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Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of balls in the air.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think it's a sure thing that the

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Speaker 2: A's are going to be in Sacramento this whole three

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Chris Biederman is joining us covering the a senior reporter

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Speaker 4: for the Sacramento b Chris, Great to have you on

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Speaker 4: and welcome to foul Territory. Welcome to Sacramento, Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: How are the first.

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Speaker 4: Few days there? Obviously you can go over what you

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Speaker 4: saw on the field and what you've been experiencing in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. It's been pretty surreal because

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Speaker 2: I've been, you know, going to Rivercats games in different

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Speaker 2: capacities since like two thousand and eight, and to see

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Speaker 2: it's been It's been very unique and there was a

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Speaker 2: albeit you know, just under fourteen thousand fans there for

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Speaker 2: in a matinee getaway day on Wednesday, and things weren't

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Speaker 2: really helped by the fact that the A's gave up

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Speaker 2: the most runs they've given up in their first three

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Speaker 2: it's been a little bit rough from that standpoint. The

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Speaker 2: a real interesting situation you have. You know, the team

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Speaker 2: And I think I think the town before the A's

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Speaker 2: like much of northern California, and so it wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to be a slam dunk that there were just going

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Speaker 2: to be legions of A's fans coming to sacrament I know,

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Speaker 2: and obviously many A's fans have been pretty disenchanted by

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Speaker 2: of very polarizing situation, a lot of strong opinions going

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Speaker 5: Does it feel like I know, the seasons early, but

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Speaker 5: does it feel like the organization, the Oakland A's organization

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Speaker 5: has really like put a bunch of signs up and

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Speaker 5: now and like promoted the team or are they just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's interesting is is they've partnered with the

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Speaker 2: River Cats, which are owned by the Sacramento Kings and

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Speaker 2: the vekron A DVA, and the Kings have really have

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Speaker 2: there's been a little bit of it, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: really feel like the A's town right there. There isn't

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Speaker 2: There are billboards, but they're not like everywhere you know.

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Speaker 2: The A's of course, did not make Sacramento as part

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Speaker 2: American major sports without a city attached to their name.

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Speaker 2: They're just the athletics. And so I think some people

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Speaker 2: And I asked John Fisher about that specifically on on Monday,

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Speaker 1: There's major League Baseball here.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago Cubs are in town without really acknowledging the

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Speaker 2: fact that, you know, they they aren't really adopting Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: They're not putting it on the uniforms. They do have

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Speaker 2: a patch with the tower Bridge. That's cool, and they

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Speaker 2: gave out hats on opening night that have the tower

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Speaker 2: know that there's no there's no apparel you can buy

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if that's going to change or not.

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Speaker 2: But the A's did file for the trademark for Sacramento A's,

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Speaker 2: you know, they hope to open that Dome Ballpark on

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that happens.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the A's don't have the best history when it

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Speaker 3: Chris. A couple of things before we dig in.

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Speaker 6: One nice slave, one behind you whatever it's called now lego,

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Speaker 6: So that's that's kil.

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Speaker 3: I have two of those in my house.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you, sweet touch.

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Speaker 6: Second of all, I played in Sacramento in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: So this doesn't supper the run score.

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Speaker 6: But my real question is is they say fourteen thousand

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Speaker 6: Major League Baseball was on the first game in Sacramento?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was was it twelve thousand, nineteen or something

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Speaker 6: Hundred and nineteen, So where in the holy hell are

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Speaker 6: they getting it insto a fourteen thousand seed stadium? If

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Speaker 6: on the first game of the year against the Cubs,

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Speaker 6: now against the team that has a national following, right

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Speaker 6: the Chicago Cubs, they.

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Speaker 3: Only draw twelve thousand.

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Speaker 6: The next night I think was ten thousand, like you said,

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Speaker 6: And then the third night was under nine thousand or

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Speaker 6: hold on, let me I'm looking here.

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Speaker 3: Ten thousand.

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Speaker 6: The second night, yeah, ten thousand, ninety five, and then

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Speaker 3: I believe. I know it is a ghetaway day. It

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Speaker 3: was a day game. But where do they keep coming

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Speaker 3: up with this fake number of fourteen thousand? Are they

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Speaker 6: They talking to vendors, the clubhouse guys, the bat boys,

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Speaker 6: confused because then they had ninety three hundred there, Yes,

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Speaker 6: So where do they get fourteen thousand from?

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Speaker 3: Because I can't figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm with you on that. I think

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Speaker 2: then they have, you know, a few extra thousand that

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Speaker 2: not really sure, and I know the A's were putting

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Speaker 2: they sold all of their premium season tickets for the season.

