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Speaker 3: What a day?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday sports huh, yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thursday football was awesome Magdas and then you've got Major

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Speaker 4: League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I know, we're probably not supposed.

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Speaker 3: To do Guardians last well, listen, Tan.

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Speaker 2: We're probably not supposed to be rooting for one side

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Speaker 2: happy the forty nine ers one last night. I really

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Speaker 2: underdogs going in yet all the injuries, all of that

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Speaker 5: Over so Far to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and even in the game they go, they

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Speaker 2: well it goes and they're slinging it around and they

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Speaker 2: end up winning the game, and they do it on

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Speaker 4: I mean, By the way, you can go through the

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Speaker 4: history of Kyle Shanahan versus Sean McVay, but Shannan owns him.

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Speaker 4: He absolutely owns him head to head. And I'll give

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, every time they go head to

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Speaker 5: they proved me to be wrong. I just wonder if

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Speaker 4: It looked like it could have been a fumble. But

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Speaker 3: To go to the Super Bowl. So it's the beating

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Speaker 5: Speaking of play call, I mean, uh, officiating. So you

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Speaker 5: And forward progress, all right, If it's going to be

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Speaker 4: That's well again, I mean I think that that plays

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Speaker 4: what's the rush to bring brock Pretty back? You go back,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he reaggravated at Shannan said he's going to be

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Speaker 3: I think he's very capable of helping this team.

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Speaker 4: I am with LeVar on this, like there is something

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Speaker 5: What they said. The records, I was blown away. Like

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Speaker 3: But I sit there and listen and watch it go.

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Speaker 4: all seriousness, Like there's just too much. It's too much,

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Speaker 2: No, he's probably trying. He's probably trying to feed his

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Speaker 3: But I'm really proud of the defense.

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Speaker 5: They played great.

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Speaker 3: We had one sackle game and it was on me.

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Speaker 5: And I'll be final, it.

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Speaker 6: Looked like cramping the in there. I was worried about.

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Speaker 7: That's what happened to the don't practice for a couple

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Speaker 7: I just trust the guys and none of that matters. Really,

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Speaker 3: Guy's root fo one hundred and ten percent healthy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Loving his pants were falling off front.

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Speaker 5: They didn't pulled the man's ass out.

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Speaker 2: His pants were falling off. He looks like he's straight

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, he is hilarious. If you guys

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was a good win. Good win for the Niners

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Speaker 2: and UH and they are in control in that division.

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Speaker 10: One for the Rams.

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Speaker 5: Niners lead by three, a chance to win it with

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Speaker 5: a stop.

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Speaker 2: Here in overtime.

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Speaker 9: Stafford gets under center at the eleven yard line.

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Speaker 2: He takes it, he turns, he gives the Karen Williams.

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Speaker 5: He gets packed.

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Speaker 2: I think he's short him.

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Speaker 5: I think he's.

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Speaker 2: Short, and the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 1: It is all over.

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Speaker 2: It's awful.

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Speaker 5: And there's no Ronnie Lot yesterday. Yeah, you can know

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Speaker 5: forty nine ers. How's he feel about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't with him before the game, I mean after

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Speaker 5: the game was early. I was with him before. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so you know, yeah, what's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, give them the time change.

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Speaker 4: I may have been taking a dump at that time,

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Speaker 4: but not at not at eight thirty am Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Oh a thirty am your your time? Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 4: Potentially I could have been right back, right back there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: well okay, how'd that gobot?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you still there at the Rose?

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Speaker 4: Well, we know you've had some traveling issues this week,

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Speaker 5: I'm back. I'm literally back on the Oregon Trail as

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Speaker 5: soon as the show's over. So I'm surprised my daughter today.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully it's still surprised after saying it on the show.

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Speaker 5: But I assume they're all still sleep and I won't

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Speaker 3: Before I get to Organs back East or North.

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Speaker 5: No, No, she's she's at organ.

