 2: Why can't I retire? Well, the elevator in the mine

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Speaker 2: can't make this up. I saw these these these idiots

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Speaker 2: This has got to be the most inefficient, least productive

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Speaker 2: They're in the street screaming, They're holding hearings and screaming.

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Speaker 2: They've all got severe personality disorders. And I see this

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Speaker 2: What was the benefit of keeping this? It must have

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Speaker 2: we figured it out. The reason they don't update it

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Speaker 2: it's no computers at all. Well, how are you going

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Speaker 2: Every time somebody wanted to investigate this, this particular department

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Speaker 2: this has just got to be the beginning. Here's another

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Joe Khalil. He's the Capitol

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Speaker 2: You keep hearing phrases like constitutional crisis, and.

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Speaker 1: It seems to.

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Speaker 2: Me to my untrained legal mind, that it's just a

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Speaker 2: lot of hot air and nonsense because they can't do

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Speaker 2: anything to stop what's going on. So we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that coming up.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Another guy that Trump fired was the watchdog, the inspector

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Speaker 2: general for this agency that's in the news, US Agency

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Speaker 2: for International Development USAID. And remember we told you yesterday

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Speaker 2: that USAID had paid for the college education of a

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Speaker 2: terrorist who had a strong connection to the Fort Hood

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Speaker 2: shooting in two thousand and nine in Texas. Remember when

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Speaker 2: thirteen thirteen people were shot dead by what was his name,

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Speaker 2: Nadel Hassan. He was the terrorist and his spiritual advisor

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Speaker 2: was and we're Alacke. And yesterday we told you that

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Speaker 2: Alacke was born in this country. He was an American citizen,

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Speaker 2: but he lied on his application by claiming he was

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Speaker 2: born in Yemen.

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Speaker 1: Actually born in New Mexico. He was born in Yemen,

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Speaker 1: and he.

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Speaker 2: Did that to to get his tuition paid for by

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Speaker 2: the US government, and USAID paid the money. It was

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Speaker 2: worth more than twenty seven thousand dollars at the time.

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Speaker 2: It was nineteen ninety It was Colorado State University. And

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Speaker 2: he used his education and went on to recruit and

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Speaker 2: groom terrorists for attacks on the US. He got a

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Speaker 2: bachelor's degree in civil engineering in nineteen ninety four, and

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Speaker 2: then he started teaching Islam at mosques around the country

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Speaker 2: and he would radicalize and recruit terrorists, including Nadal Hassan,

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Speaker 2: who went on to kill thirteen people at Fort Hood.

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Speaker 2: Now this story broke yesterday and they immediately fired the

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Speaker 2: Inspector General named Paul Martin, and Martin was not given

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Speaker 2: a reason for his firing, and the White House would

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Speaker 2: comment on the termination. Now, I doubt he had anything

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Speaker 2: to do with Nadal with anwar al Alackey getting his

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Speaker 2: college paid for thirty five years ago. But maybe he

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Speaker 2: didn't cooperate with the investigation. Maybe somehow he stonewalled. It's

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Speaker 2: just I mean, Alache was such a bad guy. He

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Speaker 2: really helped radicalize a lot of terrorists. In fact, he

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Speaker 2: even met two of the nine to eleven terrorists in

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Speaker 2: the year two thousand when he was preaching at a

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Speaker 2: mosque in San Diego. So he was like the spiritual

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Speaker 2: glue for many of these guys at the height of

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Speaker 2: the al Qaeda attacks in this country. And to find

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Speaker 2: out that we paid for his education here is really galling.

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Speaker 2: Now if you remember, Obama actually droned this guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: drone strike turned Aloche into a bunch of molecules, I

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Speaker 2: think at twenty eleven, after they had discovered his connections

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Speaker 2: to the Fort Hood shooting. But whatever happened in ninety uh,

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Speaker 2: this current Inspector general doesn't nobody else say why. But

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Speaker 2: the atridity of this corruption has been going on for

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Speaker 2: decades and has been ignored or covered up, never investigated

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Speaker 2: by all the administrations and Congress and the Senate, and somebody.

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Speaker 2: This morning one of the news channels said, boy must

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Speaker 2: better have like the best personal security because he's going

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Speaker 2: to create so many enemies here. You know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of this corruption is going to go back to federal

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Speaker 2: officials in various cabinets, maybe presidents and vice presidents, maybe

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Speaker 2: senators and congressmen. They have to be involved in this corruption,

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Speaker 2: certainly agency heads over the years. Somebody allowed this to

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Speaker 2: go on. Somebody knew this that they might have been

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Speaker 2: profiting from it. When whever you look up the net worth,

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Speaker 2: I mean I heard I heard today like Elizabeth Warren, right,

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Speaker 2: she's always screaming about how consumers are getting screwed and

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Speaker 2: how the rich corporations and billionaires are taking advantage. Found

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Speaker 2: out today she's worth twelve million dollars and the US

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Speaker 2: Senate salary pays less than two hundred thousand. So how'd

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Speaker 2: she get to twelve million? Why is she screaming about

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Speaker 2: other wealthy people? I mean, how do you get from

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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars a year to twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe she married into money. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: the inheritance or you know, some of these people like no,

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Speaker 2: must be stealing it. But we'll find out. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Musk must better better watch himself. Do you think he's

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Speaker 2: wearing bullet clues bullet proof clothes all the time?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I would? I mean you look what happened to Epstein. Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who's has that kind of that kind of information

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Speaker 2: that will destroy other people's lives, whether it's sexual information

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Speaker 2: or financial scandal information. People at this level they hire hitmen.

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Speaker 2: They take you out, they take you out, destroy the evidence,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, they save themselves. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: these guys like Trump and Moss shouldn't worry about terrorists.

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Speaker 2: They should worry about the people they're working with right

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Speaker 2: now in Washington, DC, because those are the guys who

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Speaker 2: might do something, do something dramatic. All right, we come back.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk with a reporter from News Nation.

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Speaker 2: He's the Capitol Hill correspondent, Joe Khalil. That's next ever

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