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Speaker 2: They put it out in January that they sold they

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Speaker 2: sold out all of their season tickets. So apparently all

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Speaker 2: the season tickets have sold out per the team's messaging.

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Speaker 2: But you look at the pure attendance numbers of who's

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Speaker 2: it's not as successful as the team was talking about beforehand.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I know, look, as I mentioned, the

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Speaker 2: are you know, vivekrona dive has been very vocal about

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Speaker 2: So I think the messaging early on was look how

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Speaker 2: and then you see the first three games they fall flat,

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Speaker 2: looks like when you know it's one hundred degrees in

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Speaker 2: the team's not winning? And and I am optimistic about

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Speaker 2: you know what the team is. It's a young, exciting team,

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Speaker 2: particularly offensively. They have not pitched well at all early on.

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Speaker 5: You said, you've been going in some capacity to Rivercats

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Speaker 5: games since two thousand and eight, right, so you've been

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Speaker 3: How have Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna I intern for them back

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Speaker 5: But anyway, continue, How how has the field played these

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Speaker 5: start to get because once it gets warmer, we know

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Speaker 5: the ball flies even more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ball definitely flies in the summer months. I

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Speaker 2: It was in the fifties and forties late in these

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Speaker 2: interesting subplot. I'm sure you guys are well aware. The

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Speaker 2: the Players Union stepped in. They went with natural grass,

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Speaker 2: the wear and tear. But again, that's another thing we'll

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Speaker 2: June and July you'll get the wind coming in from

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Speaker 2: that direction, but the ball will still carry because of

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Speaker 2: But no, I think they're better than how they've played

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Speaker 6: don't care how what they inject it with I mean,

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Speaker 6: I mean they would do a Raiders game and that

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Speaker 6: was no grass. I mean it was painted green, but

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Speaker 6: because you can't play games on a baseball field one

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They there was a lot of discussion about that with

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Speaker 2: I completely get because you know, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: I mean that, Well, we'll see. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: Is this going to be a situation where you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, three year stretch, Like, I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: the press setup is going to be why they won't

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Speaker 2: what kind of look is that going to be for

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Speaker 6: Hold up, hold up, I gotta I gotta fall Wait,

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Speaker 6: you're saying the A's could go back to Oakland, which

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Speaker 6: the crap that was said about from the A's, not

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Speaker 3: To me, you know what.

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Speaker 6: This sounds like that the A's didn't know what they

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Speaker 6: The field could be trashed. The fans aren't showing up

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Speaker 1: Oh but we can.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna rush back to Oakland before hopefully we're one

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Speaker 6: This sounds like a bigger disaster than even Scott Bron

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Speaker 1: Like this is this is Scott Bron's.

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Speaker 6: Like dream scenario right here, like his mind, like his

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Speaker 4: He's like, careful, careful, I'm bringing that up north. But

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Speaker 2: I just you know, and again this is just me speculating.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you can have a press conference

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Speaker 2: that's already there. I just think it's a scenario that

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Speaker 6: By the way, if you think what you had this

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Speaker 1: How cool will that be?

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Speaker 6: And you have show Hey with all the Japanese media,

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a disaster. If you think it's bad

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, we'll see. I mean, and you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I feel for a lot of the people in

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Speaker 2: these decisions are way above their head, and people are

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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of people are trying to

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Speaker 2: deal with things that are way out of their control.

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Speaker 2: And you know, this all came together in less than

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Speaker 2: a year. That's not a lot of time to put

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Speaker 2: something like this together. So you know, you're putting a

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Speaker 2: that's why the results.

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Speaker 1: Might not be what you want initially.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, we're all on the same page. We know

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Speaker 4: who the main person is at fault. But yes, on

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Speaker 4: on the burm or on the grass out there, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna get spray paint. They're gonna do a circle and

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Speaker 4: then they'll do your initials C, B, and that'll be

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Speaker 4: your spot for A's Dodgers. I can already see.

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Speaker 3: Just take a photo for us. It'll go well, we'll.

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Speaker 1: See the Dodgers. The Dodgers don't come.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they don't play road games against the A's until

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Speaker 2: next year, so we'll see if you get to that point,

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Speaker 2: but we have you know, the Giants will be here

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Speaker 2: on fourth of July weekend. That'll be a huge series.

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Speaker 2: The Yankees are coming at some point. I forget exactly when,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, there there are some big, some big media

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Speaker 2: draws this year, and we'll have to see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: But luckily, I think for the A's. Yeah, but luckily

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Speaker 2: for the A's, the Dodgers aren't coming this year, so

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: They got a break, they get one year to prep

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Speaker 4: for it. Chris, you were awesome. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for joining us. Give Chris a follow at Chris B

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Speaker 4: I D E R M A and appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys,