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Speaker 1: What's happen everybody? Welcome to Money edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: John Harris, your host footblaying on the sideline reporter taking

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Speaker 1: up to Money Night football Birds and Birds, Falcons the

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Speaker 1: Eagles at the Lincoln Philadelphia. We'll have it for you

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Speaker 1: right here on Sports Radio six ten. But I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you being with me this evening. Following the Texans nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirteen win over the Chicago Bears. That's two and zero

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Speaker 1: on the season for the first time since twenty sixteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, we went.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday night to take on the New England.

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Speaker 1: Patriots and got absolutely pummeled that night by the Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Brissette led Patriots. So hopefully that same thing doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: against a team the Texans have never beaten, the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings and gotta go up there to do it. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough battle against John Gunnar Blake Cashman,

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Speaker 1: former Texans who we love. Those are two of my

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Speaker 1: favorite players that the Texans have had. Man, they were

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Speaker 1: just awesome, awesome dudes. But hopefully they lose on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that more this week, but let's celebrate

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Speaker 1: this win to a degree and talk with our guy

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Speaker 1: Andre where we have plenty to talk about and start

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 3: Nico Collins and the micd up from the Colts game

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Speaker 3: talked about weight room. Well he showed it there, Mark

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Speaker 3: vandermir John Harris and joining us right now. Andre where

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Speaker 3: on the line and Dre He's strong, he's good, great hands.

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Speaker 3: He is becoming one of the very best in the

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Speaker 3: league right before our eyes.

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Speaker 4: He's a weapon, and he has learned how to take

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Speaker 4: care of his body.

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Speaker 5: He's become a pro.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why we're starting to see him

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Speaker 4: emerge as exactly that Mark one of the best in

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Speaker 4: the NFL.

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Speaker 5: We thought, hey, it could be anybody's week. Of the

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Speaker 5: three receivers, they're gonna spread it around. Sometimes a guy.

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Speaker 4: Just knows how to present himself and and uh and

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Speaker 4: make himself available to the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And that's what Nico's doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it was on a touchdown. Was I remember what

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Speaker 1: the flag was castled the flight right away and I thought, man,

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Speaker 1: what the what's the fly Tyrek Stevenson hit him right

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Speaker 1: in the face again, like on that play, he hit

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Speaker 1: him right in a face and and Nico just gain

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Speaker 1: just kind of sloughed it off, took it and took

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Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson hit the hits, which was really really fun

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Speaker 1: to watch.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts on CJ last night.

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Speaker 1: Dre Mark and I in the first segment gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about defense and talking.

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Speaker 7: About a lot of things, but we didn't talk about CJ.

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Speaker 7: Pretty solid night.

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Speaker 1: Two sixty didn't throw an interception, touchdown and Nico the

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Speaker 1: only touchdown the Texans scored all night. Your thoughts about

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Speaker 1: how CJ played last night overall, I.

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Speaker 4: Played played well last night, or played like CJ would

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Speaker 4: play against a tough defense, which you have to realize

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Speaker 4: that the Bears may not be a good overall team and

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Speaker 4: all three phases, but defensively they've got that side of

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Speaker 4: the ball pretty much taken care of.

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Speaker 5: They made it tough to run the football last night.

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Speaker 5: But job obviously directly affects c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud, So when you don't have a running game and

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Speaker 4: they know you're gonna throw it, they can pen their

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Speaker 4: ears back.

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Speaker 5: He sacked a couple of times a time or two,

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Speaker 5: but just think, I thought a solid night.

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Speaker 4: When you take care of the football the way he does, man,

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Speaker 4: it gives you a chance to win every time. What

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Speaker 4: Mark and I were talking about out throughout the game,

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Speaker 4: just get the ball, pass the fifty yard line and

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Speaker 4: Kym he's gonna you got points because he can hit

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Speaker 4: just about anything right now, So he's been solid.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dre, I look at what happened with the run

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Speaker 3: game last night, and I really don't know what to think.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bears are obviously very good on defense.

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Speaker 3: We saw it last year, you're seeing it this year.

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Speaker 3: The way they handled the Titans last week. Now, we're

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Speaker 3: really young in the season. But you had one really

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Speaker 3: good ground game, and hey, the Packers had a really

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Speaker 3: good ground game on the team. You had a good

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Speaker 3: ground game against last week and the Colts as they

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Speaker 3: ran for even more yards against Indy at home. But

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Speaker 3: what do you make of the run game. What's going

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Speaker 3: to take to get better? I know you had no

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Speaker 3: Pierce last night, but you had Joe Mixon for the

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Speaker 7: Yards were tough to come by.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they were, and it was It's what we were

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Speaker 4: talking about at the top of the show. When you

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Speaker 4: take your guy like two scrugs out and we expect

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Speaker 4: the same result because they're just plugging in one. Then

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Speaker 4: that disrupts the chemistry of the five guys that have

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Speaker 4: worked together for a while a good portion of camp

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Speaker 4: early in the season. Last week, Uh, you removed that

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Speaker 4: one component. It makes it tough because now the blocks

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Speaker 8: So Uh, it.

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Speaker 4: Makes a tough upfront. But I thought that they'll bounce

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Speaker 4: back from this. Uh, they'll they'll figure it out of

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Speaker 4: what the what the Bears were doing exactly to slow.

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Speaker 5: The run game down?

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Speaker 3: Andre, We're joining us on Texans Monday. All right, you

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Speaker 3: go to Minnesota and we'll talk more about this one.

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Speaker 3: But you go to Minnesota than Sam Darnold. They're two

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Speaker 3: to zero. Darnald resurrected again. I don't know what to

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Speaker 3: make of this quarterback. You know, he's got talent that's

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Speaker 3: never been in question. What has been in questioned is consistency.

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Speaker 3: And you hope that he has a downturn next week?

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Speaker 3: What about that part of the.

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Speaker 4: Well, a tremendous amount of pressure is on him when

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Speaker 4: he went to New York, and I think it's on

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers as well this year to deliver a Super

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Speaker 5: And so when you're thinking that way, we got everything,

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Speaker 5: but the quarterback. It's tough on him as a young player.

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Speaker 4: Then he goes to Carottlin and he's bounced around a

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Speaker 4: little bit and finally you find the right place and

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Speaker 4: the right fit for you and the right coaching stab

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Speaker 4: and I think he's found that in Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: So it makes him, It causes him to relax a

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Speaker 4: Now he can just go play without all these other

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Speaker 4: distractions and issues and wondering. Luk, he's got personnel that

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Speaker 4: is up to par to where it directly affects him.

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Speaker 5: I think he does. And we're gonna see that on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: We've got it.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing a good, solid football team in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota's very very good, and they've got pass rush

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Speaker 1: and they've got linebackers.

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Speaker 7: But we do here as well, Dre.

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Speaker 1: With what we saw last night, two linebackers played incredible.

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Speaker 1: We'll get them a little bit. But this pass rush

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Speaker 1: was ferocious. And one of the things I said to

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Speaker 1: Demiko was the four guys up front would just rush

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, why would you bring five?

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Speaker 1: And then I realized, Oh, he's just allowing those outside

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Speaker 1: not when he's bringing an extra rusher. But daneil Hunter

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Speaker 1: and Will Anderson three sacks amongst them. I think they

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Speaker 1: both had a couple of TFLs each. Your thoughts about

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Speaker 1: what this pass rush is doing, especially Daniel and Will

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm equally as impressed. But with the guys inside,

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Speaker 4: a guy like Mario Edwards Junior doing what he's doing,

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Speaker 4: because I thought that would be a question mark coming

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Speaker 4: into the season. It's not there taking care of the run.

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Speaker 4: They're freeing up guys on the outside. When you bring,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna match. Gives a lot of guys or some

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Speaker 4: guys one on ones and on the outside they took

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Speaker 4: full advantage of it. You look up and it was

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Speaker 4: it was basically the has seven sacks that I may

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that they'd actually sacked Caleb Williams seven

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Speaker 5: So that's off to the defense.

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Speaker 4: You throw into two picks by the corners Lassiter and Stingley,

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Speaker 4: and you had one heck of a night.

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Speaker 5: Defensively for their head coach to meet go Riots.

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Speaker 3: So seven sacks obviously a lot, six different players each

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Speaker 3: recording at least one sack. That's the first time that

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Speaker 3: has occurred in the history of the franchise. So it's

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Speaker 3: coming from all over the place, and that's that's really

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Speaker 3: what you want to.

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Speaker 7: See, right Dre.

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Speaker 3: They said a team record last year, and you want

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Speaker 3: to see it from all over. That way, it's harder

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Speaker 3: to gain plan against correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like the offense. If you flip

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Speaker 5: it over and flip it around where you've.

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Speaker 4: Got Nico, Dell and Diggs and you throw in the

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Speaker 4: two three tight ends, you can't figure out who's going

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Speaker 4: to get the ball.

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Speaker 5: Well, on defense, you don't know where it's.

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Speaker 6: Coming from when.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can get home at any time, or you scheming

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Speaker 4: it up for one guy or the other. That makes

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Speaker 4: you dangerous defensively because you don't really know how to

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Speaker 1: One of the guys last night, Dre, that I thought

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Speaker 1: played extremely well. You said his name a lot, We

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Speaker 1: talked about it a lot, and he's come up. He's

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Speaker 1: come I don't say he's come a long way, but

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Speaker 1: from his rookie year to now stepping in as a starter.

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Speaker 1: I actually used the words Wally Pip to Mark a

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Speaker 1: little while ago. Uh, he kind of looked at me

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Speaker 1: like I had five heads. But Henry Toatoa has played

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Speaker 1: his guts out and it's funny after the game.

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Speaker 7: I talked to him after the game.

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Speaker 1: His stat line is amazing, but you know the play

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Speaker 1: that he was like shaking his head the most at

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Speaker 1: was he had a blitz and he was he was

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Speaker 1: one on one with Caleb Williams. There's nobody in his way,

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Speaker 1: and he thought Caleb was gonna throw, So Henry jumped

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Speaker 1: in the air and then Caleb backed and then stepped

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Speaker 1: around and made it throw. But Henry Totoa's progress, his

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Speaker 1: growth in this defense, Dre, what have you seen and

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Speaker 1: what do you like about what Henry's brought to this

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Speaker 1: defense this year?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Oh, the way he's playing this year is is sick.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's fast sideline to sideline. He's around the

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Speaker 4: great pride in what he's doing, and you also know

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Speaker 4: that he's studying the game to allow him to play

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Speaker 4: as fast as he's playing, especially just being in his

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Speaker 4: second year, so he's embraced the defense.

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Speaker 5: You can tell he knows it. And now he's putting all.

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Speaker 8: That stuff together.

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Speaker 5: I think you're you're seeing the.

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Speaker 4: Makings of a really, really good football player at linebacker.

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Speaker 7: So developing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams number one pick in the draft, he's played

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Speaker 3: two games. You see some flashes, but then you look

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Speaker 3: at guys second year will Levis really struggling for the

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Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans. He's talking about Yeah, we'll talk about him later.

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Speaker 3: Anthony richardson year two having a tough time. This is

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Speaker 5: I really believe that. And with CJ, yeah, he had

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts about both of you.

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Speaker 7: I know that it was raining. The Browns are tough.

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Speaker 7: You're home. You gotta win that football game.

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Speaker 3: You have to, and you have to score more points

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Speaker 7: Florida weather. You live in Florida, Let's deal with it.

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Speaker 3: But it was what it was, so I think it's

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Speaker 4: They've gone to the playoffs together, right, Yeah, it's weird

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think it's Duck's fault.

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Speaker 4: They can't get the running game going, so it's all

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Speaker 5: But Doug didn't forget how to coach quarterbacks overnight.

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Speaker 4: You guys just described you know, his successes in the past,

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Speaker 5: It's just some other things have to come along.

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Speaker 6: In Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Not even close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels like, you know, I watched the

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Speaker 3: According to Next Gen Stats, the Texans defense pressured Caleb

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Speaker 7: That's thirty six will Anderson seen.

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Speaker 5: With with a line that's leaking, you know it the seams.

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Speaker 3: And you know it's the old quarterback gets too much

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Speaker 3: Because last week was Caleb Williams wins his debut. He

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: I think Caleb.

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Speaker 5: Williams is gonna be fine. He is a talent. Will

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Speaker 4: I just kind of feel like that for him, you

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Speaker 3: You know what I love about Fields and the Steelers.

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Speaker 7: So how about that? It's two.

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Speaker 7: They're talking about that in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: This week?

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Speaker 4: Going way up to Syracuse, New York to see Syracuse

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Speaker 5: So how far I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know that Stanford could go any farther to play

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Speaker 3: If you had said this to be twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 5: Yes, short week?

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Speaker 3: See if they're going to BC that's a little further

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Speaker 3: So Okay, Dray, we'll see us soon. You can't wait

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, let's talk later.

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Speaker 1: There is our good friend Andre where game analysts got

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Speaker 1: a good one on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that man, He had you own the

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Speaker 1: Anishow does play by play for the Carolina Panthers. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there has been some discussion about that, but Aniche

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Speaker 2: And I always love hearing Dre on a Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I always text him at some point in the second

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Speaker 1: for ESPN and does college games.

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Speaker 6: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Andre. Where coming up next our good friend Indye Clue.

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Speaker 1: But we had a lot to talk about, and you know,

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Speaker 1: happen next right here on Texans all Axis, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody, well what's left of it? Anyways, It's

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Speaker 1: and it was awesome, Texans getting nineteen thirteen win the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, one thousand, seven hundred and fifty days ago.

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Speaker 1: Texans one night night by six, one last night by six.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully that's a little bit of a theme because

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Speaker 2: But that is for later in the season.

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Speaker 6: We'll have that later.

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Speaker 1: What we have right now is our good friend Indi Kalu.

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Speaker 1: The pass rush was absolutely awesome. So let's get Indy

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Speaker 1: Kullu's thoughts on that as he joined Mark and myself.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to Dy Kollou and talk about this defense

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Speaker 3: to out and d as. You were facing a Bears

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Speaker 3: team that did not play good offense last week, but

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Speaker 3: you wanted to keep them down.

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Speaker 7: You held them to thirteen at home. You did the job.

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Speaker 8: I'll say this, this was a fun game for me

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Speaker 8: to watch, and I don't think the Bears defense gets

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Speaker 8: enough credit. So for the Texans to do what they

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Speaker 8: did with the seven sacks, the two interceptions, and you're

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Speaker 8: going against a Bears team that's not good as an

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Speaker 8: entire unit, but their defense is very good. So we

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Speaker 8: arguably saw two of the better defenses in the NFL

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Speaker 8: playing and it played out the way, you know, the

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Speaker 8: way you would expect it to.

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Speaker 6: But man, where do you even start?

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Speaker 8: I mean, do you start with the guys up front,

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Speaker 8: with you know, Danielle Hunter, will Anderson each having a

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Speaker 8: sack and a half, and let's not forget about Mario Edwards.

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Speaker 8: You know, another week where he shows that not only

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Speaker 8: can he play the run, but he could also get

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Speaker 8: you some pass rush or the big plays by your cornerbacks.

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Speaker 8: You know when we when we were talking in the

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Speaker 8: preseason about Derek Stingling and Kamari Lassiter, these are the

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Speaker 8: type of games that we envisioned during the regular season.

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Speaker 8: It was just it was fun to see it all

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Speaker 8: come together. And I'm not overly concerned a couple of people,

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Speaker 8: Oh man, they should have blown out the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 8: Anytime you're in the NFL and you're playing against the

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Speaker 8: team that has a good defense, it's just hard to

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Speaker 8: blow them out. I'll take that victory any day of

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Speaker 8: the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, we were talking about that earlier. It's nineteen

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Speaker 1: ten and you're about to get the three yard line,

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Speaker 1: You're about to hammer one in and go up twenty

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Speaker 1: six to ten, and then you know Cam fumbles, and

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously things change at that point because they

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Speaker 1: go out to kickfield goal. It's six points, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Last night I kept thinking about you, n D because

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about pass rush, defensive line. You and

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this so often, but that one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Demico did, and I want to get your.

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Speaker 7: Thoughts on it.

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Speaker 1: He would bring a Thease as a fifth rusher to

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Speaker 1: make sure that everybody up front essentially was getting a

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Speaker 1: solo matchup, and as the Texans got solo matchups last night,

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Speaker 1: Danil Hunter and Will Anderson were just absolutely eating your

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Speaker 1: thoughts about how the pass rush just really impacted the

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Speaker 1: game and how Demiko is scheming up the pass rush

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Speaker 1: just by using an extra rusher to make sure they

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Speaker 1: got one on one matchups.

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Speaker 8: I wish you could see my notes that I took

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Speaker 8: last night, because I don't want you to just think, oh, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Agree with you, John.

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Speaker 8: I literally wrote a note sending linebackers to keep the

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Speaker 8: offensive line on. This is how I put it, and

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Speaker 8: what I meant by that was I was noticing, just

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Speaker 8: like you mentioned when you saw these and a couple

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Speaker 8: of times toa toa what it allowed. It allowed for

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Speaker 8: one offensive lineman to have to pick them up. And

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Speaker 8: it gave you a chance to have Will Anderson Daniel

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Speaker 8: Hunter with one on one matchups. So it wasn't a

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Speaker 8: situation where you're just thinking to yourself, we're gonna blitz

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Speaker 8: just to confuse the young quarterback. It was also, no,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna blitz our linebackers so we can utilize the

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Speaker 8: one on one matchups that we have on the edges.

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Speaker 8: So no, I thought that was that was a great

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Speaker 8: job by Tomigo, great job by you noticing it, And

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Speaker 8: I even made that note that And I can't get

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Speaker 8: into Tomko's head, but I did play with them for

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Speaker 8: three years. I don't think it was just to confuse

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Speaker 8: Caleb Williams. It was like, no, we want to get

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Speaker 8: these one on what matchups up front. So I do

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Speaker 8: feel like we're gonna see that a lot during the year.

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Speaker 3: You know, Stroud is not the talk of the team

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Speaker 3: all the time, but like last weekendy, here's my CJ.

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Speaker 7: Stroud appreciation question.

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Speaker 3: Because two hundred and sixty yards, no turnovers. That pick

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Speaker 3: was not a pick. We all saw it as it happened.

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Speaker 3: I thought, bring that baby back, come on review this thing.

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Speaker 3: Through the touchdown pass de Niico. It was not the

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Speaker 3: kind of game that we former coach here would say

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Speaker 3: you'd send a canton, but it was the kind of

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Speaker 3: game that got the victory Steady as she goes, especially

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Speaker 3: at a night where you couldn't run the ball.

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Speaker 8: Well, no, absolutely, And the biggest stat line for CJ.

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Speaker 8: Stroud in a day where you know he doesn't blow

535
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Speaker 8: you away with the stat line is the zero interceptions

536
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Speaker 8: because he allowed his defense to do what they had

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Speaker 8: to do. He allowed his special teams to do what

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Speaker 8: they had to do. When you talk about three phases

539
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Speaker 8: of football, you know, coaches always talking about defense, offensive,

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Speaker 8: special teams. The Texas looked great in two of those phases,

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Speaker 8: special teams and defense, and with the offense looking good,

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Speaker 8: you can even say average. Average is good, but it's

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Speaker 8: hard to say average when Nico Collins had the night

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Speaker 8: that he had, So I'll I'll say above average. You're

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Speaker 8: gonna win games as long as somebody doesn't screw it up.

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Speaker 8: So for CJ. Stroud to drop back thirty six thirty

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Speaker 8: seven times not throwing an interception, he did just enough.

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Speaker 8: And we know, whether it's Minnesota a game after that,

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Speaker 8: he's gonna have another CJ. Stroud type game. But I

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Speaker 8: love the fact that he didn't turn the ball over

551
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Speaker 8: and he allowed his defensive special teams to, you know,

552
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Speaker 8: be the writing factor for winning that game.

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Speaker 1: Andy, I'm gonna ask you a question that's gonna sound

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Speaker 1: really kind of weird, But it's something that I brought

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Speaker 1: up in a last segment with Mark.

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Speaker 7: How much is good coaching worth in the NFL? In

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Speaker 7: your opinion?

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Speaker 6: Oh good?

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Speaker 8: When you said weird, I thought you're gonna ask me

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Speaker 8: what I was wearing. And I haven't got drudged yet

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Speaker 8: for the day.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, how much is good coaching work? Because

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Speaker 1: the reason I bring it up is you seeing what

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Speaker 1: obviously Demiko on this staff have done. Here Klink Kubiak

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Speaker 1: with the Saints offensive staff.

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Speaker 7: What they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've taken the same talent and turned into

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Speaker 1: a scoring machine. You know Andy Reid what he's done

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Speaker 1: all the years. And you know Andy obviously really really well.

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Speaker 1: How much is good coaching worth to and you know

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Speaker 1: most teams? And like I said, the talent is similar,

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Speaker 1: but it's similar throughout the NFL.

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Speaker 7: How much is it worth? And how much did you.

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Speaker 1: Feel it when you had good coaches on your coaching

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Speaker 1: staff helping you?

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Speaker 6: No, the talent is very similar. I think you're dead

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Speaker 6: on with that.

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Speaker 8: And that's why you have to have great coaching and

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Speaker 8: creative coaching and not just coaching. But you know, there

580
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Speaker 8: has to be that psychology factor into it where coaches

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Speaker 8: truly understand their players. I think that's what makes coach

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Speaker 8: Harball and Baltimore such a great coach. When I was

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Speaker 8: with him in Philadelphia and he was a special teams coach,

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Speaker 8: he was always reading the Art of War and all

585
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Speaker 8: these different psychology books and I remember asking them and

586
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Speaker 8: I'm like, the coach, why are you reading that book?

587
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Speaker 8: And he's all, Klou, I'm not going to be a

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Speaker 8: special teams coach forever. I was at the time, I

589
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Speaker 8: was like, whatever, youngster, you know, But now I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: I get it. And that's why his players they'll run

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Speaker 8: through a wall form. But back to the x's and

592
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Speaker 8: those it's huge. I don't want to just throw an

593
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Speaker 8: arbitrary number on it, but I think that's what separates

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Speaker 8: great seasons from good seasons because, like you mentioned, the

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Speaker 8: talent is very, very similar just within the Texans, so

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Speaker 8: we could localize it. Nico Collins is, you know, having

597
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Speaker 8: an All Pro type year after only two games talent wise,

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Speaker 8: Like if you compared him to Xavier Hutchinson and they

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Speaker 8: run the forty and they do the bench test and

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Speaker 8: they do all these different drills, there's not going to

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Speaker 8: be much difference. But when you go out there and

602
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Speaker 8: you are coached up a certain way and the intangibles,

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Speaker 8: that's kind of what separates players and teams from one another.

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Speaker 8: That wasn't a shot against Xavier Hutchinson. I'm just showing

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Speaker 8: how one guy and one player who's a star in

606
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Speaker 8: the NFL versus an up and coming player in Xavier

607
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Speaker 8: Hutchinson physically there's not that much difference. Then when you

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Speaker 8: look at the entire team, you could say the same thing.

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Speaker 8: So coaching definitely matters.

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Speaker 3: And let me try not to word salad this thing

611
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Speaker 3: too much after a four hours sleep and late night

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Speaker 3: and all that. But a lot of talk about what

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Speaker 3: the Texans are, what they're doing. Of course we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be critical, we're gonna analyze everything.

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Speaker 7: They're two and zero.

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Speaker 3: How long does it take till you really know what

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Speaker 3: a team is all about? Because in the preseason we

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Speaker 3: analyze these eight snap performances of a unit or a player,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you're jumping into full games,

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Speaker 3: and I think it takes a few weeks.

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Speaker 7: To really know who you are, what you are.

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Speaker 3: What you really need to do and you have to

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Speaker 3: do it on the fly, you have no choice, and

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Speaker 3: you win and lose in the process. But what are

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on how long that takes to really determine

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Speaker 3: what you're all about?

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Speaker 8: Week eight, like, week eight to me, is when you

628
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Speaker 8: can determine, Okay, these are the teams that have separated

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Speaker 8: themselves from the rest of the pack. These are the

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Speaker 8: teams that, you know what, they got off to a

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Speaker 8: hot start, but reality start to set in. I've always

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Speaker 8: thought we get Week eight is when you could truly

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Speaker 8: start to look at these teams and say, okay, these

634
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Speaker 8: are your top power rankings and this is everybody else. Look,

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Speaker 8: it's fun. They're two and zero. Who knows what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 8: When they played Minnesota Sam Darnold one week, he looks like,

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Speaker 8: oh yeah, that's the number one overall pick. The next

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Speaker 8: week you're wondering, how did he go number one overall?

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Speaker 8: So I just feel season of season, you need about

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Speaker 8: eight weeks but sounds like a lot of weeks. But

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Speaker 8: also god forbid, but it just happens. It's the NFL.

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Speaker 8: That's also when injuries starts to settle in and you

643
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Speaker 8: start to get a good look at your depth. So

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Speaker 8: it's a fun ride, you know, keep the winning. But

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Speaker 8: when you look at AC South, you know, I'm all

646
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Speaker 8: over the place because I love this question. The AC

647
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Speaker 8: South looks like it's the Houston Texans and just everybody else.

648
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Speaker 8: But you have to believe somebody's gonna emerge, whether it's

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Speaker 8: the Titans, whether Anthony Richardson starts to get into his

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Speaker 8: flow he did not look good yesterday and starts to play,

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Speaker 8: or Trevor Lawrence. You know, I still think Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 8: is a good NFL quarterback. So Week eight is when

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Speaker 8: I really start to say, Okay, you know what you

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Speaker 8: have in these teams?

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot at this time last year,

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Speaker 1: who thought the Texans were going to win the AFC

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Speaker 1: South After the two games they had to start the year,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Nobody felt we were gonna

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Speaker 1: do anything, and there was a lot of talk about

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Speaker 1: what was happening with us.

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Speaker 7: We were complete mess against.

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Speaker 1: The Colts last year and turned around and won ten

663
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Speaker 1: of the next fifteen games and then win the AFC South.

664
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Speaker 1: So and he's definitely right about that. And you want

665
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Speaker 1: to ask you about a funny moment. This actually happened

666
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Speaker 1: in the Packers Colts game. After the game, there was

667
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Speaker 1: a play in which Malik Willis did not make a

668
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Speaker 1: throw on third down. He took a snap, he dropped

669
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Speaker 1: the pass, and he didn't make a throw on third down.

670
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Speaker 1: And Matt Lafleur was asked after the game about that,

671
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Speaker 1: and Lafour said, yeah, I asked Malik about that, and

672
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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, Josh vomited on the football, meaning Josh Myers,

673
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Speaker 1: the center, vomited.

674
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Speaker 7: On a football. He said, vomit was all in football.

675
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Speaker 7: He couldn't get a handle on it.

676
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Speaker 1: What's kind of the weirdest thing that you've ever we've

677
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Speaker 1: seen kind of happen on a field like that in

678
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Speaker 1: a game in which somebody vomited or something like that happened.

679
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen dudes vomit, but he vomited on

680
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Speaker 1: the football and his quarterback couldn't throw the ball as

681
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Speaker 1: a result on a key third down in the game,

682
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Speaker 1: which was pretty interesting. What's kind of the strangest and

683
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Speaker 1: weirdest thing you've seen happen on a football field in

684
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Speaker 1: that vein.

685
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Speaker 8: That's very odd to actually vomit on the football to

686
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Speaker 8: where the quarterback can't throw it on a down. But

687
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Speaker 8: speaking of you know, regurgitating and throwing up, I do

688
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 8: remember when I was with the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't

689
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Speaker 8: quote me on the team. I want to say it

690
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 8: was the Carolina Panthers, but our offense was putting together

691
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Speaker 8: a masterful drive. I mean it was one of those

692
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Speaker 8: thirteen minute drives. They're matriculating down the field, getting first

693
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Speaker 8: down after first down.

694
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Speaker 6: It was hot.

695
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Speaker 8: Donovan McNabb our, quarterback, was picking up first downs with

696
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Speaker 8: his legs and in the middle of the drive, in

697
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Speaker 8: the huddle, he's calling the play. Then he kind of

698
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Speaker 8: just excuses him right outside of the huddle, throws up,

699
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Speaker 8: finishes calling the play against the ball, and then he

700
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Speaker 8: runs for another first down. And I'll never I don't

701
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 8: know if the news made it down south to you know,

702
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 8: Houston at the time, but up there that he got

703
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 8: a lot of crap for that, Like they were like, oh,

704
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 8: he's out of shape, and the whole team we're scratching

705
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 8: our head, Like, man, this dude, like he really showed

706
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Speaker 8: what type of leader he was on this drive that

707
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Speaker 8: he gave it all he had. In the middle of

708
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Speaker 8: the drive, he's throwing up, you know, he has to

709
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Speaker 8: excuse himself. He goes back to call the play and

710
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 8: they go down to score on that drive. So that

711
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Speaker 8: was that was very impressive. And there's guys are always

712
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 8: throwing up, I mean, guys are always throwing up and

713
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Speaker 8: doing other things, letting loose other liquids that you don't

714
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Speaker 8: want to know about on the football field. But for

715
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Speaker 8: it to happen on the ball, that that's pretty.

716
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Speaker 7: Interesting, Okay, Indy.

717
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Speaker 1: On the last play, the first quarter, last player, the

718
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Speaker 1: first quarter, their Texans are thinking, we gotten down to

719
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Speaker 1: the eight or nine yard line somewhere in there, Nico

720
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: and Nico and Tyreek Stevenson getting a little dust up,

721
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Speaker 1: in large part because Tyreek Stevenson stuck his finger in

722
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Speaker 1: the eye of Nico Collins and Nico reacts and Nico

723
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: ends up getting the fifteen yard penalty. I don't really

724
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Speaker 1: know how to really ask this question other than there's

725
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happen on a football field,

726
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Speaker 1: But it feels like poking a guy in the eyes

727
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: that should be free reign that you should be able

728
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Speaker 1: to punch that dude right in a face mask if

729
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Speaker 1: you want, did you have? I mean, I know things

730
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Speaker 1: happened in the pile all the time. But did you

731
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Speaker 1: ever have a moment kind of like that where dudes

732
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Speaker 1: were trying to poke you in the eye when you

733
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Speaker 1: were playing in a football game?

734
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Speaker 7: And how did you react?

735
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Speaker 8: That always happens because guys try to get you out

736
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 8: of your game. When I saw that, I was so

737
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 8: upset because he did it right in front of the rest.

738
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 8: Usually they you know, and coaches always tell you, hey,

739
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 8: try not to react because they always see the reaction

740
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Speaker 8: and not what initiated it. Like coaches will tell you

741
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 8: that from junior high all the way way up to

742
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 8: the NFL. But when you get poked in. I didn't

743
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Speaker 8: know if he got poked in the eye or if

744
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 8: he did the pointer finger shoving of the head. That's

745
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Speaker 8: what it looked like, you know, from my point. But

746
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 8: either way, you know, as a man, you you just

747
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 8: have to react. You have to react. I thought that

748
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 8: it should have been what do you call double penalty

749
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 8: where they kind of erase themselves, but thank you offsetting,

750
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 8: you know, offsetting penalties. But Nico had to respond to

751
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 8: that because if he didn't, then guys are looking at

752
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 8: him in the locker room like, oh, really, look, we

753
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 8: don't care about the fifteen yards. But being our teammate

754
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 8: and as a man, you can't let somebody just shove

755
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 8: you with their pointer finger and not react to it.

756
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 8: I was just so annoyed that the reptid said, but John,

757
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 8: As you know, that stuff happens all the time, the

758
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 8: worst for d lineman. It happens like when there's a pile.

759
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 8: Under the pile, like that's when guys start trying to

760
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 8: break your finger. You know they're poking you in the eye,

761
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 8: and that's when you get up and you react, and

762
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Speaker 8: then you look like you're a fool. You look crazy

763
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 8: to everybody you know on the stands, like why is

764
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 8: he so upset when they're getting out of the pile,

765
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Speaker 8: Because a lot of those offensive linemen. Frank Middleton from Boumont,

766
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 8: Texas played for the Raiders. One of the nastiest, dirtiest

767
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 8: offensive lineman NFL players out there.

768
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Speaker 6: He was known for.

769
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Speaker 8: Doing things like that, like under the pile when the

770
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Speaker 8: ref's not looking, uh, trying to clean up the pile.

771
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Speaker 8: You know, when you run to to go make a play,

772
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Speaker 8: but then you pull up because you know that the

773
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 8: play has been made, he'll.

774
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Speaker 6: Try to clean you up.

775
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Speaker 8: He was a guy that always tried to get gets

776
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Speaker 8: you to react in a certain way.

777
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Speaker 7: So I explained this.

778
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Speaker 1: I was talking to my daughter last night and my wife,

779
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Speaker 1: and I explained this about, you know, the pile in

780
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: football can get kind of wild. There's some things that

781
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Speaker 1: happened and all that. And this is when I realized

782
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Speaker 1: I raised a good daughter, because she's like, oh, yeah,

783
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Speaker 1: i'd be doing all those things.

784
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Speaker 3: Well it's like, yes, Like there's no gentleman's code here,

785
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: no way, It's not like I'm in the wrongs now.

786
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Speaker 7: It's not the pile.

787
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: Not the pile, get it and the travel on the body.

788
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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about this. I know you've

789
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: never played for a West Coast team, but you've had

790
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: probably situations similar to this. The Jets go to San

791
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: Francisco Monday night and they lose. Then they have to

792
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: travel to Tennessee for a nooner on Sunday, and I

793
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: thought they were sluggish. I thought they were affected. But

794
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: they won the game. Thank you very much, New York

795
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: Jets for beating the Tennessee Titans. And then I look

796
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 3: at Seattle and I know the West Coast teams tend

797
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: to come out a day early. They come out Friday

798
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: to play a noon or one o'clock Eastern game on Sunday,

799
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Speaker 3: and I thought Seattle looked a little sluggish, but they

800
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 3: got the win against New England in overtime. How much

801
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: effect does that have on these guys' bodies or are

802
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: they young and they can just bounce back from this

803
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: stuff pretty easily.

804
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 8: No, it has an effect because, like we talked about

805
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 8: earlier in the segment, when you talk about the margin

806
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 8: of talent being so slim, any little thing can give

807
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 8: a team an advantage. That's why all the good coaches

808
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 8: that I played for. You know, I spent most of

809
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 8: my career on the East Coast with Washington and Philly.

810
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 8: When we went to the West Coast and sometimes even

811
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 8: the Midwest, we would just leave two days earlier just

812
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 8: to get used to it. Get us almost that that

813
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 8: training camp, feel like, get us away from the families

814
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 8: and use that one day to relax, get our legs

815
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 8: under us another time. Which is interesting, when we would

816
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 8: leave early if we ever went up to Colorado, you know,

817
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 8: to play Denver, because the sleep like throws you off

818
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 8: because of the I don't know what it is, something

819
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 8: about the air quality up there, but it just throws

820
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 8: you off, so we would always go early. So I

821
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Speaker 8: really credit the coaching staffs that think about that. You know,

822
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Speaker 8: there's some coaches I had, whatever, these guys will figure

823
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 8: it out. But the ones that truly understand like with

824
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 8: the time change, with the climate difference, we want to

825
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 8: go get there a little bit early and kind of

826
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Speaker 8: get our bodies used to it.

827
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Speaker 6: So, you know, I think that's a big deal.

828
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 8: Mark, And it's usually the good coaching staffs and the

829
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 8: good programs and teams that really adhere to that.

830
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Speaker 1: Last night with the Texans didn't run the ball exceptionally well,

831
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: there were some moments maybe they left some yards on

832
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: the field with the run game.

833
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 7: Cam akers came in there and.

834
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Speaker 1: That was obviously someone that you and I talked about

835
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: during the broadcast, and camp gave them good things until

836
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: obviously fumble was a tough one. But just as you

837
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of watched the TV copy, was there anything that

838
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: stood out in the run game to you that you

839
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was either different from week one or

840
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: something they could have been doing better. You said it earlier.

841
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: This Bears defense is pretty good. Their long, physical athletic

842
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: upfront and then at the linebacker spots. But just in

843
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: your opinion, you think the run game there was something

844
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: that they could have been doing better or something that

845
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: they have to improve improve upon before going to Minnesota.

846
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Speaker 8: Now, I don't want to give the offense a pass,

847
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 8: but as I was watching that, it wasn't to my

848
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 8: I wasn't thinking to myself like, oh man, this run

849
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 8: game is bad for the Texas. I was thinking, like, man,

850
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 8: the Chicago Bears their peace. I mean those guys up front,

851
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 8: the way they were shetting theirs and getting in their gaps.

852
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 8: Tremaine Edmunds, I've always thought he was one of the

853
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 8: underrated middle linebackers. I mean he's a Levon Kirkland type

854
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 8: but with a better build. And for those that don't

855
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 8: know Levon Kirkland, longtime middle linebacker for the Seahawks, who

856
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 8: you know, weighed in at about two hundred and ninety pounds.

857
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 8: Playing middle linebacker, Tremaine Edmunds is about he's every bit

858
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 8: of two hundred and fifty five two hundred and sixty pounds,

859
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 8: but can move. I mean that dude is a straight

860
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 8: stud and I would have liked to have seen on

861
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 8: just a few plays. John, I'm not going to act

862
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 8: like that. I was able to rewatch every single snap,

863
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 8: but I would like to see the guys just stay

864
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 8: on the block a little bit longer and not It

865
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 8: doesn't mean you have to have a pancake, but just

866
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 8: be in the way because it's so tough to make

867
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Speaker 8: a tackle when you have a three hundred and you know,

868
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 8: ten pound guard in front of you and you're trying

869
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 8: to make an arm tackle. So I would have just

870
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Speaker 8: have liked to have seen them just stay on the

871
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 8: blocks and tap it longer. But you have to credit

872
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 8: the Chicago Bears front seven for, you know, doing a

873
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 8: good job shedding.

874
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: The blocks, and they Andre was on earlier and you'll

875
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: be glad to know he did not say anything about

876
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: what happened over the weekend cross Town. Oh yeah, so

877
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: you'll be glad to know that. But what's the future there?

878
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: What are you thinking here as they try to get

879
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: better at Rice, your alma mater?

880
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 6: You know what?

881
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 8: Here's you should not have ended with that question, because

882
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 8: I have so much to say about college football in general,

883
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 8: and with the NIL the portal, the I think it

884
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 8: makes for a more polarizing season across the board because

885
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 8: you have teams that you weren't expecting to be great.

886
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 8: You know, have some upsets, and you have teams like

887
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 8: Florida State where the field is caught up to them

888
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 8: and that's how they're sitting zero three. But it really

889
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 8: hurt teams like Rice where we can't just take any transfer.

890
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 8: You know, with all these other schools, it's like, oh,

891
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 8: you know, you're not a mouth breather, Okay, you can

892
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 8: sign up and play for our school. But with at Rice,

893
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 8: it's still a little bit different. They don't take the

894
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 8: train the credits from certain schools, and it's just tough.

895
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Speaker 6: Not an excuse. You gotta win.

896
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 8: Credit to the Koops, you know, they kicked our tail,

897
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 8: so shout out to them. But I just think the

898
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 8: whole landscape of college football is so different. It's gonna

899
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 8: be tough for the Stamfords, the rices of the Northwesterns

900
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 8: to be consistently competitive.

901
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Indeed, how about Lil Kolu getting a win for the

902
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Baylor Bears this weekend?

903
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 8: Hell, young man do he got his first start. I

904
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 8: was a proud proud dad. He even got a tackle

905
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 8: for laws, so I was happy. The regular starter got hurt,

906
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 8: and the regular starter he's a stud. Uh, So my son's.

907
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 6: Learning a lot from him.

908
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 8: But for him to start and play every play in

909
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 8: the first half, I was just up there. I was

910
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 8: actually yelling for the coach to take him out so

911
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 8: he could get a rest, but he held up. I

912
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 8: was very, very proud of him.

913
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Speaker 4: Man.

914
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: Shout out to Baylor forgetting that that home victory.

915
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 7: That's unusual for a dad to be said, take about

916
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 7: getting block all game exactly.

917
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: Look, you know John that those cup blocks like they

918
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: were legal. But I was so mad.

919
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 8: I want to run out on the field and be like,

920
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 8: you know, try that mess on me.

921
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: It's so tough to play that offense. Man, young relations man.

922
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: It's awesome to see him do so well.

923
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 8: Man.

924
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: But one thing about college sports in general, and my

925
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: buddy Stan was in town. He's he's a what is

926
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Speaker 3: the vice president of student affairs at Central Michigan. But

927
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 3: I used to do games with him when I worked

928
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: there a long time ago. Anyway, we were talking about

929
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: college athletics and he has a lot of insight, and

930
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: he talked about the basketball team there. They had a

931
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: pretty good year last year, lost nine guys because they

932
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: all got more money somewhere else, right, So every year

933
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: you're trying to put a band together. At that level,

934
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: you're trying to get guys who just did not get

935
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: good offers, but they're trying to prove.

936
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Speaker 7: Themselves their improve it deals.

937
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: And it's almost like remember when everyone talked about Calip

938
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: Perry the one and done thing.

939
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 7: They still do, but everybody's one and done.

940
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: Now you got to put a band together, develop a

941
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: culture in a summer, and let's go play either football, basketball,

942
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: and then a lot of you guys are gonna leave

943
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: if you're at a certain level.

944
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 7: Even if you're at a high level, they leave.

945
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: They go to another high level or wherever there's more money,

946
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: and they that's tough. It's tough for these kids to

947
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: resist the money, especially when you know the academic experience

948
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: or of campus life experience might not be the number

949
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: one priority. The sport is probably the number one priority.

950
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 8: I've heard situations I won't say any names of the players. Well,

951
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 8: you know, when you talk culture, it's not just one

952
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 8: or two players, but guys now when they transfer to

953
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 8: other schools and they're asked to actually go to class,

954
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 8: they're actually shocked and upset. Like I've heard situations where

955
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 8: the players are like not now they're used to aline courses,

956
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 8: but they get upset when they're required to actually go

957
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 8: to class Like that's it just blows my mind.

958
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: It's definitely changed. Absolutely, it has absolutely changed. There's no

959
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: question about that. But I like seeing I like seeing

960
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Baylor two to one. I like that in the big

961
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I love it. Twelve had a good weekend. It was

962
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: a good weekend. So that was really cool. Ind man,

963
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Thank you as always, my friend.

964
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 8: Hey, real quick shout out to Alan Olidrews. Made his

965
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 8: beautiful soul rest in peace. This was a guy that

966
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 8: played at u of Ah. He mentored so many young guys.

967
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 8: Obviously played in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, but

968
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 8: in the fourth ben area. You know, I really got

969
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 8: to know him coaching the little league fourth ben teams

970
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 8: and obviously he was a coach in high school and

971
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 8: unexpectedly passed away.

972
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 6: Just a beautiful man.

973
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 8: I just want to make sure, you know, I say,

974
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 8: made soul rest in peace. And we're praying for his

975
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 8: family because that that hurt the football community, especially in Houston.

976
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 6: That hit us hard.

977
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, I played against Allen in middle school,

978
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: then in high school early on he went to I

979
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: think you went to Missouri City Middle School and then

980
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: he went to Willow Ridge, so he was my year

981
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: class of ninety.

982
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 7: So yeah, we played against each other a long time

983
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 7: ago football basketball. So yeah, well said Indy.

984
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: Well said all right, Indy, Amen, thanks a lot for

985
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: bringing that up, and thanks a lot for visiting.

986
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 7: We'll check in with you tomorrow.

987
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 6: All right, I'll see Autumar brothers.

988
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: Of course, great stuff from our good friend and d

989
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Kalou and congratulations to his son and Baylor for getting

990
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: a thirty one to three win over the Air Force Academy. Okay,

991
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: we come back. We'll go around the NFL. A change

992
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: has been made in Carolina quarterback Bryce Young now second

993
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: string who will take his place?

994
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next right here in Texans Auccess. What's happened? Everybody?

995
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: Ay?

996
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: One final segment here, a short one as we take

997
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you up to Falcons Eagles right here on Sports Radio

998
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: six ten Westwood one. We'll have your game coverage game

999
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: at the link, Falcons taking on the Lions, and I

1000
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: do predictions each week straight up and against the spread

1001
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: for fun. It's always good to talk about the game

1002
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: in Philly. It's a five and a half point favorite

1003
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: at home, they're one to zero. I even though this

1004
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: week was really about the dogs, dogs are barking this week,

1005
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: big time dogs barking. I think Philly wins this one.

1006
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I think even though is gonna be back in the

1007
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: building tonight. And he just posted on his Twitter him

1008
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: with that underdog mask that they were wearing Lane Johnson

1009
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: was wearing during that twenty seventeen Super Bowl run underdogs.

1010
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Now, I think tonight it's Philly.

1011
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins not gonna be able to move

1012
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: the ball much against that Philly defense, might get a

1013
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: little bit. I think Philly being at home five and

1014
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: a half point favorite, I think I'm gonna take Philly

1015
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: to win this thing. And then the I think they'll

1016
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: go over the total forty five and a half. Feeling

1017
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: like thirty four to twenty one kind of thing feels good.

1018
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: That's fifty five.

1019
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 6: That's over forty five and a half.

1020
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: So for fun, let's go Eagles win, Eagles cover and

1021
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: over forty five and a half.

1022
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to some news around the league. The

1023
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: starter for the.

1024
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers on Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders will

1025
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: be Bryce Yo, it will not be it is Katie.

1026
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Texas's own Andy Dalton. D Canalis announced that Andy Daht

1027
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: would take over as a starting quarterback. He did not

1028
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: specify Dave Canals. It is not specify whether owner David

1029
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Tepper had a saying the decision, but no a general

1030
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: manager Dan Morgan, second vice president Brent Tillis We're also

1031
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: part of the discussion, but ultimately the decision came down

1032
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: to Canalis. He said, my number one responsibility is to

1033
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: help the Panthers win, So this movie puts us in

1034
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the best chance to do that. Young had completely struggled,

1035
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: and there was there's a stat that I gave to

1036
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Mark earlier this morning off the air that just kes

1037
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: It was just it was time for Bryce to just

1038
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: take a step back.

1039
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Watch Andy, and we'll see when he gets his job back.

1040
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: But I think he might just take time to just

1041
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: get this step away, get a different look, and then

1042
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: come back.

1043
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: Speaking of coming.

1044
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Back, Isaiah Pacheco is going to come back six to

1045
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: eight weeks from now. He was put on the i

1046
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: ARE because of a fibula injury he suffered against the

1047
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. As a result, the Chiefs are kicking attires

1048
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: on former chief Kareem Hunt. Pacheco had been the Chiefs

1049
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: leading rusher in the last each of last two seasons.

1050
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: He'd rushed for ninety yards on nineteen carries caught five

1051
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: passes for twenty one yards on Sunday, So he had

1052
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: a really.

1053
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: Nice ball game.

1054
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: But he went out in the Chiefs twenty six, twenty

1055
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: five controversial win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Titans coach Brian

1056
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: Callahan said, yeah, I don't have any regrets or get

1057
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: over getting frustrated with Will Levis.

1058
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: Hell I got frustrated. I don't even coach Will Levis.

1059
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: I hate watching bad stupid football, and Will Levis has

1060
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: had bad stupid football two weeks in a row. It's

1061
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: the Will Levis experience, Tennessee.

1062
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: Get used to it. It's the same.

1063
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: It's not changed, and we'll see if it can be changed.

1064
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: And that will end the show. Appreciate you guys for

1065
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: being here. Big thanks to Indy, to Andre de Mark

1066
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: to my guy's back.

1067
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Speaker 2: At six ten. Thank you so much. We'll see you tomorrow.

1068
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned for Falcons Eagles, and as always, go Texans.