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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nol.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined us always with our super producer Alexis code

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Speaker 4: named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are here. That

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Speaker 4: makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: If you're hearing this, The Evening publishes Congratulations, folks. We've

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Speaker 4: made it midway through July twenty twenty four and we

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Speaker 4: are joined with our favorite part of the show, you

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Speaker 4: and your fellow listeners. We're gonna hear about Nazi drugs.

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Speaker 4: It's a real thing. Still FedEx in the We've got

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Speaker 4: a great UAP story, a little bit more insurance. We've

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Speaker 4: been going through an insurance rabbit hole, and some responses

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Speaker 4: to our ideas about how best to create micro generation.

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Speaker 4: Before we do any of that, we were talking off

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Speaker 4: here about about something that really really stood out to

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Speaker 4: me and I think a lot of us in the

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Speaker 4: crowdsnight are going to identify it. With this I don't

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Speaker 4: know about you, guys, but I anthropomorphize so many inanimate objects.

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Speaker 4: I am in like deep, it's not quite parasocial, but

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Speaker 4: I'm in deep sustained relationships with weird things like the

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Speaker 4: good fork and so like.

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Speaker 3: The one that doesn't have the time, that somewhat bet

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Speaker 3: where it's giving you the finger. You guys, have you

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Speaker 3: ever seen those little hooks they use in bathrooms where

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Speaker 3: you can hang up like your jacket or whatever. If

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Speaker 3: you look at them, they kind of look like an

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Speaker 3: octopus that's trying to box with you. That's sort of

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Speaker 3: squinting an eye at you. You know, Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 3: Dude's whole Instagram accounts things that look like basins. There's

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Speaker 3: also one called like Sinister toilets. I really think it

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Speaker 4: So maybe for this as we get into tonight's program, uh,

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Speaker 4: just think along, look around your environment while you're while

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Speaker 4: you're hanging out with us this evening, folks, and tell

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Speaker 4: us right to us conspiracy diheartradio dot com, and tell

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Speaker 4: us your favorite inanimate object that you have ascribed a

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Speaker 4: personality too.

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Speaker 3: We want to learn all about.

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Speaker 4: It, especially if there's one that you anthropomorphize and don't

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Speaker 4: care for you know what.

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Speaker 3: I means, like a sinister toilet perhaps, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: it's time to jump into listener mail. This one comes

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Speaker 3: to us, uh via the side pocket kid, which I love.

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Speaker 3: I don't exactly know what that means, but I think

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Speaker 3: it's cool. I mean, I guess it's sort of like

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Speaker 3: a Western Yeah, oh, that's right, the side pocket. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I'm thinking of like our all pockets

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Speaker 3: on the side, But no, certainly some are on the

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Speaker 3: back and some are on the front. But traditional pants pockets,

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Speaker 3: you know, do reside on the side. But this is

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Speaker 3: most definitely a pool reference, a Billiard's reference.

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Speaker 4: Or pants kind of just themselves a pocket for your left.

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Speaker 3: Two open ends. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, everything is a

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Speaker 3: pocket if you really think about it. The ever anthromomorphized

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Speaker 3: pockets is that the good pocket?

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Speaker 2: I know what the good pocket is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah you do. Yeah, Well, it's always like, well it

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Speaker 3: depends side or what hands you write with.

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Speaker 4: I think every living entity or every entity in general,

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Speaker 4: has its own like personal mythology of these little beliefs,

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Speaker 4: like the idea that maybe the left hand is for

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Side. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, dude, have you ever been in a majority

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Speaker 3: I do like it when things are in the pocket,

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Speaker 3: as they say, which this email most definitely is. Ben

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Speaker 3: You tease it beautifully. Hey, guys, just listen to your

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Speaker 3: most recent strange news episode and I really enjoyed the

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Speaker 3: conversation about converting the heat from the ai GPUs into

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Speaker 3: by Bonnie Reva Rass, the deputy editor there at good Neet.

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Speaker 3: Going on with the email, thinking about all that Rabbit

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Speaker 3: hold me into thinking about the Venus Project, particularly about

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Speaker 3: I think the Venus Project would make an excellent episode,

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Speaker 3: into it kept me company on mini a car ride.

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Speaker 3: Feel free to use this on air. If you guys

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Speaker 3: find any value in it, you can call me side

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Speaker 3: pocket kid, cheers and say weird. I love everything about this.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those things where week I think, Matt,

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Speaker 3: This is a perfect example of parallel thinking or just

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Speaker 3: seeing a need where it just doesn't make sense for

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Speaker 3: this kind of technology not to exist. Unfortunately, as we know,

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Speaker 3: with many companies, their primary focus isn't necessarily helping the environment.

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Speaker 3: It is more making money for their shareholders and you know,

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Speaker 3: making their bottom line, and of course than some above

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Speaker 3: their bottom line preferably. But this pilot program, we'll get

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Speaker 3: bigger discussion for another day. But this program in Portland,

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Speaker 3: And we know hydroelectric power is already created by the

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Speaker 4: Very pollish and hydropower so cool.

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Speaker 3: Because we know hydropower already exists. I mean, we all

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Speaker 3: or wind. The system can generate electricity in any weather, anytime,

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Speaker 3: since water is always flowing through them and there's absolutely

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Speaker 3: no impact on water delivery or equality. Here comes a

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Speaker 3: But this is inside a pipe, so no fish or

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Speaker 3: endangered species are impacted. That's what's exciting. Lucid Energy designed

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Speaker 3: and installed four of these. Let's see forty two. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure what this jet with this metric is here.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a way of measuring kilowatt. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: got it, thank you. Forty two inch fifty kilt power

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Speaker 3: generating turbine pipes into one of the city's main water lines.

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Speaker 3: It says here too, since water utilities use a huge

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Speaker 3: I do think this is really really interesting. I don't

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Speaker 3: But I don't see how Matt's idea of just adding

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Speaker 2: Let's just make the GPU's waterproof, put them in the

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Speaker 4: I think the hydro power is the way to go,

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Speaker 4: power in Iceland. There's some great fascinating thing. First off side,

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Speaker 4: pocket kid S, if I could be familiar with you,

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Speaker 4: thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: I've been on a.

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Speaker 4: Little rabbit hole about exactly what an electrical technologist does,

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Speaker 4: and I find it amazing and important, so you must also,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure be well aware of the tidal power experiments

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Speaker 4: is tremendous opportunity here. The ideas are to the point

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Speaker 4: and no made earlier side pocket kit. The idea of

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Speaker 4: microgeneration and the threshold of scale is endlessly fascinating to

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Speaker 4: me because it's decentralizing in a way. It's decentralizing some

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Speaker 4: of microgenerators from all sorts of different energy sources, then

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Speaker 4: we're also we're addressing some of the problems of centralized

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Speaker 4: power sources, and we're addressing the all your chickens and

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Speaker 4: when all your eggs one kind of basket situation, because

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Speaker 4: then if for some reason one kind of power source

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Speaker 4: automatically have some backups baked in. It is an awesome idea.

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Speaker 4: It'd be really cool to roll it out and SPK

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Speaker 4: if you can write to us again and let us

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Speaker 4: know after you hear this, we'll follow up as well.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think this has not been rolled out

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Speaker 4: at a larger scale to Knowle's original question here, because

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Speaker 4: it really could be a game changer, and I think

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Speaker 3: Well, when I google like harnessing GPU for electric energy generation,

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Speaker 3: the only articles I get are talking about I guess,

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Speaker 3: I think there's something to it, guys, I really do.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned Jeff Arnold, we know you're still out there,

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Speaker 2: Marshall brain Ben I was thinking about conversations way back

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Speaker 2: nol I don't think you were here yet. Way back

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Speaker 2: I don't know whatever works science. That stuff gets me

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Speaker 5: He Matt ben Nol and super Producers. My name is

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Speaker 5: Burker the Berserker, and I have a UFO or a

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Speaker 5: By the way, I've always enjoyed your show. I'm a

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Speaker 5: And keep up the great contents, keep spreading the truth.

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Speaker 2: about the direction right northeast, legs pointing northeast, head pointing

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00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: south southeast, and then the way this thing traveled from

435
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: northwest to southeast. Because if we're talking from this location northwest,

436
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: that's along the coast, pretty much like heading up the

437
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: United States, and then heading southeast, that's heading down towards Mexico.

438
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Speaker 2: I don't know, do you guys have any thoughts on that.

439
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: I just really liked the story.

440
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Speaker 4: One of the first things to do here, or what

441
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Speaker 4: I would do if writing an episode on this, would

442
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Speaker 4: be obviously, and Matt you've probably already done this. You

443
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: have as well. I imagine Burger look up the closest

444
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: Air Force baces or closest compounds for experimental craft. That's one,

445
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, you build out the references. The weird thing

446
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: is increasingly it was a little more skeptical in this

447
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: back in earlier evenings. But the weird thing is, there

448
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: are provably strange things in the sky. There are real

449
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: UAP or what we would call UFOs. This doesn't mean

450
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: they're necessarily aliens, doesn't mean they're necessarily all top secret,

451
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: you know, skunk works projects, but there's definitely stuff out there.

452
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 4: One thing that we are always careful to do, and

453
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 4: it's a core tenant of our mission is not to

454
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Speaker 4: dismiss a siding out of hands, because that's incredibly unhelpful. Matt,

455
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Speaker 4: did you get a chance to speak with Burker directly

456
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Speaker 4: for any guesses on his part?

