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Speaker 1: This is dated February twenty sixteen, twelve eleven PM from

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Speaker 1: left behind. You're pulling fluids as you used to. That's right,

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Speaker 1: you're pooling fluids. Oh. I at least hated that expression.

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Speaker 1: You use that many years ago when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: one of our friends. Well, yes, and he was leading

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Speaker 1: an unhealthy, unhygienic life. Something else that's popped up with

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Speaker 1: this is congenital syphilis. Infected mothers are passing the disease

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Speaker 1: onto their babies, and children can have severe health problems

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Speaker 1: when they get syphilis in the womb. Deafness and blindness

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Speaker 1: can result. There was only three hundred of these cases

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Speaker 1: a decade ago. There was almost three thousand last year.

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Speaker 1: So that's the growth in that particular outcome here. Well,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that's one hundred percent of voidable I have

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Speaker 1: no interest in. But you haven't asked the real question. Well,

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Speaker 1: so they're giving us all this information, do they what

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Speaker 1: do they want done? Well, I mentioned the condoms, but

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Speaker 1: they want to give out home test kits to people

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't want to go in

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Speaker 1: and they feel a little bit ashamed to be tested

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Speaker 1: for syphilis. So at least if they find out they

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Speaker 1: have syphilis, maybe they'll do the right thing and not

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Speaker 1: pass it on. But I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 1: certain kind of people they just don't care they're getting

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Speaker 1: the syphilis. They give the syphilis, and they wait until

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Speaker 1: which is the one that can make you go insane?

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Speaker 1: That syphilish or goneria one of them. I think it's syphilis. Syphilis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have it long enough, you really literally lose your mind.

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Speaker 1: It's it rages inside your body and yeah, inside your brain.

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Speaker 1: All right. We got more coming up. In addition to

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Speaker 1: the Coyotes, there's next Hour. There's been a new development

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Speaker 1: on the migrant bussing and plane trip front that we

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Speaker 1: need to talk about, and it is a lawsuit of course.

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Speaker 1: More coming up John and Ken Show and Mark Ronner

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Speaker 1: has the News caf I Am six forty oh, the

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Speaker 1: scourge of the coyotes, who are appearing more and more

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Speaker 1: in neighborhoods where people have not really seen much of

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Speaker 1: them before. And of course they're they're eating things, they're

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Speaker 1: eating pets. Some times they attack children. It's nasty and

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Speaker 1: you have to worry about rabies. We'll talk next hour.

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Speaker 1: The story is called inside the War on Urban Coyotes

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Speaker 1: because there's one group, it says, a victim basically by

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Speaker 1: any means necessary, and then there's the other side, who'd

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Speaker 1: be represented by Debra Mark. But she's not. I think

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Speaker 1: back until tomorrow, who would say, no, let's do this humanely,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to the coyotes and get them too. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: she walks around with a taser to defend herself against coyotes,

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Speaker 1: all right, but that won't kill them. No, But I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's scared of him. I'm scared of him. But she

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want people hunting them. She's not here. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: get a vote. We're talking last segment about the CDC

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Speaker 1: given out a warning that syphilis and other sexually transmitted

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Speaker 1: diseases are ramping up. One of the long time topics

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Speaker 1: on The John and Ken Show. And I guess the

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Speaker 1: expression I used, and that last segment was the pulling

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Speaker 1: of fluids. The pulling of fluids. Where is one place

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Speaker 1: where that could happen. It's a place that John Cope

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Speaker 1: Belt will not go. I don't know that you've ever

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Speaker 1: gone into a hot tub once. You did go once,

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Speaker 1: but it was on the radio because we we one

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Speaker 1: of our advertisers was a hot tub company, and I

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Speaker 1: did a show from a hot tub. This was you

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Speaker 1: know Myra, You know Myra. Yeah, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: I was not working with you. Then it was you

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Speaker 1: did a show in a hot tub nude? Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I had. I had swim trunks on. Isn't that a

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Speaker 1: little tricky with the equipment in the water. No, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: everything was set up outside the hot tub and they

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Speaker 1: just handed me the microphone and I sat in the

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Speaker 1: hot tub doing the show the way I remember it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so that was your first and only in last time?

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Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah, but it was a new hot tub.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else had been at it. Oh. I see so

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Speaker 1: that you say, you so you did have those concerns

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Speaker 1: even way back then. I always did. I mean, that's obvious.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like going on I don't like going into

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Speaker 1: public pools. No, no, I kind of hated urination going on.

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Speaker 1: I hated going into like hotel pools when the kids

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Speaker 1: are small, because you go on vacation and the kids

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Speaker 1: always want to go in the pool, right, and I

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Speaker 1: get assigned, so I gotta take them in and watch him,

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Speaker 1: so I actually have to get in the pool. Like

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Speaker 1: it was up to me, I would never get in

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Speaker 1: a pool. I don't like swimming. I don't like being

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Speaker 1: in water. I don't like being in public pools. You

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Speaker 1: don't never go in the ocean too, either, do you?

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Speaker 1: Not too far? I can't swim very well, so like

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Speaker 1: there's no upside. I might die. Well. People like it

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Speaker 1: because it's cool and refreshment. It's filled with children's urine.

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Speaker 1: Oh and the ocean is filled with all kinds of urine,

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Speaker 1: I mean every any every dangerous sharks and sharks, yeah,

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Speaker 1: jellyfish and little and regular pools. Little kids are pooping

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Speaker 1: all the time. Well, this story concerns the hot tub.

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Speaker 1: You know that expression that they've used over the years.

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Speaker 1: He died what he liked doing. Yeah. Well. Deward Hastings

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Speaker 1: is a seventy eight year old man in Berkeley, who

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Speaker 1: for many, many years told everybody, you're welcome to come

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Speaker 1: and sit in my hot tub, and tens of thousands

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Speaker 1: of locals and travelers over the years did get the

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Speaker 1: code to get into the yard and PLoP themselves in

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Speaker 1: dewards Berkeley Berkeley. Yes, yeah, you've seen what called him

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Speaker 1: the hot tub hippie. Yeah, right, I see a photo

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Speaker 1: of him. Yes, it does look like an old hippie,

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Speaker 1: but that would be his friends too, and all the

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Speaker 1: people who were attracted to this. So if you walked

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Speaker 1: into his yard and saw ten of them in the

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Speaker 1: hot tub, you'd run ten. There's probably tens of thousands. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean ten old dirty hippies are in that warter.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you ever cleaned the water? Probably not,

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Speaker 1: it's the same water. Well, the party's over because de

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Speaker 1: Ward is dead and he died in the hot tub. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably caught a terrible infection. Well, we don't know that.

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Speaker 1: You want to do the autopsy. But back to that again,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do the autopsy. No foul play

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Speaker 1: is expected, but is well it's kind of weird. He

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Speaker 1: was married, and then not married, and then married again

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Speaker 1: to a woman by the name of Sippa Sippa, Pardo

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Speaker 1: sip Sippa Sippa. She's the one that confirmed that she

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Speaker 1: found him in there about five o'clock of they afternoon

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Speaker 1: and unresponsive. She was married to him for twelve years

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Speaker 1: but has now been a strange from him for another

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Speaker 1: twelve years. But she's apparently his only next of kin.

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Speaker 1: They had no children. But back in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 1: he floated the idea of a communal hot tub. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is with a communal hot tub? Can you think

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Speaker 1: of anything more repulsive? So it looks like he built

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Speaker 1: some sort of a hot spring, So I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the bottom was or how he did this. He

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Speaker 1: opened his natural hot Springs operation in nineteen seventy five,

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Speaker 1: ran it out of his home, open to virtually anyone

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Speaker 1: who was looking to do this until the nineteen eighties

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Speaker 1: when he had to do a workaround because drunken crowd

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Speaker 1: stumbled into his house after heavy nights of drunk the

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Speaker 1: Berkeley Drunks, and so he put a complex loadcox load

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Speaker 1: complex lock code system to limit the number of visitors,

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Speaker 1: and that eventually came out to about sixty a day.

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Speaker 1: So sixty a day, there's not limited to sixty visitors

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Speaker 1: a day. There's not enough chlorine and a chlorine factory

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Speaker 1: to clean that. That sounds like quite the job, sixteen

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Speaker 1: people off the streets of Berkeley. I think he believed

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Speaker 1: that hot tubbing is a right, and yeah, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to provide. Probably died of a terrible skin infection, all right.

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Speaker 1: The stories inside the war against Southern California is urban

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Speaker 1: coyotes is in a horrific situation or a misunderstood situation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk to a torn City council member

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Speaker 1: or really a Mutucci next who apparently is on the

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Speaker 1: forefront of a group that does take aggressive action to

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Speaker 1: cut back the coyote population in their town. More coming

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Speaker 1: up Johnny Ken Show and Mark Runner has the news

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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty