WEBVTT - Defining Deviancy Down in New York

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another think peace for you from the Associated Press

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<v Speaker 1>out of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Monday proposed

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<v Speaker 1>cutting the penalty for public possession of a small amount

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<v Speaker 1>of marijuana. Andrew Cuomo proposed cutting the penalty for public

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<v Speaker 1>possession of a small amount of marijuana, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>change in state law that would diffuse some criticism of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Police Department stop and frisk policy in

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<v Speaker 1>minority communities. With three weeks remaining in the legislative session,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Cuomo said that his bill to reduce the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>misdemeanor to a violation with a fine up to hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars would save thousands of New Yorkers, disproportionately black and

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic youths, from unnecessary arrests and criminal charges. Governor Cuomo said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a blatant inconsistency. If you possess marijuana privately, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a violation. If you show it in public, it's a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incongrus it's inconsistent the way it's been enforced. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been additional complications in relation to the stop and

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<v Speaker 1>frisk policy, where there's claims at young people could have

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<v Speaker 1>a small amount of marijuana in their pocket. They're stopped there, frisked.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops says, turn out your pockets. The marijuana is

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<v Speaker 1>now in public view, and it just went from a

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<v Speaker 1>violation to a crime, and that's not good. New York

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<v Speaker 1>City prosecutors and the Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, whose office

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<v Speaker 1>has handled almost fifty thousands such cases last year, endorsed

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo's plan, as did Mayor Duomberg. Mayor Duomberg said the

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<v Speaker 1>bill largely mirrors the city police directive issued last year

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<v Speaker 1>for officers to issue violations, not misdemeanors, for small amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of marijuana to come into open view during a search.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you heard about this, I'm sure in the context

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<v Speaker 1>here's Duomberg wants to stop you from being able to

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<v Speaker 1>bind thing over sixteen ounces if it's a coke or

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<v Speaker 1>a PEPSI seven up or whatever. But he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>relax the penalties on small amounts of marijuana. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the point here. There's an in reading you the

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<v Speaker 1>details here, I wonder how many of you caught something

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<v Speaker 1>this This law disproportionately effects blacks and Hispanic youths. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Police commissioner said that his office handles fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>such criminal cases last year, and it's just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. It's not that big of violace that fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thou we've Let's let's take this from just a misdemeanor,

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<v Speaker 1>get really just called a violation and move on. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>what did moynihan say defining deviancy down it's too much

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<v Speaker 1>trouble to enforce this. Well, let's just say it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a crime anymore and be done with it. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know me, I care about the culture. I

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<v Speaker 1>care about the roots of our society. And my question

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<v Speaker 1>does does Governor Cuomo? Does Mayor Doomberg? I mean even

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<v Speaker 1>the police commissioner? Do they do they ask themselves why

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<v Speaker 1>this is an issue that disproportionately affects black and Hispanic youtes.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, are they not interested in why black

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<v Speaker 1>and Hispanic youths are the primary users here and do

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<v Speaker 1>they not care that that might be a problem or

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<v Speaker 1>are they saying, you know what, it's so many cases

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so much trouble and it's not really worth

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<v Speaker 1>it being a crime and misdemeanor. We just want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it the violence violation. Okay, So let's just change

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<v Speaker 1>the law so that these kids are not the targets anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of trying to figure out why this is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just change the law and it's no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. Um, I don't know it. It it bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>I care about the culture and the things that people

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<v Speaker 1>do that might be impediments to their future. That of

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<v Speaker 1>caught early and stopped could be helpful, But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>So in New York, from the governor on down, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just too big a hassle. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing in it to be targeting those two groups politically,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really nothing to gain. But targeting those two is

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<v Speaker 1>there sturdily. I mean, there's really nothing to be gained.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody wins when people sees black utes and

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic you. It's being reprimanded or or held to account

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<v Speaker 1>for small amounts of marijuanted. Nothing to be gained politically,

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<v Speaker 1>but it so let's just make it like it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>What surprised you in the story, snard Lee can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>they're allowed to frisk black and Hispanic you. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>New York like that, Well, it is called the stop

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<v Speaker 1>and frisk policy where the officer says, well, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can do it to anybody. But the officer turn

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<v Speaker 1>out your pockets and marijuana is now in public view.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just went from a violation to a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And without the stopping frisk, that had never found it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wouldn't have been a crime. It would it

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<v Speaker 1>would have stated violation, but nobody would have known about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, what this thing is, we don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>We just we don't want to know. It's called wash

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<v Speaker 1>our hands. We don't want to know. And they wonder, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind. By the way, we have learned, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Reverend Sharpton, MSNBC anchorman and journalists is going

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<v Speaker 1>to lead a silent march on Father's Day to bring

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<v Speaker 1>attention to New York stopping frisk policies. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna have to. They're they're gonna get a're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna well, no, take it back. He is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to getting rid of that. They're changing a law based

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<v Speaker 1>on what they find with stopping frisk. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>Sharpton on the MSNBC payroll when he is doing the

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<v Speaker 1>silent march. I well, I don't know, Snordle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's on the payroll, he gets paid per year.

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<v Speaker 1>I paid for what he does on MSNBC. Probably they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say at MSNBC they're paying him to do that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he's not being paid for that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would I wouldn't think. Uh. The real question is would

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<v Speaker 1>would they let Tom Brokaw do it or would they

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<v Speaker 1>let Brian Williams do it at at NBC. That's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're all trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>a silent march is here MSNBC anchorman and journalists. The

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend L. Sharpton leading a silent march on Father's Day

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<v Speaker 1>against the stop and frisk policy in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have a protest, even had a silent

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<v Speaker 1>march and nobody makes any noise, does the protest occur?

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<v Speaker 1>We might need Yogi Bearra to figure this out for us.

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<v Speaker 1>The reverence, sure, I've never heard of a silent march.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where you make no noise when you march

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<v Speaker 1>or walk? Is that where you don't say anything? Is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no megaphone