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That's alll bi rds 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: dot com. It has long been accepted that time as 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we know it, or at the very least in the 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: sense that we experience it, is not what it seems, or, 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: as Albert Einstein put it, the past, the present, and 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: the future is but a stubborn, persistent illusion. It would 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: seem that we have long been mesmerized by the notion 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: of traveling through time, whether it be to write a 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: past wrong or merely to escape our present reality. But 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't until Einstein's special relativity introduced us to the 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: tantalizing concept of space, time, and the fourth dimension that 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: such notions were given mathematical credibility. No longer was time 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: a mere subjective unit of measurement, but suddenly we were 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: invited to imagine it as a space within which we 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: might move, a theory that, as the earlier quote suggests, 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: did away entirely with any notion of past, present, and future. Or, 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: to be clearer, as physicist Max Tegmark notes, time is 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: not an illusion, but the flow of time is for 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: much in the way that matter may appear differently from 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: one observer to the next, So two, according to Einstein, 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: does time. Incidentally, although the concept of space time is 39 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: often linked with Einstein, it was actually his teacher Hermann Minkowski, 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: who first proposed the idea back in nineteen oh eight 41 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: in a paper titled Space and Time. Remarkably, author Edgar 42 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Allan Poe is believed to have come to the same 43 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: realization himself as far back as eighteen forty eight, writing 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: in an essay titled Eureka, that space and duration are one. Certainly, 45 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: it is an area that has been well explored in fiction. 46 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: The oddly Unsettling nineteen seventies television show Sapphire and Steele 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and Joan Lindsay's Haunting and Mesmeric Picnic at Hanging Rock 48 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: are two of my favorite accounts of one such temporal 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: corruption that is equal parts fascinating and terrifying. The notion 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: of the time slip you're listening to unexplained and I'm 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Richard McClean smith. To paranormal researchers, the fabled time slip 52 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: is considered to be the rarest of all documented paranormal experience, 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: the most well known account of such an event being 54 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: the Mobile jur Dan incident. The event is alleged to 55 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: have occurred on Saturday August tenth, nineteen o one, at 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: the Palace of Versailles. In France, when two British women 57 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: visiting the palace on a day trip claimed to have 58 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: found themselves inexplicably transported back to the late eighteenth century, 59 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: to be surrounded by Pallace courtiers and even at one 60 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: point crossing paths with Mary Antoinette. The women, Charlotte Mobiley 61 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and Eleanor Jourdan, were both well educated and had no 62 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: obvious reason to fabricate the events, and published a book 63 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: of their account in nineteen eleven, which was predictably met 64 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: with much ridicule. There are two accounts of alleged time 65 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: slips that took place in Britain in the nineteen fifties. 66 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: The writer and longtime member of the Society of Psychical 67 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: Research Andrew McKenzie documented both the events in his nineteen 68 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: ninety seven book Adventures in Time. For McKenzie, the accounts 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: were nothing less than two of the most convincing that 70 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: he had ever come across, mysteries that remained to this 71 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: day unexplained. On Monday, January the second, nineteen fifty as 72 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: the new decade entered its third day, so too did 73 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: the New Year's celebrations, as is customary in Scotland. In 74 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: a small house in the town of Brecon in the 75 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: eastern County of Angus. A cocktail party is coming to 76 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: an end. Sensing that the party was beginning to wind down, 77 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: one of the guests, fifty five year old Miss Elizabeth Smith, 78 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: decided to call it a night. It was, after all, 79 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: getting late, and Elizabeth wasn't much relishing the ten mile 80 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: drive back to her house in Leatham. After saying good 81 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: bye to her friends, she collected her small terrier dog 82 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: that she had brought with her, and together they climbed 83 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: into her car in preparation for the journey home. It 84 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: had been a relatively mild winter, but the last few 85 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: days had seen a light dusting of snow along much 86 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: of the East Coast, snow that by nightfall on the 87 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: second had turned steadily to ice. Undeterred, Elizabeth switched on 88 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: the engine and pulled off into the night. A short 89 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: time later, not