Speaker 1: The boys, Yo hit your boy comp nasty.
Speaker 2: Alongside his boy, not really alongside his boy, but also
Speaker 2: Taylor Luwan, I'm sitting in my fucking girlfriend's closet right
Speaker 2: now recording this intro on this beautiful Monday turn of events.
Speaker 2: My mind's all over the place, So I apologize for
Speaker 2: this weird excitement, just level of whatever. The boy just
Speaker 2: got called by Oakland. I'm about to pack, in the
Speaker 2: middle of packing right now to fly out to Oakland.
Speaker 2: I have a workout tomorrow. Not not on the team yet,
Speaker 2: but big week ahead. I'll keep you guys posted obviously,
Speaker 2: but crazy journey man, you know the boy.
Speaker 1: We're trying to give you guys some podcasts.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Reminder, everything's backlog, so everything you hear is from the summer.
Speaker 1: But exciting shit.
Speaker 2: Man, your boy, your boys going out to Oakland, have
Speaker 2: a try out. Keep you guys updated. But pretty cool shit.
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Speaker 1: What I loved about Slaughterhouse is they had the classics, dude.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's my turn to be in the front,
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Speaker 2: they're a litt subtle favorite of the boy. All right,
Speaker 2: guest today, Michael Chandler. Dude's an MMA fighter, three time
Speaker 2: belt or champion. He's ranking number seven as a as
Speaker 2: a lightweight in the whole freaking world as far as
Speaker 2: all MMA fighters go, UFC, belt or all of it combined. Dude,
Speaker 2: just stud man. He's on quite a journey right now.
Speaker 2: We talk about his journey. We talk about defending the title,
Speaker 2: getting the title, rematching for the title, losing the title.
Speaker 2: He's going. He lost his last fight when he lost
Speaker 2: the belt. He came on the bus, talked about it,
Speaker 2: We talked about uh, we talk about a lot of things. Man,
Speaker 2: What goes onto the mind of a fighter as you're
Speaker 2: in the in the middle of this journey. He's got
Speaker 2: a fight coming up in December, So we're all for
Speaker 2: the boy dude, so be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 2: But awesome conversation Me and Taylor sit down with them.
Speaker 2: Super awesome dude. Man, I'm telling you, he's really uh,
Speaker 2: really unique individual, has a lot of great shift for perspective,
Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff to stay motivated and inspired.
Speaker 2: Big fan of Michael Chandler. You're gonna love the episode,
Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, my puffs go out. There be
Speaker 2: a fucking wolf.
Speaker 4: I love it, dude, I love it. Man, Dude, I'm
Speaker 4: old as fuck now. I don't even know what they
Speaker 4: do anymore. Gone soon, man, And we.
Speaker 2: Usually just start to find there. We usually just go
Speaker 2: into it. We're right, yeah, we're in right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not professional enough to know. We're just like, you
Speaker 2: know what, fuck it. Let's just we don't even just
Speaker 2: start talking. And that's when the podcast starts.
Speaker 1: That's the best, that's the best time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just because I feel like a lot of podcasts
Speaker 4: like they sit there and they're like, all right, hey,
Speaker 4: five minutes boys.
Speaker 3: And then everybody looks at their phone and then you're
Speaker 3: a guest. You don't know these dudes that we know,
Speaker 3: these dudes. You sit there and you're like, all right,
Speaker 3: like what the fuck are these guys gonna ask me?
Speaker 3: Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: And then and then the main guys they got their
Speaker 1: sheet of paper to like read the end about you.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to see our our production crew. They have
Speaker 4: notes on you. Usually it's fucking terrible. Like usually it's
Speaker 4: it says, it says summertime.
Speaker 3: And good luck like that. So what's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: How's life? What's what's up?
Speaker 5: Life is good? Man? Just enjoying life between fights. So
Speaker 5: like between fights when I'm not when I'm not in
Speaker 5: training camp, you know, I can kind of cut back
Speaker 5: a little bit, cut of loose a little bit, hang
Speaker 5: out with the family.
Speaker 3: What's the workout schedule?
Speaker 4: Like though, when you're off fights, like you go to
Speaker 4: a fight, how much time do you take off? And
Speaker 4: so I'm not as well versed in UFC or any
Speaker 4: of that stuff. I do like it. I love watching it.
Speaker 4: So you go hit a fight. When's the next time
Speaker 4: they'll usually have a fight?
Speaker 1: Oh, hang on, hang on, yeh, he actually just lost
Speaker 1: his belt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh jesus, So this is a depression podcast, a depression.
Speaker 1: It's actually going to be a bad it's gone.
Speaker 5: You guys got sound effects and stuff. I mean, more
Speaker 5: than more than anything right now in my life is
Speaker 5: realizing what is most important, realizing you know that this
Speaker 5: fight game is about the journey and not the wins
Speaker 5: and losses. But you know, this last fight wasn't I
Speaker 5: didn't take a ton of damage. It was like very quick.
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy off. Do you feel like it was
Speaker 2: too short? They stopped it too short?
Speaker 5: No, you're fine, Yeah, I know. It's so hard being
Speaker 5: in my position because I of course I I'm the
Speaker 5: guy who lost. I'm the guy who you know. So
Speaker 5: the good thing is there's a lot of people out
Speaker 5: there who thought it was an early stoppage, a lot
Speaker 5: of people out there who thought I got wronged. So
Speaker 5: you let them do the talking. You let them do
Speaker 5: it because because if it's you, then you just and truthfully,
Speaker 5: I think it It was an awesome the way that
Speaker 5: it happened. And then when I got onto the you know,
Speaker 5: when I got onto the mic afterwards, people were like, man,
Speaker 5: that was one of the coolest losses I've ever seen,
Speaker 5: or like one of the best speeches after a loss
Speaker 5: I've ever seen, So like a like a great lose,
Speaker 5: great loser.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, what I can't.
Speaker 1: So this guy what's his name? Pat?
Speaker 5: And he came up right yeah, personal, it's pretty personal.
Speaker 5: I throw a long jab here, he just catches me
Speaker 5: behind the ear.
Speaker 1: Right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's some bullsh So it was crazy too because
Speaker 5: those were illegal shots as well. So I think the
Speaker 5: ref jumped in just as much because they were illegal shots.
Speaker 3: But then, oh, you're mad as fuck here too.
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, you're just trying to you're holding it in, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you are.
Speaker 5: And and it's and when you and and I truthfully
Speaker 5: think that they should never let two fighters come together
Speaker 5: like that after a fight, because there's nothing worse than
Speaker 5: the man that just you know, whether it was right,
Speaker 5: whether it was wrong. So right there the top of
Speaker 5: your ear there, right behind the ear.
Speaker 3: That hurts.
Speaker 4: But like I mean, yeah, if you're probably more off
Speaker 4: balance than you were stunted there he missed.
Speaker 1: In your arms.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you kind of you kind of they're putting
Speaker 5: the hands up. I mean, it's were you with a fight.
Speaker 5: So you're you know you guys know, you get boom,
Speaker 5: you get kind of your you're with knocked out about
Speaker 5: you a little bit but you're still white, you're still awake,
Speaker 5: You're still you know, you're still going, but it's there.
Speaker 5: There's a couple different types of knockouts. There's the knockouts
Speaker 5: where you just go stiff, you know, and the toes
Speaker 5: are curling, and then there's the other ones where you
Speaker 5: just loosey goosey. So it's kind of a it's a
Speaker 5: weird thing, you know, the way the body, the way
Speaker 5: the body handles damage like that. But yeah, so my
Speaker 5: body kind of went limp. You kind of just lose.
Speaker 5: You don't lose consciousness, you almost just lose your equilibrium.
Speaker 5: You lose That's what happened.
Speaker 2: You always because the staff will always be concerned about
Speaker 2: I mean in me too, I'm always wondering about you.
Speaker 2: I might concuss or not, because sometimes I'll take hits
Speaker 2: on the head and I'll just like lose the present moment,
Speaker 2: Like i might not be able to feel anything for
Speaker 2: a second, but I'm all there and literally I'm snapped
Speaker 2: out of it. Yeah, you know, after after a second.
Speaker 2: There was one time we always laugh about it. There's
Speaker 2: just Limon, who hit me? He's like night night, motherfucker,
Speaker 2: And you know, I was like stiff, and I couldn't
Speaker 2: really get up at that on that one. But there's
Speaker 2: been a couple to where they'll be coming out hey
Speaker 2: stay down, stad down, and I'm like, yo, I'm literally
Speaker 2: fine now. But I kind of took it for a second.
Speaker 2: Is that Is that what you felt when you took
Speaker 2: that shot in the back of the head.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's well, it's one of those
Speaker 5: things too where you kind of have that flash of
Speaker 5: not much memory too. Yeah, you know, but as you
Speaker 5: can see when I when I went down, I saw
Speaker 5: the punch coming and I dodged it, so I had
Speaker 5: my wits about me there, or maybe it was just instinct.
Speaker 5: And that's why that is one of the reasons why
Speaker 5: we have to train so hard. We train sixty minutes
Speaker 5: for a twenty five minute fight, right, you know, forty
Speaker 5: five minutes for a fifteen minute fight, because you want
Speaker 5: your body to be able to react on just instinct, right,
Speaker 5: you know. But yeah, that was more of a body
Speaker 5: went limp for a second. But I was, I was
Speaker 5: there and then I remember pretty much everything after that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, you're sure you're getting up too,
Speaker 4: like you're you're trying to get up. But then a ref,
Speaker 4: you contel has already made the decision. He's already putting
Speaker 4: himself in there. And I don't know what it is
Speaker 4: to be a ref, especially in all bellotore right, it
Speaker 4: was called bellator. You have seen those types of things.
Speaker 4: But I feel like when you make a decision, you
Speaker 4: have to be very quick because there's being punches thrown. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so if you're like, I got to okay, the fight's over,
Speaker 4: you got to dive in there.
Speaker 3: Nothing twice about it. I think if he waited half a.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's and I think that's what it is too.
Speaker 5: I would not want that job. I mean probably the
Speaker 5: same thing with you guys.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to be an.
Speaker 5: NFL ref either, when the whole game could be on
Speaker 5: your back. Nobody wants Nobody wants to be that, right.
Speaker 5: You know, they don't get they don't get paid enough
Speaker 5: for the you know, the the position they're in. But
Speaker 5: you know, especially in mixed martial arts, like you said, yeah,
Speaker 5: they have to make a split second decision based upon
Speaker 5: what they see, and a lot of times it happened.
Speaker 5: It happened with a guy that I wrestled with, Ben
Speaker 5: asking remember him yeah, so he he had a really
Speaker 5: bad that was that was bad.
Speaker 1: That was une flying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was bad. Bring that up, Ben Asking.
Speaker 5: But before that, he had a guy it looked like
Speaker 5: he was choked choked him out, so the ref jumped
Speaker 5: in and then right right as the ref jumped in,
Speaker 5: so he let go and the guy Robbi Lawler was
Speaker 5: just like, what happened? What are you doing?
Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to chokeouts, I feel like
Speaker 4: you either got to tap you right, he's kind of
Speaker 4: It's super easy to tell when someone's lost consciousness, especially
Speaker 4: and choking it out.
Speaker 5: This is bad, dude.
Speaker 2: This isn't the flying knee I was telling you about
Speaker 2: that we should have talked about while you're yelling at me.
Speaker 3: It's nice in the morning.
Speaker 5: So here's the very beginning of the fight.
Speaker 3: This dude comes, Oh he's down.
Speaker 5: That's the beginning, you know, houck stracking him to the fight.
Speaker 1: So it's you.
Speaker 3: You know that dude taught at the ship out of
Speaker 3: him and he was out too. Yeah, So who's this cat?
Speaker 5: So this is the guy that guy just knocked out?
Speaker 5: Was Ben asking? You guys wrestled together one of the
Speaker 5: greatest human beings on earth.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5: But this dude right here, man long hair, freaking braided
Speaker 5: in the backyard, you know, some shorts on, no shirt,
Speaker 5: just blaring it out, bare knuckle. And now he's been
Speaker 5: in and he's been in all the all the major organizations,
Speaker 5: even in the Strike Force. He was in BELATOI, now
Speaker 5: I was in the UFC. Honestly, he was written off
Speaker 5: for a long time. He's got like thirteen fift he losses.
Speaker 5: But that's what this sport, That's what this sport breeds.
Speaker 5: You're as long as you can go from setback to
Speaker 5: setback or loss the loss without losing the momentum or
Speaker 5: losing the faith, or maybe you just don't have another option,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean like if I lost a bunch
Speaker 5: of fights in a row, I'd probably be like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hang it up, and these move on to
Speaker 5: other endeavors. But you know a lot of these guys
Speaker 5: don't have a lot to fall back on them either.
Speaker 1: They're still fighting.
Speaker 2: Like Arlovsky I just saw fighting the other night and
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, what the mark is he still fighting?
Speaker 1: Now? Dude?
Speaker 5: He's any any just set three records twenty years Yeah,
Speaker 5: twenty years he was.
Speaker 1: He was a champ too, like like eighteen years ago.
Speaker 1: But he's know, why is he still fighting?
Speaker 5: He's just yeah, And I bet you know, he's getting
Speaker 5: paid pretty I'm sure he's getting paid really well. And
Speaker 5: he's you know, I don't know. Those heavyweights can always
Speaker 5: fight longer than a lot of the lighter weights because
Speaker 5: it's not as much based on speed and and cardio
Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff. You know, they're just bigger,
Speaker 5: and everything's a little slower barbaric, barbarics technical, not maybe
Speaker 5: not as not not as technical, but just everything is
Speaker 5: a a lot slower. Like so for me, I'm going
Speaker 5: to lose my speed and my quickness compared to another
Speaker 5: fifty five Yeah, a lot faster, a lot faster than
Speaker 5: and Arlovsky who's now forty something years old. He can
Speaker 5: still hang with those those heavyweights now they all get
Speaker 5: you know, take a lot of damage to get knocked
Speaker 5: out a lot. So hopefully hopefully they're all right.
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of information. I just close. What's okay?
Speaker 4: So I walked in here, said, UFC, you fight, you
Speaker 4: fight for beltar BELATOI yeah, So what's the difference between
Speaker 4: belatour UFC, and what was the other one Force Strikeforce.
Speaker 5: Strike Force is an older organization. They're not they're not
Speaker 5: around anymore. UFC bought them. There's one FC that's mainly
Speaker 5: based over in Asia. They're coming over here, opening up
Speaker 5: US US offices here. But essentially it's all the same sport.
Speaker 5: It would be just it would be exactly like the
Speaker 5: rules that you guys play in the NFL, and a
Speaker 5: new league came up with the exact same leag but
Speaker 5: it was just a different league. The main difference. The
Speaker 5: main difference is the UFC is the biggest. It's been
Speaker 5: around since nineteen ninety three, so they've just celebrated their
Speaker 5: twenty fifth anniversary. Belotore has been around since two thousand
Speaker 5: and eight, so they're, you know, just ten years into it.
Speaker 5: So Bellotour's gaining steam. One FC is coming, you know,
Speaker 5: coming in with with taking taking kind of the may
Speaker 5: world by storm because they're paying guys better and you know,
Speaker 5: doing some big shows over in Asia. So Bellatore's taken
Speaker 5: really great care of me. I've been with them since
Speaker 5: the beginning of my career. Really I came in. They
Speaker 5: used to do a tournament where it'd be eight eight
Speaker 5: guys in a bracket, three fights in three months. So
Speaker 5: I fought March, April and May of twenty eleven and
Speaker 5: oh that's dope, and then fought November twenty eleven. It
Speaker 5: was like one hundred thousand dollars tournament, and then I
Speaker 5: fought for the world title all in one year. So
Speaker 5: I saw a great path to be able to get
Speaker 5: to you know, top five in the world with Belatore,
Speaker 5: and then I've kind of made myself an indispensable asset
Speaker 5: and that's always the goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have do you want to be in
Speaker 1: the UFC?
Speaker 2: Like what I like, what's the thought behind sitting back
Speaker 2: and being like, obviously UFC is the most popular, it's
Speaker 2: the most known, and you know the ins and outs
Speaker 2: of it. So you're like, oh, I'm gonna stay putting
Speaker 2: beltur for I know my reasons why, and they're better reasons,
Speaker 2: but it's just you.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeall want to get in the fucking UFC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Just to put things into perspective too, like the NFL,
Speaker 4: Like there's there's a bunch of the league, there's the XFL.
Speaker 4: There was a a f a f L right, a
Speaker 4: aa aof or something like that. They just they seventy
Speaker 4: dollars down the drain, like didn't even get a whole season. Uh,
Speaker 4: there's this the CFL. Like there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: different football leagues.
Speaker 5: But the one is the NFL.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to play in the NFL is with the money,
Speaker 4: is the best, publicity is the best, the best team,
Speaker 4: is the best talent and all that. I don't know
Speaker 4: if that like I think, I don't know if that
Speaker 4: is it the same or as Belts were.
Speaker 1: Like Belt is pretty real.
Speaker 3: But the UFC you think of like Econocon McGregor. You
Speaker 3: have the Na Diaz guy, you had all the all
Speaker 3: those dudes and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so here here here's what I would say. School
Speaker 5: is bro let me school you guys up real quick.
Speaker 5: And it's hard to because you know, like to be
Speaker 5: real truthful will hurt people's feelings in this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But but really, when you have all the power you can,
Speaker 5: you can suppress the wages. Right, So it's actually the opposite.
Speaker 5: So the UFC is the biggest organization, yet I would
Speaker 5: say that they pay they pay less to the smaller third,
Speaker 5: the smaller you know of the guys now now well,
Speaker 5: I will say, if you go over there, you play
Speaker 5: your cards right, you when your you win your fights,
Speaker 5: you do your job, you can make millions and millions
Speaker 5: of dollars like Connor has, like Kabeb has, like like
Speaker 5: John Jones, and these person that can help you exactly
Speaker 5: and in that they're in the top one percent. So
Speaker 5: it's it's it's hard to say, but I've I've made
Speaker 5: my decisions based upon what's the best decision for myself
Speaker 5: and my family, my future family. Whenever I was you know,
Speaker 5: just had a wife and didn't have a son. Now,
Speaker 5: but now I just signed another contract about it a
Speaker 5: year ago and have another year or so left on it.
Speaker 5: And I made that decision based upon finances. I mean,
Speaker 5: you don't go, you don't leave your current job, your
Speaker 5: current company, your current situation for a different situation that
Speaker 5: will pay you less, that you might might get less
Speaker 5: respect and all that. Because the other thing, too is
Speaker 5: I am I've made myself an indispensable asset to it
Speaker 5: to a great organization was take really taking really really
Speaker 5: great care of me. If I go to the UFC,
Speaker 5: I'm just another face as well. Now guy, Now there's
Speaker 5: people all over the world and I see it every day,
Speaker 5: and I would love to see you fight. I'd love
Speaker 5: to see if fight could be. But we'd love to
Speaker 5: see you fight these top guys in the world because
Speaker 5: they think I can hang with them or maybe even
Speaker 5: beat them. But going in making less money and then
Speaker 5: having to fight five of the top five of the
Speaker 5: top ten guys just to get to that maybe title
Speaker 5: shot where they can dangle the carrot and say, hey,
Speaker 5: if you win these five fights plus this one, you'll
Speaker 5: make X amount of dollars. Blah blah blah. I'm not
Speaker 5: into that. I've proven myself, you know.
Speaker 2: So you're even saying the bellatour like they they they
Speaker 2: can take care of guys better than what the UFC
Speaker 2: would do.
Speaker 5: So I think I think it's just spread out a
Speaker 5: little bit more. I think I think the highest earners
Speaker 5: in the entire world will always be the UFC guys
Speaker 5: because of the pay per view model, because of how
Speaker 5: big they are and how much money they spend promoting it.
Speaker 5: But there's I mean, when you see when you see
Speaker 5: you know, myself and Ryan Bader, fad or Amillionenko, you know,
Speaker 5: all these all these big name guys, big high, high
Speaker 5: level athlete. Guys that are that are making really great
Speaker 5: money for the sport. When it comes to the sport,
Speaker 5: we're making extremely good money up in that top one percent,
Speaker 5: but the lower half of the UFC and even the
Speaker 5: lower half of bellators not making a lot of money.
Speaker 5: This is a hard, hard business to make a lot
Speaker 5: of money in. And the older I get, the longer
Speaker 5: I'm in the sport, the more I realize how truly
Speaker 5: blessed I am to be in the sport for ten
Speaker 5: years and be at competing at a high level with
Speaker 5: all the world titles that I fought for, and then
Speaker 5: making the money that I'm making too. So it's it's
Speaker 5: a crazy sport. And I would you know, all you
Speaker 5: young kids out there who you know, I can't wait
Speaker 5: to be an m fighter someday. It's uh, it's tough,
Speaker 5: and you got to play your cards right, just like
Speaker 5: being in the NFL, right, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, there's I mean, I can't imagine going like
Speaker 4: I watched the UFC fights all the time, and I'm
Speaker 4: watching these dudes walk in and walking to the ring,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I can't even imagine that feeling. Yeah, Like, well,
Speaker 4: it's probably like it's probably walking out of the tunnel.
Speaker 4: But the same thing, it's like, yeah, I got fifty
Speaker 4: three dudes with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And if you by yourself with like your.
Speaker 4: Your crew, your trainers, cameras and you and people is
Speaker 4: in your face, you got your song going. And it's
Speaker 4: like that's got to be such a surreal feeling. And
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, the stresses that have to come
Speaker 4: with just walking into that ring with somebody. There's got
Speaker 4: to be I mean, there's so much viewing and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. There's lots of money out there. I don't
Speaker 4: know why guys aren't getting paid.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The same thing for the NFL, Like there's a minimum
Speaker 4: for everybody, right and the older you get that eventually
Speaker 4: that minimum gets like I don't think what nine hundred,
Speaker 4: Yeah for the older dudes and the younger When I
Speaker 4: was a rookie, it was like four to twenty or
Speaker 4: something like that. But it's like there's so much money,
Speaker 4: and you would think, like, you know, you offer more money,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have those kids that want to fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing too. I don't want to
Speaker 5: make this a you know, bashing on the organizations like
Speaker 5: they should pay us more. We should get paid more
Speaker 5: for what we do in the UFC. Rightfully, so without
Speaker 5: what Dana White and Lorenzo for Tita and Frank Furtida,
Speaker 5: what those guys did starting this, starting this sport, paving
Speaker 5: the way for all of us to be able to
Speaker 5: make a living, I'm making a living in an organization
Speaker 5: I've never I've never even spoken to Day and Dana White,
Speaker 5: I've never I've never been in the UFC, You've never
Speaker 5: fought in the octagon. But yet what they did since
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three has made me, you know, very financially
Speaker 5: secure to be able to take care of my family
Speaker 5: fighting in a different organization because off of the back
Speaker 5: of the biggest organization in the world and their kind
Speaker 5: of their stock inside the world. So they, you know,
Speaker 5: they deserve to to to make their share as well.
Speaker 5: It would be nice if we made more, But it's
Speaker 5: you know, going back to stepping into the cage, it's
Speaker 5: it's pretty crazy. You know, you just have to know
Speaker 5: that you've done everything you possibly can. You have to
Speaker 5: be you really just have to be willing and able
Speaker 5: to accept the uncertainty that's about to happen, you know,
Speaker 5: just just like my last fight. Man, that's embarrassing. You know,
Speaker 5: just getting knocked out in front of.
Speaker 1: It can end.
Speaker 3: Yes, there go getting knocked out the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Last year and everything, like you work so goddamn hard
Speaker 2: to for something like like it to end that dude
Speaker 2: like that, twelve weeks twelve, you're not even.
Speaker 1: Really out of it.
Speaker 2: It's like you have I'm gonna fucking lose this fast,
Speaker 2: like knock me the fuck, just decapitate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you there.
Speaker 2: Thinking like it's that's it. Yeah, all the however long
Speaker 2: you train like that's it just comes to an end
Speaker 2: that fast.
Speaker 1: Oh boy. Yeah. Here's Tailor's So that's Andre Bran week one.
Speaker 3: This is week one and eighteen season. So I'm running
Speaker 3: right there on the less other and I just get
Speaker 3: blind sided. And that's Andre Branch too.
Speaker 4: He's like a second team slappy like not he's not
Speaker 4: anybody guy.
Speaker 3: He's going to man.
Speaker 5: So he's right here.
Speaker 3: He's yelling body back.
Speaker 4: He's a body back and ninety one there camra Wigs
Speaker 4: now on our team.
Speaker 3: He's now about it, dude, he said.
Speaker 4: So I talked to Kim about it and he's like honestly, dude,
Speaker 4: Like there's the boy shout out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right there.
Speaker 3: So now and then it's a big deal and we're moving.
Speaker 1: Now we're done.
Speaker 5: They stopped the fight with He's like, what stopped? I mean,
Speaker 5: this is my favorite party and they got my back
Speaker 5: on this sil Man see And that's and that's the
Speaker 5: funny thing too. Mixed marshal Let is very similar. Like
Speaker 5: I'm I'm literally training right now with the with the
Speaker 5: team that I lost my first fight ever I lost.
Speaker 5: I beat Eddie Alvarez to win the world title. Work
Speaker 5: is huge, which is huge, But then I lost to
Speaker 5: him about two years later. I'm now training with the
Speaker 5: team that that coached him. I'm now training my my
Speaker 5: head coach, My main head coach coached Eddie Alvarez against
Speaker 5: me two years ago when I lost that fight. Right,
Speaker 5: So it's just it's a weird. It's weird how it's
Speaker 5: such a big world but it's so so small. Just
Speaker 5: like you say, Cameron wakes over there, high five and
Speaker 5: his boys just laid you out, and now he's trying to.
Speaker 3: Lay people out for you, right, you know, so that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How was that conversation?
Speaker 4: What did he so it was like a Regen day
Speaker 4: during OTAs and I was like, Cam, we got a problem.
Speaker 4: And Cam is like a super like soft spoken dude,
Speaker 4: nicest guy, and he's like, what's wrong? And I was like,
Speaker 4: you boy, brandch knocking with the funk out like a
Speaker 4: year high five whatever, Oh what's the deal? And his
Speaker 4: words allegedly he says he didn't know, Like he's like,
Speaker 4: I didn't know, Like I knew there's a commotions. Someone
Speaker 4: got hit, but I don't know who did it or
Speaker 4: or anything like that.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I feel like if it was anybody else, Honestly, if
Speaker 4: it was anybody else, I feel like I'd be like,
Speaker 4: you're full of shit. But Cam, like you watch him
Speaker 4: play games and he's lily just there to get the
Speaker 4: quarterback and go home, yea, so locked in you look,
Speaker 4: it doesn't look like he focused on the riff raft
Speaker 4: the bullshit.
Speaker 5: It is funny too because because people will say that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff, you know, what what did you think
Speaker 5: when this guy did that?
Speaker 1: Or he did that?
Speaker 5: And it's kind of interesting too because I really don't
Speaker 5: look at it like the the entity that I'm about
Speaker 5: to fight is a human being.
Speaker 1: I just see.
Speaker 5: I just see two arms and I see two legs.
Speaker 5: That's my size, and he's trying to take food off
Speaker 5: the off the table for my family. And I don't
Speaker 5: really look at him like it's a person his personality.
Speaker 5: Got a job and yeah you got you got a
Speaker 5: job to do, and you just you do it and
Speaker 5: a lot of times you black out, just go after it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's that emotion?
Speaker 2: Like, Like, obviously you trained for months at a time
Speaker 2: and it's just you're hard working and you start walking
Speaker 2: to the ring and that adrenaline dump or how much
Speaker 2: do you have to probably mentally train for something like
Speaker 2: or a young guy that you're he's probably going into
Speaker 2: his first fight, maybe the big dance walking to the octagon, Like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what are the emotions going back? Here's what you're gonna
Speaker 2: be looking for. Here's how you gotta suppress certain emotions.
Speaker 2: Because again, like it's just you, dude, it's just you.
Speaker 2: And once you enter that ring and it's kind of
Speaker 2: dark and you know everyone's out there and the spotlight's on, like,
Speaker 2: it's got to be a different feeling. And obviously we're
Speaker 2: all jacked to go train every day, but now when
Speaker 2: you're fucking in the arena and the lights are on,
Speaker 2: You're just kind of like, what is that emotion?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, man, you hit the nail on the head
Speaker 5: when you talk about actually having to suppress a lot
Speaker 5: of it too, because I mean, human human emotion, human
Speaker 5: human the human spirit wants to get up for those
Speaker 5: types of types of scenarios. That's why visualizing it stepping
Speaker 5: into the cage before you actually step into the cage.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can close my eyes and I can
Speaker 5: see the walk, I can smell what the cage smells like.
Speaker 5: I can I can feel the heat of the lights.
Speaker 5: I can feel kind of the rumble of the crowd
Speaker 5: like you guys probably can on the field. You can
Speaker 5: feel it. You got it. You got to feel it
Speaker 5: before you actually get there. And really just just realizing
Speaker 5: what where your emotion Like there's a spectrum from you know,
Speaker 5: emotion to energy, and you want to get to an area.
Speaker 5: You want to get to that number, if it's a
Speaker 5: one through ten, you want to get to that number
Speaker 5: where you're gonna perform the best, where you're gonna flow,
Speaker 5: where you're gonna where you're gonna be at your best,
Speaker 5: and kind of fire and all cylinders for me, it
Speaker 5: should be about a five, should be no higher than
Speaker 5: a five. I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 5: have a lot of emotion because emotion drives the heart
Speaker 5: rate up and drives all that stuff up. And a
Speaker 5: lot of times can we make a mistake. But also
Speaker 5: too when you see people like in a fight and
Speaker 5: you say, oh my gosh, he's gassed. He's not really
Speaker 5: out of shape. He probably just got into a situation,
Speaker 5: into a scenario where his a heart rate got elevated.
Speaker 5: He didn't have his emotions in check, and he, you know,
Speaker 5: he lost that cardio. Same thing with wrestling, man, Like
Speaker 5: you know you grew up watching your brother. I'm sure, right, Cody.
Speaker 1: I wrestled. I wrestled up until I quit have the
Speaker 1: sixth grade. Hated it.
Speaker 2: Parents forced me to do it again in a high
Speaker 2: school or I would be grounded for the winter.
Speaker 5: And you look like you when you look like you
Speaker 5: like I. I I played football, but I didn't really
Speaker 5: play for all. I was like, you know, I was like,
Speaker 5: wrestling is good for me because of weight classes, right,
Speaker 5: you know so? But you know, same thing with wrestling, man,
Speaker 5: I had, you know, matches where you get taken down
Speaker 5: in the first thirty seconds of a match, and all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're the negativity goes to the to
Speaker 5: the to the roof, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 5: you lose that match, and you feel like your feed
Speaker 5: are in quicksand and feeder in cement blocks, you know.
Speaker 5: So as you're as you're walking into the cage. A
Speaker 5: lot of times too, I talk about talking to myself
Speaker 5: instead of hearing, you know. So yeah, you know, because
Speaker 5: because I think if you just are sitting there, you know,
Speaker 5: the human I think they are. Our brains were wired
Speaker 5: for that, that fight or flight, that like survival mode,
Speaker 5: and you know, and you're always worried about threats, possible threats.
Speaker 5: There's a million perceivable threats. When you're walking into a
Speaker 5: cage with the manu, one s rip your head off.
Speaker 5: So instead of thinking about that, instead of just sitting
Speaker 5: there in silence and hearing what might come into my mind,
Speaker 5: because just one negative thought can be a can be
Speaker 5: a waterfall that can send you down the wrong path.
Speaker 5: So a lot of times I'm just sitting there and
Speaker 5: I'm talking to myself, you know, whether it's audibly or
Speaker 5: whether it's in my head talking to myself because I
Speaker 5: can because if I can feel that space, if I
Speaker 5: can feel that void, then the chances of any kind
Speaker 5: of negativity coming in or are slimming on.
Speaker 4: That fireflight, that fight or flight is so real, like
Speaker 4: like a human being, if you bring us down, like
Speaker 4: we're still caveman times, like we still are not evolved
Speaker 4: enough to understand like it's gonna be like there's no
Speaker 4: gray area, Like if there's a situation where it's high intensity,
Speaker 4: you're gonna go a journals and start rushing. It's either
Speaker 4: gonna tell you like I get the fuck out of
Speaker 4: here right to bow up. That's just that's crazy. How
Speaker 4: you think we've evolved so much, but we're really haven't.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
Speaker 4: It's still when you get put in those black and
Speaker 4: white situations, that's gonna be one way or the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what I've realized too, And as the older I get,
Speaker 5: the more I realize, I spent a lot of years
Speaker 5: fight or flight in in my training, right, you know,
Speaker 5: so I was I would get into a knockdown, drag
Speaker 5: out war number one in the sparring sessions number one.
Speaker 5: It's not good because I think a human being can
Speaker 5: only take so many shots to the head and channing
Speaker 5: before it's it's over right, you're.
Speaker 4: Mush and then you got that yeah, which is I mean,
Speaker 4: we'll get into the concussion protocol here as a stuff,
Speaker 4: go keep on fish with thoughts.
Speaker 5: So I used to train where it was fighter flight
Speaker 5: because I was a tough guys like I fought more
Speaker 5: with my balls than I did my brain, and I.
Speaker 1: Would just go, go go.
Speaker 5: But now the older I get, the more I realize
Speaker 5: drilling and being in more of a play fun sparring
Speaker 5: type of scenario where there is no perceived threat, where
Speaker 5: I'm actually cognitively thinking about what I'm doing, cognitively thinking
Speaker 5: about different tells, different footwork, different feints, different different movements
Speaker 5: to be able to actually break down the sparring sessions
Speaker 5: in front of me, rather than that fighter flight. Because
Speaker 5: I know I've already proven that I'm tough, but me
Speaker 5: being tough inside of a cage number one is not
Speaker 5: the best way for me to fight. I'd rather be
Speaker 5: a technical, beat them up, walk home, or walk out
Speaker 5: of the cage and collect paycheck. Case my wife, let's go.
Speaker 5: So I've kind of tailored my training more towards less
Speaker 5: fight or flight in the training because I know, if
Speaker 5: I get into a fight where it's like, okay, it's
Speaker 5: the fourth and fifth round I lost, I'm down around.
Speaker 5: I gotta win these next two rounds to win the fight,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I mean, I can sack up and go,
Speaker 5: so I know I can do that. So it's more
Speaker 5: about being technical.
Speaker 2: You were on the Joe Rogan podcast Shout Out Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: we want you on the bus one day you're on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was listening to your episode, Joe, and you're huge
Speaker 2: on visualization, which is stuff we've talked about.
Speaker 1: Before, and you're like, you go into really good detail.
Speaker 2: I go back and find his episode on the Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan episode, but he'll probably do it on here too.
Speaker 2: You just an awesome job explaining like how you got
Speaker 2: into visualizing and how, like I want to say, you
Speaker 2: lost like three in a row and you started to
Speaker 2: take on the mental training and the visualization aspect before
Speaker 2: that third loss, and then you had to you know,
Speaker 2: continue to believe in and keep going about it. Talk
Speaker 2: about the law of attraction, your visualization, how you got
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 1: And how you still used it to this day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, for me, I think I
Speaker 5: just took my I took my self image, my self worth,
Speaker 5: my confidence. I took it for granted, you know. And
Speaker 5: I think I think, just like anything, if you take
Speaker 5: if you take a certain muscle group for granted, you
Speaker 5: don't work on it, it's going to atrophy, it's going
Speaker 5: to it's going to to not be one of your
Speaker 5: strengths anymore. But yeah, so back to that, I lost
Speaker 5: three fights in it. I went six hundred and eighty
Speaker 5: eight days without a win. You know, so your book
Speaker 5: that you're gonna ride day six hundred eight days, man,
Speaker 5: and it's going to be, you know, a catchy title,
Speaker 5: And what is it behind it? I mean essentially, you know,
Speaker 5: I grew up wrestling, and if I lost a wrestling match,
Speaker 5: I knew it was only four days, three days, seven
Speaker 5: days or the same day or same day until I
Speaker 5: can get get it back, get back on the winning track.
Speaker 5: But when you got six months between the fight or
Speaker 5: you just you know, I just got to knock down,
Speaker 5: drag out war. I lost my title. I'm bleeding all
Speaker 5: over the place. I'll show you guys a picture like
Speaker 5: that picture.
Speaker 3: This is awesome.
Speaker 5: Just both eyes swollen. Shutup my lips. Are turned inside out, bleue,
Speaker 5: four or five sets of stitches, probably a concussion, and
Speaker 5: I'm limping back to my hotel room and for some reason,
Speaker 5: that self doubt just came in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, well, and that's what it was.
Speaker 5: I think so so so many times, especially in today's society,
Speaker 5: we hear what other people are saying and we try
Speaker 5: to block it out. But then one small thing happens
Speaker 5: and it triggers that that water all of negativity. Immediately,
Speaker 5: it was Michael, I knew you weren't as good as
Speaker 5: you thought you were. You know, I knew you weren't
Speaker 5: as good as they said you were. I knew they
Speaker 5: were right. I knew the haters were right. I knew
Speaker 5: this was right. I knew you were just a phony.
Speaker 5: You're a small guy from from a small town of Missouri.
Speaker 5: What are you doing, you know, making a bunch of
Speaker 5: money and making a bunch of money and being on
Speaker 5: the bright lights and being this like celebrity fighter guy.
Speaker 5: You're a phone, you know. And that's what happened. And
Speaker 5: then that led to another loss and another loss, and
Speaker 5: I saw sports psychologist and I started just I started
Speaker 5: to just actually look at my mental training like it
Speaker 5: was me going to the to the gym and sparring,
Speaker 5: or me going to the gym and lifting weights. It
Speaker 5: was a part of it. And so now, I mean
Speaker 5: the mental game between the years is now pretty much
Speaker 5: half of my training. You know. When I'm down in
Speaker 5: Florida by myself, I mean, I spend you know, an
Speaker 5: hour or two a day, whether it's reading, whether it's
Speaker 5: watching different fights or whatnot, or just sitting there in
Speaker 5: silence visualizing being able to be in the fight before
Speaker 5: I actually get to the fight. And I mean, I
Speaker 5: think that's that's one thing that's one of the greatest
Speaker 5: advices I will ever give to a young athlete or
Speaker 5: just even a young person in general. Don't take your confidence,
Speaker 5: your self image, your self worth, which is your greatest asset.
Speaker 5: Your self image is your greatest asset because a human
Speaker 5: being cannot consistently perform in a manner that is inconsistent
Speaker 5: with the way that he sees himself. So if you
Speaker 5: don't see yourself as a champion, you may be a
Speaker 5: champion for a second. You may be a champion for
Speaker 5: a week, a month, a year, but eventually it's going
Speaker 5: to catch up with you. If you don't truly, truly
Speaker 5: believe it in your heart of hearts. So yeah, for anybody,
Speaker 5: don't take your self image, your self worth, your your
Speaker 5: confidence in yourself for granted, because eventually it will wane
Speaker 5: if you're not working.
Speaker 1: On it, and you might not ever be a champion.
Speaker 2: Like we were on the one with Ben Newman and
Speaker 2: I was kind of talking about standard over feelings, and
Speaker 2: you're right in your standard. Like for me personally, it
Speaker 2: was like, what is will confident as a Pro Bowl linebacker?
Speaker 2: Like I haven't been a Pro Bowl linebacker, but there's
Speaker 2: no there's no reason I should believe anybody. Just because
Speaker 2: I'm not one doesn't mean I shouldn't be telling myself
Speaker 2: I am one and be working towards that every day.
Speaker 2: You should be not shooting for the you know, the stars,
Speaker 2: so to speak, all the time in your life and
Speaker 2: not talk to yourself that way because you want something
Speaker 2: so bad and you.
Speaker 1: Might not ever hit it.
Speaker 2: But the moments when say you're not hitting those plateaus
Speaker 2: and you're not hitting those results, you're saying you're still
Speaker 2: gonna use that same process and carry it back over
Speaker 2: to the next year and the next year, and then
Speaker 2: when you're doing something else in life. You carry it
Speaker 2: over to that thing, how are you the best in
Speaker 2: that world? And you might not ever fucking be the
Speaker 2: best in that world, but you should always aspire to
Speaker 2: be something that you are fearful when you're saying it
Speaker 2: to yourself, Like, Okay, like when I'm saying I'm a
Speaker 2: pro bowl.
Speaker 1: Is there a doubt in my mind that I ever
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be a pro bowler? Fuck? Yeah, there is, dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, will should you really tell yourself that you're
Speaker 2: gonna be a pro bowler when you know you're probably
Speaker 2: not gonna be? But hey that at that moment, don't
Speaker 2: fucking talk to yourself like that? Yeah, Like you just
Speaker 2: you gotta brainwash yourself, man. And I think that's awesome.
Speaker 5: It is true, and it's and it's just like anything,
Speaker 5: you you gotta wear it. You gotta wear it down,
Speaker 5: wear it down, wear it down, and eventually you wear
Speaker 5: down that little guy inside you. I mean, for me,
Speaker 5: it's a it's a small guy from a small town.
Speaker 5: Didn't have hair on my armpits. So I was twenty
Speaker 5: one years old, so I was like like one of
Speaker 5: the but like all of that, you know that that
Speaker 5: was my identity. That's who I was. And you know,
Speaker 5: that little guy is still in there, and I have
Speaker 5: to beat him over the head every single day because
Speaker 5: he creeps up in every single area in my life.
Speaker 5: If I want to be the best fighter in the
Speaker 5: best athlete, and the best father and the best husband,
Speaker 5: that that little guy is going to keep creeping up
Speaker 5: in there and you just have to wear him down,
Speaker 5: you know. So it's it's it's a constant repetition every
Speaker 5: day and waking up and just beating that little dude
Speaker 5: over the head.
Speaker 2: No doubt, because you you've you've been at the top,
Speaker 2: I mean three Pro Bowls, like you guys are at
Speaker 2: the ZOB Like I'm sure it happens still all the time.
Speaker 1: Dude. We were talking the other day about the mad rating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's huge.
Speaker 4: Is the thing that motivates me a lot. Like obviously
Speaker 4: my family helps me a lot. All those things you
Speaker 4: touched on definitely helps me. But a big thing is
Speaker 4: people that doubt you is such a It can be
Speaker 4: such a motivating factor if you if you let it,
Speaker 4: do it in the right way. Like when people say, oh,
Speaker 4: you're you're terrible at this terrible at that, like you
Speaker 4: still have that when you talk about that little guy
Speaker 4: in your head that's still in your head sometimes saying yeah,
Speaker 4: you're not that good of a left tackle, like you
Speaker 4: well Madden rated.
Speaker 3: You this where you're you're that? Like what about these
Speaker 3: and s gears?
Speaker 4: So you got beaten practice, You're probably can get beat
Speaker 4: in the game and all those different things. But as
Speaker 4: soon as someone says a similar thing that I do
Speaker 4: and do in my brain, I'm automatically that you have
Speaker 4: fuck that guy. They have no idea who the fuck
Speaker 4: I am, and I can like I can handle of it.
Speaker 4: And but like that is a huge thing that I
Speaker 4: had to learn as well. And it's it's so important
Speaker 4: because brains and muscles just like anything else. And to
Speaker 4: sit there and I have there's a book I read
Speaker 4: all the time. It's for the Four Agreements anybody. That's
Speaker 4: an amazing book I read every year for the past
Speaker 4: three years, and it just talks about like the four principle,
Speaker 4: four key principles, and one of those principles to be impeccable.
Speaker 3: With your work.
