Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2: What's up, everybody is Bucky Brooks and I am joined
Speaker 2: with Marcus Grant from the Fantasy Football Podcast and he's
Speaker 2: in place of DJ. We are going to do a
Speaker 2: different type of Move the Sticks today because instead of
Speaker 2: dealing with reality, we're going to deal with a little
Speaker 2: fantasy and Marcus is gonna help us build the ultimate
Speaker 2: fantasy team.
Speaker 3: Marcus, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Feeling good?
Speaker 1: Man? You know, we got the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before you know, people start putting on pads and hitting
Speaker 1: a little bit. So just trying to enjoy what little
Speaker 1: bit of off season we all got left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of off season.
Speaker 2: And I know you, as a devoted Trojan, you're probably
Speaker 2: celebrating rushing to get your Briannie James ordered in Jersey
Speaker 2: so you can make sure you go to the Lakers
Speaker 2: first game and full effect and represent another great Trojan.
Speaker 2: But speaking of Trojans, I mean, look, man, when you
Speaker 2: think about the USC and the Trojan position, we always
Speaker 2: think about quarterbacks. And so when we start fantasy, we
Speaker 2: got a story to quarterbacks, like who are you vibing
Speaker 2: on this?
Speaker 3: Year at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Well, I think right now, Look, the elites are still
Speaker 1: the elites, right, the guys of the Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. Those are the guys still at
Speaker 1: the top. The problem with those guys is you got
Speaker 1: to go early. You've got to spend maybe a draft
Speaker 1: pick in the second or third round. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: get one of those guys. That isn't tend to be
Speaker 1: how I move. I don't mind these second tier guys, right,
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud. You can get a couple of rounds later.
Speaker 1: If you want to wait even later than that, there
Speaker 1: are some guys out there, Jordan Love who you can
Speaker 1: probably draft somewhere around the ninth or tenth round. That's
Speaker 1: a really good option for you. Jaden Daniels, Rock Purty.
Speaker 1: Even Joe Burrow has slipped a little bit, I think,
Speaker 1: just because of the injury concerns the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has kind of fallen where he's now in
Speaker 1: the eighth or ninth round.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 1: So I still tend to be believe that if you
Speaker 1: want to wait till the middle part of your you
Speaker 1: can find yourself a quality quarterback that yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna give you like video game
Speaker 1: numbers every week like Josh Allen would, but they will
Speaker 1: give you good enough numbers on a week to week
Speaker 1: basis that your team should compete and you have a
Speaker 1: chance to win.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when I hear that, everyone knows the usual suspects,
Speaker 2: the guys who are normally the prolific point scorer. So
Speaker 2: we understand how Josh Allen is able to get down
Speaker 2: because he's a dual threat. We think about Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: two time MVP, being able to put it together.
Speaker 3: But man, everyone are They're all on these young.
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks, right, And so I'm just curious because right out
Speaker 2: the gate, I got to talk.
Speaker 3: To you about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever heard a more hyped
Speaker 2: quarterback than Richardson, who is only player he was in
Speaker 2: a couple of those games that he played in. But look, man,
Speaker 2: outsiders are all on him and what he's going to
Speaker 2: do for the innflis goals not only in look real football,
Speaker 2: but in fantasy.
Speaker 3: He appears to have a lot of buzz around.
Speaker 1: His absolutely, because the thing we love in fantasy are
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can run with the football because it's it's
Speaker 1: sort of a a cheat code, right, because you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some decent passing yards. And even look
Speaker 1: at the even for Richardson, right, who we know is
Speaker 1: not a developed passer yet, he's still very much working
Speaker 1: on that part of his game. The fact that he
Speaker 1: ran so effectively, he scored a bunch of rushing You know,
Speaker 1: before Jonathan Taylor came back, Anthony Richardson was basically the
Speaker 1: goal line back there in Indianapolis, and so everybody is
Speaker 1: sort of looking for that and hoping at the same
Speaker 1: time he gets better and more developed as a passer,
Speaker 1: which gives you those extra yards. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: go back to a couple of years ago Justin Fields
Speaker 1: and we're still not sure if he's actually a good
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, But Justin Fields has always been a very
Speaker 1: good fantasy quarterback for some of those same reasons. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson hype is strong. Throw in the fact
Speaker 1: that he came back and he said he put on
Speaker 1: some extra muscle.
Speaker 4: He looks bigger.
Speaker 1: That guy everybody really really hyped. So yeah, there have been,
Speaker 1: you know, just battles. I mean Anthony richards and his
Speaker 1: draft position keeps going up and up and up. Right now,
Speaker 1: he is probably in the fifth round somewhere and people
Speaker 1: are legitimately scheming to get Anthony richardson right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is is an amazing phenomenon to kind of
Speaker 2: see the buzz around his name. And so we talk
Speaker 2: about like a young quarterback being hyped up, Like I
Speaker 2: got to go right from Anthony Rigidson to maybe the
Speaker 2: most type quarterback prospect that we've talked about in some time,
Speaker 2: and that's your fellow USC Trojan, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: What are the.
Speaker 2: Expectations in the fantasy world for the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: So I think for Caleb Williams, people are looking at him.
Speaker 1: I think if he settles in at the end of
Speaker 1: the year somewhere around quarterback twelve or thirteen, I think
Speaker 1: that's about what expectations are for him. It's weird because
Speaker 1: for me, if you're playing, if you're playing dynasty football
Speaker 1: right where you draft the team and that is your
Speaker 1: team and you keep those players year over year. Caleb
Speaker 1: is the number one quarterback in dynasty football right now.
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about just you know, your standard
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues where you redraft the team every single year.
Speaker 4: I actually like Jaden Daniels a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I think I think with Caleb, like I'm expect having
Speaker 1: a good year, I am sort of cautious because everybody's
Speaker 1: immediately saying, well, he's gonna be the first Bears quarterback
Speaker 1: to throw for four thousand yards and he's gonna set
Speaker 1: all these Bears records, and I think that could happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it happens necessarily in year one
Speaker 1: with Caleb, right, So I hesitate to kind of put
Speaker 1: those expectations on him. But if you want, if you
Speaker 1: want a rookie that you can start in fantasy in
Speaker 1: year one, I think Jayden Daniels is probably more of that.
Speaker 1: The ceilings might maybe not as high, but I think
Speaker 1: he's more ready to produce right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because with Jade and Daniels, you're getting
Speaker 2: what you talk about everyone wants in a fantasy quarterback,
Speaker 2: and that's the rushing yards. Jayden Daniels, you know, talk
Speaker 2: about kind of like an even slimmer version of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: Potentially when he enters the league. That's really appealing.
Speaker 2: And when you hear Dan Quinn talk about him, they
Speaker 2: talk about how he's already got the playbook.
Speaker 3: Down and how he's doing it. Really interesting, a really
Speaker 3: interesting player.
Speaker 2: To discuss, another player to discuss, and he's not necessarily
Speaker 2: a dual threat, but there's a lot of buzz about
Speaker 2: the Chargers, and so everyone is wondering how Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 2: is going to impact Justin Herbert as a fantasy football quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I think people have sort of so
Speaker 1: when they first hired Harbaugh and they bring in Greg Roman,
Speaker 1: and they draft Joe Alt, and they bring in you know,
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins, everybody's like, well, it must
Speaker 1: be over for Justin Herbert. That they're going to run
Speaker 1: the ball a million times and Justin Herbert is not
Speaker 1: gonna throw it ever. But I think people have started
Speaker 1: to sort of level out a little bit. That being said,
Speaker 1: you can still get Justin Herbert way off of where
Speaker 1: he used to go. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 1: that used to be drafted in the sixth, seventh round.
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about the tenth round or so, maybe
Speaker 1: even the eleventh round for Justin Herbert. But I think
Speaker 1: people have started to realize that, Yeah, okay, maybe they
Speaker 1: run it more than they have in the past, but
Speaker 1: they're not going to abandon throwing the football because financially,
Speaker 1: this team still has a lot tied up in Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they did lose Keenan Allen, they lost Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: they drafted Lad McConkey, you know, so they still do
Speaker 1: have a desire to throw the football a little bit.
Speaker 1: It just may look a little bit different now. There
Speaker 1: is some some buzz that maybe because Greg Roman is there,
Speaker 1: they use Herbert in the running game a little bit more.
Speaker 1: They have a few more designed runs for him. I I,
Speaker 1: you know, I will wait to see him. The jury
Speaker 1: is out for me on that one.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna write put your franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: in harms way that many more times. And look, he's
Speaker 1: not It's not like when Greg Roman had Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's not like when he had you know, Alex Smith
Speaker 1: or Colin Kaepernick or anybody like that. Justin Herbert's not
Speaker 1: that dude. So that part I'm still skeptical on. But
Speaker 1: I am starting to come around to the idea that maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe, you know, Jim Harbaugh is not gonna take
Speaker 1: this back to nineteen thirty three and run the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty fifty sixty five times a game.
Speaker 2: And then I mean, like, I think it'd be a
Speaker 2: bit of a throwback. I don't think it'd be that much.
Speaker 2: I would anticipate this team looking like those old stand
Speaker 2: through teams when he had Andrew Luck and those guys,
Speaker 2: and they look, they ran it. They would throw it some,
Speaker 2: but they're still about a physical run game and kind
Speaker 2: of being able to set up some play action passes
Speaker 2: and those things. Now, I gotta wrap up the quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and if I'm gonna wrap up the quarterbacks, I can
Speaker 2: leave out the four time MVP, the guy that everyone
Speaker 2: is hoping can lead the Jets back to prominence and
Speaker 2: Rogers Fantasy value.
Speaker 3: What you think?
Speaker 1: He's the guy that right now is going at the
Speaker 1: very end of drafts, in some cases, probably not drafted
Speaker 1: at all. And I think for a lot of people
Speaker 1: it's just a fear of well one, you know, there's
Speaker 1: always the fear that maybe he goes on another spirit
Speaker 1: quest to South America or decides to drop everything and
Speaker 1: run for an office. But I think more legitimately the
Speaker 1: concern is that he's a forty year old guy coming
Speaker 1: off and achilles injury behind an offensive line that last
Speaker 1: year wasn't very good. I mean, I think it's just
Speaker 1: that is sort of what's baked into it. And because
Speaker 1: he you know, he's past the point of his career
Speaker 1: where he runs the football. He used to be a
Speaker 1: very effective runner. He's not that guy anymore. Age and
Speaker 1: certainly caught up to him there. So because of that,
Speaker 1: he has to be incredibly efficient throwing the football. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had that season a couple of years ago where
Speaker 1: you know, he just did not throw interceptions, right, He
Speaker 1: had like the one year he had forty eight touchdowns,
Speaker 1: five picks.
Speaker 4: Thirty seven touchdowns, four picks.
Speaker 1: That's sort of the level of efficiency that he has
Speaker 1: to have in order to compete with the upper echelona
Speaker 1: fantasy quarterbacks. And I mean what he did those he
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. That's asking a lot of even you know,
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer of the level of Aaron Rodgers especially,
Speaker 1: you know, had forty so go to be forty one
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, It's funny because they look the.
Speaker 2: Jets playoff hopes right or died with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 2: his ability to stay healthy and his ability continue to
Speaker 2: play at a high level like he's played at for
Speaker 2: the majority of his career.
Speaker 3: But it's just interesting to.
Speaker 2: Track it and wonder where people really lean on him
Speaker 2: when it comes to finally picking him in fantasy because
Speaker 2: of the injury and those things. Any other quarterback that
Speaker 2: were missing, anybody didn't miss before we turn the page
Speaker 2: and go to another position.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, no, no big names here. I mean
Speaker 4: I'm interested.
