1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck in NYC. Gonna be 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: solo today because our good friend Play is on vacation 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: with the fam up in Michigan having a great time. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: Checked in on him last night. He sends his regards 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: to all of you. He misses being at the mic, 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: but the guy needs some downtime with the family, obviously 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: with the wife and kids, so he's having a good one. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm in for the next few days with all of you, 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and we have so much to talk about. I mean, 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: first off, Pelosi touched down in Taiwan last couple of hours, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: so she did make the trip, and we are waiting 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: to see what the Chinese response will be. They have 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: certainly made a lot of noises. The Chinese Communist Party 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: has suggested that it would take dramatic action, even hinting 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: at some kind of military action in response this. I 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. I certainly pray that 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: does not happen. I think it's highly highly unlikely they'll 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: do that, but they'll do some provocations and stamp their feet, 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: so to speak, make some noise diplomatically, and perhaps put 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: some pressure on well whomever they can in the US 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: and certainly US corporations to show their displeasure. We'll discuss 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: more of that in a little bit. You also have 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: more back and forth over the Biden anti inflation bill 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: that won't actually bring down inflation. Joe Mansion just appeared 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: on Fox News before he came on, are interesting exchange 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: their good interview with Harris Faulkner. So we'll discuss that, 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and honestly, so much more to get to. I can't 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: even begin to lay it all out. Oh the baby 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: formula shortage. Do you know that it's still going on 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: and expected to continue into the fall. Stores or brands 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: rather of baby formula are thirty percent out of stock. 34 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: So you remember when they had that photo of the 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: transport plane with the coming from Germany with the baby 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: formula and by administration c we're on it. They said 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: they didn't fix it, not even a little bit. It's 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: still a big problem. Well maybe they fixed it a 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: little bit, but not nearly enough. It's still a shortage. 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: And now we'll see what they actually are going to 41 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: do economically speaking, if they get their way, what the 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: impact will be on the economy of more spending. But 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the news that struck a lot of us one of 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: those things that you hear about and I think you'll 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: remember where you were when you heard it, especially for 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: those of you who served in the military. Were part 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: of what we used to call back in my day, 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and the CIA and certainly US Mill used to call 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: it the GYT the Global War on Terror. And then 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: that change, remember the Obama administration came out. Initially they 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: wanted to change the GIWAT and make it something like 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: overseas contingency operations to deal with violent extremism in a 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: limited context or something like that. It was absurd. The 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: acronym was so long that nobody was going to remember it, 55 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: so they bailed out of that. But I'm in al 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Zawahiri is dead, al Qaeda's number two. That is the 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: big news of the last twenty four hours, in addition 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: to the Pelosi touchdown in Taiwan, which I think is 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: likely to be something that people in foreign policy circles 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: talk about a lot. I'm not sure it's really going 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: to have very much actual impact or change at all, 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: but we'll see. In fact, we also will see what 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: the impact is in Afghanistan now after Zawahiri was killed. 64 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Just by way of quick context here, Zawahiri was bin 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Laden's number two and a direct plotter of nine to eleven, 66 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: celebrated nine to eleven afterwards, was also involved in the 67 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: bombing of the USS coal and was a terror mastermind. 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: He after bin Laden is the individual with the single 69 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: biggest influence on Al Qaida over the years. And we 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: used a switchblade drone which managed to take him out 71 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: on the balcony of a house within walking distance of 72 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: the US Embassy compound in Afghanistan or now the former 73 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: US Embassy compound in Afghanistan. But it was in a 74 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: well to do neighborhood, a little bit reminiscent in that 75 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: sense of the bin Laden raid in Abadabad. It was 76 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: actually named for a British Abadabad was named for a 77 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: British I believe it was General Abbott. That goes back 78 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to the British Shafgan Wars, of which there were there 79 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: were a couple. But he was clearly known to be 80 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: by the Taliban in Cobbol. He was in a house 81 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: that even some have reported has connections, reconnections to the 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Kani network. So let me tell you what I think 83 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: about all this. On the one hand, there's the sense 84 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: of justice done. It took over twenty years, and that's 85 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: with multiple invasions in the region. That's with ongoing counter 86 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: terrorism operations. I was an analyst and part of targeting 87 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: operations for the CIA's counter Terrorism Center for a number 88 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: of years. I was in the CIA a decade ago now. 89 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: And obviously Zawahiri has been a top target of the 90 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: US National Security complex. He had a twenty five million 91 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: dollar bounty on his head. And we want justice to 92 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: this day for nine to eleven, the same way that 93 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: anybody had who had anything to do with the Holocaust, 94 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, years and years later they were they were 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: hunted down and made to stand trial or take it out. 