Speaker 4: Like everything you say you're gonna do, just do it
Speaker 4: and and and make sure you stay on top of
Speaker 4: those things, and the more you live a life that
Speaker 4: if you it's very simple, if you just live a
Speaker 4: life that you're not a shiite like you know, and
Speaker 4: people wouldn't be ashamed of you, even nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4: I don't have anxiety because I live my life exactly
Speaker 4: how I want to live my life, and I know
Speaker 4: exactly way I'm I'm the same person when I'm here
Speaker 4: as when I'm in the football field as when I
Speaker 4: go home. And it can be a lot for some
Speaker 4: people to sometimes as I'm.
Speaker 3: A high energy dude.
Speaker 4: But it's like you have to put the investment into
Speaker 4: first love yourself. That's it's the hardest thing to do
Speaker 4: and the easiest thing to say, because if I ask
Speaker 4: you who your top five favorite people in this world,
Speaker 4: the first person you should start with is always well, me,
Speaker 4: and then my wife, and then my daughter, and then
Speaker 4: but my best friend Nick, and then you know, and
Speaker 4: then well, but it's those, it's it's those, it's those
Speaker 4: key principles that you have to keep talking to yourself.
Speaker 4: And anytime it's funny to me, I watch people that
Speaker 4: are like that ship on themselves for humor, and it's like,
Speaker 4: that's good and I think that's that's not good. It's hilarious.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, if you keep saying something,
Speaker 4: whether it's a joke or others, that's the old saying
Speaker 4: is a truth into every joke.
Speaker 3: And so it's okay to do that sometimes.
Speaker 4: But it's more important than anything else, is the one
Speaker 4: love yourself, read constantly, and just do the right thing.
Speaker 4: Those are I mean, people talk about religion all the time,
Speaker 4: like you got like you know, if you go look
Speaker 4: at any different religion, whether it's Christian and Catholicism, you know, Buddhists,
Speaker 4: all that different stuff. The all the main principles is
Speaker 4: just be cool to people, be nice to people, treat
Speaker 4: people the way you want to be treated. Don't like
Speaker 4: kill people. That's probably a big one. Take care of
Speaker 4: your body, you know those things like you only want
Speaker 4: to put things in your body that are going to
Speaker 4: help you. That's why I don't go to McDonald's or Rby's.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't eat that shit even when I'm done playing.
Speaker 4: It's just not something you want to do. It's because
Speaker 4: that those are things that you put in your body
Speaker 4: and it's gonna it's gonna fuck with your brain as well.
Speaker 4: And it's still it's a crazy vicious circle that we,
Speaker 4: especially in America, get in because you know, America is
Speaker 4: such a such a bubble, and if you take ten
Speaker 4: steps outside of here. My wife's from Canada, I go
Speaker 4: up there, it's a completely different world. Things are slower,
Speaker 4: there's no there's a bunch of not a bunch of shit,
Speaker 4: and even the fast food there because it's not allowed.
Speaker 4: You know, you go down to South America, even Europe,
Speaker 4: like it's just a different world. But America lives in
Speaker 4: this crazy bubble that we think your shit doesn't stink,
Speaker 4: you're perfect. Everyone here is perfect and it's not. But
Speaker 4: it's like people are so masked by whether it's.
Speaker 3: Social media or you know, I'm gonna I'm an American
Speaker 3: and this, that and the other. It's it's really important
Speaker 3: to like, you got to look inward.
Speaker 4: And so anytime I like, he goes with life too,
Speaker 4: not just with sports, but if I have an issue
Speaker 4: with somebody, you know, if I'm in a bad place mentally,
Speaker 4: I'll go off on that person. But then I'll take
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes fifteen twenty minutes later, I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there and I'm like, well, fuck, I had nothing to
Speaker 4: do with him, Like it's all it's always yourself, yeah,
Speaker 4: because everything is controllable, you know, and it's just it
Speaker 4: becomes a vicious circle and I ram away too much.
Speaker 2: That well, I mean you're you're saying it all and
Speaker 2: you you you were saying it too. It's sitting with yourself,
Speaker 2: learning about yourself and also who you surround yourself with
Speaker 2: and what you surround yourself.
Speaker 3: That's a big one. That's a really big one.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes like I'll be around Taylor and the dude
Speaker 2: he's so intentional on all the things he does.
Speaker 1: Like he was speaking real.
Speaker 4: Quick, I hat a tink it always yeah, so to
Speaker 4: so a train and wouldn't be busting with the boys
Speaker 4: podcast that all train go on nice.
Speaker 2: So around Taylor and he's so intentional with stuff sometimes
Speaker 2: to where you know, he'll talk about I want to
Speaker 2: be the greatest left tackle to ever play, and I'll
Speaker 2: sit there, I'm like it'll kind of like reaffirm me
Speaker 2: that I should be thinking in ways that are remind
Speaker 2: me to think that way again or continue to repeat,
Speaker 2: like don't let this little guy say something, or let
Speaker 2: the good one on your shoulder on the other shoulder,
Speaker 2: talk to you that way that Taylor's out here talking
Speaker 2: and being confident all the time, because this dude is
Speaker 2: he's so confident to you know, he's very confident to where.
Speaker 1: It rubs off.
Speaker 2: But you rub you're around, you got to have a friend.
Speaker 5: You have to have a friend, like you have to.
Speaker 2: Like and he brings up books like four Agreements. He
Speaker 2: put me on that I think fourth four Agreements and
Speaker 2: fifth Agreement. I forget who write them, but we should.
Speaker 2: We should figure out who wrote those books. But those
Speaker 2: are those are awesome, But it is it's who you
Speaker 2: surround yourself with because again, you're gonna be in those
Speaker 2: times or you're in the gym and you're just talking
Speaker 2: to yourself, like you'll go from the best in the
Speaker 2: world to like, maybe I'm losing a step.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you know, people like.
Speaker 3: Peak like all that. Yeah, and people ask that, hey,
Speaker 3: are you still in shape?
Speaker 1: Like to play ball?
Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking to myself, Yeah, I'm in fucking
Speaker 2: phenomenal shape. And I don't know if I that's the
Speaker 2: answer they're wanting to hear. But I feel that way
Speaker 2: even though I'm fucking you know, twenty nine going on
Speaker 2: thirty and have been at this peak in my career,
Speaker 2: but I know, like you can find another peak given
Speaker 2: the opportunity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and it all goes back to reputation, right
Speaker 5: I What I realized is the most important thing to
Speaker 5: me in my entire life was my reputation. Not exactly
Speaker 5: what people thought of me, but knowing that people looking
Speaker 5: at me and say, man, that guy's reliable, that guy's
Speaker 5: a good dude. He does he tries to do the
Speaker 5: right things. He loves his family, he loves this, he
Speaker 5: loves that. And then more the more I realize, the
Speaker 5: older I get, the more I realize the greatest reputation
Speaker 5: is the one that I have with myself.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 5: So, just like what you were talking about, whether it
Speaker 5: be making the wrong decisions with what you're eating or
Speaker 5: making the wrong decisions with who you're surrounding yourself with,
Speaker 5: when you're doing those things that are kind of self
Speaker 5: they're self loathing without even really feeling like without without
Speaker 5: even really knowing it. You're doing things that you know
Speaker 5: you're not supposed to be doing right whenever you and
Speaker 5: it goes back to being a good person when you
Speaker 5: when you're when you do something that is outside of
Speaker 5: having good character. Whether you win or lose or gain
Speaker 5: from that experience, you're losing no matter what, because because
Speaker 5: you're actually doing something opposite of what the human soul
Speaker 5: was created to do. I think we were you know,
Speaker 5: the age ol debate of our humans inherently evil or
Speaker 5: they inherently good. So it can be debated, right, but
Speaker 5: I think I think we're all inherently good and we
Speaker 5: just get corrupted by this outside world, all people that
Speaker 5: we surround ourselves with. And that's that's always been the
Speaker 5: most important thing to me, who I surround myself with,
Speaker 5: and having trying to have a ridiculously almost annoyingly confident
Speaker 5: friend or the guy that you look at you're like,
Speaker 5: did I wish I had a quarter of that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: And like Ben Askern was that for me?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: I mean the dude was undefeated until you know, just
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago for a reason. I mean,
Speaker 5: the dude and he was actually one of the most
Speaker 5: untalented men I've ever been around in my entire life.
Speaker 5: Like I came in as a freshman, he was no no,
Speaker 5: what I'm saying physically, I mean, like, do you look
Speaker 5: at the dude, and he's actually making a gimmick out
Speaker 5: of it. He's like, he talks about his dad, bod
Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff. He does not look like
Speaker 5: a professional athlete competing at the highest level, yet between
Speaker 5: his ears, I've never met a more confident person. You
Speaker 5: have to have a person, a couple of those people
Speaker 5: around you, because they're just going to level you up,
Speaker 5: you know, no.
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Speaker 3: That guy's awesome.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: He's got he's got another book about love. It's The
Speaker 4: Love Agreement or something like that. It's all it's really
Speaker 4: good and it talks about the foe agreements.
Speaker 3: In that book. There's another book called the Uh it's the.
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Speaker 3: That's an amazing book.
Speaker 4: I'm reading a book right now called Ego is the
Speaker 4: Enemy because, like myself, I don't know how much George
Speaker 4: football or even the Tennessee Tians or anything like that,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: He was supposed to going to a game last year.
Speaker 2: I got him a silie passed and he said, hey, man,
Speaker 2: got your satellite pass. He takes back, thanks, and then
Speaker 2: gave me the middle finger.
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Speaker 4: I thought you nevers, but he made it for this season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get you. Sideline passed.
Speaker 4: You and Wilkinsons to each other. We got a oh
Speaker 4: my god, we gotta But anyway, it's all about confidence, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: What's all about building people up around with you?
Speaker 4: No, but going back, I'm reading a book right now
Speaker 4: called Ego is the Enemy And how much like the
Speaker 4: ego can really like debilitate you in life.
Speaker 3: And uh, it's kind of taught.
Speaker 4: Me a lot because I've always been very like vocal
Speaker 4: on the field, very loud, like I'm a big chirper
Speaker 4: I talk about the ship very ego. That's awesome, very
Speaker 4: very ego a lot, And I'm still going to do
Speaker 4: those things, but it's really important.
Speaker 3: Like sometimes, like you guys gotta still laughing about there, um.
Speaker 2: Trying to get serious now then they're still living at
Speaker 2: that joke was actually Marcos.
Speaker 1: Goddamn Marcos.
Speaker 3: Just take pictures and stuff fucking laughing.
Speaker 1: By the time this episode drops, I'm gonna fucking be somewhere.
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Speaker 3: I knew that.
Speaker 4: Seventy pounds you could be the best left card in
Speaker 4: the league. How's all you six two?
Speaker 3: Say your six to one, you'd be the best center
Speaker 3: in the league.
Speaker 1: Dude, dude, I'm smart as fuck. I could easily do
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: Yes, Senner, you gotta be really really smart to do Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, in all these books, guys, the links will be
Speaker 2: in the YouTube bio and shit like that, so you
Speaker 2: guys can find it.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: What you so you watch, guys like you watch? Was
Speaker 3: Connor I first UFC fight ever went to.
Speaker 4: For our first fight, I will say I ever went
Speaker 4: to was Connor McGregor versus ideas the first one. Oh, dude,
Speaker 4: I was the guy Richie and Coda in Vegas and
Speaker 4: we went in there. It was me, my wife who
Speaker 4: was my girlfriend at the time. We just met in
Speaker 4: Richie and he took us this fight and he was like,
Speaker 4: you got to look up this conn McGregor guy. He's
Speaker 4: in the same So I started watching him and he
Speaker 4: talks so much shit, so much he's getting it, just
Speaker 4: getting after its in dude's heads, knocking dudes out, going
Speaker 4: up wey classes, knocking dudes out, like it's just just
Speaker 4: killing people. And I watched an Adist fight. He lost
Speaker 4: an Adis fight. A year later, he fights in eight
Speaker 4: d's again in August and wins. It was like a
Speaker 4: split decision right at the end, and then he goes.
Speaker 4: He just keeps talking shit, and he he literally talks
Speaker 4: himself into this boxing match against Mayweather and fights him,
Speaker 4: doesn't stand a chance, but actually does a good job.
Speaker 3: Boxing for the first few rounds. Loses that.
Speaker 4: A year and a half later fights could be loses that,
Speaker 4: and it's like you start to look at him and
Speaker 4: the way he operates, and he literally used his mouth
Speaker 4: as a business like he talked himself into every single
Speaker 4: one of those things. And now he's got a whisky
Speaker 4: that I haven't tried yet.
Speaker 3: I've heard it's it's good. Okay. So I have two.
Speaker 4: Opinions now, one DC one of when one not so
Speaker 4: and he's he's like killing it. His whiskey is all
Speaker 4: over the place.
Speaker 3: It's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: So like, do you ever did you ever look at
Speaker 4: him or look at fighters like him and think to yourself, Hey,
Speaker 4: that might not be me. But from my business standpoint,
Speaker 4: I can you lay a lot of these things to
Speaker 4: either get clicks, my name, get out there more, get
Speaker 4: a big fight, maybe get a Bellator versus UFC championship
Speaker 4: fight or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's that that part of the business.
Speaker 5: And and the guy who kind of originated with Chill
Speaker 5: Soning back in the day, and the originator of at least,
Speaker 5: you know, talking themselves into fights that they shouldn't have
Speaker 5: been in, and Connor did. Connor's now done the best
Speaker 5: at it as far as lucrative, lucrative whise making as
Speaker 5: much money as possible and then spending off in the brands.
Speaker 5: But I think I have But I also know it's hard.
Speaker 5: It's hard when the message that you want to put
Speaker 5: out there is the opposite of that, you know, and
Speaker 5: that's that's where my cognitive dissonance came in, as far
Speaker 5: as not my values actually not lining up with the
Speaker 5: situation at hand. And I've done it a little bit.
Speaker 5: I've talked a little bit of trash, and it just
Speaker 5: it doesn't it doesn't come natural to me. It's not
Speaker 5: who I am. I'd rather, you know, I'd rather do.
Speaker 5: I'd rather be more positive or more inspirational than you know,
Speaker 5: kind of coming at people. And there's been other guys
Speaker 5: like a guy like Randy Gatour Randy gatur Will is
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer and he'll be known as one
Speaker 5: of the greatest fighters of all time, fought into his
Speaker 5: forties and he never talked trash. Gsp never talked trash.
Speaker 5: So there's the other guys who have who have done
Speaker 5: just as well and arguably could have made more money
Speaker 5: if it was right now in twenty nineteen than Connor did.
Speaker 5: But Connor also had Connor got taken care of because
Speaker 5: he had a whole country behind him. You know. I
Speaker 5: was just I was just at a party last night
Speaker 5: with a guy who DJs for Jason Alden. So he
Speaker 5: he does the DJ thing right before Jason Alden goes out,
Speaker 5: and we were talking about how he's in Vegas almost
Speaker 5: every weekend. He was there for two of the Connor fights,
Speaker 5: and the whole you probably noticed, the whole city turns
Speaker 5: out a little Ireland, right, you know, And they got
Speaker 5: the Tricolor flags all over everywhere. These people in Ireland,
Speaker 5: who probably didn't have much money, saved up for an
Speaker 5: entire year to get those those flights came over staying
Speaker 5: in the hostels like trying to like, you know, just
Speaker 5: to watch their their sportsman, you know. So he it
Speaker 5: was a perfect storm of everything. Everything he was doing,
Speaker 5: everything he was saying, and he was winning.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I always said, he's not as good as he thinks
Speaker 5: he is, but he's better than other people think he is.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of us said, oh, he's not
Speaker 5: that good, but he's better than we thought he was.
Speaker 5: But he's not quite as good as he thinks he is.
Speaker 5: But that mental game is no joke, man, that mental
Speaker 5: game he did have people broken before they even stepped
Speaker 5: into the cage of them.
Speaker 4: So you don't you don't think he's like the best,
Speaker 4: like one of the best ever to do it, like
Speaker 4: do you think if he, if he took the time,
Speaker 4: didn't just from a talent perspective, right South Paul, everything
Speaker 4: I hear is this guy's got this unique skill set,
Speaker 4: the way he moves his body and all that. Do
Speaker 4: you think if he just focused on the nuts and
Speaker 4: bolt of being a UFC fighter, MMA fighter, then branding
Speaker 4: and focusing on other stuff, do you think it could
Speaker 4: have gone a different way where you we be have
Speaker 4: a different conversation.
Speaker 3: If you're saying, yeah, maybe he is one of the
Speaker 3: best of all time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean I think that's I think I
Speaker 5: think any of us can do that, though I mean
Speaker 5: any of us. I mean you have to have a
Speaker 5: certain level of skill level, level of talent, level of ability.
Speaker 5: But I mean him from his his physical attributes. Yes,
Speaker 5: he has a long, tall southpaw. For the for the
Speaker 5: for the weight class, the one fifty five, he was
Speaker 5: at one forty five before and he's got up to
Speaker 5: one seventy, and he went up to one seventy by
Speaker 5: the way, and fought another one fifty five or so.
Speaker 5: They went up a weight class, but they were both
Speaker 5: one fifty five or so. They essentially fought the same guy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he would have fought at one fifty five, so because
Speaker 5: that was a big thing, and they did a great
Speaker 5: job market at it, you know, like going up a
Speaker 5: weight class, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But I mean what I will say is he has
Speaker 5: it because really, like we just talked about, ninety percent
Speaker 5: of being the greatest in the world is between the ears,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, when it comes to physical attributes,
Speaker 5: he's got enough of it. When it comes to the power,
Speaker 5: he's definitely got enough of that. And when it comes
Speaker 5: to the confidence, he's definitely got that in droves. I
Speaker 5: think he just he ran into kabeb Kabebe has never
Speaker 5: lost could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like and he literally was born in Chernobyl.
Speaker 3: You knew that. No, in the radio he was he's
Speaker 3: all fucked.
Speaker 5: He's uh yeah, I mean he's he's as close to
Speaker 5: unstoppable as as you have seen.
Speaker 3: And we will make a couple unstoppable. He's just so
Speaker 3: locked in.
Speaker 5: Well, he just it's there's a there's a certain rule
Speaker 5: set that we play by, and it's striking and it's
Speaker 5: scrappling and and there's a mixture of everything, and there's
Speaker 5: a there's a time clock and and and those a
Speaker 5: lot of amount of times. He doesn't finish a lot
Speaker 5: of guys. He really finishes very few of his fights.
Speaker 5: But he's able to pick guys up, put him down,
Speaker 5: be on top of him, hold a wrist, and just
Speaker 5: punch him for for twenty twenty five minutes, fifteen minutes,
Speaker 5: for as long as he wants to. He's probably gonna
Speaker 5: do the same thing to Dustin Pooria here in September
Speaker 5: and Abu Dhabi he did it. And his you know,
Speaker 5: his last his last fight to Connor, the fight before
Speaker 5: the fight before that. You know, he we saw some
Speaker 5: chinks in his armor against Ala Aquinta, but that was
Speaker 5: a crazy fight where he got switched the night before,
Speaker 5: so I think he wasn't mentally there. But the sport,
Speaker 5: it's just funny because when you really break the sport
Speaker 5: down into just the nuts and bolts of it, it's
Speaker 5: it's a very it's a very simplistic sport. And if
Speaker 5: you can become really good at a certain skill set
Speaker 5: that guys that even when guys prepare for it, they
Speaker 5: can't stop it, You're you're going to be successful. And
Speaker 5: that's what he's done, you know, barring barring any knockouts
Speaker 5: or you know, like me, the flash, knockout, knock down,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. That kind of stuff happens,
Speaker 5: or crazy split decisions where the refs, you know, the
Speaker 5: refs called the fight the other way. So it's just
Speaker 5: a crazy sport he's for him to go in the
Speaker 5: feed it for as long as he has is nothing
Speaker 5: short of amazing. So I would never take anything away
Speaker 5: from him. He's just very good at grappling, wrestling and
Speaker 5: punch of people.
Speaker 3: You're to call the malls that we want you to fight.
Speaker 1: I always take it.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think, well, I think that's the greatest
Speaker 5: fight for me because I think I can out wrestle him.
Speaker 5: I also think I also think I have better cardio
Speaker 5: than him. I also think he's but it's hard for me.
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to go there because I've said
Speaker 5: I I can be, could be before, But then people say,
Speaker 5: well they why don't you come prove it in the
Speaker 5: UFC And it's like, Okay, well, I don't want to
Speaker 5: take a pay cut to go fight could be. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't want to have all this all this risk
Speaker 4: and what if bellatur and UFC got together. Have they
Speaker 4: ever have they ever talked about joining, not joining, but
Speaker 4: maybe like doing a dual fight, like here our guy
Speaker 4: versus your guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they kind of each other.
Speaker 3: I don't hate each other. It's probably it's a business.
Speaker 5: It's a business.
Speaker 4: And any business like if i'm you know, your Apple
Speaker 4: and Microsoft or something like that or whatever, it's like
Speaker 4: it's kind of yeah, you're you're your competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5: Well it well number one, I will say it is
Speaker 5: a possibility because if it makes money, it makes sense.
Speaker 5: And in this in this industry, right in any industry,
Speaker 5: if if if they knew they could make a billion
Speaker 5: dollars on a pay per view because they have all
Speaker 5: the fight, all the best fighters on the fit on
Speaker 5: the same card, they would probably do it. But the
Speaker 5: problem is there's there's a lot of risk involved for
Speaker 5: the UFC. If if I came over and beat Matt
Speaker 5: to meat kabib Or, and then if our one seventy
Speaker 5: pounder came over and beat the ones pound and then
Speaker 5: Bellotour wins a couple of those fights, the UFC all
Speaker 5: of a sudden loses their little notch of the greatest organization.
Speaker 5: With the greatest fighters and.
Speaker 4: Bellotour the UFC have the money to be like, hey,
Speaker 4: come come fight for us and money they do, but
Speaker 4: they do, but they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't need to. And that's and that's the thing
Speaker 5: I mean. And and I'm and I'm I'm self aware
Speaker 5: enough to realize I'm not I'm not a huge draw either.
Speaker 5: There's guys, there's guys that have been in the UFC
Speaker 5: who have barely cracked the top ten who may have
Speaker 5: a bigger name than me in that UFC crowd and
Speaker 5: the bigger mainstream crowd.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: The amount of guys that have been in the UFC
Speaker 5: and and gotten great followings and and in great respect
Speaker 5: in the sport, but are very very subpar fighters is
Speaker 5: just mind blowing just because they fought in the UFC
Speaker 5: under the UFC banner. But it's it's it's the nature
Speaker 5: of our sport. In ten years from now, it will
Speaker 5: be I think it'll be a lot different. I think
Speaker 5: there'll be other organizations like Bellotour coming in. One FC
Speaker 5: is now growing, you know, there's gonna be another organization
Speaker 5: come in with probably a big a lot of money,
Speaker 5: a lot of backing, and uh, it's going to just
Speaker 5: keep keep happening. And competition is always good. You know,
Speaker 5: competition is.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fighters out there too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot. I mean there's enough fighters to
Speaker 5: to be you know, you got Pro Fight League. Pro
Speaker 5: Fight League is. You know, they have a million dollar tournament.
Speaker 5: If you win, like you know, six fights or whatever,
Speaker 5: you get a million dollars or however that works. But
Speaker 5: you know they're doing you know they're doing they're doing
Speaker 5: their thing.
Speaker 2: Does Beltre still do that tournament style that you're talking
Speaker 2: about the three fights in three months and ship like that.
Speaker 5: They do a tournament, but now it's more like three
Speaker 5: fights over a year. God, which is which is still cool?
Speaker 5: Remember one yeah no weight classes. Yeah, your guys are
Speaker 5: going in there wearing GE's no no weight classes.
Speaker 2: Huge tournament and it was all done but in a
Speaker 2: in in like a weekend, right yeah, well in one night.
Speaker 5: They used to have a fight a couple of times
Speaker 5: in one night too, I mean yeah, it's it's crazy, man. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So they did it. They did it in Belotour a
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. Or it was a four man
Speaker 5: tournament two fights in two nights or to you know,
Speaker 5: each guy fought two fights and two nights. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: who knows. I mean, it's the entertainment business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get your ass knocked up a little
Speaker 3: bit all that. What's okay? You get knocked out? What's
Speaker 3: what's a concussion protocol for you guys in the UFC
Speaker 3: or not?
Speaker 4: So I keep saying UFC, I'm sorry, that's just mixed
Speaker 4: martial arts next martial mm A.
Speaker 5: You know, trust me, trust me, Like five years ago,
Speaker 5: it would it would have bothered me. But I know
Speaker 5: that I've made the right decision, you know, Like that's
Speaker 5: that's the thing. I know. I know that I've made
Speaker 5: the right decision.
Speaker 4: The UFC is just a lack of the how much intelligence,
Speaker 4: like I educated myself, but also you know, fight exactly
Speaker 4: but any of that stuff.
Speaker 5: But also kudos to the uf C for branding the
Speaker 5: u f C to make people think, because people say,
Speaker 5: what's is is that? Like uf is that like UFC?
Speaker 3: Is it like m m A?
Speaker 5: And I'm like it is m m A. You know,
Speaker 5: just like you guys play football in the NFL, I
Speaker 5: fight mixed martial art. It's in bellot or in UFC.
Speaker 5: What was your question again?
Speaker 2: It was like it's like it's like cushion, it's like
Speaker 2: cleanexxally Q tip exactly.
Speaker 1: Kleenex is like the best branding company of all time,
Speaker 1: greatest look it.
Speaker 5: Up concussion protocol. So so we always get so so
Speaker 5: bellotoor UFC, these fight promotions don't actually govern themselves. They
Speaker 5: are governed by the boxing commissions. So my last fight
Speaker 5: was the Illinois State Athletic Commission or Boxing commission, so
Speaker 5: they will suspend you. So depending on no matter what,
Speaker 5: if you win your fight, you're going to get a
Speaker 5: seven day or probably a fourteen day suspension that says
Speaker 5: you can't fight in fourteen days, which you shouldn't be anyway.
Speaker 5: But when you lose a fight, it's pretty much like
Speaker 5: an automatic thirty day. If if it's a TKO loss
Speaker 5: or something like that, it's an automatic sixty day, no contact,
Speaker 5: no nothing, which is it's only two months. I mean
Speaker 5: you should definitely be taking two months off. If you
Speaker 5: get knocked out or TKOT or whatnot.
Speaker 3: You really exercise or anything during that No, you're allowed to.
Speaker 5: You just you just cannot get a it's SAI like
Speaker 5: you can't be licensed in any other state. So I
Speaker 5: could go spar the next day. If I wanted to,
Speaker 5: I can go get in a stryified if I wanted to,
Speaker 5: I can go do whatever I wanted to. But until
Speaker 5: that sixty days suspension is lifted, I can't get another
Speaker 5: I can't go to Nevada and get a boxing license
Speaker 5: to box or or fight because because I am currently suspended.
Speaker 5: Just the same thing with like, if I failed a
Speaker 5: drug test, that would be suspended for two years under
Speaker 5: the you know whatever sanction, and I wouldn't be able
Speaker 5: to get a sanction anywhere else in any other state,
Speaker 5: or you know, flagrantly whenever it could be jumped out
Speaker 5: of the cage and drop kick that guy during the
Speaker 5: CONIFI Like he got suspended, so he Nevada suspended his
Speaker 5: license for X amount of days, he wasn't able to
Speaker 5: get another license in any other state to compete until
Speaker 5: that suspension was lifted.
Speaker 3: Damn, that's crazy shit.
Speaker 1: You thought about starting a podcast on your own?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm a book, are you have you started
Speaker 2: on the book six hundred and eighty eight days now?
Speaker 5: I mean I've I've gotten a little journal stuff here.
Speaker 5: I mean I journal a lot and kind of write
Speaker 5: some stuff down because I mean, one of the biggest
Speaker 5: things is just forgetting.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The great thing is I got I got a brother
Speaker 5: who who like my brother and I live together for years.
Speaker 5: Like he can recall memories, remember that time, this and
Speaker 5: that and the other thing, and I can ask no question.
Speaker 5: He'll go off on a tangent. So I think he
Speaker 5: will be my ghost writer, or at least my ghost
Speaker 5: remember of all this stuff. Right yeah, I mean a book.
Speaker 5: I would love to do, a podcast. I'd love to
Speaker 5: do some I'd love to do online training. I'd actually
Speaker 5: love to be I'd love to be the guy who
Speaker 5: who teaches or informs the young mixed martial arts fighters.
Speaker 5: Because just like the NFL, now there was five year
Speaker 5: old kis who want to be in the NFL day someday.
Speaker 5: Now there's five year old kids, six year old kids
Speaker 5: and their parents who want to see their kid come
Speaker 5: up and become mixed martial artists. Right right, These these
Speaker 5: kids need guidance, they need they need a way to go.
Speaker 5: How do you get a manager, How do you get sponsors?
Speaker 5: How do you how do you decide to take how
Speaker 5: do you choose between organizations? How do you choose the
Speaker 5: right gym? How do you choose the right coach, how
Speaker 5: do you do this?
Speaker 1: How do you do that?
Speaker 5: And just educating kids and just be able to I know,
Speaker 5: I've been given a lot of gifts, so I want
Speaker 5: to be able to.
Speaker 1: To pass that.
Speaker 5: BA. Yeah. Yeah, you have your own gym right Yeahshville
Speaker 5: here in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do we should go? We should go train
Speaker 1: there one day.
Speaker 3: What's name of the gym?
Speaker 5: Training camp? Training camp? So? Yeah, so we we do
Speaker 5: ten thousand square foot facility. We're right right down the
Speaker 5: road from you guys stadium on the right by the
Speaker 5: go karts and all that on David story. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: we ten thousand square feet. We have thirty five hundred
Speaker 5: square foots a roller rubber turf for group fitness and
Speaker 5: personal training that we have thirty five hundred square foot
Speaker 5: of mats for boxing, boxing, grappling, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: What's that called training camp in Nashville?
Speaker 1: Right about? What about recovery?
Speaker 5: Recovery? Man? I mean, now that I'm on the other
Speaker 5: side of thirty, recovery is so important. I'm on my
Speaker 5: roller every day. I Uh, I get bodywork every day. Uh.
Speaker 5: Supplementation when it comes to you know. So every day
Speaker 5: I'm I'm waking up and I'm drinking. I'm drinking uh
Speaker 5: Cover three, which is a brain supplement for my brain.
Speaker 5: It's all the all the anti inflammatories, antioxidants, omega's d
Speaker 5: p A, e h A, all that stuff you need
Speaker 5: for your rain for y'all that are getting hit and
Speaker 5: met me as well, b C. As I saw one
Speaker 5: protein and then just a just a ton of downtime
Speaker 5: and realizing that if I can work smarter rather than
Speaker 5: harder all the time, because I mean we I get
Speaker 5: beat up just like you guys. You guys are going
Speaker 5: to fight for eight seconds every single play, right, So
Speaker 5: just just recovering now that I'm on this side of thirty.
Speaker 1: What what else are there? Anything else do you do?
Speaker 1: Like red light therapy or a cryo or anything like that.
Speaker 5: I have a I have an infrared sauna that I've
Speaker 5: been that I like. Yeah, my wife got me that
Speaker 5: for U for my birthday. So that's cool. We got
Speaker 5: that in my basement, so I'll do that. I'm working
Speaker 5: on getting a cold tub because I like like cold tub.
Speaker 4: Cold tubs, red do you mean like real start trying it?
Speaker 4: Plumbing down and everything to have one like in your house.
Speaker 5: As far as the cold cold tub, I would love
Speaker 5: to do that. I think I'll probably just get a
Speaker 5: deep freezer or like one of those.
Speaker 3: I wanted to trying to supply company. Get one of
Speaker 3: those tubs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get a big one.
Speaker 3: And sixty bucks. That's really.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is a legit to like a trough.
Speaker 4: You got nice and you just but I still I
Speaker 4: fll up with water the gas station, get like five.
Speaker 3: Bags of ice, man, put it in there. I go ahead.
Speaker 4: I had infer its on up my place too. Had
Speaker 4: a concept to rower, So I'll try to hit the rower.
Speaker 4: You have to hit the sauna and then go after.
Speaker 2: And see how many it how many grams of like
Speaker 2: fish oil or BCA's.
Speaker 1: Are you super into that? Are you kind of just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not into like the actual you know, milligrams
Speaker 5: of this. I mean one thing. I actually just when
Speaker 5: I was at the Damatized headquarters, I sat down with
Speaker 5: the chief science officer and he was talking about the
Speaker 5: the RDA of all of these different supplements, which is
Speaker 5: recommended daily allowance or whatever. It's all very very very low.
