WEBVTT - MIGUEL NUNEZ - The Miracle Whip Spam-Which

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Kolee Waitt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest actor, writer, producer Miguel Nunez is in the building. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not broke and he ain't broke. It was

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny because you were like, wait, what we go to

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<v Speaker 2>what broke?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna take you back.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta write, Miguel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awkward always pitching someone on taking on the show

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<v Speaker 1>because They're like, what are you trying to say, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, trying to take you

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<v Speaker 1>back to when you were broke.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually got that soon as I said Eating While Broke,

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately thought it was an interview about when you were.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were when you were struggling. Yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know your rise to success story, all starting with

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<v Speaker 1>this original dish. And by the way, you let me

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're gonna have me eating today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you gotta remember when I first came here, I

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<v Speaker 2>lived in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>When you lived in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in the streets. I was homeless because I

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<v Speaker 2>ran away from home, bought a bus ticket, I ran

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<v Speaker 2>away to California. I didn't care. I didn't know. All

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<v Speaker 2>I knew is I was going to be a movie star.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I ever said. So soon as I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>July July August, what is it? June July, August, September, October,

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<v Speaker 2>three months later, I mean three Belogney sandwiches and got

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<v Speaker 2>on a bus and came to California And no no money,

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<v Speaker 2>no relatives, no nothing, from where North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>From North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>And because I had been telling everybody since I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, I'm gonna be a movie start, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go round away to Hollywood as soon as I graduated,

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<v Speaker 2>running away to Hollywood. I said it from the first

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<v Speaker 2>grade through the twelfth and I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say, you read away, So does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>your parents were all the way in on this journey?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was. I ran away. When you run away,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually you know, you don't include them men on that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you leave if you let them know. But I

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<v Speaker 2>know I wrote a note. I literally wrote a note.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait till everybody left the house, rolle a note, got

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<v Speaker 2>on the bus. I looked like I was ten. I

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<v Speaker 2>was forty eleven and weighed seventy five pounds when I graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, probably say, dang, you grew after high school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened to my little My older brother, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like really small and then right when he hit college,

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<v Speaker 1>he like grew.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why black people are taller? Why because their negroes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohious, So you get on the bus with these baloney sandwiches,

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<v Speaker 1>but today, what are you gonna have it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh So anyway, so once I got here and I

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<v Speaker 2>started to coming up and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I men didn't have a lot of money for food

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't really eat a lot so and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just always got my go to and that is

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<v Speaker 2>can you hear me? Junk show? And I'm sorry, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good plug. So y'all can send me

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<v Speaker 2>some spam spam spam, egg and cheese. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>eat that every So I would eat it for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would eat it for dinner and lunch every

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<v Speaker 2>single day because I had a whole thing. So I

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<v Speaker 2>could eat that that that'd be breakfast, and that'd be lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and that'd be dinner. But you gotta kind of fix

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Now, can't just eat spam because spam is

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<v Speaker 2>a little too salty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had this on the show before and I

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<v Speaker 1>try to slither of it once, like just straight out

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<v Speaker 1>the cant and it was extremely salty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very salty. But that's why if I put my

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<v Speaker 2>egg in the cheese, that's gonna you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dilute the salt because you I don't have to put

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<v Speaker 2>any salt in the eggs because that helps with the eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>So it takes a little bit. And then you put

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<v Speaker 2>that miracle whip on our mayonnaise. You put that miracle

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<v Speaker 2>whip on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how you were very like, don't forget the

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<v Speaker 1>miracle whip.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, you can't forget the miracle. I wouldn't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think if I made a sandwich, so funny because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial to have. If I made a sandwich and

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<v Speaker 2>I ran to get the America whip after it was

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<v Speaker 2>already and there wasn't any, I probably wouldn't eat the sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>Really. Wow, Okay, that's how important it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how important it is.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So while you start cooking, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>the just so all our listeners know we have the spam,

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<v Speaker 1>the bread, the egg, the cheese, and the miracle with

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<v Speaker 1>this meal is less than a couple of bucks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you won't know. For bread and and and and

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<v Speaker 2>and and the cannon spam could last you two days,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. And and a carton of eggs. I'm straight

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<v Speaker 2>for the week. Cut some slash, cut two pieces real thin,

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<v Speaker 2>but then cook an.

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<v Speaker 1>Egg two But you started eating this when you started

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<v Speaker 1>booking gigs or oh no, it's a rotation between blowney

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiches and.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no no. I ate that when I was

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, you know, because that was that could last

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<v Speaker 2>the longest. And you go the furthest and and and

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I still eat today.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably still will eat it today.

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<v Speaker 2>I got probably five cans right now. I have never

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<v Speaker 2>been without spam. What absolutely all right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know Hawaii Sam Eggs sandwich maker, I've ever tried.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you gotta be a spam lover. You're ever been

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<v Speaker 2>to Hawaii? No, Hawaii. It's the number one met in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the number one spam Burger's spam, egg and cheese

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast in McDonald's line around the corner. It's the number

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<v Speaker 2>one selling breakfast in every single fast food has it

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<v Speaker 2>only only Hawaii. They have spam burgers, spam breakfast, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>spam burritos, everything, and that's all they eat because.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably love it there, you're like, I did, hello, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because of you know, the world with the war.

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<v Speaker 2>When they were having a tournament camps, that's what they

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<v Speaker 2>gave them. They dropped spam in them, so it became

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<v Speaker 2>like a staple.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I was talking to my girlfriend yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when we'll go out to eat, they'll order bone

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<v Speaker 1>marrow and I look at her and I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe people are paying for bone marrow. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, my mom would like force

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<v Speaker 1>us to eat it, and that was like something you

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<v Speaker 1>ate and you're broke, not when you're wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And now it's like really expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My girlfriend was like, and when we order marrow,

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<v Speaker 1>don't say nothing at the table. I'm like, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It just baffles me that you guys are literally eating

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<v Speaker 1>it like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, okay. So I've never had what this bone marrow tastes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is basically like fat grease in the bone. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe it has a little bit of taste

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I'm Jamaica. You have yeah, my mom, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that in Jamaica that's like the best part of

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<v Speaker 1>the meal. But growing up, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, wait, what does it taste like? It's for the viewers,

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<v Speaker 2>like soap.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like the meat juices, I guess like the meat

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<v Speaker 1>it tastes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if you cook something and then it has

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<v Speaker 2>some like leftover stuff and you break the things, it

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<v Speaker 2>tastes horrible. Let me tell you what about chits.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have you ever had chien?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's like the grossest thing you can eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, it is really I don't know, because I as

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<v Speaker 1>a Jamaican, I eat tripe. You don't tripe, how stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you have cow silming, okay, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>really chewy. It'll be the chewiest mi or that's how

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<v Speaker 1>that's chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiling is the part what the go through. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>the whole house stink.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I hated Chitling's and because the whole house

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<v Speaker 2>stink because you know, it's got this stuff in And

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<v Speaker 2>but then I went to a family reunion in North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina because I was raised in North Carolina. The mom

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<v Speaker 2>she I was born in New York. My mother was

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<v Speaker 2>the writer of it. It's a Man's World, James Brown's

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<v Speaker 2>biggest hit. And I was born in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys grew up with a lot of money?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she wrote that she did.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't. She did, but we didn't. That's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>another story. No, none of that. It's a whole freaking

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<v Speaker 2>other story. She gave us to our grandmother when we

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<v Speaker 2>were three so she can go back to New York

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever. And but she gave us to our grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>So I at three, I went to North Carolina. I

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<v Speaker 2>was raised on a farm. Okay, so I forgot where

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<v Speaker 2>we were going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, oh you got a good story. Will start

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<v Speaker 1>cooking for me please.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you some spam. I don't tell the

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<v Speaker 2>people how to do it, but you gotta bust it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta bust it out now.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you gotta turn it on. How the hell? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to do all that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't cook at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Yeah, but I got the old fire ones the gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I love when people do this, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody knows we have fake insurance at our studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really just put your hand on it on

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<v Speaker 1>the red I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to make sure it's working.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what anybody would turn a stove on

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<v Speaker 1>and put their hand directly on it, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>not have insurance here. So if anything were to happen. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you get it out, Okay. I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole time. So you just put some air

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottles and it comes right out ktch.

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<v Speaker 2>It hat okay, and then you gotta slice it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not good when you make it really really fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, the smell of it. You used to this, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't like this, man, smell like old socks. You

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<v Speaker 2>can eat some.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna eat. You have to cook for both of us, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>for two people today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you're the woman you're supposed to be cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you how, nah man, on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to see y'all cook for me. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, all right? And then okay, so we got

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<v Speaker 1>the thin slices. So take me back to what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on exactly in the moment that you were eating

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<v Speaker 1>this spam sandwich. Is at the earliest, since you still

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<v Speaker 1>like them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, at the earliest, like when I was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say, let's just say, well, yeah, yeah, let's go back,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like your mom situation sounds a little interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>To Okay, let's go back. Do you want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with your mom. Okay, because it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting, it is, Okay, Let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Story my mother, right, My mother was wild. Put to

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<v Speaker 2>you that way. She was wild, and my mom ran

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<v Speaker 2>away from home at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Runs in the family O you go.

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<v Speaker 2>To New York to become in business because she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be it. And my mother the first TV show,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first American bandstand music show, was called Hullabaloo.

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<v Speaker 2>It was way back when we were little, and they

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<v Speaker 2>had all these girls up in these little things in

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<v Speaker 2>the back while the different things. Stevie Smoker, Robinson and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people would come on. It was huge.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bigger American bandstand time. And she was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the girls that was up in those in those

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<v Speaker 2>things with the go go boots because she looked long

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<v Speaker 2>and she looked mixed. She had a long hair, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was one of those. She was the only black

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<v Speaker 2>one up in those little go go boots. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see it actually online. Yeah, and and she was dating

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<v Speaker 2>my mother. This is done, Scott truth. My mother was

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<v Speaker 2>a most dropped there gorgeous girl. She was so wild.

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<v Speaker 2>She ran away from home to go to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And she left and she was there all by herself, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and just living there by itself. She date Muhammed

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<v Speaker 2>Ali would pick her up, drop her off. Jackiet Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>would pick her up later, drop her off. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say this other person. Why I can't because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>just tell it. Well, anyway, I'm not gonna tell you him.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of my other brother my mom had seven

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<v Speaker 2>sons each year she was soon they got three, gave

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<v Speaker 2>him to my mother soon as she got three, gave

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<v Speaker 2>me back to my mother. Three of my brother's fathers

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<v Speaker 2>are very super famous musicians. One of them, every time

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<v Speaker 2>he goes through the airport, they go and they called

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<v Speaker 2>that other call his name his dad's name. Looks like

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<v Speaker 2>he spit him out. And then when you go back

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the show, you see that singer on

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<v Speaker 2>you see my mom in the background. My brother was

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<v Speaker 2>born in next year, then the other the famous group,

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<v Speaker 2>my other brothers, and none of our none of them know,

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<v Speaker 2>none of them, we none of us know. But but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>none of us know what our fathers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>So we were so we were all raised in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how. And when my mom would come home,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like sug Avy. I swear I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that movie that somebody had actually someone that actually sold

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<v Speaker 2>her story because it was like that whole neighborhood James

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<v Speaker 2>Brown when she was dating James Brown when she wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the song That's Why. But he actually came to in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. One, you have no clue this her story?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn that sounds good, all right, continue, So none of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, so none of you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Met your dad's I don't think she knew.

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<v Speaker 1>So was your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was some Dominican guy she met in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened with my dad? My dad? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the story was my dad was I bought her or

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<v Speaker 2>some dress to go out to some party and she

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to meet him, and and then he got

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<v Speaker 2>everything ready and by the time how did I turn

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<v Speaker 2>this up?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got it up pretty high.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good. So then he goes to her club and

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<v Speaker 2>he's looking for and looking for her, and he finds

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<v Speaker 2>on the club with that dress on, sitting in another

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<v Speaker 2>guy's lap. He started chasing her and he sliced her,

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<v Speaker 2>sliced her butt. She's completely old, no what. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>when she took me to North Carolina. I never met him.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know who he is, never met him. But

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<v Speaker 2>my mom said one time she saw when I was

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<v Speaker 2>on a Little did he know? And when I was

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<v Speaker 2>first TV show, I was on tour of duty. I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna make like making twenty twenty seven thousand, five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a week, and I was dying to find

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<v Speaker 2>him and help him out. And she said she saw

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<v Speaker 2>him when they and told him, your son want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him. He said, okay, we'll come back. He

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<v Speaker 2>working tomorrow. When she went back there next day, he

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<v Speaker 2>had quit because he thought she wanted money. Oh so

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew my father. Oh wow, I always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know, you know, you see. Yeah, see people their

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<v Speaker 2>dad didn't want know what it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, but you don't even know his name or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Miguel Anna I'm a junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was from Dominican Republic. He was worked at a

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<v Speaker 2>zipper factory. I got that stuff. But even when I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to look him up in New York and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked up Miguel Nunya that set seven hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>two million. And then they said, well, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>go to those places where they used to live, they

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<v Speaker 2>never leave because my mom was in the same place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so she took me to where she said it was

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<v Speaker 2>his mom or his grandmother some house, and they would

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<v Speaker 2>they were look, they would't open the door. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know. I gave up, but anyway, so that's how

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you end up being raised by your grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your mom at least sending money back to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well she was doing that for Yes, she was sending

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<v Speaker 2>money to take care of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, definitely, you guys still had a good relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, my mom. Uh. First of all, like

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<v Speaker 2>a player.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, the the the the m v P

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<v Speaker 3>of players, absolute play, I give you the sugar, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>It really was that. The whole neighborhood would be there,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody looking down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pull a picture of your mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's one online. We heard in her first coat

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<v Speaker 2>and and uh we call it Betty Jean because we

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<v Speaker 2>and allowed to call her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>At least twenty times in my life. Don't ever call

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<v Speaker 2>me mother. I have never had an ugly style. I

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<v Speaker 2>like you before in my life? Ugly what child? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you before? In my life?

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<v Speaker 1>What she would say that life you got? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>got it?

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<v Speaker 2>But now she lives with me? No way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a crazy question. I really shouldn't ask it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm curious because because now that I'm older and

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<v Speaker 1>I meet guys that have like some kind of mommy

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic that's a little off. Did you have any type

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<v Speaker 1>of this is terrible?

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<v Speaker 2>But I ain't no terrible And if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>start being I'm gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you have Do you have mommy issues?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>In your relationships?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so because when I'm with a girl, I

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<v Speaker 2>like to be with them. I'm very affectionate. I just

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<v Speaker 2>do all the things that I didn't get, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay as a woman ever said that to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I just, I just, I know it is women love affections.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure they were like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because my mind. Because here's when my mom come on.

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<v Speaker 2>She would give us money, and all everybody else would

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<v Speaker 2>run out of the house and go spend it. Cause

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<v Speaker 2>back then she would hundred hundred I know that. Back

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<v Speaker 2>then that's like a thousand. Yeah, except me. I take

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<v Speaker 2>my mother put in the pocket. I would go in

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<v Speaker 2>because we couldn't be around there more than two minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, And and I used to go in everyone

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<v Speaker 2>do and look, everyone, you want another room? I would

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<v Speaker 2>go and look and stay there. When she would leave,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go into her room and I would take

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<v Speaker 2>her and take her clothes and spread them all home,

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<v Speaker 2>right them across my pillow because she always wore the

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<v Speaker 2>most expensive perfume. So they would do all I never

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<v Speaker 2>left they did. They would all run.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you the baby, middle child?

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, oldest, second oldest?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I like how you're smashing the breath. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you you definitely adored your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, well, I mean yeah, I adored the thought

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<v Speaker 2>of her. I adored the thought of her. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know her.

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<v Speaker 1>What did your grandma say about your mom? Did she

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<v Speaker 1>talk negative or never.

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<v Speaker 2>Never, she never said anything about her. We never heard

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<v Speaker 2>anything about her. And then she would come home. I say,

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<v Speaker 2>in my entire life growing up, I saw her probably

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<v Speaker 2>and she was home probably twenty times for two or

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<v Speaker 2>three days. I probably saw her twenty minutes. Wow, that

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<v Speaker 2>was all we were allowed. And never knew when she left.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, she didn't even say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, where's the Jeanet boy, get your skinny

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<v Speaker 2>ice out here? She left two days ago? Never ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, so take me back to uh damn. So

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<v Speaker 1>was she rich? I'm just curious she was? And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And but you you didn't really necessarily see the fruits

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<v Speaker 1>of that labor. You just saw it when she came.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing we saw when she came home, when

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<v Speaker 2>she had about twenty million dollars worth of jury on

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and gave stacks on hundreds to my

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents in them and then like my little brother, my brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and now who's here my other brother, right, Frankie, when

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<v Speaker 2>they first came home, when she first brought them home,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish I had that photo when she first

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<v Speaker 2>brought them home to leave, when they got three, she

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<v Speaker 2>had on a Frankie. He was probably three. He had

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<v Speaker 2>on a little white mink coat original meat, probably about

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three thousand dollars, little mink white boots

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<v Speaker 2>and a mink white hat. And he had on a

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<v Speaker 2>black one, oh wow. And she had on a black

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<v Speaker 2>and white one. And she always came home with She

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<v Speaker 2>loves to have stacks of money on her that's her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite thing on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom was definitely a player. Okay, okay, she's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred player hot lady, Okay, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She know she was. She's older now, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking care of her because you know she's a

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<v Speaker 2>little she's eighty four years old, but she's still like

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<v Speaker 2>she's sixteen. She wants to go out every.

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<v Speaker 1>Club, no way, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. There's no difference than her now and

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<v Speaker 2>when she was sixteen now.

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<v Speaker 1>So like she'll get up at like nine o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm going out.

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<v Speaker 2>And no she can't, but I have a driver take her.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish it. But if you said, if I say, if

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<v Speaker 2>like right now, she was like, where y'all go? And

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 2>we told her where we're going? Why y'all could have

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<v Speaker 2>told men, she'll jump up and get ready and be

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go, no matter where you're going, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, always in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so I'm gonna skip to the part where

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<v Speaker 1>you decide to run away.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, well, before that, you said, from the age of sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I was born, I said I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>move move to Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And where do you think that that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know because I this is before I even

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<v Speaker 2>knew my mam was even involved. This is before I'd

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<v Speaker 2>ever even watched television. It was the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>ever said I was going to do it. And to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, watch out that that's melting?

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<v Speaker 2>What on that sh shit? You're hilarious, idiot? Oh thank

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<v Speaker 2>god you're here. And to this day I still say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I I tell people, I don't know where it

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<v Speaker 2>came from. Every side way, your mama's doing it. No,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.399
<v Speaker 2>But that was before I was saying I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be a movie star. And now that I think about it,

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that was even before I even knew what a movie

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<v Speaker 2>star was. I didn't even think I had watched television yet. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take me back to when you start plotting

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<v Speaker 1>on running Away, because it was it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was just it was never every day. I

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<v Speaker 2>had already had my job. I was working. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what I was gonna do Friday, Da da dah. I

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<v Speaker 2>was planning the whole thing. And I'd got a job

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<v Speaker 2>and I got my first check. It was God, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I know. And literally I was like out of

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<v Speaker 2>the clipbl the s guys to shoot. This is enough

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<v Speaker 2>to get to Hollywood, packed a little suitcase and made

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<v Speaker 2>me three blown the sandwiches. Which one is this one?

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<v Speaker 1>The one that you're touching another one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And it down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I literally you be leaving all this stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the You're hilarious. How do you cook at home? You

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>put he puts like tissues, uh, spatulas on the stove

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<v Speaker 1>like everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not no, no, but see if it was fire, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't because I see it. But now this looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So so you so you run away from home.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's the letter in a note saying?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I said, where's that note? I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>know somebody had a long time ago. I don't even

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.440
<v Speaker 2>know they had found it, But I don't know. I

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 2>should have went home and got it I kept one

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>that I got when I was living at the Union

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Rescue Mission. When I had been at the Union Rescue

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Mission for a long time and I finally decided to

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.399
<v Speaker 2>write home. And I was so excited to get this.

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You got a letter, And I was like, and I

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>got opened up and all I opened up. All I

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 2>said was call home food, Call home food. I swear

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.159
<v Speaker 2>to God. And I found that letter. I got it.

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.359
<v Speaker 2>That was from aunt, But that was.

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>From your aunt. Shout out to the aunt.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, I just literally thought of at that minute

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and did it and went home and I went to

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.439
<v Speaker 2>the bus station. Matter of fact, the last person I

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>saw was him sneaking to school late when I left

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:09.640
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what you were up?

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Nobody did. Nobody did, Okay, nobody did. Okay, what am

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I gonna do? Okay, girl, you about to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you have to make four slices of bread?

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Nope, I'm gonna just eat a half a sandwich. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna eat half?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Okay?

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh I should have made two squad them. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, oh, you know, at one point, what are

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you gonna cook? Eggs? I love judging you you're a

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>great storyteller.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's easy when it's coming from here.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you run, so you're you run away

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>below the sandwich.

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I walked down the street walk that and this is

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<v Speaker 2>I know is God because it's like fifteen people in

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<v Speaker 2>the house because all my brothers are there, seven brothers

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 2>plus my five aunts, and so there's never a time

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<v Speaker 2>where there's nobody in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was my grandmother that raised you. It was

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<v Speaker 1>your arms, Tair, it.

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Was my grandmother. They had five daughters, so they took

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>us in and they was all of a sudden in

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the same house. So there was never time there was

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 2>nobody there. So when I walk home and get home,

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody there.

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's how you know it was God.

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you walked in like, oh shoot, I said, I said,

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I said, I said my mother. I said, I'm running.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to Hollywood and make something of myself. That's

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.880
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I said. And and I just went down

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 2>to walked down the train track, and I would look

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>think about all the memories. And I got in the

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>bus and I was hiding because the bus station in

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 2>the middle of town, and my grandparents have to pass

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 2>there to come home from work. So I was just

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 2>in the back holding down. As soon as the bus

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<v Speaker 2>start taking off, I never once realized the seriousness of

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 2>what I had, did not even eyeoda I saw geting

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>on that bus and where I am now. There was

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind what soever I was gonna

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 2>be where I'm man. None, none, that's what I saw.

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I figured. I didn't know what the hell was gonna

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>happen in the middle, but whatever that was, it's gonna

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>work out, because I know that's gonna happen.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, it's certain.

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Certain, one hundred percent. Now that's the difference between that's

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>what you gotta have. You don't one hundred percent truly

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>absolutely believe in yourself and what you do, you're gonna

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 2>end up turning back if you nobody could go through

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 2>what I went through. And I'm gonna share tell you,

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody could go through it. Sleeping behind the bus station,

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>waking up with lice every day and having to get

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sprayed with poison and and that's the kind of stuff

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>that make people turn around and go back home. Yeah,

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 2>they can't take it because somebody told them they were cute,

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>somebody told them that they can. They were a good actor,

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't really have the desire the desire with

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody else. I used to sit on the porch my uncle,

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 2>who was a Cadillac dealer. He would come home for

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 2>family union, and once he had a Cadillact that had

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>hollyo A California license plates, and I was about eleven

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>years old. I sat outside on the street touching it

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>all day long, going, this car is in California. That's

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 2>where I'm gonna leave. You really left where I knew it.

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I knew it, and and that's why you got it.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't pinpoint what was the initial trigger or how

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>you found out about it. I found out about what

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>like Hollywood and all that.

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it came from my mom, but

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>we had that regular encyclopedia thing and that people have

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>bring and every time I would come home, I would

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>run home and grab a Psyclepe and look up Hollywood

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 2>and just read everything I could on Hollywood, and I

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 2>would send letters.

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I love that there's an encyclopedia involved in this story.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>The old one, and that's what I did. And I

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 2>mean I just knew, I just knew I was I

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't know why I was gonna do it, and I

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>never realized the seriousness of what I'd done until I

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>actually got here, because I ended up. I went to

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the bus station and I said, can I get a

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>ticket to a thought like this? When I first got here,

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>my nickname was country boy, so I talked this like

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>this A nice my name again, New Years. I from

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>West North Carolina. I want to be a actor. I

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>was gonna get a ticket of Hollywood. He said no,

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And I thought you had to be an actor to

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 2>get in Hollywood, which I found out later as I

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>was at the trailway station. Trailway goes downtown, Oh, skid Row,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh Greyhound, I went to Hollywood. I didn't know that.

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I just thought you had to be an actor. So

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he said you can go to Los Angeles, and I

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>said okay. When I got me a ticket and hid

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>in the back and I just got here. I had

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>about twenty eight dollars and two dollars when I land,

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and I thought I was gonna get here six and

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>main the worst place ever, right across from a bus station.

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.479
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be the movie Star

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>lights and I was to meet somebody, and that was

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be it. And it wasn't until I got

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>here on the worst possible street. You come, man, skid row. Yeah,

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 2>and then I look outside. That was the first time

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I won. I realized seriousness of what I had done.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, this is

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood I mentioned. So then what was your initial thought?

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Were you like, oh shit, because you said that's when

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you realize the gratitude of what you did.

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>What I did. What I did was no, no, I did.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I tried to sleep in the bus station. He kicked

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>me out, So you can't stay in the bus station.

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.479
<v Speaker 2>So he me out of the bus station. And then

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I said I would walk around in the street and

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>walk around in the streets and walk around the street.

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And I had one of those box raizors that we

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>keeping in a climb. So I had two dollars left.

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And there was an all night movie theater. That's a

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>place for one dollar.

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh smart, oh good.

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was go in the movie theater. Yeah right,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>So I go in the movie. There I'm sitting in

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>my seats and I had to put my feet up

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like this because.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>There's rats running around and in the movie theater and

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like this.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Every five minutes. I wait five and I got my

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>razor right here like this. And this was just God

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>protecting me, giving me a warning early. And I'm sitting

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>in the movie theater and all the way down there's

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like a few people in there. There's a guy. He

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>could see a head, and every time I wake up,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the head was closer, closer, closer. And the last time

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I walk up some big, nasty, homeless person, when I

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>popped my raisor out like that, he jumped up and ran.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>That was guy's way of telling me to watch out.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>So from that point on, I would walk around at

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 2>night and sleep in the day.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh smart.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So then one time I was sleeping on a park

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>bench and it was raining and some guy was like, like,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 2>I said, I looked like I was ten. He was like, hey,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing out here? And I said I

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was telling. The guy was like, you know, my name

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>micguil noony other from what six Ford, the Cemetery Street,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>what's north Clown? I came here to be an actor.

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I love your accent.

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, oh oh god, he said, while

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>you on the street And I told him I had

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>no way to stay, and he said why don't you

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>go to the mission? I was like, what is that?

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So he told me out to the Union Rescue Mission.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I ain't up moving to the Union Rescue Mission. I

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>lived there for a while, got on welfare, got a job,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>quit the job, started sneaking in the studios, getting kicked.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Out, trying to sneaking into acting to the what studios.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I would tell my friends, I want to go into

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Universal Studio and I want to take the I want

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 2>to go to Universe Studio and I want to walk

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>around on the sense and I want to see how

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it's done and I can learn. They was like, man,

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>they ain't gonna let you do that. I'm like, ain't

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna let me go? Nothing to do with that. So

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>then I went there when Day I said name, my

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>name is mcgil now short Universal. My name is Miguel

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Noon is from Wistle nor Kline. I just want to

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>walk around. I'm not gonna bother nobody's get your skinny

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>ass out of here. You can't do that. And I'm like,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>he not gonna let you. You can't. Those things don't

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>compute to me. So I sit around the watch. So

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>next thing I know, I noticed what's going So I said, okay,

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I get how I'm gonna do this. So I saved

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>my money. I started selling my blood plasma, so so

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I saved all my money. And then I take the

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Universal's studio tour.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And then after a while they said, well, we're gonna

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>get off here. I went, it's okay. I hope they

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>can't see this anyway. He goes, all right, guys, we're

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna go inside this thing here and we're gonna show

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>you how it's a simulation of how we do TV shows.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I want to go to the real thing.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So I thought. He said, all right, everybody, come this way,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>come this way, come this way, Come this way to

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the Traim's gonna pick us up on the other side.

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Come this way, come this way. While everybody was coming

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this way, coming this way, I went that way, that way,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>that way, and I went around and did exactly what

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I do everything they said. I couldn't do everything, he

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>said they won't let me do. And then at the

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I came in and got on

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the last train, and I would go to all those

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>TV shows and movies and sit at the top of

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the thing. They were doing big movies and just sit

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>there all day and look. And that's how I learned.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>That's how you never never take no for an answer,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>never ever.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I always say, like, especially, never take no from someone

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have the ability to say yes. I like that, yeah,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people will get rejected. I washed

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>all the dishes around here. Look at this sandwich. It

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>looks legit. You know what, guys, I noticed about when

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Miguel made his sandwich, which was interesting, is he would

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<v Speaker 1>let the butter marinate the bread, and he would like

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>soak it in there, so you know the sandwich is

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna taste amazing, just by the way he did the bread.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Just by the way he did the bread he smashed

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>with the butter. I'm so confident that. Look, Jared, you

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>want to come in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>You need a little like you need to rewrite your story,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a movie.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I just.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>You are, Yeah, because it sounds like it would be

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a bread y'all have no clue. It sounds like an

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely incredible.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Movie faith determination, never giving up.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you have to isn't an amazing story?

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Cage, are you right? Say? I was gonna say, where's

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>this tea? I love sweet teeth. You love.

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I just got a kettle by the way, do you

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>have one. It's like a kettle that it's like electric thing.

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You put the water in, it keeps it up all day.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>So your tea, your hot water.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a guest today.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>You literally have it at my house.

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I wish I hadn't bring gifts for your guests.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna this is. This is very budget consciously.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>You got to be professional.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is about to try the sad Are

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>we going this is? Yeah?

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Tell him about my Jared. Are we going? Okay?

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>So he soaked it in the butter. It looks like

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna taste good. I love that you smashed. It

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like you are a condoiseur. So we

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>are gonna see if Miguel can make me switch to spam,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>egg and cheese sandwiches with miracle whip.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>They're still salty.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It's salty, but it's it's good.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Right.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised though, not to set off track, but you

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>see how you wipe my mouth. You're so very nice.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>They're minerable. I don't know what the word is, but.

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Because of my aunt's I think and you say. I

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>say that because I think they trained us. I think

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>they trained us because I swear to God that the

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>movie would be it was the real Cinderella. Our aunts

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>were older and they lost a lot of things. When

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of them lost their room because we all had the

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>same room, we had to take their room. They didn't

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>want to vacations because they had to spend the extra money.

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>And they were and we were. It was literally Cinderella.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>They and made us do everything. We got beatings because

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of them. They hated us being there in the beginning.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>We've changed, but we had to have all bought us,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>had a night. I had watched dishes every Tuesday, my

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>brother Wednesday.

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I thought you were going to say that

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>they were like extra affectionate with you guys.

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Hell no, I a'm affectionate. I don't think I've seen

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>in my entire life never ever heard, ever heard the

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 2>way I love you in our house. It wasn't it

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that kind of a house.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>But then yet you end up growing up to be

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>extra affectionate.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because you miss it.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I noticed with my daughter too. I'm like that,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I love you, I love you.

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Let me, hug you right.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't ever want you to feel that feeling.

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I could trun do somebody. She was daddy, I can't believe.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe.

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take me back to okay. You you're on

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the sets, you're learning, and what happens next?

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I made it.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It don't sound like it was that fast.

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Wait, to be honest with you, I'm lucky because I did.

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Still struggling, and I'm on the bus. I see this

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>guy going and I'm like, what are you doing? He said,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm an actor. I'm going ready to go to this

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>cattle call. I said, my name Migail Nuoniam six forty

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>seventire Street, whist North Carolina. I came here to be

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>an actor. And he was like that. He was telling

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>me what he was going for, and he was like,

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, what is that? He's here? This is a resume.

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to get one in here. Can I

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>keep you can keep it? You got to get a resume.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>You got to get pictured dah damn. He get ready

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>to get off again. Sorry, and then he gets off

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the bus. He goes in the park and I look

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>up that see cameras. So the next stop I get off,

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll go to a Copey place. I'll waite his name out,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>put my name in over and make another copy and

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 2>go back. Get in a line.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. As you're street smart, I didn't

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>know cattle call that you had to. I didn't know

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>what a cattle call. You didn't need any of that,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't.

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cattle call. What cattle call audition is different. Cattle

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>calls means they just want to face. They don't give

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 2>a damn who you are. A major movie. They looking

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>for cattle call. They want a new start. So I

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>get in line and I got the lead in it.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 2>It was a National Genos restaurant commercial and I took that.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>He was like I did, and the guy you have

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>an agent. I was like, now, I'm no conjact. He said,

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>how did you get in? I said, hey, that guy

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>right there. And the guy came up. He said, I

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 2>said he told me about on the bus. He said,

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>what you got it? And I was like that and

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>then he said he said, I'll take him to my agent.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So he takes me to his agent and I get

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 2>there and I say my name again, Newia and six

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>sort Semis Street wasna I come in to be an

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>eight and he was like, hey, okay, okay, I like you.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I like you. You know what I'm assigning you. I said,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to go more of those cattle call things.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>See me an audition. I said, yeah, you can have

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>this money. I want to be in the movies and

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the TV.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You said you can have the what this money?

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>It was a commercial. I'm thinking of the movies and TV.

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. He said, no, this is on TV.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, of course, And he goes.

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you tell him you can have the money from it?

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he said, me on more of those things

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>for movies and be on TV, okay, you know. So

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 2>then he said, ah, it is on TV to so anyway,

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 2>he said, yeah, I like you. So he signed me up.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And then I think the next thirty jobs, I probably

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>got twenty eight of them, thirty eight of them, next forty,

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I probably got thirty eight of them.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And then three years later I was on a national

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>on CBS. I hit the show called Tour of Duty

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>on CBS. Wow. And now I work. I just started working.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to say.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I never stopped working all throughout the eighties and nineties.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I got ninety percent of every job that was.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Out for acting. So you ended up never having to

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>get a real job again.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I never had a real job again.

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>WHOA wow. You talk about determination, perseverance, absolutely and focus.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you think a lot of the people that helped

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you along the way, like the agent wanted to sign you,

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they saw that like that, like in a censor.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>I think no agents and managers. My first manager was

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Sheryl Levane. She's who try to stay with front Hell

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>if she really did care, I've never had agent that

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>carried as much as she did. Most agents and managers

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 2>they won't give a damn.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just want to check.

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 2>They just want to check now. They like if you

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>if you got that, that it because they know they

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 2>can get money. But that's the I don't know if

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>they truly believe in you, destiny, they truly know, they don't.

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 2>They just hoping that you can get as many jobs

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>being that guy right there, as cute as you can

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>till I can get somebody else and replace you.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what happened to your first manager?

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, you know just like when you start coming up.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 2>First thing you think, and this is to all your

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>young guys out there, you know, I gotta go with

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the bigger management. I gotta go with the bigger you

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>show you can go and grow and grow. And all

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the big ones started coming after me and I did.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>But that's not what you should do.