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: We have that feeling about anybody involved in nine to eleven. 97 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: We will hunt them down, we will take them out. 98 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: So that's the right thing, and in that sense is 99 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: a moment to mark and say justice done. I don't 100 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: really get into the cheering and celebrating over these things. 101 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: This is solemn. This is something we must do as 102 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a country. We have to be steely eyed about it, 103 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: and it was the right move. But you know, this 104 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: is not the US you know, national team in some 105 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: sport winning. I mean, this is a moment of remembrance, 106 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: and there's a solemnity to what al Qaeda did to us, 107 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: the fact that we needed to achieve this justice in 108 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: the first place. I think certainly for the nine eleven 109 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: families out there, we need to remember the price that 110 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: was paid. We need to remember the price that was 111 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: paid by our service members who went overseas, first to Afghanistan, 112 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: then to Iraq, spent decades in Afghanistan trying to prevent 113 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: essentially what has now happened. Which is that And this 114 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: is the other part of it. What is the state 115 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: of terror support in Kabbal in Afghanistan? Right now? The 116 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Taliban runs that country. They are the government, just like 117 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: they were in the nineteen nineties. You will remember, I'm 118 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: sure the movie Charlie Wilson's War. I also read the 119 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: book along time ago. It is a very readable, very 120 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: very enjoyable book. And the movie is well done too 121 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: with Tom Hanks. You remember at the end of it, 122 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the character who was played by he's the CIA officer 123 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, and he talks about what 124 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: he says, and this is an Aaron Sorkin movie. I 125 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know if this is even a real zen Master 126 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: tale or if this is something someone found on the 127 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: internet somewhere, but he tells the story of his end Master, 128 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: who observed the people of his village celebrating because a 129 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: young boy is given a horse and it's a wonderful gift, 130 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: and he says, we'll see. That's what the zen Master says. 131 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: And then the boy falls off the horse. He breaks 132 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: a leg, and everyone says the horse is a curse, 133 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and the zen Master says, we'll see. And then war 134 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: breaks out and the boy can't actually be pulled into 135 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: the ranks of the military because of the injury he 136 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: got from riding the horse. And then everyone says, Wow, 137 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: what great luck he had, and the zen Master says, 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: we'll see. You get where this is going. Remember that 139 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: part of Charlie Wilson's War. It was in one of 140 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: those moments where there was a lesson to be learned. 141 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: You also heard if Memory Serves in the movie a Plane, 142 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: very markedly on approach to I don't think it would 143 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: have been dullus would have been Reagan Airport probably given 144 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: where they were in the movie, and it was an 145 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: indicator of Okay, the Soviet Union has fallen the mujahide 146 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: in our victorious what comes next? And we all know 147 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: what comes next that leads us then years later to 148 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: nine to eleven to bin Laden, to Zawahiri and or 149 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: as some people you'll hear on TV saying at Zoarhi. 150 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: But I like the americanized version. And here now we 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: have to say, how is it possible that we can 152 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: think Afghanistan is going to be anything other than an 153 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: ally to terrorists and terror sponsoring regimes in the future 154 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: when it is run by the Hakani network. Again, those 155 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: of you who serve specifically in the Afghan in the 156 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: Afpac theater, No, they're They're as bad as it gets. 157 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: They have us blood on their hands. They are wanted terrorists. 158 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: They run the Afghan government right now. That's who's in 159 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: charge in Afghanistan. I'm in Olsowahie moved in twenty twenty 160 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: two to Kabul. That's how safe he felt. He didn't 161 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: just go to Afghanistan. He's not in some outlying village, 162 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, up in the Hindu Kush or something. He 163 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: went right into the capitol city, right into downtown and 164 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: was hanging out on the balcony. Now, yes, it is 165 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: a good tactical operation and a success in that respect 166 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: that he was taken out by these switchblade drones or 167 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: switchblade missile rather fired from a reaper drone. And it 168 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: is right to mark this, and it is a good thing. 169 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Here is Biden, by the way. I meant to play 170 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: this a moment ago, but I got wrapped up in 171 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: the analysis. Here he is announcing the death of I'm 172 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: in Alswaterie play Parttell's community located Zawahiri. Earlier this year, 173 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: it had moved to downtown couple to reunite with members 174 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: of his immediate family. After carefully considering a clear and 175 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: convincing evidence of his location, I authorized a precision strike 176 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: that would remove him from the battlefield once and for all. 177 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: This mission was carefully planned rigorously minimize the risk of 178 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: harmed other civilians, and one week ago Tribute advised that 179 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the conditions were optimal. I gave the final approval to 180 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: go get him, and the mission was a success. None 181 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: of his family members were hurt and there were no 182 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: civilian casualists. They had him under surveillance. Reportedly they knew 183 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: where he was four months. I do not believe that 184 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the timing of this is a coincidence, because I know 185 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: some of you are going to be calling in or 186 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: writing in and saying, oh, come on, yes, of course, 187 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: holding this one in the back pocket, just in time 188 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: for the mid terms. Yes, I think that was a factor, 189 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: to say the least, in the timing of this. Does 190 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: anyone really think given the realities of what the Obama 191 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: administration was doing with drones and the drone strikes and 192 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: the civilian casualties that they were racking up at the time, 193 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: which you didn't hear much about because the media was 194 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: all in the tank for Obama, as you know. But 195 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: if they had told this, we killed Swahi, we blew 196 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: up a car, four people inside dead, would anybody have 197 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: said for a moment whole? Then they couldn't have done out. 198 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: This is al Qaida's top, the top guy right now 199 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: since the death had been law, and he has been 200 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: the most senior, the most powerful, most influential member of 201 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: al Qaida, certainly as it pertains to reputation and the 202 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: influence of the of al Qaida as a terrorist organization. 203 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: So I think they likely waited on this can never 204 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: prove that right, He says, they waited for the optimal moment. Sure, 205 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: it is amazing technology. They usually can read about it. Now. 206 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: It's much more out there than than drone strikes used 207 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: to be basically deploying giant razor blades, and it's a 208 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: relatively new thing. Limit civilian casualties. You don't have the 209 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: same kind of shrapnel effect, and so people in the 210 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: area much less likely to be killed as collateral damage. 211 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: But let's remember when the Biden administration was looking completely 212 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: inept and idiotic, what did they do. They ordered a 213 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: drone strike on a car for people, kill the whole family. Folks. 214 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Remember that during the Afghanistan withdrawal. Oh, so when Biden 215 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: looks bad on TV, they'll order a drone strike that 216 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: kills a family if I think it was six or seven, 217 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: including small children. And I know they say, oh, but 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: it was just a mistake. Yeah, but they didn't wait 219 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: very long to verify it. Did. They very different set 220 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: of considerations for that drone strike than for this drone 221 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: strike where they were sitting on it and went in 222 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: to deploy it for maximum effect. So back to the 223 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: Zen Master. What does this mean now? I see there 224 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: are all these democrats saying, ha, we've finally shown al 225 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Qaeda really al Qaida now has a Taliban that is 226 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: hosting it again in Afghanistan. What happened after bin Laden 227 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: was killed in two eleven? Just do a quick run 228 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: through in your mind. Did all the terrorists run for cover? 229 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Were all the terrorists terrified around the world, No, of 230 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: course not. You had the rise of Isis. You had 231 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Abu Baker al Baghdaddy leading brigade level forces to take Mosul, 232 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: to completely overrun Iraqi forces. We've been trading for years, 233 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: to set up a caliphate, to have mass slavery, to 234 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: have you murders once again, recorded, people taken and hands 235 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: bound out of the desert. That was all happening under 236 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: the Obama administration after bin Laden was killed. So there's 237 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the politics of this and there's the reality of it. Yes, 238 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: it was the right thing to kill Zawahiri. It is 239 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: a very concerning development that he's in downtown Cobble. And 240 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: what does this mean for our war on terror going forward? 241 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Those of you who have fought it, those of you 242 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: who have been over there and seen and know you 243 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say. We'll see all right, big 244 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: change of pace here for a second. I am an 245 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: engage man, as you know. And one of the things 246 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: I gotta do before the big day is get to 247 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the gym. I got a it all soft during COVID. 