457
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Speaker 2: No, I did not, But well along those lines, my

458
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: guesses were Camp Pendleton, which is a pretty big name,

459
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: something we've heard before on the show. Even if you're not,

460
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: you know, close to military or have been in the

461
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 2: military before, Camp Pendleton is a big deal. It is

462
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Speaker 2: just I guess it would be northwest of this area,

463
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Speaker 2: actually just northwest of this specific Vista Caapri neighborhood in Oceanside, California,

464
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Speaker 2: which you know, there's a Marine Air Support squadron hanging

465
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Speaker 2: out right over there, the old you know airport that's

466
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Speaker 2: for military use only. There's also a raising canes by

467
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Speaker 2: the way, on that on Camp Pendleton, just like.

468
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that place was so like Bloodard.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a large Department of Homeland Security building that

470
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Speaker 2: is right on the coast basically if you headed straight

471
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Speaker 2: to the co from the house where Berserker was. I

472
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: don't know the shape, you guys, I want to know

473
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Speaker 2: more about that shape? Call in have you? Has anybody

474
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: heard of a check mark shaped craft like that? Because

475
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: it makes me think about some of the symbolism that

476
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Speaker 2: companies use.

477
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Speaker 3: You know, we talk.

478
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Speaker 2: About the well we have talked about before on the show,

479
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: the shape of the NASA on their logo. There's that

480
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: little wisp kind of thing that's on there, and what

481
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: that actually represented. What this the Nike thing actually may

482
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: have been a couple other things like that about shapes

483
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Speaker 2: of craft and shapes of you know or potential craft. Right,

484
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Speaker 2: there's cool stuff out there. What's the check.

485
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Speaker 4: Mark right to us? Especially if you were piloting the

486
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Speaker 4: check mark?

487
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh man from the CLB thirteenth Armory. I

488
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: don't know why they would be flying something like that though,

489
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: classic CLB. All right, so hey, let's jump to another

490
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Speaker 2: quick message here. This time from no One in particular. Guys,

491
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: I didn't know this, and I've always put in our

492
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: voicemail system as no space one in particular. We got

493
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: an email from this person and it is no one

494
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: like NWN, no One, no One.

495
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: In particular and Roan but no one.

496
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly like Rowan but no One. And this person

497
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: that we have come to know and love, had a

498
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Speaker 2: quick comment on something we were talking about about the

499
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Speaker 2: speed of life when we were just kind of briefly

500
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Speaker 2: mentioning that, and all I think you brought that up.

501
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Uh So here is no One's message.

502
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: This is no One in particular and as usual, you

503
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 6: are welcome to use this. No One mentioned apparent fluctuation

504
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Speaker 6: in the passage of time between being young and being old,

505
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Speaker 6: and it's far more than a parent I'm sure you're

506
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Speaker 6: about to mention, but I'd like to give you my

507
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: little take on it, which is that when you're vibe,

508
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 6: year is twenty percent of your life, whereas now that

509
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 6: I'm fifty, it's only two percent and seems to fly by.

510
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 6: Just something I thought about one day. You guys have

511
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 6: a great showy man.

512
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Speaker 2: I love that.

513
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Speaker 3: It makes me think of like the idea of dog years,

514
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: you know, the idea of like, what is the typical

515
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: span of a life and how does that compress and

516
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: contract to a being that inherently does not live as

517
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Speaker 3: long as a human being. And I think the answer

518
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: is simple. It's it's it's it's hugely important. Weeds as

519
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: humans are able to perceive it much more palpably than

520
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: obviously a dog or a cat, you know, or the

521
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: lizards live a really long time like alligators. But I

522
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: do think that matters, and like, how much of your

523
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: life have you lived, and as you live longer, that

524
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: percentage changes, doesn't it. That's I think that's I can't

525
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Speaker 3: believe I've never quite thought.

526
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Speaker 2: About it like that before. It's well put. I think

527
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: that is just yabe. That's what I really appreci shot

528
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: about it, and it makes you think about things different.

529
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking about my son's life and just you know,

530
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: he was talking about how the summers are feeling shorter,

531
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Speaker 2: right and he's only eight, Like, oh man.

532
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's sad. Thing that is so poetically melancholy, you know,

533
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: the summer is the seeming.

534
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Speaker 2: Well just basically commenting how it feels like it's going

535
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: by fast. But in the end. For his perception, it's

536
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: actually good because he's done a lot this summer. Right

537
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: back in the day, summers were a lot less filled

538
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Speaker 2: with going places and doing things and traveling. I think

539
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: it means hopefully that his life is more full than.

540
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Speaker 3: It was before.