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Speaker 3: She she's yeah. I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, so I'm gonna jump in there and then I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna jump right back out a man travel with the team.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't a traveler unfortunate circumstances, but you know, he traveled.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited about getting back and seeing if he

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Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. But after Rose Bowl, yeah great cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think anyone for UCLA will be there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know after that loss we took, I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Happy happy for the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: Happy for the Yankees that that game wasn't really they

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Speaker 3: That was tough to watch for Red Sox fans.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Guardians hell of a run.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, at one point, if you would have said

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Speaker 2: Of that a month ago? You said it like they

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Speaker 4: And then, by the way, Cubs, that's right, little controversy though,

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Speaker 2: Well, LeVar, if you you're not happy with the officiating,

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Speaker 2: three to two count, a blatant mist that was called

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Speaker 2: a strike. The padres are not happy. They end up

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Speaker 2: There's a video you can see where the umpires are

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, it was a pretty pivotal moment.

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Speaker 2: Tap that helmet.

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Speaker 5: It kind of sounded funny to the way you said it.

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Speaker 2: So at least, hey, they're doing their part. You know,

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Speaker 2: they've tried to try to clean up some of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I think you're gonna have less

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Speaker 4: they move on like there's there's no I mean, honestly,

658
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: like tennis probably is the one that like has it

659
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: best utilized now, but starting next year, being able to

660
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: eliminate like a ball that's clearly not in the shrike

661
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: zone and a pivotal moment that would have probably ended

662
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: up in some san Diego. I think you sit there

663
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: and you go, okay, like next year, this is going

664
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: to feel completely different. Cobs fans, they're pucking up a

665
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: little bit, you know.

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean I was. I was texting Jonahs, Oh we

667
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: got out of the ending okay.

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00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, listen, I've been through this game before.

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Speaker 3: It's what it sound like.

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: This is not my first rodeo.

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00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what.

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00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: I also think that Major League Baseball did that kind

673
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: of pushed this to possibly happening. When you watch a

674
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: game now, they put the strike zone box on the screen,

675
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: so now everybody.

676
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: Can see, well, that's not major League Baseball.

677
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Well major League Baseball, ESPN, Fox, whoever's calling everybody.

678
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: But people have to start doing stop doing that because

679
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: someone else.

680
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: Was like, oh man, you know it's wild card, like

681
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: you know, be the league wants these teams playing in

682
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: the World Series, like well, first off, just so people understand.

683
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: The League's like, all right, all right, it's out of

684
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: our hands now. It's it's the playoffs like the best

685
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: two teams will eventually score off for it. It's the

686
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: TV networks that want the big brands. Yes, the TV networks,

687
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: Like I'll be open and say that they went ratings.

688
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: They want the big brands the league like all right,

689
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: you know, like they're not gonna sit there like cater

690
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: always to the Yankees or the Dodgers or whoever else.

691
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 4: Like is that the perfect scenario. Yeah from a viewership

692
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: ship standpoint, But that's because the TV partners that's what

693
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: they want. So but like the box all that so

694
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: the technology, that's all, that's.

695
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: All the TV networks. I think it's that's all like

696
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: Major League base was like, we need to put that

697
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: box up there.

698
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: I think it's been great. I also think it's exposed

699
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: a lot of the bad calls, but I think it

700
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: also showcased that there's a lot of really tight calls

701
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: that they get right. Like umpires get majority of these

702
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: calls right. But unfortunately it's moments like that where you

703
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: look at and go, oh, the umpire, the the you know,

704
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: they were awful, they couldn't call balls and straight for

705
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: the most part, they got them right. That was just

706
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: a pivotal moment to where they got it wrong. And

707
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: so you know, some Padre fans are going to bitch

708
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: and moan about it because they've basically sold their entire

709
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: farm system at the deadline to make deals to make

710
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: a deep run and now they're at home. Hey hey, brother,

711
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: blame Fernando Tatis for having one hit in this in

712
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: the series, all right, blame guys for not running to

713
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: first Like there's a lot of other things that could

714
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: have impacted that game. A right, Cubs are moving on

715
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: now we got the brew crew.

716
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be a tough out. The other thing I

717
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: was thinking about is the NFL officials have it's so

718
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: difficult with replay because the way the way you see

719
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: plays that are reviewed in the NFL, everything's slowed down

720
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: so much where these guys and to your point, kind

721
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: of about with with the umpires and all that, Like

722
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 4: it's kind of like a different system, so they're able

723
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: to go quickly go back check was a strike?

724
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: Was it not?

725
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: That hit the zone? That are not?

726
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: Okay, we're moving on. At least that's how it will

727
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 4: be in the future. But with the element of replay,

728
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: like they're not exposed as much because to your point,

729
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: they get them right ninety five to ninety eight percent

730
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: of the time. Yeah, Like they're really good. And it's

731
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: the same thing with the NFL officials. The problem is

732
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Speaker 4: NFL officials have to deal with the element of like

733
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: slow mo, where like everything you could distort or or

734
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: pull a certain way, especially when it comes down to

735
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: like was it a catch, you know, was the guy

736
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: you know in or around as he's going down to

737
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: have control or possession of it. There's so much subjectivity

738
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: to it, and it makes it worse because of replay,

739
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 4: whereas it with Major League Baseball it's it's kind of

740
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: clear cut, like what you're looking for and what you're

741
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, figure out from the replay.

742
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: Like I don't think there is. They're subject to the

743
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: slow mo having to deal with the difference how it

744
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: how it really is in real time.

745
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Lebar, what do we gotta do to get you the baseball?

746
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Speaker 5: I thought you guys did an excellent job. Come on,

747
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 5: come get that was proud of you guys. I was

748
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: sitting there and I.

749
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: Was like, man, he's got baseball fever.

750
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Speaker 3: Come on, come on. I know, I know exactly, I

751
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: know exactly what we can do. We can get him

752
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Speaker 3: some depends. Yeah, he can sit there, get this nice

753
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Speaker 3: lounge ship, go ahead and just just let it go.

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Speaker 3: Just do let it go, but work.

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Speaker 5: Thank god for the Internet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know are you? Uh, I don't know where

782
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: you find out. I don't get it.

783
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Speaker 4: Are you a problem? I want you to know that sincerely.

784
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: Just take a You're on a slippery slope.

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Speaker 2: Bro, good god, Oh my god, what do you mean

786
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: by that? How do they fit two battleships on a

787
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: shot class? You gotta be kidding me. That's a huge bitch,

788
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: don't I don't even know what to believe anymore. You

789
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: go on Instagram and it's like, all right, is this fake?

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00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 5: Is it? AI?

791
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Like, I BA, take your word for it. We did

792
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: have we did have somebody who was rewarded. That would

793
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: be Duke head coach John Shire has been extended uh

794
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: through the twenty thirty twenty three prety one season. Uh

795
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: so this was the guy who was picked to take

796
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: over after Mike Krzyzewski. He's uh slowly but surely gotten

797
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: the Duchies back to prominence. They've had some good recruiting,

798
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: they've had some great players. Whatever the hell that collapse

799
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: was in the final four last year and not ideal

800
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: with Cooper flag and in a game that they looked

801
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: like they were in control of over Houston. But it

802
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: does say something for somebody who takes over for a

803
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: name like Mike Krzyzewski and at least it feels like

804
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: he's got him heading in the right direction, because that

805
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: can't be the easiest job in the world. I can't

806
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: imagine who ever took over for Joe Pie after he

807
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: left had the easiest job in the world to try

808
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: and try.

809
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: And go in there. That's probably the worst compares that ever.

810
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: I mean from a I mean from a football standpoint,

811
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, that was situation. Okay, well from

812
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: a football I know.

813
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Speaker 4: You're trying to get levard to talk about it, but

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00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's the there we got in the

815
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: Shire session.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm listen, it is. If they feel like

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00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 5: it's the best decision for the Duke program, great, you know,

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00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: I'm a Duke fan. Obviously, they they have our guy

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Speaker 5: there as the head coach of the football team, and

820
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 5: Manny Diaz. I really liked Manny, but I mean Duke,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you know basketball, you know that Duke

822
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Speaker 5: always has a formidable line up, a formidable team, and

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Speaker 5: the standard you know, has been set by quite a few.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a short list of guys who have

825
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 5: coached the game that have impacted the game from the

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Speaker 5: the level that Mike Shizhski has. And yeah, man, when

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Speaker 5: you have to follow a guy that has had all

828
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Speaker 5: that success, all the players that he's coached, and and

829
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Speaker 5: and just all the accolades that go along with just

830
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 5: a brilliant career with what what Mikeski did. If you're

831
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: if you're able, I always say, you never want to

832
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 5: be that first guy. You want to actually be the

833
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: next guy after, you know, because you get the opportunity

834
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: to come in and somebody else took all the all

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Speaker 5: the bullets for what you were going to take, not

836
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 5: possibly living up to being what that legend was that

837
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 5: you're replacing. Sometimes that doesn't work that way.

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00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Kayalen bounce back, Kalen de Boris, bounce back.

839
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: He's quite a lot of people for one week.

840
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 5: For one week, you know, that's how it works.

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00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: For a week.

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00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: I would say this though, Shire's off to a really

843
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: good start. You know, not a lot of people go

844
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 4: back and look at the Duke program before coach K

845
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 4: got there. Really took him until it was fourth season

846
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 4: where they made the tournament. I mean, think about that

847
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: for a second. Like it it took until coach K's

848
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: fourth season before they made the NCAA tournament. So granted,

849
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: this is going back in the nineteen eighties, but Shire

850
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: has been able to take a program that had one

851
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: of the most recognizable figures running it for such a

852
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: long period of time, and the model of consistency too

853
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: with his success there that it's hard to put your

854
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: own stamp on it, but I think John Shire has

855
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: done that. They've gotten better every single year. I think

856
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: they got bounced out in the round of thirty two

857
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: Elite eight Final four, and honestly in the Final four,

858
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: like Houston was one of those hot teams. They had

859
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 4: a six point lead with forty seven seconds left. Gag

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00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: jo Yeah, I thought it was an awful foul they

861
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: called on Cooper flag off that free throw, which ultimately

862
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: led to Houston taking the lead and Duke losing that game. Now,

863
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 4: I'm not sure even if Duke wins if they beat Florida,

864
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, all the number

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00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: one seeds made it. He was a part of that,

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00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, kind of chalky group of high expectations. Can

867
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: they make it through?

868
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: They didn't.

869
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: So I love what he's done. I think he's done

870
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: it in his own style, zone way. It's a long

871
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: term extension form, which is great, I think, great for recruiting,

872
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: great for him personally. I do look at it and

873
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: just wonder, you know, would he leave people had talked

874
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: about so I don't think so, you know, and look

875
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: maybe not, you know, maybe he've used this as a

876
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 4: job that he'll be at like ketch k was until

877
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: he retires, and maybe this is that job that if

878
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: you coveted enough, you know, Duke, North Carolina.

879
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what other ones fall into that category.

880
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: Are there other Yukon?

881
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: Well, I would always see that for it to be

882
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: as as blue blood as it is, what would be

883
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 5: the determining factor of if you would stay or if

884
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 5: you would leave? Outside of obvious money? He played there,

885
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: he played at Duke, So to me, I would think

886
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: that the you know, the sentimental value of being able

887
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: to coach your alma mater, and it is a blue

888
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: blood program. Where else are you going to go where

889
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: you would have the type of feelings that you would

890
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 5: have going to the place where you played, and you

891
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: know ultimately you're there coaching that.

892
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: That's why I felt your dream job. That's why I

893
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: felt bad for like Mike Gundy, although that you know

894
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: he had a long time there. But Scott Frost, how

895
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: disastrous that was? Like like that's got to leave a

896
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: real sour taste in your mouth, Like, hey, I'm going

897
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: back to where it all started and then it ends

898
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: the way that it did. And I wonder how many

899
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: jobs in college football would you say that's the place

900
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: you don't leave, like a blue blood in college football

901
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: where you say I'm not leaving here, because I.

902
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 4: Mean I would have said Notre Dame. And so Brian

903
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: Kelly left, he's different. How's that working out for you?

904
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: Like, but if you think about it, because in college basketball,

905
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: yet Kentucky Duke, North Carolina, Kansas.

906
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but cal Perry left Kansas.

907
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 3: How did I fail to remember Kansas cheese?

908
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: Well they've you know, sorry, it's not been the same.

909
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's a blue blood. I should have

910
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 4: been you know, you would have said Indian not twenty

911
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 4: years ago?

912
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 5: Right?

913
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: And this I mean back in LeVar when you were

914
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 3: in college, like Indiana, was the team.

915
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: Football wise or basketball? Basketball? Yeah?

916
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: Basketball? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean that that program.

917
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: I think a tough part too, is is how they

918
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: handle the transition, you know, from certain legend is you know,

919
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: coach k to John Shire was probably easier than Bobby

920
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: Knight to whoever was next like that, just you were

921
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: not going to emulate that style again, you probably could

922
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 4: never even coach that way again.

923
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: But would you.

924
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: Look at Indiana since then, they've struggled, been any good? Yeah?

925
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

926
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: And that's a program that has all the resources.

927
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 5: If you don't think any program is if you ask,

928
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: is there programs that exist that you wouldn't want to leave? Sure,

929
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: it's the job that you have. And when you want

930
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: to leave is when there is an opportunity that comes

931
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 5: your way that is worth leaving. And and that's just

932
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 5: that's just the reality of it. So it's listen, it's

933
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 5: hard to get jobs. And then you get a job

934
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: out of place like Duke, even if I wasn't an

935
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: alumni of the school, to get a quality gig like that,

936
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: why would you ever want to leave outside of Again,

937
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: what the obvious would be, which is I get a

938
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 5: better opportunity with stability. Maybe they give me a guarantee contract,

939
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 5: Maybe they give me a little bit more power in

940
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: terms of what I'm able to do as the coach.

941
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: The resources that are coming our way as a program,

942
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: like there are things that practically, you know, the practical

943
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 5: thought of it. Yeah, you wouldn't leave even if it

944
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 5: was a blue blood, a traditional amazing college. But I

945
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: would find it hard to believe that if you go

946
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 5: to a place that really really has that type of

947
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 5: a program like Duke has. There's probably so much there

948
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 5: in terms of resources that it wouldn't make sense to leave,

949
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: other than to think that maybe the inevitable was coming,

950
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: which was they were probably thinking of getting getting rid

951
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: of you anyway, something to that effect.

952
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: I would say, where would you say if James Franklin

953
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: or if Marcus Freeman were to leave that you would say, Oh,

954
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: that's a step up from where you are. I don't

955
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: the NFL.

956
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody say for Marcus Ohio State because that's his

957
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: alma mater, and it is, you know, it's a program

958
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: that has been built up, it's had a ton of success,

959
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 4: It's obviously had success versus Notre Dame. So I think

960
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: some might throw that in there, but I just, I mean,

961
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what are their jobs out there in

962
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: college football?

963
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: You've thrown that category.

964
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 5: I don't think there is. I think there's a you

965
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 5: could go. But I think him even going to Ohio

966
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: State would be a parallel or excuse me, a horizontal move.

967
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 5: It'd be a side step. I don't think that would

968
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: be a step up in terms of brands. I don't

969
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 5: think it would be a step up. Like you said,

970
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: the sentimental value that he was a LB there like, Okay,

971
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: that may make sense, but I mean sometimes familiarity can

972
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 5: can breed, you know that that whole contempt, and sometimes

973
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 5: it could work against you. You know, like people expect

974
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 5: things of you, you know, whatever it may be. It

975
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: may be fear maybe unfair, but it isn't always great

976
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: going to be at the place where you came from.

977
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 5: You know, you're just you just may be judged differently. So,

978
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you mentioned Scott Frost, and how do you

979
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: feel after after you've been what you've been to them

980
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: as a player, you go there and it doesn't work

981
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 5: out the way you like, because at some point it's

982
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 5: not going to work out, Like that's kind of the

983
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: coaching the coaching profession. At some point it's not going

984
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: to work out. So at that point in time, how

985
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 5: do you feel about the breakup? Like is it worth?

986
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 5: Is it worth ruining your your feelings of the institution

987
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 5: that that you went and got educated at.

988
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: It's got a tainted for a little bit at least,

989
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: it's got to, if not forever, got to feel like

990
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: you were let down, Because what coach ever feels like.

991
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 5: They really should be fired. I mean honestly, like give

992
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 5: me another chance, Like you're a competitor, Like, give me

993
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 5: a little bit more.

994
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: Time, Mike, Mike. So, Mike Gundy was at in Stillwater

995
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: for thirty five years in some capacity, and he could

996
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: probably I mean, there's probably hard feelings and he's bummed out,

997
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: but I would say after a certain amount of time,

998
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: I could see him being like, yeah, but you know what,

999
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: it was a great run to just run its course.

1000
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: Scott Frost was a disaster, Like it was bad.

1001
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean it looks bad the way

1002
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: it ended, we can we can call it a disaster.

1003
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 4: There was some issues kind of early on, there was

1004
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: times where you felt like maybe they were about ready

1005
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: to kind of break, you know, kind of build it up,

1006
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: and it just never really got there. And I think

1007
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: part of the issue is and Matt Ruhle's done a

1008
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: great job now and looking at their administration office now

1009
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: and how they view Nebraska is a lot of the

1010
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: older blue blood programs they have to kind of change

1011
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 4: the way they think and see their program within today's world.

1012
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: Like it's almost like when people say that phrase like

1013
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: meet people where they are, it's the exact same thing

1014
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 4: to me when you go about hiring a coach for

1015
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: some of these blue blood programs, like you have to

1016
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: meet that program where they are. Too many times or

1017
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: too often you'll find programs that are blue blood programs

1018
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: that are living the past and they're trying to meet

1019
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: a coach who's trying to take them into the twenty

1020
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: first century and they're still hanging on to the stuff

1021
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: they did in the past. And then they come up

1022
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: and they say, well, that's not how we do it here,

1023
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: or that's not our tradition. Look, it's twenty twenty five.

1024
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: The college sport world has been turned upside down. Between

1025
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: nil the transfer portal, the amount of money that's now involved,

1026
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: like there wasn't like this thirty years ago TV rights

1027
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 4: deals even what coaches were being paid. I think Philip

1028
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: Folmer is the first coach to make a million bucks.

1029
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 4: That was like twenty five years ago. Think about that now,

1030
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 4: guys getting like ten.

1031
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: Million a year.

1032
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: Was he really the first Jesus?

1033
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: And so the reality to what LeVar said too, And

1034
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: the point is it's hard to stay someplace like Gundi

1035
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: did or anywhere else because you'll get to a point

1036
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: where someone looks the job you're doing and they think

1037
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 4: you're overpaid.

1038
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: They think you're compensated too much.

1039
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: And when you're at john Shire, just to go back

1040
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: to how we got into this subject, someone comes to

1041
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: you and just says, you know, hey, you had a

1042
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: subpar season, quit a great recruiting class.

1043
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: What happened?

1044
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 4: You know, There's gonna be times when Tho's injuries. There's

1045
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: gonna be times we have bad years. There's gonna be

1046
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: times when you miss on guys or guys are slow

1047
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: to develop, you're not quite there. People don't want to

1048
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: hear that, whether they're at some of the top programs.

1049
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 4: They believe that they should always live at the top.

1050
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: So you know, it becomes a really, really difficult task.

1051
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 4: I think for it was John Shire or anyone else

1052
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: who goes back to their alma mater, albeit a blue blood,

1053
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: where those expectations are there every single year for them.

1054
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: So I'm happy for me you got the extension. I

1055
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: think he deserves it.

1056
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: He's done a tremendous job filling in for coach k

1057
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: Not many people could do something like that. But how

1058
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 4: do you guys feel about the NCAA tournament expanding the

1059
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: seventy six teams?

1060
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: And I see that, right, it's just what we need.

1061
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: Let's throw some more teams in there. Why not? They

1062
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: have to have more because we can't figure it out

1063
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: in sixty eight teams. Let's add more. What is this

1064
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: seventy six? Now? Why don't just make it an even

1065
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: eighty and just.

1066
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 3: Go from there. I mean, I don't know if you

1067
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: care or not, but I look at it.

1068
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: I go all right, look at most professional sports leagues,

1069
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: they don't quite have half the teams make it. It's

1070
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: usually somewhere below that, like forty forty four, whatever it is.

1071
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I think about the NFL, is fourteen teams

1072
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: make it now out of thirty two what's the what's

1073
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: the NBA had?

1074
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 3: How many teams making the NBA?

1075
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 4: I guess if you count the plan because that really

1076
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 4: is part of the tournament, even though it's they don't

1077
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: technically make it part of the tournament.

1078
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what else do you call anything after

1079
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: the regular season?

1080
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: Twenty plan?

1081
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: There you go. So there's there's a much.

1082
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 4: Greater percentage of teams, at least the pro level. This

1083
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: is about, And this is the funny thing was I

1084
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: was like researching this. I go how many Division one

1085
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: men's basketball teams are there? And every single site was

1086
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: like more than three hundred and fifty. How'm like, so

1087
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: there's not an exact number like they're like, it's like

1088
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: an ebbs and flows of programs that are like Division

1089
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: one or not. Anyway, the point is if you just

1090
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: seventy six, that's like football too. Yeah, but it's a

1091
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 4: little more stable. There's like one hundred and thirty four.

1092
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: Like I could give you an exact number, you know,

1093
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 4: like last shock, I could give you an exact number.

1094
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: It's just weird to you, like looking it up. It's

1095
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: hard to get an exact number. But a little less

1096
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: than twenty two percent of the teams would have a

1097
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: shot at making it. And so I don't know if

1098
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: like you look at that and you go, all right,

1099
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: like maybe college football should have more College football is

1100
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: like nine percent, there's like one hundred and thirty four

1101
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 4: teams twelve make it something like that, which I mean

1102
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: and by the way, I'm not even sure if we

1103
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: could really.

1104
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: Make the harder to figure out. It would be way

1105
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: harder to figure out how to keep adding teams without

1106
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 5: impacting the season because you only have so much time, Like, yeah,

1107
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 5: I mean the ability to be able to play the

1108
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 5: games quicker. You know, the fact that you can play

1109
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: a game today, then you can play a game after

1110
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 5: one day's rest. Hell and basketball you could play it.

1111
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: You could play more than one game and one day,

1112
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: right right, But but.

1113
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 4: Again you're looking back to the NFL model. You have

1114
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: fourteen to thirty two. So like what you do is

1115
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: you would do away with the conference championship games. And

1116
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 4: so if you want to go to sixteen, or if

1117
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: even if you want to go to thirty two, you

1118
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: do it with conference championship games.

1119
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: Those games are now sold as part of the expanded.

1120
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: Playoff package, and then you have the regular season when

1121
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: they play nine conference games or ten conference games, if

1122
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: we get there, that's how they determine who the conference champions,

1123
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 4: and they'll do it based on they'll be tie breaking

1124
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 4: scenarios and all that stuff.

1125
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: But like that's ultimately how do you do it.

1126
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's how we do divisions in the NFL,

1127
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: It's how we do I mean, we eventually playoff for

1128
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: a conference championship. So maybe maybe that format, that expanded format.

1129
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 4: You know, they play through some sort of semi final

1130
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: then final for their conference and those are like part

1131
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: of the playoff but also qualifiers to ultimately win the conference.

1132
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: You know, maybe you go that route, But that would

1133
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 4: that'd be assuming.

1134
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: That all things are equal.

1135
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: And that's the problem with college football is we don't

1136
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: look at we don't look at the ACC and the

1137
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: Big twelve as equals to the Big ten in the SEC.

1138
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: So it kind of stands in their way of that

1139
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 4: that thought at least. But I don't know, I don't

1140
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: have a problem with it. I mean, I love that

1141
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: time of year. I think it's so much fun. If

1142
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: people haven't been to Vegas during that time of year,

1143
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 4: it's it's absolutely electric.

1144
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't know that the game's more fun.

1145
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is a solution to this.

1146
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: But when I look at college basketball and I go,

1147
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: what could they do to improve it? I don't think

1148
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: let's add more teams to the NCAA Tournament. I think,

1149
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: why don't you make the regular season better? Like the

1150
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: focus should be on how can we make the regular

1151
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: season more entertaining and better, especially if it's in the

1152
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: middle for a decent amount, if it's in the middle

1153
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: of football season, and I just like, instead it'd say, well,

1154
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: let's just add on to to the NCAA tournament. Man

1155
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: just sixty eight's fine, it's awesome, Like it's awesome.

1156
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 3: About it is. But when has the regular season ever

1157
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: mattered for college basketball?

1158
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 5: Man?

1159
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: Fact Like it used to be to where you would

1160
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: get excited about big matchups in college basketball, like Big

1161
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: mondays take East.

1162
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: That was when the Big East was the Big East

1163
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. It's not The landscape of the

1164
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 5: game has changed so dramatically, man Like, it's it's it's

1165
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: not the same. You don't get to know the players

1166
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: the way that you you used to. It's the bonds

1167
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 5: between the players and the fans, the relationship. It's not

1168
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: it's it's just not the same. The landscape doesn't allow

1169
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: for it. In college basketball. It's it's just it's very different.

1170
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: It's it's very transactional, and it's always basketball has always

1171
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: been a very transactional type of sport, but it's even

1172
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 5: more so nowadays. I mean even knowing coaches is difficult.

1173
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 5: I mean back in the day, you knew it was

1174
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: a Tartanian, you knew it was a Fisher, or or

1175
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: a Thompson, you know, a Nolan Richardson, you know, or Harrison,

1176
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 5: Nolan Harrison. Yeah, Richard richards Richards Harrison was my teammate.

1177
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 5: Now Nolan Harrison was my teammate U. But yeah, I

1178
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 5: mean you knew who these guys were, and you knew

1179
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 5: who the players were, you know, and and that's what

1180
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: created such signature, you know, signature brands like Duke you know,

1181
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: and and coaches like Mike Krzyzewski. It's not really like

1182
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: that anymore. It's not. So you have a different you

1183
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 5: have a different level of trying to market, brand and promote,

1184
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 5: you know, the game of college basketball, especially the regular season,

1185
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 5: because you don't know nobody, you know, there's no real

1186
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 5: connection to it. You're not looking at it like, all right,

1187
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 5: is this the team? I mean there was a little

1188
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 5: bit of it with Duke last year, like how good

1189
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: could they be? But you know, you were looking at

1190
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 5: teams and like can this team go undefeated? And you're

1191
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 5: looking at the coach, you know the coach, You're looking

1192
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: at the players, you know the players. It's like, it's

1193
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 5: just not like that too much anymore.

1194
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, I saw Rick Patino at the Yankees

1195
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: game last night. Looks great, Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah,

1196
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: just just watch it looks great. Yeah, it looks great.

1197
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: Italian jeans. Yeah, you know. Okay, guy, how about those Yankees.

1198
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,560
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