248 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Not gonna lie doing tons of radio and research and 249 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: reading and a little too many a little few too 250 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: many cookies. 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That's what they called 277 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: the media. It does have blades that come out. It's 278 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: a pretty remarkable piece of technology. Took out the former 279 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: bin Laden number two and it is a good thing. 280 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: But as I was just saying to you, it doesn't 281 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: change the reality on the ground in Afghanistan. And I'm 282 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: wondering if any of you who are part of the 283 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: GWATT if you served overseas, either in a military or 284 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: intelligence capacity. What you think about this. There's obviously a 285 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: sense of satisfaction at the job done that many of us. 286 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I was at CTC, we were looking for 287 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm in OLSWAHERI le see now I'm doing it. Zawahiri, 288 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: I was doing that, you know, fifteen years ago. So 289 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: didn't find him obviously. We just found him now or 290 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: they found him earlier this year, but at eight hundred 291 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: two eight two two eight eight two. For any of 292 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: my fellow GEWAT fighters or in my case writers as 293 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: an analyst, but those of your were door kickers, etc. 294 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Please call in let me know what your thoughts are 295 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: on this one, because I think Afghanistan is going to 296 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: it's going to a very bad place. My friends, they're 297 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: just biding their time right now figuring out who they're 298 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: going to be making unofficial alliances with and how they're 299 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: going to be training people. And Gewat's not over, it's 300 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: just on hiatus. 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Switch to Pure Talk now get a month free. 319 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Dial Pound two five zero and say Clay and Buck. 320 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: That's just from your phone. Now dial Pound two five 321 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: zero say Clay and Buck her with a straw. From 322 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: the beginning, I mean, why not rather than saying the 323 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: military doesn't think it's a good idea to go, why 324 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: not call the Chinese Bluff or Telene Pound Sam When 325 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: they start elliot about the possibility of this trip, given, 326 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, there's no change in policy president 327 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: for Pelosi, so let's stay drama quit. They watched the 328 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks I masened this question. Yeah, I 329 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: didn't the last couple of weeks I have seen NAMA. 330 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: I think I think your manufactor you have your question 331 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: manufacturing drama. I don't think that's a fair assessment of 332 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: a visit by a senior US official, in this case, 333 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan, the most senior government official to 334 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: go there since what nineteen ninety seven. I think it 335 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: is um and welcome back to Clay and Buck. By 336 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: the way, Pelosi has touched down in Taipei. She's in 337 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: Taiwan right now, and there's a lot going on here. Um. 338 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: First off, we think I believe that the foreign policy 339 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: establishment and the media become almost obsessive about the optics 340 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: of things like this. Now. I did talk to you 341 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: yesterday about this because China was making a lot of 342 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: noise about how it would do extreme things, and it 343 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: seemed unlikely that they would take any major action here. 344 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: Are they gonna buzz Taiwanese airspace or violate Taiwanese airspace 345 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: with some planes. Yeah. Probably. Are they gonna do something provocative? 346 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: You'll see headlines about this in the in the days 347 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: and weeks ahead. You know, China in in a provocative move, 348 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: decided to fill in the blank with something. But it's 349 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: not going to be in my opinion, And certainly we 350 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: all hope shot plane out of sky or open fire 351 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: on warship or anything like that, right, that's because that 352 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: would lead to warm and that would be a terrifying circumstance, 353 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: not just for the US and for China, but for 354 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: the whole world. Right, that would be a terrible circumstance, 355 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: low probability, high impact scenario. That's what we would have 356 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: called it back in the CIA analyst days, although I'm 357 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: sure that's just the thing now you can learn about 358 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. So they get obsessed with the optics of this, 359 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: meaning the way that it appears to people. And what 360 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: I just I have to note here is that you're 361 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: having a lot of Democrats who acted like remember when 362 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wanted to meet with Kim Jong hun and 363 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: we were told there there were editorials written about how 364 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: this could lead to nuclear war. We were hearing about 365 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: that all the time, Oh my gosh, and it's undermining 366 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: everything and didn't change the US posture toward North Korea. 367 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: Didn't work. Let's be honest, it didn't work. Didn't change 368 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: the US relationship with North Korea in any meaningful way. 369 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: But he wanted to take a shot. But you see, 370 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: that was a moment when they could all come together 371 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: and say Trump is reckless and North Korea could end 372 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: up firing a new your missile at Hawaii over this. 373 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: Remember all that nothing happened, Trump met with him, Nothing 374 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: really changed North Korea as a problem set that really 375 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: is actually part of the China problem set. Without Chinese support, 376 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: the North Korean state would very rapidly cease to exist. 