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>And I wish I had none, really, yeah, because I

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>hear that a lot, like, but it's the standard thing.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you need to go with them now because you're

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>at a different level. Yeah, and it's like it's been

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 2>going that way forever. No one ever ever win. Anybody

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>say hold on, stay, No, you shouldn't do it, you

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>should stand it. No one never told that that's that's

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>what you're supposed to do. Yeah, it's a it's a step,

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a level. I was told by everything. It's a level.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And then you gotta go with these and then you

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>gotta go see a gotta all of this stuff. I

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>was knocking them out. I don't care. I would have

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 2>got the same job with her as I would have

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>did with the other one, but I didn't know at

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that time.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So but you don't have any way to contact her

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>now she's gone.

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you cool with her now, I'm cool with her now.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Ill was always cool with him. Wow, she's not a

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>manager anymore.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay. So since making it, were there any

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>hurdles after that you saw that you could you you know,

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like anything that kind of made it hard? That part

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of the journey.

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 2>What your part?

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>The part on the rise to the top, the rise.

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 2>To success, the hardest part of my rise, Suss. There's

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>always been mo what black production, And to be honest

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 2>with you say that again black production. I had one production.

0:38:55.560 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I've had one one casting Rictor once didn't bring in

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>for a project, and then when I went in for

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>another project got it. She was a catching breaktor. I

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 2>asked her why, she said, oh, stop, you get all

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the jobs, let somebody else get some. She didn't bring

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>me in because she thought I would get it and

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody else wouldn't get it. But that's not your job. Yeah,

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 2>because I was getting all the jobs, they wanted somebody

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>else to get one. But that's not your determination. I

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>was not brought in for Joana Man. I was told

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't right. I was not brought in for sparks.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Sparks and sparks. I told I was told I wasn't

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>right when I took over that show. Every single thing

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I've got in my career I literally had to fight for.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Nothing has come easy, even like now. All the work

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>that I've done and.

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm still getting it's done a lot of work.

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, carry the movie for the WB carried

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>out to two year movies. And I'm just getting a

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 2>call to audition for two lines on a Tyler Perry movie,

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 2>three lines on this and two lines on a BT

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>show TV show. When I'm on the TV show, when

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the number one show on BT, Yeah, they

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>want me. They want me to come in audition for

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>this show. What show? This show? Yeah, it wars it on,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>It's on BT B T don't know. It's like it

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. It's absolutely am But I get office every

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>day for major network, big shows. They call me in

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 2>say availability and ba ba bone. But somehow, all the

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>black shows and all of those things, they're asking me

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to read for two or three little lines. I'm better

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>than everybody. You cast foods in the whole movie and

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>the whole TV show. You asking me to read two

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 2>and three lines. I played a woman. I played a ghost.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I played everything, and you're gonna do that, It's not possible.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna think about.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You heard the whole What do you think about all that?

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue. Like I said, I didn't need

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>no new minati. Yeah, if there is one, I didn't

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>need any of that. I didn't need any games. No

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 2>one ever tried to play for any of that Indian.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I came in.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I just started working. Yeah, I didn't have to cut

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>no corners.

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to.

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you this, first time I ever

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 2>met Cat Williams, I said to my friend. My friend

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>standfar said predous. He came out after last of that

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 2>guy right there. It's awesome. When I first met him,

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 2>he had all he had like some girls with him.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He was like, yeah, give him this and that and

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that's this, this this. He had like five six seven

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>different business ventures. He had a whole different mindset. You

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>can tell that no one was gonna put nothing over

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>on him. You can already tell that he's not going

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to compromise. I could already tell that he's not going

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to give into anything. He was like me when you

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>got confidence. And you know, he didn't come up just

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be a just comedan. He was already and

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't even made it yet. He would five of

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 2>the different things. I was like, what is this? Yeah,

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 2>that's my this is this and she runs this department

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 2>and she did. I was like, dude, that guy right there,

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.479
<v Speaker 2>he's awesome. That's the only thing I know about him. Wow,

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And he's a super hell of a comedian. Yeah.

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I've seen I have some favorite comics,

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but I think by Far but there was I think

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I had. I had a talk with my little brother

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>once and I was like, I would love to see

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a battle between I think it was Cat Williams. I

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>can't remember who the other comic was, but I just

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>think Cat Williams by far is one of the ultimate

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>golds in comedy.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I think he's funny as hell. He's here's the thing,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.439
<v Speaker 2>it's not just I like that he don't just tell jokes. Yeah,

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he's like he kinda tell stories. When he throw that

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 2>thing he put his stuff in, he gives you a

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>whole visualization of what it is, which adds to being

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>funny and the way he falled on the floor. He

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 2>does these stupid people. I mean, it's a combination of

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 2>it all. He don't just stand there and tell jokes

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 2>and hope that the joe work and you laugh because

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.240
<v Speaker 2>you think the joke's funny. He can make the joke funny,

0:42:58.280 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>even if not just by he added his extra stuff

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to it with his crazy look. He's brilliant.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's brilliant. I think after watching his interview

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it was also beautiful to see the level of integrity

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>he had.

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I knew this, but people didn't know. They

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't think he was as intelligent as he is, and

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>he is. I think it was a good thing for him.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know about anything about all this

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>other stuff. Lomonnade Bluminadi. I don't know anything about all

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. I just think if you just work hard,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do that. I think it's people

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 2>that resort to those kinds of things when they're not

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 2>sure about this self. When you got one confidence yourself

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>and they know me, probably why I didn't go through

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>any of that Hollywood bullshit because they know me. I'm loud,

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Hell are you talking about?

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>So? When the Black production sends you those auditions. Now,

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>this far in your career, do you even respond or

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>do you know?

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, it's embarrassed.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>She also heard about like Taraji p Henson came out

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>with her whole thing about pay equity.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the pay equity and this thing is the worst ever.

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And again like for instance, I'm on Family Business, I

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>make less on Family Business in the fifth season. Then

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I made the first season on Tour of Duty in

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty seven. Wow. Wow.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing really you could do about the screen actors.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Girl. We've talked to screen actors. Girl. I don't know

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>why the screen actors get and I don't care. I

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 2>just think it's the worst ever. They owed us money

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>for over five years. I got an email from says, oh,

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 2>we're into it in twenty twenty. I got the same

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>one in twenty twenty three. Oh yeah, we're into it.

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 2>And it's just I don't know how even the residuals

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 2>when you see one hour drum, I make more in

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 2>residuals from stuff I did in the eighties that's on now.

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>And when the one hour episode of Family Business comeing

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>on you at you get thirty dollars. Wow. That's because

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 2>SAG allowed them to. Because when we first came on,

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>we got a twenty seven hundred dollars three thousand seven

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>dollars which was supposed to be every show. I don't

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 2>know what. SAG let them check whatever box they need.

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>They checked and changed it to thirty dollars. So how

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 2>could they be paying us that one at thirty three

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven and now it's thirty dollars for one

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 2>hour show and it's been shown and shown and shown,

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and they're just raping us. How raping us?

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 1>How does the whole SAG in actor dynamic work because

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you keep referencing.

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>What SAG supposed to protect us as our union. So

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>but now if SAG says to you, okay, you got

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>to pay them twenty seven hundred, three thousand dollars per rerun, okay,

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know what, if you can check this box

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and you can say that you're this kind of prediction,

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 2>then you only have to pay them thirty dollars and

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 2>then they do that. Now, the SHAG should not allow

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>them to do what they're doing. We're supposed to get

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>three thousand something dollars for every time you're locked down

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>during the COVID lockdown about ten times. Never got a

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>what and there's so many though, Well that's because I

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 2>mean the strike was like this, that little thing that

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>they were allowed to do with that little box, wasn't there.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 2>That little box is put to give it to an

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>example like say Netflix and all these other studios and

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>streaming services. And they're back way back when when if

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it did the deal, they said, we can't afford to

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>pay him three thousand something dollars because we don't get

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the same advertising dollars that the networks get. We don't

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>get the same viewership. Okay, well we'll let you be

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.399
<v Speaker 2>able to do this little box. Yeah that was then.

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Now they're getting more viewers than them, they're getting bigger

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 2>advertising dollars, and they're still they still able to get

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 2>along with the little box. And SAgs supposed to be

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 2>doing this. We were either re end this because of

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 2>SAG and then we SAG. We have to go in

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>strike because of this. I mean, we're all so much

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>money and and and nobody from SAG. You can't call

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 2>them every time I've called all the time, other actors

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>called it does no good. They they don't want to

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>go against them because you know you're gonna come and go.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be giving that some money for other actors

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. So I get a feeling. I

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but that's my own interpretation of why they

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 2>won't do anything.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're not in it for the money. You're

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in it.

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I've never been in it for the money. I've always

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 2>said I want to be a movie star. I want

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to I want to make a career. Because I've bet

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 2>friends who've been movie starts to follow up and come

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>back down all the way of going up my career.

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>They're like this, hey, and then this, this, this, and

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>now I'm down like this, here's a couple of dollars.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Do that. Here's a couple of dollars. Do that. And

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 2>then another year passed. I see this other actor. Oh

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>he's this, he's that. He come up and he's he's

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a start, and now I see him. Now I'm down

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>here loaning his money. So I just wanted a steady career,

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 2>a steady career. I've made over to two hundred thousand

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 2>dollars every year since i've been here, So well, i'll

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>tell you this.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So it was funny, So I of course was I

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>hunted you down. I saw you at it.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I saw you. I was looking over the

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 2>balcon I saw you down at there.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to get you. And so I was

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>on a call with the Black Effect, the Bookers and everybody.

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how Miguel Nunez? And I remember the

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>booker saying, oh my gosh, that's so exciting because a

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of times you see these actors, they're like every day,

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 1>you see them on everything, right, but you don't really

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>know their story. You don't know that side of them.

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of fun to be able to

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>be like, everyone's like, just curious about you.

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm curious about you.

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, what you know, my sandwich is delicious,

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna have to eat it after I interview

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>with you.

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Oh yeah, I should have probably did that.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>So how have you not panicked in or even looked

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 1>at some of the peers that went to the top

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and said should I? Could I be up there? Do

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you ever look at their race?

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Nope? Never. I stay at my lane. And I've been

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>doing all for all of these years. I've been on

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 2>my first TV show in nineteen eighty seven. It's twenty

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty four on a TV show. Now, it's only been

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 2>two or three years when I wasn't on one at

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 2>the end, two and three years straight. No, I'm saying

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it's only it's probably been about out of the last

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty maybe three or four years that I haven't been

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>on a TV series since nineteen eighty seven. Okay, So

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm right where I wanted. My career is fine because

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I always I was scared. I really hundred million percent

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 2>believe knowing how wild I was. If I had been,

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 2>if Sky had not kept me on this, because God

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>protects what God directs. My grandparent was a peak cake.

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 2>My grandparents will preaching, so and oh you're a preacher's kid.

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay.

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>And I and if I had a gone and I

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>had been this, if somebody gave me twenty five million

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars for a movie in the nineties, I don't think

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll be here right now. Oh really, I would have

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>been too. While God knows exactly what and level. I'm

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 2>so satisfied. And like I said, I've seen them go

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and they dropped some inny drops. So it wasn't about

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.959
<v Speaker 2>shooting that. Mine was about having a career, build a career.

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be able to do this.

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You when you see the other people rise and drop,

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>do you see like is there a level of pain

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that you see? Also, that's like where it's like, man,

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you get that high and then you hit that low.

0:49:54.640 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 2>No. No, I can always look at the drop and

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the drop and which person is and you know where

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>and where and why and how because a lot of

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 2>people it's all hype. You can't survive on hype. You

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 2>can shoot up with hype, but you can't stay there,

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, because like I give you an example, like

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 2>right now, asking me to read for this road in

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the movie, I'm like, okay, well who's starting it? And

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>then I'm looking at and there's some guy who from

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 2>the internet who you know, I.

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Know, the whole following thing now right.

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>You're fucking kidding me? Are you really kidding me? And

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's that it's it's so I don't really look at

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't I wish everybody well. I

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 2>think I'm so happy and proud for anything anybody does,

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.959
<v Speaker 2>because when we struggle so hard anyway as a people,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but for anybody black, white, oh young, I'm happy for everybody.

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 2>If I see you going up, Hey you need some help,

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I help you. Doesn't. I've never been a jealous. I've

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 2>never been in me none of that. I've always wished

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody best. And I think if you do that, then

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you'll be because like the Bible said, whatever place you

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 2>be content. Even when I was in homeless, I mean

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I was. I was content because I knew

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 2>where I was going.

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious, from when you were homeless, did you

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>ever make a buddy that you were homeless with that

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you're still friends with? So today, I know that was random.

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 2>No, that was That's a good one. There was a

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.239
<v Speaker 2>guy named Gary, Kay, k Sam, and Carlos. It was

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 2>four of us and we were all like this homeless group.

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>That's all the age.

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were all in this. Say I was the

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>youngest and we were all downtown homeless together. They kind

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of helped me out because they called me young blood, okay,

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>and so they took care of me. But yeah, we

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>became like a little downtown LA homeless group. So but

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Gary went back to New York. I don't know where

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>k is. Carlos, I don't know where Carlos went back

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 2>to Sam and Carlos h and when of them had

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 2>got into a fight, bad fight, he had to go

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 2>back to New York. But yeah, but I haven't talked

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>to him a while, and I still see a lot

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of the people.

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I was just in sacks and something in Beverly and

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm walking and this girl goes, cut your boy? What

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the hell? Who the hell said it? And it was

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>this girl she was like and she was one behind

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.399
<v Speaker 2>the count and she was a country boy. I was like, damn,

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>not country boy anymore. And she was a girl that

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>was we had met when we were homeless. She her

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 2>family was in that little homeless hotel that they me too.

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just warm. It's just warm. It's just warm

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>that I don't like me. It looks like it looks

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 2>like this.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Yo, you should always have a gas

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>stove for the rest.

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Of your life. I agree. And if I had one

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of these, it would be on all the time. I

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>would never forget to turn off.

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I remember this story. Okay, So I have

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>four there's four siblings, and it was me. I have

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>an older brother, a little brother, and a twin. And

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>one time I left plastic on the stove and my

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>parents had left. My mom is a crazy, abusive Jamaican,

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>full blood Jamaican crazy, So yeah, so I leave this

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>on the stove, catches fire, and I assure you that

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we were so scared of my mom. Luckily it was snowing.

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Us three kids managed to grab the fire and the

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>pot and everything and throw it out in the snow.

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole house was like engulfed in black smoke.

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>My mom still beat us, still sends us to the

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>basement and everything. But the firefighters were like, yo, your

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>kids like saved your house.

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know, well, why did it catch fire?

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I had left something been down.

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.800
<v Speaker 2>In the basement. Your brothers had suffered from you.

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>So she whipped me and like literally I had a

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>scar across my face for a long time.

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And damn she was abusive, sound like the way we were.

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was abusive.

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Trust me.

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I have the same issues you have. But I like

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about it because I'm curious now that I get older,

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I do therapy. Do you go to therapy?

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Have you not? Really?

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I I'm just so surprised because you're so well rounded,

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it seems, but you don't have any consistent thing that

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>pops up between you and your personal relationships that stand out. Wow,

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>God definitely had his hand on you.

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 2>You just have to. I just believe it's here.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Every though, Also that you take care of your mom.

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So what does your mom and your relationship look like?

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Now? Well, it's not that good. But here's my thing.

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of brothers at all. Everybody's kind

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>of that kind of little have a little thing against her,

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>and you know, because you know you didn't care. Da

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 2>da da da da da da. But me, I tell

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 2>my brothers my mom ran away from sixteen when she

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:21.879
<v Speaker 2>got to New York. She was this beautiful young girl.

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>She was all of these different singers and movie stars.

0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>She was used, so she never really knew what love was.

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 2>So whenever saying she didn't love me, I can't expect

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>her love because she told us she didn't want any kids.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.280
<v Speaker 2>With all accidents, so she didn't want us to any kids.

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.800
<v Speaker 2>So I get that, and I understand that, and I

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 2>don't harp on it. And you know, I can't say, oh,

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>she ain't love me. Of course she didn't love me.

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want me, So I get it. She was you.

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 2>She never really knew love, so I'm pasted it all.

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I block it out because stress cost is all of that,

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and stress is what ages you.

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you look good, but I don't you let

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>me so good in person. I was surprised that he's I.

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Let no one, I let nothing ever bothered me. I

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>don't care. Why. If I went somewhere right now and

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I fell in a ski accident and they said, you

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 2>know what, we're gonna have ampler tap both of your leaders,

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, this is gonna hurt. That's all

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I would get. Really, I wouldn't give up. And nothing

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 2>in my life's gonna change. I promise you. In about

0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 2>another eight months, I'm gonna have some some things on

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 2>my leg and I'm gonna be running over.

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:27.759
<v Speaker 1>There, your brother. If I were to ask your brother, like, hey,

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was there ever a point where you saw Miguel like broken?

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 2>No, because he was. He was a little baby when

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:33.919
<v Speaker 2>I left.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, but even in your whole life, there was

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing that ever had you shook.

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 2>No, nothing, nothing, nothing could I can't think of anything

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 2>that could shake me.

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Nothing in the whole career, nothing brought you to question.

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Never I already know is it.

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how that is possible, that your faith is

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>so strong that it's never.

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw it for some reason. I swear to God

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>it was more than a dream. I literally can honestly

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 2>say I knew it. I knew it. I knew it,

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know how I knew it. I don't

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 2>know where it came from, but I knew it.

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>So did you end up taking acting classes?

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 2>No, never, don't need you too. What do you do?

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>You just empathize really well with the characters.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's like I've always studied actors and the

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 2>good ones, and I watched them how they do it.

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I did start in the acting class once about I

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.920
<v Speaker 2>was in there for about two weeks. But then the

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>guy I start doing it, he was like, come on,

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 2>come on. He was using me to show her about

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 2>how to do it. Every time. I don't need to

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 2>be but I just looked at it, look at it

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like this, and this has always worked for me. My

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 2>philosophy is this, if you do say, think and react

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:53.280
<v Speaker 2>exactly how you would really think, say, look and react

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 2>in whatever that scene is, you don't have to act.

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to act. I was still homeless when

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I did Friday thirteen and that thing crying and screaming.

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else we've been wondering how they look. I got

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>kill taking a ship and Friday thirteen, Part five was

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 2>in my first movie, and I was screaming and crying.

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I never acted in my life, and all of the

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>tales and everything were flowing. But I just I didn't

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 2>know how I was gonna do it. I just knew if, okay,

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 2>if you and now what's gonna happen, Shit, iver hit

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the gym, You're gonna do it. I just always do exactly. Now,

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 2>when you go in there with all that bravado, trying

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to be the movie star and trying to have all

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 2>this went about how you look and how you're gonna

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>feel and all of that, it's a whole different story.

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna believable.

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was h I hate to throw names out there,

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>but I always feel like some actors give an example,

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like maybe like some of these actors that really almost

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>more care about how they look, they really aren't that actors.

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it. I don't want to call

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>out names, but like you know what I no, no,

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I think is a really good actor. But I think no.

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 1>For instance, like I think Halle Berry and Jennifer Lopez, honestly,

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they're really great actors, but they don't really

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>care how they look on camera.

0:57:56.000 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't, and if you do, I don't

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 2>care what you think. People see it, yeah and feel it.

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know. Yeah. So now that So, I was

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>talking to a young actor recently and he was talking

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>about how there is this thing in Hollywood with the

0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>black male actors. Do you see any like preference or

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>leaning towards like your typical because it sounds like when

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you were growing up going through your career, if you

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>were the most chosen, then they were like, well maybe

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>we should skip past him and give someone else a shot.

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:33.680
<v Speaker 1>But now I hear young actors saying, well, no, that

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>they want the safe looking dude like the Michael B. Jordan.

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>They want this safe looking black guy in a lot

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>of roles. You don't deal with any of that.

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm safe.

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And then now that your career is so long, do

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you even have to do a lot of casting or

0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>do you.

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Just only for black productions, only for black productions. I

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 2>don't get it. I don't understand why only black productions

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 2>really every white production. Everything, they just call and start

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>getting into it. Only black production ask me the audition.

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Only black people. Black productions ask me for that stuff. Now,

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, but it is what it is.

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Would you prefer to work for black productions though?

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I would prefer to work for any productions that has integrity, honesty,

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 2>and care about the cast, the crew, and everybody except

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 2>lining their own pockets. Yeah. Yeah, that's my thing, because

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I've never wanted all them. I want everybody

0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to make money. I want everybody to be happy. I

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>want everybody. That's the way it should because there is enough.

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 2>But right now, producers, I want to be doing a

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>big interview very very soon, and I'm gonna break some

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 2>shit down.

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you do it right now?

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't do it right now. I can't do it

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Why would he say that?

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't do it right now? But you got the

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 2>first preview, so you can work bad. Yeah, okay, America, come.

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Back and do it. What's up with this bio pic

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 1>on you? I feel like it would be really good.

0:59:58.360 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm writing now. I'll let you read it first.

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll hold you to that.

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I promise you can give me your opinion, because I'm

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.120
<v Speaker 2>writing a whole lot of stuff in it, and I

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>was trying to edit some things because I know some ship,

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and I had to leave out the eighties and nineties

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:14.200
<v Speaker 2>because that's going to be Why.

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Why would you leave anything in your story out?

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't put this ship. That's a whole different book.

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:21.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole different book.

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I love to read.

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:28.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's like if I was if God dog be

1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in the rooms I've been in, princesses kings because movie stars,

1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 2>sports stars in the.

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>What is the craziest thing that you've seen in the

1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>industry that by far left your speechless? That won't get

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:45.919
<v Speaker 1>you in trouble that you can.

1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell now because my ship is like Kat

1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Williams on steroids, all of this stuff. You remember the

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.200
<v Speaker 2>places I've been, the people I've been with, the things

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I hung out with. So I'm already writing a book,

1:00:58.000 --> 1:00:59.520
<v Speaker 2>but I want to do it tastefully, so I don't

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 2>expose anybody except the ones that deserve it.

1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Except the ones that deserve it. Can you name some

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>people that you're believing me nothing?

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, we'll do a part. Any major star in

1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the eighties and nineties, any one of the biggest on

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the planet. I hung out with him, chilling at home

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<v Speaker 2>in private settings and parties everyone and some ship. You

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that's things that about stars nobody could believe, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's weird to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, do you think it's weird that, like like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this stuff is coming out now that since

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<v Speaker 1>the me too movement, like with P Diddy and.

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<v Speaker 2>The Man show quest do you believe all that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about p Diddy? Me?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred? Everybody say that, well P Diddy has had

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<v Speaker 1>a very and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to me. I didn't even know all of

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<v Speaker 2>that until somebody said it. I mean, you mean me,

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<v Speaker 2>that ain't true, And everybody keeps saying like you, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like really, everybody's like really, really, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first got into seven Guy, I would hear

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<v Speaker 1>stories about like you would go into uh his record label,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the interns would be running up, like asking

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<v Speaker 1>for food to eat. They were all starving over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you hear about his publishing deals. You heard that

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<v Speaker 1>he recently released his publishing but after I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the girl from Danny Kane said, yeah, after the

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<v Speaker 1>publishing was worth absolutely nothing, and then they had to sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Shop Shop Stop Shop.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to sign n das so that they could

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<v Speaker 1>not release any details about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you're gonna get if you sign an

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<v Speaker 2>NDA and you're not gonna talk about something for signing

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<v Speaker 2>something that's worth nothing, that don't make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. She didn't sign it, she said.

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<v Speaker 1>She offered to pay everyone out in the group, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will pay you what it's worth to not sign

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<v Speaker 1>this NDA. Who there was the what was her name,

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<v Speaker 1>Aubrey Day or something. Okay, So so you so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe none of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've hung out with I was, I've

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<v Speaker 2>hung out with it. I've never seen nothing but a nice, swell,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing guy. And everybody always say, Miguel, you keep saying

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<v Speaker 2>that you ain't seen nothing. Of course you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see nothing. They're not gonna show it around you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think bisexual quality, no, none, whatsoever. None. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There was rumors swirling about that man for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I heard that and then they said, Miguel,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that that everybody in the Mama's gay, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know them all, and I don't never seen anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all my friends said, Miguel, they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do it because they know you. You got a big mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be like, you know somebody, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have a big mouth because you haven't said nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but this is no, no, no no. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would have done it right then if something would have happened,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'd have been somewhere and somebody had made he

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<v Speaker 2>talking about I went outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Megga, you know what just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You believe what I just saw them all. I swear

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<v Speaker 2>to God, they had, I would have been telling everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't have been no wait some years.

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<v Speaker 1>And but I also think that people probably wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of you, because I think that more

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<v Speaker 1>people with a high morale, people tend to shield them.

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<v Speaker 2>From Do you believe in an Illuminati whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 2>that means.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe in that. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason why I say that is because when I

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<v Speaker 1>first became Christian later in life, I'm raised Jewish, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know that I remember people trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say that jay Z was an Illuminati, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, he's my favorite rapper of all time. But

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<v Speaker 1>have YouTube videos.

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<v Speaker 2>And but hood on think okay, so let me get

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<v Speaker 2>the track. You said, Oh no, because what is the

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<v Speaker 2>old No, what what is the Illuminatis? That it would

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<v Speaker 2>be a oh no, what is it? What is the Illuminati?

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to be some group of people that

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<v Speaker 1>I guess worship the devil.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what it is, Okay, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that worship the devil. That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Illuminatis they worshiped the devil or they Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think, to me, I think that's far far

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<v Speaker 2>more ludicrous than you, a folks, Ludacris what. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's far more ridiculous and ignorant than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I agree. I saw some

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<v Speaker 1>of the YouTube videos about jay Z when I was

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<v Speaker 1>first becoming Christian. This guy was like trying to convince

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<v Speaker 1>me that, like, you know, he believed in the devil

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<v Speaker 1>because I listened to jay Z a lot. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>my big painting of jay right, I try to get everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>To look at that pain.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that, and oh you did you like it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's the only one in the world. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom did it for me when I was like twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid it. Your mother painted, Yeah, she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She has way better work than that. That's actually one

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<v Speaker 1>of her worst works. She's always like, sell it to

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z. I'm like, I'm never gonna sell it to

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z. Wow. But if he paid me enough, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>sell it and then you'd pay you again to make

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<v Speaker 1>me a second.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you got to keep the original. The risk her

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<v Speaker 2>to make him one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you saw the You know what makes that painting

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<v Speaker 1>so unique is that in the way when I see

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<v Speaker 1>that paint.

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<v Speaker 2>One left this camera and walk out there so they

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<v Speaker 2>could show him.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should show them though, since we're talking about I know.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talk about it, they'll get an impost at

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<v Speaker 1>it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, yeah that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, one of the things I like about

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<v Speaker 1>that painting and the reason why it stuck out to

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<v Speaker 1>me is like, I'm always the broke girl that has

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<v Speaker 1>these dreams like past my environment. I'm always the one

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone's like, you're crazy, You're crazy for having that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Now after so many years, people are like, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever she wants to do. But I like that

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<v Speaker 1>he looked past his environment, and that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened with you. That is exactly what happened with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter what your environment was like, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I'm going, and nothing chaotic around me

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<v Speaker 1>can stop me from reaching that deck.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the problem with kids in America, especially our people,

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<v Speaker 2>because we are so we're looking at our This world

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<v Speaker 2>is so much bigger than your neighborhood, your click, where

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<v Speaker 2>you from. It's a great, big world out there. And

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<v Speaker 2>if some of these kids, I mean you can suffer

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<v Speaker 2>and anywhere. They just got out of their comfort zone,

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<v Speaker 2>their little area. They're scared and venture out. I know

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<v Speaker 2>one in mind Fire family had been in California something.

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<v Speaker 2>My uncle drove a car and sold it here. But

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<v Speaker 2>now I got kids born here, brothers and families and

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<v Speaker 2>nephews and nieces. I started at migration in California. You

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<v Speaker 2>could be that person in your hometown, in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of that neighborhood. If you're not prospering there,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do the same thing. If you ain't doing

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<v Speaker 2>nothing there, you can do the same thing somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>People are so afraid to get out of their comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They're afraid to get out and do whatever it is

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me that is necessary to do what to achieve

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<v Speaker 2>their goals. They're afraid. Don't be afraid, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>be understand. It has to be afraid. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>be afraid if you don't have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to be afraid of if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan. But I've been working on a course

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<v Speaker 1>called like Entrepreneur Mindset, and the first thing I teach

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<v Speaker 1>is getting out of your comfort zone. I'm like, get

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<v Speaker 1>out of your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>So, we live in Los Angeles and there's kids that

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<v Speaker 1>live here right now that have never been to the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait what. And they're in the hood, They're

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<v Speaker 1>not even that far from the beach and they have

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<v Speaker 1>never been to the beach. And I told myself when

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Trevor no Have you read Trevor Noah?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I want you. I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. One of my favorite books

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<v Speaker 1>of all time is Trevor Noah's book Born a Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things his mom would do when

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<v Speaker 1>he was younger was she would take him to the

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<v Speaker 1>rich neighborhoods and show him all the big mansions. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so essential for kids to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of that everyday cycle. And I think that really paid.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a pinnacle thing that she did, that paved

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<v Speaker 1>the way to now you know, he owns home next

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<v Speaker 1>time Meltrum, Bendela or whatever. And I think it play.

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<v Speaker 1>It plays a huge role. Even my daughter, she's too

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<v Speaker 1>She's been on the plane like fourteen times.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids all over the world before there was ten.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's another thing. You got to get him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I want to start an organization I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>it where taking all these kids from.

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<v Speaker 1>The hood to Africa because I would love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because let me tell you something. If I took

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<v Speaker 2>twenty kids to Africa from the poorest neighborhoods in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and I take them on tour Africa, and

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<v Speaker 2>when every one of them came back, I promise you,

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody in their neighborhood, in their family, in their

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<v Speaker 2>school ever say you we're poor and you're poor, They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look at them saying you're a damn lie. We

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<v Speaker 2>are not poor. You don't even know what poor is.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't know what poorst When they come back over there,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna look at their whole situation differently.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Africa as that amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, it's amazing. But when you go to the poorest

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<v Speaker 2>places and see why they're living in little mud hunts

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<v Speaker 2>and the ain't got no food and this is for

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<v Speaker 2>the whole family, and they have to sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>cut it up into eight pieces, that's really and they

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing nothing. You go in their houses and you

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<v Speaker 2>see and then you come back here and you look

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<v Speaker 2>at you walk in your nice AS's house, close your door,

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<v Speaker 2>got beds and stuff, and talking about we poor you

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<v Speaker 2>got shit in refrigerator. Over there they got nothing. Every

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<v Speaker 2>one of those kids will come back and all twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five of them will spread out like a cancer and

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<v Speaker 2>change the mindset of people around them, and their mindsets

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<v Speaker 2>will be changed. And then they're sure we bring a

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<v Speaker 2>different group next year. Each one of them may be

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<v Speaker 2>bring somebody who they after telling people who they think

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<v Speaker 2>need now. Next week, next year we take fifty over.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like, Jews have a birthright. Sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're going over bohead, go ahead, but birthright.

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<v Speaker 1>Jews have this thing. I think it's up to the

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<v Speaker 1>age of twenty seven that if you have Jewish blood

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<v Speaker 1>in you, you could go to Israel for fourteen days

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<v Speaker 1>fully paid for for free.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Wait wait, wait, wait say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are is that right now? Yes to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>if all the way up to I think the age

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty seven, if you have jew blood in you,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to Israel for fourteen days for free

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<v Speaker 1>under birthright, so you can go. Yeah, you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>So what if you got something else juwe blood And

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<v Speaker 2>I go, yeah, no, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>So funny because I ended up paying later because when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, I was dumb, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so much going on. But then I went

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<v Speaker 1>later and I ended up on a plane where the

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<v Speaker 1>whole birthright group and I was like, I have was

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<v Speaker 1>so silly, but I think African Americans need to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's why Ghana, that's why Ghana is doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know right now doing a birthright type thing

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<v Speaker 2>if you are African American? H Ghana said, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know they told you, well they're going to give you

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<v Speaker 2>four the acre it's and me, we know they told

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<v Speaker 2>you that. So if you're African American, you set foot

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<v Speaker 2>in Ghana, you're automatic citizen, really and you get a

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<v Speaker 2>free house? What? Yes, we need to I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>ten acres. I think you are. I think, yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to Ghana. You want to?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you can do a Ghana trip.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You really want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that serious because I have some some government people

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<v Speaker 2>over there too. Also, there's another.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gone right, we should do it together.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you heard it, you heard it, you canlog it.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard it. I've done. It'll be huge, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>go on?

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<v Speaker 1>So what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's another couple of other African countries that

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<v Speaker 2>I am also doing that Feet to Earth. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Israel did. Why can't in Africa do if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get people back home, give them automatic citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Every African American over here should the moment they set

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<v Speaker 2>foot on any African land, African Union national, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>should do this. There should be a citizen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and that would help.

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<v Speaker 1>I want I want to do the Ghana. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hold you to you know, Steve, Steve want

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<v Speaker 2>to move the right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ghana.

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<v Speaker 1>What how long is those flights? So there long?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh a long flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it. We're gonna do it together.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard that right here.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I'm gonna literally all right, Well, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>What can like, what other projects do you have coming

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<v Speaker 1>up that we could kind of stay tuned in for?

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<v Speaker 1>And how can people keep up with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can follow me on my I g is

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<v Speaker 2>M and you n easy j R. M. June is Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>also on TikTok and but I am working on a

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<v Speaker 2>project right now or you know, Family is season five

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<v Speaker 2>is coming, but we just finished season five Family, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be fire surprises coming. But also we're developing

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<v Speaker 2>a Jawana Man two as well. So and then after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna hit the road for about five

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<v Speaker 2>years and just travel really all over the world. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can do the GNA trip.

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<v Speaker 1>What about this biopic?

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<v Speaker 2>What about it? I'm just writing it, so it's ways way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll join the five year trip. We'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>sending sending script. I'll be reading your BioPen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, No, I'm gonna give you what I wrote now

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<v Speaker 2>and you can just read it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you right now, if I end

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<v Speaker 1>up reading this, I am going to be the person

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna come back with more questions. You like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that, and I'm gonna be like you have because

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<v Speaker 2>here's that's why we're going to earlier, because say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let you read it because and I went into it,

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot where I was. But I'm just letting everything

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<v Speaker 2>out and then edit it later, okay, because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much and that's that's why I said, that's why, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. And I said, except the eighties, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you said why then we got into that. I'm leaving

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<v Speaker 2>out eight but I'm going through a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literally I'm just telling it. And the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 2>letting nobody read it is because I'm so much in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, should I say that? Should I do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But I figured it would be better to get it

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<v Speaker 2>out and not edit it on the paper. So I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't let anybody read it because it's so purple.

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<v Speaker 1>I can I can read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you got it. You could give me notes,

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<v Speaker 2>you could give me not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm excited you heard it here first. All right, well,

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