Speaker 1: You know, brock perty is another guy who's kind of
Speaker 1: floating around in the late rounds, and I think it's
Speaker 1: sort of interesting, you know, Other than that, Like I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I'm kind of getting excited about Will Levis
Speaker 1: as like a second quarterback now as you're in every
Speaker 1: week starter. But I'm just kind of curious because they've
Speaker 1: remade that entire offense. Right, Derrick Henry is gone, they
Speaker 1: bring in Calvin Ridley. They seem to be building this
Speaker 1: thing around Will Levis. He's fun to watch because he's
Speaker 1: gonna stand back there and throw yolo balls. It might
Speaker 1: not always be effective, but it'll be entertaining. I know
Speaker 1: that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly will be entertaining. He is some one.
Speaker 2: They they've looked, they tried to upgrade the cast around them,
Speaker 2: Kevin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins. They have some other pieces in
Speaker 2: place in terms of setting up the run game.
Speaker 3: You got Tony poll joining.
Speaker 2: We'll see, because there's been a lot of buzz particularly
Speaker 2: there with Brian Callahan going that maybe just maybe he
Speaker 2: can kind of find his way to be at upper
Speaker 2: echelon quarterback time will till.
Speaker 3: Well, what will happen? We're gonna take a little break.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm back and on the other side, we'll talk
Speaker 2: about running backs because you know, running.
Speaker 3: Backs are key to being able to be successful in fantasy.
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, so we're back. You know this is
Speaker 2: a position that is nearing git to my heart. I
Speaker 2: love running backs and look, even though they're diminished and
Speaker 2: devalued in fantasy, you still got to have one or
Speaker 2: two to be able to get it done. So when
Speaker 2: we talk about the running back position, what's your overall
Speaker 2: strategy when it comes to taking a running back?
Speaker 3: What are you looking for? What is the perfect running
Speaker 3: back in fantasy?
Speaker 1: So for me, I really want to get one of
Speaker 1: the top guys early if I can, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: there are It's so different now, right, I would say
Speaker 1: five ten years ago, you look the first round of
Speaker 1: fantasy drafts and it was majority running backs and maybe
Speaker 1: you get a wide receiver or two sprinkled in there.
Speaker 1: Now it's the complete opposite where it's mostly wide receivers
Speaker 1: and you got a handful of running backs. Still, four guys,
Speaker 1: at least three guys maybe four that go in the
Speaker 1: first round, Christian McCaffrey, no doubt, Jehan Robinson, Breeze Hall.
Speaker 1: Those are your dead licke first round running backs. And
Speaker 1: you can make a case for Jimior Gibbs at the
Speaker 1: back end of the first round. So I want to
Speaker 1: try to get one of those top guys in the
Speaker 1: first round.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe I can.
Speaker 1: I can make a case and stretch it out for
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor early in the second round something like that.
Speaker 4: After that, I tend to wait.
Speaker 1: I think you can get to the middle rounds and
Speaker 1: there's some some guys who maybe aren't super exciting name wise,
Speaker 1: but give you solid production. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: like James Cook in Buffalo, especially because we live in
Speaker 1: a PPR world and they're gonna throw him the football.
Speaker 1: I still like David Montgomery. You know, he's he's not sexy,
Speaker 1: but he's solid and he continues to produce, especially when
Speaker 1: he's healthy. I think, you know, Jalen Warren in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I think has some really nice upside. I think James Connor.
Speaker 1: I know he's got an injury history, but when James
Speaker 1: Connor is healthy and on the field, he's really really productive.
Speaker 1: So I can wait and I can build up in
Speaker 1: the early rounds, you know, load up on wide receiver,
Speaker 1: maybe get a top tight end if I want to,
Speaker 1: and still come back in round you know, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 1: and find myself a quality running back.
Speaker 4: And that's that tends to be how I operate.
Speaker 2: You know, I am curious because when I when I
Speaker 2: look at some of the finer offenses in the league.
Speaker 2: We always talked about the just in a wide hot perimeter,
Speaker 2: but a chan from Miami Dolphins, you know, like when
Speaker 2: he was around and make him plays. You talked about
Speaker 2: he was averaging ninety scrimmag yards per game. And he
Speaker 2: is a fun like a highlight a minute player. How
Speaker 2: do we quantify what he is able to bring to
Speaker 2: the fantasy world.
Speaker 1: So he is super exciting and people super love him.
Speaker 1: And the reason I haven't drafted him is because you
Speaker 1: got to go really early to get him. I mean
Speaker 1: he's coming off the board late second round, early third round, which.
Speaker 4: For me, I love the fact that he's so explosive.
Speaker 1: He averaged nearly eight yards per carry last year, which
Speaker 1: is an insane I think seven point eight yards per carry,
Speaker 1: which is an insane number.
Speaker 4: What worries me though.
Speaker 1: Is one he did have a little bit of an
Speaker 1: injury situation last year. But also the Dolphins are still
Speaker 1: sort of admitted to Raheem Moster. They brought him back
Speaker 1: on an extension, and he's another guy who's explosive, had
Speaker 1: eighteen rushing touchdowns last year, and I can get Raheem
Speaker 1: most or many many rounds later and I think get
Speaker 1: similar productions. So unless they're going to somehow change everything
Speaker 1: up and give Devon ah Chan the majority of the workload,
Speaker 1: he's still going to be splitting touches and that means
Speaker 1: he needs to average almost eight yards per carry or
Speaker 1: score a bunch of touchdowns, and that's a really really
Speaker 1: hard thing to bank on. So I love the player,
Speaker 1: I love the talent, I just don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: make that kind of gamble draft wise on a situation
Speaker 1: where he might end up being in a two man
Speaker 1: committee now, not even to say anything about the fact
Speaker 1: that they drafted Jalen Wright out of Tennessee, who could
Speaker 1: step in there and maybe not get enough carries to
Speaker 1: be like an everyday fantasy option, but he could get
Speaker 1: enough carries to make you.
Speaker 4: Frustrated about the guy you did draft.
Speaker 1: And so that is sort of my concern with a
Speaker 1: chan where he's going right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, the frustration leads me to talk about the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: and that will make me about you're Elliott. I don't
Speaker 2: know what to make of Ezekiel Elliott's fantasy value because
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like a year ago he was cut
Speaker 2: and let go.
Speaker 3: They bring him back. You think they were bringing back
Speaker 3: as part of.
Speaker 2: Rotation, But it seems that in Dallas they're gonna turn
Speaker 2: back to clock to twenty sixteen and Ezekiel Ellis's gonna
Speaker 2: be the feature back because there aren't any notable names
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 3: Can Zeke Elliott be a surprise fantasy contributor?
Speaker 1: If he is a surprise, it'll surprise me and you
Speaker 1: both because I'm I'm sort of with you and that, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that backfield where look,
Speaker 1: chances are, yes, Zeke is going to be the lead
Speaker 1: in that backfield, but Rico Dowdell is still there, going
Speaker 1: to get some opportunities. They have Royce Freeman there, Deuce
Speaker 1: Vaughan may show up every now and then and get
Speaker 1: some opportunities there. But also I think a thing to
Speaker 1: consider is that this offensive line is not the same
Speaker 1: offensive line that they had the last time Zeke was there,
Speaker 1: when they those dudes up front that were opening holes
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of road graders there. This is
Speaker 1: a different offensive line there in Dallas, and so that's
Speaker 1: sort of a concern. Throwing the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: Zekea's not the explosive back he once was.
Speaker 4: This is an offense that's certainly.
Speaker 1: More geared toward Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and throwing
Speaker 1: the football. So I mean, I think because of that,
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing, you know, zek is kind of
Speaker 1: the first cowboy running back that gets drafted, but that's
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at round ten or eleven something
Speaker 1: like that. I think generally everybody's sort of like, we
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with this backfield, and so
Speaker 1: because of that, people are just sort of like, we're
Speaker 1: all just going to.
Speaker 4: Kind of back away from it right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's a hard backfield to sort out. It's hard
Speaker 2: to figure out what to do with them. And as
Speaker 2: much as I love Zeke Elliott for most of his career,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I know he had a little
Speaker 2: flash at the end of the season with the Patriots,
Speaker 2: but to go back to Dallas in to reprise that
Speaker 2: number one role that he lived in for so long.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of crazy because two years ago
Speaker 2: they were trying to get rid of him and we
Speaker 2: were saying Antoni Pobas needs all the carries.
Speaker 3: Now we want to say he's ready to go back
Speaker 3: to be the one.
Speaker 2: It is not the typical situation as you look for
Speaker 2: in running back. Who who are we sleeping on? Who's
Speaker 2: the running back sleeper? That's your guy that you have
Speaker 2: in the pocket.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jonathan Brooks in Carolina, and I like,
Speaker 1: I like what Carolina has done. I don't want to
Speaker 1: overhype it too much, but I think Jonathan Brooks is
Speaker 1: gonna step in there and win fully healthy and ready
Speaker 1: to go. And right now the talk is that they
Speaker 1: expect him to be ready, if not for camp, certainly
Speaker 1: you know, by the early part of the season. I
Speaker 1: think when he's ready, he's the number one running back there.
Speaker 1: They went in on Miles Sanders last year, and I
Speaker 1: think they realized midway through the season that wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: work out. They gave that job to Chewba Hubbard. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Brooks is better than Chuwba Hubbard. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: step in and be, you know, a the number one
Speaker 1: running back early on, and if not, certainly by the
Speaker 1: midpoint of the season, he's going to be that number
Speaker 1: one running back in in Carolina by the end of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 4: And so look, here's another guy that that I really like.
Speaker 1: And this is it's an old, familiar name, but we're
Speaker 1: all really excited about Derrick Henry in Baltimore this year.
Speaker 1: It's it's very rare when everybody in fantasy wishes for
Speaker 1: a thing to happen and that thing happens. Like we
Speaker 1: were all saying, we, you know, Derek Henry should go
Speaker 1: join the Ravens he'd be perfect for the Ravens, and
Speaker 1: usually when we all want that, it never happens. This
Speaker 1: time it happens, So we're super excited about you know
Speaker 1: what he can be in that offense, in that backfield
Speaker 1: with with with the Lamar Jackson, so you know, throwing
Speaker 1: the fact that when they get down closed to your
Speaker 1: thing in in Philly, we know they got the tush push.
Speaker 1: In Buffalo, it's gonna be Josh Allen. The Ravens don't
Speaker 1: use Lamar Jackson near the goal line in a similar fashion,
Speaker 1: so when they get close, there's gonna turn around and
Speaker 1: hand it to l tractor Sito. So I know it's
Speaker 1: not assary a sleeper thing, but it's definitely a running
Speaker 1: back spot that we are all.
Speaker 4: Everybody's super fired up about it.
Speaker 1: I will also caution you that when everybody in fantasy
Speaker 1: is fired up about something, usually it somehow goes sideways.
Speaker 1: So I'm crossing my fingers that this is not gonna
Speaker 1: be the case this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's funny in terms of being fired up
Speaker 2: about fantasy, but the one position that gets everyone fired up.
Speaker 2: We talk about quarterbacks, and we love running backs, but
Speaker 2: there's nothing more exciting than to talk about your favorite
Speaker 2: fantasy wide receiver point bananas when you need it down
Speaker 2: the stretch, Let's talk about who are your top wide receivers.
Speaker 2: Who are the guys that you're really bank going to
Speaker 2: have big performances this year.
Speaker 1: Well, again, this is another one where I think it's
Speaker 1: great to go get the elites and like the guys
Speaker 1: at the time. I think that the top three, you
Speaker 1: can just pull the names out of a hat in
Speaker 1: any order and nobody's gonna argue with you. So it's
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, it's Tyreek Hill, it's Jamar Chase. How you
Speaker 1: rank them really is a matter of personal preference, and
Speaker 1: nobody's really gonna fight with you there. But even that,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm on Ross Saint Brown has proven
Speaker 1: he is a top level wide receiver.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I feel still think Justin Jefferson in terms of talent,
Speaker 1: is a high level guy. I just worry about the
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, you know as much as I you know,
Speaker 1: I want, in my heart of hearts and my Trojan
Speaker 1: heart for.
Speaker 4: Sam Donald to be great.
Speaker 1: You know, at this point, we sort of seen this movie,
Speaker 1: We kind of know how it is, and so I
Speaker 1: think that that's the reason Jefferson's probably going is the
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth wide receiver as opposed to being the
Speaker 1: first wide receiver off the board. But because the position
Speaker 1: is so deep, you can go two three rounds and
Speaker 1: find yourself a quality receiver. The other problem, though, is
Speaker 1: that everybody feels that way, so receivers are.
Speaker 4: Flying off the board.
Speaker 1: So if you don't go out and get yourself one
Speaker 1: maybe two in the first four rounds, you're gonna look
Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden, it's going to be really,
Speaker 1: really thin because everybody is just grabbing them wherever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so difficult, And look, you don't want to
Speaker 2: operate like the Green Bay Packers where you're saying, hey man,
Speaker 2: we just have a random yeah, I become the number
Speaker 2: one receiver for the day. You want to have someone
Speaker 2: that is established. But how hard is it to pick
Speaker 2: like in these examples. So the Philadelphia Eagles, the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: even to a lesser degree, the Minnesota Vikings, they have
Speaker 2: number one receivers, but that second guy is one bet.
Speaker 2: When you're trying to make these decisions where you're saying
Speaker 2: everyone is zick zach to get one, is there a
Speaker 2: reasonable like a conversation that you could have that A
Speaker 2: AJ Brown DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 3: Maybe I go with DeVonta Smith because it's more likely
Speaker 3: that I can get him in the pecking order.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason I probably have drafted in some
Speaker 1: of like the early mock drafts and stuff I've done,
Speaker 1: I've probably drafted Devonte Smith more than AJ Brown just
Speaker 1: because I can wait a little bit later and get him.
Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about A. J. Brown and DeVante
Speaker 4: Smith being that way.
Speaker 1: I think in some respects you can have a similar
Speaker 1: argument with Poka Nakula and Cooper Cup with the Rams,
Speaker 1: where you know, Pookah's that guy that's going in the
Speaker 1: late first round. You can get Cooper Cup probably in
Speaker 1: the third round right now. So you do have those yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing when you have a team
Speaker 1: with like two wide receivers that's kind of easy to
Speaker 1: figure out.
Speaker 4: The one thing that is hard.
Speaker 1: And we're all going in circles trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what to do with the Houston Tech wide receivers because
Speaker 1: they already had Nico Collins in Tank Dell and those
Speaker 1: guys were awesome last year. Then they go out and
Speaker 1: they add Stephan Diggs, who, Okay, maybe he's not the
Speaker 1: same guy he was a couple of years ago, but
Speaker 1: he's still a really talented player. He's going to get
Speaker 1: a whole lot of targets from CJ. Stroud, and so
Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out, you know, which one
Speaker 1: is the best option. It's gonna be hard to figure
Speaker 1: that out because you know there will be weeks that
Speaker 1: are gonna be Collins weeks. They're gonna be Tanked Dell
Speaker 1: weeks are gonna be Stephan Diggs weeks, and we may
Speaker 1: not be able to predict which one is going to
Speaker 1: be which, but all three potentially they're gonna be really
Speaker 1: really good all year. But I think on a week
Speaker 1: to week basis, having a Texans wide receiver is going
Speaker 1: to be a really big headache for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, It's funny in my time in like playing fancy football,
Speaker 2: like I just love having clear lines, like clear lines
Speaker 2: where you know who's the number one, who's the number two,
Speaker 2: who's the number three.
Speaker 3: It's very similar.
Speaker 2: I think the situation in LA when it comes to
Speaker 2: the Rams. For as much as we love Pukinnakua and
Speaker 2: they all gets muddied with Cooper Cup coming back, who
Speaker 2: does Matthew Stafford see as the number one? And if
Speaker 2: you had to decide between the two pass catches, which
Speaker 2: go Cooper Cup, which go the cool.