377 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: It's by far North Korea's primary trading partner, and really 378 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: China uses North Korea visavi the international community as a 379 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: way of saying, okay, well we'll rain them in, but 380 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: you gotta do the following for us, or you got 381 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: to back off us on this issue and we'll tell 382 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: North Korea to you know, stop firing the missiles towards 383 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: Japan or something, or test firing. So there's those are 384 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: that's an issue. There's a complexity there that we should 385 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: always take into account that the North Korea problem set 386 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: is just like Hong Kong is a China issue, Taiwan 387 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: is a China issue. North Korea as a different country, 388 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Taiwan is de facto a different country too, 389 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: but North is officially a different country. But it is 390 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: really a part of the problem of dealing with China 391 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: in so many ways. But when it was Trump doing 392 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: that with Kim Jong Owen, it was it's just reckless. 393 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Now Nancy Pelosi, why is she doing this? They're all 394 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, it's standing in solidarity with Taiwan. And 395 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: I said yesterday I stand behind this. You can't let 396 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party, determine where the US 397 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House is gonna land. You can't let 398 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: them have veto power over it. So once it was 399 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: out there, she was going, she had to go, she 400 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: had to actually visit. So that was the right move. 401 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: But what really changes as a result of this? Does 402 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: anybody think, I mean, the People's Liberation Army I believe 403 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: has said publicly that they think they've even put out 404 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: a date. I don't know. I think in four or 405 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: five years they'll be fully ready for whatever they need 406 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: to do with regard to Taiwan and any other military 407 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: obligations they may have. So does anyone believe that this 408 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: changes the US posture to Taiwan or changes Chinese calculations 409 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: in a meaningful way. I don't think it does. It's 410 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: an act of solidarity. A lot of people that work 411 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: at think tanks and who cover foreign policy for different 412 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: media outlets will say, this is a big moment, but 413 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: you're also noticing something, aren't you. You got the Zawaheri 414 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: strike ordered, you got the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, all 415 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: happening in the same week. It's almost like it's August 416 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: before a midterm election, and Democrats have decided they need 417 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to change the narrative to 418 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: look at the bold things that Democrats are doing. Forget 419 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: about the stuff that the American people are focused in 420 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: on in their day to day lives. Because Democrats have 421 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: been abject failures on those inflation, the economy, the border crime, 422 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: things that affect all of us. There's no narrative that 423 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: they can push about how that's gone well over the 424 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: last eighteen months. I mean they could try, they do. 425 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: So you know. That's why what is it? Paul Krugman 426 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: was saying that Biden this was funny. I even had 427 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: to say something snarky about this on Twitter, Paul Krugman 428 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: saying Nobel Laureate's Paul Krugman of the New York Times 429 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: that Biden's economic policies have been so successful They've caused inflation. 430 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: It's so amazing. We grew so fast with so many jobs. 431 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: That's the cause of the inflation. Oh so he's so awesome. 432 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Everything got more expensive, is what I mean. This is 433 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: how people can say this stuff out loud, is it's 434 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. But what you find is that to be 435 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: a useful tool of the Biden regime, the failing Biden regime, 436 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: requires a willingness to embarrass oneself in public. I mean, 437 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: to gleefully embarrass oneself, to self immolates one's credibility professionally, 438 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: to just light that credibility on fires. See, I'll go 439 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: along with it. I don't even know what a recession is, 440 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: and I'm an economist. Then you get a pat on 441 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: the head from the New York Times, you get a 442 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: pat on the head from the Washington Post. People look 443 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: at you throw your little smile at cocktail parties. Next 444 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: thing in ail, you'll be announcing your pronouns. You'll really 445 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: be a member of the club. And that's the way 446 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: it's supposed to work, right, That's how this goes. You 447 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: want to be you want to be invited to the 448 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: cool kid table at in the cafeteria at high school lunch. 449 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Gotta be willing to make yourself look like a jackass 450 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: in public as an expert, whether it's on COVID or 451 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: the economy or whatever it is. Just gotta go along 452 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: with them. Things are great. I'm gonna look at majorcas 453 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: of Department of Homeland Security, says the Border Secure. I 454 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: mean when you bring that up, I've done this. When 455 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: you ask Border patrol, different folks in Border patrol, what 456 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: do you think of that? I mean, I can't say 457 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: it on air. You gotta take out the bleap button 458 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: because of the exploratives like that's just crazy. That's one 459 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: way of saying it. It's absurd, it's gast lighting. But 460 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: I think that they realize it's not going to work 461 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: well enough, which is why you have these very interestingly 462 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: timed grand gestures of national security on the world stage 463 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say Pelosi. Once it got out 464 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: that she was going, now, why she decide to go 465 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: and all that. But once she said she'd go, and 466 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: she had to go right, because to back down would 467 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: embolden a Chinese Communist party that already has so much 468 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: leverage against US corporations and in this country in ways 469 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: that we could do whole shows just talking about. And 470 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: then on the issue of Zawahiri, Yeah, you gotta take 471 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: that guy out. Why did they wait for months and 472 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: months and months to take him out? Well, I think 473 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: that's an interesting question. They'll say it's because they had 474 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: to verify and find the exact right conditions. I find 475 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: that hard to believe. So the timing here, it's not 476 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: quite an October surprise, but some August surprise is thrown 477 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: into the mix. What motivates Democrats more than anything else. 478 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: We know one thing about them. They do not really 479 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: believe in foreign enemies external enemies, because the primary enemy 480 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: to Democrats is the domestic political opposition. So most of 481 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: their decision making is always around that issue. 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Welcome back to Clay and Buck. This is 508 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: Buck in NYC. And I want to add something to 509 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: the mix here. The storyline over the weekend. I didn't 510 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: get to talk to you about this one where John 511 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Stewart went on these absolutely profane rants, calling the GOP 512 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of names around a bill in the Senate 513 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: that had to do with health benefits for veterans affected 514 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: by burn pits. I remember bird pits when I was 515 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: an Afghanistan. People were concerned about them then, and that 516 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago. It was not a good idea 517 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: to be subjecting people to this serious health serious health 518 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: consequences from it. And we owe our our veterans a 519 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: debt of honor to make sure that they are taken 520 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: care of for any of their service related health issues 521 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: and to provide them with healthcare as as part of 522 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: the deal that we have for them serving their country. 523 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: That I'll say, John Stewart, who I think is well 524 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: intentioned on this, but a lot of people who are 525 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: well intentioned and has been in the fight a long 526 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: time I know, and for nine to eleven nine to 527 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: eleven first responders has been pushing for them, and they 528 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: have been getting the funding year and year out, and 529 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: it has been bipartisan, but he has been pushing for it. 530 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: But this notion that the Democrats are the heroes here 531 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: once again talking about narratives. Our friend Noah Rothman, you 532 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: remember him from a week or two ago we had 533 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: him on to talk about his new book, The Very 534 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Sharp Guy, and he goes into the Belly of the 535 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: Beast over at MSNBC. As a conservative, he writes this 536 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: about this Senate bill, the effort to invoke cloture on 537 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: the Honoring Our Packed Act, when down to defeat last 538 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: week after it had already passed the US Senate in 539 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: June with significant Republican support. Why this is on commentary 540 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: dot org. By the way, the Senate had to take 541 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: a second vote on the measure after the Senate introduced 542 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: phase implementation rules and up the number of staff to 543 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: process new claims, but that required new revenue, and since 544 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: all such bills must originate in the House, the process 545 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: had to begin anew in the interm However, the Washington 546 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: Post reported Senator to Me worked behind the scenes to 547 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: inform his colleagues about a major flaw in the bill. 548 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: The Pennsylvania Senator's long held objection to the legislation rests 549 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: on the fact that about four hundred billion dollars in 550 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: spending over the next ten years has been deemed non discretionary, 551 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: meaning that it doesn't need to be deliberately appropriated by 552 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Congress and will be spent no matter what. But that 553 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: spending isn't dedicated to veterans affairs, It isn't dedicated to anything. 554 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: In fact, it is a blank check that Toomey believes 555 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: will be made out to Democrat priorities or favored constituencies 556 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: without a public debate over the value of that spending. 557 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: End quote well written here by Noah and Pat Toomey said, 558 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: it's about Congress hiding behind an important veteran care bill 559 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: a massive unrelated spending binge. I'm bringing this up because 560 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: this is who you're dealing with. John Stewart goes out 561 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: there cursing and spittle rage at everybody who doesn't go 562 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: along with the bill. You don't care about veterans. Really, 563 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: Republican senators don't care about veterans. That's a new one. 564 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm compared to Democrats senators. It's a new one. And 565 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: when you actually look at this, Democrats are so shameless 566 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: in the Senate that they would use This is the Hey, 567 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna have a bill that's that's meant for, 568 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, to provide housing for you know, for people 569 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: or you know, this is something that everybody could agree. 570 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Veterans the best possible issue. I was gonna say housing 571 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: free people who lost their homes after uh, you know, 572 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: a terrorist attack. Put that aside for a second. I mean, 573 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: this is as good of a cause as you can 574 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: find in the government. And Republicans are all on board 575 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, of course, health care for veterans affected 576 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: by burn pits. Of course we should do this. And 577 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: they all say this, of course we should do this. 578 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: But what do Democrats do. Well, there's a lot of 579 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: emotion behind this. So let's try to slip in a 580 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: mechanism to allow hundreds of billions of dollars of spending 581 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: on whatever we want. And the moment that we get 582 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: any pushback, we say, you don't care about veterans, A 583 00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: shameless baden switch shameless. That's who they are, folks, that's 584 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: who you're dealing with. Notice once again the narrative right 585 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: now in preparation for the mid terms. Oh yes, Republicans 586 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: don't care about the veterans. Sure, that's what they're trying. 587 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of veterans who are on the 588 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: line right now. I want to weigh in on this. 589 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: We have Steve in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Steve, you were an 590 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Intel analyst in Afghanistan. Thanks for calling in. Yes, that's right. 591 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: I was with US Navy. Hey, I just want to 592 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: pick up on your point with Zawahiri and Hakani. Hakani 593 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: and I was there in twenty seventeen. As you said 594 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: they were bad guys, then they're still bad guys. It 595 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: is very disturbing the connection between the Afghan government and 596 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: a Khannie network. A Khannie was on our I mean, 597 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: if they did anything in country, it got our attention 598 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: right away because they were always doing bad stuff. So 599 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: any interpretation of the Afghan government being anything other than 600 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the ligne with the connection connection to Hakani is misplaced. 601 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: These are bad guys and we have to see it 602 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: that way. And this is very disturbing that he was 603 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: there out in the open. Essentially, we're just exhausted and 604 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: dealing with Afghanistan, so we're essentially letting a terrorist enemy refit, 605 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: re equip and figure out their plans. I think that's 606 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: where we are unfortunately, Steve. Thank you for your service, 607 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: and thank you for calling in. Josh Fayetteville, North Carolina, 608 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: former marine who fought in the GWAT Hey, Josh, Hey Clay, 609 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, man, I'm buck, but plays great to 610 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, my man, Yeah, it was. I was over 611 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: there in Iraq and we had just left after looking 612 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: for Saddam when we went to Dubai for some training, 613 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: and over the radio while we were out there, they 614 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: talked about catching him and how great it felt with 615 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: may Light Armored Recon Company going all right, that's great, 616 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: but we all knew even with this guy and whatnot, 617 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: it's it's by cockroaches with a deep bench. As soon 618 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: as you get the main guy, you know, about a 619 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: month later somebody else steps up. But it is nice 620 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to know that they never sleep well again after that, 621 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: because once their name is known they know it's just 622 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: a matter of time before they catch a missile. Yeah, 623 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: but if they got twenty years to do it, they 624 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: can do a lot of damage. As we know. This 625 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: is part of the part of the issue. I think 626 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: as well, how long this effort to get justice really 627 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: took here, Josh, Thanks, thanks for your service, Thank you 628 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: for calling in. We got a lot going on here, 629 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: so we'll come back here to second we were just 630 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: talking about. I was talking about the Senate bill, about 631 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: burn Pitts situational, the mansion bill. He just appeared on 632 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Fox before I came on the air, talk to Harris Faulkner. 633 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Is it going to create inflation? Is it going to 634 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: raise taxes? A lot to discuss there, plus a whole 635 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of guests they're going to be joining us coming 636 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: up here. We have Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tennessee's 637 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: the mayor there, and Attorney General Mark Burnovich Arizona Senate candidate. 638 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: That's all coming up. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on 639 00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: the front lines. Three