more than two miles outside of Brecon, 90 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Elizabeth lost control of the car, spun off the road 91 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and plummeted straight into a ditch. Miraculously, neither Elizabeth nor 92 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: her small canine companion were harmed, but the car was 93 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: completely written off. Relieved and more than a little dazed, 94 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: but the temperature outside steadily dropping, Elizabeth knew she had 95 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: only two options, returned to her friend's home or strike 96 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: out on the eight mile journey back to leathm Deciding 97 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: on the latter, Elizabeth gathered her things and, together with 98 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: her dog, she set out on the long walk home. 99 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: At first, Elizabeth was at ease taking the deserted country 100 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: lane back towards her village. She felt safe with her 101 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: dog by her side, cheerily keeping her company. But it 102 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: was hard to ignore the strange sense of foreboding that 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: is wont to arise when you are out in the wilderness, 104 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: with no light to be seen, and even the moon 105 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: declines to reveal itself. Such was the thickness of cloud 106 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: it was difficult even to make out the contours of 107 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: the surrounding fields save for the dark silhouettes of hedgerows 108 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: and trees dotted about like thick, formless shadows. It wasn't 109 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: long before the eerie quietude of the night started to 110 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: gnaw away at her nerves, so much so that Elizabeth 111 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: neglected to take the well trodden shortcut through the field. 112 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Better to stick to the open country, she thought, than 113 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: venture nearer to the ominous looking woodlands to her left. 114 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: With the temperature dropping even further, Elizabeth and her little 115 00:07:54,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: dog plowed on gallantly towards their destination. Roughly too miles 116 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: from leatherm Elizabeth's dog began to tire, leaving Smith with 117 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: little choice but to pick him up and carry him 118 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: on her shoulders. Less than half a mile later, Smith 119 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: was hugely relieved when she was able to make out 120 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the distant rise of Dunichen Hill, a clear sign that 121 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: she was almost home. And so it was with little 122 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: surprise when she saw a few small lights in the distance. 123 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Only there was something odd about them. Firstly, it was strange, 124 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: she thought, why so many lights would be on when 125 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: it was almost two o'clock in the morning. But what 126 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: was perhaps even more unusual was that the lights, unless 127 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: she was mistaken, appeared to be moving. A short time later, 128 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: not only had the number of lights increased dramatically, but 129 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: she soon realized with some surprise that each of the 130 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: lights were being held aloft in the air by strange, 131 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: shadowy figures. The lights were in fact flaming torches being 132 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: held aloft by men wearing dark tunics with roll collars 133 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: and tights. What was also odd was the manner in 134 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: which they were moving. Rather than walking straight across the field, 135 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: they seemed to be skirting in a semicircle around the 136 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: bottom of it. But then the figures disappeared, only to 137 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: be replaced by another set of men in the field 138 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: to her left, who were this time close enough for 139 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: her to notice that the torches seemed to be strangely 140 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: red in color. At this point, Elizabeth's dog, sensing the 141 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: peculiarity of the occasion, began to bark, much to Elizabeth's alarm. 142 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Trying to ignore the strange men, she hurried on towards home. 143 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: But the most extraordinary vision was yet to come. Not 144 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: long after, a third set of men appeared, even closer 145 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: than the previous groups. She could see them clearly now 146 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: as they made their way through the field, just like before, 147 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: with their burning torches held aloft. But they weren't merely 148 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: marching as she had first thought. This group seemed to 149 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: be moving much more diligently and with purpose throughout the field. 150 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: Elizabeth wondered why it was that they would stop from 151 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: time to time, bringing the torches close to the ground, 152 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and that was when she saw them. The bloodied corpses 153 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: of the dead. It was as if she had wandered 154 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: into the aftermath of some great and ancient battle. The 155 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: field was littered with them. The men with torches were 156 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: clearly scouring the ground to see if anyone was left alive, 157 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: turning the bodies over in the darkness to check for 158 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: signs of life. Smith and her dog eventually made it 159 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: home safe and sound, but unsurprisingly, the ghosts of those 160 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: dead never truly left her. However, it wasn't until a 161 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: further twenty years later that Smith's account of the extraordinary 162 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: event was formerly recorded. The task was taken up by 163 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: fifty four year old doctor James mc carg, a much 164 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: respected and well loved psychologist and contemporary of Andrew McKenzie 165 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: at the Society for Psychical Research. In the intervening years, 166 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Smith had come to the realization that what she had 167 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: seen had indeed something to do with an ancient battle 168 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: once fought on the very land she had walked across. 