Speaker 1: So early on, I was going Cooper Cup just because
Speaker 1: he was going a couple of rounds later, but I'm
Speaker 1: starting to pivot to Pooka, uh really for no rhyme or.
Speaker 4: Reason, just because I think he's younger.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I know he's younger than
Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup is, and I think that maybe sort
Speaker 1: of factors into it. But I do think in the end,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have similar production. You know, at
Speaker 1: some point you look at Cooper Cup and you know
Speaker 1: he's getting a little bit older. He's over thirty, He's
Speaker 1: had some injuries the last couple of years, so maybe
Speaker 1: you factor that in a little bit. But again, I
Speaker 1: think it's a situation where you know, those are the
Speaker 1: two guys where the ball is going to be funneled mostly,
Speaker 1: So I think either way, you're gonna be fine with
Speaker 1: either one of those two guys.
Speaker 2: All right, So, Marcus, So when we think about like
Speaker 2: a little young wide receiver, we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 2: rookies in the next episode. But if there was a
Speaker 2: young wide receiver that you would take a dart on,
Speaker 2: maybe just like an unheralded name, but is in a
Speaker 2: really good situation where you think he can probably outplay
Speaker 2: his draft status, Give me a name.
Speaker 1: We everybody's getting really excited about Jamison Williams because, for one,
Speaker 1: this is the first normal offseason he's had in a while, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, when he when he got drafted, he was injured,
Speaker 1: he pretty much missed pretty much all of that that
Speaker 1: first season. He's had suspensions to deal with. But everything
Speaker 1: coming out of Detroit this offseason says that he is
Speaker 1: really ready to take that next step, that he's working hard.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is thrown out a lot of praise about him,
Speaker 1: which you know, Dan Campbell's not one to just necessily
Speaker 1: throw around a ton of praise. So the fact that
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of great things to say about
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams has been really exciting.
Speaker 4: That offense has looked great the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the reason we love Aman Ross Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: It's the reason we all loved Sam Laporta last year.
Speaker 1: So if Jamison Williams really is starting to become the
Speaker 1: player we thought he he could be coming out of college.
Speaker 1: He definitely could outperform his ADP. I mean, he's getting
Speaker 1: drafted right now in the double digit rounds and look
Speaker 1: if he if he is that guy, he could definitely
Speaker 1: outperform that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's funny because Amarra Saint Brown is the
Speaker 2: clear number one, but there's so many intriguing options that
Speaker 2: they have on that offense. You talked about Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 2: being someone that everyone should have an interest in h
Speaker 2: when it comes to looking at what he can do.
Speaker 2: From fran perspective, you have Jerry Golf who's got the
Speaker 2: big money, who's throwing the ball all over the yard.
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams certainly can be a guy that is a
Speaker 2: productive playmaker. Ain't that knowying that Sam Laporta is the
Speaker 2: second option on that squad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean so that is the concern though,
Speaker 1: that maybe he's the third option at best. But again
Speaker 1: it's sort of a risk reward thing. Like where you're
Speaker 1: getting him, you're not risking much in terms of draft capital,
Speaker 1: with the reward being that you know, if he becomes
Speaker 1: a deep threat, or a big play guy in offense.
Speaker 1: He could be one of those players where it doesn't
Speaker 1: take a whole lot of catches for him to put
Speaker 1: up a big fantasy number. If he can get you
Speaker 1: two or three catches and maybe get you, you know,
Speaker 1: eighty ninety yards and find his way into the end zone,
Speaker 1: ends up being a really good day.
Speaker 3: It does end up being a really, really good day.
Speaker 2: And so we're gonna wrap up part one of the
Speaker 2: podcasts now put on part We're gonna talk about tight ends,
Speaker 2: we can talk about rookies to watch, and we're also
Speaker 2: gonna kind of maybe build the ultimate fantasy team. So
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