541
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Speaker 2: At least that's the way I often think about it

542
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: when I think about how quick stuff goes. Think about, guys,

543
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: do you ever get that feeling when you look at

544
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: our listener mail Strange News doc just about how many

545
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: episodes of this particular thing we have done? And it

546
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: to me, the perception is that we just started making

547
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: these episodes.

548
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Speaker 4: I still can't believe that what I was doing the

549
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: daily Strange News, I can't believe how many like that

550
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: was years ago now, right.

551
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: Ben did start this, well, this whole set of segments

552
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Speaker 2: as as it's open show.

553
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Speaker 4: I saw something that compiled the number of total stuff

554
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Speaker 4: they don't want you to know episodes or segments that

555
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: we have. And it's crazy because folks in full transparency.

556
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Speaker 4: I think one time we tried to count them and

557
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: we could. I don't remember if we could figure it out.

558
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Speaker 4: Did we ever nail down to write the correct thing?

559
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Speaker 4: I can't remember.

560
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Speaker 3: I don't know. The number is I think less impressive

561
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: to me. I mean it it's obviously an artifact of

562
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Speaker 3: this phenomenon that we're describing. But it's like every time

563
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Speaker 3: I see it's it's the ten year anniversary of X

564
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: record that was like a big deal to me or whatever,

565
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, no, that's the new one, that's

566
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Speaker 3: the new Arcade Fire record. You know, like, oh my god,

567
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: to think too about things like nineteen ninety is as

568
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Speaker 3: far away from now as like nineteen twenty was from nineteen,

569
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Speaker 3: you know, sixty or whatever. I mean, I'm bad at math,

570
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: but you see what I'm saying. It's all about where

571
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: you stand and your perception of time, and it does

572
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: change as you get older, but not always for the worse.

573
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Speaker 3: I would argue, I don't know, necessarily feel like my

574
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: life is slipping away. I feel like in a lot

575
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Speaker 3: of ways I'm able to enjoy it a little more

576
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Speaker 3: and really, you know, kind of lean in and sort

577
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Speaker 3: of make a meal of it. I don't know why

578
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't always feel like it's a negative thing. It

579
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Speaker 3: just is a phenomenon that I find very.

580
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Speaker 4: Remarkable, and I also, in particular love the percentage observation there.

581
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: I think that is quite well put and quite astute.

582
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: We're a big fan of yours over on this show.

583
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: Also want to point out that I was reading this

584
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: fascinating study on the nature of regret as people age,

585
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: right when you when you get counted as elderly in

586
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: a different population or culture, and people don't regret things

587
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 4: as often as we might assume, like when you're a

588
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: younger person and you think, oh, this is the worst,

589
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: this is the worst thing. You know, I got an

590
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: F on a test, or I didn't get the you know,

591
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: I didn't get my jury duty audition or whatever. And

592
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: I think it's really important to remember that these things

593
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: that can seem very big in the moment, often people

594
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: look back they don't feel that they were led wrong,

595
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 4: or they don't feel that it was a mistake. So,

596
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: without at the risk of sounding soaboxy and or trite,

597
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: it's very important to remember that because you have a

598
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: problem with one tree, it doesn't mean the entire forest

599
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: is bad. And sometimes the only way out of a

600
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: situation is through that situation. So we've got your back.

601
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Don't break laws. We're required to say, don't break laws,

602
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: but I think it's just important to hear that sometimes

603
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: that even when things seem that their most dire and

604
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: their most dark, there's always something worth sticking around for.

605
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: That's right, got a bad tree, Chop that down. Ah,

606
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm just choking out on it. Don't do it. Don't

607
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: hurt the trees. We need the trees, all right. Well,

608
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: thanks so much, and hey, if you've got something to say,

609
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: you want to call us, we'll tell you how to

610
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: do that at the end of this episode. Thanks so

611
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: much to everybody.

612
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Speaker 3: Else. A frame.

613
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Speaker 2: We got one for you in the docket for this episode,

614
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Speaker 2: but we're going to get to it at a different time.

615
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: I'll just quickly mention it here. He came to us

616
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Speaker 2: with some real world experience about why certain insurance companies

617
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: are moving out of certain areas, so I think maybe

618
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Speaker 2: we can use that for a further exploration on that subject.

619
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Speaker 2: But it was not what you would think. He lives

620
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Speaker 2: in an area where wildfires have traditionally been the problem.

621
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Speaker 2: It's not the wildfires that are making it untenable for

622
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: or at least the perception of being unt tenable to

623
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: have insurance in certain areas for these insurance companies. It's

624
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: some compounded. Other problem that's added on to what they

625
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: usually already are paying, you know, paying out for wildfires

626
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: in an area that's susceptible to those is when there's

627
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: now flooding in that area too, and they're like, now

628
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: we got to get out of here. Or in his case,

629
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: I think it was hailstorms or something. It was something crazy.

630
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: What All right, that's different. Now we'll be right back

631
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: with more messages from you.

632
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Speaker 4: And we have returned with a couple of things that

633
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 4: was squirreling away from a conversation with a good friend

634
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: of the show, Rebel on Instagram. I almost didn't want

635
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: to bring these up. Some of these are not news,

636
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: so it might hold them for a different show that

637
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: we do. But Rebel wrote to us recently with something

638
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: that absolutely blew my mind. Nazi drugs or sweeping Europe

639
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: Nazi drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get into it

640
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: before before you get to our speed. Even weirder MDMA,

641
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: which you don't usually associate with the Militant for Right

642
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: of Neo Nazis, but this has been happening for a

643
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: number of years. Apparently at the end of twenty twenty three,

644
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: we'll go to Vice for this excellent article by Simon Doherty.

645
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: The end of twenty twenty three, police in the Netherlands

646
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: pulled over a guy in a car who ignored a

647
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 4: stop sign. He was not an autonomous driver. He was driving,

648
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Speaker 4: and the cops quickly noticed three things. One his license

649
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: is not valid, no good. Two he's clearly high on something.

650
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: And three in the passenger seat, in the shotgun seat

651
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: right next to him is this huge bag, like a

652
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: trash bag of ecstasy pills that are all stamped with

653
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 4: Nazi branding, with Nazi insignia. It's the eagle symbol from

654
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: the actual facts Nazis, as our Palor and vocal Bam

655
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: would say.

656
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: Those were really popular nineties rave culture. Man. You had

657
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: the Mitsubishies, the Pokemon and the Nazi Eagles. Those were

658
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 3: the real banger what they call them rolls.

659
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: Right right, and so this the symbol. You can find

660
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: this article easily. The symbol was, as we know, developed

661
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: by the Nazi Party in the twenties, sometimes called the

662
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: Imperial Eagle. They also found in addition to these Nazi tablets,

663
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: the cops found half a kilogram of weed or cannabis

664
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: and one hundred grams of cocaine. I don't know enough

665
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: about cocaine to know if one hundred grams is a lot,

666
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 4: but it sounds like a lot.

667
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: Is it a lot?

668
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: It's a lot?

669
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: A lot. It's like, what's a kilo? A kilo is

670
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm bad at weights and measures in addition to math

671
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: they mentioned earlier, But a kilo tends to be the

672
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: standard brick of you know what, you would be a

673
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: unit of the largest quantity you have, like a giant,

674
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: you know, quantity of kilos in a smuggling operation, a

675
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: plane or what have you. But a kilo would be

676
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: the smallest units of that.

677
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: If you're moving weight, right, Yeah, akilo is two point

678
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: two pounds, So if this is half a kilo, that'd

679
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: be like a little over a pound. Still, that's a

680
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: lot of that's a lot of weak, you know, for

681
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: your afternoon drive. It seems like he was probably going

682
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: somewhere instead of just taking a fun road trip to

683
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: get out in the open road. It's strange because furthermore

684
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: we found here and revel thank you again for hippiness

685
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: to this. This was not an isolated incident. It appears

686
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: that there are there is a trend of illegal drugs

687
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: going out through Europe stamped with Nazi insignia, and just

688
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: to me, it's so confusing because you know, I'm I'm okay,

689
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: I'm kind of square though in full, in full honesty,

690
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: I don't know what the effects of ecstasy are like

691
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: experientially or MDMA, but I always pictured it as sort

692
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: of a more lovey dovey thing.

693
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's funny you should say that, Ben. Just this

694
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 3: immediately made me think of a song by a kind

695
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: of jam band supergroup called oyster Head, which was Les

696
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: Claypool from Primus on the bass, Trey Anastasio from Fish

697
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: on the guitar, and Stuart Copeland from the Police on

698
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: the drums. And I think they maybe had two albums,

699
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: but on their first album they have a song called

700
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: Armies on Ecstasy, and the lyric is the Army's on Ecstasy.

701
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: So they say, I read all about it in USA

702
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: today they stepped up urine testing to make it go

703
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 3: away because it's hard to kill the enemy on old MDMA. Because, yes,

704
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: to your point, Ben, it does give you the love vibes.

705
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: It's a real love fest. That's the whole point of MDMA.

706
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: It's not conducive to berserker type behavior.

707
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Burger, but this is yeah, okay, So I'm

708
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: glad to know that perception of from the outside looking

709
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: in is correct. The folks advice stumble on what may

710
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: well be a conspiracy regarding this the idea. We know

711
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: that there's kind of a what the boffins we'll call

712
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: a far right surge in Europe like the political theater there.

713
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: We also know that France got really close to having

714
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: a fascist government, just like.

715
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: Last the other day.

716
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so excuse the voice.

717
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: There by the way, apparently when she lost, which the

718
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: internet is making hay with, you know, which I'm fully behind.

719
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: But you know it's it's a big deal to everybody

720
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 4: who runs for any kind of political office, to be fair.

721
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: But here's the possible conspiracy. What if this far right

722
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: surge is being sort of buoyed up by being associated

723
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 4: with fun drugs? What if this is like an underground

724
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: pr propaganda campaign for lack of a better word. Do

725
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: we think that's possible. I'm honestly asking because I think

726
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: it could be a brilliant move for politicians in the US.

727
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I quite follow to what end exactly

728
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: like propaganda in whose favor.

729
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: To get people to support far right or Nazi like

730
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: ideology by being associated.

731
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: With something good vibes. Yeah, okay, I follow you. I'm

732
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: picking up what you're putting down. Yeah, in the parlance

733
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: of you.

734
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Know, the hippies popping beans and crosses, that's what we

735
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: do here.

736
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: Clarence Thomas can't be all bad. Look at how much

737
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: weed he gave me earlier.

738
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: But it was total dirt weed though, had stems in

739
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: it and seeds and everything.

740
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: And he just got it from some guy as a gift.

741
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, next time, we're just texting alido.

742
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: But the bales of the stuff.

743
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: The bales of it. So it appears that this trend

744
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 4: has extended to the supply of cocaine as well. In

745
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, some folks that apport in northern Peru

746
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 4: caught some smugglers and these guys have fifty eight kilograms

747
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: of cocaine destined for Belgium. And to your point about transportational,

748
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: each individual kilo was wrapped in Nazi regalia, which is

749
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: not the most subtle way to sneak stuff through international borders.

750
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 4: Please don't look at my Nazi ricks.

751
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: Yes without the insignia stamped into the powder. That doesn't

752
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: seem very smart or very likely. But again, at the

753
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: time though, they sort of had cart blots to do

754
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: whatever they wanted, and maybe they were just like really

755
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: just didn't give it f you know.

756
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe there's some internal logic, like the.

757
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: Nazis would have loved cocaine. I mean, I'm just saying

758
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: like that. We know about them taking amphetamines. You don't

759
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: really hear much about cocaine per se, but amphetamines was

760
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: just the order of the day. I mean, everyone was

761
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: taking that stuff, you know, the pilots. Hitler apparently it.

762
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: Was like one of his main things. It was not

763
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: his main thing, but it was one of his things.

764
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: But we also had another main thing.

765
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had another main thing. There's We also know

766
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: that authorities are still trying to suss out this international

767
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: conspiracy because they're not sure whether this kind of branding

768
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: was ordered by neo Nazi gangs who are selling drugs,

769
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 4: or whether it's unaffiliated drug gangs that have Neo Nazis

770
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: as their prime demographica customer. They really don't know, but

771
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: we do know this seems to be a continuing trend.

772
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: So I want to thank vice again, think you rebel

773
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: because we didn't see a lot of news about this

774
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: or I don't know, had you guys heard about this beforehand?

775
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: Not once.

776
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 4: I'm glad that we haven't, because you know, I think

777
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 4: it speaks to our character that we're not plugged into

778
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: the world a neo Nazi cocaine, you know what I mean, Chestnut,

779
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: They may this is interesting, Like I would love to

780
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: hear people's thoughts on this conspiracy diheartradio dot com, just

781
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: because it gives us. I think it's a door into

782
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: something else, into a larger trend, you know. And we

783
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: know that a lot of groups have not considered themselves

784
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: drug cartels per se, but they get involved in the

785
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: drug business because it is such a reliable form of income, right, Like,

786
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: aren't like biker gangs, Are they still big with drugs

787
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: here in the US?

788
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

789
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: I think so if what is it? Sons of anarchy

790
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: has anything to say, Oh that's right, yes.

791
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Yes, So we we do want to hear from you

792
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: in this regard, folks, because it sounds like there's something

793
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: bigger at play. I want to dig into this and

794
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: it's not. Yeah, I think this one got some headlines

795
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: just because it seems counterintuitive for Nazis to be super

796
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: into you know, ecstasy or as you said, Noel, those

797
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: kind of lovey dove fhiel good drugs. But it also,

798
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it could touch other ideologies.

799
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: I'm interested in learning the mechanism. Also shout out to

800
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 4: you Rebel one last time before he closed, for hipping

801
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: me to that story about scientists dosing octopuses with him.

802
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: Dma, oh that's a good idea. That's just fafo.

803
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: Before we get out of this, I just really quickly

804
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: been you probed something in my mind with the motorcycle gangs.

805
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Did you guys remember seeing that story a couple of

806
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: weeks back about the Baker's Field Hell's Angels how the

807
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: entirety of the motorcycle club in Bakersfield got arrested, but

808
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: not for selling drugs. It was for assaults, kidnapping, robbery,

809
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other things. But every single member

810
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: I got picked up.

811
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: Do we know how many people were talking?

812
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: It's like, oh gosh, it wasn't even that many. I

813
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: think it was small. It was just like seven human beings.

814
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: But it was the entire Bakersfield Hell's Army crew that's crazy.

815
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: They might have got recoded.

816
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: That's nuts. Oh that makes sense. Yeah, that's how you

817
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: scoop up a bunch of them, right, isn't that sort

818
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: of the deal? Yeah? Yeah.

819
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: It also reminds me. I didn't talk about this on air,

820
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: but we were talking about road trips stay in my

821
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: head pretty often. It's a good pursuit. I don't know

822
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 4: about you guys, but I like to take the back

823
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: roads whenever possible. That's where you get to see more

824
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: of the real world. And I remember quite recently I

825
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: had to go to the coast of the Atlantic Ocean,

826
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: and I took back roads on the return leg, and

827
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: I ran into so many sketchy looking motorcycle clubs, And

828
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: we got a lot of bikers in the audience tonight.

829
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: We're glad you're here.

830
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 4: We know that that very small amount of biker gangs

831
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: are actually what we would consider criminal organizations, called one

832
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 4: what have you. But I would love to hear from

833
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: someone on the inside who's had experience with this, like

834
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 4: former outlaw bikers, former Hell's Angels, and so on. Do

835
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 4: you think do you think we have a good chance

836
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: of getting someone there or should we just stick with

837
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: the doped up octopus and view one of those.

838
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: Doped up octopus. It reminds me back at the beginning

839
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: of the episode where you're talking about the anthropomorphic items

840
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: and you got the little creepy hook guy, you know,

841
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: in the bathroom trying to get into fisticuffs with you.

842
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing this thing with my fists right now, like

843
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: the fighting Irish. It looks good.

844
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: I think we need to get in with the Freemason's RC.

845
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: All right, they're the Masonic Riding Club. We need we

846
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: need to get into those guys.

847
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: Creative writing, creative Masonic writing.

848
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: They're a secret from the Shriners, right, Oh, I think.

849
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: So they have the little cars.

850
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 1: What is wanted?

851
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: One of those sick little cars?

852
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: So I have to say I had a dream the

853
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: other night that all three of us were in an

854
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: improv show to get there, and I woke up and

855
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: just immediately like, we got to take improv class together.

856
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: I know you've mentioned that a million times, Ben, but

857
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm just doubling down on that. I think it would

858
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: be super fun because in my dream we were really

859
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: good at it, and you know, it's kind of what

860
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: we do here to a agree. So we had to

861
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: we had to try that sometime.

862
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everybody should have a little fun with improv. Yeah,

863
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 4: it's just it's just good to do no matter what

864
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 4: your job is. It'll help you be a better communicator

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Speaker 4: and more importantly, a better listener, which is what I

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Speaker 4: really had to work on.

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Speaker 2: All of us need to work on that for sure.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to keep going and talking instead of

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Speaker 2: listening and telling you guys that the Iron Knights Masonic

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Speaker 2: Writers are in Grovetown, Georgia. We need to go shut

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Speaker 2: them out.

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Speaker 3: That's right near my neck where I grew up. And

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Speaker 3: again that's right like in my neck of the woods.

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Speaker 3: I know Grovetown very well. I didn't know anything about

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Speaker 3: that being the case, though, I have to say, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing that just show up and act like

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Speaker 4: we belong there there, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Interview mode, yes, and them into exactly.

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Speaker 4: There's something else we would need to look for, look

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Speaker 4: out for if we're on the road to Grovetown and

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Speaker 4: this is our last thing tonight inste have a letter

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Speaker 4: from home. Our longtime friend of the show, Brock aka

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Speaker 4: the brock Nest Monster, has written and hipped us to

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Speaker 4: something frightening it's been kind of an on the road

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Speaker 4: week for us, and in that we're talking about a

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Speaker 4: lot of automotive conspiracies. I did not know this until

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Speaker 4: Brock told us. But FedEx has their own police force

888
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Speaker 4: and they've had it for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Wait for like investigating, or for guarding and protecting.

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Speaker 4: Guarding, protecting. Yeah, there's a that kind of stuff. There's

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Speaker 4: an excellent Forbes article by Thomas Brewster that came out

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Speaker 4: that hipped us to this. Forbes recently learned that FedEx

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Speaker 4: is using some AI tools by a company called Flock

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Speaker 4: Safety four billion dollars startup for car survey, and it's

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Speaker 4: monitoring its cargo and distro facilities across the US. It's

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Speaker 4: also providing the information that gets to law enforcement, which

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Speaker 4: is not inherently unusual. You know a lot of companies,

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Speaker 4: a lot of private companies do that even without being

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Speaker 4: forced to do so. They volunteer it. But it appears

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Speaker 4: that local police departments are also giving their own surveillance

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Speaker 4: and Flock feeds back to FedEx. It's a two way street.

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Speaker 4: They're building a public private surveillance apparatus.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, sound very good.

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Speaker 2: Match it up with all the nest cams or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know, all the.

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Speaker 3: Did we talk about did we talk about those nest

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Speaker 3: cams that like will shoot paintballs at people? The startup company. Yeah,

908
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Speaker 3: it was like, I mean, yeah, maybe I mentioned it

909
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Speaker 3: just like in conversation or not on the show, But

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Speaker 3: there was like a sum like gofund me for a

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Speaker 3: home ring cam type situation that will threaten you with

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Speaker 3: like a automated voice saying intruder, identify yourself or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and if not, then it will help you with paintballs. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's really without sounding hyperbolic, it's a

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Speaker 4: brave new world.

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Speaker 3: We're not ready.

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Speaker 4: Civilization's not ready for the technology that's rolling out at scale.

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Speaker 4: Folks like the Electronic Frontier Foundation in the case of

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Speaker 4: FedEx and Flock network, they are very concerned that this

920
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Speaker 4: could go wrong quickly because, simply put, private entities are

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Speaker 4: not subject to the same transparency laws that police are

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Speaker 4: in theory subject to, So this could extend a silent,

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Speaker 4: unseen mass surveillance network and it might be legal for

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Speaker 4: the public to be left in the dark about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, Flock apparently specializes in license plate reading too,

926
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Speaker 2: so just quick fix everybody make sure your license plate

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Speaker 2: isn't facing the street.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you live in a state like where

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Speaker 4: you don't have to have a license plate on both

931
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Speaker 4: ends of the car. We could also see a world

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Speaker 4: in where this information is leveraged and collated with information

933
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Speaker 4: that leads to targeted pricing. Shout out to Geist, you

934
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Speaker 4: know what I mean? What if they have they I

935
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Speaker 4: don't want to sound too paranoid, but what if these

936
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Speaker 4: different types of apparatus can be combined into an uber

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Speaker 4: pad opticon right, an uber state that always has its

938
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Speaker 4: eyes on you, never blinks, and can never be identified

939
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Speaker 4: or held to account. That's the question. Let us know

940
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Speaker 4: if that's crazy talk, if that's a whole bunch of

941
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: you know, sound and fury signify nothing, or if there's

942
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: some sand to it. We want to hear from you.

943
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 4: Thanks to Burker no One in particular, the side pocket

944
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: Kid SPK to those in the know, Thanks to Rebel,

945
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: and shout out to the people we haven't gotten back

946
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: to yet. Very excited for radical moderate as you said

947
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: a Frame and several other folks. We want you to

948
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Speaker 4: join up with us. Thanks for tuning in and holler back.

949
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Speaker 4: We tried to be easy to find online.

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Speaker 3: Yah, we ain't no hollerbacker, but holler back at s. Indeed,

951
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Speaker 3: that was a really dated reference, but it is what

952
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: it is. We're old time is weird. It compresses and contracts,

953
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: the percentages, all of that stuff. You can find us

954
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: online where we exist the handle conspiracy stuff on YouTube

955
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: with video content coming at you on the regular, on

956
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: x FKA, Twitter, and on Facebook with our Facebook group.

957
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: Here's where it gets crazy. On Instagram and TikTok, we're

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00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: conspiracy stuff show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you want to call us? Why not call

960
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: one eight three three std WYTK. Put the number in

961
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: your phone, save it with a contact and a picture

962
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: of whatever creepy thing you find around you. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: close up of an ant.

964
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Speaker 3: Put that in there. That's us now.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, I don't know why I'm doing this. Once

966
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Speaker 2: you've got that contact in there and you've chosen to

967
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: call us, it may call you back. That's why we're

968
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: asking you to do that. When you call in, give

969
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 2: yourself a cool nickname, can be anything. You've got three minutes,

970
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: say whatever you'd like do, include whether or not we

971
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: can use your name and message on the air, and

972
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: if you've gotten more than you can fit into a

973
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: three minute voicemail message, why not instead send us a

974
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: good old fashion email. We are the entities read.

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Speaker 4: Every single piece of correspondence we receive. Forgot to add

976
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Speaker 4: the most important question here you think we started with this.

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Speaker 4: Tell Us about the inanimate objects that you have personified

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Speaker 4: or anthropomorphized. Tell Us about the good fork, the bad spoon.

979
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: Tell us the pants that you do or don't trust

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00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: Our pants themselves just pockets. Reveal to us your wisdom

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Speaker 4: on all these questions and more conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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