169 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: After spending some considerable time interviewing Smith, mac carg was 170 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: left with little doubt that she had somehow slipped back 171 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: in time and witnessed the aftermath of a brutal and 172 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: bloody battle known as the Battle of Necton's Mere. The 173 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: battle occurred in six hundred and eighty five, a d 174 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: between the Picks, an enigmatic tribal people from what is 175 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: now the north and east of Scotland, and the Northumbrians. 176 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: Fifty years previously, the Kingdom of Northumbria, led by King Edwin, 177 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: had risen to become the most powerful in all of 178 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: the British isles, but by the end of the seventh 179 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: century the kingdom had diminished considerably, thanks largely to the 180 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: disastrous defeat they suffered at the hands of the Picks 181 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: at the Battle of Necton's Mere. McCarg found Smith, who 182 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: at one time had been the president of her local 183 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: women's rural Institute, to be an extremely credible witness, concluding 184 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: that her recollections of the Knight's events were at the 185 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: very least genuine to her, and a few elements of 186 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: the story stood out. In particular, Smith's insistence that the 187 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: torches had been read was puzzling at first, until Andrew 188 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: McKenzie later made a discovery that was believed to have 189 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: not been known by Smith at the time. He discovered 190 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: that torches of that era were often made from the 191 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: resinous roots of Scott's fir, which in their natural state 192 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: do indeed have a distinctive red color. Macag was especially 193 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: intrigued by Smith's description of the movement of the men 194 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: who seemed to be walking in a curve around the field, 195 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: and so it was with some surprise when he discovered 196 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: that back in the seventh century, the field had in 197 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: fact been a small lock that had later been drained 198 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: and turned into farmland. 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It is the birthplace of the Infamous, which 222 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: find a General Matthew Hopkins, whose reign of terror in 223 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the sixteen forties resulted in many local women being murdered 224 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: due to egregious accusations of witchcraft. Nowadays, however, it is 225 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: perhaps better known for its tranquil wetlands and rich arable soil. 226 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: It is a county that echoes with bird song and 227 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the music of Raye Fawn Williams, a place where the 228 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: earth is as dark and rich as the sky is wide, 229 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: a place perhaps best summed up by W. G. Seaboard's 230 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: exquisite travelog The Rings of Saturn. And so it is 231 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: to that place that we now travel. It is Sunday 232 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: morning in October nineteen fifty seven. Up above the skylarks ascend, chirrup, whistle, 233 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: and shake as below them, three young boys, uipped with 234 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: a map and a compass are steadily making their way 235 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: across the countryside. They are taking part in an orienteering 236 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: exercise organized by the Royal Navy Cadets. The boys, who 237 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: are all fifteen and brand new recruits, are William Lange 238 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: from Perthshire in Scotland, Bray Baker from London, and Michael 239 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: Crowley from the County of Worcestershire. Today their task is 240 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: to locate a specific waypoint, record their findings and then 241 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: returned to base camp to report back to their superiors. Finally, 242 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: after a few miles of trekking, the boys were excitedly 243 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: homing in on their mysterious destination. They had been coming 244 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: up a slight rise when they first heard the sound 245 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: of church bells. As they approached the top of the hill, 246 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: they noticed smoke rising from chimneys and the spire of 247 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: a church towering prominently above a small village. As they 248 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: finally made it over the hill, the rest of the 249 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: small community was revealed to them below, and with the 250 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: boys in agreement that this was indeed where they were 251 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: supposed to be, they continued their journey down into the village. 252 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: But as they got nearer, something very peculiar happened. Part 253 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: Way into the village was a small stream that flowed 254 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: over the road. As they approached it, they became aware 255 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: that something wasn't quite right. It was Michael who noticed 256 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: it first, the silence. Only moments ago, the church bells 257 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: had been ringing and the sound of bird's song had 258 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: filled the air, But now, as they entered the village, 259 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: the place was eerily silent, save for the gentle trickling 260 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: of the stream. As they carried on over the ford, 261 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: William noted that even the ducks seemed unmoved by their arrival, 262 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: and as for any sign of people, the place was 263 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: completely deserted. It was then that they noticed the trees. 264 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Only a few minutes earlier, they were surrounded by a 265 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: countryside decorated with the reddish golden browns of autumnal leaves, 266 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: but the leaves on the trees in the village were 267 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: anything but. Here, the leaves appeared to be vibrantly green, 268 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: almost as if it were springtime. As the boys walked on, 269 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: a strange picture was beginning to emerge. All of the 270 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: houses looked as if they were from another age, hand 271 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: built and slightly crooked in design. Some were timber framed, 272 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: and others looked positively medieval. Looking around, they saw no 273 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: sign of street lights or even aerials on the houses. 274 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: There was also no smoke coming from the chimneys as 275 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: they had seen before entering the village, and absolutely no 276 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: sign of the church that had been so visible from 277 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: the hill. What's more, the wind had completely dropped, with 278 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: not even the leaves rustling in the trees, and there 279 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: was no sign of anybody anywhere. The boys made their 280 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: way over to a building with a green door and 281 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: a large front window split into smaller panes that had 282 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: not been washed in some time. They pressed their noses 283 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: to the glass. Just like the rest of the village, 284 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: the shop was deserted, but at the back of the room, 285 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: hanging on meat hooks were the skinned carcasses of three 286 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: large cows. The meat green and moldy, having long ago 287 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: turned putrid. Unnerved by what they had seen, and somewhat 288 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: in a daze, the boys soon found themselves staring through 289 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: the window of another building, but again found no sign 290 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: of life inside, the rooms completely emptied of all furniture. 291 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: Ray and Michael suggested did knocking on some of the doors, 292 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: but William refused to move. Ever since entering the village, 293 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: a strange feeling had fallen over him. It was an 294 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: overwhelming sense of sadness and the unmistakable sensation that they 295 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: were being watched by unseen and unfriendly eyes. The three 296 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: boys hurriedly made their way back up the track to 297 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: the top of the hill. Finally satisfied that they had 298 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: reached a safe distance, the boys turned back and were 299 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: amazed to find the village just as they had seen 300 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: it before. The smoke was again rising from the chimneys, 301 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: and the church spire stood tall and proud. The autumnal 302 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: colors had returned to the trees, and once more the 303 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: sound of the bells and bird song could be heard 304 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: all around a short time later, the boys returned to 305 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: base camp and relayed their experiences to their skeptical superiors. 306 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Despite their baffling description, the petty officers confirmed the boys 307 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: had indeed reached their designated waypoint. What they had supposedly 308 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: seen was the picturesque village of Cursey. It wasn't until 309 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: thirty years later that Michael Crowley and William Lange, who 310 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: by then were both living in Australia, contacted McKenzie and 311 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: relayed their extraordinary story. A few years later, McKenzie revisited 312 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: the village with Lange, and together they retraced just what 313 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: exactly had occurred that day, Much like doctor mc hark 314 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: had been with Miss Smith in Scotland. McKenzie was impressed 315 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: by Lange's sincerity and the detail of his description of 316 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the events. McKenzie ultimately came to the conclusion that what 317 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: the boys had experienced was not the Cursey of nineteen 318 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven, but rather the village as it had been 319 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: in the fourteen twenties in the aftermath of the Great Plague. 320 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: Is it really possible that both the young Cadets and 321 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Smith, and anyone else for that matter, could slip 322 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: unwittingly into another time? Perhaps not in the manner suggested 323 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: by McKenzie, but in two thousand and eleven, one man 324 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: was to make a remarkable claim that we might all, 325 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: in a sense be slipping in and out of time constantly. 326 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: In March of that year, a paper was published in 327 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: the Journal of Personality and Psychology titled Feeling the Future 328 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: Experimental Evidence for Anomalous Retroactive Influences on Cognition and Effect. 329 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: It had been written by a brilliant but controversial social 330 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: psychologist of Cornell University in the States called Professor Daryl Bemm. 331 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: The paper was extraordinary from its opening line to its 332 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: mind boggling conclusion. After all, it isn't often that a 333 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: paper published in an elite journal begins with a definition 334 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: of PSI, which he described as the anomalous processes of 335 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: information or energy transfer that are currently unexplained in terms 336 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: of known physical or biological mechanisms. It is even more 337 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: of a rarity that a paper would then go on 338 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: to prove that such phenomena, an area most associated with telepathy, clairvoyance, 339 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: and psychokinesis, might actually be real. The paper presented the 340 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: results from a number of experiments involving over one thousand volunteers. 341 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: One such test was to have the volunteers study a 342 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: list of words, from which they would later be asked 343 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: to try and recall as many of the words as possible. 344 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Having completed this part of the experiment, the volunteers were 345 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: then given random words from the list that they were 346 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: then asked to type out as a counterintuitive act of reinforcement. Incredibly, 347 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: ben results seemed to suggest a direct correlation between the 348 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: words that the students had been able to recall and 349 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: the words that they were later asked to type out. 350 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: In essence, Bem had turned the notion of cause and 351 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: effect completely on its head. In another test, volunteers were 352 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: shown two curtain graphics on a computer screen, behind one 353 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: of which was a highly stimulant, erotic image. The volunteers 354 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: were then tasked with selecting correctly which curtain hid the 355 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: image completely. Random guesses would return a roughly fifty percent 356 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: success rate, but amazingly, Professor Bem recorded a fifty three 357 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: point one success rate. The difference may sound minimal, but 358 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: in statistical terms, it is dramatically significant. What Bem's paper 359 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: seemed to be saying was that everything we thought we 360 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: knew about the unidirectional nature of time was a fallacy. 361 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: Before long, however, there were suspicious rumblings amongst the scientific community. 362 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Questions were asked about the validity of Bem's methodology and 363 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: the lack of any other findings that might link with 364 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Bem's extraordinary claims, and ultimately, what distinguishes scientific theory from 365 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: fact is the reproducibility of the results. In two thousand 366 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: and twelve, psychologists Stuart Ritchie, Richard Wiseman, and Chris French 367 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: of the Universities of Edinburgh, Hertfordshire and Goldsmith's respectively made 368 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: an unsuccessful attempt to replicate Professor Bem's findings. Their attempts 369 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: were repeated in the same year by Jeff Gallick of 370 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: Carnegie Mellon University, who also failed to replicate Professor Bem's results. 371 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: It remains to be seen whether Bem's findings will gain 372 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: a wider credibility. For what its worth, Bem stands resolutely 373 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: by his fine one perhaps more rational, but in some 374 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: ways no less extraordinary. Explanation for the bizarre accounts of 375 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Smith and the Three Cadets is a phenomenon known 376 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: as derealization. The experience is thought to be brought on 377 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: by a dysfunction in the occipital or temporal lobe of 378 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: the brain. The condition can often leave sufferers with a 379 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: sense of disassociation from the external world, whereby familiar places 380 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: suddenly become alien and surreal. Regardless of whether such a 381 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: condition had afflicted Smith or the young boys, the suggestion 382 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: brings to mind an intriguing concept that I believe strikes 383 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: at the heart of our fascination with the notion of 384 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: traveling back in time. The term horntology was coined by 385 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: French philosopher Jacques Reader in his nineteen ninety three book 386 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: Specters of Mars, The State of the Debt, the Work 387 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: of Mourning, and the New International. The word is a 388 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: portmanteau of the words haunting and ontology, the philosophical study 389 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: of the nature of being. For Derida, the term is 390 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: essentially a play on the temporality of ideas, or more precisely, 391 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: the impossibility of eradicating knowledge or ideas, in this case, 392 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: as they would pertain to Marxist philosophy. Once they have 393 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: been conceived, from the moment they exist, they remain forever 394 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: a part of our collective knowledge, haunting our perception of 395 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: both the past and the future. The implication being that 396 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: only by returning to a time before the idea could 397 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: we hope to imagine an alternate future unshaped by that idea. 398 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: And it is this that I believe most resonates with 399 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: us when fantasizing about the possibility of traveling back in time. 400 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: Not the fantasy that we might exist in a different 401 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: and more agreeable past, but that by returning to that 402 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: past we might realize a different future. What tantalizes is 403 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: the promise that our fate could somehow be changed for 404 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: the better, this currently being an impossibility. To paraphrase the 405 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: composer William Bazinski, we find ourselves perversely left pining for 406 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: futures that can never happen, but continue to haunt us. Nonetheless, 407 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: a concept that you might say achieves physical form in 408 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: the architecture around us, perhaps no more strikingly than in 409 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: places like the Barbican Center in London, a place now 410 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: extant as a literal Ballardian testament to a vision of 411 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: the future that never materialized. Of course, change for the better, 412 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: like all things, is a relative term. For example, it 413 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: is through concepts such as horntology that we might better understand, 414 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: at least the despotic fixation for burning books, or, in 415 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: the recent case of Isissel, their destruction of ancient cultural artifacts. 416 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Such practices formed the practical reality of attempts to expunge 417 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: the past in the hope of creating a different future. 418 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: The concept of horntology was reinvigorated in the naughties by 419 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: a number of cultural theorists eager to apply the term 420 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: to emergent trends in art and pop culture, in particular 421 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: with regards to the growing sense that Western music and 422 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: especially electronic music, had reached an evolutionary could sac. Perhaps 423 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: most prominent among them was the writer and theorist Mark Fisher, 424 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: who saw in the music of artists such as Burial 425 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: or the groups perform under the ghost Box label, an 426 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: attempt to navigate away out of the cul de sac. 427 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Fisher also recognized an unsettled nostalgia for the past that 428 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: in some ways was merely serving to reinvigorate the specters 429 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: of what those musicians saw as their many lost futures. 430 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: But what Fisher found most troubling, as mentioned in a 431 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: piece for the fall two thousand and twelve edition of 432 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Film Quarterly, was the sense that we were losing the 433 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: capacity to conceive of a world radically different from the 434 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: one in which we currently live, that escape from the 435 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: cul de sac was an impossibility. And yet for those 436 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: left despondent at this notion, who pine for an escape 437 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: from an uncertain present, it is worth bearing in mind 438 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: some of the thoughts of Arthur Kessler, as addressed in 439 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: his seminal work The Ghost in the Machine. In a 440 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: concept he refers to as drawback to Leap, Kessler demonstrates 441 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: that not only is the history of evolution littered with 442 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: cul de sacs and dead ends, but that some of 443 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: the greatest revolutions in science, art, and biology were dependent 444 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: on them. That it isn't until periods of cumulative progress 445 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: reached their inevitable stagnation that we are left with no 446 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: alternative but to go back and find a new way out, 447 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: as exemplified, for example, by the way in which Pablo 448 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Picasso's reversal to primitivism enabled him to forge a brand 449 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: new paradigm in Cubism. So for anyone feeling afraid that 450 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: the future they invested so much hope in seems to 451 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: be disappearing before their eyes, worry not that it is 452 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: the end. Not only might it merely be the draw 453 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: back before the leap, but also remember that the past, present, 454 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: and future is now. Perhaps those lost futures aunt specters 455 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: after all, but real attainable spaces just waiting for you 456 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: to arrive. All elements of Unexplained are produced by me 457 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Richard McClain smith. Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes. 458 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Feel free to get in touch with any thoughts or 459 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: ideas regarding the stories you've heard on the show. 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