Speaker 5: It's essentially when we read you know when we read
Speaker 5: you know, the minimums of what we should be taking
Speaker 5: of all these supplements, it's just enough to to not
Speaker 5: get like a exactly. So I pretty much double everything.
Speaker 5: I mean, they got kril oil in the morning, you
Speaker 5: bick one all co q ten uh, carnetine? Do you ribos?
Speaker 5: A lot of that stuff has to just do with
Speaker 5: the brain getting the body going. I hired a coach
Speaker 5: out of California. Yeah, he's called the Training Lab. It's
Speaker 5: a Sam Calavita. He's a he's a science teacher by
Speaker 5: by trade, or no, sorry, a math teacher. He's a
Speaker 5: mathematician by by that's his profession. But he's just a
Speaker 5: he's a big time endurance athlete coach. So he does
Speaker 5: iron Man's himself. So, I mean, the older I get
Speaker 5: trying to break the body down to a cellular molecular
Speaker 5: level and try to realize that if you treat the
Speaker 5: body the way that it was it was designed, that
Speaker 5: it will give you much much more, you know, And
Speaker 5: if I can just get one extra year of fighting,
Speaker 5: that's a nice chunk of change for my family. So
Speaker 5: being able to prolong that as much as possible.
Speaker 4: What do you think about doctors saying, like I've heard,
Speaker 4: I've had doctors tell me that, oh, the only you
Speaker 4: don't need to take supplements, what you need to do
Speaker 4: is as much rest as possible and eat right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's rubbish. I think, no offense the doctors,
Speaker 5: but I think I I don't even listen to doctors
Speaker 5: much these days. Like if if I got an orthopedic problem,
Speaker 5: I will listen to a doctor. If I gotta, if
Speaker 5: I have like a cardiac problem, if I have a
Speaker 5: heart of problem, I'm listening to a doctor.
Speaker 3: But it has to be a very specific but general
Speaker 3: general doctor.
Speaker 5: Yeah but sorry, yeah, mds. And it's just it's just
Speaker 5: I mean, my wife will tell you too. She she
Speaker 5: took the medical route. She was a physician assistant, so
Speaker 5: like she she crushes it in the e er so
Speaker 5: we're savannahbielt Er and all that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 5: she's but she even understands that the way that they
Speaker 5: are trained, it's just it's just to treat the symptoms
Speaker 5: and not make them make people more healthy human beings,
Speaker 5: not the calls. Not get to the room of everything.
Speaker 5: So I mean I'm more of like a I mean,
Speaker 5: some people can get out there and kind of weird
Speaker 5: but homeopathic kind of doctors, like the the Eastern type
Speaker 5: of medicine stuff, the roots, the you know, the Yeah,
Speaker 5: so that's what that's what I take every morning. It's
Speaker 5: it's actually a company based out of California, and it's
Speaker 5: got kirk Human trans trans res veratal alpha GPC all
Speaker 5: these anti and it's an anti inflammatories, especially for the brain,
Speaker 5: just to increase the neuroplasticity.
Speaker 4: Flamatory is the biggest thing, right, like especially joint elf
Speaker 4: and his biggest cancer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, crazy freaking lots and lots of milligrams and turmeric
Speaker 5: or cuman and all that kind of stuff which never
Speaker 5: too much.
Speaker 1: Right you in there.
Speaker 5: I mean if you if you pee out out, you
Speaker 5: pee it out, you pee it out, who cares at
Speaker 5: least at least you you put a buffalo. It's like
Speaker 5: my pee is orange.
Speaker 3: Cuman pills.
Speaker 4: I take every day, man, And if I'm wearing like
Speaker 4: a white pair of shorts, I'll I'll take you. I'll
Speaker 4: wipe my hands and then halfway the dead be looking like,
Speaker 4: you know, I have orange spots on my pants.
Speaker 3: You know it's to washes.
Speaker 5: I know you have you ever like got the extra
Speaker 5: root and cut it up and like put it in
Speaker 5: either so you can you can buy the room the.
Speaker 3: Whole foods, right, the turmeric root itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'll get them and I juice them. I have
Speaker 5: like a certain juice RECIPI U. I like. I like
Speaker 5: two American turmerican ginger.
Speaker 3: It's acquired, kind of weird.
Speaker 5: I just take them and just chew on them. No,
Speaker 5: but you know, and if you cut if you cut
Speaker 5: them up, you get that orange on your hands and
Speaker 5: then he doesn't get set there for twenty four hours.
Speaker 5: If when a doctor says that, or people say that
Speaker 5: because it's easy to say, because it's easy to shame people.
Speaker 5: You should be eating better and you don't need supplements.
Speaker 5: It's easy to do that. But it's just not it's
Speaker 5: not very practical, right, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 5: especially with what we do, we need way more protein
Speaker 5: than is recommended.
Speaker 4: Even something as simple as vitamin D. Like, Okay, you
Speaker 4: live in Alaska, Okay, well like six months out of
Speaker 4: the year. It doesn't even sound sunlight like you're gonna
Speaker 4: need some D.
Speaker 3: All right, you live in Nashville. Yeah, you're here. You're
Speaker 3: a sick o broll. Yeah, I said, I said, you're
Speaker 3: gonna need that.
Speaker 1: In the lines of work.
Speaker 2: We do too for vitamin D four players. You know,
Speaker 2: you're banging for what six months out of the year,
Speaker 2: you have m m A.
Speaker 1: Guys almost did it, almost swung on it.
Speaker 3: You know, Guys that are.
Speaker 2: Physically exerting themselves all the time, they get deficient and
Speaker 2: vitamin D. I want to say, in the NFL, you're like,
Speaker 2: I think even the national ranking two, like seventy to
Speaker 2: eighty percent of all people are vitamin D deficient. And like,
Speaker 2: when I consult with my guy, he puts me on
Speaker 2: like ten thousand to twenty thousand VYUD if I'm deficient
Speaker 2: in it until I get back to that next blood
Speaker 2: test and I'm good, then I'll go back down to
Speaker 2: like five or ten. But yeah, I'm I feel the
Speaker 2: same way, like doubling shit and doing stuff where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I thought only on the back of the thing and
Speaker 2: so to do this, And they're like, oh, that's bullshit. Will, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how I talk. You're like, oh, that's bullshit, don't
Speaker 2: listen to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's true. I mean, And that's what's great
Speaker 5: is in twenty nineteen, you know this day and age,
Speaker 5: there's no reason to not seek out all of this information.
Speaker 5: Seek out these these type of doctors. Seek out. Don't
Speaker 5: just read what the FDA puts on the back of
Speaker 5: bottles and read all that that stuff, because yet it's
Speaker 5: not enough for optimizing human performance. You know, and you
Speaker 5: guys have access to to a lot of great people.
Speaker 5: Everybody has access to a lot of great people. And
Speaker 5: we all have access to a lot of great the.
Speaker 3: World wide Web.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to be able to you know, and some of
Speaker 5: the stuff you read is going to be bs. But
Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff if you deep, if you
Speaker 5: dig deep.
Speaker 1: Understand why.
Speaker 2: And we're not telling you guys to go to your
Speaker 2: cathins right now and just start double trip everything with
Speaker 2: your doctor.
Speaker 5: That's the thing I'm also saying, listen to your doctor.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know I can't, I'm as but.
Speaker 5: That's say you know, I just just because I don't
Speaker 5: listen to it doesn't means give you they put bullshit
Speaker 5: in your system, give you pills and all this, and
Speaker 5: it hurts here, Okay, take a viking in and all that.
Speaker 3: It's like the same yeah, it goes yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's the same thing as you know, the
Speaker 5: treating treating the symptom instead of the actual root problem.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's uh, and a lot of it has
Speaker 5: to do with diet. When you go when you went
Speaker 5: back to like why America is failing at health, it's
Speaker 5: because we have so many options and so many horrible options,
Speaker 5: and the fact that that we can like they're they're
Speaker 5: able to pump gluten and all these outside agents into
Speaker 5: everything that we're eating is is kind of a tragedy.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's all about educating yourself and trying to
Speaker 5: once again continue to surround yourself with the right people
Speaker 5: who know what they're talking about. Doubt, surround yourself with
Speaker 5: people who help you make the right decisions, no doubt.
Speaker 1: We gotta do run an hour and eight. Where can
Speaker 1: people Where can people find you? On the web? Anything?
Speaker 5: Social media? I have Michael Chandler dot com is a website.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing a tune with it right now. Instagram
Speaker 5: is where I do a lot of my speaking to people,
Speaker 5: my workouts, all that kind of stuff at Mike Chandler
Speaker 5: m m A. So yeah, so just uh, that's why
Speaker 5: that's where I do a lot of my stuff and
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff coming soon, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, until you do your podcast, you're You're always more
Speaker 1: than welcome to come. This is great.
Speaker 5: Come sit on the bus, d dude. I'm just sit
Speaker 5: on the bus and watch the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Whatever fighters want to be, whatever fighters are like,
Speaker 1: let's just go wrap on the bus man.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'll I'll do that. I want to win
Speaker 5: the next show. People are coming in town for dude.
Speaker 1: Are you connected to shap Brendon Shaw? I am.
Speaker 5: I just haven't been out to l A to do
Speaker 5: his show yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming out. He'll be out here next weekend
Speaker 2: for uh Zany's Comedy Club. He's gonna do some stand up. Well,
Speaker 2: he should get on the bus, That's what I'm saying
Speaker 2: now a video thinking that because the boy you're gonna
Speaker 2: he'll be in training camp.
Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere yet. I'm still waiting on a call,
Speaker 1: patiently waiting. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: But yo, we could run this thing, dude, there you
Speaker 2: co host. It might be an easier way for it
Speaker 2: for him to be comfortably. Want to come on, dude,
Speaker 2: that could be cool. We can maybe rocking a app.
Speaker 3: We can rock and we have a rocking app.
Speaker 5: Shoot, I got a dude, I got a bachelor party
Speaker 5: next weekend.
Speaker 1: I think you do. So you'll be out of town.
Speaker 5: No, I'll be in town.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's gonna be here in Nashville. Shoot, maybe you
Speaker 2: get up, will recover one day. You're recover in the morning.
Speaker 1: Day. Boys, I gotta fail out for two hours. Drive
Speaker 1: down the road. Maybe we can.
Speaker 2: Figure something out. But no, it's it's here. Though, it's here,
Speaker 2: he's here. I think it's August first through third. I
Speaker 2: kind of want to just go see this. I kind
Speaker 2: of want to just go see a stand up too.
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of he's good and he's he
Speaker 5: just started his his podcast with the bon Yeah.
Speaker 1: Pretty, he's got a fighter and the kid and this
Speaker 1: king and the sting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he'll be out here. I think August first through thirds.
Speaker 5: So well, we should all send him a message.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all right out anything else.
Speaker 5: He needs to be on the bus.
Speaker 1: He does need to be on the bus with the
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Speaker 1: buy some merch.
Speaker 2: We got our neon signs, we got our shirts, we
Speaker 2: got hats by the time this comes out, hats probably
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Speaker 1: Go go buy stuff. Support the boys. Get on this
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Speaker 5: Get you guys should do your own Vitamin D supplement A.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys,